DRAGON QUEST
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just finished the first one. despite being short it didn't felt as i dated as i imagined it would.
whats your favorite dragon quest?
whats the last one you played?
Dragon Quest I is still one of the top 10 best NES/Famicom games. And has aged quite well like Zelda 1 did.
My favorite DQ is VIII though.
>>343014318
What'd you play it on?
>>343014318
>whats your favorite dragon quest?
VII
>whats the last one you played?
Heroes.
Waiting for builders, VII remake, VIII remake, and Heroes 2.
>>343014318
What's the best versions of the first 3 DQ games to play?
>>343014946
There's a Dragon Quest Collections on the Wii, not sure where to find a translation patch for it though.
>>343014318
>Favourite DQ
that would be V
the monster recruiting is simply perfect and makes me wish more games did it in the same way
>last played
the last one I played was DQ8 PS2, but since localization is confirmed I'll just play the 3DS version
>>343015231
Might just play them on iOS. They'll be nice for breaks at work.
>>343015231
there's no translation patch for the wii collection
it doesn't even matter since it only had the NES versions and the SNES versions and those are already translated separatedly
7PS1.
3 NES in japanese. It sucked.
>>343014946
Super Famicom remakes for all three. They have translations. Dragon Quest II especially benefits from the bigger resolution and better graphics.
>>343014661
went for the mobile since theres an hour and a half gap in between exams and needed to kill time
>>343015310
watch out for the ios version of 3 tho apparently it has a bug that square enix hasn't bothered to fix
>>343014318410
>>343015643
which race did you pick chen?
>>343015634
Is there a way to switch it to landscape? I can't play this owl game ion portrait mode.
>>343014318
>whats your favorite dragon quest?
Not sure. III, IV, V, or VIII.
>whats the last one you played?
IX. I played through I-IX last year.
I am still playing III
Should I turn my Priest or Wizard to Sage?
>>343016213
not that i know of. you can always emulate them
>>343016475
Making them a Sage will get you every skill they could learn as a Priest or Mage. I'd say change one of your non magic classes into a sage, then turn your priest into a Fighter. Then you have a fighter that can cast heal.
If you really want an overpowered character, make your priest into a thief, grind out thief skills then make him/her a merchant and grid out merchant skills. Then turn them into a fighter. You have one character with every non magic skill in the game. And it only takes a few hours of leveling in the tower above Dharma Shrine.
>>343016475
Most definitely.
>>343016715
>>343016730
Great, thanks
I am still not in the darkness realm though and I heard there's a good leveling place there. Might switch my wizard after she gets BiKill
>>343016340
i remember you. must have been quite the journey.
>>343016475
yes. sage is the better class for both offensive and support magic. watch out tho you can only use the sage item once. after that only the bunny/clown class can become a sage. also remember that your stats get half every time you switch class so dont abuse it. you are better off reading more detailed guides and make sure your equipment didnt screw up your party's personality.
>>343016931
Yeah, it's west of... a town with a name I can't remember. Rimruldr or something. You can find Liquid Metal Slimes there often. By using the Dragoramu spell (think the name is different in English, but it's the spell that turns you into a dragon) you'll one hit every LMS still hanging around in the second round.
>>343017004
>i remember you. must have been quite the journey.
It was pretty fun for the most part.
>>343017128
Also, nearly ready.
>>343017245
thanks for the effort. really appreciate it
>>343014318
You know, I never even noticed the T/Sword thing until people pointed it out a few weeks ago...
Friendly reminder to actually buy a copy of Dragon Quest VII. To ensure more DQ games come over. Its also well worth it since you'll be spending $40 for a game with 150+ hours of gameplay.
Its entirely doable to get DQVII and VIII to sell a million copies in the west, as long as people support it and Nintendo doesn't under print them.
>>343020194
Who is this seed demon?
DQ3 on the Game Boy Color is probably one of my favorite games of all time.
I know the GBC port added some new stuff from the NES, but is there an even better version?
>>343020473
Aira. Or as she's known in the new localization, Aishe.
>>343019403
T/Sword?
