>MMOs are closing servers, going F2P/P2W, or going 12+ months without a major content update
>But not this one
How does FFXIV do it /v/ ?
>>340184512
Because it's a good Themepark MMO that expands on WoWs core mechanics that made it fun to play back then.
Because it's good.
>>340184512
It's WoW with better graphics and a passionate dev team.
Did they finally add more raids and shit? It did go several months after expan launch with barely a full raid and trials that didn't mean jackshit
>>340184786
>Yoshi P
>passionate
The guy may have saved the fucking game after the rerelease but I wouldn't call him that currently.
>>340184794
There's five 24-man raids, with the 6th being added tomorrow.
>Tfw 24 hour maintenance
It's gonna be worth it for patch 3.3 tomorrow
Is it still 3 second global cooldowns and overall super boring combat?
>>340184786
You have a weird definition of passionate.
>>340184997
Oops meant four, with 5th being added tomorrow.
>>340184512
Heavenshill thread? Heavenshill thread.
https://youtu.be/EPmeKA5-03M
>$20 sub and cash shop
>>340185078
You clearly only played low level Lancer.
Its a lot faster at the higher levels
>>340184786
>a passionate dev team.
>first thing they do after releasing their first xpac is take a vacation
>expansion was just 2.0 2.0, in a bad way
>patches follow the same formula every time
They're just coasting
>>340184951
>>340185131
If you guys don't think the core team is passionate or somewhere near that level, y'all just have a chip on your shoulder. Yoshi P alone putting in constant events, interviews, constantly listening to feedback and constantly always showing himself.
Also 3.3, get hype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPmeKA5-03M&feature=youtu.be
>>340184512
By recycling dungeons and other shit as "content". You can shit stuff out when you can reuse everything
It has the most dedicated, autistic, loyalist fan base outside of vanilla WoW nerds.
They've found a comfortable pattern of putting out content while dodging any questions of adding more classes (that people want to see) in game while simultaneously admitting that too many classes was XI's downfall.
>>340184691
Fpbp
>>340184512
Because it's shit but enough autistic weebtards buy cash shop and merchandise shit to make up for all the subs it bleeds every day.
>>340185279
Sub is only $12 if you use one character per server which is fine since you can literally play every class/job on one character.
Cash shop makes bank selling fantasias and old event gear people missed
>still no asses
>>340185374
>a hack producer constantly going on vacations and tours and wasting the game's budget is a good thing
L O L
O
L
>>340184512
Much like WoW it is a powerful IP that has diehard fans. Both games could shit the bed hard and truth be told FFXIV did but people will still keep playing
>>340184512
Remember when FFXIV was blunder of the century before ARR?
Good times.
Pshh, you niggas know nothing of surviving the MMO world.
>2016
>tfw I'm still playing FFXI
>14 fucking years running
>Full expansion just came out in 2013
>Game still gets monthly balance and content updates despite console support dying
>Still pulling enough people to charge a sub fee and not put in shitty microtransaction stuff
>Still have tons of friends and stuff to do with them
>Still have a submissive healslut to bring with me to everything.
>Game will never get better, all money it makes is used on other projects like Hold O to Win XV
Why did I even play this
>>340185884
Part of FFXV team is moving to XIV's new expansion team
>>340185884
>plays too safe
>does the same shit every patch
>mfw the only thing you can't predict is gear look now
>>340184786
>YoshiP
>Passionate
The game is a WoW clone that's followed the EXACT SAME formula since the game relaunched, and even the expansion was just a formulaic rehash that just washed away all the old content to replace it with basically nothing.
>>340186034
Palace of the dead looks like they trying something different with a horizontal progression system instead of their typical vertical ilvl progression.
>>340185825
>14 years
Nigger, that shit didn't even come out until 2004.
2003 if you're Japanese.
And it went to shit pretty hard after 2010. I quit after eight years, in 2012.
>>340185825
It's so sad reading interviews where they talk about how they were just told one day to wrap it up and make Rhapsodies and about how their team is much smaller than it was, but they'll keep working on the game until they can't anymore.
It's sad to know there will almost certainly never be another expansion
Because they understand that the key to doing well as an mmo is catering to the more casual market.
If something like 10% of the players ever raid then you don't focus on them if you want to do well.
All the crafting shit and retainers and housing etc etc etc is what keeps people subbed for the most part. Even raiding guilds I've been in have had a large chunk of people spending hours and hours and hours making furniture and shit.
>>340185825
I haven't played since like 2008 and I assume my character is deleted by now.
RIP in pennies my 75 MNK/BRD/PUP, there will never be a dude as cool as you.
>>340184512
Private server when?
>>340186183
Reminder this is what everyone said about Diadem and to a lesser extent Hunts
>>340186189
FFXI released in 2002 in Japan
>>340185991
Can only hope so. DIdnt they say they were dropping ps3 support with 4.0? Would be nice to see another graphical improvement, though some new gameplay elements would be betterRed mage please
>>340185884
All the money XIV makes goes on to fund useless shit tours, VsXIII/XV's money was funneled to XIV for years, not the other way around.
XIV having no funds is a shit redditor apologist meme, the game has plenty of funds and devs, and considering Yoshida is the head of the entire Division 5, their MMO division, he can get all the funding he wants whenever he wants.
>>340185669
Wow, they took a break after launching their first expansion pack they worked extremely hard for, yet simultaneously did the most successful expansion launch in probably history.
Admittedly the 3.0 to 3.1 drought was rough, so I guess he's a hack.
And 3.3 has 2 dungeons, trials, a new map zone, deep dungeons, a frontlines map, new crafting gear, a new 24 man raid, beast tribe, hilde, a new raid finder for low pop servers, another anima step and like 300+ houses or something but I guess we need to keep him locked down so the budget doesn't get wasted.
And this was done in three and a half months from 3.2.
Are there any websites that notify you when servers come back up?
>>340186413
If the game has such a big budget then why is there no fucking content in the game unless you're a poopsocking raider?
The midcore of the game might as well not even exist, because it doesn't.
>>340186183
It's only horizontal within that dungeon, the rewards themselves will be shit catch up gear just like the rest of the gear in this patch. It'll be a shit addition in the end and as unsupported as Diadem and LoV.
Because they fucked it up extremely badly the first time and actually learned from their mistakes
>>340186601
Because Yoshida is a hack who keeps wasting the budget on vacations and tours, or useless additions like Lords of shit Abandoned Content Day One and Instanced Hunts.
>>340186560
>3.3
>2 dungeons
>1 trial
>1 24 man
>Filler fluff
Wow amaze sure am looking forward to not doing this all to death in the first 2 weeks and then having nothing to do.
>>340186601
>no midcore content
>what are extreme Primals and savage content
Get gud
![[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv_snapshot_02.30_[2016.04.03_22.27.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AqLu9vJ.jpg "[Migoto] Ai Mai Mi - 07 (1280x720 Hi10P AAC) [CA9E20F4].mkv snapshot 02.30 [2016.04.03 22.27.14]")
>6 story quests
>1 new era
>2 Hildi
Can't wait to finish everything in 3 hours
>>340186601
because they're really bad at making midcore material
hoping palace of the dead has some challenge at the lower floors. they need to stop treating the game as if nobody ever gets good and learns shit.
Though i know there are a lot of people who are exactly that bad
>>340184512
Most other MMOs are shit and WoW is declining. Pretty much an open goal, which is why they remade it so quickly after fucking up the first time.
>>340184512
By having unpaid shills like you.
>>340186560
>yet simultaneously did the most successful expansion launch in probably history.
lol, wotlk sold more on it's first day than FFXIV's peak sub count
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154267/article.html
>>340186775
You mean the ARR extreme primals that are 2 minute facerolls, or the 3 HW EX primals that are literally literally worthless unless you want to grind endlessly for the privilege at getting a 1/8 shot at a fucking bird mount that drops 5% of the time? Wow sign me the HECK up
Oh that just leaves Seph EX which is obsolete as of now, so I guess enjoy your new token bit of midcore that is Nidhogg EX unless people cannot fucking clear it to save their lives.
>>340186369
Rumor is that PS3 support is being dropped for 4.0.
>>340186601
Not him, but I think it's the developer's priorities. There's no midcore, it's all channeled into the leveling experience or the hardcore raids. Not to mention the resources that get channeled into the frill stuff, like houses/furniture/retainers/Golden Saucer/side story quests/etc. The stuff they do try to introduce (Verminion, Diadem) is poorly managed and altogether useless.
>>340184512
dead ass game
>>340185264
chills every time. how did they get so good at patch trailers?
>>340187135
But then you're left with nothing to do once you get to 60, unless you managed to get an 8man clique together that manages to stay together more than a month or 2.
>>340187217
>still reposting his shitty webm that only shows 30 players at best, that anyone can count themselves
>he still thinks big ugly glowing names with a title beneath them can fool anyone into thinking there are more people than they really are
>>340185541
He probably lives in some shithole country where the sub costs that much.
>>340187296
By wasting half the game's budget on useless shit like trailers.
>>340187356
Exactly, nothing except the gear treadmill.
I took an 8 month break for that exact reason. Just came back to do story stuff and maybe find a static.
>new update coming
>get excited
>actual content only lasts 2 days at the most
>after that wind up doing nothing but the new daily/weekly chores
Why do I keep getting excited? Whats wrong with me?
>>340186743
>Filler fluff
Aww jeez if the game doesn't at least have 13 dungeons and 34 raids how can I enjoy myself?
That's why people like so much WoW lately isn't it? Because after you are done raiding for the day, you just log out, because there's no reason to stick around. If you want to play an MMO with nothing but combat, you shouldn't be lurking around XIV ever, nor try to make it more like other games, combat stuff is great but I don't want nothing but combat stuff, I'll happily take that "fluff".
