Post yfw, TF2 update with new weapons and maps.
>TF2 update with new weapons and maps
We have better TF2 now.
Yeah the overwatch expansion was pretty good
>>340651863
>better
>>340651863
Only thing better about it is how easy it is to just play a round then put it down. TF2 is overall better but you have to deal with children going "DONT SHOOT IM FRIENDLY XD"
>>340651481
Why even bother?
>>340651863
>>340652535
>TF2 is overall better but you have to deal with children going "DONT SHOOT IM FRIENDLY XD"
What?
>we will never have a weapon as fun as the BFB againMost of my fun comes from sitting in corridors and Sandman>Cleavering them or just annoying the fuck out of people with Bonk.
Tfw (that face when) haven't played tf2 in years.
>>340653324
FaN will always be the best scoot shoot
TF2 completely murdered their characters design and personalities
You wouldn't even have to put in any effort to create a better designed character than Valve's these days.
>>340653406
Oh definitely, though bird scout is really fun too.
>>340653259
Autism, people actually fire up the game, go into normal servers just to sit in the middle of the map and act "friendly".
>>340651587
that pic it's outdated lad
>>>/h/4295000
>>340653324
>hes a sandman cleaver scout
>mfw airblasting scouts who try to bonk rush past a sentry into a corner until it wears off and then beating them to death
guess you're just going to have to make an effort and not rely on my team being worse than you are
>>340653568
>implying there's any other way to play scoutthat's fun
>>340652535
I just /votekick the "I'M FRIENDLY", people usually vote Yes.
>>340651481
>yfw velve fixed the game, removed all bloat, removed F2P and added new TC/CP maps
>>340653723
Or you could play on a community server that doesn't allow friendlies (that's what I do)
>>340652535
Just votekick them off, almost everyone will vote him off.
If he's on the enemy team, then it's a free domination for me
>>340653672
>Not FaN, Winger &Boston Basher
>>340653945
Yeah, that's also a good option
>>340653324
>>340653568
>>340653672
>>340654050
>not just using scattergun + pistol + atomizer
>>340653861
The match making will probably cost. There is your 'removed the f2p'.
>>340653568
>>340654050
see
>>340653516
Bird scout is really fun too. Soda Popper, Winger andObjector.
>>340654176
That's my tryhard loadout
>>340653672
Sandman alone with stock is fun as hell.
>>340654230
>Soda Popper, Winger andObjector.
nice
Just fix the shitty weapons they have.
The Diamondback, Big Earner and Soda Popper sucked ass and they reworked them to a point they became brand new weapons that were actually fun to play.
Class rework for Spy and Pyro.
Community maps are a given and the only thing giving life to the game. Valve can't do maps anymore. Robot Destruction, Cactus Canyon, Powerhouse and Mannpower were failures.
>>340653529
I'll go out of my way to kill them.
>>340653628
>Airblasting them into the air in front of the sentry
>Sentry pins them to the highest upper corner
>>340654464
>Mannpower
That shit was fun as fuck too
I used to hate this game because I would always end up with 2 - 28 every match, but when you start practicing and learning how to play Scout it becomes so fucking fun. Soldier is fun as well, but I can't rocket jump for shiiit.
>>340654464
I think the problem is Valve can't do anything anymore, all the talented people already left. The rest are happy making ez bucks creating hats.
>>340654464
>Class rework for Spy and Pyro.
I don't think Pyro needs a rework, just fix his bugs and some minor changing of numbers and he's fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ-d4oUSVzE
This really fucked me up the other day
>>340651863
>cuckwatch
>>340654610
>Playing Turbine
>Sitting around as a pyro at a nest since the other team has a bunch of spies
>A single scout runs up
>Bonks around the corner
>Runs past the sentry and stands at the intel waiting to pick it up
>Runs past the sentry without bonk
I don't know what he was expecting, didn't even go the other way
>>340654407
Get yourself some team spirit summer shades, my man.
>>340654679
>releasing a new gamemode when Halloween cameout
>Releasing a new gamemode when the best Halloween since lakeside_event came out
Why would they think anyone would play it.
And before anyone mentions it, I never really cared for the costumes it was always about the maps for me and it had 3 GOAT and one that was kinda meh.
>everyone always talking about weapons, seasons and all kinds of different game maps
>played for a week and only saw three weapons and two maps
>>340654938
>summer shades
fucking GOAT cosmetics. use it on nearly every loadout
>>340655247
Must be something wrong with your computer friend, there's like over 40 maps and a fuck ton of different weapons.
Not including community servers and unofficial maps.
>>340654517
99% of people do
>>340651481
>not a single post on the blog for months, while overwatch pushes TF2's shit in and morale is low
why is valve such a shitty company
Does Pyro have any more WW1-looking cosmetics?