>>343020671
>but is there an even better version?
In terms of visuals and audio, the SFC version. But I think the GBC version is basically the SFC version but with a new dungeon, monster medals, and lesser graphics and audio.
>>343021112
The T is a sword in the Japanese Dragon Quest logo. I didn't realize the American logo didn't use it.
>>343021261
i prefer the T personally since the sword kinda makes it seem like it reads dragon ques
3 and 9 are my favorites. I really like making your own party and roleplaying your own adventure more than defined characters
>>343020473
Buy DQ VII to find out!
>>343021693
I am the complete opposite. While I don't hate party creation, I prefer preset characters. It's also one of the reason I am not into wrpg in general
>>343021693
>>343021917
I'm just bad at roleplaying/using my imagination. I focus too much on the gameplay. I'd raher let the devs tell me the story.
>>343020964
Hrrrmmmm bad case of fan art looks way better then the source material.
>>343021917
I'm the same way. Dragon Quest III is really the only game where I liked party creation and it didn't impact the story. Every other game I try, it seems to impact the story. Even games like FFIII where you still have a set story.
I'm hoping the remake of DQVII fixes this problem. It has the potential to be the best story in the series. It just needs better class balancing to improve the flow of the game. And we know the shards have been fixed.
>>343022372
I haven't played the PSX version, so I can't compare, but I know there've been quite a few changes to the jobs and job system, so everything seems to have been re-balanced.
It's funny, I'm one of those people who can play turn based random encounter games for days on end but this is one series I've never actually played once.
>>343021590
or a cross and you know Nintendo
>>343014318
My favourite it the first one. I'm playing IX right now and having a ball though.
>>343022717
I was the same way. Give them a shot, you may like them.
>>343022164
Well I mean DQ has always been Toriyama for the most part so you should have expected something similar to his other designs.
Man, I'm glad I already played DQ VII 3DS and am not interested in Persona 5 of FF XV, or else September would be a hell of a month. As it is I'll get to focus on SMT IV Final.
>>343022717
My first RPG ever was the first Dragon Quest on NES. I hated it and cursed RPGs for 10 years. Until I finally tried stuff like Chrono Trigger and Suikoden and was hooked. Went back and played the DQ games and they became my favorite series in all of gaming.
Its one of those things where you need to be in the right mindset and know what you're getting into. And its not unique to just the west. It took tons of editorials and marketing campaigns to get Japan to even try Dragon Quest. Once they did though, history happened.
8 is probably my favorite just because of how gracefully the series made the transition to a more modern presentation. 5 is right up there though.
As for last played, that would be the android version of 8 which surprisingly works quite well and runs a lot better than it did when it was first launched.
>>343024074
>Its one of those things where you need to be in the right mindset and know what you're getting into
this is so true. ix was my first one and i made so many mistakes because of how unfamiliarized i was with the franchise. didn't hated it but the unnecessary grinding i forced myself into kept me away from trying the others until i gave V a shot and this time the concept clicked. VII is gonna need the right introduction in the west or it may accidentally turn off some players.
>>343024074
>>343024625
Yeah it took time for me too. I played DQ I and I thought it was fine. Not the greatest thing ever, but I kept in mind the time period it came from. It was fine. DQ II was better in many ways (and more annoying in others), but again, it was just okay. I played DQ III and got sucked into the game real fast and quickly became a fan.
Currently playing III sfc version, this shit is great. Getting the gaia sword at the moment. How much of the game would you guys say is left?
>whats your favorite dragon quest?
V
>whats the last one you played
Finally started replaying Monsters 1 after having not played it in years
VIII
Last one I played was VI and I enjoyed it a lot more the second time.
>>343014318
>whats your favorite dragon quest?
DQ7. Even with all the weird pacing issues its one hell of a emotional rollercoaster that kept me going.
>whats the last one you played?
DQ2. I respect it for what it tried to do but fuck me that game is just annoying to play.
Currently playing through dq5, I'm coming up to the marriage but none of the girls really interest me. Nera is definitely the worst, but I can't really decide between Bianca and Deborah.