>>340187019
In terms of stable launches genius, not sales. They created two level 50 zones to naturally filler all the players and then instanced them too temporarily so people could continuously play without getting error messages.
>>340187217
>bunny potato
How do I get one?
>>340187471
they're not even that hard to make. its all in game footage that they got during testing
>>340187561
that boi ain't right
>>340184512
>Content finder
>ilvl
>Instanced everything
>Solo based progression
>artificial lockouts that gate everyone into 8 man statics
>No open world content
>Mobs are vanilla exp bags
>Non existent class customization
>2.5s Global Cooldown
>Engine garbage skill pathing (can walk right into boss abilities when they're done channeling)
>Every boss encounter is a completely scripted simon says dance routine with insta-wipe mechanics
>Teleporting everywhere completely destroying any sense of scale of the world
>Time of day and weather patterns, worshiped deity, race selection, elements etc all have absolutely no impact leaving the game feeling shallow
>Worst itemization I've ever seen in an MMO, gear has no unqiue statsics and is pure vertical stat scaling
>Story quests are bogged down with endless fetch quests, completely destroying the pace of the plot
>Aesthetic is fucking trashed with tacky vanity mounts and pets and gear and glowing weapons and bikinis everywhere
>no world pvp option
>no voice acting
>everything is instanced; even zones
>repetitive busy-work simulator
>combat is sluggish and doesn't feel fun
>a vast majority of raid content is way too easy
>too many lockouts
>everyone looks the same
>way too easy to get big fuck-off mounts so every has big fuck off mounts
>can't tell who the good players are and the bad players are; they all look the same
exp:
>new classes inferior compared to old classes
>renamed and reskinned skills for new classes from old classes
>2 dungeons
>no outdoor content that isn't daily piss
>lag is still in the game
>gated zones even with flying enabled
>back and forward pie main and side quests still in the game
>copy pasted monsters
>main story and duties are still solo based progression in an MMO
>deity and weather are still pointless
>half-assed voice acting, half aren't even there
Awful game, played the expansion for a week and quit. And to make it worse, it's filled with dumb final fantasy kids and waifufags.
>>340184512
I started subbing today but they have world maintenance so can't play until tomorrowfuck me I am an idiot
>>340187561
drk was considered better than pld in all respects for majority of 3.0 and 3.1
can't top war though
>>340185212
Oops meant three, with 4th being added tomorrow.
>only care about the story but don't want to waste $18 on a 6 quests patch
Don't spoil Estinien's fate.
>2.5s GCD
This mmo was one of the most boring mmos I've ever played, and I played many.
How the fuck is it not dead yet?
>>340187915
weebs
>>340187661
I've never seen a post with so much blatant misinformation. Maybe you should play the game before criticizing it.
>>340187661
>no voice acting
What?
>Time of Day/Weather having no impact
You clearly don't gather.
>2.5 GCD
Play classes with more oGCDs then.
Rest of it is pretty accurate, but deliberate game design and story design.
>>340187915
>popular MMOs dying
If WoW can survive after all of these years, then any MMO has a chance to do the same thing.
when you enter in deliverance as a warrior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iQ1EeN_fbw
>>340187903
It's best not to be on /v/ at all until you catch up, then.
>>340186829
>hoping palace of the dead has some challenge at the lower floors. they need to stop treating the game as if nobody ever gets good and learns shit.
Remember steppes of faith? They tried that, but when it was too hard the community cried. The dev team no longer has faith in our skill levels
>>340187561
don't mean to be rude but you are basically a sheep. you just follow everything the leader does.
>>340188436
to be fair, steps of faith was main storyline AND a gate for heavensward. can't have the storyline babs do anything remotely challenging otherwise they won't get their cinematic experience
>>340188436
As much as I hate how casual focused the game is, Steps of Faith was a required fight
>>340184512
FFXI came out in 2002, and by 2004-5 it had the following relevant content once you got to level cap
>Sky
>Sea
>Dynamis
>CoP Dynamis
>Relics
>Limbus
>NMs
>HNMs
>14 other jobs to level
>Boatloads of good gear to collect
FFXIV came out in 2010, and as of tomorrow the following content is relevant to level cap jobs
>Alexander Savage
>Nidhogg EX
>Relics
>Weeping City of Mhach
>11-12 other jobs to level
>Running the gear treadmill
>>340188436
to their credit they didn't nerf it till the next patch. i remember when people were bitching about Titan HM, and they just shrugged
>>340184512
>>MMOs are closing servers, going F2P/P2W, or going 12+ months without a major content update
EVE online doesn't have any of these issues
>>340187879
Oops meant two, with 3rd being added tomorrow.
>>340187915
Cash shop that no-lifers spend a shit ton of money in, as well as name changes and server transfers.
Heavensward is literally the best MMO on PS4, prove me wrong.
>>340188584
>>340188620
>>340188629
The point is that we can't expect the devs to treat us like we're skilled enough outside of raids because when push comes to shove, we'll just cry nerf.
Just like every other MMO community, only 1 in 10 players wants to git gud
>chocobo racing still not cross server
>still no point to it other than fun
>but not cross server so have fun playing with bots in your higher brackets
why is yoshi so cruel
>>340188996
Well they said the lower levels of the palace of the dead is supposed to be harder. so im assuming that means itll at least be harder than dungeons at that point. can only hope as much.
>>340189180
So will we fight Edda herself, or does she have other body parts to throw at us?
>>340188308
>Vaclav theme
>Vaclav uses his fists
>Vaclav does not use an axe
It's easy, OP.
>Those MMO's
No cat girls.
>This MMO
Delicious cat girls.
when was the last time you had fun in this game?
>>340188436
Step of Faith is at last 30 minutes with random, hate it so much.
>>340184512
Because Square knows how to budget and it's backed by the power of borderline salve labor Jap dev power. Their willpower is off the charts and they work around the clock.
They don't need a gorrilion subs to make a profit, and they don't blow a majority of the game's budget on marketing.
FFXI is their most profitable game of all time, and it never cracked 500k subs.
>>340189329
T12
>>340189272
{boot shine}
>>340189257
She'll throw her dead fiancee's dick at you this time.
>>340187579
>Aww jeez
>>>/reddit/
>>340189315
Sure, bet they are no Mithra
>>340189329
I always have fun whenever I rerun a primal.
After spending so long on a7s/a8s, primal fights are fun, hype, and not frustrating.
>>340189031
With the 50% event and the 10% FC buff, I was getting 1615mgp per race. I got Fenrir/Cloud but I still need to race more to collect some pack cards. There's also the dances and gear that is really nice. A bunch of other little stuff too.
Chocobo racing is the best for MGP.
>>340185380
hard modes are not recycles of dungeons, the only thing they recycle is the name of the dungeons, the content from monsters to bosses are different, fuck dungeons though. the lore alone is legit in these games. They are adding content to beast tribes (they didnt have to do this) they seem to care about the world they have built.
>>340189257
Edda can fuck off, this is a duskwight dungeon, not hyur.
>>340189315
XIV has the shittiest cat girls though.
BLM here
How do all you other faggots feel about being second fiddle?
>>340189329
When I turned off the game and went to play TF2 instead.
>>340189573
They were fine in 1.0.
>>340189535
They must have buffed MGP drops then, because at first release of the minigame I was the top racer on my server and it was commonly known that racing was subpar compared to trouncing that one guy in Mor Dhona at cards really fast. Nice to see it got a buff I guess but still, racing bots isn't fun.
>>340185560
this
what the fuck yoshi give me my asses back
>>340189642
>Outparsed both BLMs in expert yesterday
>As SCH
Feels fine.
>>340189713
Still a downgrade
>>340189642
BLM is yoshi p's favorite job, it will never be second fiddle.
they currently do the best dps in the game in both single target and aoe
>>340189462
i doubt she kept it, given at the very least she made out with her fiance's severed head
whats really important is will she still be a 'sweet '''innocent''' conjurer that just wants to see her love back' or has she gone full batshit, complete with gollum from lotr style camera angle switches talking to herself?
>>340189569
the one from the lancer quest can show up too, as he too fell off a cliff in the shroud
>>340189329
2.55
then I had fun again for like a month or two during 3.2 patch
3.0 and 3.3 are p bad, 3.1 is shamefully bad
>>340189765
But anon, then they couldn't cut corners by making all the armor sets fit all the races and genders with minimal work, just like why tails clip out of your clothes instead of having a hole cut out.
>>340189886
i don't even play a tailed race and this bugs me
>>340189492
What a passionate reply, Yoshi P works across the clock, continuously bringing content and trying to make things interesting with his team and you can't even muster the will to reply to a comment. Why can't we be more like you?
>>340189642
I'm a nin, I will always be #1.
If you bother me I will smokescreen the tank and shadewalk you.
>>340185560
>>340189765
ps3 limitations, please understand.
>>340187847
that's only because DRK does more damage as Main Tank than PLD... the end game explanation was that DRK had better magic mitigation vs the end game savage raid boss.. but it is mostly because more DPS = faster win.
Honestly I've kind of come to hate the game, after playing on Nostalrius and BDO and OSRS. It's literally a single player game until you get to the dungeons, and even then they are so piss easy that one person playing 2 accounts could definitely do them alone until like level 40. The piss easiness continues right until max when you can do the raid content that, while fun, is basically all there is to do. Grinding relics isn't fun, grinding new classes to max on fates or piss easy dungeons isn't fun.