>>340651863
Shoo shoo blizzdrone
>>340655745
TF2 is 9 years old, I wouldn't blame them
OH SHIT
>http://www.teamfortress.com/matchmadeinwar/
>NEW DEMO WEAPONS
>HEAVY ACTUALLY USEFUL AGAIN
>SNIPER NERFS
BEST UPDATE IN YEARS
>>340656496
>implying you'll catch me
>>340651863
>"""better"""
>>340656496
You already got me once, won't be fooled twice
>>340656496
DELETE THIS
>>340655962
trickster's turnout gear might look good with that
Mfw tf2 STILL doesn't have any mechs, waifus, or updates to their graphics
>>340656560
should be team fortress with waifus and moba stuff.
>>340656925
Not sure if I'm feeling it
>>340655962
Maybe try this jacket?
>>340656560
Do we really need waifus when we've got this
>>340656496
I know it's fake but I was at least hoping it be one of those fake community made updates.
Here's hoping Mayaan doesn't suck I guess.
>Mann Power
>Pass Time
>Robot Destruction
IS VALVE EVER GOING TO FUCKING FINISH THESE MODES?
Mann Power would make for a fun Halloween event map.
Also TF2 v TFC update when? I don't give a shit if Valve said the comic wasn't leading up to an update. That comic has the greatest concept for an update Valve never had.
>>340657559slap my ass
>>340657723
>Mann Power would make for a fun Halloween event map.
Mannpower literally came out in Halloween but everyone was to busy with the Halloween maps to notice so it basically died on release.
>>340651863
>worse chokey sightline filled maps, no map editor
>less customizable
>lower skill ceiling than tf2
>limited content, no custom content
>shit writing- "die! die! die!" lmao
>20 tick blizz servers
>visual clutter out the wazoo
only reason you could have to play overhyped is graphics whoring. TF2 is literally better in every other way
Now fuck off back to your thread, you already shit up this board enough with 10 daily shill threads you don't need to do it to tf2 threads as well
>>340651481
I don't care about weps and maps
Just remove the sv_pure garbage and might consider reinstall it
>using any cosmetics
>using strange and/or Killstreak weapons
>at all
>ever
>>340658267
>Not looking good while pubstomping.
>>340654464
>class rework for spy
>revolver, enforcer, l'etranger base damage boosted by 10, Ambassador damage penalty reduced by 5%. Diamondback stays as is
>decloak time reduced from 1.8s to 1.5s
>nerf razorback
>give him a sapper that does less damage to a single target, but more damage and provides more movespeed for every sentry the spy sapped in the last few seconds, to help counter large numbers of Sentries spammed
there spy is now a more useful class
>>340658267
>i'm a ftp brazilian, please pubstomp my face
>>340658267
>shitting on Strange weapons
>>340655745
>overwatch pushes tf2's shit in
tf2's daily player count has actually stayed unchanged. many of the people going to overhyped are the kind of people who play league of legends or skyrim
>>340658513
>playing in pubs
Why invest money into updates that will make a dead game good again when you can sell community made shit in Dota 2 and CS:GO.
>>340658747
I do not understand the point of Stranges
I shit on people with Hale's Owns all the time
>>340652382
Her vagina probably smells like death and years of having no sex.
>>340658767
>Not playing pubs
>>340658960
Stat tracking. That's about it honestly.
>>340651481
>>340659172
>*farming
FTFY
stranges>killstreaks
stranges are a man's way of quietly reminding himself, and anyone who wants to look, of his prowess.
killstreaks are a little CoDdler's scream "EEEE LOOK GUYS I GOTS A KILL!!!! PUT IT ON THE SCOREBOARD AND MAKE MY EYES GLOW RED AND SHIT!!!!"
>that moment when half your team just decides to dance outside spawn the whole game
>>340651481
What I'm really hanging out for is a new weapon for Medic, Spy, or Engineer. None of them have gotten anything since 2012 (Panic Attack is barely worth mentioning).
Medic could do with a new primary to rival the overpowered Crossbow, Spy a new primary/sapper/disguise kit/invis watch, and Engineer I really want to see get a new construction PDA.
In way of maps, though, I'm pretty happy with the selection we have available currently. If Viaduct had the tunnel from Product put into it, that would be good.
>>340659636
I usually try to get both. I have a gold botkiller that has a special killstreak on it.
>>340659636
>using either
>not just using stock weapons
>>340659636
Killstreaks > stranges
Killstreaks are a man's way of pushing himself to perform better, for the higher the Killstreak number, the more feared you are. And it's very easy for anyone at any time to end that streak, so one must be consistently good in order to maintain a high killstreak number.
Stranges are for literal women to feel good about themselves by looking at everything they've accumulated, regardless of their skill, and can be farmed easily. If Stranges lost a kill point for every death you had, that would make them slightly more bearable.
>>340660061
>press period
>join spec
>wait for player slot to open on the opposing team
>join as pyro
>make sure you're recording
>>340654719
It's not that everyone left, they're still employed by valve. It's just that Valve is focusing on chasing MOBAbucks and esports shit. Robin Walker leaving the development of TF2 to work on Dota 2 was a real kick in the teeth.
