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When it comes to price/performance, the RX480 (8GB) can't be beat at $199 USD.
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Benchmarks are coming out now.
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>>343187248
>>343187445
Yes, it's disappointing. We know already.
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>>343187248
>>343187445
>>343188413


>cant even get 60fps on a fucking I7 7600K

HGAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAH AHAH AHAAAAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA LOL
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>>343187248
>>343187445
wtf i hate amd now
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>>343187248
i want something that i can buy a second of in 5 years and run them both together and actually have good performance on pretty much all games that need it, and crossfire is shit
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Remember when it was supposed to match the 1070 after OC?
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>>343187248
So better than 970 and 390 but worse than 390x and 980?

Arent the benchmarks confirming what we all knew?

For 200 bucks its a good deal.
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if you want price/performance buy a console
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>>343188630
Why? For as little as 500 bucks you can make a pc that rapes a ps4.
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>>343188738
sure
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>>343187248

Yeah, stuck back in the path, its on par with a 970 while the 1070 is on par with a Titan X for half the price.

AMD is a laughing stock.
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>>343187248
>RX480 (8GB) can't be beat at $199 USD
Except it's not $199.
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>>343188738
enjoy getting raped by people with better internal response times, enjoy not playing anything higher than 1080p all mediums, enjoy your blue screens kiddo.

>>343188797
Titan X isn't a gaming card, numbnuts. being on par with the titan X isn't a feat.
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>>343188738
>for double the price of a ps4 you can build a pc that rapes ps4
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>>343188630
>console
>price/performance
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>>343188625
Nvidia shills don't care. That's why they're shills, no point in arguing with them. They're probably the ones who posted fake benchmarks to overhype it to something it wasn't supposed to be.
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Take your hardware threads to /g/ We don't need your shit here
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>>343187248
>can't be beat
>beat
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>>343189001
$250 with a game thinks its bad deal when pc built for that price cant do the same
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I HAVE A //= WITH ONLY " GB SHOULD I UPGRADE SOON
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>>343188797
>1070 with custom cooler
>vs titan x with only the stock cooler
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>i-it's a-almost as fast a GTX 970!
You did it AMD. Congratulations, and welcome to modern last gen performance!
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I'm just so proud of them. The process shrink has just made such a difference.
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WHAT HAPPEN GUYS

this was the day we were meant to counterattack and kill the nvidia
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Shit's pretty much sold out online and my local Fry's hasn't even gotten it in yet.

Does Best Buy get this kind of shit too?
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>slower than 970
>costs the same in europe
amd is finally finished
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I don't think any of us 100 years ago could ever have predicted AMD would actually pull it off. They're back baby!
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Tell me why I should buy a 480 instead of a 970.
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>>343189489
Maybe but it would be reference garbage. Just wait.
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amd wins
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>>343189692
The RX 480 just completely slaughters the 970 on some benchmarks, just look at this massacre! And with AMD, you know the drivers and support will be second-to-none.
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>>343189489
>frys
where do you live anon
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>>343189692
make your own fucking decisions
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>>343188926
>blue screens
>multiplayer anything
>demanding 4k meme on a budget card

Are nvidiot shills that desperate? Of course a budget card is for 1080.
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>>343189927
Fuck off retard
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>>343189920
Austin Texas friend.

I've got the rest of the week off, so if I'm going to get it I'd rather just buy it in person.
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>>343189875
The extra noise is also a big advantage for Team AMD, it'll help drown out any fighting cats nearby or when your parents come down to ask when you're getting a job, dramatically improving your gaming experience.
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>With Tom's Hardware reporting that the RX 480 draws (substantailly) more than the 75W allowed from the motherboard (for example, the PCI Express high-power card spec allows a mazimum of 66W to be drawn from the 12V pins of the PCI Express slot, and the RX 480 averages 79W from the 12V lines alone) AMD seems to be violating the PCI Express(R) spec. Of course, I'd love to see HardOCP try to duplicate Tom's results.

>According to the licensing contract for the spec, if they do not fix this within 3 months, AMD will NOT be able to call the card a PCI Express card. If they do, they face not only litigation, but if my understanding is correct an action before the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) to ban the importation of the card as counterfeit goods. You might think the PCI-SIG will give AMD a pass, but if they do, they risk loosing the trademark entirely. An unforced trademark gets invalidated. The SIG won't let that happen.