Combined with the fact that even at cap, you don't ever need other players for anything other than killing shit, the game world feels dead. Yeah there are a lot of people sitting in this lobby with you but that is all it is. There is no point to crafting, no point to gathering, no point to anything because other players will never need or want your services.
>>340189809
Foulques isn't important, I want duskwight stories about their past, not cheap fanservice.
How to fix this game:
Thigh slider
Hip slider
Waist slider
Ass slider
Larger breasts
More face customization
I'm tired of this sameface samebody shit. I'd enjoy this game 20 times more if it had at least Blade and Soul's character customization.
>>340190004
>NIN
>beating anything but a MCH/BRD
Times must have changed since 3.1
>>340189779
>shit players
>having any effect on how useful the job they play is
>>340189994
>Gear treadmill themepark MMO
>Adds 2-3 new things to do every several months
>People get sick of it after 2 weeks
>"WOW JUST BE HAPPY THERE'S EVEN CONTENT TO DO AND THAT THEY MAKE MORE"
Maybe they should have designed a game that keeps all the shit they make relevant for more than half a fucking month if they don't want people to bitch, like, oh I dunno, the last MMO they made? FFXI had like a thousand things to do at level cap that stayed important for almost the entire game's lifespan, up until they murdered it for XIV.
ffxiv is the best mmo after guild wars 1
Who DoH/DoL hereWhat do I do to gear up at lvl 50/51, just get HQ lvl 51? and so on?
>>340190260
You can be replaced by a monk or smn, I can't.
>>340190330
XIV is shit.
Just because they refuse to go F2P doesnt mean they are doing well. Even the lowest pop P2P game can stay afloat. They just value grorious Japanese honor over profits apparently.
>>340190391
wasting money
just do your blue scrip turn ins if you've unlocked it to 60 and then re-gear
>>340190253
check out this erp fag
>>340190526
All my DoH/DoL are 50-51
>>340190391
I bought HQ Patrician set.
>>340190473
if they weren't doing well, they wouldn't do fan fests and release yearly expansions
>>340185264
That's a really nice looking game imo.
Hope to give it a try when I eventually buy a good gaming PC
>>340189573
Still better than no cat girls.
>>340190535
I don't erp, but I want my character to look nice and not a duplicate of every other character.
>>340190706
HW came out a year ago and there's no way 4.0 is coming out this year
>>340184951
You have to be very passionate to put this majestic wholeness on a MMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg
by delivering the bare minimum of content to keep the playerbase strung along between patches, and selling shitloads of cosmetic cash shop stuff plus the sub fee.
>Crafting is near useless
>Have to have all the crafts at 50 to even be worthwhile
>Forcing the largest grind and bullshit time investment into a crafting system that's as marginalized as XIV's
Who the fuck is in charge of this game
>not worth resubbing until 4.0
>will have to pay $60 for the ala mhigger expansion
>>340190864
So don't bother, it's gonna be shit anyway.
>>340189809
Maybe she can try being a noob villain, clumsily cackling and second guessing her own evil speeches.
>>340190864
wasn't the expansion 40 bucks as well as the base game?
>>340190864
>it will be the same shit as HW but with boats or some bullshit like that
>>340190253
If 1.0 had this mod, why can't 2.0 have something similar?
>>340190980
thank looks like photoshop anon
how do you guys feel about playing a ps3 mmo
>>340191007
All this was only 3 button presses.
>>340189329
I hope this game has some basic ui customization because this fuckfest is unbearable.
>>340190980
PS3 limitations
I quit this game because my new job's hours were shit for raiding. Sucks :/
>It's a 'salty XI fags crying because a good game replaced their shitty grindfest' episode
>>340191068
FFXI was great and that was a PS2 mmo. What's your point?
>>340184512
That's not eve online.
>>340191086
It's the whole Ninja opener.
Only the last mudra combination was 5 buttons by itself.
>>340191007
>flashy particle effects = good combat
And it's still slow as fuck.
At least you didn't post the dragoon one where he was just smashing buttons
>>340191007
>FFXI
>Weapon skills take time to build TP for
>The visual and damage burst is noticeable and impressive for the whole party
>FFXIV
>Weapon skills are spammed infinitely
>Nobody has any idea what you're doing because the screen is covered in particle effects and flying numbers
>Everyone else is too busy fighting their hotbar to notice or even care what you're up to
>Only way to tell what's going on is with a parser
>>340190820
I stayed away from crafting thinking this but you level them super fast via leves and grand company turn ins and it's far from being useless when it makes you rich.
>>340191007
>This awful as fuck rotation
Spotted the fucking shitter who doesn't have a fucking clue as to how to play Ninja properly
>It's a lalafell
What a shock
>>340191132
That's probably the one thing the game does right in terms of UI
You can move any piece of ui wherever. On the other hand, they still have not released an addon api despite talking about it since before release because they're deathly afraid people will make damage meters to bully people who suck at the game (damage meters already exist even without an official way to make addons)
>>340191390
please mr pro enlighten us as to how it's done
>>340191252
DQX isn't ever getting localized though.
>>340191384
But gil is almost as useless as crafting.
>>340191376
>a 2013 game has better graphics and has diferent gameplay than one released on 2002.
Totally new.
>>340191376
>FFXI
>you do literally nothing but stand in front of the mob waiting for auto-attacks to hit and build TP so you can finally do something
Fixed.
ITT: people who doesn't actually know a thing about what is going on the mmo market outside of their own mmo
That is the cruel fact. There is a mmo that has only been growing in the last 2 years, and /v/ hasnt even heard of it.
i would love to tell what mmo it is but i dont want to ruin the playerbase
>>340191376
>FFXI
>Do nothing but wait until you have enough TP to perform one flashy attack
>Proceed to stroke your dick at the shiny big numbers
>FFXIV
>Gameplay consists of intricate rotations that you have to keep up while taking care of the fight's mechanics
>You can disable the effects in case it bothers you
>There's no damage meter so people don't circlejerk over their ebin damage and focus on their own personal performance
>>340191646
>a 2013 game has worse art direction and gameplay than one released in 2002
hmm
>>340190310
>Gear treadmill
Yes you are completely right, the gear itself is the least interesting aspect of this entire game for me. But it does come with benefits, the game is extremely tightly balanced (Until they nerf/ilvl inflate) since the variables are so tightly controlled and it makes you focus more on playing as a team since it's all about your own ability and not gear.
>2-3 new things
If you only play a specific ascept of XIV for say only the combat, you will be in trouble. This is a game where there is a lot of stuff to do. I would recommend a Tera or something. But they do listen to feedback, deep dungeons will help the "COMBAT OR AFK" players. These things do require time and they do try new things, even if it goes wrong sometimes like Diadem.
>People get sick of it
Well yeah, if I only played for lore's I'd question why I play too.
If you play like you mention, play it for like 30 days. If you enjoy trying all sorts of things, you'll enjoy everything the new patch brings and will be less focused on 2 DUNGEONS.
I play a lot, I do the raids, crafting, leveling, gathering, maps (My small FC gathered 100+ for Aquaolis), PvP (Which is surprisingly good) and all the trimmings. I was actually wishing for 1 extra week to get ready for 3.3 because I was getting overwhelmed with the stuff I still wanted to do. I know not every player can play like that, but this is not a pure combat MMO.
>>340190820
Crafting was literally a huge boon for raid progression in 3.2 and even allowed raid teams to skip on grinding Midas Normal at all. What the fuck are you talking about.
>>340191807
>intricate rotationshere comes the part where you post the shitty DRG pic
>>340191798
Wildstar is dead anon, just let it go.
>>340191646
>PS3 game worse than a PS2 game
Some things never change.
since the servers are down, I'm so bored.
overwatch is normie shit, league of legends sucks, dark souls 3 is infested with hackers, and WoW is dead.
>>340191973
he's obviously talking about Legion
>>340191807
>No damage meter
Get a load of this guy
>>340191968
Post a more complicated rotation then
>>340191787
Looks like someone isn't stacking haste or blink tanking |:^)
>>340191973
I said it was growing.
Wildstar is the complete opposite of that
>>340191813
All the company's competent art directors understandably left that shithole years ago, Akihiko Yoshida was the last to finally jump ship in 2013, just a couple months after ARR's release.
>>340185541
There is no reason to have a cash shop for a sub based game.
FFXI has been out for 14 years now and it still has no cash shop and you can still pick up all the past event items.
>>340191469
Not even him, but the guy did suiton fucking last. and did he just duality into raw uncomboed aeolian?
Who here on Balmung is going for a house when servers come up?
>>340192160
>still
Nexon jewgooks will fix that.
>Bard is shit for literally all of one patch
>Yoshi P buffs the shit out of their DPS in every way imaginable
>Nocturnal Sect on AST has been shit since Heavensward came out
>Yoshi P keeps giving out band-aid buffs
AST can clear all the relevant content that's out right now; this fucking touch-up to Aspected Helios doesn't change the core problems wrong with the fucking Sect.
Diurnal Sect is fine. Yoshi doesn't understand that to make Nocturnal Sect good, they need to:
>Give AST some sort of passive healing equivalent to match that of the fairy
>Increase AST's DPS
>Make it so that Time Dilation and Celestial Opposition are complete garbage when in Nocturnal
They've acknoweledged that SCH is an overpowered piece of shit and they've been hinting that the class needs to be toned down, but jesus fucking christ it's so mind bogging that they treat AST like a problem child...yet the buff anyone else who falls behind almost immediately.
All of this and we're supposed to potentially be getting another healer come 4.0? Jesus christ.
>>340192146
Still boggles my mind how completely shit the art direction is for XIV compared to XI though, even given that fact.
