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I am so sick of listening to this stupid bitch's nonsense.
>stupid bitch
op confirmed sexist
>>343586524
Last panel needs a 'Life is simply unfair, don't you think...?'
MIND HACK
And by the way, she got it 1000% wrong, just like the movie she's talking about.
When Marty McFly altered history he would have ceased to exist. Or, if he was protected somehow, when he went back to the present there would be another Marty McFly already there.
Or you know, since his parents probably conceived at a different time due to vastly different circumstances, there would have been a Marty McFly who looked and acted entirely different, or wasn't even male.
But no, I guess M murdered M2 by changing history and returning to his time to see different things.
Wait, so the choice after the rec room, is it really luck? Do I have to play it over and over to get different endings?
Akane had not right to act so high and mighty towards anyone, let alone how often she berated Junpei for acting the way he did when she was a direct cause of it.
>>343585674
Why are you listening to her, Anon? Akane is forbaking.
>>343586776
I think it's scripted to work on the third try.
>>343586259
I mean the prison break
To that guy last thread that said TEAM C is a bunch of gays with sexual tension
>Junpei didnt beat up carlos because he was raping his girlfriend, he got jelous and wanted carlos to rape him instead
I've gotten the true end but somehow missed two Cinema between 2^100 and Nucleus. Where do I have to jump to find them?
>>343586776
Remind me which choice that was again? The only one I had to repeat was the gun/chair one. Speaking of which, we never got the "put your finger in the gun" line from the trailer, or did I just miss it somehow?
>>343586776
it took me three tries. if it is random, it's probably like 1 in 5, not 1 in 300 or whatever
>rewatched a few end game stuff from VLR cause i forgot a few end game shit
>in VLR Akane says kyle is so fucking important for dcom misson
>DIDN'T COME UP ONCE IN ZTD
am i just fucking stupid and missed kyle been mentioned or coming up at all in ZTD or did uchi fuck up?
>>343586976
>game has homos
>wtf tumblr stop forcing this shit on me
>game has no homos
>i wish x and y were homo
/v/, ladies and gentleman
>>343587020
Kyle was Gab...maybe...probably. Who knows.
That shit got dropped. I like to think ? was Sean though.
>>343587123
Hey fuck you don't lump me in with those faggots. I hate fags.
>>343587014
Everyone I've seen talk about it got it in 3. And then Akane goes on to talk about what there chances would be if they tried 3 times so it's definitely scripted.
>>343587020
the player is kyle or some stupid bullshit like that
"YEAH I AM! DRUNK ON LIFE!" is "WOOHOO I WON THE LOTTERY" levels of bad
>>343587123
Its probably people from tumblr
>>343587210
oh ok, i've been told the bullet thing actually is random so i thought that might be the same
>>343587020
Kyle's not important enough to be in ZTD. We had to make room for important characters like Mira and Eric.
>>343587130
I think ? is still us, watching everything from the outside in
sigmas complex bp tbqhwyf
>>343587323
It was the first time i'd seen Junpei so enthusiastic in this game and it was justified so I was fine with it.
>>343587130
If it got dropped i hope uchi just admits he dropped the ball on this one and doesnt get all "who knows.....". Akane was pretty much saying he was vital for dcom misson so him just been gab makes no sense if hes just chilling watching the whole thing cause then he wouldnt be really needed at all like VLR akane says
>>343587130
>Kyle is Gab
>Needs to be lured with cheese
Delta reminds me of Jinzo. I want to make some sort of joke about that but I can't.
Yeah, where was the Blick Winkel shit in this game?
>>343587584
He didn't NEED to be lured.
But hey, free meal.
So were Junpei and Akane just retconned into being shifters? In 999 it seemed like Junpei could only act as a a beacon and Akane could only look at other timelines.
>>343587765
BW is just the player. If you want to go all in on Uchikoshi's meta-narrative then he's in all games.
>>343587765
I think people were expecting uchi to do it in this game and also a lot of people complained about it in VLR
So he just kinda dropped it i guess???