>So what does this mean to the consumer? I think there are two possibilities, if we assume AMD will not choose to remove the PCI Express logos from these cards: Either they will alter the boards to have an 8-pin socket and to pull more power from there, or they will neuter the card to ensure it doesn't draw more power than the PCI Express specification allows. I don't see any other options.
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>>343188779
>>343188926

>build PC for around 500 burgerbucks
>can still play nearly all games at 60 fps
>shitpost in epeen comparing amd/nivdia threads because retards have to waste 1K+ to stroke their egos in speccy threads
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D-do you guys t-think Nvidia still has any hope? I've always liked them but now I'm scared, bankruptcy seems so close.
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>>343188614
And yet 2x480 beat a 1070 while costing 200$ less
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Can you build a computer around the GTX 1070 for less than $1000 or should I just settle with this?
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>>343187248
>>343187445
>1080p
>Not even close to 60fps
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>>343190551
>thinks multi-gpu is a straight improvement over a single stronger one
You don't have to pretend consolefriend, we know you haven't done much PC gaming yet or built your own system. We're glad you care though!
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>>343189856
>Make a GPU that costs $50 and runs games with barely 20fps
>Performance per dollar is great it's best card ever!

See how stupid you are?
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Show men an Nvidia card that costs $199 is as fast as OC 970 has 8GB of VRAM and full support of DX12.

Oh wait you cant.

Guess amd wins again...
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Jesus fucking Christ I'm so tired of Nvidia and AMD fags fighting over this
Can someone just tell me if I should upgrade to the new AMD card when it comes out or just get the most recent Nvidia card
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>>343188738
I hate people that try to persuade others to build a $500 "console - killer". At that price range the PC is shit, not even close to midrange. The games that come out aren't equally optimized so the comparison/argument is stupid.
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>>343191073
Depends on your current config and amount of money you are willing to put into this
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>>343191073
Depends on what you have right now.
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>>343190570

Settle with this. 1070's are "daddy's money"-tier.
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>>343190570
>>343191271
Or he can just wait for the 1060...
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>>343191314
What if the rumour ends up being true and the 1060 only has 3 fucking VRAM? That'd suck.
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>>343191073

How much money you wanna spend?

200ish: Get the 480
400ish: Get the 1070
just fuck my wallet up: get the 1080
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>>343190570
I would say wait for GTX 1060 or 490 for to get a good $300-$350 card, assuming you live in the US
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>>343191370
There is a 3 and 6GB version of those rumors yo uare saying are true
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>>343191073
NVIDIA cards have several advantages that you may or may not find important. They run cooler, they use less electricity and they have CUDA cores. The first two prevent your room from becoming a sweltering shit hole and driving up your electricity cost on two fronts. The CUDA cores can be used to speed up 3D rendering if you wanted to get involved in the whole 3D rendering scene.
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>>343191370
3 or 6
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>>343191073
>Can someone just tell me if I should upgrade to the new AMD card when it comes out or just get the most recent Nvidia card
Here you go anon:

Odd: Get Nvidia
Even: Get AMD

https://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=1&max=10&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new
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>/v/ creams itself over GTX 970
>AMD delivers the same level of performance for 130 less usd
>waah it's bad
Holy shit you guys are stupid. It's meant for people who didn't upgrade in a long time and want to stick with 1080p 60fps.
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>>343188926

>Titan X isn't a gaming card

It sure as fuck isn't a workstation card, thats for sure.
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>>343188486
>>343188413
>>343188527
>>343188797
>>343189347
>>343189480
>>343189486
>>343189614
>>343189875
>>343190173
Hey guys what's that 200$ or less nVidia card that beats the 480 called again? I can't seem to remember.
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>>343187248
Is this the new AMD strategy of leading from the Bankruptcy court?
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>>343191231
>>343191252
I got an AMD A6-5200 (I think) and like 8 gigs of RAM
Pretty outdated. I just wanna be able to play Escape from Tarkov whenever it comes out, man
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>>343187248
But why would i need a new graphics card when
UNLIMITED GRAPHICS is coming out soon?
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>>343190312
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How is AMD even still in business? This is embarrassing.
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>>343191506
>/v/ creams itself over GTX 970
Yeah, when it came out 2 years ago, before the 3.5 fiasco and before the 390
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My 770 is still fine right? I'm not sure if it's time yet.
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>>343191073
Also depends on where you live too
Pricing is pretty fair in the USA, costing significantly less than a 970
I dont live in Europe, but it seems like AMD messed up the pricing there because apparantly the 480 actually costs more than a 970 there. Might have something to do with the Euro/Pound getting killed in value, but idk, might just be a messup on AMD's part
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>>343191521
I don't think it will actually be 200$. If nvidia goes for the 250-300$ 1060 GTX it could very likely beat it with the price performance
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>>343191506
>Le its perfectly fine for 1080p 60
You buy this you are set for 2 maybe 3 years in 1080p.

