Can Blizzard nerf this anti-fun, blatantly OP character already?
She's cute though
>>339758231
She's not op.
Pretty easy to kill depending on the hero.
Mccree destroys her. You just need to stop playing or engaging her as genji.
>Anti-fun
True.
>blatantly OP
Only if you're a retard.
>She's cute though
Correct.
>>339758405
>>339758489
It worked to get mccree nerfed, lets get her nerfed too /v/-army.
>>339758405
>Fight Mei
>Frozen
>Get shot with two ice bolts or sprayed down with ice
>ded
Yeah, real balanced
>>339758575
McCree wasn't even OP. He's only effective if you're a foot away from the fucker.
Mei, however, can literally stop an entire team from pushing with a non-ult ability and never lose 1v1's.
>>339758575
McCree needs the Nerf hammer.
Mei is shit in high-skill play.
>>339758594
>Fighting Mei at close range
Zone her out and it's like playing v. a Widow with worse damage and faster fire rate, at which point hit her a few times and she's dead.
Or be sure to keep allies nearby and SAY SOMETHING if you are fighting her.
>>339758231
She's pretty useless the moment another team mate shows up. She will wreck you 1v1, but that's what happens when you're running around trying to solo fuckers.
>>339758702
>he's only effective if you're a foot away
>Ignoring those pinpoint accurate 75 damage headshots at any range
>>339758702
Is this bait? .
>>339758405
>tfw I suck with McCree
Can't get fan the hammer to fucking hit consistently.
>>339758825
>what is cover
>what is shooting back
Mei isn't OP, but she is most certainly unfun cancer for all parties involved.
>play highnoonman
>turns noon
>other idiot team is barely running away
>faggot mei throws up an ice wall in front of me
This has happened multiple times with other characters too. I can't fucking stand her on my or the other team.
>>339758575
Mei= not picked in competitive at all
McCree+ 110% pick rate (yes more than 100 because he is even picked two times for one team)
McCree is op. Mei is shit
>>339758845
Get right up in a nigga's face. It has shit range. Even if they damage you, they won't be able to finish you off unless you have the worst aim ever.
>>339758885
>Cover
Same is said of every character in the game including Mei, no skill goes THROUGH objects.
>Shooting back
Same could be said of Mei.
>>339758959
Exactly. She isn't fun to play against at all. It's like fighting a bee
>>339758974
I am right in their face. I somehow manage to lead the shots around them.
Granted, I don't really go after fat targets, but more ofter the smaller targets like Tracer and Genji.
The only way you have a chance of killing her is if you see her first and stun her/ damage her a bunch before she turns around. If you both enter a room at the same time, unless you're Mccree with Fan the Hammer or Roadhog and get a decent hook+blast, she will get her feeze gun on you and actually slow down your mouse movements as she walks to your side where you're unable to aim, then instantly headshot you to kill you.
There should not be a class in this game that can go toe to toe with literally every other class, block off Payloads for five to six seconds, freeze herself in an INVULNERABLE FUCKING ICE BLOCK that HEALS HER, and STILL have one of the best Ults/primary weapons in the game. It is straight bullshit.
>>339758885
Woah there!
>>339758885
don't forget
>what is damage fall off.
75 damage at long range is a complete lie
The worst part is when you get frozen and you see the other faggot stare at you and slowly line up his headshot like a piece of shit. It's fucking INFURIATING.
>>339758231
blizzard nerfs are like a slippery slope towards hell
you don't want blizzard to nerf anything, trust me as a long time player of wow
>>339759152
Well as a hots player I can tell you with the way they have been handling nerfs, McCree will stay meta for a long time like he wasn't already
>killed by mccree
>respawn, run back to defend payload
>mccree jumps over a wall and uses his skill based combo to kill me immediately
Classic
>>339758967
source?
oh wait you don't have one
>>339758967
>in competitive
This mode does not exist yet.
>>339759105
>damage falloff
McCree doesn't have damage fall off, in fact, I believe Reaper is the only one who does in-fact have damage falloff.
>>339759079
This
>>339758594
>getting up close to a close range character
>Antifun
That's a weird name for Hanzo or Widowmaker.
Two body shots for the kill was fucking retarded
>>339759261
>pretending to be retarded
http://www.planetoverwatch.org/12-overwatch-tier-list-and-hero-meta-report-the-payload-report
>>339759264
There are still online tournaments and LAN
>>339759307
>Gets recommended a closes range character
>Act like he's an idiot if he goes close range with his close range character
???
