You can fix her bullshit just by increasing the charge rate of her ultimate by 30%
Just kill her first, retard.
>>344545938
Just have a RIP-tyre or D.va destruct ready for when you hear it
Its not really over-powered its just broken slightly.
It charges insanely quickly, its impossible to interrupt so it becomes completely about the skill of the Mercy in timing it rather than the enemy team having a say in things like pretty much ever other Ult.
It goes through fucking walls and ceilings.
The largest problem with Mercy and really more her Ult is how fucking off-putting and disheartening it can be. Its sheer frustration to out maneuver and kill most of a team and have all that work be undone because the Mercy was right at the back behind a fucking box crouching.
She's frail as hell and can be caught defenseless all the time in teamfights by anyone with a bit of mobility, it's your own fault if you can't prioritize targets right.
kill her first
you should always kill the support first anyways
they are weak and die quickly, and it will make the next teamfight way easier
a good team will have some people whose goal is to go behind the enemy lines and hunt supports and snipers (winston/tracer). it really doesn't take much at all to properly harass them
a better team will also protect their supports, but most of the time they are flat out ignored.
>>344545938
Symmetry teleporter is better than mercy res.
I can't, you're right.
Mercy main here
Go fuck yourself OP.
>>344546194
This is the stupidest, laziest solution and is the opinion of somebody who never plays Mercy. If you nerf her ult charge at all she will be fucking useless. She needs buffs in other areas if her ult is ever to be nerfed.
Just gonna drop this here...
>>344546546
>it's sheer frustration to kill a team
>only to have mercy res everyone
Am I the only person seeing what is ridiculously wrong with this bad overwatch player's statement
No spawnprotection.
That way it gets a whole bunch fairer whilst also promoting communication.
i wish other supports besides lucio were viable. symmetra is literally defense and zenyatta is objectively the worst hero in the game.
>>344548089
When you take it out of context yes it sounds wrong but it was fine in context stop being a cunt
>>344545938
it is and games that arent filled with shitters all admit it
you kill mercy (who usually has a lucio around her) you win the fight
you dont and you lose the fight
both teams have both of this heroes
games are decided around mercy
>>344545938
Make it interruptable, and increase the cast time by .5 seconds or so.
It's not OP. All the healer ults can counter an enemy ult. Several ults can wipe a team like reaper, zarya, pharah, junkrat, mei, etc. The healer ults can counter that pretty much equally except that lucio's is a bit weak.
>>344548243
No, it wasnt. Kill the fucking healer you shitter.
>reaper mains buttmad that another hero can invalidate their Q
It's only OP because there is no true counter
There's a few ways to fix it. Maybe give it like a casting time of a second so that if you kill her before it goes off, no rez. Or maybe they're rezzed but with less health than if she finished casting
If ults can wipe entire teams without any effort then Mercy's res is not OP.
Ults shouldn't exist anyway since they're just a free triple kill assuming you aren't retarded.
>>344545938
just kill faster shitscrub
>>344548250
just like tf2
mercy has no kill options, a tracer can hunt her down easily. Its her job
>>344545938
both sides can use it so it's perfectly fair
>>344546710
>>344547376
This. Kill her, then send somebody to harass spawn.This tactic has let me practice against spawncampers and I can now effectively pea shoot bad/average Genjis and terrible Tracers. My dream is to successfully 1v1 an average Tracer!
>>344545938
I had a game once where someone on our team wouldn't stop bitching that we need a Mercy because the other Mercy ulted 4 times so we need a Mercy so we can ult also and res and also we need a Mercy and holy shit this kid would not shut up.
I told him, "Shoot the healers first" and he started doing it, and funny story we didn't hear her res anyone after that.
>>344545938
Im so fucking tired of this retarded "if its annoying its overpowered" cancer meme, you people are so fucking stupid
>Make it so ressurecting people takes a couple seconds instead of them spawning instantly with spawn protection
>Make it so killing the Mercy would stop it
There, fixed it
>>344545938
you're supposed to have a mercy in your own team too retard, the one killing the enemy mercy first won.
stop crying if your team composition is this stupid reaper/genji/hanzo mains.
>>344545938
I don't understand why they use a Valkyrie. Valkyries send you to Valhalla they don't heal you or resurrect you. They wait for your dead and then take you to paradise. The grim reaper or the angel of death are the same as Valkyries.
tl;dr: Blizzard is retarded.
>>344547537
>play sym alot
>figure out clever effective placements for teleport
>no one uses it
>>344550208Mercy is basically canon an ancient evil at this point
>>344550208Everyone is already dead
>>344550208
autism
>>344550239
>play poo in loo a lot
>figure out stupid placements like teleport sending people 25 billions kilometers away, or right in front of a cliff
>everyone uses it and then report me
>>344550328
>implying Death in any of their interpretations is evil
get your shit together and read more, anon
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight!
>>344550239
>Two tele uses left
>Walk back the long way so other more useful classes can use it
>"wtf sym use the teleporter"
>>344550328
Sauce or bullshit.