You buy a 1070 you are set for fucking life on full HD
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>>343191521
It's called not being a poorfag.
Also my meme card cost 100$ more in October 2014. I think the 100$ for enjoying the 480 level performance for the past two years was worth it.
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not vidya
>>>/g/
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>>343189576
Basically this
Pack it up
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>>343191521
>$200 or less
Hey what's that artificial condition AMDfags have to use to in order to justify their shitty cards called again?
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>>343191521

970s are nearly $200
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GUYS GUYS......i went ahead and bought one.......testing shit out now
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>>343191546
I would say go for 480 if you don't plan on upgrading the CPU
Also it's a laptop processor, how did you even manage to get it
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>>343191810
holy SHIT you madman post some shit in this thread then
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>>343191637

I don't know you dumb nigger, you tell me. You own the fucking card retard, play some fucking games with it. Do you think it's fucking fine? Do you like the performance you've been getting in recent games? If not than sure upgrade it you fucking cock wrangler. Otherwise hold onto it fuckboy.
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>>343190312
[citation needed]
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seriously is /v/ this poor?
I get this card is interesting for people who play LoL or BF/CoD now and then.
But for "core" gaming?
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>>343191637
Pretty much. I have a GTX 670 and still don't really want to upgrade.

>>343191675
Well the 960 didn't beat the 285, and the 480 is way better at price/perf so I doubt we'll see that this year.

>>343191687
>if I pay more I get better
Wow, yeah, fuck AMD.

>>343191735
>no counter-points
>resorts to generic meme insults

>>343191739
Yes nearly, and yet only the OC editions which aren't nearly 200$ actually beat the 480.
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>>343191865
Giving witcher 3 ago first. Will post some shit. Coming from a r7 370 so big ass upgrade for me.
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>>343191739
But they perform worse and choke on games that need more VRAM which is most new released games
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>>343191868
don't bully me!
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>>343191739
Maybe used ones on ebay. The retailers in my area are still selling 300 dollar new and 270 dollars for a used/open box
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>>343191924
>I have a GTX 670 and still don't really want to upgrade.
Maybe you should try playing more modern games
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>>343191924
>if I pay more I get better
A 100$ discount in two years is mindblowing how?
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>>343191930
I'm curious on this game at 1080p. If this card can't run 60fps on every game for the next few years on at least high maybe I'd be better going overkill on
a 1070?
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>>343191739
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049&IsNodeId=1&Description=gtx%20970&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30
Can't find a single one.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203818&Tpk=rx%20480&ignorear=1

>$239

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can buy a 970 for that already! This is what people were waiting for? A 970 with more RAM? No one is going to be using one of these at a resolution where all that RAM matters.

What a waste of money.
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>>343192196
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Is this one fucking person?

I swear on /g/ and here there is one retards spamming this fucking HAHA
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>>343192319

Nope! There's just enough of us that aren't retarded to have bought into any of this AMD bullshit. Sorry, friend!
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>>343192319
yeah, welcome to 4 chan, if you saw something similar, it's from the same neetkun
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>exceeds the GTX 980 according to marketing
>benchmarks come out
>literally only outperforms the 980 in Fire Strike and Ashes of Singularity, a benchmark and a game people only play to see how their rigs handle DX12

Congrats on achieving 970 tier performance and power efficiency AMD, only took 2 years.
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>>343192152
GTA V runs at around 50FPS, dips to 30 in explosions like once. Skyrim with a fuckton of mods runs at nearly constant 60. I believe if I tried Witcher 3 my PC would shit itself, but I can count by the fingers of my hand the games that are unplayable on a GTX 670.

>>343192156
I don't understand your point, it seems like you're contradicting yourself. You can find OC versions of the 970 that beat the 480, yet those cost more - not mindblowing to assume a considerably more expensive card beats it, is it?
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>>343192170
Well i just tried it on 1080p. I upscaled it to that. Since i run at 1600x900. I'm hitting 55-60FPS on Ultra, with AA on. HBAO+. Only have DOF and Motion Blur off cause i hate that shit. So far so good.
GPUz. I should probably restart after having installed drivers. But fuck it ill do it later.
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>>343192319
using haha dethroned lol on facebook
it will replace top kek here soon too
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>>343192196
3.5gb vs 8gb
The answer is clear, mr shill
I say this as a 970 owner
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>>343192389
>>exceeds the GTX 980 according to marketing
When did AMD ever say this?
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>>343191739
nvidrones on suicide watch, they always say 970, nigga its $50 more
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>>343189614
>>343189480
>>343189347
>>343189875
>playing at 1440p

lel thats some gay ass shit
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>>343192485

Who gives a fuck? It's a card that you could've had since 2014, minus the RAM.

