We picked ally and Uchikoshi picked betray
The game is fine
>>343981908
Worst $40, should have waited for the price drop.
Good thing I avoided all those plot-concluding spoilers.
>>343982018
Were you fine with the animations of Sean trying to murder Carlos?
Would the game have looked better if they kept the camera filter from the trailers? Or unlock it after the game?
I wonder if that anon enjoyed his trip to Nintendo World.
>>343981908
So what was the single worst thing about the game to you guys? The weird disjointed story structure? The shitty plain characters? The lack of suspense? The silly ending? The lackluster puzzles? What was it that BROKE YOUR HEART?
>>343981908
where did kyle go
As someone who just played through the series in time for ZTD to be out, I feel like maybe the long wait may have warped some expectations for this game. I mean the animations are shit and the plot gets sloppy once Q is revealed but it's pretty good overall.
>>343982220
Gab, we went over this a few times.
Someone post PC screenshots I need them.
In the library, Q wasn't on the 9-person portraits and nobody in Q team mentioned the discrepancy. Why?
>>343982382
It could've been Q for all they knew.
REMINDER
Threadly Reminder.
>>343982514
Why is everyone so obsessed with Snake? He becomes a secret agent harpist and lives happily ever after. The end.
>>343982253
I didn't even know a 3rd game was being made until like a week ago and I still thought it was pretty bad.
>>343982705
He's just dapper as fuck.
>>343982220
Into the land ofdropped concepts.:-)
>>343982657
Some of those are actually answered
>>343981908
You picked betray the moment you decided to torrent the game.
>>343982806
sshhhh anon
shitposters aren't here for discussion, you know this.
>>343982657
So is this it? Is Uchikoshi confirmed for hack status?
>>343982382
That would spoil the twist.No idea, I had the same thought.
>>343982806
Not at all.
>there are people who like to ignore the fact the game came out at all despite massive budget cuts and only a year turn-around time including developing the fucking engine.
>>343982359
You can headcanon all you want, won't make it true
>>343982975
While it's true people are still entitled to their ownwhinings
>>343982975
Go away, Infanune.
>>343983184
BUT IT'S
>>343982975
>"It's better than nothing." - Keiji Inafune
post yfw uchikoshi gets hired by telltale
>>343982657
>Not important, could easily be answered in a new Q&A
>Not important, could easily be answered in a new Q&A
>Partially answered, the other part is potentially interesting but easily inferred and could easily be answered in a new Q&A
>Not important, could easily be answered in a new Q&A
>Dropped the ball on a lot of this, honestly
Why does everyone need to know what happened to every character during every timeline? I get it, Uchikoshi dropped some stuff from the game, perhaps because the scope of the project was diminished by budget, but a lot of this stuff is just extra details, the kind of stuff that you'd read in supplementary material, not worth spending actual story time on.
>>343983262
Why hasn't there a JUST edit of this?
>>343981908
Junpei and Akane are assholes now.
>>343983235
>>343983251
Mother fuckers
>>343983335
Apologist.
>>343983184
No one is denying plot strings were dropped, but I'm just fucking happy I have a ZE3 at all. This is the best we could've gotten in the situation it was in.
Is it perfect? Hell no, that's 999. But for a conclusion it's pretty good.
>>343982806
At best, the Ace one is answered with 1 throwaway sentence and the Akane one is kind of answered?
Here's the question I have:Why doesn't anyone on Q-Team wonder why Sean's name isn't on the X-Pass board with all of the others? Why does no one mention that there's more people playing the game than there are potential X-Passes?
>>343982975
That's not a justification for the game being bad.
>>343983371
>Akane
>Not an asshole
>>343983456
The game isn't bad though. A few plot strings get dropped but most everything important is answered.
