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BINGO BANGO BONGO, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE CONGO
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Reminder.
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>>339533315
just stop*
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>>339533315
Proper reminder.
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>>339533182
The Followers are literally the best faction in the entire franchise.
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Everytime i see threads on /v/ about NV i get interested to play it again

I started to play the game and got through until i reached the place where they have the Glowing Ghoul along with some Brotherhood guys. I stopped playing the game because i just coudn't stand the FPS aspect of it, it felt really still and clunky

Is there any mod that fixes this? I only remember getting enviromental mods that made the game look awesome (And Project Nevada)

It seems like a great experience but i wish it played more like HL1 or CS1.6 (Only the FPS aspect of it), or anything more fluid than the shitty FO3 engine
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Love that song fuck now it's in my head for days
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>>339533354
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soooo, I've got type 3 body+beware of girl and Breeze's male body are there any mods that improve the look of character's faces?
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>>339533463
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>>339533449
>listening to that song while reading Tintin's adventures and talking about NV
#comfy
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>>339533504
FCO I guess
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>>339533387
mah nigga
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>>339533550
Rip
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>>339533431
Dont think there is a mod for it really. Better to just stick to vats. I use realistic weapon damage to make combat a bit faster.
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is raider pussy loose and smelly?
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>>339533504
yeah. nothing like what you get for TES games though, they're going to look like aliens no matter what you do.
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>>339533387
They would be if they weren't such huge pussies
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>>339533182
posting best radio station
nexus mod first
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55508/?
and then the music files here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufogofxgpfkmh3z/radiobabyblue.rar?dl=0
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>>339533736
Dunno, legion tribal boipussi is bretty gud
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>>339533431
Personally, I've used the instant headshot death mod (has exceptions like pistol shots when wearing helmets and some calibres or other shit) and Project Nevada tweaked to all hell and back to my personal liking of everyone being crippled in a few rifle shots on that limb to give a sort of STALKER feeling to it of intense gunfights.
If you want some added difficulty, which never hurts, I recommend you get the true wasteland economy mod for a fun easy time.
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>>339533784
But legion doesn't like homosex
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>>339533752
Because they're pacifists? They're perfectly willing to fight in self defense.
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>>339533789
>collatoral
>o
Am I missing a pun?
>>339533867
>implying
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>>339533743
She's a thick gal.
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>>339533743
that's what I figured
skyrim body mods look so good
then again it makes sense since it was built on a newer iteration of gamebryo
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>>339533743
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>>339534093
Not a fan of erotic mods, but Fallout New Vegas had a lot of potential for lore friendly ISIS tier slavery mods.
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>>339533995
That's not the legion though. I forget who the character's name is but he had to flee the legion because he was in a homosexual relationship with an officer or something. They don't like that shit.
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>>339534251
I know, m8. I was mostly making fun of their /fit/izen culture.
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>>339534251
Jimmy I think. There's also the NCR Major who says the Legion are more tolerant of it than the NCR stationed in Vegas. We really don't know.
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>>339533182
the kharns from fo1 if i recall correctly
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>>339534380
FINE
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>tfw no bro-tier legion companion
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>>339534445
yup
>>339534484
sry ((
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>>339533743
>could use talent to make awesome OC that everybody would fall in love with
>fuck draw some furry gay shit
it's a wild wasteland out there
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>>339534532
Heard the Ulysses companion mod is decent.
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>>339533756
downloading to see what it is.
what's the crackhead doing at the new vegas launch?
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>>339534431
Oh yeah major Knight I think
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>>339534637
He's not a bro though. Best Legion companion would be like a Fratboy where you run around smashing the mailboxes of Profligates, raping, pillaging and playing post-apocalyptic non-alcoholic beer pong
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>>339533449
Head on apply directly to the forehead
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>>339534850
Joshua and Ulysses are bro tier, m8.
>tfw best NPCs are both in DLCs
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>>339535063
Ulysses is an overly dramatic faggot, there is nothing 'bro' about him
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>>339535063
Yeah, pseudo-political ramblings that go on and on and on and a real retarded reverence of mailmen sure is a "bro".

Got me with Joshie though
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>>339535028
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>>339534562
>could make art I like
>makes art I don't like

It's okay champ, you'll get over it some day
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>>339535238
Both are rambling mystics, m8.
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>>339533385
I still feel a bit let down that there wasn't a true wastelander option where you don't ally with anyone but weaken them, leave vegas to it's own devises and return to the wastes.