>That subtle hint that you could talk to phi by making diana do wierd out of character stuff
>Phi disregards you by saying its some mental issue diana has
>>343587775
>>343587584
it was all the same ward, Gab didn't do shit but eat the cheese in the vent and come back like an hour later. they would have been just as fine leaving the note on the floor
A lot of the death scenes in this gave me a weird guro art vibe and I'm not sure if I'm okay with it.
>>343587831
Their morphogenetic powers manifested into shifting thanks to being around Carlos
Like how Eric and Mira shifted despite having nothing before
>>343588062
I wanted to see the acid endings
Everything was kinda of tame
>>343588039
he even had a neat little rug in the vent. truly living the good life.
>>343587123
Look, I'm sorry, but all that suffering made Junpei a total stud
i miss best girl
;_;
>>343588183
It was more the faces.
>>343588241
sub-par human waifu, needs an upgrade
>>343588241
d o w n s
>described as having a machiavellian personality deep down.
>she's a dumb bitch ingame for the most part
>>343588183
Fuck, I hated the acid deaths.
Reminded me of Cube Zero
>>343588241
USED
>>343588448
>Has multiple experience with deathtraps and forcing people to trick eachother
>MUH JUNPEI, ILL CHAINSAW YOU/EXTINGUISHER YOU FOR HIM
Any one else feel bad thatDiana remembered watching her daughter burn to death in an alternate history?
>>343588241
It'd help if you posted her picture, Anon.Clover told people they didn't have balls first.
>Q sobbing about how he can't leave Gab behind
fugg :DDD
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
>>343587020
I message Uchi about Kyle and, no joke, he said: "Thank you!!! I think Kyle's consciousness might be someone's consciousness. What do you think?"
>>343588687
>Q silently chained to post
>Sean sobbing about how he can't leave Q behind
Q&A WHEN SO THAT HE CAN AT LEAST SLIGHTLY LESSEN THE AGONIZING DISAPPOINTMENT
>>343587348
According to old Akane he was needed for the dcom misson
https://youtu.be/--aStGphGlY?t=27m15s
>>343588448
It's like she developed Multiple Personality Disorder.
>>343587763
>My deck is too complex for you to understand
>TRAP HACK
>>343588689
>>343588750
>no screencap
i believe you
>>343588896
C O M P L E X
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>>343588821
At least a month from now
THREADLY REMINDER
>Not wanting to kidnap sean and make him your shotacuddleslave
>>343588930
i'm on my 3ds, famggot, hold on
>>343589049
Does Sean have arobo-dick?As an aside, why couldn't we get a cute robogril instead?
What are the two cinema under "2^100" and where do I get them?
>>343588820
>Q silently chained to post
I don't remember this
So do you think Carlos shot Delta in the end?
>>343589010
well thank god they acknowledged why akane was randomly wearing the cloak at the end of VLR, Uchi answering the important questions
>>343589357
That's becausefinish the fucking game before you come on here Jesus Christ
>>343589357
he's offscreen, you're meant to think sean is going back for Gab
>>343589202
>Sigma builds robogirl
>she loves him
>he thinks of her as a daughter
>Kyle is a little shit and tells her that she doesn't have a soul
>she dies trying to help everyone in her ending
>entire game is spent retconning robogirl out of existence
my heart
>>343589429
Yes. Not for all the horrible alternate histories or anything like that, mind. Solely because Delta was being such a smug little fuck about it all.
>>343589357
It's never shown. But knowing that Q was with them and he isn't shown escaping implies that he could be locked up with the dog. This also explains why they put so much effort into trying to save the dog.
>>343588750
Dunno where he said that so don't really believe it that much but if it is its the crappiest cop out ever.
>most important part for dcom according to VLR Akane
>Someone asks him where he is in ZTD
>answering the questions with vague answers
the fucker messed up and doesnt want to admit it, he'll probably just say hes gab eventually which wont make sense ether cause gab didnt have alot to do with the game other than eat cheese
>>343589434
>addressed why she was wearing it by bringing up an even more interesting plot thread and not giving the answer
FUCK YOU UCHI
>>343589429
Do you think you ask this question in every thread in every timeline?