>>343983452
mira doesn't give a shit and eric suspects him the whole time, he's just a fuck up
>>343983380
No, I genuinely didn't care about any of this shit going into ZTD. I wanted to know what would happen with Junpei, Akane, Sigma, and Phi, and what would happen with Radical-6 and the fate of the world. I don't need to know how many freckles Nona has or where Snake likes to shit.
>>343982862
You could say that.
>>343983335
Time of day certainly is right. Not surprising to see late-night /v/ full of Uchi apologists.
>>343983459
Why is 999 June so cute?
>>343983452
Did they ever specifically say only 9 people were participating?
>>343983607
inthe trailers
>>343982975
Its hard to believe the game had a lower budget than 999.
With all the camera angle shit they tried to do but failed due to godawful animations.
Seriously nobody who was playing or making this can think and say to themselves. "Yeah this looks good"
>>343983452
It was the reason Eric was so suspicious of him. Mira doesn't give a shit.
>>343983607
There's only 9 names on the board
>>343983452
The other teams do not question it because they don't know Sean exists at all, they think it's just Q, Mira and Eric
I don't remember any timeline in which Mira and Eric kill Q and Sean and then ask themselves why Sean had no xpass
>>343983714
hmm, true. Not sure why Eric and Mira wouldn't question it.
>>343983693
Is that confirmed?
>>343983695
Yeah, but my point is why is it never brought up? I get that it's to guard the twist, but when the twist is so obtuse you have to run circles around logic like that, maybe it's just a shitty twist.
>>343983693
ZTD has great models, it's just ruined by the shitty robotic animations. Even VLR looked better despite the okay-ish models.
>>343982220
He shifted into a better game. The only one who had a good ending.
>>343984001
>we got a shitty game in this timeline
I blame the snail.
>>343983693
It's a miracle we got something outside of a book.
>>343983834
It's not confirmed but it's a well-known fact that ZE3 had funding issues which is why it took so long to get made. Animation is pretty fucking expensive, 3D or not, and you can't really sell a VN title with sprites in this day and age.
>>343983849
Everyone's name is already on the X-pass board, their name just moves from the alive side to the dead side if you die. Sean's name not being there should have been a pretty major talking point.
>>343983849
eric loses his memories constantly and doesn't shift or access the morphogenetic field so he doesn't have time to question it usually
>>343984114
meant for
>>343983718
I really fucking love Ice Cream.
>>343984102
>What is Danganronpa
>>343982220
He's in Carlos2 body, he was necessary because if Carlos had stopped the game then the terrorist wins.
>>343983849
I think the library puzzle was conceived before they thought of the twist.
>>343984001
Well, considering (?) was the videogame player, I assume if you close ZTD and play another game you could say he jumped into that other game.
If that game is Bravely Default it even fits with the game lore sinceTiz is possessed by a videogame player too
>>343984102
Danganronpa manages.
>bad animations
What is this meme? I thought they were fine except for Sigma frowning all the time. Even when he laughs
If you guys had $200k to spare, would you help fund ZTD?
>>343983952
:() :| :() :| :()
ó____ò
>>343984102
>and you can't really sell a VN title with sprites in this day and age
r u dum
>>343984367
Uchi always comes up with the twist before anything else. If that wasn't true for this then maybe that was the problem.
>>343984398
sleepwithme.webm
>>343984398
>>343984398
oh boy
here we go
Im pretty sure they accommodated the whole plot just to fit into the "player is zero" twist. The game and the plot were damaged by forcing it to fit in that twist.
It seems the whole game was just an excuse to present that twist, and all the dropped plot points were discarded because they wouldnt fit within the new twist gimmick
I'm missing three cinema files on the bottom and one quest file at the bottom, anyone know where I can get these?
>>343984398
I liked the game but the animations were shit. They were stiff and robotic, and shit like Akane's hair was really fucked. I could easily forgive that, but the mouth animations were so bad. Generic flapping mouths like VLR would have been better than the awful shit that happened in this game.
>>343984398
Frankly the animation and graphics are the least of its issues. They are decent enough for a budget game.