Not that it even really matters because you replace gear sets every 2 months anyway.
>>340192295
SCH is fine, the problem is Arcanist.
Just fix the base job and you'll fix both SMN and SCH in 1 go.
Better yet just throw it in the trash and have all jobs start at 1.
>tfw been able to pay for my sub through gil
Being a specialist crafter has its perks
>>340192471
>afk for dota and csgo items
>sell them for steam wallet bucks
>use it to for sub
thank you gabe newell
>>340192295
At least you have mp.
>>340192160
That will soon change, though in a different FFXI. They've also added plenty of potential cash shop shit to FFXI in the recent years, the biggest ones being Trusts and other log in campaign rewards.
They've kept them solely as campaign rewards, but since Yoshida the Hack is in charge of the entire MMO division and also oversees FFXI, and was also the one who picked Nexon to handle the mobile port, you can expect that to change one day.
What MMO has the best crafting and economy right now?
>>340192295
I feel like WAR and SCH are the dev's pet classes. Paladin being a horrible tank in Heavensward was obvious as early as 3.0 but the devs at first were reluctant to even admit the imbalance existed, then they threw some extremely small buffs in 3.1, followed by finally giving some decent buffs in 3.2. They also utterly refuse to nerf WAR, even though the class is so humongously overpowered that building a static group of PLD/DRK is nerfing yourself for no benefit.
>>340184786
there's passion and then there berrehe
>>340192661
FFXIV
>>340192638
Oh boy, they're making XI look like it's made of plastic, just like XIV.
I HOPE YOU FAGGOTS LIKE HUNTS
CUS UNSTAINED MARK LOGS ARE BACK
>>340192146
>Akihiko Yoshida
>he's working on the new Nier
That niggas my husbando
>>340192797
What are they used for now?
>>340192797
what are those
>>340192672
Last thing we need is making some jobs less fun.
>>340192873
Lore upgrades.
>>340192873
The same shit they're always used for, to play catchup by grinding them for gear upgrade items.
>>340192873
>>340192876
IF THEY FUNCTION LIKE REGULAR MARK LOGS
6 IS A LEFT SIDE LORE UPGRADE 4 IS A RIGHT SIDE LORE UPGRADE
>>340192797
Back? Weren't they used for the wyvern?
>>340192921
>>340192921
when can I upgrade lore weapon through catchup
>>340185038
>tfw endgame crafter
>everything will be worth nothing tomorrow
>>340192638
I WANT THIS GAME SO BADLY
>>340192471
How much gil do you pay your sugardaddy for a month?
>>340193036
3.35 at the earliest.
>>340193029
Those were regular. These are UNSTAINED.
>>340193080
>I want a shitty skinnerbox mobile game that lags on a tablet/phone
>>340193080
>wanting generic korean trash
>>340192083
I genuinely can't think of one, not because DRG is somehow intricate (it isn't), but because rotations are an extremely bad way to design a class.
1 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> (5 or 6) 7 8 -> 9 -> 0 (5 or 6) repeat
Use the blue shit when the buff is about to come off cd or it's at 20 seconds when you start a combo (or some shit like that, I haven't played in half a year) isn't intricate, especially when you realize -> means you've locked yourself into a linear combo that wouldn't be any different if you mapped it to the same key. The whole thing is just 2 chunks, heavy thrust into chaos thrust combo and that one dot into chaos thrust combo and it NEVER changes. They even encourage dot clipping. It's a completely braindead rotation
>>340190152
The economy is such that if you're like me and play a decent amount but don't grind the shit out of crafting/gathering, sell runs, or rmt there's almost nothing to spend money on unless small houses are available because everything is either trivially cheap or prohibitively expensive.
How difficult and time consuming is the new relic step?
>>340193337
>that one dot into chaos thrust combo
into full thrust combo**
>>340193065
whats that? you dont have 10-30 million gil to instantly upgarde your crafting gear to be relevant for the highest end of crafts? enjoy not making money in time for the market of those items to crash and burn
>>340187217
why does everyone hang out in limsa
all the other cities are empty
>>340193145
Not even a month the person I pay gets me those 60 day time cards for as little as 1.2mil
most people on my server are broke so the prospect of a mil is a big deal to them
>>340193424
We don't know yet. But it's lights again, so it will be easy but take a long time.
>>340191807
>press the main combo sequence as it lights up/alternate between the only two combo sequences
>sometimes move from the side to the ass and back
>use buffs and off GCD abilities in between
>Wow, so intricate
>>340192723
>berrehe
what
>>340193528
Market board and bell proximity to teleport location. It's the only city of the three city-states where the market board isn't behind a loading zone.
>>340193337
It's not intricate but it certainly becomes hard to maintain when you're faced with bosses' mechanics and every fight you have to rethink your rotation based on several factors (which are random sometimes) so you can deal the most DPS.
>>340193065
this is good for a buyers economy
it fucks the jews who don't capitalize fast enough and it allows non crafters to buy things at a low price before they go back up.
>>340193497
30mil gil is toilet paper
but the mats for everything in this patch will be so easy to get money will be even more useless than it already is
Post yfw autists making a mad dash for the housing plots and already starting drama before they even got/didn't get a house.
>be in midsize FC full of retarded internet drama
>last week
>see the group of 6 that's largely instigating on their alts in Mist practicing housing runs
>in their linkshell that I was invited to at some point, they're laughing about how they're going to start their own raid progression FC and when they leave our's is going to die
>last night
>they all jump ship and make their own FC
>hooting and hollering about everyone else being casuals for not wanting to farm Midas Savage for 240 gear when everyone knows the upgrade loot will be made global in the following patch
>they're a rank 1 FC as of maint starting
>need to be rank 6 to purchase free company land
>>340193538
Which server and how do I find people like that? I have 30mil saved and don't wanna keep paying for this shit game, but would gladly pay with gil.
>>340193182
>>340193270
You make it sound like there's something better.
>>340192734
Are you memeing me?
>>340193580
Yeah it's so simple I'm convinced you can deal the most damage with any class on the first try.
>>340191335
this, the particle effects look like such garbage in this game. Why can't we turn them off while leaving spell effects? Jesus, from all the flippy and spinning animations to those, it makes even 4 man fights look like vomit
>>340193901
Balmung
>>340193941
Anyone who isn't a retard can, the game tells you exactly which buttons you need to press by lighting them up, and anyone can read ability descriptions and easily figure out the rest.
Got to lvl 50 and was bored as fuck.
What MMO should I play?
I've played WoW and this so far but now that nost is gone, that's out of the question?
Preferably japanese and on steam
>>340191335
>>340193973
you can turn off the particle effects in the options you retards
>3.3 adds Moogle/Dragon Beast Tribe Dailies
>It's Ixali 2.0
I don't give a single fuck about crafting, it's already hard enough trying to grind every combat job to 60.
>>340193812
it's still a pain the amount of gil deposit needed to make good stuff. you're either forced to commit to crafting all the time or find a niche item to sell until that market crashes
>>340193921
There is, just play the original XI and not this Nexon made, Yoshida approved garbage.
>>340193571
More like alexandrite again.
>>340193901
I'm onSirenand I found my guy when he was complaining about lack of funds in fc chat so I made him an offer
>>340194126
I just did heavensward beast tribes, clan marks, and levelling roulette until I hit 60 on everything. Wasn't that hard.
>>340194180
The amount of effort they put into presenting disgusting relic grinds disturbs me
>Zenith for life
>>340194126
>Ixali
Reminder this never got released
>>340191968
>>340191807
Do people actually memorize rotation combos? I've always just done what was logical, ie damage boosts -> burst like a madman -> maintain damage boosts -> shoot gierskogul when you can -> jump when you can -> not pull a loldrg and die, seems to be working still.
>>340194180
Can't wait to waste money on materia again
Or whatever is needed to create sands
>>340194085
>Why can't we turn them off while leaving spell effects
>>340194398
No but you quickly realize that there's a pattern
Damage Boost -> Burst -> Damage Boost -> Burst
>>340189329
About once a week when I run A8. Probably the only enjoyable HW fight to date.
>>340194168
>just play the original XI
It no longer exists.
>>340194465
What about...hunts?
>>340193823
That's hilarious
>>340192295
Just get rid of nocturnal sect altogether and rework AST
>>340193823
>Any MMO
>Some fuck starts drama.
>/gquit.
Not muh problemo.
>>340194779
Better yet just cut the bullshit and let them swap sects in combat.
>>340194068
All MMOs are shit.
>>340194546
I'd say it goes Damage Boost -> Burst -> Maintain, because the cooldowns don't line up for another good burst for a few regular rotations.
>>340194398
Keep your Geirskogul if you've a damage CD coming up or if there's gonna be a downtime soon.
Use your Life surge on your 4th combo attack in case it's up during the Chaos Thrust combo and most of your other CDs are on.
Always use Jump when the CD comes off but use Power Surge at least around 7 to 8 seconds before. Keep in mind you can still use Dragonfire Dive if you're under Power Surge Jump is still on CD.
There are other things I probably forgot but you have to keep in mind certain rules of thumb.
>>340195043
This.
Why can't they switch sects during combat? That's just dumb. Nocturnal Sect has its uses, but not as a dedicated stance. If you can stance dance between Diurnal then it would be a nice change for AST.
>>340192797
>free EXP for killing a fucking rat a few times
>implying I don't do these on a daily basis
If this is true, I'm just being rewarded for something I'm already doing as a part of my carrot-on-a-stick daily content rotation.
>>340192638
So what is this? A reboot, remake, continuing the XI game from where it left off on a different system?