>>339759051
>What is Hanzo's ultimate
>What is Widow's ultimate
>What is Mercy's ultimate
>What is mercy's heal/damage boost (for a few seconds)
>What is Lucio's ultimate
>Can we nerf this blatantly OP F tier character with a 3.16% pick rate
/v/ will never stop being shitter central.
>>339759350
>playing in shitty LANs when ranked comes out later this month
???
>>339759350
>online tournaments
>LAN
>competitive
If you say so, anon. Sounds like pub games with inflated egos.
>another class coined for its conditional usage instead of its integral utilitarian purpose
>>339759441
>Hanzo
Okay, 1 Damage Skill goes through walls, I forgot about it since nobody picks wolfman in my games anymore.
Widow's Ult doesn't go through walls.
Mercy's ult is true, I should amend to 'damage skills.'
>Mercy's beam
That's a bug.
>Lucio's Ult
Same as Mercy.
>>339758959
12pm isn't that problem with John Wayne.
>>339759497
Stuns are a shit mechanic that shouldn't be in the game, much less on basic abilities.
>>339759549
The final of the last LAN netted 45 k viewers on Twitch. That's amazing for the first LAN. Anyway the point is Mei is actually a shit character and McCree is the one that needs a nerf (confirmed by blizzard anyway)
>>339759596
>Lucio's ult going through walls is a bug
>>339759629
Did you quote the right person? I was telling a story about how a meifaggot fucked me over, I never said it was why McCree is OP.
>>339759745
>Same as Mercy
The one above it, retard.
"I should amend to 'damage skills.'"
>>339759681
The only nerf McCree may need is a small reduction in health. Otherwise he's not that great.
>>339759680
>Stuns are bad
Why?
>>339758702
Blizzard confirmed Mcree is broken.
His DPS is miles above every other hero. Fan the hammer, roll, fan the hammer is just too op.
>>339759596
True, I'll agree there is only one damage skill, but the rest still go through walls, was the point I was getting at, even if limited in use.
>>339758231
why does everybody say that Mei is fat? She's clearly wearing a thick winter coat
>>339759348
>Hanzo or Widowmaker.
That's a funny way to spell Widowmaker and Mcree
>>339759798
>Be fucking unclear
>Call others a retard for not getting your unclear brabble
kekarooni
>>339759929
You're right, he's so not great that comp teams have 2-3 of him on their teams.
>>339759938
Not him, Overwatch is INSANELY fast combat-wise.
Even a 1 second Stun like McCree's is enough to kill anyone.
Same with a 1 second freeze.
The suppress from Roadhog's Hook is also pretty bad since you can get hit while being pulled and due to 20 tick, will usually take a meat shot for 200 right before regaining player control.
>>339760014
Because people are attracted to women that don't look like twigs
Mainly people like me
>>339759929
> Otherwise he's not that great
Literally the most picked hero in high level play and his health is normal for an offense character so that is not the problem. You're very retarded.
Just nerf widowmaker, her fire rate is way too good. She should not be able to shoot until it's at 100%
>>339759105
are you retarded?
Mcree has no fall off. You can repeatedly headshot people in the other side of the room.
It's the reason he counters Pharah so much. She goes in the air and he kills her in 2-3 shots from far away.
>>339760098
>and due to 20 tick, will usually take a meat shot for 200 right before regaining player control
this isn't because of tick, he's designed like that you moron
>>339758405
I play a lot of Mei, McCree is actually easy to beat as Mei. A lot of McCrees have an impulse to throw a flashbang as soon as they see you, before they process that it's Mei they're dealing with. So, you can just ice block immediately to remove his best defense. At that point you just have to dodge the double fan the hammer and its a free kill
Even seasoned McCrees, who know I will try this, will still throw the flashbang on instinct. Feels gr8 m8
That said, I do agree that McCree shuts her down pretty bad. A few other heroes do as well.
>>339760035
You don't love playing against spamzo and his un-ceasing instakill arrows or his constant "YOU NEED A WALKIE TALKIE TO WALKAROUNDUUUUUU"?
BECAUSE I SURE DO
I LOVE IT
IT'S SOOOO MUCH FUCKING FUN ANON
SO MUCH
>>339760152
That would make her useless. Widowmaker is balanced, you're just shitty at moving unpredictably.
>>339759105
>>339759267
>>339760201
I heard he had fall-off several times but I 2-shot a Widowmaker from across the room
>>339760152
nah just increrase the kick of her sniper a bit and she will be fine. The game lets you know if you are being sniped at with loud as fuck sound ques there is no reason to stand still after you get dinged by a 20% shot.
>>339759441
Add Reinhardt to the list.
