Alright guys, I'm going to drop some serious cash on a 1080, but which fucking manufacturer do I go with? Gigabyte looking alright
if you can't afford it, don't buy it. get a used 970.
>>341423795
Pretty much are all similar. If you want to save get a zotac, Nothing wrong with them and look clockable
>>341423795
Why? What do you need a 1080 for?
>>341424325
Playing games with?
>>341423795
>>341423954
>>341424325
>>341424385
>>341424934
I already have a 1080 so I kind of know what it can do
>>341425047
RX 480 benchmarks
depends on what manufactuerer your motherboard is
>>341425498
Im sorry why wait for the 480?? they will be nowhere near a 1080s.
The 480 is between the 390 & the 390x.
>>341425718
Because 2x 480s might be better than a 1080, and then more cost efficient.
Maybe
>>341425843
X fire and sli meme need to fucking die
>>341425843
Bahahahah, nope & nope.
Maybe in that shadows of shyte game. Bar than no.
>>341426058
>>341426084
>I like wasting money because its just one card
>>341426369
Tell you what, you buy a 480 card as thats whats in your price range. $249 ish.
Then cry when the 390x is better
Also holy shit their E3 showing was hilarious. People were embarrassed for her when she showed off the 470 & 460...people were expecting the 490.
>>341426592
>people were expecting the 490.
>people expecting a higher end card
>when AMD made it abundantly clear that they weren't targeting the high end this time
>>341425718
Already confirmed to be between 390x and 980.
For less than $300.
If you plan on dropping a grand on a gpu wait for the shit with hbm2.
>>341427748
I already have a 1080.
>>341428353
I sincerely hope you did not buy a FE model.
>>341428553
Why? sorry do you own one? how do you know what theyre like?
Had mine since the 28th , no problems with it and its running all games maxed out.
Im not sure about this wait for the 480 bollocks, if people want a mid range card then wait, if not you know what to do
>>341423795
At least wait a while, you're just gonna buy a gimped card if you buy one straight away.
Guess I'll add up.
Thing being, any suggestions on what I should upgrade a gtx650ti to?
Additionally any recommendations also in regards to upgrading a i3-3220 processor? Prefferably without changing the socket, with that the whole motherboard due, unless it would be more reasonable to change it as well despite the low budget.
At last what should I focus on upgrading actually, if I were to go one by one.
>It's a "AMD poorfags flap their wings around because a $200 card in 2016 is better than a $300 card from 2014" episode.
My LED TV is flatter, bigger and cheaper than your OLD ASS LCD TV.
>BTFO
>TV OWNERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
You see how retarded this sounds? I feel like AMD owners are just completely detached from reality so they try to convince themselves that they're smart enough to wait 2 years to have a GPU strong enough to max out 1080p games 2-3 years after release. If you're some absolute poorfag who only could rush B in CSGO because AAA games would melt your pc then yes 480 is the card for you unless Nvidia will come out with something like 1060 (I doubt it though, for the last few years they gave little to no fucks about budget cards).
If I have no plans to change from 1080p for a while, and currently have a 960 but want to upgrade, what do?
>>341429208
It's literally "I can't wait a month" edition of an otherwise great card. Nothing wrong with that, majority of us will have to wait for prices to drop when sellers actually are stocked up.
>>341429358
You don't. Just wait some more, you are fine for now.
>>341429358
480 should be enough on paper, but better wait for real world benchmarks
>>341429358
480 maybe 1060 gtx. As always - Wait for actual in game benchmarks, 390 was blowing away 970 in 3D Mark and Firestrike just it can fall short on its face cuz of no drivers meme and 970 leaping ahead when OCed. I kid you not AMDrones are so desperate that they leave comments under 970 vs 390 benchmark videos asking owners to make new benches just because AMD released some optimized drivers 9 months later.
>>341429208
Do you not know what MSRP is?
>>341429434
Which caused all the custom card to cost higher than normal.
So yeah, FE were made so that these markup up price looks sane.
>>341429358
So should I wait a month before I purchase?
>>341429874
More like 3 months. Sooner or later those card prices will drop to retailer suggested ones - Unless you're in EU, if you're in EU you might be fucked till Black Friday or Christmas.
>>341430043
I'm in Australia so I'm even more fucked
>>341423795
>OC Tier
MSI, EVGA,
>Cool Tier
Gigabyte, Zotac
>Shit and just marketing tier
Asus
>>341429358
No reason to actually. If you are not playing on maximum presets or at 144fps, the GTX 960 is should last you for a while.