>>340194085
why butcher a perfectly good opener like that
>>340194168
But XI wasn't even good. It was literally JP-mode EQ
>>340195412
Lalafels
>>340195412
its supposed to look edgy and cool, like a moveset showcase.
>>340195405
Mobile port. FFXI remade on Unreal Engine 4 from the ground up, with content up to CoP and with FATEs and other modern shit added, with mobile crap on top.
>>340195162
I'm mostly talking about skills on the GCD where damage boost = heavy thrust + chaos thrust combo and burst = phleb + full thrust combo
>>340195405
It's a (probably f2p) mobile reboot that will start off around CoP. It won't be the same game because they want it to be viable on a mobile platform, which CoP-era FFXI wasn't.
Also it'll be run by Nexon.
>>340189329
The week before HW
>>340184512
So is there like a way to play it outside Steam or something or is it just barren?
>maintenance is over at 3am
>login
>see this
>>340195781
are you retarded?
>>340195786
>negative queue
>>340195781
Game has it's own launcher
also i think servers are down right now
>>340195786
Considering that's just a shit bug that only shows how many players are created on that server, and queues and server limits are entirely artificial since a paid transfer bypasses "closed" servers, you can just click cancel and it'll log you right in.
>>340195781
the game isn't exclusive to steam, it's astandalone retail PC title and is on Playstation consoles.
>Red scripts are worthless now
>>340194398
i've never even looked at a rotation for my class and i'm top dps about 95% of the time when doing ex primals. i've never touched savage though because fuck statics
>>340194085
lol drg
lol asuran gear
lol lalafell
>>340195965
>you can just click cancel and it'll log you right in.
doesn't work anymore since 3.2
>>340196079
what did they do to them?
I hated when they made Bard a caster in 3.0.
Fuck you yoshiP I want my shit dps back and I want to be able to run around like a retard in fights!
>>340196079
there's new scrips? thought the reds would be used for new stuff
>>340196079
People's prayers have finally been answered
but at what cost
>>340196145
DRG is objectively the best DPS though.
>>340196079
>people stockpiled stacks of red scrip tokens only for them to be useless
Glad I'll be able to buy all the i180 tools with blues now. I stopped bothering with crafting at 1* stats and all the stuff I want to make is 2* now.
>>340196187
keep WM off and claim it's because the fight is movement heavy
>>340195781
>546 people playing on Steam right before servers close for 24h maint
lol barren game
>>340196252
Less damage than MNK and less utility than NIN. As soon as a new class with a piercing debuff gets added they'll go the way of the PLD.
>>340196079
Don't you need them to get the new even betterer crafter gear?
>>340196252
Only DRGs say that.
MNK and BLM are.
>>340196187
>I want to be able to run around like a retard in fights
stop playing bard and switch to machinist because that's exactly how you play the job correctly.
So why is are SMN and SCH tied to a single base class, rather than having two unique, more focused classes?
>SMN only has 3 pets
>you'll only ever use two in group content
>there's no real discernible difference between these two in most raid content but you'll get shit on if you use one over the other
>pet management is largely ignored outside of recasting Rouse every 60 seconds and two large cooldowns
>SCH only has one form of damage mitigation that's readily available
>the other two are on a 90sec and 180sec cooldown
>a fourth can be cross classed but is only practical pre-pull
>SCH pet management is the exact same as SMN except your two pets are literally the same outside of one big cooldown
>>340187914
>implying NIN will ever have to sit through the entire animation
So how long till the patch drops?
>>340196359
Here's what's actually going to happen
>SAM will be either a tank or DPS with a slashing debuff
>RDM will have piercing weapons, increasing usefulness of DRGand will play like a generic dps because we can't disturb the trinity
screencap this
>>340196387
people keep saying MNK is the best DPS but I always see them doing garbage damage.
>>340196145
The fucking fedora is the shit cherry on top
>>340196371
You can craft/buy them as well
kind of like how nobody actually spent red scripts on the actual tools but mats needed to make the gear
>>340196408
huh might have to give it a shot then
>>340196359
>>340196387
MNK is shit, barely higher DPS than DRG and doesn't have Disembowel/Battle Litany.
>>340196549
SAM will be tank
BLU will be DPS
RDM will behealer
Please look forward to it.
>>340196545
around 11 or 12 hours.
when do the servers go back up?
I think I left my plants to die at my house
>>340196867
14 hours
>>340196821
My guess is BLU will be a tank and RDM will be DPS. They're already color coded.
>>340196821
They said they won't add 3 new classes again.
>>340196174
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/197e9c8b2f04efdecffe26bebe43b40551d1e3e8
Skip down to red scripts
>>340195612
>>340195662
Will this version be on pc?
>>340196805
>a RDM would have more DPS with a DRG for their melee partner.
That's what I mean. DRGs would become more useful by having another class they provide a damage buff to that isn't BRD (and MCH?)
>>340184512
Final Fantasy has a rather loyal fanbase and the game is "pretty." I can't vouch for it being fun since I've only played it for a little bit, but I'm sure they like it.
>>340196723
You're a fucking moron holy shit.
>>340196821
>Another sword tank
It's a less shitty version of WoW
Not that it's saying much anyways. It managed to hold my attention for a few months but now I'm done with it.
>>340196462
YoshiP is retarded and cannot into game balance or creativity.
>>340185421
>Too many classes was XI's downfall
What? I always thought that was one of its strengths.
Reminder that the patch finally adds upgraded particle effect versions of Ramuh and Bismarck's weapons, but not Ravana's for whatever reason
>>340196997
It's possible since it uses UE4, they might eventually phase out the old XI for it and make it a classic server like Runescape.
>>340196821
Nah man, BLU will be a tank because the tank symbol is "blue".
RDM will be a DPS because the damage dealer icon is "red".
SAM will get scrapped for another time so they can introduce Dancer which is a healer that combines dance moves like mudras to create powerfull heals and buffs.
>>340196997
Via bluestacks, sure
>>340195234
Yeah I know about dragonfire not working with power surge.
Though am I the only one who sometimes saves spineshatter dive just in case there is an 'oh fuck' moment? It doesn't happen that often but I've had so many people fuck up the simple stuff in df that I habitually sometimes leave it off cooldown when I know things might get hairy.
>>340195662
Ah that makes sense.
>>340196087
I had to go look up the names just now because I'm so used to referencing the skills by finger placement on my keyboard I forgot what they were called. Thankfully I seem to have the rotation correct.
>>340197218
kek
>>340196821
Not that I mind tanking but when will I be allowed to swordfag without tanking for god' sake.
any tips for someone who just got all lvl 51 Crafts/gatherers
>>340196821
BLU will be all 3 roles, and will have to queue up specifically as tank, healer, or DPS based on what monster skills they have set.
>>340197218
>this happens
>but it's a gladiator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4jH0WeV67I
>SAM will never be a tank that makes use of the (soon to be) revamped parry system
>RDM will have no utility or place in raid statics
>>340197215
>>340196936
>Yoshida picking their roles solely based on their color coding
Fuck, you're right.
>>340187217
put some clothes on you slut
>Gilgamesh theme added to Orchestrion
>24 hour maintenance
>>340197336
Never. You can thank the combination of the armory system being awful and ACN branching into both SCH and SMN being a failure for that
Reminder that if you don't have Fenrir now you are irredeemably lazy and should just uninstall.
>>340197541
You literally do not need any other mount in the game once you have the bomb chair.
>>340184512
I wish it wouldn't have a subscription system, I did that with WoW and I'm not doing it anymore. Game looks rad.
>>340197454
>Good King Moggle Mog XII theme added to Orchestrion
>>340197541
I just need the meme turtle then I'm done with Gold Saucer.
Already have the emotes, hairs and slut fishnets.
>>340184512
Man I unsubbed after the American dollar went too high for my fucking country, my friends did as well, may return some day, but I hope they lower the price a bit or some shite, I work now, so I have very little time to play and paying for a game I will barely touch since I'm busy is kind of off puting.
Should have a lifetime sub at least.
>>340197541
What are you doing to earn so much MGP?
>>340197515
Wow anon it's like you have no faith in YoshiP or any of the amazing design decisions that go into this perfect game for some reason.
>>340184512
Are they going to ditch PS3 version?
>>340197515
Ugly ass cat holy shit
>>340197582
You are a casual that has not accomplished anything in the game then. Why even subscribe and waste money?
>>340197374
get to 60 with all crafts/gatherers
>>340196462
Don't forget all your debuffs are DoTs with some forgettable accessory debuffs added onto them, like Heavy or mitigated healing.
They could have potentially made three unique jobs but instead rolled it all into one and gutted them because YoshiP thinks the player base is too stupid to figure out how support classes work.
>>340197691
Mostly just camping GATEs and filling up the challenge log.
And lots of chocobo races. I probably spent almost as much as I won from races back on feed but the challenge races every 20 ranks give a ton of MGP.
>>340197691
The current event increased earned MGP by 50% and they buffed the MGP payout a while ago.
>>340197541
Grats, you mooched the event to get fenrir this weekend
Whereas I've had it for 2 1/2 months
>>340197541
>riding anything but your GC chocobo
>>340197541
>He doesn't use his custom Chocobro
Fuck right off
>>340197806
>Not falling for the MGP jew makes me a casual
wew lad
>>340197716
in patch 4.0
>>340197215
>yfw neither rdm or blu are added but instead rune fencer who is now a tank, and sam becomes king burst dps
>>340197917
>>340197920
>Not riding the chocobo Hauchefaunt got for you
Why not piss on his grave while you're at it.
>>340197541
>had it since 2.51 back when MGP didn't rain from the sky
who are you calling lazy, lazy.