>>339758594
you forgot the 4 second she needs in order to freeze you
get accuracy and it's enough time to force her to ice herself
>>339760060
You keep saying shit about comp teams and some comp scene and yet it seems to be made up of people who spend time bitching on the Internet about the game instead of playing the game and gittin' gud.
>>339760261
>he's designed to have a hook with a hitbox wider than a Reinhardt Shield and to be able to instakill anyone at 250 or less solely by landing it
>I've landed hooks, spammed left click and they still dodge out of the way, meaning your suppression ends at the same time as them
Moron.
>>339758231
Honestly, the time in which you cannot aim while getting frozen needs to get reduced.
I straight up cannot aim within .5 seconds when she starts spraying me. If she isn't in front of me already I'm dead.
At least give us a second of aiming before we cannot aim anymore.
>>339760349
>what is not going into chokes knowing the enemy team has a hanzo
>what is zarya
>what is tracer
>>339760418
Bu tit's not. Come on man this McCree is not op meme is getting old. Everyone knows how broken he is. Blizzard knows it. Pro players know it. Even Reddit knows it and hates McCree
>>339760127
Am I? Sounds like you're shit at the game.
>high level play implies competitive play
You gotta be shitting me right? You get almost as many points losing as you get for winning.
>>339760515
>>339760515
>Try not to defend things and you wont have a problem against Spamzo anon :^)
>>339760261
No, the tick is like that BECAUSE of combos like that. If you weren't always .3 seconds behind everything then the game would be a lot different for heroes like Roadhog.
They said it themselves, the shit netcode is intended.
>>339759798
work on your clarity bro, will serve you well
>>339758231
>Literally the least played character in competitive
>OP
?
>>339760350
>still has easy headshots
>useless
It's not like 100% charge takes a long time, it just sucks that a sniper isn't punished for missing and hitting the body instead, and then immediately going for another uncharged body shot and still getting the kill
>>339760361
Either recoil or lower fire rate, anything to punish a misfire
>>339760464
i think you just suck ass i get hooked and push roadhog back with Lucio or freeze myself with Mei all the time.
>>339760576
You're very condescending. Why do you think you know better than players much better than you?
es, you are retarded for suggesting that nerf or just a lame troll.
>>339760574
>pro players
Game is out for two weeks and now there's this vibrant all knowing comp scene. Holy fuck thanks for the laugh.
>>339760014
no winter coat is THAT thick, especially not pertaining to shape. human brain is smart yo, figures that shit out for you.
>>339760713
Yeah, Roadhog isn't as great as people think he is. His shotgun doesn't even one shot people with more than 200 health and there are tons of ways to counter his hook or use it to your advantage
>>339760790
Pro players have been involved in balance patches since the first closed beta.
>>339760790
Hey newfag. There was tournaments from the closed beta to the open beta and teams are mostly the same.
>>339760464
shit player right here guize
>>339760713
I agree, I suck ass.
But if I can mash my buttons so that they trigger right as I come free and they still miss, there's a problem. Especially when I can't do the same on the other end.
>Pharah
>Spam Shift to fly up
>Eat the shot every time, even though it instantly jumps you up like 6 character heights, doesn't trigger
>Tracer same deal with right click
>Genji shift
>Junkrat Right Click cause he's standing ON TOP OF MY MINE
Etc. I've never escaped eating a shot if I get hooked even though I am quite literally hitting the button 15 times per second.
>>339759079
Not to mention that she's just more unfun to fight than even McCree, because at least he stuns you for half a second and you're dead and that's it.
With Mei you get slowed down, flop around helpless for a few years, then get completely frozen and watch as her fat ass lines up a headshot on you or just continues sapping your health away with her freeze gun to be a cunt.
>>339760352
at max range (ie; most possible falloff) mccree's shots do 30 (or maybe 35?) damage, so you shouldn't be able to two-shot a widow, even with headshots.
of course, it takes a while for falloff to get that bad, but it's definitely there
Question: How do I correctly give out shields as Zarya?
>inb4 the tank dipshit
They never attack with it on them
>>339758231
I main Mei all the time and she has hard counters.
Roadhog is dangerous
Reaper is dangerous
Solder is dangerous
Pharah is near impossible to deal with
people just hate Mei because she is the only character that changed the environment to fight. And autists wanna keep moving fast.
>>339761086
>Reaper is dangerous
Is he? He requires to be close range to do anything.
I don't understand why people are so adamant to defend McCree as not being OP when everything, even Blizzard themselves, points to the opposite.
>>339760726
>pot calling kettle black
Thanks for the laugh m8. Entitled kids like you are gold mines of comedy.