>>343984585
>It seems the whole game was just an excuse to present that twist
999 and probably VLR were exactly the same way.
CARLOS FUCKING JUNPEI PORN WHEN
Anyone care to explain again Delta's complex motive?
>>343984398
Is this just a bait so people can post webms of the bad animations?
>>343984569
>that fucking sitting pose
It's hilarious how much of a nihilistic asshole it makes him look.
>>343984635
Quest file is probably the one from the library. You should've gotten another note or clue that showed Letter-##-#### for the chair. It shows you what to do with the parts you get, in case you're a retard.
>>343984831
It's complex
>>343984274
And danganronpa is shit. Your point?
>>343984576
Did Uchikoshi forgot that Phi could only use High Jump Kick because they were in space?
What was the point of the blue button?
>>343984415
Are you trying to imply that the game has shitty mouth animations?
>>343984831
To complete the loop.
>>343984910
shit or not, it sells, dumbass
>>343984398
Did you think the sean-clone trying to kill carlos (with the naruto run no less) segment had nice animations? Or am i being baited here?
The models looked okay while stationary, but in my opinion junpei was unrecognizable from his 999-look. Eric also had clipping issues while folding his arms really early in the game. It just looks amateurish at points.
>>343985001
Don't respond to shitposters.
>>343983952
The animations are caused by the models. The rigging blows ass, it's plain as day.
>>343984949
It does.
>>343984831
Obligatory
>>343982705
It's funny to imagine him doing a cockney accent
>>343983262
But how would the choices matter
>>343984831
1.) Make sure he and Phi were born
2.) Band everyone together to stop the terrorist
3.) Let Sean live a happy life in some way
4.) Personal amusement
>>343984910
That you can
>really sell a VN title with sprites in this day and age
DR sells better than ZE.
>>343984449
>>343984379
goddamn, totally forgot about that. But, yeah, it's hard to go back to 2D when you've already used 3D in a past game.
Also fuck danganronpa, that game is so mediocre.
>>343984398
I can't see "bad animations" as a legitimate complain granted you knew beforehand they had no money
Making the plot costs so no money so you can shit on that however you want
But "it's a bad game because the animations are bad" is just stupid to me
It's just what we got
>>343984886
Speaking of the library. what did the note you get from the vault with the statues in it unlock? I couldn't figure it out.
>>343985040
I don't deny it. I was just wondering if that was what you meant in that post.
>>343984831
By complex he meant he had multiple goals
>Ensure that him and Phi were born, and born with powers
>Find a solution to the terrorist problem, by either releasing Radical-6 or ending up with Shift Team Six
>Observe how human decision changes the future, because he finds it interesting and is an asshole
>>343984831
He fucked with his parents(and apparently needed to get them to fuck to ensure some kind of time loop where he's born) and a bunch of other people because apparently in the future he expended a lot of effort making an insanely potent virus and a powerful world cult to kill 6 billion people so that 2 billion might be spared and he is trying to antogonize his parents and their friends into one upping him being making them undergo death games and shit to see if they can save more people because they need to be in the right motivated frame of mind or some shit.
Mind hacked, bitch.
>>343985042
MIND HACK, muthafucka.That will never not make me laugh.
>>343984831
He wants to be born, kill a lot of people with his suicide STD, but then not kill anyone, but maybe just one guy because he's a terrorist, and make everyone gung ho about all of it.
Also shifters give him a raging boner.
If I haven't played Zero Escape or Virtue's Last Reward, should I play Zero Time Dilemma?
I'm looking for a good puzzle game. Will this scratch my itch?
Is the quantum computer really just the morphogenetic field everyone taps into throughout all three games?
>>343984585
Uchi literally writes his twists first then stories around it later. He said so himself
>>343985124
Did you finish the game? I forgot what the note said on it since it's been a good while.
Also, the positions of the files don't matter since they'll fill up the spaces on their own, I think.
>>343984940
To make Sigma look like an asshole.
