Her resurrect ult is overpowered. Prove me wrong.
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You can fix her bullshit just by increasing the charge rate of her ultimate by 30%
Just kill her first, retard.
>>344545938
Just have a RIP-tyre or D.va destruct ready for when you hear it
Its not really over-powered its just broken slightly.
It charges insanely quickly, its impossible to interrupt so it becomes completely about the skill of the Mercy in timing it rather than the enemy team having a say in things like pretty much ever other Ult.
It goes through fucking walls and ceilings.
The largest problem with Mercy and really more her Ult is how fucking off-putting and disheartening it can be. Its sheer frustration to out maneuver and kill most of a team and have all that work be undone because the Mercy was right at the back behind a fucking box crouching.
She's frail as hell and can be caught defenseless all the time in teamfights by anyone with a bit of mobility, it's your own fault if you can't prioritize targets right.
kill her first
you should always kill the support first anyways
they are weak and die quickly, and it will make the next teamfight way easier
a good team will have some people whose goal is to go behind the enemy lines and hunt supports and snipers (winston/tracer). it really doesn't take much at all to properly harass them
a better team will also protect their supports, but most of the time they are flat out ignored.
>>344545938
Symmetry teleporter is better than mercy res.
I can't, you're right.
Mercy main here
Go fuck yourself OP.
>>344546194
This is the stupidest, laziest solution and is the opinion of somebody who never plays Mercy. If you nerf her ult charge at all she will be fucking useless. She needs buffs in other areas if her ult is ever to be nerfed.
Just gonna drop this here...
>>344546546
>it's sheer frustration to kill a team
>only to have mercy res everyone
Am I the only person seeing what is ridiculously wrong with this bad overwatch player's statement
No spawnprotection.
That way it gets a whole bunch fairer whilst also promoting communication.
i wish other supports besides lucio were viable. symmetra is literally defense and zenyatta is objectively the worst hero in the game.
>>344548089
When you take it out of context yes it sounds wrong but it was fine in context stop being a cunt
>>344545938
it is and games that arent filled with shitters all admit it
you kill mercy (who usually has a lucio around her) you win the fight
you dont and you lose the fight
both teams have both of this heroes
games are decided around mercy
>>344545938
Make it interruptable, and increase the cast time by .5 seconds or so.
It's not OP. All the healer ults can counter an enemy ult. Several ults can wipe a team like reaper, zarya, pharah, junkrat, mei, etc. The healer ults can counter that pretty much equally except that lucio's is a bit weak.
>>344548243
No, it wasnt. Kill the fucking healer you shitter.
>reaper mains buttmad that another hero can invalidate their Q
It's only OP because there is no true counter
There's a few ways to fix it. Maybe give it like a casting time of a second so that if you kill her before it goes off, no rez. Or maybe they're rezzed but with less health than if she finished casting
If ults can wipe entire teams without any effort then Mercy's res is not OP.
Ults shouldn't exist anyway since they're just a free triple kill assuming you aren't retarded.
>>344545938
just kill faster shitscrub
>>344548250
just like tf2
mercy has no kill options, a tracer can hunt her down easily. Its her job
>>344545938
both sides can use it so it's perfectly fair
>>344546710
>>344547376
This. Kill her, then send somebody to harass spawn.This tactic has let me practice against spawncampers and I can now effectively pea shoot bad/average Genjis and terrible Tracers. My dream is to successfully 1v1 an average Tracer!
>>344545938
I had a game once where someone on our team wouldn't stop bitching that we need a Mercy because the other Mercy ulted 4 times so we need a Mercy so we can ult also and res and also we need a Mercy and holy shit this kid would not shut up.
I told him, "Shoot the healers first" and he started doing it, and funny story we didn't hear her res anyone after that.
>>344545938
Im so fucking tired of this retarded "if its annoying its overpowered" cancer meme, you people are so fucking stupid
>Make it so ressurecting people takes a couple seconds instead of them spawning instantly with spawn protection
>Make it so killing the Mercy would stop it
There, fixed it
>>344545938
you're supposed to have a mercy in your own team too retard, the one killing the enemy mercy first won.
stop crying if your team composition is this stupid reaper/genji/hanzo mains.
>>344545938
I don't understand why they use a Valkyrie. Valkyries send you to Valhalla they don't heal you or resurrect you. They wait for your dead and then take you to paradise. The grim reaper or the angel of death are the same as Valkyries.
tl;dr: Blizzard is retarded.
>>344547537
>play sym alot
>figure out clever effective placements for teleport
>no one uses it
>>344550208Mercy is basically canon an ancient evil at this point
>>344550208Everyone is already dead
>>344550208
autism
>>344550239
>play poo in loo a lot
>figure out stupid placements like teleport sending people 25 billions kilometers away, or right in front of a cliff
>everyone uses it and then report me
>>344550328
>implying Death in any of their interpretations is evil
get your shit together and read more, anon
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight!
>>344550239
>Two tele uses left
>Walk back the long way so other more useful classes can use it
>"wtf sym use the teleporter"
>>344550328
Sauce or bullshit.
>>344545938
the game is a piece of shit
>>344550208
they feast and fight in Valhalla.
>>344550208
Valhalla is where warriors endlessly fight and don't stay dead, retard
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight
>>344548028
>This is the stupidest, laziest solution and is the opinion of somebody who never plays Mercy.
You are the fucking retard man, her entire problem lies in the fact that she can spam her Ultimate almost all the time. Increasing the time she gains the Ultimate is the only way to fix her broken ass. That way you need to consider when to pop it instead of pressing Q when someone farted at your teammate.
Also maybe make Mercys damage buff regenerate Reinhardts Shield.
>>344551268
they take the dead (their souls) to Valhalla. They are not resurrected asshole
>>344551608
>Give the most synergistic hero more synergy with another powerful hero
You're just embarrassing yourself.
>>344551608
or maybe you could focus on mercy fucking ass instead of shooting like a braindead retard all day long roadhog godzilla sized belly, giving mercy her ult in 3.5 seconds.
It's the same shit in tf2, kill the fucking medic first you fucking stupid fuck and stop fucking complaining. Even if you die will doing so it's worth a try.
>>344552016
Start actually playing competitive in a premade before talking out of your ass. Reinhardts shield drops faster than any potato on any map that isn't Payload.
>>344552147
Yes because that's so easy, explains why Mercy is always a 100% pick along with Lucio in competitive.
Stop playing the game in Solo-Queue you shitter. Trying to kill Mercy is pretty hard with Lucio hanging around and vice versa.
>>344552271
He is still one of the most used heroes in competitive, same as mercy. I'm not saying they're op but they obviously are more viable in more situations than other heroes, and they really don't need a buff. All defensive heroes are shut down quicker in higher tier play, it's still a stupid idea.
>>344552271
what do you need more, a shield with 50 billions pv?
If you're not using your shield like a retard he last long enough to be a pain in the ass before dropping.
But hey, you're probably walking alone in soloQ with a dumb mercy healing your ass, what am I trying to teach you here ...
>>344552620
Try keeping your shield up with two Zaryas, Torb and Phara. They burn through half of it in3-5 seconds.
>>344552559
>Yes because that's so easy, explains why Mercy is always a 100% pick along with Lucio in competitive.
it's the point you fucking mouthbreathing mongoloid, healer are hard to kill, that's why you need someone playing agro to focus the enemy support.
>>344552829
>there were only 4 dps shooting at me! why did i die!?
>>344552829
and it's 3-5 second of your team not being destroyed by the enemy team, use it or stfu ;^)
>>344545938
I think Lucio's ult is more useful. Gives a team the staying powere without interruption. Mercy's problem is that her ult charges too fast. Meanwhile Zenyatta has the shittiest support ult and it takes forever to charge.
The way I see it there are 3 ways to fix her ult, only one needs to be applied however:
>give it a "cast time", like a full 1 second where if the enemy is quick enough they can cancel it completely
>resurrected allies come back with 33% health instead of 100%
>the resurrect can now hit a maximum of 3 people
>>344552872
No fucking shit, then stop making it sound so easy to just get behind the fucking lines and wipe the supports off when half the shit maps are chokepoints like Anubis.
>Wipe Mercy first and then her team at the last point of Anubis
>Runs to the wall in her spawn presses Q and revives her entire team without being able to really stop it.
G fucking G
>>344545938
If your team is garbage then lucio is a better pick
>>344552921
>>344552962
That's every team you little shit, according to you I should just stop playing Reinhardt because the shield gets broken by literally every competent team in a short matter of time turning you into Roadhog 2.0 without one-shots. Might as well play Roadhog at that point.