>>340197691
MGP payout got buffed last patch, with Chocobo racing seeing the largest inflation. IIRC, the challenge races alone net you 500k(?).
Plus there's an event that boosts MGP payout by 50%.
>>340197828
>>340198070
I would get into choco racing but the entire feeding and how to get abilities and increase stats confuse me.
>>340197842
Well shiiii wish I had known this before I resubbed a day ago.
>>340197691
showing up
>>340197541
I settled with my stupid fucking top turtle because it makes me laugh
Fenrir looks like shit
It started out great with 2.0, all the following patches actually had interesting thing they added and there was a lot of new things going on.
But with expansion 3.0 all that stopped, the expansion was a good leveling experience but after that it was all shit.
And the dev team took a vacation after that which delayed the following patch a lot and the patches in 3.X does not add anything new at all but a new dungeon/fate. They need to add something more than a new dungeon which you overgear within 1 week to keep people interested.
>>340197716
Regarding future of PS3 version:
>Do you plan to continue to support the PS3 version even after Heavensward is released?
Yoshi: At this moment, we've already begun work on the new expansion pack, and I can tell you that at the very least the PS3 version will be supported up to that point.
>Does that mean there's a possibility that PS3 users will no longer be able to continue playing beyond that expansion?
Yoshi: It may be a possibility in the future.
>How far off in the future are we talking about here?
Yoshi: That will depend on how long people continue to play on the PS3. I've mentioned in the presentation this morning that I want to make sure that "FFXIV continues to innovate", and there's certainly the possibility that whatever innovation we seek will come with certain technical requirements. For example, which I mentioned earlier, it would not be possible to realize certain things like physic-based gameplay without meeting the hardware prerequisites. So if this becomes something that players want and we start to see people leave for rival products, then we can't just sit around twiddling our thumbs either. After all, we too need to ensure we have the necessary weapons to take on other MMORPGs in the future.
For example, if we were to have a large-scale FATE where players can ride on a flying mount and freely fly around and swoop down at a dragon that is 200 meters long, players would probably be impressed and entertained. However, it would also require us to raise the minimum requirement when it comes to hardware specs.
Our aim has always been to develop the game so that players can have the same experience no matter which hardware they play on. However, if we were to become too fixated on this and become unable to innovate, then this will cease to be a FF game. So I do not plan to say that we will support the PS3 version forever. At the same time, I'm not saying that we'll be ending support by next year or anything like that either, so don't worry.
>>340197812
You'd have to rework a ton of shit in the game to balance around supports existing, because the game is made by schmucks.
>>340197386
It won't even be like that, anon. It'll just be ARN/SMN/SCH all over again, where you change to a preset, but share a base.
They'll take the laziest way out, to ensure more tour and castle renting time.
>>340198019
That's more like the Yoshida I've come to known, since he LOVES dicking with the playerbase and throwing curveballs.
We'll get "similar" jobs with fancy Ivalice "ye olde" naming conventions, and be told to like it, even if it doesn't make sense at all, like DRK tank that uses MP instead of consuming HP.
>>340198264
>The 5 month period between 3.0 and 3.1
I can't imagine a more horrible time
>>340197541
>doesn't use its tails as a propeller
>just "runs" on a cloud of snowy particles when flying
Dropped
>>340197541
this would've been a perfectly valid comment if you'd posted the gobwalker instead
>>340192449
>The problem is Arcanist.
The problem is Scholar's fairy. If you removed the fairy, SCH would lose its DPS potential because it would have to heal more.
Obviously they would never do that, but the problem can't just be to constantly throw AST around like a football until they finally fix it. They've been doing that for the first year and it hasn't worked.
Besides that, what about the future of the healer meta? Are we really supposed to just let SCH have a dominant position for the rest of time? Are all future healers supposed to just compete for the second spot while SCH laughs at them from their pedestal?
Yoshi has hinted at needing to fix SCH recently and he's stated he's not happy with how powerful they currently are. I really, really wouldn't be surprised if we see nerfs in 4.0, because that's the reality of the situation.
The idea that "well we just have to leave X class OP forever" is so mind-boggingly stupid and poor game design. I don't want to play a game where SCH is in the meta forever with no replacement while AST, WHM, and RDM (?) all try to hump each other for the second spot.
>>340198264
>overgear within 1 week
The last dungeons felt like that from the start of patch day
>>340198019
What if they tossed out the triangle and added Support as a fourth DF option?That's a good joke.
>>340198297
>FFXIV continues to innovate
>>340189886
Funnily enough in 1.0 they had holes in the cat clothes so the tails don't clip through.
>>340198467
>Are all future healers supposed to just compete for the second spot while SCH laughs at them from their pedestal?
but of course
>>340197541
I bought the turtle, all of the dances and the chocobo barding from the Gold Saucer. I think i'm at 400k GMP currently but every time i get close to Fenrir they add some other bullshit that makes me want to spend everything.
>>340191469
>Suiton until the very end
>Random as fuck Aeolian Edge and Duality
>Literally no idea when to pop buffs
>Random points of popping oGCDs
lol, fuck off. You only need to play Ninja for two hours to discover that this guy is complete ass.
>Hraesvelgr's TT card has 6 stars
>>340198507
honestly i'm surprised that they hadn't done that already, but dps already have shitty enough queue times
>>340198448
>I can't imagine a more horrible time
I can. 2 weeks after 3.1 launch.
What a fucking awful patch.
>>340198507
Could you imagine the DF player base trying to wrap their minds around a support class?
>>340198725
let's see your rotation then until then you're the shitter
>>340198507
They don't even have to toss out the triangle, it'd just be â–²+support - they'd just have to make sure supports weren't just dead weight.
>>340198467
>mfw second string healers forever cucked into oblivion
>>340198735
My bet is that it has two A sides.
>>340198556
WoW is copying FFXIV now so they are indeed "innovating"
>>340198780
>I can. 2 weeks after 3.1 launch.
more like 2 hours
>oh shit I'm already done with all your content going to bed now
>>340197541
Only mount I need is my grape chicken.
>>340198856
Some of the Dissidia set have two A sides already and they are 5 star
>>340198935
Fuck it, just make it four A sides.
>>340198891
Except anything you think WoW has copied from XIV was actually copied from Rift and other MMOs.
>>340198507
I wish they would add support, it would at least add a little diversity. Would they nix a DPS slot for it or would they make 5 man dungeons?
>>340198928
It's not even javascript:;out yet
because of FF fanboys that think 10 bosses released 3 at a time over a year is any different than 10 bosses released each year
just because they're only letting you fight a handful at a time doesn't mean you're getting more content
>>340198990
Well shit I'm blind then.
>>340198507
Just make it so that support and DPS share the same queue slot, with 1 DPS being guaranteed a position, and a lottery between supports and DPS for the other.
How do you balance that in 8man content? No idea, because the game isn't built for anything outside of cookie cutter trinity rollouts.
>>340198625
No, fuck SCH and all fucking SCHfags.
I actually had a SCH sub in for our SCH in my static, and he would not SHUT THE FUCK UP about his DPS, how he was probably better than our SCH presently, how people should take 2 SCHs instead of a bard because bard is shit, and other ego-faffing nonsense.
SCHfags and WARfags are unbelievably annoying because their classes are OP. WARfags less so, but they get bonus points for being tank primadonnas.
>>340199041
Bosses are the only thing that counts as content?
>>340199027
That's pigeon, not a chicken.
>>340198467
I thought HW changed it where the fairy was based on ilvl for the strength of its heals?
Why doesn't SE just make it where if the SCH has Cleric on, it affects the fairy as well? Would that not gimp them down to the rest of the healers?
>>340198850
Yoshi stated sometime around HW launch that if they added pure support, it would involve remaking DF, and how that isn't really possible by this point, hence the hybrid supports we've been getting.
>>340189329
fighting HM Nael
>tfw waiting for a discount to buy FFXIV
>>340198809
>>340198507
I really wish they would. I think it would be a great step in providing the innovation this game needs going forward. Sure, most players would be extremely confused but i don't think we should underestimate the human capacity to adapt. It could take a few months but Supports would eventually be integrated into the game and everyone would get used to them.
Combine that with gear sets that actually have special effects rather than just better stats and it would be such a great step forward for this game.
>>340198843
>butt mad lalafaggot upset that his opener is shit and people called him out on it
>L-LET'S SEE YOU DO BETTER
Neck yourself
Am I the only one that hates the new collectible stuff for gatherers/crafters? It turned a comfy thing into a tedious and complicated thing to do.
>>340191798
>Its growing
Let me guess its a soon to be pay to win soon to be flavor of the month korean trash
>>340198850
>they'd just have to make sure supports weren't just dead weight.
I feel like they would need to completely restructure all the jobs, scraping whatever support it has and slapping it onto support classes instead.
For instance moving stuff like slashing/blunt/piercing debuff, trick attack, etc. and then of course give a whole new set of abilities such as haste, yadda yadda.
>>340197541
tank mounts > fenrir
also, just a reminder that this bear is going to fly before this year ends.
>>340198467
If they removed Arcanist then they could balance SCH's dps abilities from the ground up, instead of letting them just be a mini DPS.
You don't even need to touch the fairy, just kick Arcanist to the curb because it's LITERALLY FUCKING USELESS LIKE ALL THE BASE CLASSES, and rebalance SCH to suit it.
>>340198809
>BRDs that only use Heavy Shot exist
>SMN that forget they have a pet exist
>do people even play MCH?
I was told point blank by a BRD (while playing a BLM) in Anti that there's no point in songs because they lower his DPS and the run would go slower. The only song worth playing for BLM doesn't even lower their DPS. These people don't even know how to play their own jobs and are running around in raid-ready gear that's literally handed to them simply for existing.