>>340659636
Why don't we have both
>>340660536
>ohhh robbie, who will they ever find to replace you? ANYONE?? HAHAHAHAH
Vaccinator is still my favorite TF2 weapon
>>340660615
>>340660615
>using Sydney Sleeper
>ever
For what purpose
Does anybody else think Landfall is a really good map. 2fort has always been shit and Doublecross is too big. I used to think Turbine was great, but it's fairly simple. Landfall is fucking great.
>>340660615
>Strange Killstreak for one of the worst weapon in the game
They could at least give the decency of just making headshots the -50% damage or something.
>>340660939
Takes more effort then the average Medigun so it's more fun.
>>340660939
It's great for pocketing good snipers.
>>340660615
Yes.
>>340660939
That shield that prevents getting crit'd on is pretty nice. Pretty underrated though. Every medic uses quick fix.
>>340661053
It's alright, but it still has the problem every CTF map has where it's 80% stalemate until someone get's board of Engie.
>>340661064
and it rewards you for using it right, I've been using it almost constantly since it was first released with my pocket and we put that weapon to maximum use.
>>340661053
>Turbine
>fat hallway, skinny hallway, ramp normal hallway connected with one big room
>"""""good""""
>>340661053
Badwater best.
>>340661258
>called badwater
>there's no water
defend this
>>340661156
My friend goes sniper occasionally and I'll still use it then, though it's not as sniper effective as it used to be as if you're not taking damage every so often it charges a bit slowly.
>>340661163
Well, the vaccinator in my mind has always been a medigun that's ideal for pocketing, I just don't see it as being as effective with random people, especially because most people are oblivious to how it works.
>>340661379
>It's not the stock medi-gun
I WILL DESTROY YOU
>>340661568
>implying anyone can crack the vacc
>>340661375
The water was bad so it quit the server
>>340661647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvfhmhITkYY
>>340661647
>>340661568
>Nobody uses kritz anymore.
As a solly main I like it when they pop it. I hardly see anybody using it.
>>340661064
Is this some sort of bait post? Why are you ragging on the Sydney Sleeper yet praising the Vaccinator? Doesn't the Sleeper theoretically "take more effort" to use than the normal rifle?
>>340651863
Can't wait for this to trigger more Valvedrones
>>340661820
Oh I still use kritz, but typically on cp defense, kritzkrieg + buff banner is amazing on Dustbowl defense.
>>340661823
>Doesn't the Sleeper theoretically "take more effort" to use than the normal rifle?
No?
It's literally effortless.
Everyone in this thread please pic related yourself
>>340662059
>Last moments with prenerf enforcer.jpg
>>340662059
Thanks!
Go! Go! Go!
Move up!
MEDIC!
Thanks!
Thanks!
>>340652382
>>340652535
>>340652890
>>340654802
>>340656012
>>340656560
>>340658121
LMAOing at how sensitive tf2 fanboys are. Don't you kids have a hat you have to grind for?
>>340661823
>Doesn't the Sleeper theoretically "take more effort" to use than the normal rifle?
>Rifle that doesn't headshot and rely's on everyone else to finish the job takes more skill
In comparison to the Vaccinator
>Has different resistances
>Must constantly switch between resistances to be effective
>If you just point at your medigun at teammate and heal without constantly pressing r depending on the situation you're doing it wrong
So what world are you living in anon?
>>340661823
>Sleeper
>taking any effort at all
What the fuck
It's designed for bodyshots and hoping that your team is going to finish the target off, while good snipers are all about picking high priority targets like medics or overhealed heavies quickly so your team can focus on other things.
It's a shit weapon made for shit players.
>>340662059
>Cry and put a gun to my head, reconsider and pull it away, then repeat in an endless loop
Jokes on you that's already my lifestyle
>>340662227
Don't you have loot boxes to grind for?
>he has to pay for sprays
LMAOing at your life
I will play it for a few days then drop it until the next update. It's been like this for years.
>>340662227
Hell yeah, fellow Blizzard®bro! Say, does anyone have any of that Widow maker "lewd"?
>it's been almost a year since the last update to the comic, when the cuck of a writer promised that the next one would be out quicker
Fuck Valve. They ruined the game, now the only thing that gives me the tiniest bit of pleasure from the series anymore is the comic, and they can't even be bothered to finish that.
They squandered these characters on a game that plays like shit now. The absolute least they could do is let us have this.
>>340662350
>laughing at leukemia
kys
>>340662584
>They squandered these characters on a game that plays like shit now.
shit meme
>>340662227
>Both games have a way for the player to 'grind' for cosmetic items.
>Both games also have a way to buy said cosmetic items.
>'Hur hats are gay amiright guise?'
>Not playing both games and accepting that they have pros and cons.
Stop this.
>>340662584
>Valve in 2016
>anything even remotely story-based
Marc Laidlaw is spinning in his grave
>tfw trying to play tf2 after experiencing the glory that is overwatch
>>340662584
>check the writer's twitter every so often for updates on the comic
>it's either stupid shit about him playing vidya or making excuses about how Valve has him too busy working on VR stuff to work on a short comic that would take maybe a month to write and then another month or two to finish the art for
Valve is a company that caters to lazy assholes so you shouldn't be surprised.
>>340653546
that is why its being posted.