>>343589429
>carlos thinks about it, then casts the gun down and turns away
>about to say something heroic about delta atoning for his sins and that its not up to carlos to judge him
>eric clammers for the gun and unloads the entire mag into delta
>>343589550
She still exists in the VLR timeline. That timeline doesn't go away. Honestly i'm glad, I think Junpei had a point at the end of VLR. They made their golden timeline, but he isn't going to go away, the kid he adopted, the life he built in the aftermath of the apocalypse, it's all still there.
>>343589637
It's not just implied, it's literally shown. You can see the chain extending offscreen in the direction of Q's shadow.
>>343589743
Luna still needs a hug.
>>343589550I love Luna, but her erasure from the ZTD timeline isn't my issue with Sean.
What I mean is that we had fucking Quark in VLR. For once, why couldn't we have an annoying little gril? If ever she's as annoying/boring as Quark or Sean, I can justify her existence by saying that she's at least cute.I fucking hated playing as Team Q. All of them are irredeemably boring.
Is ZTD actually shit or is it just overreaction to how hyped up this game was on /v/?
>>343589010
>"What happened to Snake and the rest of the 999 cast during the pandemic and succeeding apocalypse?"
Nothing. Because they prevented it. He did answer that numbnuts.Why do you complain about stock answers, thinking it was a legitimate promise.
>>343590078
It's not shit, but it's definitely the most flawed one in the trilogy.
Which sucks, 'cause it's supposed to be this epic grand finale to this series, and yet the overall quality of the game is subpar compared to 999 or VLR.
>>343590078
It's not shit, just didn't answer everything and had an underwhelming ending. The twists and revelations in general were kinda disappointing, but it had good puzzles, and some great character moments.
>>343589010
Is this a shitpost or did he actually answer his questions with that answer and then just not resolve any of it in ZTD?
>>343590078
It's great but not as great as it could have been
>>343590078
Most of the game wasn't shit. Ending was shit.
To put it in another way: as a game, and even specifically as a Zero Escape game, it was fine; as a finale, it was horrible at what it was supposed to do.
>>343590078
I don't think anybody thinks it's shit. It just dropped several plot points from VLR and overall is just a different game than people were expecting. It was still one hell of a ride.
>>343590078
I think that people, myself included, think it falls short as a sequel to VLR.
As a standalone sort of game I thought it was quite good.
It would have been a lot better with less movie and more VN
>>343590078
I had a great time with it despite the flaws, right up until about 95% through the game where it falls on its face, shits itself and dies.
>>343590269
It was a stock answer (potentially written by the PR team after he couldn't answer the question) that people misconstrued as a promise.
>>343589434
Uchi explained a method as to how she obtained said robes but das it, mane
>>343590195
Could you point me to the exact scene (or fragment) where Snake was specifically mentioned? I'll wait for your response. :-)
>>343590269He didn't answer any of the questions he promised to in that image
>>343590078
It's meh. It didn't live up to the VLR hype and it dropped somevery importantplot lines.
Akane's terribly written too.
Sometimes I feel alone in appreciating Eric, at least as the one character who knows nothing about any of the timeline psychological shit going on and being off his rocker. I enjoyed his dialogue in the room where he and Sean were alone.
>>343590327
>I don't think anybody thinks it's shit
This may be the most 'headcanon-y' post I've seen throughout every ZTD thread since the leak released.
>>343590207
I would argue 999 is more flawed. It's got higher highs and lower lows. Sudoku is the best part of the entire series, but then you've got the lack of flowchart, the uninteresting bad ends, the way every route plays out exactly the same until after you emerge from the last puzzle door, fewer characters and a shorter game with only two routes worth playing.
FUCKING ERIC
FUCK
AND NOW HE WANTS THE SHOTGUN??
FUCK YOU!!
>>343590486
>The apocalypse never happened in the true end
>Therefore, they didn't cope or deal with it
>Can't deal with it if it didn't exist
Don't need a quote to see how they dealt with a non-existent problem. And again. Stock answer does not equal promise.
>That Zero reveal
My least favorite twist in the entire series. What, Delta has been there all along, everyone knew about him, and they just never happened to mention him or suspect him of anything?
That twist would've made more sense if they tried explaining or implying that Delta (like blick winkel) represents the player's perspective, but he doesn't.
>Phi just happened to be sent forward from 1904 to the 21st century
Why did this happen? Did she come alone? Why didn't Delta come too?