>>344551608
The entire point of her ultimate is that you CAN spam it, you have the option of reviving solo players often or saving it for a big teamfight. Being that the ultimate requires at least one player to be dead to even use it's obviously a counter, with it being designed like this the whole point is that she has it available as often as possible and the tough part is choosing when and staying alive to use it.
>Let's make it charge slower
Really stupid idea, all you are doing is making the entire situation worse for everyone. With an ult that charges slower Mercy can now no longer use her ultimate as much, this makes her ult far more precious, requires her to hide more, and makes her even MORE of a target for the enemy.
The real issue is that there are only two real supports in the game and as a whole the game is designed around every team having at least one.
>>344553363
>>resurrected allies come back with 33% health instead of 100%
>freeze in a gold light aura in front of the ennemy for like 2 seconds while being invincible
>then everyone shot you down cause you only have 33% of your life
pretty retarded t b h desu senpai
>>344545938
>question is in the title
>Prove me wrong
Sure, you made this thread to have 529 posts and 198 images omitted, click reply to view.
>>344553393
>>344552872
Mercy is incredibly easy to kill and her ult has a fairly small radius.
>Anubis second point
If she walks to the wall in the spawn she can only revive people who died either on the left or right hall, the cubby hole behind the point, and just a few feet onto the point itself. The small range does not cover most of the point or the large opening in the right hall or the open area outside the spawn to the left.
If you don't play mercy or know how her abilities work you should really stop posting like you do.
>>344548075
>taking a line from the Splatoon Miiverse
What a lazy hack
>>344553614
They need to rework how the ultimate in itself work. The thing I hate most is shit like >>344553393 when Mercy doesn't even need to be in line of sight to revive everyone.
The entire match turns into hide and seek in hope you find Mercy before your team is done finishing of the enemy team, this here >>344553490 happens far to often.
>>344553393
didn't said it was easy you dipshit, she's hard to kill because she's the one everyone will try to kill in the enemy team, it's not rocket science.
>Wipe Mercy first and then her team at the last point of Anubis
>Runs to the wall in her spawn presses Q and revives her entire team without being able to really stop it.
G fucking G
and what, don't you have a mercy in your own team who can do the exact same shit?
Play double support or gtfo.
>>344553602
Literally no one said that. Rein is still one of the most played tanks and his shield is fine. Stop being such a whiny bitch.
>>344553804
While you are partly right most people still die close enough for you being able to revive all of them unless they die on the outer edge of the point and rarely anyone dies there, not even the attacking time.
>>344545938
Rez shouldn't work unless her animation finishes. Mercy's ult in its current form is the most braindead ult in the game.
Charge rate is fine and it makes Mercy valuable, but it shouldn't be that simple to full heal dead allies.
>>344553879
So it's ok for reaper to hide and jump out to ult 5 people but it's not ok for mercy to hide and jump out to revive 5 people?
Mercy and her ult are fine as they are and shes really the only reason the defensive team has a chance on most maps. The real problem is that there are only two supports in the game right now (zen was nerfed and is total trash) and you need at least one in order to win. If anything Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
>>344553934
>Literally no one said that
The implication is still there, name me a single instance when there isn't 4 DPS.
And the reason why Reinhardt is played so often in Comp is only due the fact that Tracer gets used so often.
It's basically Rein, 2x Zarya, Mercy Lucio.
>play support
>enemy flankers constantly on your ass
>people 2 steps in front of you fail to notice or care, nobody turns around to help you
>team-mates spread out as far as possible, Winston from behind the enemy team calls for heals
>play against support
>team completely ignores them
>get focused hard the moment you yourself put pressure on them
>team-mates outright ignore the healer right next to the tank they're attacking (bonus points of they're attacking a shielded Zarya instead)
I'm very close to just uninstalling the game. Solo queue is a horrible, horrible mess and Blizzard's matchmaking does not function in the slightest.
I'm always getting matched with at least 2-3 people who don't give a single shit about composition or picking a hero that makes sense. Never switch, never focus healers, never group up.
Playing with friends is not an option since they are nearly all casuals who don't care about winning and "main" heroes like Widowmaker and Genji.
>>344551608
>Hurrdurr Mercy's ult is OP
Tf senpai, in most games I kill at least 3 opponents with one rip-tire multiple times. And although I never play fuckin Hanzo proper use of his ultimate also reks at least half the time fairly often. DPS has strong offensive ults, support has strong defensive ults. Wtf are you whining about?
>>344554180
You can interrupt Reapers ultimate with McCree, push him away, hook him, one-shot him with Hanzo. Theres a lot of ways to stop Reaper while there's almost no way to stop Mercys Ultimate unless you you kill her the moment she pressed Q which is more a random chance than intentional.
>>344553671
Her ult is not suppose to be this grand savior of every fucked battle.
It's suppose to be something that can save you if you're good.
As it stands right now it just turns practically any 5-v-5 around in a heartbeat.
>>344554387
>I kill at least 3 opponents with one rip-tire multiple times
not even him but the enemy team must be absolutely shit to get hit by junkrats riptire.
>>344554529
>Mine myself up to higher place
>Drop rip-tires from above
>Good luck
t. Junkrat
>>344554420
Mercy has to get in range to use her ult and prior to that has to stay alive in general, that's hard for a 200 hp hero with zero offensive or defensive abilities when you can:
>Stun and kill her with McCree
>Push her away
>Hook her
>one-shot her with Hanzo
>Theres a lot of ways to stop Reaper while there's almost no way to stop Mercys Ultimate unless you you kill her the moment she pressed Q which is more a random chance than intentional.
This is how everyone knows you're a bad player, you are focusing on the moment she presses her Q button instead of realizing she exists on the map prior to that. Instead of keeping track of where she is and doing what you can to take her out first you completely forget about her till she flies in and revives. Then you come here and whine like a baby.
>>344554503
>it's ok to kill 5 people with reaper shitty ult just by teleporting on a cliff and then jumping into the fight and press Q
>it's not ok for mercy to revive 5 people with her ult
/v/ logic
>>344554754
again, the enemy team must be shit if they don't look up and try to shoot it down.
how much hp does it even have? 75 or 100?
>>344554387
I haven't seen people be killed by a Rip-Tire or RGWTOK in ages.
Two of the more shitty ultimates if you ask me. A couple of months ago they devastated entire teams, but people gotten wise as to what to do when they hear those ults go off.
Graviton Surge is the new team killer ulti.
>>344554817
Reaper can be frozen, stunned, or hooked during his ult to stop it.
Mercy can't.
>>344554767
>Zero offensive abilities
You are aware you can switch to a gun with Mercy right? I actually get quite a fair amount of eliminations (non-support) in between healing whilst playing Mercy.
bring back the cast time from pre launch
>>344554975
that's because people were shit and retarded and got hit by literally everything. You have to actually wait for the right time to shit out a tire that can get more than 1 kill compared to getting a quad every time it's up
>>344554817
You can play around Reaper though. Get to cover, get behind Reinhardt, get Lucio to pop an ult etc.
You can kill Mercy the nanosecond she hits that Q though and it'll still completely turn the tide of the battle.
Mercy/Lucio main here on a comp team
It's not broken, it's about parity with Lucio and Zenyattas ult. All 3 are meant to be defense-breakers, group up and charge through. Lucio and Zen's are more powerful on offense allowing you to brute force through for example the first entrance on Anubis. Res isn't as good on offense but has more utility on defense
It charges very fast but in order to charge your team has to be taking lots of damage. If your team is taking lots of damage guess what, the enemy is charging their ult's very fast too.
The only thing is the animation should finish to work, I understand that criticism. I've seen how frustrating it is for a mercy to res seemingly after dying
Also Mercy is only OP on lower skill brackets. On high end comp matches I get hunted by Pharahs and the Tracers can actually kill me before I kill them. Then I hop on some friends sub-50 comp matches or quick play and lmao, the enemy team just lets me fly in and quad-res, and I go around hunting Tracers and Reapers with the pistol
>>344554767
>you are focusing on the moment she presses her Q button
I didn't say that at all. It was only an example as when the only chance appears where you can interrupt her ult underlying that it's factually uninterruptible unless by sheer luck.
Optimally you should kill Mercy at the same time as her team, if you kill her to early she will be able to fly back into the fight and then revive like a cunt because the souls lie longer than she is dead.
>>344554990
You do realize she is a character in the game like everyone else right? She isn't some invisible invulnerable god mode hero that can't be touched until a tenth of a second before using her ult.
Mercy can be frozen, stunned, hooked, pinned, stuck, sniped, booped, shock rifle comboed, scatter shot, genji/tracer harassed, Zarya ult'd, left clicked, right clicked, meleed, and stared at.