>>340654179
Honestly people have been asking for it.
>>340661053
Yeah, agreed. Landfall is the best CTF map because you can actually attack the intel, and a decent map for dicking around on.
>>340661258
Badwater is good but Upward is better for making every class useful.
>>340654407
Nice reference
>>340662059
>>340662227
Provoking flame wars is against board rules, remember to hide and report
Does anyone have any tips to improve in TF2?
Here's one, don't underestimate the scout power. The scatter gun is incredibly powerful.
Remember to use the bonk. The bonk is very effective at clearing out sentries.
Tip 2
Remember to rocket jump. It's a lot harder than it sounds, but I can cover a ton of ground by rocket jumping the soldier can cover extreme distances and not take a lot of damage
Remember. Airblast. There is a way to airblast off the map.
Remember the sticky launcher, you can use it to sticky jump. You can cover INSANSE amounts of ground with sticky.
As an engie, use the widow maker and know sentry places. I underestimated the widowmaker but if you hit people directly on you will have a chance to set up a sentry where you don't have metal.
THanks everyone for reading my post. I really appreciate all the feedback I'll be getting.
>>340661375
It's in the basin.
I'm more interested in TF2 than I have been for years. I played it when the orange box came out and lost interest before it went F2P.
If Valve can actually respond to the pressure from Overwatch and revitalize the game I will like playing it.
>>340664003
Here's a great tip for everyone:DON'T PLAY AS A SPY YOU FUCKING IDIOT, YOU'D BE MORE USEFUL AS LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE
>>340664003
If you want to improve, for starters go into advanced options and turn your HUD to "small HUD" and your FOV to 90.
These videos outline some stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb5ca7_xShc
>>340662779
>cons
>overwatch
pick one
>>340664120
Do not underestimate the spy.
>>340664262
One of these things is not like the other.
>>340664379
The skill gap on spy is ludicrously wide. I only encounter really shit spies or ungodly good ones.
>>340664435
>>340664262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoM7SDAI1C4
as much as banny is a limpwristed and (literally) cucked faggot there aren't many concise videos out there for beginners so I'll shill these for him
>>340664379
I will underestimate every CnD spy I see
>>340664357
are you retarded?
>>340662227
>Grind for cosmetics
>Literally just drop
ok
>>340664357
>Being this delusional.
Overwatch's a fun game, I admit that I love playing it. I'm not bashing it and saying ''tf2 is better''.
If you cannot see that both provide with pros and cons then I have no idea what to tell you.
>>340664556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur7vUv_eN-c
There's only two types of spies, dead spies, and spies I've yet to kill
>>340653406
>uses the fan
>thinks he can have an opinion about scooting
>>340664806
You're fucking dilousional if you think you get TF2 hats at a faster rate than OW cosmetics.
>>340664643
Tell me more about b4nny.
TF2 had 5 good maps at launch and only 1 bad one, 2fort. Hydro haters can kiss my taint.
It also got Badlands in like 2 months postlaunch, possibly the best map of the game.
PLUS, Hammer Editor was easy enough to use that we got great shit like cp_wolf and other memorable fan creations.
Even that awful shit cp_orange was populated for years.
Overwatch is good and I've had great fun with it, but the ONLY good map is Illios.
I groan like mad when King's Row or Nepal show up.
MAKE SERVERS OR A MAP EDITOR GOD DAMNEven Splatoon has better fucking MAPS YOU FAGGOTS AHHHHHH
>>340664680
You might have been a bit slow on the update train, but Cloak and Dagger is Spy's most competitively used Watch since Gun Mettle.
If you are waiting for an enemy Medic pick there is no better option, as IW forces you to hunt for ammo to stay hidden, and DR does not stand up to spychecking and will alert the enemy to your presence. The days of shit-talking Cloak and Dagger are over
>>340665059
>Groaning at Kings Row
>Not Hanamura
ok
>>340665059
RIP
brb bouta watch some MLG splatoon gameplay
>>340664003
Go for bodyshots as a Sniper if you can afford the time to charge and know that your target is not at full health.
>>340664935
i dont really want hats that much in the first place.
most of my hats came from
>weapon drop
>save
>have enough for hat
>trade for said hat
unless you're desperate enough to buy credits from tf2wh or buy from the market, it shouldn't take that long.
>>340654517
>>340655703
>banned: shooting friendly hoovies
>>340665059
Maybe it's been awhile, but I don't remember Badlands coming out that quickly. Also while I did enjoy Hydro from time to time back then, most matches were either stalemates or one team absolutely slammed the other, it just wasn't that balanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6fq9Aadwk
>>340664967
okay well
>he used to be a Call of Duty competitive player before coming to TF2
>he's broken up two teams in the past that couldn't deal with his drama queen shit
>in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pZgph_ZaU you can see him proposing nerfs to pyro (a class he has only 17 hours in) and calling airblast "stupidly forgiving", yet repeatedly failing to airblast a rocket properly
>in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSkK2flXH68 we see him throwing a tantrum because the rest of his team decided to join in with the enemy team mucking around after his team stomped theirs
>his girlfriend left him for his team's scout main, Clockwork, making him a literal cuck
all that said he's a legitimately good demo/soldier player who can pull off great things, but calling him the BEST player is a meme by people who haven't seen other class mains, and outside 6s classes he's pretty useless
so yeah banny is a cuck
>>340665609
>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Badlands_%28Control_Point%29
>February 14, 2008
>tf2 released in October 2007
he was off by about 2 months
>>340665773
Thanks.