>Transporter occupants still stay in their original time
What about old Phi? What happened to her and why isn't she important or even mentioned in this story?
>>343590207
Other than Kyle not been in the game i didnt really see any huge flaws in it, its more that they didn't really give it an actual ending and just didn't resolve a bunch of stuff other stuff
ERIC Is my favorite
I feel sorry for the poor kid
I hope heuploaded his consciousness into that fake world and is having the time of his life
>>343590626
Eric is a very nice guy when he's not going Rambo over Mira.
Honestly, I feel like the best ending would have been him severing ties with her. Then again, I feel the same way about Junpei and Akane.
>>343586761
If you are receiving this in a fictional context, you are on a deeper level than our agents can reach
I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THE THREAD, BUT I JUST FINISHED THE TRUE ENDING (I THINK) AND AM WRITING ALL CAPS TO GET ATTENTION AND NEED SHIT ANSWERED/MY CONFUSION CONFIRMED
Get out of this thread if you haven't finished
IMMEDIATELY, NOW
ONLY FIRST QUESTION IS BEHIND A BLACK BARWhat the fuck was with Q "always being called Sean"?
I understand that there were hints about Delta, but what?
AYY LMAOS? Alice?!?!? How are these things just... accepted?
who IS 'sean'?
Is popular opinion that Carlos is gay? I'm not, but he's top choice for husbando, other than Siggy, but he's taken for
Is Delta *actually* the player?
Why the fuck does no one care about Mira being a fucking serial killer but all up in arms about Delta?
>>343590713
sorry I meant Sean... my head is fucked right now. I don't know what's wrong with me.
>>343589915
I was listening to a podcast with ex-game journalists and they were talking about the fucked up methods for review scores. 6 is pretty damn bad, because they way they have to work is with 5 being somewhat of an "F" grading; i.e. 50%.
>>343590694
>What about old Phi? What happened to her and why isn't she important or even mentioned in this story?
One of the files seemed to imply she was one of the researchers that adopted young Phi, also she live to be over 100 as well.
>>343590078
literally the only reason anyone is pissed is that Uchi got drunk and did an AMA awhile back where people asked him questions about what happens to various characters in the future, and instead of making up some bullshit on the spot, he told them "better buy the 3rd game, i'll tell you then :^)"
the ending itself was fine and MILES better than VLR's bullshit ending in my opinion
>>343590694
Old Phi is mentioned in the epilogue docs.
>>343590694
>never happened to mention him
remember how surprised you were looking back through VLR and noticing all the times you were called old that you missed the first time?
>>343590779Q wasn't called Sean. The kid with the helmet is Sean. He was always referred to that way by Mira and Eric because he knew his name, but nothing else.
>>343590687
>X will be revealed in the 3rd game
>Please enjoy!
Not even trying to start an argument but I honestly will never understand why/how people will/can defend every single action that Uchi takes (this goes for any conceivable topic since contrarianism/argumentation runs rampant on 4chan for the past several years)
I think my vlr save file is corrupted.
I saved the game rigt before the PEC room but when I continue I get a black screen and nothing else.
How can I fix this?
>>343590481
I guess but its still a letdown, even some shit mentioned in the files like they did with the teams after the game would have been nice.
>>343587014
>>343586863
Can confirm 3. Second had one die as 1.
Do you have to solve the toolbox in the trash disposal or can I skip?
>>343590891Am I retarded for never noticing that name before?
>>343590987
You have to. Those puzzles were the worst.
Carlos totally likes men. I mean, come on.
Eric has Mira
Junpei has Akane
Sigma has Diane
Carlos has...his sister? Totally gay
>>343591064
>>343590987
what
those puzzles are easy as fuck
just place the big pieces first
>>343590912
I'm not defending every action. I have gripes with the ending and 'twist' in this game especially. But it was never going to answer all the questions, and I will honestly never understand why/how people will/can fool themselves into thinking it would. Also, when you state it goes for any contrarianism, it makes it seem like you just feel this way on any body who has an opinion different to you. It may not be how you view it, but contrarian opinions aren't always wrong.