>>344545938
the game is a piece of shit
>>344550208
they feast and fight in Valhalla.
>>344550208
Valhalla is where warriors endlessly fight and don't stay dead, retard
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight
>>344548028
>This is the stupidest, laziest solution and is the opinion of somebody who never plays Mercy.
You are the fucking retard man, her entire problem lies in the fact that she can spam her Ultimate almost all the time. Increasing the time she gains the Ultimate is the only way to fix her broken ass. That way you need to consider when to pop it instead of pressing Q when someone farted at your teammate.
Also maybe make Mercys damage buff regenerate Reinhardts Shield.
>>344551268
they take the dead (their souls) to Valhalla. They are not resurrected asshole
>>344551608
>Give the most synergistic hero more synergy with another powerful hero
You're just embarrassing yourself.
>>344551608
or maybe you could focus on mercy fucking ass instead of shooting like a braindead retard all day long roadhog godzilla sized belly, giving mercy her ult in 3.5 seconds.
It's the same shit in tf2, kill the fucking medic first you fucking stupid fuck and stop fucking complaining. Even if you die will doing so it's worth a try.
>>344552016
Start actually playing competitive in a premade before talking out of your ass. Reinhardts shield drops faster than any potato on any map that isn't Payload.
>>344552147
Yes because that's so easy, explains why Mercy is always a 100% pick along with Lucio in competitive.
Stop playing the game in Solo-Queue you shitter. Trying to kill Mercy is pretty hard with Lucio hanging around and vice versa.
>>344552271
He is still one of the most used heroes in competitive, same as mercy. I'm not saying they're op but they obviously are more viable in more situations than other heroes, and they really don't need a buff. All defensive heroes are shut down quicker in higher tier play, it's still a stupid idea.
>>344552271
what do you need more, a shield with 50 billions pv?
If you're not using your shield like a retard he last long enough to be a pain in the ass before dropping.
But hey, you're probably walking alone in soloQ with a dumb mercy healing your ass, what am I trying to teach you here ...
>>344552620
Try keeping your shield up with two Zaryas, Torb and Phara. They burn through half of it in3-5 seconds.
>>344552559
>Yes because that's so easy, explains why Mercy is always a 100% pick along with Lucio in competitive.
it's the point you fucking mouthbreathing mongoloid, healer are hard to kill, that's why you need someone playing agro to focus the enemy support.
>>344552829
>there were only 4 dps shooting at me! why did i die!?
>>344552829
and it's 3-5 second of your team not being destroyed by the enemy team, use it or stfu ;^)
>>344545938
I think Lucio's ult is more useful. Gives a team the staying powere without interruption. Mercy's problem is that her ult charges too fast. Meanwhile Zenyatta has the shittiest support ult and it takes forever to charge.
The way I see it there are 3 ways to fix her ult, only one needs to be applied however:
>give it a "cast time", like a full 1 second where if the enemy is quick enough they can cancel it completely
>resurrected allies come back with 33% health instead of 100%
>the resurrect can now hit a maximum of 3 people
>>344552872
No fucking shit, then stop making it sound so easy to just get behind the fucking lines and wipe the supports off when half the shit maps are chokepoints like Anubis.
>Wipe Mercy first and then her team at the last point of Anubis
>Runs to the wall in her spawn presses Q and revives her entire team without being able to really stop it.
G fucking G
>>344545938
If your team is garbage then lucio is a better pick
>>344552921
>>344552962
That's every team you little shit, according to you I should just stop playing Reinhardt because the shield gets broken by literally every competent team in a short matter of time turning you into Roadhog 2.0 without one-shots. Might as well play Roadhog at that point.
>>344551608
The entire point of her ultimate is that you CAN spam it, you have the option of reviving solo players often or saving it for a big teamfight. Being that the ultimate requires at least one player to be dead to even use it's obviously a counter, with it being designed like this the whole point is that she has it available as often as possible and the tough part is choosing when and staying alive to use it.
>Let's make it charge slower
Really stupid idea, all you are doing is making the entire situation worse for everyone. With an ult that charges slower Mercy can now no longer use her ultimate as much, this makes her ult far more precious, requires her to hide more, and makes her even MORE of a target for the enemy.
The real issue is that there are only two real supports in the game and as a whole the game is designed around every team having at least one.
>>344553363
>>resurrected allies come back with 33% health instead of 100%
>freeze in a gold light aura in front of the ennemy for like 2 seconds while being invincible
>then everyone shot you down cause you only have 33% of your life
pretty retarded t b h desu senpai
>>344545938
>question is in the title
>Prove me wrong
Sure, you made this thread to have 529 posts and 198 images omitted, click reply to view.
>>344553393
>>344552872
Mercy is incredibly easy to kill and her ult has a fairly small radius.
>Anubis second point
If she walks to the wall in the spawn she can only revive people who died either on the left or right hall, the cubby hole behind the point, and just a few feet onto the point itself. The small range does not cover most of the point or the large opening in the right hall or the open area outside the spawn to the left.