>>340665159
Hanamura phase 1 is bad but I can cope because Phase 2 is fun.
Kings Row is just fucking stupid.
At no point do I get any pleasure, as either team, trying to play that map.
>>340665609
You're right it was the following February, but that's still 3ish months.
The community maps still helped liven the experience too.
>>340665984
>>340666164
Ah I see, for some reason I was thinking Badlands wasn't put in until a year or so later, my memory of early TF2 is a bit spotty.
>>340651863
I thought it was called the Combine Overwatch?
Why is everything about ripping off Half-Life?
>>340662227
>grind for a hat
What?
>>340658747
whats was your first Hales Own /v/?
mine was my knife
>>340665556
>Playing on a server that does that
>>340666718
sniperrifle_obj
unfortunately most of those kills trained myself in strafing aim rather than twitch aim
how many hales do you have? i have just the one
>>340665773
b4nny is a little faggot who started feeling entitled when the subreddit sucked his dick for 2 weeks.
>>340660939
they nerf it too hard but it's still great
>>340666718
Mediguns take too long to reach Hale's own, but my vaccinator has 14-15k kill assists and my old regular medigun has something like 35k+ kill assists.
>>340666923
It was nerfed in one update, but then they buffed it back, it's arguably stronger now then it's ever been.
>>340661053
convoy is the best ctf map
>>340653324
Atomizer + Winger + Force-a-Nature
>Atomizer grants a third jump
>Winger lets you jump higher
>Force-a-Nature lets you use backblast for another, ADDITIONAL jump
that's FOUR jumps, faggot.
>>340666923
with the combination of buffs it recieved recently in Tough Break update, plus the advent of Valve's competitive matchmaking beta, it's finally got its chance to shine
Enemy team stacking all Demos, all Scouts, all Heavies, or all Pyros? Whip out your Vaccinator.
Enemy team got an aimbotting Sniper on it? Whip out your Vaccinator and cuck him.
Getting focused down exclusively by a single enemy player? Roll Vaccinator, protect yourself while continuing to heal.
Maybe the enemy team just popped a Kritzkrieg? Vaccinator can and will nullify the damage.
It's beautiful how the weapon sort of acts like an artificial classlimit, while still allowing people to stack classes if they want to and have sufficient strategy to deal with the risks involved.
>>340665664
>it's been 8 years ago
Fuck, I want to play Garry's Mod 10 again.
Tf2 is the only game i have on voice_enable 0 permanently. I have no idea what's wrong with the people who play that game other than diagnosable autism
>join degroot game
>there's a guy talking about how Overwatch is worse then tf2
>Finally open my mic and ask who he's talking to
>"uh, literally everyone"
and it gets worse every time I play.
>>340667052
convoy is a cool concept and cool visuals, but it's possibly the single most cramped custom map I've ever seen in this game.
>>340667401
Why would you not use Soda Popper then? It gives you like six jumps. It's basically flying.
>>340651481
>go on tf2 after 2 weeks of playing ow
>still haven't removed random crits
>still haven't nerfed the concheror
>still haven't nerfed the quick-fix
>bushwacka is still better than the axtinguisher
>still haven't nerfed the razorback or dds
>>340667701
concheror is bad, i agree, but not that bad. It only needs a small nerf. I'd rather they nerfed Disciplinary Action, Beggars, and Escape Plan first.
Competitive matchmaking will be nocrit servers permanently. Whenever you want a more serious game, you will be able to go there. You can also use Vaccinator or Battalion's Backup mini-ubers/charges to protect yourself from random crit damage.
Agree with everything else you said
>>340667701
now head to the overwatch thread and bitch about half the ults being OP and half the ults being useless
>>340656560
>meme and memey image
Lol. Be more of a faggot
>They removed holding R and Mouse1 at the same time
dead to me
>>340667974
>Nerf the Beggars
Nah, it was fun while it was OP a fuck, but now I think your better off 95% of the time with stockholders
>>340668350
>stockholders
fuck my phone
*stock
>>340654517
I was almost kicked out of an official server for killing firendlies.
>>340651863
>>340668350
good players will absolutely rape the fuck out of the enemy team with it. Basically a good Soldier uses it to overload jump across the map, divebomb right into the enemy team's Medic, and go aloha snackbar all over him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxQWTPd-gw
>>340667701
>still haven't nerfed the razorback
But razorback sucks, any half-competent spy is going to kill you with his revolver instead.
>>340667974
IMO, change the self-heal back to constant 2 HP/s and increase the damage to charge from 480 to 600, like the other two banners. Sure, constant 2 HP/s counters the Degreaser, but it's entirely the Pyro's choice to use that weapon and it's not the stock.
