>MMOs are closing servers, going F2P/P2W, or going 12+ months without a major content update
>But not this one
How does FFXIV do it /v/ ?
>>340184512
Because it's a good Themepark MMO that expands on WoWs core mechanics that made it fun to play back then.
Because it's good.
>>340184512
It's WoW with better graphics and a passionate dev team.
Did they finally add more raids and shit? It did go several months after expan launch with barely a full raid and trials that didn't mean jackshit
>>340184786
>Yoshi P
>passionate
The guy may have saved the fucking game after the rerelease but I wouldn't call him that currently.
>>340184794
There's five 24-man raids, with the 6th being added tomorrow.
>Tfw 24 hour maintenance
It's gonna be worth it for patch 3.3 tomorrow
Is it still 3 second global cooldowns and overall super boring combat?
>>340184786
You have a weird definition of passionate.
>>340184997
Oops meant four, with 5th being added tomorrow.
>>340184512
Heavenshill thread? Heavenshill thread.
https://youtu.be/EPmeKA5-03M
>$20 sub and cash shop
>>340185078
You clearly only played low level Lancer.
Its a lot faster at the higher levels
>>340184786
>a passionate dev team.
>first thing they do after releasing their first xpac is take a vacation
>expansion was just 2.0 2.0, in a bad way
>patches follow the same formula every time
They're just coasting
>>340184951
>>340185131
If you guys don't think the core team is passionate or somewhere near that level, y'all just have a chip on your shoulder. Yoshi P alone putting in constant events, interviews, constantly listening to feedback and constantly always showing himself.
Also 3.3, get hype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPmeKA5-03M&feature=youtu.be
>>340184512
By recycling dungeons and other shit as "content". You can shit stuff out when you can reuse everything
It has the most dedicated, autistic, loyalist fan base outside of vanilla WoW nerds.
They've found a comfortable pattern of putting out content while dodging any questions of adding more classes (that people want to see) in game while simultaneously admitting that too many classes was XI's downfall.
>>340184691
Fpbp
>>340184512
Because it's shit but enough autistic weebtards buy cash shop and merchandise shit to make up for all the subs it bleeds every day.
>>340185279
Sub is only $12 if you use one character per server which is fine since you can literally play every class/job on one character.
Cash shop makes bank selling fantasias and old event gear people missed
>still no asses
>>340185374
>a hack producer constantly going on vacations and tours and wasting the game's budget is a good thing
L O L
O
L
>>340184512
Much like WoW it is a powerful IP that has diehard fans. Both games could shit the bed hard and truth be told FFXIV did but people will still keep playing
>>340184512
Remember when FFXIV was blunder of the century before ARR?
Good times.
Pshh, you niggas know nothing of surviving the MMO world.
>2016
>tfw I'm still playing FFXI
>14 fucking years running
>Full expansion just came out in 2013
>Game still gets monthly balance and content updates despite console support dying
>Still pulling enough people to charge a sub fee and not put in shitty microtransaction stuff
>Still have tons of friends and stuff to do with them
>Still have a submissive healslut to bring with me to everything.
>Game will never get better, all money it makes is used on other projects like Hold O to Win XV
Why did I even play this
>>340185884
Part of FFXV team is moving to XIV's new expansion team
>>340185884
>plays too safe
>does the same shit every patch
>mfw the only thing you can't predict is gear look now
>>340184786
>YoshiP
>Passionate
The game is a WoW clone that's followed the EXACT SAME formula since the game relaunched, and even the expansion was just a formulaic rehash that just washed away all the old content to replace it with basically nothing.
>>340186034
Palace of the dead looks like they trying something different with a horizontal progression system instead of their typical vertical ilvl progression.
>>340185825
>14 years
Nigger, that shit didn't even come out until 2004.
2003 if you're Japanese.
And it went to shit pretty hard after 2010. I quit after eight years, in 2012.
>>340185825
It's so sad reading interviews where they talk about how they were just told one day to wrap it up and make Rhapsodies and about how their team is much smaller than it was, but they'll keep working on the game until they can't anymore.
It's sad to know there will almost certainly never be another expansion
Because they understand that the key to doing well as an mmo is catering to the more casual market.
If something like 10% of the players ever raid then you don't focus on them if you want to do well.
All the crafting shit and retainers and housing etc etc etc is what keeps people subbed for the most part. Even raiding guilds I've been in have had a large chunk of people spending hours and hours and hours making furniture and shit.
>>340185825
I haven't played since like 2008 and I assume my character is deleted by now.
RIP in pennies my 75 MNK/BRD/PUP, there will never be a dude as cool as you.
>>340184512
Private server when?