>>344554990
mercy should be your fucking main target in the game and she can't teleport or use reaper gay cape floating ability.
She's usually killed before she actually can approach her dead teammates. And even if she succed 50% of the time she die while resurrecting her team, and that's definitely a good thing.
>>344555134
Any good Pharah will take to the sky and rocket the shit out of your rubber.
>>344554817
if the reaper could ulti through walls, instantly delete everyone in 0.1 seconds unless someone killed him first, barriers/shield didn't work then yeah they would be exact opposites.
What if you made her ultimate needing line of sight to resurrect characters?
Mercy ult is dumb because once she has it it becomes more effective for her to hide and let her team die on purpose, because if she actually helps her team she's at risk of dying before she can mash her instant 5-man 100% hp button
>>344555408
Revive requires players to already be dead, that's about as big of a downside as I can imagine.
>>344555134
This desu, I wouldn't say I'm necessarily a really great player, but I know my way with Junkrat. Also, I'm on ps4 so it might be slightly harder to get a quick shot on the tire.
Most Junkrats are insanely shit tho and as soon as their tire is ready they fire it in an open space where it has to travel through enemy LoS and fire and gets shot down.
>>344545938
>get one of the tracer/reaper/genji/hanzo/widowmaker shitters on your team to stop sucking and go after the largely defenseless healslut first
>Alternately get one of the reaper/genji/hanzo/junkrat/D.va shitters to hold their Q back until she's popped her revive
Literally just git gud.
>>344555243
>If your team is taking lots of damage guess what, the enemy is charging their ult's very fast too.
the thing is that for every point of dmg done she get more charge and damage done on your teammates is not done by 1 player while the healing is. You will get ress before enemy gets their ultimate unless her allies outright die every time
>>344555408
reaper do massive damage with his shotgun, mercy is practically defenseless and without her flying ability pretty slow, so it's a good balance.
>>344553859
>thinking an old joke like that one is orginaly from splatoon
>>344555532
please never play mercy you retard.
>>344555552
It also seems that most Junkrats don't know the tire can climb walls. Or potential victims for that matter.
>>344555574
Revive requires players to be dead, it's not something you can just use whenever you want like any other ultimate. Because of this very situational use it has to charge quickly or else you'd only ever get to use it one time in a game. What you forget is she is extremely fragile and against good teams it's very difficult to even get in and do big revives, if you slow down her charge the entire game ends up revolving around whether or not she gets that ONE revive chance right.
Think about it for a few minutes and realize just how little fun the game is now for mercy players.
>>344555713
>climb walls
Neither do most Hanzos
>>344555405
Yeah m8, one pharah can deal with everything at all times. However the game is not a always perfect 1v1 condition and chances are she will be occupied with something else or fuck up. You don't start rip tire without your team having the enemy attention. If they start looking for the tire they are not shooting your allies and vice versa.
>>344554529
Except junkrat's riptire has an explosion radius larger than planet Jupiter. It can also climb walls, only shit junkrats let you see the thing before it's in range.
>>344555842
>just how little fun the game is now for mercy players.
Has more to do with the fact that the character is boring shit.
You press left or right mouse click and press q on teammates, that's your entire game. Switching to pistol is the only thing to break the mold because it's pretty powerful.
>>344553930
>>344553393
The res radius of the wall of the spawn you speak of covered maybe a quarter of the point. I've done what you describe many times and unless they all die against the opposite side of the wall, it's not a "team res"
>>344555604
>without her flying ability pretty slow
they have same movespeed. Wraith form takes away his angry shotguns and gives him 10% movespeed for 3 sec.
also i was mocking the retard that said reaper ulti being the equivalent of revive
>>344555969
it also deals 200 more damage (600) if it's on the ground when you blow it up rather than if it's in the air (400).
>>344548089
retard kill yourself
Junkrats ultimate is only worth it to bait out Lucios ultimate and then push with another ultimate against the enemy team.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344557564
That sentence reminds me of Go Tight! by AKINO
>>344552559
You need to have a healer in your team, the advantage they give is HUGE
that fuckin simple, thats why lucio/mercy always have 100% pick rate, they are the only choice
zenyatta doesnt count, its too slow and too little, you can heal more as a soldier
uhh no mercy has to work really hard to charge and use her ult. she DESERVES to be good once in awhile
I see far too many mercy players waiting until like 3 people are dead to res. When your ult charges in literally a minute, don't hesitate to res a single tank, or take note of the good dps on your team and res them when they die. This shit changes games.
The mercy that waits on her ult forever will get that lucky 4-5 man res like once every 10 games, racking up shit for resurrects, meanwhile I rarely play her and get up to 20 res a game by doing what I typed in the first part of my post
>>344558278
I have a bad habit of holding on to my rez, but it all depends on the situation, if we're pushing and I see a chance for 2 or more people I'll pop it, if my pocket dies at an important time I'll pop it, if I think we need someone that just died I'll pop it. I never really wait for big rezzes unless I think a lot of the team is gonna die soon, I think getting 2 people rezzed is worth the ult.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344554767
>Mercy has to get in range to use her ult and prior to that has to stay alive in general,
She can fly onto a dead teammate and press q in less than a second
Everyone's overpowered, when used right. Git gud or shut up.
>>344553859
kys if you think its originally from splatoon
>>344552559
For the same reasons teams priortize a 5-8 minute mek in Dota 2: A raw 25% increase in EHP is INSANE + aura benefits + bonus health regen.
A healer is even BETTER in games like Overwatch, because its not limited around the same teamfight & lane design.
You could pick a tank, a hero with 5-7x the HP of normal heroes, and then revive them afterwards.
If Mercy can ulti without a problem, your teams flankers arent doing their job. Healers are the first to kill in most team- and class based games, Overwatch is no exception. In MOBAs if you dont build antiheal gear or shut down the enemy team healer early on, they're going to steamroll you. If enemy team has a healer, you always need to counterplay against that healer somehow.
>>344560439
t. mercy main
>>344560562
Mercy is boring. Lucio or Zenyatta is more fun.
I recall Wolfenstein-ET and Quakewars ET medics being so broken that they were the main class in every single match in the frontlines. They got the same basic gun everyone else did, with few grenades and added ability to self-heal or heal others. WolfET they also got adrenaline shot that halved all damage they received which turned every medic into ramboes.
>>344561923
im guessing you remember your priest back in vanilla wow too
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
remove the fucking auto-regain from Ults
>free powerful abilities for doing nothing
>everyone else gets them too
>>344554180
>Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
It's called shift and positioning, retard
>>344554202
What's the problem you got with it honestly? 2k is a lot of health, if your team can't do anything with those 4-5 seconds then it's their fault not reinhardt shield being too weak.
>>344554180
>If anything Mercy needs a personal defensive ability so she doesn't die so easily to everything.
it's flying and not shitty positioning. You're a healer, you're supposed to rely on your teammates
After playing Lucio and then Mercy, I can't really go back to playing Lucio.
Mercy can deal some pretty respectable damage, her heal is super powerful, and her ult is always up.
>>344563746
>healslutting
>when you can UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWOovefpyq4
You can just admit you sucked at Lucio and need to play a baby healer.
>>344564471
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
>>344545938
>resurrection is overpowered
>in a game where you respawn in 5 seconds anyway
>>344564471
Not everyone is korean unfortunately
Go to vg you disgusting casual trash.
>>344555261
It takes less than a second for a mercy to peek out from behind a wall, fly to a dead teammate and press Q with impunity.
You can even ult halfway there.
They really need to make it counterable, the rez going off right at the start of the animation is way too good for mercy, and is impossible to stop on reaction. The only way to stop a mercy from Rezzing is to kill her before her team.
>>344565275
>implying you need to be korean to hold the Jump button to Wall Ride and tap A and D fast to strafe back and forth
Yeah just stick with mercy, healslut. Just remember to press Q and you're fine. :)
At least until a Lucio player kills you and baits the enemy team away from the objective.
>>344551841maybe they're already in Valhalla
>>344565030
In a game where points are captured in like 15 seconds and it takes 30+ seconds to walk back to them from spawn after waiting to respawn, yeah.
Especially when it's a full rez in less than half a second for multiple people without even needing line of sight, on a character with a mobility skill that lets them fly faster than most anyone else can move directly to teammates or dead bodies from across the map.
>>344553363
>>the resurrect can now hit a maximum of 3 people
Hey, how about we make that everybody's ult can kill/affect only 3 people? Brilliant!
>>344566191
MIND BLOWN
>Overwatch is not about Overwatch organization
>it's an endless fight between dead heroes over and over
>MOTHERFUCKING VALHALLA
they are dead man, DEAD
>>344565739
Lmao that never happens kid.