>>341430143
Im sorry but the 960 is a pig. Its a pretty much defunct card in todays market. Shit Id even admit a load of the amd cards are better buys than one of these
>>341423795
Gigabyte motherboards have always been at least a bit crap, i wouldn't trust them to make a video board that won't die right after it exits warranty to cheap shit capacitors or solder whiskering.
MSI and Asus are good overall. EVGA makes solid stuff and has great warranty coverage but I hear their stock coolers are a bit lousy this generation. Never buy XFX, their stuff has a bad defect rate and their customer service is notorious for not giving a shit.
>>341430137
If I were Australian I'd probably drop gaming altogether and find a less expensive hobby like collecting '68 Ford Mustangs.
>>341430305
Intel for CPU
MSI for MOBO, dunno about ASUS but I heard good things.
EVGA for PSU, Corsair used to be cool but their recent PSU have so many fucking problems with burned capacitors and coil whines.
As for GPU it depends on series, wait a month so you'll see customers bitching.
>>341430043
Here in a Eastern Europe shithole country we have a few 3rd party GTX1080 for $900-950. Fuck those jews!
>>341430601
You live in Eastern Europe, Id be more worried about your potato crop than "jews"
>>341430560
>dunno about ASUS but I heard good things
Research the model name before buying anything from ASUS. They have awfully inconsistent QA. Some of their hardware is great and some is failing left and right
>>341430267
Getting rekt by nvidias planned obsolescence and losing up to 30% performance on your cards.
>>341430601
It's the same for me in UK. I feel your pain. Has nothing to do with Nvidia though, people want those cards and even if you're willing to pay more than you should you will still have to wait for weeks before that card gets to you. Stores are ran by Jews.
>>341429709
manufacturers suggested retail price
it's just a classic use of misdirection by nvidia to
1. to make their cards look cheaper than they actually will be to create hype.
2. fool people into thinking there is any difference between the "founders edition" cards and the traditional reference card (there is none)
During the initial press release and even now people still seem to think the MSRP price is the retail price of the cards, which it is not.
>>341430754
I doubt this is relevant to the topic of the thread, but if you must knowevery bulk electronics importer is owned by literal jews. And since all small retainers has to go through them, they can control market prices in the whole country for the first few weeks at least
>>341423795
I can reccomend evga as a manufacturer.
Had 2 cards made by them in the past, both lived more than 5 years without problems.
Plus I've got a friend who had to sent his back because something stopped working. They sent him a stronger model back instead, because they didnt have the old junk anymore.
>>341423795
My old one died and I need a new one
Should I just get gtx 970 or are there hot new spicy ones coming soon, that doesn't cost 1000€?
Also is anyone else disappointed with the fact that we still don't have a single GPU that is enough to play games in 4k?
>>341431051
Right -- you understand that NVIDIA doesn't make money off retail markup, right?
>>341431138
Wait for 480 and 1060, odds are both will be better than 970 gtx while costing less.
If everything else fails and 480 ends up having no drivers/1060 is a garbage as 960 you can wait till black friday and get a 970/390 for $150.
>>341431160
And this has anything to do with nvidia shills constantly claiming that the retail prices are $379 and $599 how?
I think you may have completely missed the point of the image
>>341431216
Shits given by me 0 . Do you research the sellers info everytime you buy something?
>>341431309
1060 will not be better than the 970.
>>341431363
Do you realize that retail markup applies to AMD cards as well as for nVidia? And for any other freshly released piece of hardware for that matter
>>341431363
>And this has anything to do with nvidia shills constantly claiming that the retail prices are $379 and $599 how?
Things that never happened, except before the cards were actually released.
>>341431363
Nice fallacy bro, especially since it comes from AyyMDrone - According to you guys waiting 2 years for 390 instead of buying 970 is a great deal, even though cards are equal and cost about the same. Majority of Nvidia owners will wait for prices to go back to normal.
>>341431481
internet thinks different
The new GPU also seems to use a die size of about 200mm squared which could translate to 1280 CUDA cores in total. It would still be more powerful than the previous generation cards such as the GTX 970 or the GTX 960.
>>341425843
there are gonna be lots of games that dont support crossfire on release...and with quite a few games not at all.
So then you just have a 250$ card that dos nothing.
>>341431481
>>341431665
Even according to AMD biased wccftech 1060 gets performance of a non-reference 970 gtx.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-3dmark-11-entries-spotted/
>>341431812
buh buh muh 970.
When are the nonreference 1070 coming out?