It was a silly place anyways.
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>>339533756
>wav
>30MB per song
>no metadata
WTF these aren't even worth saving, not to mention they aren't even good or mildly good
and they don't fit into the fallout series either
lastly the quality seems shit too
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still liked the Big mountain dlc more :/...
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>>339535382
> trivialize the complaint
fuck off tumblr
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>>339534693
just went through the album. Weird bunch of people went to this like Anna Kendrick, Jesse Bradford and the chairman of CBS. Only two that made sense attending were Felicia Day and Wayne Newton.
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>>339535240
feels like i'm wearing

NOTHING AT ALL
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Anybody know how to get to New Vegas from the Capital? Everyone says go from Dukat's place, I know, but it still doesn't help too much. I've been walking around for about 30 minutes trying to find this station.
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>>339535405
none of the games have such an option
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>>339535392
Joshua does not ramble. At least not nearly as long as Ulysses unless you prompt him to. Outside of him quoting about dashing babies off of rocks he doesn't have an exactly long spiel.
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>>339533387
>literally everyone's medical-whore
>best faction
Get back to healing our wounded you slut.
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>>339533182
UNGA BUNGA BUY ROCKSTATION 4
>IT HAS NO PEBBLES
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What do you think Flagstaff looks like? Fortification Hill on steroids? Or an actual town?
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>>339535597
if you're using TTW, go to the train station and take the train.
crazy sexy guy's place is sorta on the way there, look at the modpage, must be a map on there
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>>339535636
Not only are you wrong in assuming I implied they did,
you are also wrong in general.
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>>339535701
NCR would go to shit if the Followers withdrew their support. They're openly anarchist against NCR policies and they just can't afford to let them go because of how popular they are among the people and the services they're capable of providing.
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I bet he killed all those snakes with his bare hands
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>>339535405
apparently there used to be a cut ending where you could just fucking waltz out of the mojave through Mojave Outpost and leave things the way they were before you came
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>>339535653
>unless you prompt him to
Who would have thought the character would talk when you ask them to
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>>339535430
>wav
Mod author said to use .wav files.
>no metadata
that matters why?
>aren't even good and don't fit
kys lad
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>>339535547
Haven't heard that phrase in a while...
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>>339535930
that's what I'm saying retard. If you complain about Joshua talking too much it's because you kept pressing him.
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>>339535834
Oh I found out why I couldn't find it. The mod is bugged and the entrance is non-existent. Great.

Thanks though.
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>>339535878
it doesn't have such an option, you didn't chose that to happen, it happens to you because that's part of the story not because of player influence, thereby it's not an option, i am still correct.
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>>339535893
>seize all Follower texts and holotapes
>train their own doctors
>reinvent health insurance

The American Way
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>>339536151
>make a move against the Followers
>people riot and go apeshit
>whatever President is currently in power gets utterly buttfucked because lol democracy

NCR tried their own science department with the OSI. Meanwhile, the Followers still have the only form of higher education in the whole wasteland.
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>>339533315
Enough with this shitty picture, find something better to post in fallout threads.
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>>339535430
not enough, "lel nukes 1950s XD," for ya?
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>playing NCR
>do the brotherhood quest as a double agent to learn more about them
>end up becoming a member
>tell them the NCR wants to destroy them and get them to agree to a truce
>then blow their bunker to smithereens
>go do the entirety of OWB
>get to the dam to tell Moore I wasted those terrorists
>there's a brotherhood paladin standing with her
>and my only option is to tell her they agreed to a truce

how do I unfuck this? Is there a console command?

I don't want brotherhood fags at the final battle and I definitely don't want their ending to be anything but the crater in the ground I buried them in
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>>339536094
If being right on the internet means so much to you, I'll let you have it.
You are partially correct.
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>>339536397
>he thinks the followers are a large enough faction to have more than a handful of people give a flying fuck about it.
Sure there'd be some disgruntled cucks scattered around New Vegas, but you're kidding yourself if you think the NCR would see any riots.
Any at all.
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>>339533431
If you'd prefer an FPS over just using VATS, there are some mods that help the shooting.
I mean, it's no stalker, but there are mods that ease the pain.

>NVSR
fixes some microstutter
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34832/?

>Hitmans First Person Overhaul
not shit animations
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61501/?

>AI Tactics - Healing / Combat Enhancer
dramatically improve enemy ai
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58431/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39058/?

>Improved Automatic Iron Sight Recoil/remove camera recoil
add real recoil, remove fake recoil
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46433/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44253/?