>>339761159
Because they are shitty trolls.
see >>339761171
>>339761159
>Trusting Blizzard with game balance
Clearly not a WoW player
>>339761086
Your playstyle revolves around ruining mine. That's why people think you're a bunch of faggots for playing her. Everyone hates anything that takes away mobility in any game and makes them helpless. This is why paralysis, freeze etc are always the most unpopular status effects in any game.
>>339760713
i'm pretty sure some characters can press their escapes (mei freeze, for example) in the time between the stun ending and the shotgun blast connecting, and others can't
I don't remember ever hooking a mei who didn't instantly iceblock but I've never encountered a reaper or tracer who was able to mash the button fast enough to get away
>>339761235
Do you know Blizzard s nerfing McCree? Because they were there at agents rising where there was two McCrees in every single team. Again stop with this retarded meme.
>>339761159
This is the same Blizzard that changed a victory pose for Tracer because of a small vocal minority, right?
>>339761434
>This is the same Blizzard that changed a victory pose for Tracer because of a small vocal minority, right?
No, it's the same Blizzard who changed a victory pose for Tracer because they thought of a better one, then tried to claim Social Justice points for something that they were goign to do anyway.
>>339761434
changed it to something not better?
>>339761434
That was blown way out of proportion by neckbeards. The suggestion wasn't even violent. They just oh it does not fit the character and blizzard changed it to less goofy but still sexualized.
>>339758489
>Cute
Ruined it
>>339761434
The new pose shows more ass. They don't care about SJWs.
>>339761146
so does Meis primary attack.
>Soldier 76 was literally made from a comic Metzen made in 98
>>339761707
Cool
Thanks random fact dropping anon.
>>339761707
>I have you in my sides!
>>339761146
He can kill her in two shots.
>>339761359
>being this fucking dense
From Geoff Goodman, Lead Designer
>"I've been watching McCree carefully since we've released. McCree's Flashbang plays an important role in being a strong option against very fast/agile teams (Tracers/Genjis/etc). It is also a nice tool to prevent close range devastating abilities and ultimates such as Reaper's Death Blossom.
>"That said, it's probably a bit too good at dealing damage to higher health targets such as tanks and barriers. I don't have any concrete changes yet, but I'm going to be testing some things internally to see how he plays."
>>339758575
>>339758746
>>339758967
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatchs-mccree-and-dva-could-be-changed-heres-h/1100-6440368/
>>339759441
Zarya ult pulls through walls as well.
>>339761495
This.
>>339762274
Yes, he said that right after agentsrising while being present in person. His opinion is based on competitive play. Do you lack reading comprehension?
>>339760806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6KRKHpKhY
>>339762854
>A sitcom of nothing but Jews
>>339759267
Tracer also has falloff at range, pretty significant falloff too.
>Be Symmetra on Dorado defense
>Even after losing A, still play Symmetra
>In general be a completely useless piece of shit
>End up with the only player card on our team
>"This clown actually did something?"
>>339759267
Yes he does. He does jack shit outside of mid range. It takes 3 or 4 headshots to kill most characters there.
>>339762854
Don't forget the shape though, obviously the pants are designed to look tight so at the very least her thighs are huge
>>339761086
fuck pharah when playing as mei, as soon as i think i got her she blasts away and fucks me.
>>339759572
I have to agree with this, if your just playing in a bubble there's nothing really competitive about it. Just an echo chamber of bad kids
>Go to the midlane and push
>Get sniped instantly
>Go to the flanks to avoid sniper
>get stunned and RMB'd by mcree
>''Sniper is down push mid''
>Bastion around the corner lmbing everyone down
Game sure is fun
>>339764509
>Start putting team together
>Most roles filled fairly well
>Could use a Speed Weed or Mercy and a Tank to perfect it
>Hanzo
>Genji or another Hanzo
>On Defense
>It's a "16.66% of the team chooses Hanzo or Bastion on attack" episode
Why do people do this?
>>339760396
After a second and a half you're already too slow to aim correctly.
>>339758231
She only works against disorganized enemies. Meaning that regardless of your team's assistance, she never becomes better, only worse against smarter opponents.
Any two stack will beat her eventually. Anything 3+ will steamroll her.
In her place you could instead bring a Winston, who for double the health, also has multiple targets for his autoaim cone which does more damage and builds towards a point denying ult on a very mobile character whose wall has a wide variety of one way uses instead of just being a cancel all team fucker.
>find game
>two randoms instapick Widow and Hanzo respectively
>on offense
>Hanzo does nothing but spam arrows down hallways and occasionally ulting for zero effect
>Widow never uses her ult ever
>predictably, get our asses kicked
>end up with gold medal in damage
>as D.Va
>>339758231
I don't care who is OP or not, I just want a game where my dipshit teammates stay on the payload instead of trying to get POTG.