>>344567095
Yeah it does. you don't know how many retards follow Lucio players around because they prioritize healers.
>>344566887
Does that mean what's left of Pharah's corporeal is an amputee?
>>344569209
corporeal form*
>>344545938
Delete your racist image first and we can talk.
Is the Overwatch community the whiniest kind of shitters?
I enjoy the game but everyone is just like "WAAAH nerf this because I can't use my main otherwise"
>>344569209Whoever defeated her kept her limbs from going into the after life and is using them
I enjoy playing both Mercy and Lucio, but I prefer Mercy a lot more.
I have won no less than a dozen King's Row matches defending on point A by just sitting inside, waiting for them to ult bomb my whole team, then popping out and hitting Q.
There is almost no way to stop it and it works every time.
Also Valkyrie skins are ugly. Go for the gold skin or Celestial.
Is it worth playing ranked yet
>People actively wanting to nerf Mercy in her current state while Lucio exists as he does now
Nah...
>>344573353
Lucio is worse than Mercy in most situations.
>>344573484
Said no one ever
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344574354
Said everyone always.
>>344573484
Mercy is worse than Lucio in most situations.
>>344554817
Reaper need to be in right place in right time hoping that enemies are idiots and that they won't kill/stun him instantly
Mercy just have to press shift and Q
and thats coming from a mercy player.
You already see double Lucio alot. She'll never be viable in control point maps (at a high level) since she can't heal herself, unlike Lucio. She's a breathe away from being obsolete in general. I'd like to see Mercy reworked, and Lucio. Mercy is fun to heal with but her ult isn't. Lucio's is boring to heal with but his ult feels great.
>>344545938
Mercy is perfectly balanced leave her alone
if you boost her healing then you make anyone who is being healed by her completely immortal
if you boost her damage boost output you make for some serious bullshit one hit KO's.
If you nerf her rez then you have to compensate some how, and honestly the only people who are fucked over by her rez are people who can't even target mercy.
>>344561923
lucio is boring as shit
zenyatta and mercy are most fun.
>>344574647
Resurrect > Dank Beats
Stop playing with shitters who don't prioritize her as a target. If she can survive a fight or make it to the frontline on her own she deserves to use her ult.
>>344546546
You did not outplay the enemy team if you didn't kill the Mercy first, they outplayed you.
Her resurrect ult is meant to punish those who have shitty flankers who don't kill the support. Just like symettras teleporter fucks over anyone who doesn't find it and kill it. It's a good ult to keep people on the point just like all the other supports do, and considering the fact that she can't kill anything her ult is what saves her from being garbage since it's the best support ult. Symettras and mercy are the best defense supports and then Lucio is best for offense. Zenyatta is good for more dps but he can't support on his own just like symmetra cant.
My problem with Lucio is that while he brings a lot of utility to the table and is more self sufficient when the enemy team puts on a lot of pressure, such as when you're defending, his healing just can't cut it, Mercy does a better job at keeping people alive, maybe not everyone, but at least some people alive during big pushes. That's one of the biggest reasons why I prefer Mercy, that and she works well with a pocket.
>>344552829
6-10 seconds of them concentrating fire on you to take down the shield is a pretty big deal though.
>>344575216
Right, Lucio can't stop an Ult wombo combo but a Mercy can completely undo it after it happens.
>>344575990
Not necessarily just ults, just lot of pressure in general. Lucio heals more than Mercy generally, but his healing at critical times isn't as strong as Mercy, Mercy is better at keeping people alive.
>>344571591
I prefer Cobalt
Hurr just target the Mercy.
I did she died at the start of the team battle and in the time it took for her to res and get back was the perfect time to fucking Res everyone through the fucking ground.
>>344576329
Cobalt is just ok. Really the only bad ones are the Valkyrie ones and Imp.
>>344576968
I hate that shit.
>>344577576
I can hear the Bastion player saying "oh fuck" as he realizes how screwed he is.
>>344545938
Keep her ult charge the same but make her the only character whose charge resets upon death.
>Lmao dude she's like the medic
>With one of the best movement options in the game with her flight
>And the medic never lost uber upon death
>And could bring people back to life
>>344552872
>The point is to have these two characters on both teams at all times
Kill yourself
I just go after her with my hot monkey dick all the time. She doesn't get to do much when I'm around.
>>344577683
That would be a good idea actually. It would reward good positioning and protecting the Mercy at any cost.
>>344574707
>she cant heal herself
>heals to full in a second by herself
What
>>344577861
And give Mercy players another reason to complain and to try to make people ride her dick?
No thanks.
>lucios ult is worse, has windup time
>mercys ult is instant
xD
>>344577683
>And if the Medic had another, faster healer who healed everyone at once near him to stack with the Medic's automatic health regeneration
Lucio and Mercy control this entire game.
Just make it so if she dies before she says the full phrase, she doesn't get a rez off.
>tfw you hook a mercy before she even raises her hand and says Helden but she still gets the rez off
dumb af desu senpai smdh
She's fine you raging shitter
>>344548075
i don't get it
>>344578836
What's not to get?
>>344548075
>>344578969
>mercy acting smug like a cunt
>teammates give her the middlefinger and abandon her
>she gets turbofucked by two roadhogs
feels good man
>>344579117
I'm allowed to be smug when I'm the reason the team wins.
>>344545938
>you wipe the entire enemy team
>WOOPS you didn't find the mercy sitting in their spawn around a corner! Now you lose
>full team rez
>it's recharged before you can even do another execute
>you have to kill the mercy who is hiding, then their entire team and then cap it before she respawns and rezzes everyone
It's just a fucking dull play pattern that makes makes maps like Temple of Anubis even more shit.
There needs to be a 1 second cast time on the rez so it isn't an instant I win button.
>>344545938
post potgs
>>344579307
What the shit?
>>344579283
>>WOOPS you didn't find the mercy
Yes, if you don't take out the mercy you get punished. It's part of the sequencing of high level meta play
>>344548075
>>344578969
>>344579223
>healers thinking they're the reason the team wins
Healers are ONLY needed when their team is filled with incompetent shits that don't know where health packs spawn.
>>344548089
>>344575085
>kill mercy first
>kill everyone else
>she walks out of spawn and revives everyone
AYY LMAO
>>344579307
That was fucking more lackluster than an afk Torb POTG. Terrible.
>>344579358
It happens sometimes, the potg calculation is still pretty strange
>>344545938
Remove the immunity players have when they're being revived.
Shooting the yellow hero shilloutes enough will kill them again.
Thats what I would do anyway.
>>344578173
I NEED THE SOURCE BB
>>344545938
>>344546194
I'll fix this shit.
First, it needs not to fill heroes with full health automatically.
I would suggest a pool of 500maybe 1000 hprestored per use. Say if you revive 5 people, each gets 100or 200hp. Revive 2 people, each gets 250or 500hp.
Also, this HP pool should be fluid. Say, using the 500 hp pool, if you double rez say a Reinhardt and a Zen (150hp), it would give Zen 150 hp and Rein 350 hp.
Solo/double rezing would be encouraged too, so the team's Mercy doesn't hold her ult for the "perfect moment POTG."
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tightWE HAVE TWO HUNDRED COUCHES WHERE YOU CAN
>>344579576
>that aiming
cringe, watching non-mains try to play her is awful
Here's how you fix Mercy. It's quite simple really.
Make her ult carry five charges maximum, one for each teammate. And then she uses each charge to revive a hero she's looking at one at a time within a certain range like how Symmetra gives people shields.
Each 25% charge of her ult is one revive.
So how it would work in a teamfight is that you'll be reviving people left and right still but you can't just automatically take away someone that just ulted your entire team's progress in the blink of an eye.
>>344580321
I meant 20%
>>344580317
i think he was trying to avoid the reaper. no point in 1v1 him
>>344580203
>Solo/double rezing would be encouraged too, so the team's Mercy doesn't hold her ult for the "perfect moment POTG."
No, don't simplify it for shitters. The decision-making of how many to res keeps Mercy play more complex and game-changing, and puts more risk and responsibility in the hands of the player
>>344580507
Reaper is easily killable as mercy.
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344550208
More like why is a Swiss character's costume something from Norse mythology
>>344580609
wait. are you trying to trick me?
>>344580835
>Why does an australian have a scarecrow outfit
>Why does a japanese cyborg have a sandnig outfit
>Why does a robot monk have an eygptian god outfit
half the skins don't make any sense
>>344580910
chinese person looks like an eskimo
>MFW Genji runs deep behind enemy lines and screams for healing
>>344545938
It's only "overpowered" because the average player is a fucking idiot and never targets Mercy first when jumping into the fight.