If you don't play mercy or know how her abilities work you should really stop posting like you do.
>>344548075
>taking a line from the Splatoon Miiverse
What a lazy hack
>>344553614
They need to rework how the ultimate in itself work. The thing I hate most is shit like >>344553393 when Mercy doesn't even need to be in line of sight to revive everyone.
The entire match turns into hide and seek in hope you find Mercy before your team is done finishing of the enemy team, this here >>344553490 happens far to often.
>>344553393
didn't said it was easy you dipshit, she's hard to kill because she's the one everyone will try to kill in the enemy team, it's not rocket science.
>Wipe Mercy first and then her team at the last point of Anubis
>Runs to the wall in her spawn presses Q and revives her entire team without being able to really stop it.
G fucking G
and what, don't you have a mercy in your own team who can do the exact same shit?
Play double support or gtfo.
>>344553602
Literally no one said that. Rein is still one of the most played tanks and his shield is fine. Stop being such a whiny bitch.
>>344553804
While you are partly right most people still die close enough for you being able to revive all of them unless they die on the outer edge of the point and rarely anyone dies there, not even the attacking time.
>>344545938
Rez shouldn't work unless her animation finishes. Mercy's ult in its current form is the most braindead ult in the game.
Charge rate is fine and it makes Mercy valuable, but it shouldn't be that simple to full heal dead allies.
>>344553879
So it's ok for reaper to hide and jump out to ult 5 people but it's not ok for mercy to hide and jump out to revive 5 people?
Mercy and her ult are fine as they are and shes really the only reason the defensive team has a chance on most maps. The real problem is that there are only two supports in the game right now (zen was nerfed and is total trash) and you need at least one in order to win. If anything Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
>>344553934
>Literally no one said that
The implication is still there, name me a single instance when there isn't 4 DPS.
And the reason why Reinhardt is played so often in Comp is only due the fact that Tracer gets used so often.
It's basically Rein, 2x Zarya, Mercy Lucio.
>play support
>enemy flankers constantly on your ass
>people 2 steps in front of you fail to notice or care, nobody turns around to help you
>team-mates spread out as far as possible, Winston from behind the enemy team calls for heals
>play against support
>team completely ignores them
>get focused hard the moment you yourself put pressure on them
>team-mates outright ignore the healer right next to the tank they're attacking (bonus points of they're attacking a shielded Zarya instead)
I'm very close to just uninstalling the game. Solo queue is a horrible, horrible mess and Blizzard's matchmaking does not function in the slightest.
I'm always getting matched with at least 2-3 people who don't give a single shit about composition or picking a hero that makes sense. Never switch, never focus healers, never group up.
Playing with friends is not an option since they are nearly all casuals who don't care about winning and "main" heroes like Widowmaker and Genji.
>>344551608
>Hurrdurr Mercy's ult is OP
Tf senpai, in most games I kill at least 3 opponents with one rip-tire multiple times. And although I never play fuckin Hanzo proper use of his ultimate also reks at least half the time fairly often. DPS has strong offensive ults, support has strong defensive ults. Wtf are you whining about?
>>344554180
You can interrupt Reapers ultimate with McCree, push him away, hook him, one-shot him with Hanzo. Theres a lot of ways to stop Reaper while there's almost no way to stop Mercys Ultimate unless you you kill her the moment she pressed Q which is more a random chance than intentional.
>>344553671
Her ult is not suppose to be this grand savior of every fucked battle.
It's suppose to be something that can save you if you're good.
As it stands right now it just turns practically any 5-v-5 around in a heartbeat.
>>344554387
>I kill at least 3 opponents with one rip-tire multiple times
not even him but the enemy team must be absolutely shit to get hit by junkrats riptire.
>>344554529
>Mine myself up to higher place
>Drop rip-tires from above
>Good luck
t. Junkrat
>>344554420
Mercy has to get in range to use her ult and prior to that has to stay alive in general, that's hard for a 200 hp hero with zero offensive or defensive abilities when you can:
>Stun and kill her with McCree
>Push her away
>Hook her
>one-shot her with Hanzo
>Theres a lot of ways to stop Reaper while there's almost no way to stop Mercys Ultimate unless you you kill her the moment she pressed Q which is more a random chance than intentional.
This is how everyone knows you're a bad player, you are focusing on the moment she presses her Q button instead of realizing she exists on the map prior to that. Instead of keeping track of where she is and doing what you can to take her out first you completely forget about her till she flies in and revives. Then you come here and whine like a baby.
>>344554503
>it's ok to kill 5 people with reaper shitty ult just by teleporting on a cliff and then jumping into the fight and press Q
>it's not ok for mercy to revive 5 people with her ult
/v/ logic
>>344554754
again, the enemy team must be shit if they don't look up and try to shoot it down.
how much hp does it even have? 75 or 100?
>>344554387
I haven't seen people be killed by a Rip-Tire or RGWTOK in ages.