It's high noon
>>339758405
Was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krbhq4uO0oE or this comic made first?
>>339758231
Hey guys post account #s and let us play together
>>339765025
I think it's literally a case of furries for Hanzo. Or contrarians who think that playing as the less edgy but SRS brooding "pained" older brother is more euphoric than playing Genji.
Notice how 99% of Hanzos have the wolf skin equipped?
>>339761067
Always use them reactively to save someone, see your two shields as your get out of jail cards. Unless you have a full team to hide behind try not to do just use your own shield to charge yourself up deliberately by walking ot turret/bastion fire or whatever. Your shields are for cucking the enemy
And yeah, they are great for tanks. Zarya works in tandem with other characters and is mostly shit by herself.
>>339763875
One of the best things about maining Pharah is Mei never being a problem and getting to pick that fat cunt off with ease.
>>339765820
Thats because the Wolf one is basically cheating, he whispers the first second so you can use it to surprise people if you launch your arrow behind close cover, they have no time to react
>>339765521
>lose 8 games in a row because I'm the only one on the point/payload
Don't worry, our shitty Reinhardt got POTG for swinging his hammer. Definitely better than winning. Did offensive Reinhardt replace Genji as the character of choice for shitters?
i fucking hope they delete this unfun piece of shit. her left click can basically hit you across most open spaces that arent the main area so if a mei catches you, youre probably fucked if you movement ability is on cooldown. she requires barely any aim so its not like getting shit on by a decent widow, she just aim in your general direction fro roughly 2 seconds then headshots your ass. hes also fucking annoying as shit to kill with the ability to make herself invincible while also healing herself. Shes not op or anything, its just super frustrating to play against some fucking retard who just runs in circles then kills you.
>>339766196
>Play as Junkrat
>Throw concussion mine at her coming out of ice form
>Flies into air
>Followup with single direct grenade
>Dead mei
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly I think Tracer is more anti-fun than anybody but that's just me
>>339758231
The worst thing about her is her fucking ice block she hides in, it shouldn't be able to block capping, it completely breaks point Bs on the Attack/Defense maps
>>339766365
Tracer is great fun to fight, chasing her about, and takes some skill to actually finish off. You probably just main a class she counters.
>>339758959
that is easily the least cancerous part about Mei, you flashbang spamming fuck
>>339766410
It's dumb how she's completely invulnerable in it too. If you do that shit out in the open your team should be able to focus damage and kill the cunt even in the ice. Yeah you can just wait until she gets out but still, it's dumb.
>>339766410
Fucking this. It's annoying enough in standard modes, but Arcade was filled with Meis who did nothing except freeze themselves while shooting
What a fun game
Everybody post your account numbers so we can play it together
>>339765820
It's kinda the only skin I have for him..
>defending point
>plop trap and mine in front of enemy exit
>Game starts
>TRIGGERED
>BEEOW BEEOW
>1 second in I have a kill (granted it's a weaker character)
Such a great way to start a game. Just thought I'd share, carry on.
>>339766784
The problem is it gives the defending team a free five seconds for everyone to respawn where the attacks can do literally nothing, it's insanely powerful. If it just had some sort of counter, like the ice block being movable by pushback weapons or the block being destructible just very strong
>>339760014
her leggings seem to be fairly skintight, and she has quite thicc legs
>>339758231
>Mei ice walls
>climb up as Genji
>harass and force her to ice block
>wall breaks and team rape her when she unblocks
Real OP, opfaggot.
>>339766784
But that's the whole point. Her kit is about going in, Not TOO in but just enough to freeze and maybe take out a few people. I should know. I main mei and roadhog. I play mei to mostly help my team with the front and side lines. She should never be in the open popping her Ice Block. Its meant to be a quick save in case to much damage is done and this is why you need to be with your team because they can back you up if you do Pop. This isn't the case most the time and is pretty hard to survive with her. I love mei as a character but her kit doesn't do well in high skill play when its all about Really good aim and range play.
>>339761086
I dont think any character is OP. It's literally a matter of getting good. This isn't league of casuals where you're forced to play one character all game. I can LITERALLY beat most McCrees as Zenyatta. Discord orb into 1 - 2 headshots easily kills the fucker before he can get close.