She's always my first target when I jump in on attack, so she can't use her Ult.
Too many times I've seen the team jump in and completely ignore her in favour of seemingly more threatening targets, only to have the entire team ressed infront of them.
I suppose you could add it so it can be interupted, given it's an instacast and still works even if you die immediately after pushing the button.
>>344581117
>Be Mercy
>Pushing the objective with most of my team, healing and damage buffing
>Widowmaker camped on a roof far behind us is spamming "I need healing!"
>She won't even reveal herself so I can't target her to glide up
>>344580321
If you think the revive every 20% is too strong we could instead make it so that once she gets 100% charge, she needs to use all five of her revives before having to get back to 100% charge to be able to revive again.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight.
Mercy mains have become almost as bad as Genji mains.
Most refuse to switch to Lucio when they keep getting targeted down and spend most of their time whining in chat.
>>344547376
>kill her first
retard spotted
So why doesn't Mercy say: "Live, live, live!" after she revives people that died from a Reaper ult?
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight.
>>344581317
>you will never get bowl cut tips from sammy
>>344581181
>target Mercy
>she dies
>she respawns later
>after a long teamfight, you see that suicidal bitch gliding
>you successfully killed her dmc dante style by headshotting her in the air with a bullet propelled with your fucking kick
>oops, too bad she pressed q and all her teammates are revived
>>344581792
Thats shite timing. Most maps, she moves so slow without people to glide to that she'd only be able to revive people who'd died very recently.
>>344581732
>you'll never be invited to the bowl cut cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_J89LJSvL8
>>344545938
I remember blizzard mentioning nerfing her
only 3 revs per use
>>344582581
>only 3 revs per use
That's stupid
Why would anyone use Mercy over Lucio then?
>Mercy's ultimate now resurrects a maximum of 3 people
>For each person resurrected, her ultimate charge amount decreases by 33.3 (repeating of course) percent
>If she resurrects one person, she will retain 66% ultimate charge
>If she resurrects two people, she will retain 33% ultimate charge
>If she resurrects three people, she will start over at 0%
>Mercy's ultimate charge rate decreased by 50%
>Mercy is now a much more interesting battle medic who makes decisions on resurrecting key members of the team instead of hiding while 5 people die
Fixed.
>>344549776
Sleep tight reap right
>>344549776
Sleep tight, reap tight.
>>344582983
>teamwipe
>mercy comes in to ressurect
>game randomly chooses 3 people
>none of them are your tanks
Shit idea. Go back to the fucking drawing board kiddo.
>Ult goes through walls, objects, large aoe
>Animation is completely separate to time it takes effect
>Completely restores to full, gives players 1.3 seconds on invincibility so they're not immediately killed
>All on the fastest charging ult in the game
>On a character with a small hitbox and easy escapes
>Luicio plays a sounds and needs to touch the ground giving counterplay, does not go through walls, can be waited out if needed
>Zen is rendered unable to attack, can be knocked around, AoE is clearly visible and not that big
Mercyfags are literally delusional if they don't think they're completely broken. You probably think Roadhog is fine if you think Mercy is okay.
I've been stuck around 59-61. When the teammates are decent I feel like my contribution takes us over the top, but then I get strings of Hanzo mains and teammates that just seem to die left and right regardless of my efforts. Is this my limit, or should I try learning harder carries like Genji?
>>344579516
>playing against people SO BAD that there's no need to heal
Even Lucio is obsolete at this point because he just can't heal fast enough and often enough to undo the damage of a competent team.
>>344553879
Wanna know how I know you've never bothered playing Mercy? Because you have to be right up the ass of a dead teammate in order to get the revive prompt. Line of sight isn't even good enough.
>>344581998
She can glide to the souls of dead people.
>>344545938
It only needs two nerfs honestly.
1) Flight towards corpses either needs a slowed rate, or a reduced range in order to activate it
2) No ulting through fucking walls
There. Fixed Mercy. If she becomes unplayed in comp, give her increases to her healing rate (such as giving a temporary health overcharge when healing someone past full that dissipates over time) or damage boost.
>>344581998
Horse shit nigga, she can glide to any yellow flame left by a dead character.
>>344581998
I've killed Mercy so fast I didn't even get to hear the voiceover or see her animation start. Peeps still got revived.
how about when mercy's utl hits 100% the first time its starts to degrade after 2 - 3 seconds to where she has to health/damage boost to keep it at 100 so she cant just sit behind a wall after getting full charge
>>344584267
The AOE ignores terrain.
>>344545938
I know you need to kill her first but people never seen to acknowledge that hse's behind 5 teammates all shooting at you, it's harder that you're making it out to seem
How to fix Mercy: Give Q a short cast time, like a quarter of a second; if you kill her while she's casting the rez is aborted.
>>344584639
La-dee-fucking-dah. The radius is so puny that the only time you're ever going to see Mercy res an entire team is if your team is either so bad that it won't make a difference either way or if Reaper dropped in and pressed Q. Whether or not it should ignore terrain is a fair topic for debate, but whining that an ult can counter an ult is just plain dumb.
>>344545938
It's really not an argument. Team comps in comp are pretty rigid, but a Mercy is the only mandatory member of a team because if you don't have a Mercy but the enemy does, you lose.
>>344549178
this, guys. seriously.
Needing to kill the Mercy is why I still play McCree; a high noon can 1-shot her if nothing else.
>>344549178
Name a single ult that "effortlessly" wipes teams.
Most of the time it requires combined ults to wipe 4-5, and even then usually one of the ults in the combination can still be countered and requires timing on both player's part.
>Be any kind of tank
>Waiting for lucio to heal me from 50 hp
>1 hp at a time
>he gets his amp it up back and heals like 2 hp for 3 seconds
>Takes a while to get his ult
>Mercy heals whoever's actually taking damage really fast
>If there's a single tank on the team, she can spam her ult
>Can fuck off out of danger easily with l-shift
Lucio seems like a healer for people without the attention span to notice their teams' silhouettes and bring the healing where it needs to be.
>>344585474
Reaper.
>>344585543
You have to walk in the middle on them and you can get stunned/killed out of it.
>>344581360
I find Luciomains still the most obnoxious. They shitposted a lot about how he was 'the better healer' during beta and launch but now that Mercy is being considered more powerful in competitive they switched to whining that she's "OP".
As if Lucio isn't broken himself. Nerf him first and buff Zenyatta then we can start looking at Mercy nerfs.
>>344585518
>Any KOTH map where your whole team is only moving to one point and staying there
>Pick Lucio
>A map where you need to constantly worry about flanking and be adaptable to different scenarios
>Pick Mercy
Alternatively you just have a Mercy and a back up Zenyatta/Lucio because the resurrection ult is way too OP but it never hurts to have a little more healing/decent DPS.
>>344585518
Also people neglect the value of damage boost. Lucio can't do that for a bastion, junkrat, or pharah.
>>344584149
>he just can't heal fast enough and often enough
Nor should he be able to.
Lucio has a really strong movement speed aura, can wallride, and is OP as fuck on most KOTH maps. He doesn't need a strong heal on top of it.
>>344585518
Lucio needs more coordination from his team to work properly. If you're up against skilled players, and have Lucio without Mercy on your team, you'd better hope you're going hyper offensive.
>>344584774
You watch Surefour or Poke play? They regularly kill Mercys in the backline with Tracer/Genji.
>>344585543
>Can be interrupted by roadhog hook, McCree flashbang
>Zarya bubbles can protect herself and another target, supercharging herself to kill you extremely quickly
>Slow moving so a Widow/Hanzo/Soldier can drop you extremely quickly in the face
>Rein shield or charge
>Mei Wall can elevate him above everyone, or block him from hitting targets from a wide angle
>Pharah can drop two rockets or E him away
>Genji can reflect doing 3/4 of his HP pool
>Dva can matrix it out for a fairly wide angle
Yeah, no. Not at all effortless. It also would require the team to be rather clumped together to "effortlessly" kill more than 2-3 at a time.
>>344579558
>our mercy dies immediately to the only good player on their team
>focus fire that player and then hold on without a healer as long as possible
>we succeed because the enemy team is pretty bad except for that one guy
>mercy says on voice chat when she spawned and our flanker falls back to give mercy a teammate to fly to in order to arrive faster
>start pushing more aggressively since we know mercy is nearly here
>get wiped all in the same location
>mercy revives
"Mercy OP"
"Revive is bullshit"
"GG blizz unbalanced game"
Maybe you should kill the enemy team faster
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344585838
No, you don't have Zenyatta ever for anything
Zenyatta is shit
>>344549776
sleep tight, reap tight
>>344550208
Valkyries are "choosers of the slain". Their power is literally to decide who lives and who dies in a battle. It makes perfect sense for a Valkyrie to have the power to invalidate deaths on the battlefield. Valkyrie Mercy chooses the enemy team to be slain and her team to live.