Two of the more shitty ultimates if you ask me. A couple of months ago they devastated entire teams, but people gotten wise as to what to do when they hear those ults go off.
Graviton Surge is the new team killer ulti.
>>344554817
Reaper can be frozen, stunned, or hooked during his ult to stop it.
Mercy can't.
>>344554767
>Zero offensive abilities
You are aware you can switch to a gun with Mercy right? I actually get quite a fair amount of eliminations (non-support) in between healing whilst playing Mercy.
bring back the cast time from pre launch
>>344554975
that's because people were shit and retarded and got hit by literally everything. You have to actually wait for the right time to shit out a tire that can get more than 1 kill compared to getting a quad every time it's up
>>344554817
You can play around Reaper though. Get to cover, get behind Reinhardt, get Lucio to pop an ult etc.
You can kill Mercy the nanosecond she hits that Q though and it'll still completely turn the tide of the battle.
Mercy/Lucio main here on a comp team
It's not broken, it's about parity with Lucio and Zenyattas ult. All 3 are meant to be defense-breakers, group up and charge through. Lucio and Zen's are more powerful on offense allowing you to brute force through for example the first entrance on Anubis. Res isn't as good on offense but has more utility on defense
It charges very fast but in order to charge your team has to be taking lots of damage. If your team is taking lots of damage guess what, the enemy is charging their ult's very fast too.
The only thing is the animation should finish to work, I understand that criticism. I've seen how frustrating it is for a mercy to res seemingly after dying
Also Mercy is only OP on lower skill brackets. On high end comp matches I get hunted by Pharahs and the Tracers can actually kill me before I kill them. Then I hop on some friends sub-50 comp matches or quick play and lmao, the enemy team just lets me fly in and quad-res, and I go around hunting Tracers and Reapers with the pistol
>>344554767
>you are focusing on the moment she presses her Q button
I didn't say that at all. It was only an example as when the only chance appears where you can interrupt her ult underlying that it's factually uninterruptible unless by sheer luck.
Optimally you should kill Mercy at the same time as her team, if you kill her to early she will be able to fly back into the fight and then revive like a cunt because the souls lie longer than she is dead.
>>344554990
You do realize she is a character in the game like everyone else right? She isn't some invisible invulnerable god mode hero that can't be touched until a tenth of a second before using her ult.
Mercy can be frozen, stunned, hooked, pinned, stuck, sniped, booped, shock rifle comboed, scatter shot, genji/tracer harassed, Zarya ult'd, left clicked, right clicked, meleed, and stared at.
>>344554990
mercy should be your fucking main target in the game and she can't teleport or use reaper gay cape floating ability.
She's usually killed before she actually can approach her dead teammates. And even if she succed 50% of the time she die while resurrecting her team, and that's definitely a good thing.
>>344555134
Any good Pharah will take to the sky and rocket the shit out of your rubber.
>>344554817
if the reaper could ulti through walls, instantly delete everyone in 0.1 seconds unless someone killed him first, barriers/shield didn't work then yeah they would be exact opposites.
What if you made her ultimate needing line of sight to resurrect characters?
Mercy ult is dumb because once she has it it becomes more effective for her to hide and let her team die on purpose, because if she actually helps her team she's at risk of dying before she can mash her instant 5-man 100% hp button
>>344555408
Revive requires players to already be dead, that's about as big of a downside as I can imagine.
>>344555134
This desu, I wouldn't say I'm necessarily a really great player, but I know my way with Junkrat. Also, I'm on ps4 so it might be slightly harder to get a quick shot on the tire.
Most Junkrats are insanely shit tho and as soon as their tire is ready they fire it in an open space where it has to travel through enemy LoS and fire and gets shot down.
>>344545938
>get one of the tracer/reaper/genji/hanzo/widowmaker shitters on your team to stop sucking and go after the largely defenseless healslut first
>Alternately get one of the reaper/genji/hanzo/junkrat/D.va shitters to hold their Q back until she's popped her revive
Literally just git gud.
>>344555243
>If your team is taking lots of damage guess what, the enemy is charging their ult's very fast too.
the thing is that for every point of dmg done she get more charge and damage done on your teammates is not done by 1 player while the healing is. You will get ress before enemy gets their ultimate unless her allies outright die every time
>>344555408
reaper do massive damage with his shotgun, mercy is practically defenseless and without her flying ability pretty slow, so it's a good balance.
>>344553859
>thinking an old joke like that one is orginaly from splatoon
>>344555532
please never play mercy you retard.
>>344555552
It also seems that most Junkrats don't know the tire can climb walls. Or potential victims for that matter.
>>344555574
Revive requires players to be dead, it's not something you can just use whenever you want like any other ultimate. Because of this very situational use it has to charge quickly or else you'd only ever get to use it one time in a game. What you forget is she is extremely fragile and against good teams it's very difficult to even get in and do big revives, if you slow down her charge the entire game ends up revolving around whether or not she gets that ONE revive chance right.