>>343985314
999 then VLR then ZTD
There is no other option
Just don't expect much out of ZTD
>>343985003
Junpei and Akane models didn't look like them at all.
>>343985314
Nope
You will get spoilered you cancerous dumb nigger
>>343985314
No.
I kind of wished that, at the end of the game, the whole shifting timelines superpower got somehow deleted
Since the second game it has become lame and abused, i wanted it to end somehow
>>343985314
I wouldn't call them very good puzzle games, but you probably should start with 999. It does have easier puzzles than ZTD and VLR, but you'd find yourself out of the loop with the story otherwise.
>>343985314
EVERY THREAD UNTIL YOU LIKE IT
>>343985113
Bad animations is a legitimate fucking complaint regardless of the game's budget. Maybe if it cost $25 I'd accept your argument. If you cannot properly animate the scenes then its fucking common sense to narrate them while providing still images depicting the action.
>>343985357
>>343985124
Wait I remember.
You input that into the chair and you get the note telling you how to assemble the key.
Like I said, you'd need to be a retard not to just combine shit you get.
>>343985347
I think a lot people do that too, even Yoko Taro.
>>343984886
Sorry, here's a screenshot of the quest section I should have provided beforehand
Will do the other next
>>343985584
Got you covered.
>>343985642
I honestly think the game would have been better off with just VN style still images.
I just beat 999 today, having previously played VLR and ZTD.
Objective ranking:
VLR > ZTD > 999
>>343985682
I'm going to post this everytime I see that
>>343985742
I feel like the ending twist is almost completely ruined by having the game be more "cinematic." In "VN Style" it probably would've been really fucking cool.
>>343984986
>Delta completes the loop to save the world and get himself born without killing anyone (and even saving Maria's life)
>wow what an asshole
>Akane completes the loop for revenge and to save herself by murdering several people
>perfect and pure!
Why is life so unfair?
>>343985792
Kill yourself my man.
>>343985792
You're a retard because you play beforehand the games where the huge twist of 999 is just played as a superpower and abused and then dare to say that 999 is objectively the worst
>>343985742
Both VLR and ZTD would be better if they just stuck with 999's way of doing things, but especially ZTD.
But then the Q twist would be even more of an asspull so they'd have to change that quite a bit.
>>343985672
The last one I need is in between SHIFT and Incinerator
>>343985883
>without killing anyone
Leader of a doomsday cult, that's been kidnapping and killing people since 1930.
>>343985883
Akane is an asshole, but all she did was lock people up and get Ace to kill people. Also endangering people by putting them in the vicinity of Ace and Clover.
It's a bit different from creating actual death traps and murdering people directly. Or releasing Radical-6.
>>343985672
the quest file is in the toolbox in the incinerator
gotta shove it through the chute and open with the screwdriver
>>343985958
They appear in the order you grab them so they're unique to everyone.
I'd need a list of the ones you have to help man since I can't MIND HACK
>>343985883
Because Delta isn'thot.
999 should have stayed as a standalone game desu. VLR and ZTD was a mistake.
Which are worse:
>ZTD is a great game with a fitting conclusion to the trilogy and has no major flaws fags
or
>Should I play the third game in a trilogy before the first two fags
question mark
>>343986201
Bullshit otherwise ??? would be at the bottom.
>>343986201
>>343985958
I'm retarded and didn't see the sort button.
You're missing Monty Hall 1 and 2 for cinema.
Note Trash Disposal is from the toolbox I think.
>>343986283
Can't it be a great game with major flaws?
>>343986229
>junpeis victory trot
O I am laffin
>>343986229
>claimed to be pretty smart at her age
>knows a lot of shit kids her age usually wouldn't
>doesn't know how to solve a sudoku puzzle
Life is truly unfair.
>>343986283
The second as the first one was never actually said by anyone that wasn't falseflagging
>>343986283
First by a mile. The second group don't feel the need to defend their stance.