I say this as someone who doesn't tie myself down to a single GPU manufacturer. Get the fuck out of here.
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>>343192416
>I don't understand your point
Obviously.
I bought my 970 G1 for 396$ two years ago.
AMD is now offering me virtually the same performance for 308$. Those prices are direct conversions from our currency.
So a 88$ discount on performance I had for the last two year doesn't seem particularly exciting.
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>Card does exactly what it was advertized to do
>Woooooow, AMD is terrible, it doesn't even fit my headcanon where the 480 was meant to beat the 980!
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>>343192485
Honestly though, you're better off buying the 4GB version @ $200. The 8GB version is absolutely worthless and only exists to fleece people who buy into the VRAM/Higher numbers marketing as it doesn't help with performance at all at higher resolutions >>343189614

A card that performs that bad has no use for VRAM that high.
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>>343192624

>970

As a 290x owner i've had that level of performace since 2013. These days my 290x now fights a 980.
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What you have to realize is that a lot of people have the 970. It being the #1 card on Steam for example.
And a lot of the AMD fans are sitting on the 290(X) or Fury series

There is literally no reason at all to buy a 480 when they have one of the mentioned cards above. Even older cards like 960, 770 is not even worth the upgrade.

If people want something new and refreshing there is literally only the 1070 and 1080 available right now.

The 480 is at best a card for people that does not already have a computer like console players.
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>>343192624
>Who gives a fuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
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>>343192663
it's not about amd, it's about baiting other fishers
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>>343192782
i have a 280x. should i upgrade?
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>>343192468
>12_0
Well, that's disappointing.
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>>343192785

Bad game to test, and I say this as a AMD owner. There is a problem that DICE hasn't patched involving Hyper level shadows on nVidia cards. I'm kinda mad, because it's shit like this that just shows there's no clear winner, since every benchmark is skewed in favor of one way or the other.
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>"It's shit"
>"Yeah but it's CHEAP shit"
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>>343192782
What about cards like the 960 and the 750TI? Those are the most used cards behind the 970
Would a 480 be worth the upgrade assuming they are going to be playing 1080p?
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>>343192782

Roughly 85% of the market has a card around as fast as a 960 or slower. For these peopel a 480 is a good upgrade.

>>343192974

Nobody supports every feature of DX12 - in fact Intel has higher support for certain things than both AMD and Nvidia.
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>>343192782

>Have 760
>Practically every game I want to play has stuttering at some point.
>Drives me insane.

So do I need windows 10 for a dx12 card? If so that might be a deal-breaker.
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>>343192782
nah it's the perfect upgrade from poorfagcard aka 70ti
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>>343192785
Same issue as AMD's flagship, the Fury X, because it only has 4GB of VRAM.

Defend this, AMD drones.
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>>343193125
You need W10 for DX12 modes, but if the games ahs a DX11 renderer you're fine.
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>>343192416
I run 670

Arma 3 runs like shit on most settings
Warhammer Vermintide is on 40-50 fps regardless of settings
Cities:Skylines dip into 20 fps after 6 thousand citizens
XCOM 2 is in the 40-50 territory even on lowish settings
Siege is only playable on lows
Doom 4 doesn't even run at 60 on minimals
Battleborn also ran like shit during beta
Most UE4 games don't run good, unless on med/low. Some don't run 60 even with lows
Tomb Raider is unplayable
Dark Souls dips into 50 sometimes, regardless of settings
Latest Total War games also run and look like shit
Far Cry 4 is on 50 fps max regardless of settings
CoH 2 can dip to 40 on 3 or more players with mid/lows
I can go on, but you get the gist. Some of them are badly optimized, some are more CPU bound, but having a better GPU would at least get me 60 fps on settings I run now. Most of those games are not even that modern.
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>>343193125

DX12 is windows 10 only because thats how MS rolls.
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>>343187248
Or is it? 970 performance for maybe $40 less? Whoa, hold yer horses, m8, that will really show nvidia cucks.
It maybe it's half the price of 1070 but it's also only half the fucking performance, how could they fail so hard?
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>>343193150
>$800 AMD card can't run Mirror's Edge on hyper settings

L M F A O
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>>343193109
I know, but it's a new card, good reason to implement a few things. Less cards support it, less chances we will see it implemented anywhere outside of GameWorks titles
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>>343193039
So every car ever is shit because it is not a Lambo or a Ferarri?
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>>343193039
>970 / 390 performance is now considered shit
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>>343193125
You don't need W10 for a DX12 card
You only need it for DX12 itself
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>>343193243
need gwaphix for a running simulator zozzle
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>>343193295
If you're not the best then you can fuck off like the rest.
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>>343192661
But how is this bad? If they were charging the same or just a little less I'd get it, but offering slightly better (the 480 does beat the reference 970 in everything I've seen, even Gameworks stuff, and beats a 980 in DX12 titles) performance for almost 100$ less and with better efficiency is bad? What did you expect?
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>mfw waiting for aftermarket 4gb card and have to read all this shitflinging and shitposting