Think about it for a few minutes and realize just how little fun the game is now for mercy players.
>>344555713
>climb walls
Neither do most Hanzos
>>344555405
Yeah m8, one pharah can deal with everything at all times. However the game is not a always perfect 1v1 condition and chances are she will be occupied with something else or fuck up. You don't start rip tire without your team having the enemy attention. If they start looking for the tire they are not shooting your allies and vice versa.
>>344554529
Except junkrat's riptire has an explosion radius larger than planet Jupiter. It can also climb walls, only shit junkrats let you see the thing before it's in range.
>>344555842
>just how little fun the game is now for mercy players.
Has more to do with the fact that the character is boring shit.
You press left or right mouse click and press q on teammates, that's your entire game. Switching to pistol is the only thing to break the mold because it's pretty powerful.
>>344553930
>>344553393
The res radius of the wall of the spawn you speak of covered maybe a quarter of the point. I've done what you describe many times and unless they all die against the opposite side of the wall, it's not a "team res"
>>344555604
>without her flying ability pretty slow
they have same movespeed. Wraith form takes away his angry shotguns and gives him 10% movespeed for 3 sec.
also i was mocking the retard that said reaper ulti being the equivalent of revive
>>344555969
it also deals 200 more damage (600) if it's on the ground when you blow it up rather than if it's in the air (400).
>>344548089
retard kill yourself
Junkrats ultimate is only worth it to bait out Lucios ultimate and then push with another ultimate against the enemy team.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344557564
That sentence reminds me of Go Tight! by AKINO
>>344552559
You need to have a healer in your team, the advantage they give is HUGE
that fuckin simple, thats why lucio/mercy always have 100% pick rate, they are the only choice
zenyatta doesnt count, its too slow and too little, you can heal more as a soldier
uhh no mercy has to work really hard to charge and use her ult. she DESERVES to be good once in awhile
I see far too many mercy players waiting until like 3 people are dead to res. When your ult charges in literally a minute, don't hesitate to res a single tank, or take note of the good dps on your team and res them when they die. This shit changes games.
The mercy that waits on her ult forever will get that lucky 4-5 man res like once every 10 games, racking up shit for resurrects, meanwhile I rarely play her and get up to 20 res a game by doing what I typed in the first part of my post
>>344558278
I have a bad habit of holding on to my rez, but it all depends on the situation, if we're pushing and I see a chance for 2 or more people I'll pop it, if my pocket dies at an important time I'll pop it, if I think we need someone that just died I'll pop it. I never really wait for big rezzes unless I think a lot of the team is gonna die soon, I think getting 2 people rezzed is worth the ult.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344554767
>Mercy has to get in range to use her ult and prior to that has to stay alive in general,
She can fly onto a dead teammate and press q in less than a second
Everyone's overpowered, when used right. Git gud or shut up.
>>344553859
kys if you think its originally from splatoon
>>344552559
For the same reasons teams priortize a 5-8 minute mek in Dota 2: A raw 25% increase in EHP is INSANE + aura benefits + bonus health regen.
A healer is even BETTER in games like Overwatch, because its not limited around the same teamfight & lane design.
You could pick a tank, a hero with 5-7x the HP of normal heroes, and then revive them afterwards.
If Mercy can ulti without a problem, your teams flankers arent doing their job. Healers are the first to kill in most team- and class based games, Overwatch is no exception. In MOBAs if you dont build antiheal gear or shut down the enemy team healer early on, they're going to steamroll you. If enemy team has a healer, you always need to counterplay against that healer somehow.
>>344560439
t. mercy main
>>344560562
Mercy is boring. Lucio or Zenyatta is more fun.
I recall Wolfenstein-ET and Quakewars ET medics being so broken that they were the main class in every single match in the frontlines. They got the same basic gun everyone else did, with few grenades and added ability to self-heal or heal others. WolfET they also got adrenaline shot that halved all damage they received which turned every medic into ramboes.
>>344561923
im guessing you remember your priest back in vanilla wow too
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
remove the fucking auto-regain from Ults
>free powerful abilities for doing nothing
>everyone else gets them too
>>344554180
>Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
It's called shift and positioning, retard
>>344554202
What's the problem you got with it honestly? 2k is a lot of health, if your team can't do anything with those 4-5 seconds then it's their fault not reinhardt shield being too weak.
>>344554180
>If anything Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
it's flying and not shitty positioning. You're a healer, you're supposed to rely on your teammates
After playing Lucio and then Mercy, I can't really go back to playing Lucio.
Mercy can deal some pretty respectable damage, her heal is super powerful, and her ult is always up.
>>344563746
>healslutting
>when you can UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWOovefpyq4
You can just admit you sucked at Lucio and need to play a baby healer.
>>344564471
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
>>344545938
>resurrection is overpowered
>in a game where you respawn in 5 seconds anyway
>>344564471
Not everyone is korean unfortunately
Go to vg you disgusting casual trash.
>>344555261
It takes less than a second for a mercy to peek out from behind a wall, fly to a dead teammate and press Q with impunity.