>>339767306
Just the tip to see how it feels type of IN
>>339758231
Play shitty game get shitty results
>Mei players get McCree nerfed
>/v/ rejoices
>Play Roadhog
>Mei Freezes
>Walk around her so that she can't start freezing me when she unfreezes
>Time my shot to instant kill her when she unfreezes
Incredibly satisfying feeling
>Play Junkrat
>Mei Freezes
>Place concussion bomb at her feet and walk away
>Instantly kill her when she unfreezes
Don't forget to laugh heartily
Really. My biggest tip with dealing with frozen Mei, walk behind her when she's Frozen. If the first thing she has to do when she unfreezes is to turn 180 degrees, you will always have the upper hand.
9/10 Mei's are too dumb to cancel their freeze early anyway
>People complain about Mei
>Mcree is literally the same character but better
>>339767545
>play Reinhardt
>time the charge just right
>hit Mei just as she pops out of freeze
>make Meicakes with wall
>>339766410
It doesn't block capping you fucking retard. I just tried it today. Don't spew bullshit.
>>339767441
Perfect example.
lost my sides when i read that.
>>339767545
You can turn in the ice block and be instantly facing that direction when you unfreeze.
I know because I watch for faggots like you, and immediately wall.
Saved myself from a Junkrat tire the same way.
>>339767795
Lol i no rite
Post # lets play together
>>339767941
IGN masta
Let's duo :^)
>>339758231
>Complaining about a character that is, for the most part, a worse McCree
>>339767904
Ahh its good to hear from another mei player who knows exactly what to do against faggots like that. The quick wall is a skill most mei's need to get down. I've seen to many low skilled ones die early on from that.
>people actually
>literally
>unironically
>in the current year
>whine about Mei
>>339767306
>having mains in overwatch
>main Mei, the cancer of all characters
Kill yourself
>>339760362
reinhardt ult does not go through walls. Infact if you're slightly in range but mostly behind a wall/corner you won't get knocked down from it.
THAT
If Mei players would just give me a heads up when they are throwing up the wall, they might not be annoying teammates. As Winston you hop into the back lines and then back to your team quick. So she is either blocking me from jumping after them, or even worst she blocks me from being able to jump back after engaging and I get stuck behind the ice wall and raped by the team.
>>339763526
>not having top kills as symmetra
>be Mei on first point in Hanamura
>door is blocked 3/4 of the time
>Pharah gets sniped every time she tries to fly over
>enemy team is visibly upset
>they never get first point
>server gets disbanded because enemy team quit
but then
>try my pro strategy with new server
>"hey guys I'm gonna show you how to make the enemy team cry"
>my team stands outside the enemy spawn and gets wiped
>I hold the door alone until they get back
>they just run through and die
>can't hold it by myself forever
>we lose
>"wow anon I'm sure they were in tears laughing at you"
why
>>339768684
Because retards treat the game like a deathmatch rather than a defend the point and try to kill the enemy while they're standing in super healing zone.
>>339763526
>Dorado
>losing A
does not compute
>>339768364
Heh, you would like that wouldn't you. :)
it's ok. everyone has characters they really like to play all the time. but at least i choose the characters that my team needs at the right times and do semi decent at them. Probably unlike you.
>>339763526
What's more useless than Symmetra are the people who see someone pick her and think "Oh, somebody picked support, now I don't have to"
Symmetra should be in defense, not support.
>>339768797
I know its super dumb
Lets play together post #
>>339768409
I don't think it goes up stairs either
pretty sure those side stairs on Hanamura A have blocked it before
>>339768052
>>339768238
People whine about Mei more than McRee because most heroes can't actually do anything against McRee.
Mei, on the other hand, has all sorts of ways to counter and avoid her. Getting killed my a Mei is usually the victim's fault for falling prey to a close range character, but 90% of the people who play competitive team-based games are capable of accepting blame. They have to blame everything and everyone else first
>>339759071
2 Bullets annoyingly end both of those characters ez.
>>339768416
She should have a "BUILD WALL" voiceline for her teammates as soon as she activates the ability so you know that she's about to place one before she actually does
>>339761261
personally it's not her freeze that pisses me off its the stupid slow line up a free headshot that you get after. Takes no skill to hold M1 and jump around like an idiot then slowly line up an ebin headshot.
>>339768947
>>339767941
pls respond
>>339770218
I like to freeze people with M1, line up the shot, and thendon't take it, and see how many of them give up and stand in place for a moment before they realize they aren't deadand then I finish the job
>>339770539
I like to freeze people and then walk to as close as possible and punch them twice. If they still live I reload and try to refreeze punch again
>>339767716
Yes it does you dumb cunt, Mei is still on the point just invulnerable
>>339760790
>Being this retarded
There were "pro" players popping up in the beta. They were tournaments through out the beta. Why are people like you so stupid, do you genuinely think competitive players sit on their hands waiting for the release to practice?