>>343028954
Deborah if you want the best partychat and a good Physical attacker
Bianca is pretty much middle ground between Deborah and Nera in both Partychat and combat usefulness
Already played all of them to death. Any rom hack to make them feel fresh again?
>>343029085
I heard she is kind of a bitch in party chat? How bad is it? I don't mind banter, but I don't really want to marry the hero off to a cunt, hes had a hard life.
>>343027225
Milly best girl.
>>343028584
>DQ2. I respect it for what it tried to do but fuck me that game is just annoying to play.
>>343025895
>DQ II was better in many ways (and more annoying in others)
is it really that bad? i don't have a lot of patience
>>343028954
Deborah is a straight Tsundere and you get a ton of money for choosing her or Flora/Nera. Bianca is more of a gentle tomboy, but you don't get money.Neither choice really matters a few hours after you get married.
>>343029286
u wot m8?
>>343029271
she softens up as the game goes on, but it's clear that she's the one wih the pants on the relationship
it's good if you want some laughs
>>343029271
>I heard she is kind of a bitch in party chat? How bad is it?
For much of the game, your relationship with her is that you are her property. I wouldn't say she's a bitch to you, it's just that she's a rich girl and she considers you her toy.
>>343029348
Its one of those games where you feel frustrated while playing it, but then accomplished and nostalgic after finishing it. Basically, if you like more challenging games, it'll interest you. If you just want to coast through the game to see the story, it's not a good choice for you.
>>343029348
>is it really that bad? i don't have a lot of patience
If you use a walkthrough it's not that bad until the very end of the game. And if you use an emulator and savestate enough, the end isn't that bad either.
>>343029271
If you don't mind a relationship where the woman is clearly the one in charge it's not so bad.
But she really truly believes herself to be the one running the show. She probably acts that way in bed, too.
>>343014318
>whats your favorite dragon quest?
VIII
>whats the last one you played?
IX
>>343029389
Best girl from DQ6.
My favorite girl in the series isMoonbrooke Princess.
>>343029962
??
But she's a totaldog
:^)
Does every final boss spam whack and sweet breath as much as Psaro? I swear to god if I wasn't a little buzzed I wouldn't have bothered finishing the game.
>>343029348
Even Horii said he feels it's not as good as it should have been. He said they rushed DQ2 to catch up with holiday shopping but because of that they couldn't fully playtest DQ2. So level balancing is all over the map when you get the boat. And all the items you need to get are pretty stupidly hidden.
Horii took all the problems DQ2 had and fixed every one of them in DQ3.
>>343030691
Well, every problem except still having to collect seals. Only in DQIII, they're orbs. But yes, aside from that one issue, DQIII is an improvement in every single way. One of the best sequels in gaming. Right up there with Suikoden II and Pokemon Emerald.
>>343030691
>So level balancing is all over the map when you get the boat
That's what made me drop the game. cryptic clues for the seals and getting punished hard for exploring the wrong place with no indication you're too weak to be there.
>>343029580
>She probably acts that way in bed, too.
That's what I liked about this one. Well, one of the things I liked about it.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/871674/ff20a03e47/
>>343031348
Collecting items wasn't the problem in DQ2. It was finding them that was the problem. About 3 of them was fine but after that it was just a pain finding them. Even with the flute it was a fucking chore. When you were getting the Orbs in DQ3 it was easy to find them. "Oh hey a boulder I can move. Maybe I should look under there!" There wasn't really anything dickish like DQ2.
>>343031637
http://exhentai.org/g/53611/430cdc1e1e/
This is my favorite Deborah doujin. She doesn't have many, sadly, but this one is good.
>>343032276
Ah that one. Yeah, it's been in my To Translate list for months. I've been so busy with official and unofficial commissions that it kinda got forgotten. I'll try to get to it eventually.
>playing Monsters 1
>find item caled lovewater
>realize it's what's known as amor seco essence in VI's localization
>>343015634
iOS too? I had a Nexus 6 and then a LG V10 and it didn't work on either of those. I upgraded to the S7 Edge and it suddenly works again. Marshmallow must have dropped ART, or at least has it off by default.