You can even ult halfway there.
They really need to make it counterable, the rez going off right at the start of the animation is way too good for mercy, and is impossible to stop on reaction. The only way to stop a mercy from Rezzing is to kill her before her team.
>>344565275
>implying you need to be korean to hold the Jump button to Wall Ride and tap A and D fast to strafe back and forth
Yeah just stick with mercy, healslut. Just remember to press Q and you're fine. :)
At least until a Lucio player kills you and baits the enemy team away from the objective.
>>344551841maybe they're already in Valhalla
>>344565030
In a game where points are captured in like 15 seconds and it takes 30+ seconds to walk back to them from spawn after waiting to respawn, yeah.
Especially when it's a full rez in less than half a second for multiple people without even needing line of sight, on a character with a mobility skill that lets them fly faster than most anyone else can move directly to teammates or dead bodies from across the map.
>>344553363
>>the resurrect can now hit a maximum of 3 people
Hey, how about we make that everybody's ult can kill/affect only 3 people? Brilliant!
>>344566191
MIND BLOWN
>Overwatch is not about Overwatch organization
>it's an endless fight between dead heroes over and over
>MOTHERFUCKING VALHALLA
they are dead man, DEAD
>>344565739
Lmao that never happens kid.
>>344567095
Yeah it does. you don't know how many retards follow Lucio players around because they prioritize healers.
>>344566887
Does that mean what's left of Pharah's corporeal is an amputee?
>>344569209
corporeal form*
>>344545938
Delete your racist image first and we can talk.
Is the Overwatch community the whiniest kind of shitters?
I enjoy the game but everyone is just like "WAAAH nerf this because I can't use my main otherwise"
>>344569209Whoever defeated her kept her limbs from going into the after life and is using them
I enjoy playing both Mercy and Lucio, but I prefer Mercy a lot more.
I have won no less than a dozen King's Row matches defending on point A by just sitting inside, waiting for them to ult bomb my whole team, then popping out and hitting Q.
There is almost no way to stop it and it works every time.
Also Valkyrie skins are ugly. Go for the gold skin or Celestial.
Is it worth playing ranked yet
>People actively wanting to nerf Mercy in her current state while Lucio exists as he does now
Nah...
>>344573353
Lucio is worse than Mercy in most situations.
>>344573484
Said no one ever
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344574354
Said everyone always.
>>344573484
>>344573484
Mercy is worse than Lucio in most situations.
>>344554817
Reaper need to be in right place in right time hoping that enemies are idiots and that they won't kill/stun him instantly
Mercy just have to press shift and Q
and thats coming from a mercy player.
You already see double Lucio alot. She'll never be viable in control point maps (at a high level) since she can't heal herself, unlike Lucio. She's a breathe away from being obsolete in general. I'd like to see Mercy reworked, and Lucio. Mercy is fun to heal with but her ult isn't. Lucio's is boring to heal with but his ult feels great.
>>344545938
Mercy is perfectly balanced leave her alone
if you boost her healing then you make anyone who is being healed by her completely immortal
if you boost her damage boost output you make for some serious bullshit one hit KO's.
If you nerf her rez then you have to compensate some how, and honestly the only people who are fucked over by her rez are people who can't even target mercy.
>>344561923
lucio is boring as shit
zenyatta and mercy are most fun.
>>344574647
Resurrect > Dank Beats
Stop playing with shitters who don't prioritize her as a target. If she can survive a fight or make it to the frontline on her own she deserves to use her ult.
>>344546546
You did not outplay the enemy team if you didn't kill the Mercy first, they outplayed you.
Her resurrect ult is meant to punish those who have shitty flankers who don't kill the support. Just like symettras teleporter fucks over anyone who doesn't find it and kill it. It's a good ult to keep people on the point just like all the other supports do, and considering the fact that she can't kill anything her ult is what saves her from being garbage since it's the best support ult. Symettras and mercy are the best defense supports and then Lucio is best for offense. Zenyatta is good for more dps but he can't support on his own just like symmetra cant.
My problem with Lucio is that while he brings a lot of utility to the table and is more self sufficient when the enemy team puts on a lot of pressure, such as when you're defending, his healing just can't cut it, Mercy does a better job at keeping people alive, maybe not everyone, but at least some people alive during big pushes. That's one of the biggest reasons why I prefer Mercy, that and she works well with a pocket.
>>344552829
6-10 seconds of them concentrating fire on you to take down the shield is a pretty big deal though.
>>344575216
Right, Lucio can't stop an Ult wombo combo but a Mercy can completely undo it after it happens.
>>344575990
Not necessarily just ults, just lot of pressure in general. Lucio heals more than Mercy generally, but his healing at critical times isn't as strong as Mercy, Mercy is better at keeping people alive.
>>344571591
I prefer Cobalt
Hurr just target the Mercy.
I did she died at the start of the team battle and in the time it took for her to res and get back was the perfect time to fucking Res everyone through the fucking ground.