There are literally none for sale on amazon or newegg in Canada.
>>341432130
Next week.
>>341432130
August/September. They're coming out in July, some of them already did, but it will take few months for prices to drop. Don't know what to do. 4k gaming is still impossible even with a single 1080 gtx. 1070 gtx seems like the sweet spot for 1440p gaming but that's still a new monitor, cpu, mobo and gpu which will cost me at least $1000. Feels bad.
>>341432383
What are you so desperate to play in 4k?
>>341423795
evga
>>341432560
i want to see my heroes crystal clear in LoL
>>341432560
I'm not desperate to play in 4K but I would feel better to make that final jump and finally play glorious W3 or heavily modded Skyrim with ENB in 4K. 1080p to 1440p jump feels meh. Maybe I'll just upgrade but buy a future proof 4k monitor so I can just buy a 4K ready GPU once it comes out in few years from now on.
>>341426592
>people were expecting the 490.
If you're retarded and haven't paid attention let me spoonfeed it for you : Vega gen with HBM2 isn't before Q4 2016 or Q1 2017
A 144hz monitor would be pretty nice, but for now I see no reason to go beyond 1080p 60fps. At least not until the prices go down.
Doesn't make sense to jump on the bandwagon and pay so much for technology that will be 25% the price in a few years.
>>341432984
Oh no I knew that, I was talking about others who were actually thinking. People are already on about the 490 and 490x here.
Plus calling someone a retard and then themselves buying an AMD card is pot/kettle
>>341432383
>4k gaming is still impossible
Fury X/980ti/1070/1080 will do at least high settings 4k 60fps.
980/390x/480 will do at least medium settings 4k.
Not to mention the average PC gamer only plays CS:GO and DOTA, which run at 4k even on last gen midrange cards.
>>341434593
Maybe you should spend more time reading the thread instead of looking for reaction images.
Since this thread is up.
Would an i5-4460 bottleneck a 1080? I've been thinking about waiting for the 1070 but I've come into a bit of money, wondering if I should spring for 1080
>>341434884
at 1080p? yes.
Beyond it? no.
>>341435038
Well shit, I have a 1080p monitor. Don't wanna go for more, especially since I honestly don't notice the difference.Should probably go for a 1070 then, huh?
>>341434037
They're fucking amazing though, I love mine. Even if you're getting 80-90fps in a game like in Witcher 3, it's still a noticeable improvement over 60fps. And I don't mean to sound elitist, but 60fps gives me headaches pretty quickly now. I could spend the whole fucking day in front of this monitor gaming and feel fine. fyi I have the asus vg248qe.
>>341435257
You really don't need much for 1080p. 1070 will serve you well even for 1440p.
>>341435638
I'm guessing a monitor like that has no noticeable input lag as well right?
Fuck it sounds so nice. I'm a patient poorfag though, so I'm still going to wait.
>>341430601
Czech here, can confirm.
>>341434884
a 1080 will bottle a i5-4460. I can 100% confirm as that was the problem I had. Literally replaced with an i7-4790k yesterday.
It was 100% ing on the witcher 3.
>>341437028
What'd you pay for the i7?
>>341437343
Bought from Amazon so it was £269 . I will sell the 4460 for about £50ish hopeully
>>341434884
>>341437028
what about i5-6400? would that bottleneck 1080?
>>341437598
Not sure desu but its a 1151 socket. Thing is you would need a new motherboard and new ram (ddr4) .
>>341423795
Asus seem bretty good also EVGA
i always get the one with the best cooler bar watercooled because fuck that.
It will be outdated once the 490x and 1080ti drop next year so try and get one cheap
>>341437825
Oh, no, I'm different anon, I have a 6400 and was thinking about buying 1080 or 490.
>>341430334
ausfag here literally owning a 15 year old v8 commadore is cheaper than gaming here.
after this gen i just gave up and went back to playing old stuff and waiting for prices to drop online so i can go get cheap keys or whatever
>>341438081
Ah apologies. Well looking at toms hardware site they say a 6400 wont bottleneck with a 980ti so you should be fine with the 1080 not bottling.