>>343986229
His voice is the hottest thing to come out of all three games.
>>343986283
>ZTD is a great game with a fitting conclusion to the trilogy and has no major flaws fags
This isn't a thing tho, there's literally no one claiming the game is perfect, only people saying that what we got was acceptable considering the conditions the game was made under.
>>343985920
It's objectively correct. 999's LE EPIC SHOCKING TWIST is really not that interesting or unexpected, and the plot overall is mediocre and not particularly complex.
VLR ramps up everything 999 did by tenfold and the sheer level of insanity makes it impossible to dislike.
ZTD tries to replicate the VLR formula but is something of a pale copy.
>>343986434
>there isn't a New Vegas edit of Junpei "winning the lottery"
Then, what was the point for Free the Soul and all the bullshit surrounding them?
>>343986283
What flaws are you talking about besides animation and memes like COMPLEX?
>>343986362
>great game
>major flaws
>>343986479
I wish stupid opinions weren't genuine, too, anon, but unfortunately, that is not how reality works.
>>343986532
>>343986574
SO THAT AKANE WOULD GET KIDNAPPED IN THE FIRST PLACE, DO YOU PEOPLE NOT KNOW HOW TO RUB TWO BRAINCELLS TOGETHER? THE FIRST NONARY GAME WAS BACKED BY FTS.
>>343986432
This sequence was the most retarded fucking thing, even when it was revealed as part of Carlos plan.
Actually I take that back, I can't decide if this scene is worse than all the random scenes where characters go into tangents explaining different paradoxes. Those came off as pretentious and stupid as well.
>>343986634
>>great game
>>major flaws
Yeah, like MGSV.
>>343986532
>LE EPIC SHOCKING TWIST
VLR is a more "LE EPIC SHOCKING TWIST" game than 999 ever is. 999's twist was well presented, while VLR just leaves you confused 80% of the game, then drops 5 twists per second at you near the ending. It feels like the game is just doing it for the sake of DUDE TWISTS LMAO.
>>343986532
The point is that it's not unexpected because it got run into the ground by VLR and ZTD
If one day you wake up, scratch your ass and decide to play 999 you can't actually expect the twist
It's like saying Sigma being old in VLR is not a huge twist because it was not unexpected since you heard him say that in ZTD
>>343986112
>doomsday cult, that's been kidnapping and killing people since 1930
Was that mentioned in VLR? Haven't played it in a while, but from my memory Free the Soul didn't start being violent until after Radical-6.
>>343986741
>Actually I take that back, I can't decide if this scene is worse than all the random scenes where characters go into tangents explaining different paradoxes. Those came off as pretentious and stupid as well.
Is this your first Zero Escape?
>>343986173
Fuck I forgot I skipped that, thanks
>>343986347
Thanks man, cleared Quest sections
For Monty Hall, do I have to fail it or something? Also, what's in between SHIFT and Incinerator?
>>343986769
The aftermath of literally every escape room in all 3 games has a pretentious paradox dialogue
Bit late to complain
>>343986915
>For Monty Hall, do I have to fail it or something?
Yes.
>>343986741
>all the random scenes where characters go into tangents explaining different paradoxes. Those came off as pretentious and stupid as well.
Hey, lemme tell you a story about Ice-9.
>>343986869
No. I remember it being done in 999 and VLR but not with this sort of frequency. That does not change the fact that it's shitty writing, so you missed the point entirely.
>>343986532
>ZTD tries to replicate the VLR formula but is something of a pale copy.
I kind of agree, but it was neat to see SHIFT being used more actively than in VLR.
>>343986832
Well they're basically behind almost all original Nonary Games. They also kidnappedAlice's father for their cloning research and killed him
Playing the game right now and I'm finding this memory fragment shit stupid. Is there even a point to it?
>>343986750
And ZTD is Dude, nothing happens LMAO.
Id take Dude Twists Lmao every fucking day.