>>343590987
You need it
>>343590878
>implying i didn't notice that sigma's face was never shown post-abduction
>implying i didn't find those remarks completely suspicious
>>343591063They never use it until the Delta reveal. The only time it'd come up would be if you type in Sean when Eric asks you who killed Mira.
>>343590945
I remember there being a glitch where the save was corrupted if you saved during one of the puzzle rooms
You're fucked
>>343590779
Q is actually Delta in the wheel chair. He's supposed to be in Q team but always offscreen. The devs were trying to pull a HAHA WE NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED HIM Q IN GAME, GO CHECK
sean is the kid with the helmet, he is NOT named Q or called Q in game
nobody literally thinks carlos is gay, there is no hinting at this beyond people reading too deeply into things to fit their own headcanon
no, delta is zero
its pretty retarded, but in the epilogue files it does say she turns herself in and suddenly becomes not a psychopath, so there's that
Why is he so alpha bros?
>>343590948
Yeah. I know. I wanna know what happened to Seven and Lotus famalam
>>343591235
wow you're so smart but you still managed to miss the entire point behind my comment
>>343591248
What the fuck. Fuck this shit.
Im just gonna watch the rest of the game on youtube.
>>343591063
no, its an intentional twist, kind of like sigma being an old man in VLR
>>343591319
Lotus was best girl
>>343590945
the 3DS version is bugged and was never patched
you're fucked
>>343591273
I only had suspicions of gay because he didn't deny it when Junpei asked why he was checking him out (or whatever)
I'm asking if "delta is player" because that segment is called "You are Zero"
And that is very retarded. I didn't see those files.
one last important question
>>343590779
Is the ending where carlos has the gun the final ending?
>>343591404
I know senpai
>>343591627
lol
>>343591627
Why do you keep posting it? Clearly, Uchi dropped the Kyle plot line and isn't going to explain why, which only creates further disappointment for the upcoming Q&A that will obviously not answer anything further.
>>343590672
You're right in saying that 999 is more flawed due to the various reasons you've posted.
However, with 999, I think I can somewhat justify most of the issues that many would have with it by saying that it was the first one in the series, and that there was definitely room for improvement (most of which was done in VLR).
Still, I should correct my previous post. What I meant to say is that while ZTD is very flawed, I enjoyed it as a standalone (which, considering how Uchi got away with NOT revealing many of 999 and VLR's plot points, mostly to cater to newcomers, is at best a "meh" way to go about with it).
However, the fact that this was supposed to be the ending of the series and it turned out the way it is feels like a slap to the face of us longtime fans. I know we had that MGSV/Kojima spammer during the first few days of the game's leak/release, but he does make a salient point when it comes to this game: the way Uchi/Kojima went with resolving a fair number of plot threads was very unsatisfying, especially considering that the respective games are the last in the series.
>>343590703
Aside from the unresolved stuff, Zero's reveal and his motives were just "meh". My thought process during the last 10% of the game was, "That's it? That's how Uchi's going to answer X question or resolve Y plot?"
Like I said, the game as a standalone is really good. It's just that I can't help but feel underwhelmed and wanting more given that it's the last game in the series.
I can't stop thinking about the fact that this could have been more had he just decided to not cater to newcomers.
>>343591627
IT'S REAL!!!!!!He probably means it's our consciousness...
>>343590481
No, it was written by him. When something was answered by someone other than him, there was a note of it.
He also made even more promises in Twitter posts, like that Dio would appear and that you would learn more about Lord Gordain.
>>343591276
Anyone else find it hilarious that the girl who died in a fire kills a firefighter with a fire extinguisher?
>>343591887
Whoa, anon! You should accept that Uchi isn't going to answer many questions that he promised to and you should accept that ZTD is a perfect game!!! If you believe otherwise, then you are a(n) <personal insult here> and should stop posting!I wish we never got ZTD instead of receiving what we did
>>343591627
Fake or not, ether way its bullshit, Kyle was supposed to be there. Akane said his consciousness was "integral for what we are trying to accomplish" when talking about him for the dcom mission.
>>343592060
That one and the chainsaw vs. fireman's axe scene were so stupidly hilarious that I had to stop playing because I had to process what was going on in both situations.