>>344576329
Cobalt is just ok. Really the only bad ones are the Valkyrie ones and Imp.
>>344576968
I hate that shit.
>>344577576
I can hear the Bastion player saying "oh fuck" as he realizes how screwed he is.
>>344545938
Keep her ult charge the same but make her the only character whose charge resets upon death.
>Lmao dude she's like the medic
>With one of the best movement options in the game with her flight
>And the medic never lost uber upon death
>And could bring people back to life
>>344552872
>The point is to have these two characters on both teams at all times
Kill yourself
I just go after her with my hot monkey dick all the time. She doesn't get to do much when I'm around.
>>344577683
That would be a good idea actually. It would reward good positioning and protecting the Mercy at any cost.
>>344574707
>she cant heal herself
>heals to full in a second by herself
What
>>344577861
And give Mercy players another reason to complain and to try to make people ride her dick?
No thanks.
>lucios ult is worse, has windup time
>mercys ult is instant
xD
>>344577683
>And if the Medic had another, faster healer who healed everyone at once near him to stack with the Medic's automatic health regeneration
Lucio and Mercy control this entire game.
Just make it so if she dies before she says the full phrase, she doesn't get a rez off.
>tfw you hook a mercy before she even raises her hand and says Helden but she still gets the rez off
dumb af desu senpai smdh
She's fine you raging shitter
>>344548075
i don't get it
>>344578836
What's not to get?
>>344548075
>>344578969
>mercy acting smug like a cunt
>teammates give her the middlefinger and abandon her
>she gets turbofucked by two roadhogs
feels good man
>>344579117
I'm allowed to be smug when I'm the reason the team wins.
>>344545938
>you wipe the entire enemy team
>WOOPS you didn't find the mercy sitting in their spawn around a corner! Now you lose
>full team rez
>it's recharged before you can even do another execute
>you have to kill the mercy who is hiding, then their entire team and then cap it before she respawns and rezzes everyone
It's just a fucking dull play pattern that makes makes maps like Temple of Anubis even more shit.
There needs to be a 1 second cast time on the rez so it isn't an instant I win button.
>>344545938
post potgs
>>344579307
What the shit?
>>344579283
>>WOOPS you didn't find the mercy
Yes, if you don't take out the mercy you get punished. It's part of the sequencing of high level meta play
![[Raughs].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LIDljiN.jpg "[Raughs].jpg")
>>344548075
>>344578969
>>344579223
>healers thinking they're the reason the team wins
Healers are ONLY needed when their team is filled with incompetent shits that don't know where health packs spawn.
>>344548089
>>344575085
>kill mercy first
>kill everyone else
>she walks out of spawn and revives everyone
AYY LMAO
>>344579307
>>344579307
That was fucking more lackluster than an afk Torb POTG. Terrible.
>>344579358
It happens sometimes, the potg calculation is still pretty strange
>>344545938
Remove the immunity players have when they're being revived.
Shooting the yellow hero shilloutes enough will kill them again.
Thats what I would do anyway.
>>344578173
I NEED THE SOURCE BB
>>344545938
>>344546194
I'll fix this shit.
First, it needs not to fill heroes with full health automatically.
I would suggest a pool of 500maybe 1000 hprestored per use. Say if you revive 5 people, each gets 100or 200hp. Revive 2 people, each gets 250or 500hp.
Also, this HP pool should be fluid. Say, using the 500 hp pool, if you double rez say a Reinhardt and a Zen (150hp), it would give Zen 150 hp and Rein 350 hp.
Solo/double rezing would be encouraged too, so the team's Mercy doesn't hold her ult for the "perfect moment POTG."
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tightWE HAVE TWO HUNDRED COUCHES WHERE YOU CAN
>>344579576
>that aiming
cringe, watching non-mains try to play her is awful
Here's how you fix Mercy. It's quite simple really.
Make her ult carry five charges maximum, one for each teammate. And then she uses each charge to revive a hero she's looking at one at a time within a certain range like how Symmetra gives people shields.
Each 25% charge of her ult is one revive.
So how it would work in a teamfight is that you'll be reviving people left and right still but you can't just automatically take away someone that just ulted your entire team's progress in the blink of an eye.
>>344580321
I meant 20%
>>344580317
i think he was trying to avoid the reaper. no point in 1v1 him
>>344580203
>Solo/double rezing would be encouraged too, so the team's Mercy doesn't hold her ult for the "perfect moment POTG."
No, don't simplify it for shitters. The decision-making of how many to res keeps Mercy play more complex and game-changing, and puts more risk and responsibility in the hands of the player
>>344580507
Reaper is easily killable as mercy.
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344550208
More like why is a Swiss character's costume something from Norse mythology
>>344580609
wait. are you trying to trick me?
>>344580835
>Why does an australian have a scarecrow outfit
>Why does a japanese cyborg have a sandnig outfit
>Why does a robot monk have an eygptian god outfit
half the skins don't make any sense
>>344580910
chinese person looks like an eskimo
>MFW Genji runs deep behind enemy lines and screams for healing
>>344545938
It's only "overpowered" because the average player is a fucking idiot and never targets Mercy first when jumping into the fight.