As for Comp, I highly doubt 12v12 will be supported. I want to play on larger scale teams on official servers with nocrits.
>>340667984
TF2
>Been out since 2007
>Still massively unbalanced
Overwatch
>Been out for just over two weeks
>Overall quite balanced, but with a few bad design choices here and there
>Blizzard literally engage with the community to discover what needs changing.
>>340667701
>concheror
>razorback
>dds
>>340665385
This isn't intentional, the main way pyros kill other pyros with flares is by leading a fire particle into them right as the flare hits so it crits. Problem is with the recent switch speed nerf making this much harder to do and pyro's range bug making flames inconsistent the only option left is to just m1 and strafe.
>>340668670
Ok mate. I'll stand by my team's Sentry Gun that will immediately unload 128 DPS worth of bullets and 150 damage/3seconds worth of rockets on your ass as soon as you make your first attack on me. Don't even bother trying to sap the sentry first, I'll hear it.
>People comparing tf2 crate system with overwatch system
you cant be fucking serious, you dont get keys from drops, at least in overwatch you get the boxes that doesnt need keys which are not limited to a week and you get them by just leveling up, also even if you get a hat dropped good luck saving for that unusual burning strange collector genuine TC. Only people that defend this is those who cashed out or wont accept they spent too much fucking money and wont let go.
>>340668921
>I'll stand by my team's Sentry Gun
You are going to stand near a sentry 100% of the time?
Way to be useless.
>>340668725
>Massively unbalanced
>TF2
we joke but overall it's pretty well balanced
OW has McCree and Widow which are game changing, even in pubs
>>340667475
who's this fag supposed to be
>>340668921
>Don't even bother trying to sap the sentry first, I'll hear it
And then you will proceed to be killed by that spy because you odn't have a secondary to defend yourself with.
gg
>>340668725
what i'd like to see happen is
>self heal minimum 1, maximum 3 (or what you suggested about a constant 2)
>change damage to charge for all banners to 500, across the board
Competitively and in pubs, concheror actually isn't even used that much. In comp sometimes people will pick it for the black box regen loadout, but gunboats and shotgun are superior to it. So I think it only needs a very small nerf. http://tf2stats.net/weapons/?sort=equipped
>I want to play on larger scale teams on official servers with nocrits
Well, Valve put a "9v9 ladder" option into the matchmaking menu screen, so maybe that's what's taking them so long to ship the update-- trying to get the matchmaking logistics of a mode with more players in it working.
>>340668921
As an Engi main, that's not going to work.
That's not even how it works, you useless sack of shit.
>>340669027
why would you actually want a burning tc.
also you can trade up all the way to an unusual.
just be good at trading.
>>340669651
>also you can trade up all the way to an unusual
>just be good at trading
Time is money. It's better to just buy it a this point.
>>340668725
>>Blizzard literally engage with the community to discover what needs changing.
m8 have you played a blizzard game before
Is Tf2's in game economy still fucked?
>>340669314
>>340668670
>being a shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFXyE8SLHww
If you are an overhealed 185HP Sniper, a Spy trying to shoot you to death with his Ambassador peashooter will be unable to kill you without committing suicide on an even skill level, and even if he is willing to die he might not even get the pick.
That's why the entire plat player council, not just spies, voted to ban Razorback in UGC HL. It slows down the game when Snipers can't be instantly killed by their counter as was intended, and thus get to instantly kill everything in perfect safety (unless the enemy bombs in).
>>340651481
>TF2 update with new weapons and maps.
>Check page
>50% Tough break passes Feb 12
Hey that reminds me, remember that bi-annual comic? I bet someone in Valve thought it meant twice every year, not once every two years, but then dismissed the thought "Nah that cannot be right, who even does that?"
God, community updates are so terrible, and Valve only checks back on this once a year, then fixes it, and the cycle repeats. To be honest it is crazy they keep supporting a game that is almost a decade old, but then again it prints money, so I guess I mad that despite all that Valve does not work faster on these updates. I mean what else do they have to do? work on HL3? I don't think so.
Anyhow Overwatch is the mercy kill Tf2 deserves, it was a good run, but the game is objectively shit at this point. That's the power of playerbase worse than aids.
>>340669985
A key is 20 refined each
You tell me
>>340654954
spiderman with guns, mate
>>340669651
>why would you actually want a burning tc.
To sell it thorugh paypal, like any expensive unusual
>also you can trade up all the way to an unusual.
just be good at trading.
Right, because I just need 1 month of saving through weapons and maybe if Im lucky a hat worth shit? be real the "good a trading" is scam
also my secure drops per level gives me the chances to get legendary skins without the need to spend money at all, I liked tf2, I liked it even after poly update, but I couldnt stand it anymore at uberupdate, I envy the people who can still enjoy the game but too much shit made me drop it.
>>340669985
It was good for a bit, but in the last week we had an economy crash. I made a very tidy profit selling my unusual beforehand, though.
>>340660502
Chances are you get bored of doing that after the 5th time.