I know I'm poor just let me wait for it

>buying reference
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>>343193109
>Roughly 85% of the market has a card around as fast as a 960 or slower.
Nigga roughly 85% of the market runs integrated graphics.
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>>343193246

For what its worth 12_1 exists mostly to overcome Nvidia's shortcomings.
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>>343187248
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01H3P9CKI
$375 - only offer on Amazon, ahahahahaha
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>>343192782
This post makes too much sense. I think you are in the wrong thread
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>>343193251
well if you're into cars, you care about the qualities of them. thing is cars can have qualities apart from pure speed.
GPUs only have speed, so yes, it's shit unless it's fast
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>AMD is back !!!
>... back to 2014
It's funny AMD fanboys wonder why the majority buy Nvidia. RX480 has same power consumption as 1080. How is that even fucking possible?
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>>343193413
just close your eyes nigga
or walk away from the screen
or just fuck close the thread
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>>343193543
no it doesn't, it's a separate feature level(several feature bundled together) that may allow for for some interesting stuff.

nVidia weakness is binding tiers and "async", 12_1 has nothing to do with it
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>>343187248
>all these graffix fags argueing whose color is superior

Come on guys, its not about red or green its about destroying console performance with a 200 dollar card.
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I have a 1GB GTX 650, so whether I wait for the 1060 or a better RX 480, it's win-win from here on out.

Lucky I didn't get the 970.
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>>343193724
I think the choice between 1060 and 480 will depend on how they fare on DX12 and Vulkan.
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>>343193672

eh I got nothing better to do at 2am except save cute anime girls and read shitposting.
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>>343188413
>highest performance/price on the market
>disappointing
about 50% more fps per dollar compared to a 1070
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>>343193724
>win-win
until you realize almost all new games are shit :^)
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I got a Radeon 7990, should I upgrade to the 1070?
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>>343187248
$200? Not quite.

Add:

$370 for an air conditioner (since that AMD will increase your room's temperature by a lot)
$50.000+ for possible housefires that will burn your entire property
A monthly $50 for the Internet connection you need to seek the drivers for that bad card
Monthly $80 for psychological support that you'll need when you get bullied for using AMD
an extra $3 per month because AMD consumes more electrical power since it is so non-efficient

In the end you are spending like around 51.000 on that card, congratulations.
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>>343193786
I'm happy to wait it out and see how they stack up, the shitposting makes for quality entertainment in the meantime.

>>343193894
There's always at least one that makes it all worth it.
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>>343193593
>RX480 has same power consumption as 1080
You know that's a blatant lie, right?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,5.html
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>>343193983
well memed. I give it a 3.5/8
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Bought 8gb version this morning to replace my pretty dated 660ti.

Benchmarks all look fine to me. It can play all the games I can enjoy at max and didn't break the bank.
Which is exactly what I was looking for.
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>>343193983
xD upboat
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>>343193983
wtf i hate amd now
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>>343193593
>Own a card thats pre-2014
>Can finally play games at 1080p and get 60fps to boot!

This card was never marketed toward enthusiasts who spend 600 dollery doos on a new card ever year or so. I think it falls right where it needed, the people that have dated cards that don't want to wait another two years for price drops on cards that can already do 1080p60.
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>>343194015
Oh sorry, its less than 20 watts difference and does take more than the 1070.
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Leave GPU-kino to me.
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>>343193189
4570k + evga gtx 670

this guy is full of shit

the only games i've ever had fps issues with was dolphin pre 5.0

by the way, everyone, download the new 5.0

i cannot believe i'm getting 60 fps @ 4k with 8xSMAA on this old hag, but she is pulling through and the results speak for themselves
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>>343194219
Yes, you lied, we know. Moving on now.
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>>343193973
Guys?
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>>343193687
yeah if only it were superior in any other way. even controller supported games need you to get up and use your mouse to click okay on dialogs and separate configuration programs dont work with controllers either (sonic generations comes to mind). boy i sure do love installing fan patches just to play dark souls with a camera resolution higher than 240p or having four separate software clients just to play all my videogames. sure while pc has multimonitor support its broken, every other game opens only on monitor 0 so you need to turn it off anyways. and once you do the game cant find monitor 0 so refuses to start because settings dont match or some shit (also sonic generations for an example). seems like not even singleplayer games are designed to allow you to get comfortable at all. always have to sit in an uncomfortable office chair and wait until you get into a game before you can even lay back down for fucks sake
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I hear people saying we can't notice the difference between 30 and 60 fps.