>>340186183
Reminder this is what everyone said about Diadem and to a lesser extent Hunts
>>340186189
FFXI released in 2002 in Japan
>>340185991
Can only hope so. DIdnt they say they were dropping ps3 support with 4.0? Would be nice to see another graphical improvement, though some new gameplay elements would be betterRed mage please
>>340185884
All the money XIV makes goes on to fund useless shit tours, VsXIII/XV's money was funneled to XIV for years, not the other way around.
XIV having no funds is a shit redditor apologist meme, the game has plenty of funds and devs, and considering Yoshida is the head of the entire Division 5, their MMO division, he can get all the funding he wants whenever he wants.
>>340185669
Wow, they took a break after launching their first expansion pack they worked extremely hard for, yet simultaneously did the most successful expansion launch in probably history.
Admittedly the 3.0 to 3.1 drought was rough, so I guess he's a hack.
And 3.3 has 2 dungeons, trials, a new map zone, deep dungeons, a frontlines map, new crafting gear, a new 24 man raid, beast tribe, hilde, a new raid finder for low pop servers, another anima step and like 300+ houses or something but I guess we need to keep him locked down so the budget doesn't get wasted.
And this was done in three and a half months from 3.2.
Are there any websites that notify you when servers come back up?
>>340186413
If the game has such a big budget then why is there no fucking content in the game unless you're a poopsocking raider?
The midcore of the game might as well not even exist, because it doesn't.
>>340186183
It's only horizontal within that dungeon, the rewards themselves will be shit catch up gear just like the rest of the gear in this patch. It'll be a shit addition in the end and as unsupported as Diadem and LoV.
Because they fucked it up extremely badly the first time and actually learned from their mistakes
>>340186601
Because Yoshida is a hack who keeps wasting the budget on vacations and tours, or useless additions like Lords of shit Abandoned Content Day One and Instanced Hunts.
>>340186560
>3.3
>2 dungeons
>1 trial
>1 24 man
>Filler fluff
Wow amaze sure am looking forward to not doing this all to death in the first 2 weeks and then having nothing to do.
>>340186601
>no midcore content
>what are extreme Primals and savage content
Get gud
![[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv_snapshot_02.30_[2016.04.03_22.27.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AqLu9vJ.jpg "[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv_snapshot_02.30_[2016.04.03_22.27.14].jpg")
>6 story quests
>1 new era
>2 Hildi
Can't wait to finish everything in 3 hours
>>340186601
because they're really bad at making midcore material
hoping palace of the dead has some challenge at the lower floors. they need to stop treating the game as if nobody ever gets good and learns shit.
Though i know there are a lot of people who are exactly that bad
>>340184512
Most other MMOs are shit and WoW is declining. Pretty much an open goal, which is why they remade it so quickly after fucking up the first time.
>>340184512
By having unpaid shills like you.
>>340186560
>yet simultaneously did the most successful expansion launch in probably history.
lol, wotlk sold more on it's first day than FFXIV's peak sub count
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154267/article.html
>>340186775
You mean the ARR extreme primals that are 2 minute facerolls, or the 3 HW EX primals that are literally literally worthless unless you want to grind endlessly for the privilege at getting a 1/8 shot at a fucking bird mount that drops 5% of the time? Wow sign me the HECK up
Oh that just leaves Seph EX which is obsolete as of now, so I guess enjoy your new token bit of midcore that is Nidhogg EX unless people cannot fucking clear it to save their lives.
>>340186369
Rumor is that PS3 support is being dropped for 4.0.
>>340186601
Not him, but I think it's the developer's priorities. There's no midcore, it's all channeled into the leveling experience or the hardcore raids. Not to mention the resources that get channeled into the frill stuff, like houses/furniture/retainers/Golden Saucer/side story quests/etc. The stuff they do try to introduce (Verminion, Diadem) is poorly managed and altogether useless.
>>340184512
dead ass game
>>340185264
chills every time. how did they get so good at patch trailers?
>>340187135
But then you're left with nothing to do once you get to 60, unless you managed to get an 8man clique together that manages to stay together more than a month or 2.
>>340187217
>still reposting his shitty webm that only shows 30 players at best, that anyone can count themselves
>he still thinks big ugly glowing names with a title beneath them can fool anyone into thinking there are more people than they really are
>>340185541
He probably lives in some shithole country where the sub costs that much.
>>340187296
By wasting half the game's budget on useless shit like trailers.
>>340187356
Exactly, nothing except the gear treadmill.
I took an 8 month break for that exact reason. Just came back to do story stuff and maybe find a static.