>Realistic Weapon Damages
make everything not sponges
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35335/?

There's other gun mods, for realistic reloading, jamming, etc if you're a masochist, but the above is unfortunately all you can do for base fps mechanics.

>>339533756
Doing doGs work anon.

Also /r/ing the new vegas spurdo picture of the courier and mr house.
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>>339536694
yeah, probably some 'set queststage hurrdurrbrotherQM05 to 14' thing, look it up.
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>>339536397
Anyone can be discredited

And with the Followers it's as simple as making them admit they were the ones who taught the Khans to make drugs, which were then sold to Fiends, who then carried on the Khan's war with the NCR by proxy

Public support is hard to hold onto when you will help literally anyone and shirk the responsibilities that come from it
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>>339533315

DUDE ANARCHY LMAO
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>>339536887
Thanks, i barely use VATS in this game because for some reason (And i don't know if i'm spoiler by FO4 because of what i'm about to say), first of all whenever i get into VATS the game pauses for a second and then it zooms in, that delay is really annoying

Also, i find myself being a better shot out of VATS but i just can't help to think that i'm missing shots because the aiming is still as fuck
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>>339536046
that's what I'm saying retard. If you complain about Ulysses talking too much it's because you kept pressing him.
calm down edgefag
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>>339537143
Eh, alot of that has to due with the gun skill, there's some spread/accuracy mods, but I just use Jsawyer and level guns if i'm using them.

VATs is still annoyingly overpowered, still less than in fallout 3. Not much you can do outside of project nevadas slowmo or not using it.
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why does first recon use rifles that look like they're falling apart instead of sniper rifles?
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>>339536085
you're most likely looking the wrong place, also there are switches you need to activate for the doors to open
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>>339536725
it doesn't have that option, deal with it.
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>>339536743
Hildern (or it may be Julie) literally says the NCR are too scared to fully denounce them entirely because of the backlash it would have within the territories. The Followers are sitting in NCR territory speaking out against their policies and they cannot do fucking jack about it.

>>339537012
They make up the majority of the healers and teachers within the NCR, very supportive roles like that are hard to turn against. The Followers also quite freely admit that they supplied and helped the Khan's before withdrawing all their aid when it went sour.
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>>339537359
Yeah, thank god for PN's bullet time because i do NOT like VATS in any 3D game outside 4

Also, i don't know what they are going to do when they make a new FO but they really need to get rid of the shitty Pip-Boy HUD
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>>339533385
What? A realistic/balanced look at the choices you can make? Get this out of here!
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>>339537062
>>339536684
fucking leave
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>>339537358
Ulysses stops you every few minutes in your tracks to hit you with another philosophy. Joshua does not.
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>>339537632
Does Julie dye her pubes too?
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>>339538075
you're thinking of Nicole, Julie has brown hair
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>>339533743
Oh those wacky deathclaws
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>>339537632
Speaking out is one thing. Abetting state enemies & actively sabotaging government activities is another.
The 'there'd be outcry if we were kicked out' might be in large part due to 'they got kicked out for disagreeing with the gubmint', not just 'da followers da bes'.
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>>339538340
what mod
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>>339536887
>Hitmans First Person Overhaul
>adds sounds to aiming/sneaking

I don't understand why you'd ever want or need that
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>>339537560
Still doesn't change the fact that I never said it did in the first place.
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Why aren't there cats in NV?
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>>339537645
The main issue is just how much STUFF you can carry in the vanilla game. Having a grid like in stalker would take forever (for a controller) to navigate.

I know some modders have made real-time inventory mods, but I haven't found any proper usage of it, on neither gunnetwork or nexus.

>>339538760
Either it's an optional module I've kept disabled, or I've just never noticed in my last playthrough. Is annoying, but the anims are 10/10
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>>339539040
Cats are extinct
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>>339538667
______fag____
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>>339539184
Why would they be extinct when dogs aren't?
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>>339539407
Dogs are useful in a survival situation, cats aren't.
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>>339539407
Dogs can be useful for killing intruders/mutated wildlife because they're mans best friend

Cats are edible
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>>339538340
Why are deathclaws so moe?
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So what Vaults do you see Bethesda doing next?