But when I'm playing WoW I can notice the difference between 120 fps vs 60 fps or under
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>>343194260
what the fuck happened to my picture? it looks like it went from 32 to 24 bit? the colours are all messed up?
im comparing it to the emulator?

let me try in full screen
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>THIS CARD IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING
>It doesn't
>It turns out to be a dud
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>>343194329
just do it faggot who gives a shit
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>>343194329
It depends on what resolutions and framerates you're going for. GTX 1070 is built for 1440p or 144hz gaming. If you have a monitor like that then go for it. If you're playing at 1080p 60fps, then the 1070 is overkill.
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How much does it cost for you fellow eurocucks? Seems to be about 300€ here which is exactly same as 970.
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is an i5 4690k unclocked fine for the 480x?
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>>343194338
>hurrr steam big picture doesnt exist
It alleviates 95% of the problems you mentioned. Only outliers that are old as fuck dont work with it and really you shouldnt be using a controller with those to begin with.

>his console cant play games from 2002 or earlier without re-buying them
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>>343194423
whatever i do, whenever i save the picture in paint, the image quality reduces by TONS

the colours are so fucking BAD

its so much softer in the emulator? what is this?
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some how this card runs meme ark at 40-50frames on the high preset and 60fps when it rains.....interdasting....
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>AMD caught up to the 970
>AMD fags are classing this as a victory

Literally how?
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>>343189239
>pay to play online

you console cucks can never argue around that
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>>343194260
>i cannot believe i'm getting 60 fps @ 4k with 8xSMAA on this old hag

1920x1080 screenshot
30 fps

kek. Enjoy lying about your 60fps at 4k you nvidia shill.
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>>343194714
>its so much softer in the emulator

what do you even mean? do you mean warmer colors? If so you might be using flux
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>>343194727
It's not "catching up", the R9 390 was already the same price as the GTX 970 but performed the same as or better in every game.
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>>343194691
of course it is, RX480 is a 2014 card. If your CPU is 2014 you'll be fine
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I've always used Nvidia and unlike all the faggots that shill products on /g/ I have to say that the 480 looks good but as a 970 owner I see no reason to buy this.

price in 'straya, cunt.

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/35886/msi-radeon-rx-480-8gb

What I have price/perf is better on the 480 but not by much.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/29086/msi-geforce-gtx-970-gaming-4gb
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>>343194696
IM TALKING ABOUT WITH BIG PICTURE MODE YOU LYING FUCKFACE
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>>343193574
In what ways is a Subaru/Nissan/whatever the fuck inferior to a Lamborghini?
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>>343194727
>>AMD caught up to the 970

You act as if AMD didn't already beat the 970 back when they had the 390.
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>>343194691
the 4690 is fine for basically everything. it's still a really powerful cpu for gaming.
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>>343188853
The 4 GB version is.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202222
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>>343194818
>what is internal resolution

Hey buddy you just blow in from stupid town?
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>>343194678
300 for reference
330 for the XFX
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>>343192503
I'd pay fifty dollars more for drivers and software that isn't absolute shit.
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>>343194908
It automagically switches default monitorsso games open on the correct screen. It has a keyboard so you can still input text when needed. All you need is a mouse for that 5%
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>>343192152
>playing modern games
>when everything worth playing stopped coming out 3-4 years ago

How are you enjoying the Division, CoD, etc?
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>>343194862
>>343194930
>performed the same as or better in every game.
>didn't already beat the 970 back when they had the 390.
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>>343194727
Because "muh price to dollar amount"
They think it's cool that a GTX 970 that is two years old can be equaled by a brand new card that is 80 bucks cheaper because now the 970 is price reduced due to 1070
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>mfw asus 970 with a decent cooler is $240 on newegg
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>>343195035
Have you been living under a rock during the entire past generation of cards?
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>>343194946
You're not fooling anyone. Get a 4k monitor with 4k resolution, then come back and argue about 4k. Otherwise, you're just in 1080p.
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>>343194714
no the colours in the emulator just look a ton more natural, its probably hard for you to see but the other pictures have such a heavy GREEEEEN tint, its awful

the emulator is a lot warmer and softer in between the colours

i just checked the properties of my pictures, they really ARE 24 bit!

im downloading something called 7capture, i hope this helps
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serious question, why the hell are people still using 1080p monitor in the year 2016? you guys realize that 1440p monitor is the new standard?
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>>343192483
Truly, it is the audible laugh term that neets love most.
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>>343194678
~300eur (330usd) here in Czech Republic if converted from our monopoly money

exact same price as 970
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>>343195128
Not even the same guy anon, but downsampling exists and has been popularized on /v/ ever since shank souls 1
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>>343195169
Budget.
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>>343195035
390 beats the 970 in like 90% of all games. You must be a fool to ignore all the evidence.
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>>343195169
It's not the new standard though, at all. If you look at steam hardware survey, only like 2-3% of people are playing at resolutions higher than 1080p. It's a niche market for niche memers.