ZTD is a tedious checkbox simulator where you just tick the boxes and have no fear of consequences because you can just fuck it up and literally send another you from a different timeline to die in your place while you now can steal the other guy's life.
I just wanted to say that while I enjoyed ZTD a lot, the best part has been sharing the memes with you guys and enjoying the constant shitposting of muh complex motives and 10 months.
I know eventually the traffic for threads will die so I'm enjoying everything I can. Thanks anons.
>>343986741
HEY ANON DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS PAINTING?
THERE WAS THIS WEIRD EXPERIMENT THEY DID TO TEST MIND POWERS
WEIRD THAT I KNOW THIS STORY HUH?
>>343986915
Antidote hint.
Fail it.
>>343987142
/srg/ please leave
>>343987141
Yeah? What kind of question is that
>>343987142
I was defending 999, but I do agree VLR is better than ZTD.
>>343987158
well now the fucking "this game isn't an absolute perfect masterpiece" shitposters are taking over.
I too enjoyed the threads and am happy that ZTD came out and gave me some closure on a series I really loved.
>>343987158
I agree. Snailposting has become one of the best things about these threads.
>>343987038
>Not with this sort of frequency
>In 999
Nigga you just don't remember. Every puzzles. Literally every fucking puzzle went the same way Solve 1/2 puzzle until you finally get that piece that makes the rest fall into place -> Talk with someone in the room about Ice-9, Computers, the Gigantic, Theseus Ship or whatever the fuck else-> Do rest of puzzle
>>343987092
>tfw Carlos was the only character with any sort of agency
I'm still a little dissapointed no one else tried to think outside the box, especially when some of these fucks have been in three goddamn nonary games. More than anything I wish someone had tried to consider if Zero maybe had an ulterior motive, but I guess that sort of reasoning breaks the tension.
B R A V O U C H I
>>343987158don't forget the stream on Friday if you want more real-time shitposting
>>343987158
I'm happy we even got ZTD, but I'm also really happy that there's a place (right now) where there is actual discussion of the game (besides shitposting).
Felt bad when I finished 999 for the first time and had no one to talk about it with.
>>343987202
Its true. Knowing the whole map ramifications from the beginning was a mistake. It just becomes a tick the checkbox game.
Doesnt help that everyone acts in selfish and horrible ways every time they shift and they pretend to have some sort of moral dilemma at the ending.
>>343987326
In 999 the long rants are only in the rooms that lead to the true ending
>>343987385
How did he fail at the end of his shitfing overdrive madness? I kinda forgot it
>>343987326
>HEY MAN WANNA KNOW ABOUT RATS AND THE POWER OF THOUGHTS
>DID YOU KNOW THERE ARE 2 TITANICS???
>HOLY SHIT ICE-9 IS GREAT
>LOOK AT ALL THESE COMPUTERS BOY I GOTTA TELL YOU SOME PLOT DEVICES ABOUT COMPUTERS
I know for a fact there are more "theories" that 999 talks about. In fact, almost every puzzle you solve talks about them. It's kind of crazy.
>>343987506
That's not fucking true at all, the very first split you take (the one which blocks you from the true ending) has the whole painting anecdote, you're full of shit.
So why didnt Sigma and Diana shifted at the stranded ending?
>>343987506
The characters also feel like they actually did know what they were talking about, mostly in 999. In ZTD the characters just don't seem... intelligent, even the returning ones.
>>343987714
Please look forward to the release of Zero Escape 4!
>>343987659
Dude, the room with the painting is the one where Santa gives you the 4leaf clover and is connected to the true ending
>>343987714
Technically they could have, just more of an unconscious shift like in much of VLR. Not really any way to know.
>>343981908
Couldn't agree more. Maybe it's cause of budget and he just rushed things, but I found it disappointing.
999 > VLR > ZTD
>>343987198
Thanks!