My 4790k only used 47% on full settings on the witcher where previously the 4460 was 100%
>>341423795
Tbh I wouldn't drop 600-700 bucks on this gpu unless you plan to play on 4k. And honestly this GPU doesnt run all current titles at 60fps on 4k so just buy a 1070 theres not much of a performance difference and its almost half the price. Wait to blow a large amount on the 1080ti most likely will have better 4k support
>>341439948
The difference is quite substancial actually
GTX 1080 specs:
CUDA Cores: 2560
Core Clock: 1607MHz
Boost Clock: 1733MHz
VRAM: 8GB GDDR5X
TFLOP: 9
Memory Clock: 10Gbps
Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
TDP: 180W
Transistors: 7.2b
Manufacturing process: TSMC 16nm
GTX 1070 specs:
CUDA Cores: 1920
Core Clock: 1506MHz
Boost Clock: 1683MHz
VRAM: 8GB GDDR5
TFLOP: 6.5
Memory Clock: 8 Gbps
Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
TDP: 150W
Transistors: 7.2b
Manufacturing process: TSMC 16nm
>>341423795
dont think 1080 is worth it
it sends a bad message to nvidia, since they keep rising the price every gen and its not much faster than 1070
>>341440881
see >>341440220
Yeah keep saying that to justify buying a 1070 instead of the 1080
>>341441021
GTX 1080 is justifiable if you want to max out 1440p or to play at 30fps at 4k. Otherwise it's not really worth the effort. The guy's rig is only meant to power a 1080p setup, so I will keep saying this.
>>341441021
>>341440220
They're not saying there isn't a difference, just that for 1440p the 1070 is enough and for 4K the 1080 is not enough. Ergo there is literally zero reasons for buying 2080.
"theres not much of a performance difference"
341439948
So he didnt say that?
>>341423795
Asus
>>341430143
>asus bad
nigga shut the fuck up
>>341426369
enjoy your supbar microstutter experience ya nab
>>341442956
Well he is stupid as he said a 960 was fine
>>341429208
you're not old enough to be here
>>341431051
there was nothing to be fooled by ya pleb, you're pretty dumb if you think they tried to trick you
>>341423795
With Nvidia you want to go with Gigabye, MSI, Asus and EVGA. Though I'd wait a bit until there is better availability and more reviews.
>>341430737My potato crop is doing quite well. Weather has been a consistent 22-28C with little rain
>>341437028
>i7-4790k
>£280
Wouldn't it be better to just go with 6700k then?
Would a 550 Watt power supply be enough to power a 1080?
Or should I get a 650 Watt replacement?
>>341444319
Not really as they are 1151 sockets and my motheboard is 1150. Same with ram.
Id have to buy new mb & ddr4 ram so basically a new rig.
The 4790k is very very close to the 6700
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K
Also single core it wins (not overclocked either)
The 4790k is a good card for a year or two at least!
>>341444319
>>341444935
Depends on what else you have in there.
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
^^ use that link itll work what you need.
>>341444941
You only need new MB, the ddr4 ram thingy being necessary is am myth, the difference is like a 1 fps gain.
>>341444935
It's sufficient. Post the rig here just to double check though.
>>341445018
Would OCed 4790k be enough for AAA games in 4k like Witcher 3?
>there are people who don't use 144hz or 4k monitors
Plebs
>>341445169
doesnt need overclocking. Standard itll hammer out 4k easy
>>341445080
most boards designed for 1151 socket cpu do not take ddr3 only a few.
Do I pull the trigger on this?
It's either EVGA, GB or Asus. EVGA is somehow the cheapest by about 70€.
>>341445107
Currently at work but off the top of my head I have an 8 core at 4.3 GHz
2 sticks of DDR3 8 GB RAM
A GTX 660
Will soon have two 1 TB HDDs and 1 256gb SSD
>>341445669
If I were you, I'd still get the 650w instead.
>>341446047
That's what I'll probably end up doing
Thanks for the input anon
How much they profit from single card sold?
>>341445645
Yeah that's the same one I'm looking at. Scan has it for £649 but OC/Amazon has it for £609 instead and EVGA has real good warranties and FTW is on of the best for aftermarket I hear
So I want a 1080 but do I just buy that or do I need to buy other new PC parts such as a power supply? My current card is a gtx 960
>>341446576
post what you have currently anon
>>341445191
Or 1440p, or ultrawide. These are the people who whine every fucking GPU thread about "WAAAAHHHH WHY BUY DIS EXPENSIVE GRAPHICS CARD????" because they don't understand that there's a world beyond 1080p/60hz pleb monitors.
>>341423795
I just bought a normal 1070.
Why would you want a 1080, and not an official one even? Seems like a waste of money.
>>341425498
>buying AMD
enjoy your shitty linux support
>>341447094
>and not an official one
The reference cards are inferior, so there's that.