No one wants to spend $400 on a graphics card and another $400 on a new monitor just so they can play console ports (which were designed to run on $200 hardware) at 1440p.
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>>343195157
use IrfanView or download Photosop portable.

Or you're using the incorrect color profile.
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>>343195169
Because 4k will wipe floor with 1440p soon.
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>>343195169
>1440p monitor is the new standard
But it's not.

1080p is until something happens to 4k.
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>>343194727

Because they are deluded fucking Drones.
Couple days back they were claiming 1080 performance and beating the 980 easy mode.
Now they eat shit from the floor and can`t get over themselves because it comes close to 970 performance.
In EU and UK the prices are way to fucking high and not worth it. But overall at 14nm and current gpus on the market its is a fucking joke and shouldve been way better as they claimed.
1060 will literally destroy it at the same competitive price.
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>>343195169
>tfw using a 720p/1080i tv from 2006 for all my gaming
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>>343191739
The 970 is indeed interesting for the current 260€ price point. But what are the benefits?

> nvidia logo
> physx
> 2014-2015 games are optimized for it

what are the drawbacks?

> 3.5gb vs 8gb
> crippled dx12 support
> nvidias eol cards don't receive performance updates

If you enjoy playing past gen games, go for it. But it's most likely that the gpu will suffer a horrible death.
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>>343195242
Only retards believe they are playing in 4k when they have a 1080p screens. It's a placebo effect for retards who don't have actual 4k equipment. These people are idiots that pretend to be elites.
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>>343191521
The 1060
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>>343187248
The division is a CPU based game though :/
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>>343195435
Dropped your glasses?
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>This will be the mainstream king.
>Until July 7th when Nvidia releases the 1060.
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>>343195516
>The division is a CPU based game though

Then why don't you play it with just a Intel processor and no GPU. You're a fucking idiot.
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>>343195435
>look i posted again
I know this is my own fault but I'll bite one last time. Downsampling to achieve a higher IR is a great way to make edges and textures more crisp. It costs as much hardware as true 4k. Theres no difference in compute power required, only the image seen buy your eyes depending on the monitor/tv.

>using AA in 2016
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>>343195432
> crippled dx12 support
> implying a sane person would run win 10
Don't do this to yourself anon
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>>343195581
Enjoy your placebo "4k" you dumb poorfag.
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>>343195668
I run Linux full-time and Windows 10 for gaming, what's wrong with this?
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>>343195668
> using unironically w7
install gentoo
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>>343195169
Most people still use 1080p monitors. 1440 and 2160/4k are far from standard use.
Also, it seems like 4k will eventually become the new standard due to how hard manufacturers are pushing 4k rather than 1440
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>>343195725
What is this toaster? AMD CPU? DDR3? Samsung 830?

Holy shit are you from 2010????
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>>343195753
boogeymans

>>343195725
>i spent money so i must be right
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>>343195816
>A cheap $200 heater that plays games

I'll take 4
I like living on the sun
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>>343195169
Because I have a decent IPS monitor
So my only option is getting a 1440p IPS monitor which is a bit expensive
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>>343195783
w7 is only option for gaming atm .. also for photo editing / music production . I'd like to see anyone outside from /tech/ using linux.. you know the people who value their other hobbies too.
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>>343195783

>he fellf or the win10 meme and the RX480

holy shit kill yourself
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>>343195615
The 1060 might fill the spot for 300-350€ and be in competition with the rx 490. If not they'd need a 1065 to fill the gap.
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>>343195816
Most games will never even reach that temperature since the wattage the card uses is so low. It only goes that high in torture tests.
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Should I just buy a 960 or wait for a non reference 480?
I mostly would want to try out games but I will end up not even play like a good chunk of those. To be honest I don't play even those who I like that frequently, unless the game is really good.
So I don't really want to spend more than 200 eurodollars on a GPU considering that I'm more interested in trying out games, and I often find myself not giving a shit about them anymore.
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>>343196124
Wait for 1060 and see how it compares to 480, then get the better card.
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>>343195860
Don't get me wrong, Windows 10 is bad, that's why I keep it where it belongs: as a purely gaming OS.
>linux lets me remove my fucking kernel if I so wish
>windows won't let me disable updates
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>>343194818
im the poster youre replying to

4k internal resolution, 8x smaa

"VPS represents the amount of frame render requests the emulated CPU sends to the emulated GPU in Dolphin. FPS represents the amount of frames that are actually rendered."