>>340660939
>Retards insists this a MLG Highlander weapon
Many matches would had been won 3 minutes earlier had anyone stopped using that meme shit, and used the stock in pubs.
God I have seen so many retards use it.
>>340661156
For example this faggot probably plays insta respawn 2fort.
>>340669128
I'd say it is.
>Soldier Demo and Scout are just flat out better than the rest of the cast
>Bullshit unlocks and Flat upgrade weapons exist; Soda Popper, Rescue Ranger, Ambassador ect.
>Spy is a useless class, he's countered by everyone just having a basic intelegence of the game.
>Pyro is a broken glitchy mess. Every one of his weapons have to be Freecrit combos, his hitboxes are flatout broken, all he exists for is airblasting
>Heavy dies to a fart in his direction unless he has a dedicated pocket Medic
>Sniper can instant kill any class with >150 hp, this is worse than Widowmaker. Quickscopes are bullshit
Overall its currently more balanced than OW, but considering Blizzard has confirmed Mcree nerfs while TF2 has just sat on its unbalanced ass for so long makes it worse.
>>340670242
why would you craft a hat instead of buying a hat for cheaper and selling it for more.
that's how you make a profit you dumby.
>>340670087
>Anyhow Overwatch is the mercy kill Tf2 deserves, it was a good run, but the game is objectively shit at this point
>worse chokey sightline filled maps, no map editor
>less customizable
>lower skill ceiling than tf2
>limited content, no custom content
>shit writing- "die! die! die!" lmao
>20 tick blizz servers
>visual clutter out the wazoo
only reason you could have to play overhyped is graphics whoring. TF2 is literally better in every other way
And it's not a "mercy kill" when TF2's daily player count stayed the same following OW's release and it's still the third most played game on Steam. Check the numbers if you don't believe me. Overhyped's audience is from the Skyrim and LoL crowd.
In short, you are wrong and a fag.
>>340670043
>If you are an overhealed 185HP Sniper
Which is not always the case.
>a Spy trying to shoot you to death with his Ambassador peashooter will be unable to kill you without committing suicide on an even skill level, and even if he is willing to die he might not even get the pick
Even if you manage to kill that spy, you will certianly be at very low health after that. Even in your vid the sniper dies shortly after dealing with a spy.
>
That's why the entire plat player council, not just spies, voted to ban Razorback in UGC HL. It slows down the game when Snipers can't be instantly killed by their counter as was intended, and thus get to instantly kill everything in perfect safety (unless the enemy bombs in)
They only get to be in perfect safety if they are always near the team, which again, is nto always the case.
Razorback is very situational and imo not worth the loss of Jarate/SMG/Darwins shield.
>>340670268
>robo effects
my condolences.
>>340670452
>For example this faggot probably plays insta respawn 2fort
Stop projecting.
I don't think you have ever been in a match against a good sniper with a vacc pocket. It's literally impossible to counter snipe.
>>340657118
>mechs
you beat the shit out of mechs in MvM
>waifus
Miss Pauling and Scout's mom will have to do
>updated graphics
still holds up pretty well to current standards despite being old as fuck
>>340670541
Not him, just pointing out major errors in your post:
>>Demo just flat out better than the rest of the cast
You weren't around for Tough Break, L&W, Gun Mettle and Smissmas 2014 were you? Demo has recieved a series of nerfs and is now the most balanced class in the game. He goes even in a fight with just about every other class, even Pyro depending on distance. He counters Engineer and is countered by Scout. His stock weapons are his best (bar LnL).
>calling rescue ranger a "bullshit unlock" and "flat upgrade"
>Sniper can instant kill any class with >150 hp, this is worse than Widowmaker. Quickscopes are bullshit
Widowmaker has an entire clip, OW hitboxes are fucked beyond belief on all weapons, and she's one of the safest classes in the game with her grapple hook PLUS her SMG is a much better version of Sniper's. And OW sightlines are atrociously large, too.
>>340670573
Custom content in tf2 changed from respectable, to a diarrhea of terrible design choices.
>lower skill ceiling than tf2
It is funny you say that given that the playerbase for tf2 is clinically retarded outside of 6vs6 and highlander fags who wasted their life on a f2p dress up game.
>>visual clutter
>mentioning this unironically
You retarded hypocrite
>>340670452
Well I primarily use it in pubs with my soldier pocket, it's the reason why we can carry teams so much.
>>340670925
backstab is answer.
backstab medic and then shoot the sniper if he has a razorback
>>340657948
I thought it came out in the smissmass update of 2014
>>340651863
>Less maps
>Less weapons
>Less complexity
>Less fun
>>340671264
Not as easy as you make it sound. Given that counter sniping is one of the biggest threats to any sniper this is still an enormous advantage.
>>340670541
>Soldier Demo and Scout are just flat out better than the rest of the cast
Only when you take unlocks into account
Stock demo and soldier are very well balanced, stock scout is slightly OP but it's only noticeable near the skill ceiling
Rest of what you said is pretty true though.