>>343591627
worst part of ztd imo
Would you let Mira take your heart?
>>343592060
And also gets kill by a firefighter with a fire axe
>>343592261
Nah.
Diana though...
>>343592261
Mira and Alice are both my least favorite characters in the franchise so i'll pass.
Now Lotus...
>>343591917
Theres already a "character" for that though ?/blick is what were refereed to in VLR ?/blick is separate from Kyle
>>343592057
The Dio thing says he may appear, not promising. None of these things were promises. They were potentialities.
Who else picked the correct paths on their first playthroughs of 999 and VLR?
>>343592261
Will she fuck me before? If so, yes.
I'd rather Phi tho.
>>343591627
>open ended "however you want to interpret it" bullshit
i take back everything nice i've said about ZTD
>>343592418
>X will be revealed in the 3rd game!
>this was a potential, not a promise!
The mental gymnastics to defend Uchikoshi will forever astound me.Polite sage for responding
>>343592391
clover from either game was worse than both of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4N6GJBApdk
I did a dumb thing
Sorry for the low quality. I didn't wanna waste time encoding this in 1080p because it was just a silly joke. Someone can recreate it in better quality if they feel up for it
>>343592261
i'll stick with diana, she's not a frigid tight ass
So is Gun at Sigma's head pretty much the prisoner's dilemma?
>>343588562
This was the worst offender but I guess it makes sense considering he's the entire reason she's alive
>>343592813
Literally not at all but okay
>>343591072
You can think and claim a character is gay if you want, but I want to say that your argument is ridiculous. Lemme sum it up for you: "he's the odd one out, thus he's gay"...despite there being no narrative reason to give him a love interest. It'd be such a stretch to, considering he's already paired with a couple and there is little to no interactions between the teams.
>>343592551
>The mental gymnastics to defend Uchikoshi will forever astound me
I feel the same way about Kojima.
>>343590912
I wouldn't say it's contrarian. Outside of here, the Uchikoshi defense seems to be the majority view. This is the only place where I've really seen a lot of people calling him on his lies.
>>343592813
No. Prisoner's dilemma is the entirety of VLR. Sacrifices that benefit yourself.
Were there hints in 999 about the importance of the safe to finding the true ending?
>>343593074
That's not really the Prisoner's Dilemma either
>>343592813
No, it's pretty much the trolley problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem
I was hoping there would be more decisions like it.
>>343591627
That's a shame.
There is a small likelihood that Uchi did intend the "Invisible Hand" that guided some of the protagonists' more questionable action was Kyle.
I doubt it, though.
>>343593165
The AB game is pretty much the iterated prisoner's dilemma.
>>343593110
I think you visit the room in one of Clover's bad end routes
Why couldn't Gab be like Pipi from Ever17? ;_;
>>343593272
The AB game is but not "sacrifices that benefit yourself"
>>343590831
What podcast?
>>343592981
Do the majority of people defend Kojima? Many individuals in these threads compare the disappointment of ZTD to the disappointment of MGS:V
>>343593016
That's good. Probably because 4chan is the largest website on the internet that retains any semblance of 'free speech'.
NO SPOILERS PLEASE:
Should I buy this game or a large block of sharp cheddar cheese?
>>343592551
>I also know everybody likes Snake. Dio? I think he will appear in the next too. Although he isn't the man who you know. :)
>I think
>Promise
The mental gymnastics to condemn Uchikoshi will forever astound me. Seriously, he never promised that.
Why is it always ZA WARUDO when Diana has to make a decision?
>>343593414
A large block of sharp cheddar cheese.
>>343593393
Agree
>>343593165
Oversimplification but that's what it boils down to. Diana shooting Sigma on a 50/50 is not that. Prisoner's Dilemma is about potentially sacrificing yourself/your partner for freedom/reduced penalty.
>>343593414
Does the cheese shoot lasers?
>>343593414
Have you played 999 and VLR? Buy the game.
No? Buy the cheese and enjoy.
>>343586761
i
told
you
>>343593414
that depends on whether you want to diana/sigma's son is named delta and he's zero and he's offscreen with q team the whole time but then again i'm not much of a cheese guy
>>343588241
I do too.Because she didn't come back
Come on, it's obvious that the consciousness of Kyle is in the terrorist
>>343593393
>>343593541
different posters (I'm the second and OP). Just want to clarify.