As maligned as Fallout 4 is, I do appreciate how the Vaults are less "dude sci-fi so whacky lmao" and more focused on these actually interesting questions. Like Vault 118 where it would've had the societal class dynamic that I'm pretty sure I read on /v/ once.
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>>339539474
>>339539490
Cats kill pests, pests that eat supplies and spread disease.
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>>339539184
Not in fallout 4
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>>339540510

The vaults were shit in fallout 4.
New Vegas did them all the best.
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>>339540609
Godspeed brave kitty cat
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>>339540510
The Vaults with no experiments that were imply shelters for people to survive the end of the world.
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>>>/vg/
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>>339540787
NV in general did everything better than 3 or 4
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>When atomic fire consumed the earth, those who survived did so in great, underground vaults. When they opened, their inhabitants set out across ruins of the old world to build new societies, establish new villages, forming tribes.
>shows Vault 11 opening

That's pretty dark
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>decide to go with House, but to also make the adjustment that I'll kill Caesar on my own
>kill Caesar, go back to House
>no dialogue about what has happened
uhhh..?
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>>339541689
vault 11 is AMAZING.

I have no words enough to express how much I enjoyed new vegas, spent over a thousand hours playing it, and I still felt like I needed more of it.
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>>339541715
Killing Caesar changes nothing in the short term so why should he care
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>>339541715
you could argue that it doesn't matter since you'll be routing the Legion anyway

but the lack of anyone substantially caring when you off Caesar has always been one of this game's big flaws for me
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>>339541917
he does explicitly tell you not to.
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>>339541715
House doesn't want you to kill Caesar
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>>339541969
House says a lot of things you can ignore
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fo4 is one step foward and 2 steps back from new vegas.

Why does bethesda even bother making games anymore if they are just going to half ass it?
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>>339541924
>hey guys I killed Caesar
>does that mean the Legion has withdrawn from the Mojave and wont be attacking Hoover Dam?
>well, no
>then I guess it doesn't matter

Only person who cares in Hanlon, and he only cares because he's looking at fighting the Legion long term and not just at the next big battle
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>>339542806
I'm surprised there's that rigid a structure in place that the Legion would keep it's ranks filled at hoover dam. Logically they should either need another ultra charismatic or brutal leader (Lanius?) or revert to infighting while dividing up the empire
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>>339543121
In the short term the imminent arrival of Legate Lanius and getting all fucked up on the need to avenge their dead leader keeps them going

Once they've been kicked back into Arizona things will start falling apart, even with Lanius in charge. Especially with Lanius.
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>>339542806
I've let Hanlon die so I can get his outfit and Ranger Seqouia
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>>339539407
>Why would they be extinct when dogs aren't?

If there is one species that deserves to be preserved along with man it's dogs. Man and dog had had a close relationship for 15,000 years.
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>>339541878
Reminder that if you actually went down the death hallway without a second thought you are too stupid to be alive.
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Are the Fudge Muppet builds any good?

https://youtu.be/QsnN_BFbsQo
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>>339543894
being stupid is better than being a coward
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>>339543983
Did you really just say that?


>>339537725
Why do people just post reaction images for no reason?0
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Anyone got any interesting builds for a new run? I heard about a samurai champloo run a couple threads ago and that sounded interesting.
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>>339543926
you can complete the game with any build you could think of. Now it depends on what exactly you want to get out of your character.
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If I made a mod to where if you where to jump on a person's head and it would do a good bit of damage, maybe a critical, people would probably like it?
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>>339543894
>Reminder that if you actually went down the death hallway without a second thought you are too stupid to be alive.

>roleplaying as myself
>just entering the vault already stretches credulity beyond breaking point
>see hallway
>nope

...

>make save file to go back to
>enter tunnel just to see what is there
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>>339545048
>If I made a mod to where if you where to jump on a person's head and it would do a good bit of damage, maybe a critical, people would probably like it?

Add mushrooms that make you double your size when you grab them.
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>>339545192
That's actually really easy to do.
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Posting rare song about Fallout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJG7QrftuP0
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>>339545086
Roleplaying as yourself isn't even necessary- any sane, non-brain-damaged human with an intact survival instinct would realize HOLY SHIT WHAT AM I DOING and NOPE right the fuck outta there.
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>>339535405
I like the idea
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>>339533385
>Caesar's Legion
>the greater good
>they're like a cartoon parody of a pointless evil, with no character or goals outside of killing the NCR and being edgy
>all of the quests for them are "go here and murder a bunch of NCR for the lulz"
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>>339545459
that's true but consider this, it's a video game
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>enjoyed Dead Money so much I went right to Freeside and picked up my very own collar to wear for the rest of the game
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>>339545619
oh I see, you didn't play the game
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>>339545390
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJG7QrftuP0
Also posting lyrics:

There is more than what you behold.
That is what we once were told.
But all that's left, is despair,
so how can you see what isn't there?