>>340670573
>tf2's daily player count
HOLY FUCK THIS IS DENIAL OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL
60,000 PLAYERS, 59,000 RETARDS
IT'S LITERALLY ALL RUSSIANS, SOUTH AMERICANS, CHINESE, OR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 13
ITT common myths
>tf2 is hard
>>340665773
b4nny is usually wrong and is a drama queen but people fucking around in casted invite matches is really something that shouldn't happen as often as it does.
Shit like this keeps sponsors away just like the caster said.
>>340651481
i dont give a shit, bring back quake team fortress which was always a better game
>>340671158
>calling rescue ranger a "bullshit unlock" and "flat upgrade"
It is as long as you aren't using it with gunslinger. Only reason it's not complained about is because demo and soldier have their fucking retarded 2 shot buildings guns.
>>340671763
so much denial
>>340664927
FaN takes more skill than stock, thought this was general consensus
When will we see more cross promotional items? I miss them.
>>340672085
>tfw the RIFT items still suck shit
>>340670678
>Which is not always the case.
It is with a competent team. Stand near the combo, recieve heals, shoot heads. They do this because it is the best way to keep their Sniper alive. Do you only play pubs? It seems like it.
If it's a pub and overheals aren't available, as the other guy said, you stand somewhere that a Sentry is watching your back. Spies trying to shoot you with Ambassador from the back will get gibbed, Spies trying to shoot you with Ambassador from the front have a worse gun for the job in a straight snipe-off than your Rifle. As an example, BLU Sniper on the last point of Badwater Basin looking toward the pit, with a level 3 Sentry nest behind you.
>you will be at low health. even in your vid the sniper dies shortly after
Barycenter was busy taunting his opponent and fucking around instead of running away.
>They only get to be in perfect safety if they are always near the team, which again, is nto always the case.
if you're in a competitive team this IS always the case, because they've discovered this is the strongest strategy for winning which all 9v9 teams use. If you're in a pub, you just stand near Sentry Guns, or in a corner at most so that Spies have to shoot you roughly within your vision.
>Razorback is not worth the loss of SMG
don't be fucking ridiculous mate.
>>340670751
Condolences? I got it for $4 of keys and sold it for $150 of keys, I'm fucking laughing mate. Bought Dawn of War with the Steam emone so far.
>>340671785
wow dude
you killed people in a pub
how can you do it
>>340671158
>Its not that Demo isnt balanced, its that everyone else sucks. Spy Heavy and Pyro are terrible.
>Rescue Ranger time
>Its Cost-Free, Risk free, more efficient heals from a distance.
If you think about the Crusader's Crossbow, its ultimately better to not use that weapon unless you're in a pinch. It it no way will out build uber than the stock medigun and the lack of Overheal puts it in a side grade position.
Now lets look at hte Rescue ranger.
It heals BETTER than the wrench at a distance for no metal, it is flat out better to use this thing than just to whack it with your wrench. Not only is it free and faster at healing, it can be done from saftey. Hiding around a corner with your dispenser.
Know I know what you're thinking
>But you're worse at 1v1 fights
Engineer isn't the type of class who should be winning 1v1 fights with his primary alone. Even with a stock shotgun you'd be out gunned by most of the classes. This downside is pointless considering its already a downside of the class itself.
If you really need to fight someone 1v1, you still could be bringing that infinite ammo pistol, and just melee them.
It gives so many upsides with one negligible downside.
Its a bullshit weapon.
>>340671763
>being this buttblasted about people liking things you don't like
>>340671763
Are these not people running the game on their computer?
>>340672237
I have 4,000 hours. It's safe to say, I like this game.
But people saying LE GAME IS NOT DEAD 60,000 PLAYERS LE XD
Is fucking wrong.
>>340672263
Yes but counting the potatoes who literally score 0.1 points per minute as players in a multiplayer team work based game is fucking bullshit.
>4000+ hours
all for nothing.... I thought I was good
>came into thread expecting pdate
>no update
damn...
>>340672389
But having 60000 players and being one of the largest games on steam is how to define, not dead.
>>340671201
>terrible design choices
Meanwhile, said terrible design choices were a part of Overwatch from the very beginning. "KEEP CALM AND TRACER ON, LOVE! XDDD!!!"
>outside of 6vs6 and highlander fags who wasted their life on a f2p dress up game.
Their lives are irrelevant to TF2's skill ceiling. TF2's skill ceiling>>>>>>Overhyped's skill ceiling.
>pooo poooo pooo
Yes, I mention visual clutter. Overwatch is full of giant HUD elements, screen blanket tint, and fucking FLOATY LITTLE SHIT EVERYWHERE.
While TF2's artstyle has strayed, visual clarity and readability is still extremely strong. The most silhouette-damaging thing in the game is the banana hat, but even so, you can tell from the rest of the class's body what they are. Unlike Overcrotch, there isn't shitty generic glowy shit with 1000 00000 0000 particles flying out of every class's gun everytime anything happens.
>>340672589
You can say that about literally every multiplayer game
You're gonna have to define "dead"
>>340651481
Why is no one on the /v/ server right now?
>>340672791
Because your server SUCKS