Ask them to learn an entirely new role? Forget it.
>>340199339
Still no proof, Shitter
>>340198843
>Only argument is "show your rotation"
That's the problem, look up any rotation and you'll see that ANYTHING is better than what your shitty rotation is.
Obvious bait, fuck off.
>>340199361
I want that bear but I completely forgot how to WAR
>>340197125
>Sword =/= katanas
>>340199413
>SMN that forget they have Bane exist
>>340199283
It goes on sale practically every fucking day, it's on sale right nowbut only on PS4and so was last week and the week before. You just need to look where it's on sale and not only on the SE shop.
>>340199551
Bane?
>>340199283
Dude the game is like 10$ without the expansion, just get that until you get to level 50 or something, then get the expac.
>>340199174
Most of the other content is a snorefest chore that has 0 impact on anything.
>>340188124
I thought MMOs with subs were free of bots?
>tfw really like everything about this game but the gameplay
wish the gameplay was fun. really tried hard to like this game.
>>340199609
they aren't but of course they dont have as many as f2p mmo's
>>340199573
>>340199601
I'm on PC though, it'll probably go on sale with this 3.3 thing, isn't it?
>>340199361
I want the way it flies to be folding its legs up and then having rocket propellers emerging from its leg stumps. But that won't happen.
>>340188124
mentoring was a mistake
>>340199609
you underestimate the autism of these people
>>340198339
>ARN
>Arnacist
>>340199283
It's been on sale constantly, and should still be 50% off on Amazon, and I know PS4 version is 50% on Newegg.
They're even raising the free trial to level 35 today, if you're still on the fence.
>>340199342
That was the moment I stepped off the ride, since that ruined things.
>players always complaining about tomes and lockouts
>give players more gated content
I just can't do it, since regrinding all my DoL/DoH AND capping weekly, alongside combat, AND bullshit but realistic Anima line? Too much for my no lifer style of play.
>>340198780
>oh man I can't wait to have this token drop system so you don't have to pray to Thal for your drop to show up
>Haha just kidding the tokens are still on rolls so your odds of getting what you need in DF are still shit
>>340199115
>mfw you didn't say a word to him because SCH is so essential to everything that you can't afford to piss them off
CHAD SCHS STYLING ON BETA CLASSES EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES
Reminder that Palace of the Dead is an experiment with horizontal progression and more meaningful item effects and they will slowly add this to the main content if it works out.
>>340199461
Then show the rotation unless you're afraid you yourself are the real shitter?
>>340199714
On PC is 10$ if you search for a bit on google, a bit more if you want the base game + the expansion, make sure you get a key for your region tho (USA, EU...)
>>340199609
cd keys for this game are dirt cheap and come with 30 days free, you can bot to level 50 in less than 2 weeks. gil sellers make enough profit to keep dozens of bots up at once.
>>340199351
They could have done that in 3.0 instead of the literally nothing they actually did.
>>340199821
Reminder they said the same shit about all HW's content and it has all been shit and then quickly abandoned.
It's an even more casual WoW with a weeb coating so /v/ loses it's shit.
>>340199115
/action "Fell Cleave" <t>
/screenshot
/party "What's my parse? <se.1>
>>340199446
That's right, there's no proof he's a shitter and plenty of proof you are. Kill yourself retard
>>340199115
>Do A8N
>Have double SCH's
>Both in Clerics the entire time
>Apparently only care about DPSing and not healing
>Each SCH expects the other one to drop Clerics to heal
>They just stay in fucking Clerics
SCH's are literally cancer if they are in twos.
>>340198780
>3.1 hits
>blink
>I'm done with the story
>>340199821
I really REALLY want this to be good. It's the thing im most excited about for the patch. Too bad it's fucking 6 weeks later.
>>340200087
Even your posting rotation is shit
>>340199818
>Implying we didn't say a word to him
I was ragging on him the entire time, and he shut up once I had said enough. My raid leader actually threatened to kick him out if he didn't stop.AST can replace you.
>>340199821
>3.35
Can't wait, I hope it's not another diadem.
>>340199808
>Rerunning A5 and A6 over a dozen times each just to get my weekly token
>>340198843
Suiton, spinning, gust, dancing edge, b4b, spinning, internal, trick, fang, jugulate, mutilate, mug/dwd, spinning, gust, duality, aeolian.
>>340199821
>Reminder that Palace of the Dead is an experiment with horizontal progression
Just like Diadem
Also that dragoon is exceptionally geared for a level 34, good on him.
>>340199821
I 'm definately interested in what palace of the dead has to offer. just hope they dont fuck things up. fuck having to wait for 3.35 though
also that miqote has no neck in that picture. perspective is weird.
whats endgame like?
and as someone who enjoys pvp is that even a thing here?
>>340199821
>Another piece of HW content that never gets updated or expanded upon
4.0 WILL FIX IT RIGHT GUYS
Newegg is currently selling the PS4 version base game and expansion for $20 with promo code: EMCEKEK27
The base game for PC is currently $10 on G2A, includes 30 days of gametime too.
You're welcome.
>>340194085
>Using jump as an opener
>>340199551
It's an awesome looking spell too.
>>340199589
Cast miasma, bio 1, bio 2 on an enemy and then use bane. The effects of all three spread to all monsters in the AoE. Super useful.
Or were you gearing up for a Batman joke?
Friendly reminder that females should stick to healing classes. If a female tank or dps joins my group, they're getting kicked, blacklisted, and name passed along to chinese account hackers.
>>340199345
>growing
you said it, but still cant grasp to the idea what that means.
It's western, going to be released on the chinese markets.
Going to be released on consoles, and they are going to expand their IP on mobile market as well.
>>340200228
Just get the i220 crafted. A lot of the time, their stat distro is better than the Midan equivalent, plus you get pentamelds.
I didn't stress over bolt farming because I knew Lore and the enhanced Lore would replace it quickly.
>>340199885
>PLDs still butthurt a year later
>FFXIV will never look as good as FFXV
>FFXV will never have the charm of FFXIV
>Nidhogg EX is locked behind the new MSQ /and/ side quests
There goes paying attention to the story this patch.
>>340200565
ffxiv was made to be able to run on ps3 toasters
>>340200467
most girls play WHM or BRD anyway
>>340200131
>do A8N as SCH
>second heal is SCH
>he never goes into cleric and only heals entire time
>I never go out of cleric except when I bait Brute Justice jumps
>99% of retards don't even know how jump baiting works still running around in panic when he casts it
this fight can be healed by fairies alone with occasional physic/adlo when it's needed
>>340200243
>Also that dragoon is exceptionally geared for a level 34, good on him.
You start at Lv.1 in Deep Dungeon. Any armor you wear in is purely aesthetic
>>340200336
right when you hit 60:
do 2 dungeons over and over until you stop getting paid for doing them until you have enough money to buy gear
do 24 man ez mode raid until you get some gear from that
after doing that for a bit:
maybe do 8 man boss
do 4 boss raid
and that's every ffxiv patch ever since 2.1
>>340200352
They said it's gonna be part of a series of dungeons called the Deep Dungeons. Obviously if everyone hates it like the Diadem they will drop it.
>>340200565
>FFXIV resources are being drained for this
really
>>340200658
this
they are either a healslut or a trashy ranged dps
>>340200229
scrub
>>340200675
Oh. Does it change what abilities you have?
>>340200336
Farm roulettes and dungeons until you have the designated amount of [previous endgame currency]. Acquire gear to access [previous raid]. Use upgrade materials and gear acquired from there, as well as [current endgame currency] to access [current raid].
Repeat every even-numbered patch.
Every odd-numbered patch is a catch up patch for non-raiders where you're pretty much handed free endgame gear.
>>340200696
METAL GEAR!"?
>>340200696
>bard
Kindly delete yourself
>>340199821
I think this has a lot more potential than Diadem simply because it's a lot more grounded. Diadem sounded far too ambitious from the first time it was announced. Deep dungeon looks like something fun to do when you're bored, and while that's one of the biggest draws for me i can also see it being abandoned for that reason. MMO players have too much of a "only do it if there's gear involved " mentality that makes these things not work in the long term.
>>340200696
That's pretty funny actually.
>>340200686
>They said it's gonna be part of a series
>>340199714
http://www.amazon.com/FINAL-FANTASY-Online-Game-Code/dp/B00V5D3HOM/ref=pd_sim_367_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=518BFdxHujL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_OU01_AC_UL320_SR228%2C320_&refRID=0S3FY2YPE4521WYBD8SC
It will have a free period for prior subs, but that's about it. Every patch does that so people can check the new stuff out, catch up on gear, and also so SE can inflate investor reports and claim so many people are playing at once, due to all accounts being reactivated for free.
>>340200352
They have plans for up to 200 floors on that, with 50 at launch. It gives me more hope than Diadem and the "a full dungeon you interact with others in! Oh wait, stop gearing too fast! Have some nerfs instead~" that caused that content to go the way of Minfillia.
>>340200696
Localization team really likes their memes. Every fate name is a reference to something.
>People worried about no content
>Never talk about Frontlines
Guys, I know you think PvP in FFXIV is a meme, but the only piece of content in this game that actually changes every single match is PvP.
Frontlines is a lot of fun. Figuring out strategy and building up rivalries between the Immortal Flames, Maelstrom, and Twin Adders is fucking great.
Every single match is different, and you get great titles and mounts. Frontlines is the only thing that keeps me around and we're getting a new mode tomorrow.
I'm fucking pumped.