>>341446790
antec 620w
fx 8350
im assuming the mobo doesnt matter but its an msi 970 gaming
and of course the gtx 960
>>341447190
>supporting dead operating systems
>>341430854
I bought one in the UK. Arrived 2 days after I ordered it on the Nvidia website.
>>341447190
>Supporting monopolies
>>341429653
>asking owners to make new benches just because AMD released some optimized drivers 9 months later.
Thats kind of a reasonable thing to ask.
If I were to buy one now, I'd like to see it after any supposed increase in performance. So I know what I'm getting.
>>341447423
>buying the worse product because muh monopoly
>>341447339
>not using your computer for real things besides video games
enjoy being a kid
how do you even afford $800 graphics card?
>>341446524
Bit-Tech has a review.
Theirs OC's really subpar, but that's mostly down to the lottery.
On the other hand a 54° temperature delta under load seems rather bad.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/06/15/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ftw-review/1
>>341447336
I think you're fine just upgrading that graphics card.
>>341431481
1060 will most likely be better than a 980
>>341423795
If it's hot in your room or your area/region in general, go with MSI.
>>341447617
Well I'm still using a 7870 which was barely a medium tier card in 2012, would it still be worth picking up?
>>341447336
Why are you listing your power supply? Literally the only thing that matters is your motherboard chipset.
Did you build a computer without understanding how computers work?
>>341447543
>Declaring the better product before benchmarks are all out
Wait for the benchmarks
>>341430143
Gigabyte is one of the best with the strongest cooling system which allows for great clocks
>>341448548
Yea, I didnt build it.
>>341439948
>theres not much of a performance difference and its almost half the price
the 1080 costs 40% more than than 1070 and delivers 30% more performance.
So, if your wallet allows it, the gap between 1080 and 1070 is meaningful.
>>341448548
what
so... what games do you guys play that actually require a 1080?
>>341448710
thats why he put it in the cool tier
cool tier, get it haha
>>341448921
But zotac a shit
>>341448839
4k nearly 60 frames
1440p 144hz monitor
Not everyone is a poor nigger using a 1080p monitor
Makes my eyes vomit
>>341449132
fair enough, now is the 2,000 dollars you invested into playing overwatch at 4K worth it though?
>>341448807
That's an interesting question, would you like to elaborate on that?
>>341448391
I'm personally waiting for some more reviews.
Don't think it's gonna be a bad card, but there's no hurry.
And if it actually has worse thermals than Asus or GB I'll go for one of them.
Most of the cards seem to plateau at ~2050 Mhz with some doing ~2150 or a bit less, which seems to be the limit for Pascal on air.
>>341449470
Yes :^)
I actually have two 980ti's running though, picked a second one up after the 1080 dropped
Everything is so nice and pretty (not referring to OW)
It doesn't matter which manufacturer you go with.
They're all made in 3, maybe 4 factories in China.
>>341425498
>>341448839
Witcher 3 ultra, even at 1080p you need a pretty beefy card to maintain 60fps
>>341449470
>making every game you play look absolutely incredible
>for YEARS
>not worth $2000
I understand some people are poor but PC gamers who skimp on monitors and GPU's should just go back to consoles.
If you play at 1080p & buy a 1080, you are a complete retard
Just get an RX 480
>>341423795
>I'm gonna buy this card because it's more powerful
Lower cards can play most games at 1080/60
I got a fucking 280x and it runs most things just under max at 50+at 2560x1440
>wasting money on unnecessary power
>>341449905
>g-get a Rx 480
It's shaping up to be pretty good value, but this is a stupid assumption.
It has virtually nothing to offer to people on a 970/390 and up.
And assuming >>341449740 this is the performance you can expect it's no longer sufficient for 1080p/60 at ultra either.
what the shit
>>341450160
>new shit only slightly better than the 980 TI
Good thing I didn't wait for those.
>>341449849
>actually falling for the YEARS meme
>>341450160
OC'd 1070 is really really close to an 1080. It's funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nZXcNX5U2A
>>341449016
Actually zotac are fine. Have you had one? I have had 2 and neither caused any problems at all.
>>341426369
This guy comes here to laugh at people a lot, but he sure is retarded.
>>341450284
>1070 better than a 980ti for half the price
>1070 better than a 1080 (what the fuck, is that for real?)
>1070 better than RX 480 while still being reasonably priced
I'm glad I waited for these.
>>341449628
You elaborate. Anon asked if he needs to buy a new power supply or other parts if he wants to buy 1080. Why or how does mb chipset matter and power supply not?
>>341449750
There's no major release right now that needs a fucking GTX 1080 for 60 fps.