What once were verdant plains we turned
into cold and frigid earth.
The landscape has been laid to rest
in its nuclear winter dress

Searching all over this frozen soil
for a place where we can live
a place that we may call our own.

Across the barren wastelands,
away from the flame
we'll find our sanctuary,
we will prevail.

Cities of the righteous
and the proud and the just
was turned into ashes
and shattered to dust.

But a kingdom shall rise
where the stars once fell
We'll find a place
to build our castle in hell.

Who were right and who were wrong,
was decided by the strong.
Correct the faults, indoctrinate,
when it failed, eradicate.

Then the vaults got filled with crowds
as nations traded mushroom clouds.
We are not the ones to blame,
but we're bearing the burden as we're...

Searching all over this frozen soil
for a place where we can live
a place that we may call our own.

Across the barren wastelands,
away from the flame
we'll find our sanctuary,
we will prevail.

Cities of the righteous
and the proud and the just
was turned into ashes
and shattered to dust.

But a kingdom shall rise
where the stars once fell
We'll find a place
to build our castle in hell.

B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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>>339545708
slut
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>>339545708
>no qt domme gf to punish me
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>>339545619
>>Caesar's Legion
>>the greater good
>>they're like a cartoon parody of a pointless evil, with no character or goals outside of killing the NCR and being edgy

That's true, but east of the Colorado it's probably for the best that Caesar's Legion exists since it created order out of an even more brutal mess.

If it was portrayed that Caesar either had to keep expanding to maintain this order then it would be a little more even handed. Like it was just due to a force of social development that the invasion is inevitable.
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Woah nelly
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>>339546036
>>no qt domme gf to punish me

There's the ghoul dominatrix and the fisting robot that you recruit for the casino in Freeside.
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>>339546228
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>Caesar wants to build a culture capable of surviving the wasteland
>in making this culture he assimilates and destroys 86 entirely post-war cultures
>cultures with so few ties to pre-War America they don't even speak English anymore
>because a synthesis of cherry picked American and bastardized Roman values is better in the long run than the tribes who already lived with the reality of the wasteland
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>>339545459
>non-brain-damaged
So, Anyone but the courier?
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these new Bethesda servers sure suck some major dick.
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>>339547379
he discusses this with you

the tribes did very little other than primitively squabble with each other, he got them trained, united, and capable of actually accomplishing things

the endgame that he's going for arguably would be the best at surviving the wasteland
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this game is amazing, it still fucking surprises me

>hour 400, only just discovered chosen one's wrecked car
>the road from nelson to novac is littered with recruit legion bodies thanks to manny and boone
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>>339548181
He justifies himself by claiming he civilized them, it's not the same

Humanity does just fine as a large number of small, squabbling tribes. It's genetic. Just because Caesar found the tribal way of doing things to be distasteful doesn't make it a less valid way of doing things.
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>>339546228
fucking beautiful
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>>339548697
sure, it survives, but that's all

if survival alone is criteria we're using to judge things, they might as well be animals
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>>339541115
no
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>>339548973
So having their own culture, with its own art, music, oral tradition, morals and values means nothing if they're not striving to build a nation

That's bullshit and exactly why Caesar is a cunt. Neither NCR nor the Legion is better than any other wasteland society just because they're obsessed with recreating the old world.
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>>339546228
how in the fuck
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>>339546228
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>>339539407
Plenty of shit entered the ecosystems of the US that around cats' weight class, thus kind of fucking them over. Dogs live and hunt in packs, giving them a better chance against the post-nuclear bullshit.

Family cats already get picked off by hawks and shit, imagine being a cat with Cazadores around. Cats are already too curious for their own good; one swipe at a cazador, one attempt at picking off a baby Mole Rat (alerting the goddamned nest), and the kitty is dead.

It also could have been disease, radiation poisoning (cats already get leukemia pretty often), among other things.