>new update coming
>get excited
>actual content only lasts 2 days at the most
>after that wind up doing nothing but the new daily/weekly chores
Why do I keep getting excited? Whats wrong with me?
>>340186743
>Filler fluff
Aww jeez if the game doesn't at least have 13 dungeons and 34 raids how can I enjoy myself?
That's why people like so much WoW lately isn't it? Because after you are done raiding for the day, you just log out, because there's no reason to stick around. If you want to play an MMO with nothing but combat, you shouldn't be lurking around XIV ever, nor try to make it more like other games, combat stuff is great but I don't want nothing but combat stuff, I'll happily take that "fluff".
>>340187019
In terms of stable launches genius, not sales. They created two level 50 zones to naturally filler all the players and then instanced them too temporarily so people could continuously play without getting error messages.
>>340187217
>bunny potato
How do I get one?
>>340187471
they're not even that hard to make. its all in game footage that they got during testing
>>340187561
that boi ain't right
>>340184512
>Content finder
>ilvl
>Instanced everything
>Solo based progression
>artificial lockouts that gate everyone into 8 man statics
>No open world content
>Mobs are vanilla exp bags
>Non existent class customization
>2.5s Global Cooldown
>Engine garbage skill pathing (can walk right into boss abilities when they're done channeling)
>Every boss encounter is a completely scripted simon says dance routine with insta-wipe mechanics
>Teleporting everywhere completely destroying any sense of scale of the world
>Time of day and weather patterns, worshiped deity, race selection, elements etc all have absolutely no impact leaving the game feeling shallow
>Worst itemization I've ever seen in an MMO, gear has no unqiue statsics and is pure vertical stat scaling
>Story quests are bogged down with endless fetch quests, completely destroying the pace of the plot
>Aesthetic is fucking trashed with tacky vanity mounts and pets and gear and glowing weapons and bikinis everywhere
>no world pvp option
>no voice acting
>everything is instanced; even zones
>repetitive busy-work simulator
>combat is sluggish and doesn't feel fun
>a vast majority of raid content is way too easy
>too many lockouts
>everyone looks the same
>way too easy to get big fuck-off mounts so every has big fuck off mounts
>can't tell who the good players are and the bad players are; they all look the same
exp:
>new classes inferior compared to old classes
>renamed and reskinned skills for new classes from old classes
>2 dungeons
>no outdoor content that isn't daily piss
>lag is still in the game
>gated zones even with flying enabled
>back and forward pie main and side quests still in the game
>copy pasted monsters
>main story and duties are still solo based progression in an MMO
>deity and weather are still pointless
>half-assed voice acting, half aren't even there
Awful game, played the expansion for a week and quit. And to make it worse, it's filled with dumb final fantasy kids and waifufags.
>>340184512
I started subbing today but they have world maintenance so can't play until tomorrowfuck me I am an idiot
>>340187561
drk was considered better than pld in all respects for majority of 3.0 and 3.1
can't top war though
>>340185212
Oops meant three, with 4th being added tomorrow.
>only care about the story but don't want to waste $18 on a 6 quests patch
Don't spoil Estinien's fate.
>2.5s GCD
This mmo was one of the most boring mmos I've ever played, and I played many.
How the fuck is it not dead yet?
>>340187915
weebs
>>340187915
bots
>>340187661
I've never seen a post with so much blatant misinformation. Maybe you should play the game before criticizing it.
>>340187661
>no voice acting
What?
>Time of Day/Weather having no impact
You clearly don't gather.
>2.5 GCD
Play classes with more oGCDs then.
Rest of it is pretty accurate, but deliberate game design and story design.
>>340187915
>popular MMOs dying
If WoW can survive after all of these years, then any MMO has a chance to do the same thing.
when you enter in deliverance as a warrior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iQ1EeN_fbw
>>340187903
It's best not to be on /v/ at all until you catch up, then.
>>340186829
>hoping palace of the dead has some challenge at the lower floors. they need to stop treating the game as if nobody ever gets good and learns shit.
Remember steppes of faith? They tried that, but when it was too hard the community cried. The dev team no longer has faith in our skill levels
>>340187561
don't mean to be rude but you are basically a sheep. you just follow everything the leader does.