>>343987158
>the best part has been sharing the memes with you guys and enjoying the constant shitposting of muh complex motives and 10 months
>only just finished the game
Everything I've seen so far is great. I hope there's more.
>>343987556
>transports 10 months prior to the Decision Game so the transporter has enough energy to be ready for the game
>SHIFTs into the aforementioned body
>waltz out of Zero's base and waits ten months for the game to start so he can still meet Junpei and Akane and bail them out
Hypothetically though, I think any other sort of thought process would create a paradox. Junpei and Akane SHIFT into the Rad-6 timeline because it exists. If Carlos fucks with the Decision Game at all then what happens to Junpei and Akane's shifted consciousnesses?
>>343987792
>In ZTD the characters just don't seem... intelligent, even the returning ones
Yeah, it really bothered me that the Zeros of the previous games don't seem to have a general idea how things work at all.
Just got the D-END2 and cried like a baby. Loving this game so much.
Also, it's like Sigma is really the favorite one of the director/writer, he always get the best scenes.
My favorite aspect of the Zero Escape games is appreciating all the different layers of the plot that had to be slotted together. Like in 999 how they had to plan out the possible pairings of bracelets to go through the doors, and then mixing it up by killing off characters, but then someone stealing their bracelet, and then eventually learning someone's bracelet is actually a different number from what it shows, etc.
Same with VLR - you know they had to map out all the possible outcomes of the AB game, and figure out how many points each participant would have at any given time, and how that would affect their outlook and strategy for the next round, and then they had to take that and wrap it around the actual story progression and plot locks and everything. It ended up incredibly intricate and fun to think about.
ZTD sadly goes back to a much more simplistic diagram, if there even really is one at all. Instead, the game shifts its focus to SHIFTing and time traveling shenanigans, which are still enjoyable to figure out, but not as ultimately satisfying as the tangled web VLR ended up being.
>>343987824
>Tfw we'll never get something as good as 999
The setting. The characters. The story. The music. Everything was perfect, well except the puzzles. VLR was better in that regard. I didn't like the puzzles in ZTD much.
>>343988073
>>SHIFTs into the aforementioned body
That's a bit redundant. It is a perfect copy. They're basically the same person, same mind and all.
>>343988195
Sub ending hit me like a truck the first time.
>>343988195
The most memorable sound effect for me is the metal creaking noise in the beginning of the game. It really set in the mood for me that I was stuck in a huge sinking ship.
>>343987824
But, anon, VLR is the best game of the series.
>>343988073
You can't prevent a timeline from existing, just create new ones. This is why shifting is fucking stupid. There is no way to lose because characters can shift an infinite number of times resulting in that many alternate timelines, among which at least one will ensure that radical-6 is not spread.
>Enormous build up (entire game just for that) for the moment where Junpei gets the memories from the safe ending to open the coffin
>Reduced to just "let's just shift continuously for whatever reason" by VLR and ZTD
Fuck this
>>343987795
>>343987506
Unless you're talking about safe + true ending. I know 100% you're wrong because Lotus talks about the remote computer shit in the lab.
Even if you are the only 2 rooms not in that setup are 3 and 2. And in 2 I know Lotus talks to you about her kids and Seven talks about his memories of being in that cell before.
>>343987795
to get the true ending you need to use the safe in the first path.
Why doesn't Akane have the boys SHIFT by making them feel threatened, like she did in VLR, rather than having them fucking kill themselves.
>>343988073
Yeah I remember him rescuing those guys, but why was it bad?
>>343987714
Your life has to be in immediate danger to shift.
>>343988280
Well then maybe he didn't shift actually. I didn't really think about that, but i figure Carlos wouldn't just stick around. He probably shot at the nucleus until it started to explode.
>>343988156
I agree with everything you said. I'm actually disappointed that ZTD doesn't have the same thing you mentioned that was done in 999 and VLR.
>This thread
Is it really that bad guys? Will I be disappointed as fuck? Can I just know what makes it bad without spoilers?