>>343590878
Sigma's age is a much better twist because it makes sense when the game is played through his perspective, it plays together with the teases for when the game takes place, and it's actually a crucial element in the late-game story.
The camera just happened to never show Delta? There's no reason for that to happen. It makes even less sense with how often the camera moves around. For that matter, Delta being offscreen in the same room so much or being Q doesn't seem especially important to the story.
Did C team even mention him at all in the Control Room, when they found glasses that clearly look like his?
>>343593414
depends how fat you are
do you move around on a motorized cart
So in the puzzle room were team Q is in zeros study, they get a second code for the book chair thing after they blow up the safe, team Q said the code is wrong and implies that they probably blew up anther clue in the safe that could of helped with that second book chair thing, the code is not even used for that puzzle at all, why the fuck was it needed?
>>343585674
Its just really weird to see Akane saying that of all people. I thought she was some ascended time god bitch who was all ends justify the means in VLR.
>>343589010
Wait for the Q&A you dumbass
>>343593739
It wasn't. The second clue was just to get a piece of paper that tells you to combine the parts in such a way that it forms a key.
>>343586761
Why the fuck was this guy so quiet in the 3DS version of ZTD.
>>343593739
Look at the dolls in the safe you have to modify the code, all it will give you is how to make the key for the final safe
If you're reading this, you've been in a coma for almost 20 years now. We're trying a new technique. We don't know where this message will end up in your dream, but we hope it works. Please wake up, we miss you.
>replay some stuff from the previous game to refresh my memory
>Akane says that she has no idea about the base or what happened in the same timeline she was shifting all over the mission site
BITCH
PLEASE
>>343593739
I'm trying to follow you, but you should learn how to use a period.
>the code is not even used for that puzzle at all, why the fuck was it needed?
Same thing in the incinerator room. You don't need to do the tool-box puzzle.
Okay so lemme get this timeline straight
999 -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD C-End -> VLR -> ZTD CQD-End 2
Is Sigma the worst father in the history of the multiverse?
>>343593843
Agree. Bitch is the epitome of "The end justifies the means" mentality, and all of a sudden she becomes the moralfag in this team?
Fucking Uchikoshi.
>>343593843
Akane is weird as fuck in ZTD
She CAN shift but doesn't remember she can until like halfway through the game, plus she kind of turns into a shitty Clover clone when her Jumpy dies
Carlos on the other hand is alpha as fuck
Just want confirmation, the ending with Carlos pointing the gun at Delta is the final ending? That and where you choose not to escape.
>yfw there aren't nearly as many Decisions in the Decision game as you expected
typing names and passwords are not moral dilemmas
>>343594063
Just because he has two shitty sons doesn't make him a bad father.
>>343594172
Yes
>>343594082
Yeah I get that Junpei forgets everything in the VLR ending path but the events of ZTD kind of cause a disconnect for me as far as Tenmyoji realizing Akane is a heartless bitch in VLR.
>>343593926
>wait for more lies, you <personal insult here>!I wish 4chan wasn't full of literal underage newfags ;_;
>>343594175
agree. i was thinking it was gonna be a bunch of scenarios like the trash disposal room. except it ended up being just that, the initial team vote, and the yellow shower button pretty much.
>>343594013
Sorry pretty tired so my grammar is bad atm. Oh i get you, I assumed the second library code was just there for no reason but its just a different path to solve the puzzle?
TFW could have stopped the radical six outbreak but instead did nothing
>>343589429
>Do you think the firefighter that lives to save lives killed someone when given the option
>>343594315
ZTD's ending is essentially 999's, where it has an ending with the plotholes being explained in the Q&A
VLR was a fuckfest so don't base your expectations off it or its Q&A
>>343594224
It's his fault, though.
>>343594063
how? kyle is his clone, not a son, so he has no obligation to give a shit. phi and delta were born under the most fucked circumstances, transporting them so a different version of them had a chance at a normal life was the best he could do.
i do find it a little suspect that he never mentioned to phi "hey, i had a daughter named phi..." at some point after old sigma and phi met up in ZTD, but who knows, maybe that's a common name in the future
>cleared all quest rooms
>still missing one quest item
Send help
>>343594385
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Had issues, but overall I enjoyed it.