She's always my first target when I jump in on attack, so she can't use her Ult.
Too many times I've seen the team jump in and completely ignore her in favour of seemingly more threatening targets, only to have the entire team ressed infront of them.
I suppose you could add it so it can be interupted, given it's an instacast and still works even if you die immediately after pushing the button.
>>344581117
>Be Mercy
>Pushing the objective with most of my team, healing and damage buffing
>Widowmaker camped on a roof far behind us is spamming "I need healing!"
>She won't even reveal herself so I can't target her to glide up
>>344580321
If you think the revive every 20% is too strong we could instead make it so that once she gets 100% charge, she needs to use all five of her revives before having to get back to 100% charge to be able to revive again.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight.
Mercy mains have become almost as bad as Genji mains.
Most refuse to switch to Lucio when they keep getting targeted down and spend most of their time whining in chat.
>>344547376
>kill her first
retard spotted
So why doesn't Mercy say: "Live, live, live!" after she revives people that died from a Reaper ult?
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight.
>>344581317
>you will never get bowl cut tips from sammy
>>344581181
>target Mercy
>she dies
>she respawns later
>after a long teamfight, you see that suicidal bitch gliding
>you successfully killed her dmc dante style by headshotting her in the air with a bullet propelled with your fucking kick
>oops, too bad she pressed q and all her teammates are revived
>>344581792
Thats shite timing. Most maps, she moves so slow without people to glide to that she'd only be able to revive people who'd died very recently.
>>344581732
>you'll never be invited to the bowl cut cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_J89LJSvL8
>>344545938
I remember blizzard mentioning nerfing her
only 3 revs per use
>>344582581
>only 3 revs per use
That's stupid
Why would anyone use Mercy over Lucio then?
>Mercy's ultimate now resurrects a maximum of 3 people
>For each person resurrected, her ultimate charge amount decreases by 33.3 (repeating of course) percent
>If she resurrects one person, she will retain 66% ultimate charge
>If she resurrects two people, she will retain 33% ultimate charge
>If she resurrects three people, she will start over at 0%
>Mercy's ultimate charge rate decreased by 50%
>Mercy is now a much more interesting battle medic who makes decisions on resurrecting key members of the team instead of hiding while 5 people die
Fixed.
>>344549776
Sleep tight reap right
>>344549776
Sleep tight, reap tight.
>>344582983
>teamwipe
>mercy comes in to ressurect
>game randomly chooses 3 people
>none of them are your tanks
Shit idea. Go back to the fucking drawing board kiddo.
>Ult goes through walls, objects, large aoe
>Animation is completely separate to time it takes effect
>Completely restores to full, gives players 1.3 seconds on invincibility so they're not immediately killed
>All on the fastest charging ult in the game
>On a character with a small hitbox and easy escapes
>Luicio plays a sounds and needs to touch the ground giving counterplay, does not go through walls, can be waited out if needed
>Zen is rendered unable to attack, can be knocked around, AoE is clearly visible and not that big
Mercyfags are literally delusional if they don't think they're completely broken. You probably think Roadhog is fine if you think Mercy is okay.
I've been stuck around 59-61. When the teammates are decent I feel like my contribution takes us over the top, but then I get strings of Hanzo mains and teammates that just seem to die left and right regardless of my efforts. Is this my limit, or should I try learning harder carries like Genji?
>>344579516
>playing against people SO BAD that there's no need to heal
Even Lucio is obsolete at this point because he just can't heal fast enough and often enough to undo the damage of a competent team.
>>344553879
Wanna know how I know you've never bothered playing Mercy? Because you have to be right up the ass of a dead teammate in order to get the revive prompt. Line of sight isn't even good enough.
>>344581998
She can glide to the souls of dead people.
>>344545938
It only needs two nerfs honestly.
1) Flight towards corpses either needs a slowed rate, or a reduced range in order to activate it
2) No ulting through fucking walls
There. Fixed Mercy. If she becomes unplayed in comp, give her increases to her healing rate (such as giving a temporary health overcharge when healing someone past full that dissipates over time) or damage boost.
>>344581998
Horse shit nigga, she can glide to any yellow flame left by a dead character.
>>344581998
I've killed Mercy so fast I didn't even get to hear the voiceover or see her animation start. Peeps still got revived.
how about when mercy's utl hits 100% the first time its starts to degrade after 2 - 3 seconds to where she has to health/damage boost to keep it at 100 so she cant just sit behind a wall after getting full charge
>>344584267
The AOE ignores terrain.
>>344545938
I know you need to kill her first but people never seen to acknowledge that hse's behind 5 teammates all shooting at you, it's harder that you're making it out to seem
How to fix Mercy: Give Q a short cast time, like a quarter of a second; if you kill her while she's casting the rez is aborted.