>>340188436
to be fair, steps of faith was main storyline AND a gate for heavensward. can't have the storyline babs do anything remotely challenging otherwise they won't get their cinematic experience
>>340188436
As much as I hate how casual focused the game is, Steps of Faith was a required fight
>>340184512
FFXI came out in 2002, and by 2004-5 it had the following relevant content once you got to level cap
>Sky
>Sea
>Dynamis
>CoP Dynamis
>Relics
>Limbus
>NMs
>HNMs
>14 other jobs to level
>Boatloads of good gear to collect
FFXIV came out in 2010, and as of tomorrow the following content is relevant to level cap jobs
>Alexander Savage
>Nidhogg EX
>Relics
>Weeping City of Mhach
>11-12 other jobs to level
>Running the gear treadmill
>>340188436
to their credit they didn't nerf it till the next patch. i remember when people were bitching about Titan HM, and they just shrugged
>>340184512
>>MMOs are closing servers, going F2P/P2W, or going 12+ months without a major content update
EVE online doesn't have any of these issues
>>340187879
Oops meant two, with 3rd being added tomorrow.
>>340187915
Cash shop that no-lifers spend a shit ton of money in, as well as name changes and server transfers.
Heavensward is literally the best MMO on PS4, prove me wrong.
>>340188584
>>340188620
>>340188629
The point is that we can't expect the devs to treat us like we're skilled enough outside of raids because when push comes to shove, we'll just cry nerf.
Just like every other MMO community, only 1 in 10 players wants to git gud
>chocobo racing still not cross server
>still no point to it other than fun
>but not cross server so have fun playing with bots in your higher brackets
why is yoshi so cruel
>>340188996
Well they said the lower levels of the palace of the dead is supposed to be harder. so im assuming that means itll at least be harder than dungeons at that point. can only hope as much.
>>340189180
So will we fight Edda herself, or does she have other body parts to throw at us?
>>340188308
>Vaclav theme
>Vaclav uses his fists
>Vaclav does not use an axe
It's easy, OP.
>Those MMO's
No cat girls.
>This MMO
Delicious cat girls.
when was the last time you had fun in this game?
>>340188436
Step of Faith is at last 30 minutes with random, hate it so much.
>>340184512
Because Square knows how to budget and it's backed by the power of borderline salve labor Jap dev power. Their willpower is off the charts and they work around the clock.
They don't need a gorrilion subs to make a profit, and they don't blow a majority of the game's budget on marketing.
FFXI is their most profitable game of all time, and it never cracked 500k subs.
>>340189329
T12
>>340189272
{boot shine}
>>340189257
She'll throw her dead fiancee's dick at you this time.
>>340187579
>Aww jeez
>>>/reddit/
>>340189315
Sure, bet they are no Mithra
>>340189329
I always have fun whenever I rerun a primal.
After spending so long on a7s/a8s, primal fights are fun, hype, and not frustrating.
>>340189031
With the 50% event and the 10% FC buff, I was getting 1615mgp per race. I got Fenrir/Cloud but I still need to race more to collect some pack cards. There's also the dances and gear that is really nice. A bunch of other little stuff too.
Chocobo racing is the best for MGP.
>>340185380
hard modes are not recycles of dungeons, the only thing they recycle is the name of the dungeons, the content from monsters to bosses are different, fuck dungeons though. the lore alone is legit in these games. They are adding content to beast tribes (they didnt have to do this) they seem to care about the world they have built.
>>340189257
Edda can fuck off, this is a duskwight dungeon, not hyur.
>>340189315
XIV has the shittiest cat girls though.
BLM here
How do all you other faggots feel about being second fiddle?
>>340189329
When I turned off the game and went to play TF2 instead.
>>340189573
They were fine in 1.0.
>>340189535
They must have buffed MGP drops then, because at first release of the minigame I was the top racer on my server and it was commonly known that racing was subpar compared to trouncing that one guy in Mor Dhona at cards really fast. Nice to see it got a buff I guess but still, racing bots isn't fun.
>>340185560
this
what the fuck yoshi give me my asses back
>>340189642
>Outparsed both BLMs in expert yesterday
>As SCH
Feels fine.
>>340189713
Still a downgrade
>>340189642
BLM is yoshi p's favorite job, it will never be second fiddle.
they currently do the best dps in the game in both single target and aoe
>>340189462
i doubt she kept it, given at the very least she made out with her fiance's severed head
whats really important is will she still be a 'sweet '''innocent''' conjurer that just wants to see her love back' or has she gone full batshit, complete with gollum from lotr style camera angle switches talking to herself?
>>340189569
the one from the lancer quest can show up too, as he too fell off a cliff in the shroud
>>340189329
2.55
then I had fun again for like a month or two during 3.2 patch
3.0 and 3.3 are p bad, 3.1 is shamefully bad
>>340189765
But anon, then they couldn't cut corners by making all the armor sets fit all the races and genders with minimal work, just like why tails clip out of your clothes instead of having a hole cut out.
>>340189886
i don't even play a tailed race and this bugs me
>>340189492
What a passionate reply, Yoshi P works across the clock, continuously bringing content and trying to make things interesting with his team and you can't even muster the will to reply to a comment. Why can't we be more like you?