Kinda pissed that they left shit open for another game/story, though. Who knows, maybe ZTD does super well...
>>343594385
Did anyone besides Akane, Sigma and Phi actually know what Radical 6 was though?
>>343594490
probably the fucking pointless key diagram in the library
>>343594603
>kinda pissed
>contradicts the statement in the next sentence
This takes true talent.
>>343594385
>Could of stopped everything
>They call him out
>Says he didn't go earlier because he then wouldn't have met them
>reason makes zero sense
>Junpei and Akane lose there shit
couldn't stop laughing at this ending.
>>343594175
>>343594339
C team had the lion's share of actual dilemmas, outside of the shared vote/button ones
Q team had the standoff, and D team had the incinerator, and that was it, right?
Kinda weird how skewed it was imo
>>343594385
He came so close to being the hero.
>>343594132
While I don't usually bother being, well, bothered by Akane, the whole Clover thing annoyed me.
For example, it was still uncertain what happened to Junpei after Carlos betrays him during the AB game--she couldn't have listened to the whole thing but she goes ahead and murders Carlos right on the spot. Feels almost like a cheap way of forcing a game over.
>>343594382
>>343593739
It's okay, dude. I had to look that up since I mis-interpreted "shift down 7" --- I was convinced it was c 00 00. It actually meant "go up 7 places" (ie: 05 -> 12)
>>343594459
I don't think he knew of a daughter in that particular timeline
>>343586764
She was more implying that if M1 replaced M2, then M2 got the shitty timeline. Since SHIFT requires life threatening danger, most of the times they shift, they're sending their self from the timeline they're entering to their deaths.
>>343594490
sort notes by room and look for ???s, mine was a note on the floor of the pod room
>>343594785
On the other hand, Akane's crazy face is pretty hot.
Please pay no attention to ZTD Akane
I taught her how to keikaku wrong, as a joke
>>343586776
I got it on the second.
>>343594708
Yup, never decoded that second code. I was surprised it just let me finish doing nothing with it. How do you go down 7 from 05 and 03?
>>343594681
I doubt even the fucking writers know what radical-6 was. The virus origin came from this base and they don't even explained how it was made/who made it.
it's weird to me that other people thought akane was hot, i thought she was just annoying. i was all over mira though
>>343594717
Because ZTD was barely scrapped together, you'd think they would try to put a bow on the whole thing.
But if their gambit pays off and this one does well on it's own, then I guess I don't have any reason to be upset.Quite the dilemma...
>>343594281
Thanks
Anyone else pissed about the aliens? Or that war game in the transporter room? Or how Sigma and Luna just accepted it?
Pretty big cop out imo. I did enjoy the game, but fuck.
>>343594459
the sigma who fathered phi was not the sigma in VLR, they're from entirely different timelines
he probably didn't want to shift and leave his family behind, so it's assumed that he starved and died in the shelter,
>>343594385
His fuck-up did allow the events in VLR to happen though
How do you react to people who claim there's absolutely no need to play 999/VLR since ZTD is so newcomer friendly?
>>343594798
I just ignored the second library code, I thought it was needed for later on in the puzzle and just forgot about it, then the puzzle ended and was like "fuck i didn't even need that second library code"
So we all agree
Carlos > Diana > Young Yoko Taro
>>343594385
so the reason why he didnt do anything was because he wanted Akane and Junpei to recognize him?
>>343594992
18+ kiddo.
>>343595006
Yeah, really hope the aliens thing is just a ruse and it turns out to be technology from the future sent to the past or some bullshit.
Or more Ice-9 ancient Egyptian level of malarkey
>>343595006
the war game wasn't even needed to solve the math problem, it was only there to help you if you're a retard
>>343595000
>if the game sells well, then everything wrong with the game is a-okay!
Why even have this opinion? I don't understand the (lack of) logic.
>>343595016
Or he killed himself to feed his family long enough to send Diane, which failed.
>>343595069
>since ZTD is so newcomer friendly?
On literally what fucking planet