Just like SFV right? Where no one played the beta at all, then it came out and that's when the competitive scene for it began. Right?
>>339770731
In last week's Weekly Brawl mode, (where everyone has double health and 1/4 cooldown timers), I saw a Mei singlehandedly stop the attacking team from pushing a payload for at least 10 straight minutes without dying.
>>339770731
Except it doesn't. Once she freezes she can no longer "contest" the payload. And if she's physically on the point the payload will just glitch push her off.
>>339771217
I'm talking about points on attack defense not payloads, I have no idea if it still works on those but I don't see why it wouldn't be exactly the same
>>339771290
Ah. My bad friend, I read attack/defense as payload. I know it as King of the Hill, which you are probably right about. As for payload, I'm certain it doesn't as I tested it multiple times today trying to cheese the enemy team from pushing.
>>339771217
You're talking shit. Go try it out. It'll take you like 3 minutes tops. I pushed a game into overtime just a few hours ago, so unless there was a patch within the last few hours that removed it, you don't know what you're talking about
>all these idiots saying she's easy to kill
it's like you're so shitty at the game MM makes sure never to match you with good players who actually know how to abuse her broken set
> Just like SFV right? Where no one played the beta at all, then it came out and that's when the competitive scene for it began. Right?
nigs were saving tech for discord bro
The counter to Mei is to play a character with high hitpoints or armour, which is incidentially half the hero range. A freeze + icicle headshot combo to a DVa will probably leave her with 60% of her HP remaining, similar to Roadhog, Winston and Rein.But you Hanzo faggots are not willing to understand that.
>>339771489
That's interesting if that's how it works on Payload, I can assure you when actually capping a point a Mei can block it. It generally isn't an issue other than on Point Bs (Particularly Temple of Anubis), where that extra five seconds is almost guaranteed to be enough for the defending team to swarm back on the point.
>>339758231
I want Mei to crush my head with her thighs
>Mei is now the pleb mainstrean waifu
Thank fucking god. Maybe the contrarians will finally stop ppsting about her
>>339765576
Surefour is a fucking cheater dude.
>>339758405
>>339758231
Was she frozen before the Omnic Crisis, after, or during?
It'd be funny if she got thawed out of the ice only to start being racist towards robots because that was the norm of her time.
>>339771736
I want to crush Mei's head in a vice
>>339771489
They must have patched it within the last few days, then, because I saw a bunch of Meis doing what >>339771132 said this weekend. The payload never budged when she was there, even as an iceblock
>>339771620
Mei has enough HP to freeze Rein or winston before they can kill her and then pop headshots on them while they are frozen. She may not kill them but she can ice up to get healed while they can't do shit to her, then she has full HP and does it again and kills them.
>>339758231
She's based off the typical look of a chubby, unhealthy annoying Tumblr SJW. Of course her play style is going to be anti-fun.
>Join game with a friend
>Attacking Route 66
>see two people insta lock Mei
>wonder why the hell would two people go Mei, of all characters on Route 66
>then I notice their names
>and their skinsThey carried us fucking hard
>>339772291
The problem is several factors are introduced with tank heroes. Anything with 250HP and below, is a simple freeze and headshot kill, then you can retreat, ice-wall off and heal. With anything with 300-500HP, you need to get two headshots off to get close to a kill, which is often difficult to do. It's difficult to chain two freezes in quick succession. Often other enemies will intervene after the first freeze, since the process takes time. Many defence characters have escapes, heals or barriers.
It's just easier to target defence classes when they're low HP or when you have your team around you to assist with DPS, otherwise it's simply easier to seek out people who are easier to kill.
HOW TO COUNTER MEI IN 2 SIMPLE STEPS
1) Don't move around one by one you dipshits, work as a team
2) That's it, Mei is done, refer to step 1
>>339773094
> source: i'm a cunt with mei lmao
>>339772497
adorbs
>>339773312
>Don't move around one by one
dong zhu
buxu zou
>>339773531
I bet you stand and wait for Junkrat to instagib you too
>>339771524
Again Mei is not very good. There is not much reason to pick her over McCree who for the most part does what she dus more quickly, cleanly, and at much lower personal risk. Or Zarya if you want a threatening ultimate and defensive utility.
>>339772326
You have brain problems.
>>339773583
Most people don't pay enough attention to make it out in time, and so few do that she can just freeze them as well
>>339771681
I think the way it works is that those forms can't help capture, but they CAN contest.
I was fooling around with some out of map stuff as Reaper in a custom lobby on Nepal, and foudn that if I wraith form on the point I stop capping it but I think I might contest it. I'd have to try it with someone, but I haven't seen how Mei interacts, I just assume it's similar.