>>341429208
Oh god, it's the kid from last night who doesn't know what MSRP is.
People say summer /v/ isn't a thing but they're just lying to themselves.
>>341449750
Maybe battlefield 1 or titanfall @ 144hz? Fuck you 60hz plebs.
>>341449849
I just don't understand how someone with so much money has the time to warrant spending that much on a hobby. I go to school full-time and get like 5 hours a week max to play video games, just can't see myself spending that much money for 4K vs 1080P.
Could buy a really nice guitar for that amount of money that actually will last you years, then spend far less in a year or two when the 11xx cards come out and enjoy 4K.
>>341450160
Price performance.
>>341450585
Because the Northbridge is what defines the type of port he has (you know, the thing you plug the card in).
>>341450867
Nope. You have to click price performance to show up.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html#
>>341450920
No it doesn't. And even if it did it wouldn't fucking matter.
Wait a second, am I getting baited here?
http://videocardz.com/60265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-3dmark-firestrike-benchmarks
>>341450160
>1070 better than 1080
are you even considering that slide?
>>341451498
>>341429208
>699 founders edition
>the underlined 1080 says "founders edition"
What's your point?
https://youtu.be/tn4oIa4erVs
The 1070 sli wins a few v the 1080. still 2 cards though v1
>>341423795
>Falling for the meme
>AGAIN
If you're not a complete retard you'd wait.
>>341451474
>it doesn't
>even if it did
I suggest you try not to skip school kid, especially your computer architecture classes.
And yes, the kind of port you have on your motherboard does matter a lot. There are 7 variants of PCI Express alone.
>>341451991
>waiting instead of playing games
amazon open preorders, reeeeeeeeeee
>>341448548
Well if he had a weaker powersupply he could damage his computer. Are you disabled? A 300wat psu shouldn't be used with a 1080.so yes I would argue it's an important component
>>341452116
>Not already having a decent machine to max out and play dem games
>>341450576
>half the price
Are you for real?
980 TI costs aproximately €470,- while a 1070 would cost €550,- and probably more.
>>341452426
what specs do you have
>>341430143
It's literally the reverse of what you posted. MSI is hot garbage.
When will we get steady 144 at 1080p?
>>341452590
i5, Sapphire 290.
Great for 1080p/60fps but I wanna go 1440p/120fps.
>>341453101
i5 I had to swap out as its bottling on games.
had a 4460
>>341452585
980Ti is roughly 800€ in europe.
around 720 for the cheapests right now.
>>341453223
>>341453101
I just bought an i5 at christmas and I'm starting to feel the same way, I think i'll go up to an i7 next christmas
>>341452585
>he thinks the 980 and 980Ti are the same price
>>341452198
No computer sold after 2002 has less than 400W of power.
>>341453314
that's bullshit, I just bought a 1070 founders edition for less than that
>>341453716
Don't forget europe gets taxed on shit like this when the US doesn't
>>341447094
and not an official one
What modern card/CPU combo works as well as the 560ti/2500k?
Only really now needing to upgrade because it lasted me so long
>>341454072
I'm in Europe you faggot, in the UK where shit is an even more expensive
>>341454475
>tfw leaving the EU caliphate will mean free 1080s for everyone
>>341454293
Not really sure what you're asking. You're looking for a CPU/GPU with similar performance to the 560ti/2500k? Or a similar pricepoint to what it was when it was released?
For the latter, I'd just recommend the 6600k and an R9 380X. Though you might wanna wait for the Rx 480 which should be similarly priced but have much better performance.
>>341454579
The UK is not going to leave the EU unless plebeians are even more stupid that people think they are
>>341454579
The only part of the EU we're leaving is the group stages
>>341453434
>>341453314
Cheapest 980 TI is €470 on Amazon DE.
>>341445645
All these cards are basically the same as the reference models. Just with a different cooler and slightly higher clocks. The board is exactly the same.
>>341455121
it's not looking good, m8
there's shit everywhere saying "vote out" and I saw that brexit is in the lead even though voting hasn't started(?)
who ever is voting brexit is an idiot
change can be good, but not right now; the country is not prepared for such a step
>>341455121
>The UK is not going to leave the EU unless plebeians are smarter than people give them credit for
FTFY
>>341453596
That is sadly untrue expecially if store bought. It's what they cheap out on the most.
>>341456376
>unironically thinking brexit isn't the best for everyone across europe
>>341457460
I bought my computer 5 years ago and the standard back then was already 1100 watts