>>340189642
I'm a nin, I will always be #1.
If you bother me I will smokescreen the tank and shadewalk you.
>>340185560
>>340189765
ps3 limitations, please understand.
>>340187847
that's only because DRK does more damage as Main Tank than PLD... the end game explanation was that DRK had better magic mitigation vs the end game savage raid boss.. but it is mostly because more DPS = faster win.
Honestly I've kind of come to hate the game, after playing on Nostalrius and BDO and OSRS. It's literally a single player game until you get to the dungeons, and even then they are so piss easy that one person playing 2 accounts could definitely do them alone until like level 40. The piss easiness continues right until max when you can do the raid content that, while fun, is basically all there is to do. Grinding relics isn't fun, grinding new classes to max on fates or piss easy dungeons isn't fun.
Combined with the fact that even at cap, you don't ever need other players for anything other than killing shit, the game world feels dead. Yeah there are a lot of people sitting in this lobby with you but that is all it is. There is no point to crafting, no point to gathering, no point to anything because other players will never need or want your services.
>>340189809
Foulques isn't important, I want duskwight stories about their past, not cheap fanservice.
How to fix this game:
Thigh slider
Hip slider
Waist slider
Ass slider
Larger breasts
More face customization
I'm tired of this sameface samebody shit. I'd enjoy this game 20 times more if it had at least Blade and Soul's character customization.
>>340190004
>NIN
>beating anything but a MCH/BRD
Times must have changed since 3.1
>>340189779
>shit players
>having any effect on how useful the job they play is
>>340189994
>Gear treadmill themepark MMO
>Adds 2-3 new things to do every several months
>People get sick of it after 2 weeks
>"WOW JUST BE HAPPY THERE'S EVEN CONTENT TO DO AND THAT THEY MAKE MORE"
Maybe they should have designed a game that keeps all the shit they make relevant for more than half a fucking month if they don't want people to bitch, like, oh I dunno, the last MMO they made? FFXI had like a thousand things to do at level cap that stayed important for almost the entire game's lifespan, up until they murdered it for XIV.
ffxiv is the best mmo after guild wars 1
Who DoH/DoL hereWhat do I do to gear up at lvl 50/51, just get HQ lvl 51? and so on?
>>340190260
You can be replaced by a monk or smn, I can't.
>>340190330
XIV is shit.
Just because they refuse to go F2P doesnt mean they are doing well. Even the lowest pop P2P game can stay afloat. They just value grorious Japanese honor over profits apparently.
>>340190391
wasting money
just do your blue scrip turn ins if you've unlocked it to 60 and then re-gear
>>340190253
check out this erp fag
>>340190526
All my DoH/DoL are 50-51
>>340190391
I bought HQ Patrician set.
>>340190473
if they weren't doing well, they wouldn't do fan fests and release yearly expansions
>>340185264
That's a really nice looking game imo.
Hope to give it a try when I eventually buy a good gaming PC
>>340189573
Still better than no cat girls.
>>340190535
I don't erp, but I want my character to look nice and not a duplicate of every other character.
>>340190706
HW came out a year ago and there's no way 4.0 is coming out this year
>>340184951
You have to be very passionate to put this majestic wholeness on a MMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg
by delivering the bare minimum of content to keep the playerbase strung along between patches, and selling shitloads of cosmetic cash shop stuff plus the sub fee.
>Crafting is near useless
>Have to have all the crafts at 50 to even be worthwhile
>Forcing the largest grind and bullshit time investment into a crafting system that's as marginalized as XIV's
Who the fuck is in charge of this game
>not worth resubbing until 4.0
>will have to pay $60 for the ala mhigger expansion
>>340190864
So don't bother, it's gonna be shit anyway.
>>340189809
Maybe she can try being a noob villain, clumsily cackling and second guessing her own evil speeches.
>>340190864
wasn't the expansion 40 bucks as well as the base game?
>>340190864
>it will be the same shit as HW but with boats or some bullshit like that
>>340190253
If 1.0 had this mod, why can't 2.0 have something similar?
>>340185078
>>340190980
thank looks like photoshop anon
how do you guys feel about playing a ps3 mmo
>>340191007
All this was only 3 button presses.
>>340189329
I hope this game has some basic ui customization because this fuckfest is unbearable.
>>340190980
PS3 limitations
I quit this game because my new job's hours were shit for raiding. Sucks :/
>It's a 'salty XI fags crying because a good game replaced their shitty grindfest' episode
>>340191068
FFXI was great and that was a PS2 mmo. What's your point?