>>339773375
> 51,077 damage blocked
So they were just firing wildly into your walls for the entire game?
>>339758231
Can blizzard fucking nerf Zenyattas fucking Discord Orb, make it so you atleast have to fucking aim that shit.
Literally got melee'd twice by him.
>>339774349
Mei was probably cockblocking a bastion
>>339774135
Right. Capping doesn't make much difference either way because someone can just jump on to BLOCK, and the invulnerability isn't useful if there is nowhere there, what is broken is that it can block someone else capping while your team respawns
>>339761707
I want this as a costume for him.
>>339774349
> 9m objective time
Yeah, or they tried to burst me with ultimates while frozen & walled off.
>>339774378
>Melee'd by Zenyatta
Just punch the scrawny cunt he only has 150 HP
>>339758405
So who is Jonathan in this set up?
>>339758231
Sure they can nerf Mei.
As soon as they nerf roadhog, reinhardt, junkrat, widowmaker, tracer, and genji so that you dont need to use mei as much.
>>339775473
>Junkrat
>Widowmaker
>Roadhog
>countered by Mei
I wouldn't say she's OP at all, she's just incredibly unfun to play against because stuns are one of the absolute least fun mechanics to ever exist in videogames.
>>339774378
You want Zenyatta to be even worse? He's already got a huge issue with his low health (that he can't compensate a bit for like Tracer with her evasiveness and Recall), and you want to take the one ability that makes him any good?
>>339775614
>Junkrat
>countered by mei
>>339758231
>>339758405
I hope you like 1000 years in paint.net
>>339775828
>reading comprehension
>>339766729
>Playing Pharah on attack
>Manage to get above a Bastion/Reinhardt/Mercy gangbang nest
>Pop ult
>Mei on my OWN TEAM pops her icewall practically on top of them, negating my entire ult and letting the group keep assfucking the team
Yeah nah, Mei is a total pain in the ass regardless of what team she's on. Only gets worse with the "lol i trol u" ones on your own goddamn team that pop icewalls in terrible places just to fuck with their own team.
>>339758231
>Can Blizzard nerf this FUCKING CUNT
fify
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Mp5gE0HSw
>>339758231
>Fatty with glasses
>cute
k
>>339758967
And if he still gets picked do they nerf him more? Just make him unplayable? You can't actually expect an even pick rate of all heroes in competitive. Hes a strong generalist in a meta that's in its earliest days. this is the stupidest reason to nerf someone.
>>339775931
>thay feel when mccree doesn't have the shot
>go to boost him for a vantage point
>fucking ice wall targeting sticks to that ledge in front of him
Thanks blizzard, fix your damn game. You're making me to be an asshole.
Would you /v/?
>>339758405
m8 Mccree destroys anyone INSTANTLY who isn't a tank
>>339760350
Widowmaker is definitely not balanced, she has way too many strong points with zero drawbacks for being a Sniper.
Why the hell does a Sniper need as much health as classes that have to get up close to fight, has a primary weapon just about as good as an actual offense class's, and an escape mechanic on top of that?
>>339776589
Not that guy but getting a free kill because he can throw a grenade on the floor and hit m2 is kind of lame. I played a round as soldier 76 and he'd just shoot once and run away, the first time i didn't wise up and took the bait. Since then i see him doing the same shit to everyone else, he might as well be the spy class from tf2 but doesn't die as easy.
she is fun but makes me rage to play against
>>339776886
Is "That's fa true" supposed to be "That's for true"? If yes, I have never ever heard anyone say that in place of "That's for sure"
>>339777169
he destroys EVERYONE instantly, period
>>339777235
>primary weapon as good as an actual offense class
no it isnt, soldiers AR is far better
>escape mechanic
if you cant shoot a widow using the slow as fuck grappling hook, you're fucking terrible
They do need to make it so that her sniper charges slower though
>>339761067
You have to bait the enemy into firing at you/your ally then throw shields on
Zarya has half shield health for a reason, it lets her take a bit of bait damage before popping a shield on herself.
>>339776886
Source? Google gives me nothing
>>339778058Slugbox
>>339777241
>200hp
>doesn't die easily
Already destroying mccrees with reaper, I cant wait for reaper to be the undisputed king of dps.
>>339766346
i fuckin love playing refuserodent. every line he has is a goldmine.
>10 year old giggling at placing a trap
>wew is it hot in here?
>cheeky ass lines when trap triggers
>>339758231
>Can Blizzard nerf this anti-fun, blatantly OP character already?
Keep complaining and they will at some point.
>>339778893
HOOLY DOOLY