60 frames are called for per second, however only 30 are displayed

same thing that dsfix did

i can turn and twist a few knobs and actually have it output 60 fps (or more), but that would cause glitching, not to mention the game would run at twice or quadruple speed.
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>>343195169
>serious question, why the hell are people still using 1080p monitor in the year 2016?
Because I have 2x high quality 1920x1200 screens, and that's still good enough until the REAL upgrade happens, which to me is 5k. I want 2560x1600 HiDPI (so 5120x3200 true), at least true 10-bit (preferably 12-bit) color, and preferably 90 Hz. All the tech for that is getting very, very close to coming together at long, long last, it'll only be another year or two given that we've already got 5K displays shipping in multiple places, the color is being pushed by UHDTV (hooray for Rec.2020), and VR is pushing refresh.

Since displays are easily the longest lived part of a setup I'm completely fine to wait until they're a true massive leap and then pull the trigger on quality stuff. I've got $6000 waiting, just a little bit more. I'm so happy that at long, long last display tech is moving forward all at once again, there was a huge period of stagnation in the 00s after LCDs became standard where it just sat at the exact same max res, color and refresh in the mainstream and even pro markets.

Fuck I'm pumped. What a great time.
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>>343191637
If you have the 4GB 770GTX you're still fine, if you can play on lower settings if it's not atleast 60 fps.
The 2GB needs some updating, but is still fine if you use a slightly lower resolution on most modern games.
I'd like to see some final Prices in germany for the RX480. The leaked ones were not worth it, but I haven't checked today.
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>>343187248
Console fag here.
I want to build my first PC but I'm also poorfag.

I want to run games in 1080p at a range of 30-60fps in medium-high.
Also I want to get into PS2 and Wii-GC emulation.

Is the RX 480 good enough?
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>>343195169
144hz > 1440p memes.
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>>343195850
>AMD CPU?

Nothing wrong with amd cpu. They've been working great for me for ages.

> DDR3?

No reason to upgrade for me yet. DDR3 isn't that old and DDR4 is fairly new. There's no big jump in performance for me if I upgrade now. Maybe in a few years.

> Holy shit are you from 2010????
Post your specs. And you better not show me some cuck 970.

>Samsung 830?
The higher number Samsung SSDs are actually just rebrands of the 830 with a price increase.

>>343195860
> >i spent money so i must be right

You enjoy your 1080p "4K" while I'll enjoy my 4K.
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>>343196276
Get this https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-bl3201pt-bl3201ph/ and call it a day
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>>343196065
mmhmm
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>>343189347
Something something budget card something something beating $XXX priced card something something NVIDIA BTFO -AMD Shills
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>>343195169
Because I spent my money on the GPU.

Do you want Good GPU + 1080p or Shitty GPU + 1440p?

Pick one.
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>>343194845
im not using flux, that shit is for pussy eyes
i have male alpha eyes
they dont need no shitty tint

also i tried to take a photo with my potato, however, i don't think it furthers my point much. on the far left, is the picture, saved and uploaded. the floorboards looks so much darker, his clothes are darker and the green is darker, it just has worse depth overall

the middle picture is the emulator and the right one is a picture i JUST captured (but DIDNT save, and isnt compressed to 24 bits yet)

how the fuck do i change the image quality paint saves in? i used to be able to do this, now i have no idea
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>>343196434
>get this shitty garbage with no significant advantages over what I've got and that satisfies none of the criteria I'm interested in
Sasuga /v/.
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>more than 300€ for reference RX 480 in Europe

Nope, getting GTX 1070.
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Nvidia is going to get cucked. The battle is fought and won on the low-mid tier range ($100-200), anything more and you are targetting a very small niche market and will be lucky to even claw back your R$T costs.

What AMD needs to do now is to make sure their driver support is up to scratch, so the card "just werks". Then they can mass flog it at your average "gamers" running 1080p on mediums (in a pre-built mind you) and they will be rolling in cash.
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>>343196607
> 7capture

You could of just use snipping tools that's built into windows.
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>>343191231
Got a 280x and was recently gifted a 144fps monitor. Will this suffice?
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>>343196386
Sure, but don't get a fucking AMD CPU.
Get a 4690K (any K series)or better.
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>>343196760
280x is kinda dated. Like two generations ago dated. Get a 480.
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>>343196616
>is a 4k monitor
>is IPS
>is larger than 27-28"
>has same input time / response time as 1920 IPS monitors, if not better
>has built-in scaling for 1920x1080 which most monitors lack
>not good
whoaaaa wtf m9, it's only lacking adobe RGB, but not even all the photog like that. Can you just gtfo if you don't know what you're doing?
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>>343196619
MSI's 480 goes for 350€. Nice competition AMD.
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