Also, dogs would have been better preserved by people than cats. Cats were domesticated by hanging around humans, picking off rodents, and purring. Dogs are of direct utility as guards, bird dogs, scent dogs, and even livestock in the event of a survival catastrophe.
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GIRLS

GIRLS

WATCH OUT

WATCH OUT
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>>339549458
a nation can accomplish things, a mass of squabbling tribes can't

caesar makes it pretty clear he doesn't see anything meaningful to be gained from their cultures

as far as he's concerned, the only culture that the world needs is the one he's creating
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>exploring a cave by yourself
>kinda tired, spent the last week in the desert scrounging for caps
>come across this
>corpse is still warm
>no one is around
>looted some pre-war condoms from a shack the previous day
>what do?
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>>339550360
That's Redesigned 2/3?
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I don't want to leave the kongou
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>>339547379
I'm not seeing the problem
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>>339546228
Who's the savages now? Boom!
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>>339550371
>Corpse is still warm
>look around for whatever killed her.
>than fuck her
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>>339550964
fapfapfap
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>>339546228
how the fuck the gamebryo engine is moving that

what kind of magic is this what the fuck
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>>339546228

what inspires someone to make this
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>>339550639
At least post the NCR Ranger Mutsuki.
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>>339550360
>accomplish things
Like what? Build roads, dig wells, fund public schooling? Form corrupt democracies or cults of personality? Annex or enslave independent populations for the greater good? Find other nations and fight long, pointless wars over ideology? Build bombs to end the world?

What is it about nations that's so great it must be forced on people rather than letting them rebuild it naturally, in their own time, like we did back in the dawn of civilization?
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>>339550964
I'd fuck the thing that killed her desu
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>>339551143
Calm down, it's just an invisible NPC wearing a hat.
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>>339550360
What mods for that appearance? Aside from the enb
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>>339551759
it worked for the metro thing so I kinda believe it
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>>339551915

Looks like FCO.
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>>339551984
Metrokun was such a qt
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>>339548181
Caesar's whole purpose as a character is to convince you that he is good for the wasteland, and you actually fell for it. Good job, champ.
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Who else here understands the simple fact that the Followers of the Apocalypse are the one and only truly "good" faction in the game?
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>>339551143

My guess is that the flight patterns are pre-determined, similar to riding the Dovah in Skyrim.
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>>339552267
>post-apocalyptic wasteland
>not beyond good and evil
))))))
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>>339545619
That has to do with the cut content
the legion was supposed to have much more quests but due to time constrains they had to decide which bigger faction would have more content and went with NCR
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>yfw the first time this happened
I was playing at night and was getting comfy
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>>339552449
NCR is the most bland of the three big ones, really can't understand why they went with the faction that needs the least content to be properly understood.
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>>339551412
Our most important cultural developments did not stem from tribes clashing with one another, but with organized states going to war. Caesar knew other, national cultures existed, and he rejected them. He saw the tribals and their conquest as a chance to build what he considered a "better" culture, and he took it. He intends to refine that culture through war.
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>>339552449
The issue was that the extra Legion content required them to make a new area and new towns east of the Colorado

The NCR got the lions share of the quests because NCR's questgivers were situated entirely within the confines of the map they had built
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>>339552401
Doesn't look it to me. The way he searches for and lines up shots on moving Deathclaws makes it hard for me to believe it's a predetermined route.
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>>339552603
This always bothered me too why spend so much time on a faction that has it's real world equivalents still kicking.
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>>339551412
that "building naturally" leads straight to all the things you're talking about.

caesar sees the legion as a way to build something better, that otherwise couldn't have formed naturally

>>339551915
NMC, Character overhaul, RW, interior lighting overhaul, and Onix ENB are the graphics ones that I can remember

>>339552131
I disagree with the guy, but I can understand where he's coming from, and think that anon was arguing against him for the wrong reasons

I consider the best endings to be independent vegas and house
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>>339552689
They could've developed the existing legion locations. Add more civilians and highlight the social interactions within Legion territory(like that merchant that you can question at the entrance of Caesar's base).
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>>339552958
Maybe to have bigger appeal to masses
Most people outside of here probably went with NCR because it was easier to understand
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>>339546228
Dem negative Gs tho
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>>339553171
see
>>339553138
They seem to have approached it as an all or nothing thing in late development.
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>>339552958
for what it's worth, the NCR is the biggest and most dominant faction in the wasteland, who have a massive influence on things no matter who you side with.

house mainly deals with vegas, legion are mostly on their side of the river, but the NCR are everywhere
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>>339553583
Yes, but that is a part of lore that can be explained in dialogue, doesn't mean that you have to give preferential treatment to it in 'screen time'.
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>>339553583
I like the Rangers and the grunts have a kind of Vietnam War feel to them, what the low morale and poor logistics also the Service Rifle
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>>339553737
>don't show, tell
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>>339553835
Yeah, the whole sort of attrition war thing going on with the Legion bleeding the NCR gives a great feel aswell. Only thing I wish there was is that there'd be more NCR and Legion patrols coming into skirmishes with eachother out in the wastes.
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>>339552958
probably because the NCR is one of the biggest things from Fallout 1/2, and Obsidian was making a true sequel to those versus Betheda's fucking abortion of a game.
However I do agree they're pretty bland.
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>>339552973
Here's the thing: The great nation state that Caesar wants to build? The culture that will not only survive the wasteland, but thrive in it? It's not the Legion.