>>340184512
That's not eve online.
>>340191086
It's the whole Ninja opener.
Only the last mudra combination was 5 buttons by itself.
>>340191007
>flashy particle effects = good combat
And it's still slow as fuck.
At least you didn't post the dragoon one where he was just smashing buttons
>>340191007
>FFXI
>Weapon skills take time to build TP for
>The visual and damage burst is noticeable and impressive for the whole party
>FFXIV
>Weapon skills are spammed infinitely
>Nobody has any idea what you're doing because the screen is covered in particle effects and flying numbers
>Everyone else is too busy fighting their hotbar to notice or even care what you're up to
>Only way to tell what's going on is with a parser
>>340190820
I stayed away from crafting thinking this but you level them super fast via leves and grand company turn ins and it's far from being useless when it makes you rich.
>>340191007
>This awful as fuck rotation
Spotted the fucking shitter who doesn't have a fucking clue as to how to play Ninja properly
>It's a lalafell
What a shock
>>340191132
That's probably the one thing the game does right in terms of UI
You can move any piece of ui wherever. On the other hand, they still have not released an addon api despite talking about it since before release because they're deathly afraid people will make damage meters to bully people who suck at the game (damage meters already exist even without an official way to make addons)
>>340191390
please mr pro enlighten us as to how it's done
>>340191252
DQX isn't ever getting localized though.
>>340191384
But gil is almost as useless as crafting.
>>340191376
>a 2013 game has better graphics and has diferent gameplay than one released on 2002.
Totally new.
>>340191376
>FFXI
>you do literally nothing but stand in front of the mob waiting for auto-attacks to hit and build TP so you can finally do something
Fixed.
ITT: people who doesn't actually know a thing about what is going on the mmo market outside of their own mmo
That is the cruel fact. There is a mmo that has only been growing in the last 2 years, and /v/ hasnt even heard of it.
i would love to tell what mmo it is but i dont want to ruin the playerbase
>>340191376
>FFXI
>Do nothing but wait until you have enough TP to perform one flashy attack
>Proceed to stroke your dick at the shiny big numbers
>FFXIV
>Gameplay consists of intricate rotations that you have to keep up while taking care of the fight's mechanics
>You can disable the effects in case it bothers you
>There's no damage meter so people don't circlejerk over their ebin damage and focus on their own personal performance
>>340191646
>a 2013 game has worse art direction and gameplay than one released in 2002
hmm
>>340190310
>Gear treadmill
Yes you are completely right, the gear itself is the least interesting aspect of this entire game for me. But it does come with benefits, the game is extremely tightly balanced (Until they nerf/ilvl inflate) since the variables are so tightly controlled and it makes you focus more on playing as a team since it's all about your own ability and not gear.
>2-3 new things
If you only play a specific ascept of XIV for say only the combat, you will be in trouble. This is a game where there is a lot of stuff to do. I would recommend a Tera or something. But they do listen to feedback, deep dungeons will help the "COMBAT OR AFK" players. These things do require time and they do try new things, even if it goes wrong sometimes like Diadem.
>People get sick of it
Well yeah, if I only played for lore's I'd question why I play too.
If you play like you mention, play it for like 30 days. If you enjoy trying all sorts of things, you'll enjoy everything the new patch brings and will be less focused on 2 DUNGEONS.
I play a lot, I do the raids, crafting, leveling, gathering, maps (My small FC gathered 100+ for Aquaolis), PvP (Which is surprisingly good) and all the trimmings. I was actually wishing for 1 extra week to get ready for 3.3 because I was getting overwhelmed with the stuff I still wanted to do. I know not every player can play like that, but this is not a pure combat MMO.
>>340190820
Crafting was literally a huge boon for raid progression in 3.2 and even allowed raid teams to skip on grinding Midas Normal at all. What the fuck are you talking about.
>>340191807
>intricate rotationshere comes the part where you post the shitty DRG pic
>>340191798
Wildstar is dead anon, just let it go.
>>340191646
>PS3 game worse than a PS2 game
Some things never change.
since the servers are down, I'm so bored.
overwatch is normie shit, league of legends sucks, dark souls 3 is infested with hackers, and WoW is dead.
>>340191973
he's obviously talking about Legion
>>340191807
>No damage meter
Get a load of this guy
>>340191968
Post a more complicated rotation then
>>340191787
Looks like someone isn't stacking haste or blink tanking |:^)
>>340191973
I said it was growing.
Wildstar is the complete opposite of that
>>340191813
All the company's competent art directors understandably left that shithole years ago, Akihiko Yoshida was the last to finally jump ship in 2013, just a couple months after ARR's release.