Valkyrja, from which Valkyrie comes, literally means "chooser of the slain"
TLDR you're retarded and blizz knows norse mythology better than you do
>>344574880
dank feets> dank beats
>>344586474
He's a fantastic tank melter. The confusion of roadhog players that die while chugging, or reinhardts that think they're invincible while charging in with their pocket mercy is hilarious.
He's pretty good for taking out long range annoying fuckcunts like pharah and widowmaker too.
>Lucio STILL isn't a cute girl
Blizzard isn't even trying
>>344546506
This game hasn't been out very long and I love how fucking salty people are about it already.
>>344585671
>>344586065
Not that guy but "can" isn't the same as "will without a doubt". Stop being giant gay babies.
>>344586474
>discord orb tanks and melt whoever the fuck you please with spammable 135 damage headshots
>apply passive healing buffs and passive HP debuffs to aid your allies in staying alive and killing quickly
>100 HP/s ulti that allows any team to coordinate and push a point for 8 seconds that only gets countered by extreme burst (Junkrat/D.Va ulti)
Zenyatta isn't a great support, which is why you run him with a Mercy. The combined healing and damage factors make the two of you maximum priority targets, and your team thus operates around protecting you. With you and Mercy protected, you're free to heal your team and PLINK PLINK PLINK the enemies all day long.
Zenyatta is only shit if both you and your team are shit.
>>344586936
Genderbent weekly brawl fucking when?
>>344586918
wait a lazy as fuck """"""""comic""""""""
>>344586474
Zenyatta is fantastic DPS but it's hard to fit him on a team. He's better on attack, but it helps a lot if you have Torbjorn or Symmetra providing additional bulk to his health bar, even though those heroes are better suited for defense. He's complimented by another healer, but Mercy's rez is too powerful to give up, while Lucio needs higher single target healing than Zen can provide.
Basically Zen + Lucio or Zen + Mercy is amazing at intermediate levels but not any higher.
>main Zenyatta cos the other healers are boring as fuck
>do everything short of sucking Blizzard's dick most matches, from sniping tanks, discording main threats, ult-cancelling with transcendence etc.
>still only got one POTG in my experience so far while Mercy cunts get them by the bucketload for doing fuck all
>>344587292
You should start drawing comics.
>>344547376
>hey are weak and die quickly
>Lucio
>die quickly
kek m8.
>>344586641
>TLDR you're retarded and blizz knows norse mythology better than you do
BTFO
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344587292
You're a lazy comic.
>>344587652
holy shit I cant stop laughing.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>reaper thinks he can do anything
>>344587232
>Here's a list of like half of the abilities most of which aren't even ultimates that can completely halt an ultimate from Reaper in its tracks without losing a single player
>Eff-ff-effortless doesn't mean "will without a doubt!"
Nice goalposts. Wait, where the fuck did they go?
>>344545938
>Actually wanting a healer with an ult for the sole purpose of cancelling other ults nerfed.
YOU knew there was a Mercy the moment the game started so stop crying that your poorly timed ult was cancelled.
Itt are the same shit posters that laugh at Torb's console nerfs.
While we're bitching, why is Tracer's ult so weak? The only characters slow enough to consistently stick (which is to say, this ult actually requires aim unlike literally all the rest of them in the game) have a high enough health pool to tank it.
>>344589620
>playing Zen
>enemy Tracer is pretty fucking agressive
>she catches me travelling solo and sticks her ult on me
>I Transcend just in time
>explosion kills her
Fix for Mercy Ult
>Charges at a reasoable pace, increasing when healing allies
>Revives every teammate within an area
>Revives every teammate with 100% health
>Reviving takes ~2 seconds allowing enemies to re-position
>Faggots are rendered mad as they realize that support is useful
>>344545938
>can literally revive her team from INSIDE THE SPAWN in Anubis and Gibraltar at least
>even if you kill her JUST as she uses it, it still goes off, she doesn't even have to callout
>doesn't even have to SEE the corpses to revive people
>an ult that game-changing charges at the speed of light, most likely the fastest charging ult in the entire game
But it's fine, she's perfectly balanced, no issues whatsoever thank you so much Blizzard for this excellent game when are you going to give me my daily glass of cummies?
Sounds like you should get a mercy.
>>344554304
>solo queue
>playing with friends not an option
Tell me more about how you are having a bad experience with Overwatch, and it's blizzards fault, not you and your team of Rando Calrissians, Marlon Randos, Rando Coutures, Rando Savages, and Rando Ortons.
>resurrect is op
>all competitive does double lucio
>>344545938
>more chances to kill your enemies
>this is a bad thing
>>344578969
>bOBS BURGERS JOKE
Mercy is cute. CUTE!
ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING AUTISTIC? HOLY FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU SHILLS ACTUALLY DEFENDING MERCY ULT?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, SHE LITERALLY CHARGES HER ULT IN 30 SECONDS, HAVE YOU EVER KILLED MERCY PUSH TRY TO CAP POINT KILL 5 OF THEIR GUYS THEN MERCY FLIES OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE TO REVIVE ALL OF THEM AND THATS BALANCED?
SHE ULT IS A LITERAL GAME CHANGING ULT, WHY DOES IT CHARGE AS FAST AS TRACER ULT? IT LITERALLY MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE, ALSO WHY IS SHE ALLOWED TO SPAM HER STUPID ASS FUCKING SHIFT.
MERCY IS NOT FUCKING BALANCED, "B-B-B-BUT LUCIO IS SEEN WAY MORE!!!!!" LUCIO IS ONLY PLAYED ON KOTH MAPS OR WITH ANOTHER MERCY.
FUCK YOU STUPID ASS SHILLS DO YOU HONESTLY THINK MERCY REVIVING HER ENTIRE TEAM EVERY 30 SECONDS IS BALANCED? WHAT A FUCKING JOKE YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED.
HOW TO NERF HER:
1. MAKE IT SO THAT SHE CANT FUCKING RES PEOPLE WHEN THEY DIED 9 SECONDS AGO
2. OR MAKE HER RES A HUGE ASS COOLDOWN LIKE ZARYA ULT
>>344588431
I LOVE taking out Mercy/Pharah fags who think they're untouchable
-76
-Roadhog
-Hanzo
-Widow
Even Mei
Remember kids, keep fucking up that Mercy until shes gets so mad and switches
>>344588431
thats why S76 is for
Years of team fortress 2 has taught me to always kill the medic first.
If you kill the entire enemy team and leave the mercy for last it's your own damn fault.
>>344545938
Ults are overpowered
>>344592453
git gud.
>>344592643
I drop in as Genji. Right+click, Melee cancel, dash and then turn around and finish the job. I'm out of there before the enemy team realizes what happened.
>>344592932
goddamn it, Genji never stops being fun
>>344592453
If you actually think Mercy is overpowered because of only her ult, you're definitely a shitter.
Matter of fact, if you think she outclasses Lucio in almost any circumstance you're a shitter.
I mean, Lucio's ult provides more HP than a Mercy rez does on at 300 HP or below. And he's capable of dealing a healthy 5-8k damage most matches.
>>344589620
Because tracer is broken enough without having a good ult on top of it.
Just get rid of her flying to teammates, even dead ones.
Force Mercy to require good manual positioning.
>>344587392
>playing other healers is boring
>play zenyatta
>do everything except heal
>wonder why team hates me.
>>344593441
>Picks Winston
>Unzips M1
heh ...
You can also pick Torbjorn, Symmetra, Zarya or Mei if you want.
>>344593581
>Just get rid of her bread and butter
The only reason she is viable at ALL is her shift and passive. God damn. Mercy is not that good.
>>344558215
What the fuck happened here.
>>344592779
How does 76 deal with a Pharah that is either being constantly healed or damage buffed. Keep in mind the Pharah can actually aim and doesn't fly into the open.
>>344550685
Shit nigga I should start doing this. Not like I'm going to contribute a whole fucking lot as Symmetra.
>>344592453
Where were faggots like you eight years ago? Oh yeah, probably a crib.
OMG ARE U ACTUALLY DEFENDING UBERCHARGE LMAO OK YEAH 10 SECONDS OF INVINCIBILITY THAT'S REAL BALANCED! WE WERE FINALLY ABOUT TO PUSH INTO THE POINT BUT HE USED HIS ABILITY TO LITERALLY CHANGE THE GAME?!?!