He has spent decades absorbing tribes, eradicating cultures, enslaving and killing people to create one half of what he considers to be the ideal wasteland nation. The other half is NCR.

Until he conquers NCR, and it's incredibly unlikely he will, all he's done is create one large raider tribe that follows his cult of personality, not his ideology or philosophy, one that wont long survive his death.

The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
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>>339553737
well, it's also the case that while the other factions are fairly monolithic - house is house and the legion is an extension of caesar, the NCR is a fractured and messy bureaucracy, made of many sub-factions, all with their own issues and conflicts
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>>339554016
Pretty sure there are mods for that. That sort of thing probably didn't make it in due to console limitations.

Consoles ruined so much of the game that wasn't already hampered by using Gamebryo
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>>339554094
So, what you're saying is that Caesar hates the NCR because they have what he strives for, and he thinks that by destroying them he can take it from them?
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FUCK YOU /V/, MADE ME REINSTALL THIS SHIT
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>>339554094
well yeah, he's using the legion as a foundation for the new society, and to take things to the next level, he needs the mojave

I wouldn't say it's incredibly unlikely, either, he's got spies, a solid military, and understands the weaknesses of the NCR. He's certainly still at a disadvantage,compared to them, but I don't think a victory for him is implausible.

for what it's worth, the natural evolution you're talking about would basically lead to something like the NCR anyway
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>>339554443
Outside forces don't control you anon.
In your heart, you wanted this all along.
Now buy the new game you cow-rustlin sunuvagun.
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>>339553897
Gameworld =/= Setting. As a RPG with branching paths and what not, underdeveloping one of the major factions is a major flaw.

The world map of New Vegas is a shrinked version of the geographic areal present in the lore in which locations are picked based on relevance to plot and gameplay.

You can make an equal number of faction specific locations and show the primacy of the NCR through other means(IG politics, more NCR than Legion patrols, dialogue etc). "Show, don't tell" only applies if you use characters as information dumps instead of their natural interactions shaping the lore, such as in the case of that merchant in Legion territory.
>>339554426
No, Caesar built his Legion as the opposite of the NCR on a flawed understanding of Hegelian thought.
>thesis
NCR
>antithesis
Caesar's Legion
>synthesis
The melding of the values and outlook of the two societies once NCR territory is conquered by the Legion.
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post more slutty deathclaws
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>>339554094
There is no guarantee those tribes would've evolved naturally, or in the way that Caesar wanted them to, before the NCR swept in and annexed/assimilated him. They are not evolving in a vacuum. It's not "incredibly unlikely" at all that Caesar won't conquer the NCR if you run a successful Legion playthrough. He desires New Vegas because it provides an iconic city and the makings of a less militaristic culture to build an empire off of.
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>>339538340
and people say that fallout 4 doesn't give you choices.
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Am i one of the few that kind of misses the old style armor sets, maybe its just bethesdas poor art designers but none of the armor pieces go well together in fallout 4 most armor especially heavy look like complete shit to me
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>>339538340
>>339538667
I actually want to know what mod it is too.
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>>339554094
These "cultures" have no reason to exist, they might as well just be street gangs. They're founded on ignorance and superstition and to call them savage is giving them too much credit.

>The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
It totally wouldn't. 200 years ago their ancestors were civilized people with knowledge of science and history. Isolation has just degraded them into being the petty warmongers you claim Caesar is
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>>339555078
Making them modular will DEFINITELY mess with their design.
But no, Modular armor is the way to go.
I only wish they'd put more effort in & made it dynamic.
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>>339554094
>The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
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>>339555221
I guess its just bethesdas lack of skill also fuck DR
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>>339555214
>They're founded on ignorance and superstition

Uh, and the Legion isn't? Caesar literally keeps them retarded on purpose so they're easier to control.
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>>339554270
Only one I've found is WARZONES but it doesn't scratch that itch very well.
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>>339543538
>forgetting our dark knights, the cats, who safeguarded our agriculture for millennia
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>>339555701
Reminder,
>>339540850
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>>339555452
not really

it's more that he doesn't want an army that's dependent on technology, he sees a strong spirit and tenacity as being more important, which are what the legion's culture is designed around building.

it's not so much around making them easy to control as it is about making them more effective
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>>339554949
>>339554683
It's very unlikely. Do you know why NCR is in a position to lose the Second Battle of Hoover Dam despite having the numbers and elites to effectively march across the Colorado and take the fight to Caesar?