Fuck just upgraded my Galaxy to an iPhone and forgot DQ ain't free on phones. I had been stealin it.
What's the best platform to play the early ones on. SNES I assume?
>>343036690
Yes
>>343036690
I & II : SNES
III : SNES
IV : DS
V : PS2 / DS
VI : DS
VII : 3DS
VIII : PS2 / 3DS
IX : DS
X : Lol
>>343021261
Only the NA games published by Nintendo don't use it. Notice that Heroes or Builders still have the sword.
Nintendo thought the sword made the game look kiddie, so they changed it.
>>343036781
Do you think DQ largely sided with Nintendo because FF went with Sony and DQ hates FF with a passion
Pointing out the /vr/ general for when this thread dies.
>>>/vr/3310165
>>343037880
No. They always go with whatever the most popular console at their time
>>343037880
>the same company owns both franchises
>"DQ hates FF with a passion"
The real answer is that Dragon Quest games have traditionally been made for the highest selling platform.
>DQXI is going to have save transfers between PS4 and 3DS via passwords
You're madman, Horii!
>>343038173
That sounds interesting.
>>343038173
makes me wonder how different the two(three?) versions will actually be
>>343038372
I say "is going to" but it's more of a "maybe" at this point.
http://nintendoeverything.com/dragon-quest-xi-may-receive-cross-save-functionality-between-3ds-and-ps4-with-passwords/
There's not a lot of info about it, though. Dragon Quest development seems to be about as tight as Nintendo development. No one wants to share any fucking thing.
>>343037880
Sure
>>343016475
Turn your cleric into a wizard and your wizard into a sage. Gets you two magic users that can heal and blast the strong spells at the end of the game.
Not worth class changing your muscle at all.
So I found this old artwork yesterday and I actually started thinking.
How violent are the dragon quest games suppose to be interpreted?
>>343038951
in game isn't terribly violent. there's never any blood and gore unless the monster is designed that way
>>343038951
I mean you always fight against demon lord and they always slaughter the damn human without mercy
Also in 8 Dhoulmagus is literally a madman. I still can't forget the Marta scene. It's brutal
>>343038951
That's from the 80s. Remember, back then that sort of thing was for kids. Pic related was probably even considered kid friendly.
>Pandora Box casts Kathwack
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD FUCKING GAME DESIGN
>>343039192
>open treasure chest
>its Mimic
>one shot all my party member
VIDEO GAMES
>>343039179Has toriyama ever done straight up porn? I've seen pics by him with breasts and dicks but it wasn't in a sexual way. I know basically every manga artist does porn at some point.
>>343039179
holy shit, that would never fly today, even in japan
>>343039192
Mimics go all the way back to Ultima and Wizardry (and PnP RPGs before that).
At least with Dragon Quest, you can use skills or magic to survive. There's far more ridiculous things in FF games. Some chests will just give you a game over by poisioning or KOing you, without even going into a battle. Just the simple act of touching the chest and you die. Trial and error gameplay at its worst, as well as discouraging people from exploring.
Plus of course, in a DQ game, if you die you still keep all your EXP and items. In a FF game, you spent 3 hours running through a dungeon and then died to a mimic? Tough luck. You go back to your save point from 3 hours ago with nothing.
>>343039610
Yeah, even Japan has become so pussified. I blame western (mostly American) influences.
>>343039179
Did the announcer from Dragonball just rapr that woman?
>>343036781
Is it possible to emulate all these on a hacked n3ds?
>>343039971
I'm not sure about DS or PS2, but SNES and PS1 do have emulators on 3DS.
are there any notable dq fansites
>>343039971
>accurate snes emulation
>3ds
No
>prince of cannock was originally a animal person
Thank you whoever decided against this.
>>343039179
English translation if anyone wants to read it.
>>343040229
looks like spurdo
>>343040168
There are a lot of dragon quest onlytumblrs.
>>343032276
Love Revo makes best DQ hentee.
>>343032440
Looking forward to it, friend.