>>340185541
There is no reason to have a cash shop for a sub based game.
FFXI has been out for 14 years now and it still has no cash shop and you can still pick up all the past event items.
>>340191469
Not even him, but the guy did suiton fucking last. and did he just duality into raw uncomboed aeolian?
Who here on Balmung is going for a house when servers come up?
>>340192160
>still
Nexon jewgooks will fix that.
>Bard is shit for literally all of one patch
>Yoshi P buffs the shit out of their DPS in every way imaginable
>Nocturnal Sect on AST has been shit since Heavensward came out
>Yoshi P keeps giving out band-aid buffs
AST can clear all the relevant content that's out right now; this fucking touch-up to Aspected Helios doesn't change the core problems wrong with the fucking Sect.
Diurnal Sect is fine. Yoshi doesn't understand that to make Nocturnal Sect good, they need to:
>Give AST some sort of passive healing equivalent to match that of the fairy
>Increase AST's DPS
>Make it so that Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition are complete garbage when in Nocturnal
They've acknoweledged that SCH is an overpowered piece of shit and they've been hinting that the class needs to be toned down, but jesus fucking christ it's so mind bogging that they treat AST like a problem child...yet the buff anyone else who falls behind almost immediately.
All of this and we're supposed to potentially be getting another healer come 4.0? Jesus christ.
>>340192146
Still boggles my mind how completely shit the art direction is for XIV compared to XI though, even given that fact.
Not that it even really matters because you replace gear sets every 2 months anyway.
>>340192295
SCH is fine, the problem is Arcanist.
Just fix the base job and you'll fix both SMN and SCH in 1 go.
Better yet just throw it in the trash and have all jobs start at 1.
>tfw been able to pay for my sub through gil
Being a specialist crafter has its perks
>>340192471
>afk for dota and csgo items
>sell them for steam wallet bucks
>use it to for sub
thank you gabe newell
>>340192295
At least you have mp.
>>340192160
That will soon change, though in a different FFXI. They've also added plenty of potential cash shop shit to FFXI in the recent years, the biggest ones being Trusts and other log in campaign rewards.
They've kept them solely as campaign rewards, but since Yoshida the Hack is in charge of the entire MMO division and also oversees FFXI, and was also the one who picked Nexon to handle the mobile port, you can expect that to change one day.
What MMO has the best crafting and economy right now?
>>340192295
I feel like WAR and SCH are the dev's pet classes. Paladin being a horrible tank in Heavensward was obvious as early as 3.0 but the devs at first were reluctant to even admit the imbalance existed, then they threw some extremely small buffs in 3.1, followed by finally giving some decent buffs in 3.2. They also utterly refuse to nerf WAR, even though the class is so humongously overpowered that building a static group of PLD/DRK is nerfing yourself for no benefit.
>>340184786
there's passion and then there berrehe
>>340192661
FFXIV
>>340192638
Oh boy, they're making XI look like it's made of plastic, just like XIV.
I HOPE YOU FAGGOTS LIKE HUNTS
CUS UNSTAINED MARK LOGS ARE BACK
>>340192146
>Akihiko Yoshida
>he's working on the new Nier
That niggas my husbando
>>340192797
What are they used for now?
>>340192797
what are those
>>340192672
Last thing we need is making some jobs less fun.
>>340192873
Lore upgrades.
>>340192873
The same shit they're always used for, to play catchup by grinding them for gear upgrade items.
>>340192873
>>340192876
IF THEY FUNCTION LIKE REGULAR MARK LOGS
6 IS A LEFT SIDE LORE UPGRADE 4 IS A RIGHT SIDE LORE UPGRADE
>>340192797
Back? Weren't they used for the wyvern?
>>340192921
>>340192921
when can I upgrade lore weapon through catchup
>>340185038
>tfw endgame crafter
>everything will be worth nothing tomorrow
>>340192638
I WANT THIS GAME SO BADLY
>>340192471
How much gil do you pay your sugardaddy for a month?
>>340193036
3.35 at the earliest.
>>340193029
Those were regular. These are UNSTAINED.
>>340193080
>I want a shitty skinnerbox mobile game that lags on a tablet/phone
>>340193080
>wanting generic korean trash
>>340192083
I genuinely can't think of one, not because DRG is somehow intricate (it isn't), but because rotations are an extremely bad way to design a class.