>>340200892
>Diadem is boring but useful
>Nerfed
>Now it's boring and useless
>No update this patch
Okay
>>340200696
Koji Fox is the master of memes
expect 3 here come dat boi achievements coming in the next patch
>>340200809
whoever does the translation for ffxiv loves to have fun with the dialogue
>>340200909
>11/200 ADS progress
kill me
>>340200834
Their pitch for this is you get to keep the gear you collected in there once you completely finish it. Whether it will be relevant or glamour shit is a mystery.
>>340200689
No, that's a bad redditor meme. XV resources were drained for this shit MMO, it has never been the other way around.
>>340200909
I wish they didn't give the Feast armor to the 10 autists with the biggest score on the entire fucking datacenter. I was pumped for it but this killed my hype.
>>340200909
Reminder they literally had to ask players to stop jumping in pvp because the game couldn't handle it
Also the fucking grind for pvp ranks was fucking abysmal last time I checked
>>340201021
o shite waddup!
>>340201107
According to Mister Happy's video on it it's going to be glamour gear only. So yeah, i don't see this surviving too long since people won't do it if there's no gear incentive.
>>340200497
>wars got over double pld setups being the absolute best during bcob pretty much right after they got buffed
>pld will still be butthurt about drk/war during gordias long into 4.0
>>340201154
It's gotten easier, and gear isn't locked behind PvP rank anymore. All you need are the wolf marks.
>>340200229
OOH
>>340200772
PROVE IT NIGGER
HE DID.
>>340199551
If i cast that will you die?
It will be extremely painflare
>>340197336
>tfw want to smash shit with an axe as an actual DPS class
Bersker when?
>>340201297
>gear isn't locked behind PvP rank anymore. All you need are the wolf marks.
Well that's nice I guess
>>340201021
>still no dat boi minion
>>340201276
huh, what gloves are those?
>>340200909
I loved PvP for the 3 times i played it. Unfortunately as a DPS player it's simply not viable to wait 3 hours every time i want to play a match.
>>340199221
>I thought HW changed it where the fairy was based on ilvl for the strength of its heals?
The healing potency nerf on Fairy didn't change much.
>Why doesn't SE just make it where if the SCH has Cleric on, it affects the fairy as well? Would that not gimp them down to the rest of the healers?
Because it wont change anything other than make SCH cry bitch tears like they always do the moment something is portrayed as negative. See months after launch of bitch tears over Lustrate not being %-based anymore or Dissipation being "useless" and somehow anti-lore.
Also outright removing the fairy wouldn't help much either, SCH base toolkit is for the most part still better than what Noct AST can bring when it comes to mitigation. It would just not bring anywhere near as much DPS utility like it does right now. It would still be broken for mitigation, just not so much as it is in A8S with Eos.
SCH was a mistake but the bigger fucking mistake was making a third healer designed to try and compete with two existing healers instead of being its own thing and now it suffers and gets constant retarded changes no one asked for because the changes being made doesn't change shit for AST when it comes to replacing SCH.
AST needs a complete rework or removal of Noct Sect so it only competes with WHM and then they can add a 4th healer that isn't a fucking retard project and is only there to bring its own spin on replacing SCH.
The SCH tears would be great but it would also be healthy for the game if they stopped being such fucking pussies with the job balancing.
>>340201265
>More glamour grind content
This whole game is just glamours and raids now.
You're either in an 8man static grinding the latest meme raid, or grinding for a pair of pink panties for your slut cat. There's no in between.
>>340201390
>no shit waddup
>>340200772
>LALAFAGGOT GETS BTFO
MY SIDES
FUCKING NECK YOURSELF YOU AUTISTIC LOSER
>>340194085
>Using jump and spineshatter dive before blood of the dragon and disembowl are up.
Like i know it looks flashy but fuck so many things are just wasted potency.
Ive played this up till lvl 40s and tried several classes.
Why should I resubb and play this over wow?
>>340201265
>glamour gear only
FUCK. This is why some horizontal progression is fucking necessary. Making it a treadmill kills incentive for the mass majority. Oh well, I'm still looking forward to it. It looks fun.
>>340189642
>How do all you other faggots feel about being second fiddle?
I don't care all that much.
The class is just too much fun to play as.
>>340201472
>>340201309
No need to samefag
Your rotation is weak my shitter chum
>>340201479
Forgot to mention heavy thrust as well
>>340201265
it's going to drop tokens too which you can trade for materia or materials just like diadem
>>340201435
Only way I see where shielding AST would work is having completely not random cards in that stance. Then maybe he could be as useful as SCH, but that might be too broken at the same time
>>340201092
>ADS is the only thing I've got left from the rank 50 grind that hasn't been given out to every pleb in the game
>>340201662
Well that's something at least.
>>340185496
when did this happen?
>>340201416
HA Healers.
>>340201782
When people or the dev himself started fucking around with the 1.0 private server software.
>>340201594
>gets BTFO hard
>s-s-samefag
You are incapable of providing or handling critique. GTFO
>>340201435
AST and SCH's designs were both mistakes, but the problem is that the way people approach fixing them is fucking autistic.
Instead of nerfing SCH and bringing AST up to par, people just want to leave SCH in its OP position forever and drive a knife into AST's back. It makes no sense.
SCH and AST were both poorly designed. One's designed led to it being overpowered; the other led to it being underpowered.
People's solutions? Kill off the underpowered one and let the overpowered one and all its bitchboy followers being smug cunts for the rest of time.
The problem is that they aren't going to kill off N. AST. They might nerf SCH, but all directions is pointing to SAM being a tank and RDM being a DPS.
With them saying they don't want to add three classes anymore, we might not even be getting a new healer next expansion so they can continue to fix what they've already made.
>>340201701
>Introducing to the cash shop, the Allagan Research Node! Brother to the combative ADS, this exclusive mount comes with a slick new color scheme bound to set you apart from the rest of your fellow travelers.
>>340201435
SCH is basically the only fun and diverse job in the game, along with WAR, so to ruin one of the few things that are good instead of making the other bland bullshit jobs that suck better, is wrong and gay.
If SE would stop being trinity cucks, they would make all the jobs, or at least the non-specialist ones, into hybrids like SCH and WAR so you can do more than 1 thing and not want to murder yourself.
Obviously PLD, WHM and I guess MNK or DRG should be pure jobs that do what they do best, but everything else should be able to play with some variety.
Just blame shit balance and horrible game design, as usual.
>>340200696
thanks god the german version isn't filled with memes
>>340201968
My rotation is still better, though. Leave
>>340201594
Only replied to you once.
My rotation is fine you potato.
>>340201091
the english localization is the original script. the nips tell them what's going on, english writes it then the other 3 languages are based on that
>>340202165
>Chakra! Du schaffst es!
>>340202043
Honestly I wouldn't even be surprised at this point
>>340201265
Happy has been incorrect in the past, meaning his word isn't the same as actual patch notes and launched content.
I recall reading that we upgrade the glowy weapons, and we can eventually take them out of the dungeon and use it in the base game, creating something more in style with FFXI gear, and less XIV style.
There hasn't been a single piece of content in this game that is sustainable with the premise based around glamour, and I'm pretty sure Yoshi and pals are aware of that by this point in time.
>>340201701
I hit 50 before getting the ADS, despite being Maelstrong and playing since the early days.
new thread where?
>>340202202
Is that a meme? I seriously don't know
>>340202032
>>340202158
He was too good for this world
>>340202006
>they don't want to add three classes anymore
What a joke.
Maybe they should have future proofed this game even a tiny bit so they don't built themselves into a corner with their holy trinity hotbar fighter game.
Literally the 1 thing that a Final Fantasy MMO is expected to have is a diverse job selection based on the Final Fantasy jobs, and they can't even get that right.
>>340200902
there's a lalafell npc named meme desu in ul'dah
>>340200696
Pop culture ruined ones ability to reference a certain type of weapon striking a person in an important joint in their leg, and what would probably be a common injury at that; truly what a time to be alive.
>>340202527
There are like 3 lalas named memesomething in uldah.
>>340202190
You're delusional you radish
>>340202158
rip beautiful prince
How soon until we can download the patch?
>1.0 Orchestrion music is Mogstation only
>>340202006
>DRG hits battle litany
>Tank has convo up
>Pop a max mind pot and hit that dissipate + DT
>20k shields for everyone
lmao what was yoshi thinking
>>340202692
when the servers go back up, so about 13 hours from now.
>>340202692
Probably like 3 am. Get some other vidya primed because this shits going on all day
>>340202779
hello darkness my old friend
>>340202270
I really like Ilberd, it's a shame Raubahn refused to give him a hand, Ilberd could've been his right arm.
>>340197180
There were many classes that were totally useless or completely outclassed by another one in the same role. The game was not balanced well.
>>340202817
Yeah, I knew it was 24 hours. I'm playing some D44M in the meantime.
>>340202270
>went from scheming and charismatic leader to eternally asshurt retard with no real gameplan outside of killing anyone and everyone
I don't get how SE fucked up this hard. They had a good thing with the 2.X story and then they just completely sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn't happen, halfway through HW. What gives? All of this could have easily been 3.X content instead of more dragons.
>>340202731
>YoshiP
>Thinking
>>340201091
i wonder what kojima would think if he read this...
>>340202879
At least the dragon war is finally over after this patch. Then we can get back into the overarching Ascian plot that is actually interesting.
>>340202879
It was all Teleji's planning, he was just a thug playing his part.
>>340202879
They put the C team in charge of the game so nobody would care if it sucked, and it manged to be good, but then the C team did C team things and ruined it because they're ultimately incompetent.
>>340202178
You are adorable when wrong. You should accept it, but it's no surprise a potato can't.