>>343040298
>>343040168
I can think of some Japanese ones, but not English fansites.
>>343040413
There's a pun that unfortunately couldn't be translated. Both times she introduces herself, it's as seigi no shisha. The first time it's written 正義の使者, which is Envoy of Justice. The second time it's pronounced the same way but written 性技の使者, which is Envoy of Sexual Techniques.
>>343015245
>the monster recruiting is simply perfect and makes me wish more games did it in the same way
By making it a complete RNG grind? It was awful.
Sure the odds after each failure increase a bit but when you spend fucking hours trying to get king cureslime and still don't get it you just drop the game right then and there.
>>343039971
Yes. Except for the actual DS games, you'd need a flashcart.
>>343040168
>>343040341
>>343040413
http://www.woodus.com/den/home.php
Dumbos
>>343040587
Oh I forgot about that one.
>>343040515
>By making it a complete RNG grind? It was awful.
I mean, yes, you had ridiculously low odds for the better monsters, but early staples like Rotten Apple and Slime Knight can carry you pretty far.
Funnily enough, I once got a liquid metal slime (1/256) the first time I actually managed to kill one.
>>343040496
>>343040413
>>343040298
>raped twice
definitely wouldn't fly today
>>343040229
Whats the different? I'll still look at a coffin in my team
man, the early DQ's had such great soundtracks
>>343042004
The newer ones don't? And which ones count as the older ones, anyway?
>>343043009
1-3
I heard 1's overworld theme for the first time in ages and it still sounded amazing
Decided to play a bit of the English version of DQ IV DS to see how it is. It didn't take long to see that the localizers were trying their hardest to be funny.
>>343044818
>Cynthia/Eliza has to mention carrots when she becomes a rabbit.
>>343044818
They ton it down further in V and further in VI
V is still pretty bad. VI is acceptable
IV got fucked pretty hard since it doesn't even have party chat but with such a localization I wonder if its a blessing
Knew they'd censor this part. In the Japanese version she gave him a puff puff and his memory suddenly came rushing back.
>>343045605
I always wonder what was changed in the international versions
Speaking of which, Monsters 1's localization is pretty eh
>>343045605
Like, she just gives him a titjob right there between the jail bars? The absolute madmen.
>>343046692
Yep, right through the bars.
"You don't even remember this? Puff puff... Puff puff..."
>>343046692
puff puff is just normal massage... what are you thinking?
>>343047073
Kinda sad that we'll never have this good shit in games, ever, ever again.
>>343047156
>what is euphemism/innuendo
>>343047183
I know DQ VIII had the puff puff joke in it still, and it was localized by the same people. Wonder why the change of heart...
I don't know if it was in the English version, but in DQ IX in the town where everyone gets sick and you have to go kill a sickness demon, a bunny girl offers to give the party a puff puff as thanks, she said she's sure her husband would be cool with it. Well, I think it's pretty common knowledge that there's a puff puff in every game in the series, though they don't always make it through localization.
What are the major differences between the two versions of Monsters 2?
>>343044818
DQ4 DS really is pretty bad in a lot of ways. Not just accents but they hamfisted jokes all over the place no matter the situation.
>>343044818
Funny the NES just says "SMACK" which I either thought it meant she bashed him over the head or gave him a kiss.
>>343047361
Anyone played the mobile version of DQ1? I know the Puff Puff girl is near the spa. Anyone can confirm if she's there or not?
>>343048748
Not sure about the mobile version but heres for every puff puff in the game
>>343014318
>Favorite
V, if only for the pokemon-esque
>Last one
3 a while ago.
>>343049917
ops
http://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Puff-puff
>>343016475
Wizard. You'll need the higher level healing spells.
>>343049975
Man, the Japanese wiki's page on puff puffs is impressive. They take puff puffs seriously.
http://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/?%A1%DA%A4%D1%A4%D5%A4%D1%A4%D5%A1%DB
>>343044974
>V and VI
>toned down
not on your life. there's all kinds of stupid punny bullshit all over the place, changed for the sake of change, rather than trying to be anything close to the original script