>>344554503
>not suppose to be this grand savior of every fucking battle
>She has an angel motif
yes anon. yes it is.
it's working as intended. don't like it? leave.
>>344593918
Except Ubercharges can be countered before it goes off and during its use.
You literally cannot stop Mercy from reviving people once she hits Q. It cannot be done. This is objectively true.
>>344592871
>>344593918
>>344593361
>reviving your entire team every 30 seconds is perfectly ok! get good scrub lol!!!!!
>>344593893
Her teleporter is basically her whole point, that and the marginal damage mitigation and Rein countering.
>>344593807
what kinda scrub are you
shoot the healer first duh
they get flattened so quickly with 76's ult too
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344549776
sleep tight reepy tight
>>344594102
Your counter is to shoot the dudes until they die. And ubercharges can be countered before use in the exact same way revives can: shoot at her until she dies.
Become proficient.
>>344553859
>Splatoon Miiverse
Are you fucking kidding me? That joke is old as balls. It got a resurgence due to a tweet from someone on /sp/ and then it's been circulating since then. This comic strip is stupid. Worthless fucking Mercy player should've switched to Lucio if the team didn't give a shit about protecting her.
>>344594118
>Too stupid to kill Mercy
You should get good.
Nobody above 50 MMR picks Mercy in good conscience. She's a defense hero at best.
>>344594259
Wait, killing Mercy depletes her ultimate charge?
Since when was this the case? Are you trying to ruse me anon?
And I demand that you list all the ways to stop her ultimate when she presses Q. Go ahead. There is no time limit on this.
Just give me a list of the things I can do to stop her revive when she presses Q.
>>344546248
She runs back flies in and pops her ult. even if you kill her 0.1 second after she pressed the button, it's already too late. That thing should have a fucking 0.5s cast time or something.
>>344594441
The same way you stop every other non-Junkrat/Genji/Tracer ult in the game:you don't.
>>344594441
Go back to school and learn to read.
>>344554304
>trying to run from enemy objective for a health pack
>Winston lands directly on me and kills me
Immediately thought of this image.
>>344546248
>Just kill her first, retard.
She can LITERALLY hide behind a wall and rez through it, OR literally fly to a corpse, press the button in the air, and revive her team and then die (she's invulnerable during the start of the rez animation)
Pro players, the people who are literally physically better than you will ever ever be, do this shit and entire matches revolve around Mercy ults
>>344545938
It is. It needs a charge nerf badly.
>>344594593
>And ubercharges can be countered before use in the exact same way revives can: shoot at her until she dies.
Oh I understand now. You were just confused anon.
Let me explain for you.
Killing the medic before deploying the Ubercharge is a counter because it depletes his charge. He then has to spend an amount of time building it back up before he can try again.
Killing Mercy does not deplete her ultimate.
Glad I could clear that up for you.
This whole game is broken. Go spend your time on something that at least is well designed.
>>344593647
>Zarya
>versus tracer
Confirmed for being both a shit tracer and Zarya
>>344593759
Justice rained from above.
ITT, one retard that got goofed on by mercy can't handle the fact he got goofed on.
Sucks those mercy you fought where better than you bro.
I bet you cried about Mccree too.
>>344594428
>mercy first
>teamfight takes too long
>she walks back lives for longer than a second presses q and the whole team gets rezed
>fair and balanced
no anon you're the low mmr shitter
>>344594551
This is actually not true, she has a short time after pressing q where killing her will cancel the ult.
>>344581117
>Get behind enemy lines as genji
>the Mercy fucking follows me
>she dies
A lot of Mercys do that, I just do not understand why. I'm not a tank, I cannot protect them.
>>344545938
teammates should revive with 50% health
>>344581181
>zarya
>reindhart
>being able to kill her with all that protection
The thing is, the only way to get to her is often to chew through her team. At which point getting to her is moot because she just fucking rezzed all of them.
>>344595001
Glad you just said mccree wasnt completely broken. Fucking retard.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344595086
lol
udungolfd
>>344591930
>Mercy will never give you a prostate exam
>she'll never forcefully finger your asshole and tell you "Relax, I'm a doctor." until you cum
>she'll never give you a clean bill of health but ask you to come check in every once in a while for a reevaluation
Life truly is suffering.
>>344594861
When you link my post, and then quote someone elses, it makes me really not want to read the rest of your post.
>Killing the medic
I'm not fucking talking about TF2.
>Killing Mercy does not deplete her ultimate.
I'm aware of this. It does stop her from USING it though.
>Glad I could clear that up for you.
You have cleared up nothing, you fuckwit.
>You will never be Mercy
>>344595924
>stops her from using it
Uh....>>344579576
>>344589620
>Tracer throws her ult on me
>go Wraith Mode and jiggle around spookily
>she blows the fuck up because the idiot didn't bother to use Recall or Dash away
Lovely.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344596084
>Uh...
Did I fucking stutter?
Do you know how the fucking internet works?
>What is ping
Fuck off.
>>344595924
>I'm aware of this. It does stop her from USING it though.
No it doesn't. I've sacked plenty of Mercy's in the middle of the animation. Even as she's saying her HATING SANDWICH or whatever the fuck. The res still happens when what *should* happen is that Mercy should get stuffed and have her Ultimate reset to 50-70%.
Same thing happens with Reaper. If he can't get a full revolution in or at least the first "DIE!" out then you get some Ultimate Charge refunded upon death.
>>344545938
It needs a cast time.
Mercy flying out of the spawn and reviving everyone is complete garbage.
>>344596161
>shitter tracer blows herself up
>shitter reaperfag thinks he did gud while doing precisely dick
typical reaper
>>344596449
cute
>>344596503
I literally pressed a button to not die. Don't recall asking for laurels.
>>344596419
I'm so fucking sad for you that you can't kill a Mercy until after she pops her res, and then you get mad about it.
PROTIP: If there is a Mercy within resurrect/healing range, you need to fucking. KILL. IT.
>>344596493
Kill her before she gets to them! xD
>>344596161
Zarya is exactly the same, and a smart Reinhardt will raise his shield to keep anyone else from getting hurt in the blast, and Roadhog will just heal it off immediately, and D.va will just be forced from her mech. And Winston drops his shield to avoid anyone else being hit.
It's just so strange to me that Tracer's ult is so unequivocally shit. You have Hanzo who can clear an entire straight line across the map, you have Reaper who can press Q to kill an entire group without aiming, you have soldier 69 who straight up gets an aimbot... and then you have Tracer who can maybe possibly kill a player with under 250 HP as long as you timed its lack of momentum and terrible drop-off properly.
>>344545938
I played against a Mercy today. I killed her teammates as soon as she ulted, it's not hard sometimes.
You are just worse than me, which I thought wasn't hard to do.
>>344596764
Oh I'm sorry, did you have another point to make?
Did you make that outfit yourself? Pretty fucking weird.
>>344579358
google and iqdb has nothing on the image. Got the source?
>>344596726
>until after
Never said I had difficulty doing it. I was explaining that I've killed the bitch in the middle of her casting it and she still gets it off. People in the topic are saying that it's bullshit and that her Ult should have a cast time or whatever other balance suggestions are being thrown around. I also target Mercy. I make sure to bully Mercy either from the sky, by being a sneaky faggot or through brute force.
>>344596760
She has a radius so shes got that going for her. It's 400 on contact as well as 400 in the radius. I've scored team kills by either throwing into a cluster of enemies or attaching it to one and then having that player panic back away into his teammates. It works. She has the speed to place herself somewhere to set it up. After that it comes down to general accuracy. It works for her.
Is there a graphic or something that shows all the characters' counters?
>>344597109
http://rule34-data-006.paheal.net/_images/54e486d29d59cff20741034c63774a9b/1904048%20-%20Mercy%20Overlook%20atatatamu.jpg
>>344597260
Yeah but it's shit. Go here instead. http://www.furiouspaul.com/overwatch/
>>344595924
Next time put on a trip so I can tell all these anonymous from each other I guess.
Or maybe you could consider not jumping into the middle of a conversation when you don't know or care what the others are talking about.
Especially when you have fucking nothing to add or discuss in the first fucking place.
I'll be around for a while longer to grant some more (You)s. Don't forgot that trip, I don't want to waste my (You)s on any random cunt.
I can't aim to save my life against anyone who isn't a tank. What the hell do I do?
Pic for attention
>>344597480
practice
also change crosshairs to green dot
>>344595028
>62 mmr
>>344597480
Adjust your sensitivity and shoot without zigzagging. Sometimes a straight line is all you need. You may want to adjust your crosshairs to something that's more comfortable for you. Nearly every fucking hero I use I change the color and type of crosshair I use. Experiment.