1 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> (5 or 6) 7 8 -> 9 -> 0 (5 or 6) repeat
Use the blue shit when the buff is about to come off cd or it's at 20 seconds when you start a combo (or some shit like that, I haven't played in half a year) isn't intricate, especially when you realize -> means you've locked yourself into a linear combo that wouldn't be any different if you mapped it to the same key. The whole thing is just 2 chunks, heavy thrust into chaos thrust combo and that one dot into chaos thrust combo and it NEVER changes. They even encourage dot clipping. It's a completely braindead rotation
>>340190152
The economy is such that if you're like me and play a decent amount but don't grind the shit out of crafting/gathering, sell runs, or rmt there's almost nothing to spend money on unless small houses are available because everything is either trivially cheap or prohibitively expensive.
How difficult and time consuming is the new relic step?
>>340193337
>that one dot into chaos thrust combo
into full thrust combo**
>>340193065
whats that? you dont have 10-30 million gil to instantly upgarde your crafting gear to be relevant for the highest end of crafts? enjoy not making money in time for the market of those items to crash and burn
>>340187217
why does everyone hang out in limsa
all the other cities are empty
>>340193145
Not even a month the person I pay gets me those 60 day time cards for as little as 1.2mil
most people on my server are broke so the prospect of a mil is a big deal to them
>>340193424
We don't know yet. But it's lights again, so it will be easy but take a long time.
>>340191807
>press the main combo sequence as it lights up/alternate between the only two combo sequences
>sometimes move from the side to the ass and back
>use buffs and off GCD abilities in between
>Wow, so intricate
>>340192723
>berrehe
what
>>340193528
Market board and bell proximity to teleport location. It's the only city of the three city-states where the market board isn't behind a loading zone.
>>340193337
It's not intricate but it certainly becomes hard to maintain when you're faced with bosses' mechanics and every fight you have to rethink your rotation based on several factors (which are random sometimes) so you can deal the most DPS.
>>340193065
this is good for a buyers economy
it fucks the jews who don't capitalize fast enough and it allows non crafters to buy things at a low price before they go back up.
>>340193497
30mil gil is toilet paper
but the mats for everything in this patch will be so easy to get money will be even more useless than it already is
Post yfw autists making a mad dash for the housing plots and already starting drama before they even got/didn't get a house.
>be in midsize FC full of retarded internet drama
>last week
>see the group of 6 that's largely instigating on their alts in Mist practicing housing runs
>in their linkshell that I was invited to at some point, they're laughing about how they're going to start their own raid progression FC and when they leave our's is going to die
>last night
>they all jump ship and make their own FC
>hooting and hollering about everyone else being casuals for not wanting to farm Midas Savage for 240 gear when everyone knows the upgrade loot will be made global in the following patch
>they're a rank 1 FC as of maint starting
>need to be rank 6 to purchase free company land
>>340193538
Which server and how do I find people like that? I have 30mil saved and don't wanna keep paying for this shit game, but would gladly pay with gil.
>>340193182
>>340193270
You make it sound like there's something better.
>>340192734
Are you memeing me?
>>340193580
Yeah it's so simple I'm convinced you can deal the most damage with any class on the first try.
>>340191335
this, the particle effects look like such garbage in this game. Why can't we turn them off while leaving spell effects? Jesus, from all the flippy and spinning animations to those, it makes even 4 man fights look like vomit
>>340193901
Balmung
>>340193941
Anyone who isn't a retard can, the game tells you exactly which buttons you need to press by lighting them up, and anyone can read ability descriptions and easily figure out the rest.
Got to lvl 50 and was bored as fuck.
What MMO should I play?
I've played WoW and this so far but now that nost is gone, that's out of the question?
Preferably japanese and on steam
>>340191335
>>340193973
you can turn off the particle effects in the options you retards
>3.3 adds Moogle/Dragon Beast Tribe Dailies
>It's Ixali 2.0
I don't give a single fuck about crafting, it's already hard enough trying to grind every combat job to 60.
>>340193812
it's still a pain the amount of gil deposit needed to make good stuff. you're either forced to commit to crafting all the time or find a niche item to sell until that market crashes
>>340193921
There is, just play the original XI and not this Nexon made, Yoshida approved garbage.
>>340193571
More like alexandrite again.
>>340193901
I'm onSirenand I found my guy when he was complaining about lack of funds in fc chat so I made him an offer
>>340194126
I just did heavensward beast tribes, clan marks, and levelling roulette until I hit 60 on everything. Wasn't that hard.
>>340194180
The amount of effort they put into presenting disgusting relic grinds disturbs me
>Zenith for life
>>340194126
>Ixali
Reminder this never got released
>>340191968
>>340191807
Do people actually memorize rotation combos? I've always just done what was logical, ie damage boosts -> burst like a madman -> maintain damage boosts -> shoot gierskogul when you can -> jump when you can -> not pull a loldrg and die, seems to be working still.