>>343988384
I would argue that Lotus talking about her kids and Seven talking about his memories (dialogue that then is copypasted in another route not locked into a bad ending) does not count as "pretentious paradox dialogue"
>>343988504
PLAY THE GAME
>>343988504
No, maybe, no, and get out and play the game
>>343988409
She does that though. Nuclear reactor.
>>343988504
PLAY
THE
GAMEWhile not as good as VLR or 999, I think it's still worth a play. It has its moments.
Was Dio a clone of Delta? It's been a while since I played VLR.
>>343988532
Even then you're looking at 2/9 rooms not having that dialogue. Both rooms being insta fail rooms regardless of what you've been doing.
>>343988474
They were upset because he did nothing to stop Zero despite having prior knowledge and 10 months time.
>>343988504
It's not bad, it's shitposters blowing nitpicks out of proportion as usual.
>>343988339
That for me too, and the immediate shift into the puzzle room without getting any sort of plot introduction. VLR did it too with Sigma and Phi and it was great. It really got across the sense of urgency that was lacking in ZTD despite the upped gore.
>>343988195
I loved 999. Honestly one of my favorite DS games.
I made it about 3/4 of the way through VLR before i dropped it. It wasnt bad I just couldnt motivate myself to finish it.
>>343988504
>Yes
>Yes
>No because plot aspects are one reason why the game was a disappointment
>>343988156
I thought the fragment system was pretty cool, I switched teams every time I finished one so it didn't feel like I was going down a list and it was fun to piece things together and figure out which timeline I was in
>>343988660
Clone of his non-blood related brother
>>343988660
Delta's adoptive borther. Left
>>343986547
gotcha family
if anyone can post or tell me which cutscene the cleaner shot of Junpei on Ice is I'll fix it.
So I wonder
If Phi is qt/10, Diana is cutesorta, and Sigma is a hunk with 18-inches, how did Delta look in his early 20s?
>>343988690
>they're stuck in an elevator
>ESCAPE THE ROOM
>vertigo immediately kicks the fuck in
Good stuff.
>>343988771
BEST PUZZLE ROOM EVER
>>343988493
I don't think he knows that it makes copies. I mean, he killed Akane and Junpei that one time he threw Dark Sean against the transporter and didn't even mind.
>>343988504
>Is it really that bad guys?
Yes. Fuck Uchi.
>Will I be disappointed as fuck?
If you aren't by the end then you're retarded.
>Can I just know what makes it bad without spoilers?
No. Play the game and suffer.
>>343988374
the mechanic of retaining memories across timelines is the crux of the entire series. 999 built up to it as a singular reveal. VLR took that great idea and built an entire game around it, layering bits of knowledge up into grand complex reveals. ZTD turned it into a dragon ball z powerup where you can kamehameha your consciousness into another universe once your willpower is strong enough or whatever.
>>343988829
He totally smashed puss withouth needing his powers
>>343986750
VLR had plenty of foreshadowing for the twists.
You knew Tenmyouji was Junpei when the photo showed up in Director room, that means you knew you were in the future.
You knew 3 pods were used to thaw people out. Phi, Clover and Alice, so the Sigma is old twist should have been obvious too.
>>343988897
>Dark Sean
>>343988680
Thats pretty cruel.
I mean, Carlos probably didnt sleep those 10 months with the excitement of thinking about his big entry to rescue his friends. He could have rescued them before or much later, but he timed it exactly to appear just after he disappeared just to make it more exciting to everyone.
Akane is shit.
>>343988684
>nitpicks
Oh look, a neanderthal is blocking my way.
>>343984930
I was wondering this too when I saw her do that.
THIS STUPID PUZZLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343986462
You missed the whole point of 999
She couldnt see the sudoku on her screen
>>343988973
You forgot: "You senile old fuck!"
>>343989037
You can tell Carlos isn't used to insulting people if that's what he came up with after thinking for a solid hour