>>344596726
>Ignore Mercy's entire team in front of her
>Get into dangerous positioning so you can kill her
>Her team murders you instantly
The problem with Mercy is that a good one doesn't even have to be visible or in danger to charge her stupidly fast ult. She just has to hide until her team dies and then lel Q because it's fucking instant so unless anyone can kill her in the split second it takes her to dash to the bodies from literally anywhere, enjoy fighting her entire team again with no cds.
The whole 'kill the healer first!' only works if the healer is a complete retard who doesn't know how to play.
>>344597480
Play Lucio.
Is always credit to team, doesn't require babysitting like Mercy, hitting stuff is nice but not required.
>>344597176
>I've killed the bitch in the middle of her casting it and she still gets it off
>killing mercy doesn't stop her using her ult
The casting time is literally one second.
If Mercy is alive, you can reasonably expect her to be able to res at any moment.
If Mercy is dead, no matter how fucking short the cast time is, she can't res dick.
So, once again, in conclusion:
To stop Mercy using her Resurrect, she needs to be DEAD.
Not under attack, not ALMOST dead, but really seriously fucking DEAD.
>>344587652
>not posting the video
the laughing makes it so much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMJ-s4T16M
>>344597978
There is no cast time.
If she presses Q, they're rezzed. Doesn't matter if she gets instantly killed. If she uses the ability, there is no way to stop it.
There's an animation for it, but she doesn't have to do it for the ult to work.
>>344597407
>trip
nah
>maybe you could consider
maybe you should consider not being so fucking WRONG
and not being so butthurt about it
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344597931
>it's hard to do the right thing!
Q FUCKING Q
>>344597978
Got it. I'll redouble my efforts and stop being shit.
I need help /v/. I'm gitting gud with Reaper. Too good. I don't want to keep picking this edgelord fuck but I always end up carrying the team and keeping the objective clear with him
Just this last match I ended the OT by phasing through rein's ult and opening up my own in to everybody gathered up behind him.
How do I avoid being good with shit characters?
>>344598125
that's what I mean. If she's alive, she can res with no warning.
the casting time is documented as "1 second"
>>344598137
I'm not wrong ya skunt.
This is entertaining though.
You literally have no clue what I was talking about in the first place.
One (You) has been deposited as requested.
>>344598258
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I will say that (and I mean no offense by this), if Mercy is carrying the enemy, you're likely playing at a lower MMR.
This means there'll be a little less communication. Pick up a flanker, Reaper is a good Mercy killer, and shoot her in the face as much as possible.
Lucio is also capable of killing her, rushing in with speed amp and M1 (hopefully to the face), melee and M2.
>>344598258
>Got it. I'll redouble my efforts and stop being shit.
You are officially the most reasonable person in this thread.
>>344598254
It's not about it being hard, you stupid motherfucker.
It's about it being a lose/lose situation if the Mercy is halfway competent. The cancer Mercies that win games by themselves are the ones who just gtfo as soon as trades start, then revive the entire team. They are literally not there for you to kill.
>>344545938
Bringing my shit team back to life won't make them stop standing in front of the bastion
>>344598365
Reaper isn't shit, he's just countered by microphones and Winston. In my experience he's been one of the more reliable flankers. Much higher DPS than Genji and not a gaylord situational pick.
>>344598403
you strawmanned some other dude and I called you out, you thought I was him, and I got mad for being confused with some /v/ poster
10/10 would waste work time again
>skunt
im taking that
>>344598530
>They are literally not there for you to kill.
Do they noclip out of the map?
Sounds like it's just too hard for you mate.
Leave this to a professional.
>>344545938
Rarely ever had much issue before, Honestly I find, even if most of a team get's rezzed, there's a good reason they all got slaughtered in the first place, you'll kill them again easily enough.
One of my best PotGs was thanks to an enemy Mercy rez
>playing Junkrat
>defending Hollywood
>our Zarya uses her Ult on 3 of the enemy team
>I kill all of them
>Mercy rezzes them once Zarya's Ult is over
>I use my Ult as the 3 of them try to split up and run away
>easiest 6 kill streak I've ever had
Mercy ult will never be nerfed, despite being the single most retarded thing in the entire game by far.
>Super fast charge
>No cast time
>Unstoppable
>Can revive whole team
>Always revives at full health
>Doesn't require line of sight
>Animation is miniscule
>People resurrected get 1.5 seconds of invulnerability to move around
But it won't ever get nerfed because Mercy players are fucking garbage and will bitch and moan if their fucking waifu starts actually taking thought and skill to play.
>>344598258
I am the guy you're replying to, and >>344598465
is on the money.
>>344595072
Everytime I kill her 0,1 second after her ult, just when she begins to turn gold and see that it still worked, I remember these fucking post on /v/
Everytime it happens I'd chop my Dick just to be able to punch your faggot faces
>>344582581
>team cycles Mercys after she's "used up"
good fix.
>>344598984
>Lower MMR = Mercy carrying
Except it's the opposite. I've been from 45 to 60 and I see more Mercies flying around with Pharah's and getting babysat than I did. Hell, nobody even played Mercy in low elo, is was all epic Lucio retards who didn't even know how to play him.
And good luck hunting a Mercy as Reaper when she's got a pocket Pharah.
>>344599209
Maybe he means even lower MMR.
DESU, I always queue with 5 other friends so 100% of the shit that /v/ complains about doesn't really ever affect me.
>>344599209
Not him again, I'm playing at 60 and I see Mercys on defense and paired with Lucio mostly. I still think she's lackluster, even with the strong ult.
You need Widow or 76 if she's with Pharah. Bastion can do alright but he needs to be sat by Rein.
>>344545938
TILL VALHALLA
>>344599095
But I've seen her start saying her line and die and it not go off.
>>344587559
>TLDR you're retarded and blizz knows norse mythology better than you do
lol, whatever you say anon
>>344601256
Don't use that shitty skin.
ITT genji and reaper mains saying stupid shit
>>344601491
You can't tell me what to do.
>>344599161
I'm pretty sure he means only up to 3 heroes will get revived.
Which seems like a great fix.
>>344549776
TIME TO SLEEP
>>344601534
You're grounded.
>>344598947
I don't think I've ever lost because of a Mercy rez. If they're dumb enough to all be slaughtered at the same time, reviving them isn't going to do anything but give you another round of free kills.
I mean more often than not they're getting revived right in the centre of your team, use the moments where they can't attack to take aim, then unleash on them and they'll be gone again
>>344601776
A team doesn't have to be dumb to get wiped. If a team pops off a Zarya/Pharah/Junkrat ults at the same time there's often very little you can do to avoid being killed.
>>344580203
pharahs ult should have a pool of 600 to promote solo and duo ulting as well
>>344601871
So bringing them back is just like the Ult was wasted, which happens from time to time, you can still wipe the enemy team without relying on an Ult, and what are the chances all the offensive Ults have just been used up and no one else has one ready to go?
i'm not saying I haven't seen good, or annoying rezzes, but they're never game breaking. Get your shit together.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
Mercy's ult should make the living members in the casting radius invincible for the casting duration while making the ult charge slower to balance. Would encourage players to use it more liberally instead of being one of those cunts who saves it until everyone else is dead.
Dying should also reduce her charge by 25% to reward smart play by the other team.
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
mercy's Ult is fine, you're all faggots. Literally no different to people who demand nerfs for heroes they don't know how to counter. If you don't have someone on your team fucking bullying Mercy, you're playing wrong. If you can't wipe out the enemy team twice in a row, you're playing wrong
>>344604016
>If you can't wipe out the enemy team twice in a row, you're playing wrong
"If Blizzard's retarded matchmaking doesn't magically put you against a team of brain-dead shitters, you're playing wrong."
>>344549776
sleep tight reap tight
>>344604331
No, if you wiped them out once, rezzing them won't help. Particularly as you'll have the objective of having secured the area they're in. if you're too retarded to catch them in a crossfire the moment they can take damage again., youre definitely doing it wrong
>>344605373
>No, if you wiped them out once, rezzing them won't help.
This is assuming your entire team is still alive, which, if it's actually a close game and not an unbalanced stomp, will not be the case.
>>344581117
>My face when I'm behind enemy lines and I fat finger X
>>344587237
Your team is playing 5 v 6 if you pick zenyatta.
>>344548232
symmetras alt fire is really good against turrets and bastion plus her teleporter is really handy at the end. turrets are also good defending against flanking. if you're attacking though you should have another support with you
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