Because the NCR's army is run by an idiot. A man who deliberately sets things up so he can play gloryhound and beat the Legion assault in a meatgrinder, his troopers versus the Legion's best. Because he's a traditional soldier and offended that elite Rangers got all the credit for winning the First Battle of Hoover Dam. A man so incompetent he can't even defend the Dam properly in the final battle.

Whatever the Legion makes up for in Frumentarii and sheer brutality, they lose out by being tactically inflexible and far too reliant on their chain of command to keep a battle going. In a proper war fought by competent people it wouldn't even be a fair fight.
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>>339554745
Reducing the amount of content for the NCR isn't the solution, especially when they're the most appealing and relatable faction regardless of the content disparity.
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>>339555857
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>>339555214
>These "cultures" have no reason to exist
No culture has a "reason" to exist beyond ensuring the survival of the people within it
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>>339533385
I allied with house for the sole reason that though he was a bit of an arrogant prick, he was good to me and I wanted to repay him with my loyalty.

Caesar doesn't give a shit about you, nobody in the NCR gives a shit about you, Yes Man is an unfeeling machine, but House genuinely wants and needs your trust and support.

It was way more rewarding working for him than anyone else.
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>>339555918
>regardless of the content disparity
That's exactly the point. They are the easiest to understand and identify with, ergo content for the NCR is the least important.
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>>339556030
>ensuring the survival of the people within it
Which the Legion culture does better and at a higher quality of life.
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>>339555861
and caesar understands this, and sees it as his opportunity

were the NCR run by someone actually competent, he'd probably play a far more passive game
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>>339556053
>he didn't get his rewarding feels from the ending slides
>instead relied on a raisin in a tube
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>>339555857
And the part where he declared himself the Son of Mars and divinely appointed ruler of the Legion who was gifted Latin and Roman military structure by a bolt from the blue?

That part was to keep them ignorant and docile
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>>339556053
if you like house so much why don't you marry him!
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>>339538340
The fuck? this isn't amod is it? just edited pic?
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>>339556072
That's not how developers prioritize things. The content that most will experience will receive the most polish and focus. More players will be drawn to the NCR than they will the Legion. Thus, the NCR has more content. There are still Legion options for almost every NCR-related quest, however. Helios One, Forlorn Hope, Camp McCarran, the Strip, etc. all receive Legion content. The Legion just has fewer civilian locations because there's no reason for them to establish towns in what is, for them, a hotly contested warzone.
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>>339556316
well hey, it's easier than trying to explain his ideologies to every last one of them
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>>339555452
Which is fine, because they needed to be controlled. Even if Caesar dies and the Legion evaporates the wasteland is still a better place by assimilation of the cancerous and arbitrarily divided tribes.

The NCR is doing the wasteland a disservice by allowing the Great Khans to exist, their proud 'culture' is literally that of bandits that rape and pillage and then pull out 'muh bitter springs' when they get a taste of their own medicine
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>>339556182
Legion culture is objectively shit for everyone who is actually part of the Legion.

Sure, the common man left behind after the Legion has come through and taken its tithe of human bodies is pretty well off but for the men and women that comprise the Legion itself? Not so comfortable. The men are expendable cannon fodder, the women breeding machines and menial labourers.
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>>339551143
Gamebryo isn't actually a bad engine and Creation is a much better engine than it, if someone really puts their mind to it they can figure out how to do things Bethesda hasn't tried yet
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>Mod Organizer won't let me install mods
FML
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>>339555861
>In a proper war fought by competent people it wouldn't even be a fair fight.
And if the Legion wins the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the NCR won't have any of that. Their military would have been broken, their presidents and generals disgraced, their economy tanked, and their will broken. The NCR itself might fracture, which would do nothing but benefit Caesar when he presents himself as a beacon of order, stability, and spartan equality. He gets his civilization all the same.
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>>339546228
>it would probably be easier to make this plane in an actual post-apocalyptic wasteland than to make it like this in the Gamebyro engine
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