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Reminder.
>>339533315
just stop*
>>339533315
Proper reminder.
>>339533182
The Followers are literally the best faction in the entire franchise.
Everytime i see threads on /v/ about NV i get interested to play it again
I started to play the game and got through until i reached the place where they have the Glowing Ghoul along with some Brotherhood guys. I stopped playing the game because i just coudn't stand the FPS aspect of it, it felt really still and clunky
Is there any mod that fixes this? I only remember getting enviromental mods that made the game look awesome (And Project Nevada)
It seems like a great experience but i wish it played more like HL1 or CS1.6 (Only the FPS aspect of it), or anything more fluid than the shitty FO3 engine
Love that song fuck now it's in my head for days
>>339533354
soooo, I've got type 3 body+beware of girl and Breeze's male body are there any mods that improve the look of character's faces?
>>339533463
>>339533449
>listening to that song while reading Tintin's adventures and talking about NV
#comfy
>>339533504
FCO I guess
>>339533387
mah nigga
>>339533550
Rip
>>339533431
Dont think there is a mod for it really. Better to just stick to vats. I use realistic weapon damage to make combat a bit faster.
is raider pussy loose and smelly?
>>339533504
yeah. nothing like what you get for TES games though, they're going to look like aliens no matter what you do.
>>339533387
They would be if they weren't such huge pussies
>>339533182
posting best radio station
nexus mod first
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55508/?
and then the music files here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufogofxgpfkmh3z/radiobabyblue.rar?dl=0
>>339533736
Dunno, legion tribal boipussi is bretty gud
>>339533431
Personally, I've used the instant headshot death mod (has exceptions like pistol shots when wearing helmets and some calibres or other shit) and Project Nevada tweaked to all hell and back to my personal liking of everyone being crippled in a few rifle shots on that limb to give a sort of STALKER feeling to it of intense gunfights.
If you want some added difficulty, which never hurts, I recommend you get the true wasteland economy mod for a fun easy time.
>>339533784
But legion doesn't like homosex
>>339533752
Because they're pacifists? They're perfectly willing to fight in self defense.
>>339533789
>collatoral
>o
Am I missing a pun?
>>339533867
>implying
>>339533743
She's a thick gal.
>>339533743
that's what I figured
skyrim body mods look so good
then again it makes sense since it was built on a newer iteration of gamebryo
>>339534093
Not a fan of erotic mods, but Fallout New Vegas had a lot of potential for lore friendly ISIS tier slavery mods.
>>339533995
That's not the legion though. I forget who the character's name is but he had to flee the legion because he was in a homosexual relationship with an officer or something. They don't like that shit.
>>339534251
I know, m8. I was mostly making fun of their /fit/izen culture.
>>339534251
Jimmy I think. There's also the NCR Major who says the Legion are more tolerant of it than the NCR stationed in Vegas. We really don't know.
>>339533182
the kharns from fo1 if i recall correctly
>tfw no bro-tier legion companion
>>339534445
yup
>>339534484
sry ((
>>339533743
>could use talent to make awesome OC that everybody would fall in love with
>fuck draw some furry gay shit
it's a wild wasteland out there
>>339534532
Heard the Ulysses companion mod is decent.
>>339533756
downloading to see what it is.
what's the crackhead doing at the new vegas launch?
>>339534431
Oh yeah major Knight I think
>>339534637
He's not a bro though. Best Legion companion would be like a Fratboy where you run around smashing the mailboxes of Profligates, raping, pillaging and playing post-apocalyptic non-alcoholic beer pong
>>339533449Head on apply directly to the forehead
>>339534850
Joshua and Ulysses are bro tier, m8.
>tfw best NPCs are both in DLCs
>>339535063
Ulysses is an overly dramatic faggot, there is nothing 'bro' about him
>>339535063
Yeah, pseudo-political ramblings that go on and on and on and a real retarded reverence of mailmen sure is a "bro".
Got me with Joshie though
>>339534562
>could make art I like
>makes art I don't like
It's okay champ, you'll get over it some day
>>339535238
Both are rambling mystics, m8.
>>339533385
I still feel a bit let down that there wasn't a true wastelander option where you don't ally with anyone but weaken them, leave vegas to it's own devises and return to the wastes.
It was a silly place anyways.
>>339533756
>wav
>30MB per song
>no metadata
WTF these aren't even worth saving, not to mention they aren't even good or mildly good
and they don't fit into the fallout series either
lastly the quality seems shit too
still liked the Big mountain dlc more :/...
>>339535382
> trivialize the complaint
fuck off tumblr
>>339534693
just went through the album. Weird bunch of people went to this like Anna Kendrick, Jesse Bradford and the chairman of CBS. Only two that made sense attending were Felicia Day and Wayne Newton.
>>339535240
feels like i'm wearing
NOTHING AT ALL
Anybody know how to get to New Vegas from the Capital? Everyone says go from Dukat's place, I know, but it still doesn't help too much. I've been walking around for about 30 minutes trying to find this station.
>>339535405
none of the games have such an option
>>339535392
Joshua does not ramble. At least not nearly as long as Ulysses unless you prompt him to. Outside of him quoting about dashing babies off of rocks he doesn't have an exactly long spiel.
>>339533387
>literally everyone's medical-whore
>best faction
Get back to healing our wounded you slut.
>>339533182
UNGA BUNGA BUY ROCKSTATION 4
>IT HAS NO PEBBLES
What do you think Flagstaff looks like? Fortification Hill on steroids? Or an actual town?
>>339535597
if you're using TTW, go to the train station and take the train.
crazy sexy guy's place is sorta on the way there, look at the modpage, must be a map on there
>>339535636
Not only are you wrong in assuming I implied they did,
you are also wrong in general.
>>339535701
NCR would go to shit if the Followers withdrew their support. They're openly anarchist against NCR policies and they just can't afford to let them go because of how popular they are among the people and the services they're capable of providing.
I bet he killed all those snakes with his bare hands
>>339535405
apparently there used to be a cut ending where you could just fucking waltz out of the mojave through Mojave Outpost and leave things the way they were before you came
>>339535653
>unless you prompt him to
Who would have thought the character would talk when you ask them to
>>339535430
>wav
Mod author said to use .wav files.
>no metadata
that matters why?
>aren't even good and don't fit
kys lad
>>339535547
Haven't heard that phrase in a while...
>>339535930
that's what I'm saying retard. If you complain about Joshua talking too much it's because you kept pressing him.
>>339535834
Oh I found out why I couldn't find it. The mod is bugged and the entrance is non-existent. Great.
Thanks though.
>>339535878
it doesn't have such an option, you didn't chose that to happen, it happens to you because that's part of the story not because of player influence, thereby it's not an option, i am still correct.
>>339535893
>seize all Follower texts and holotapes
>train their own doctors
>reinvent health insurance
The American Way
>>339536151
>make a move against the Followers
>people riot and go apeshit
>whatever President is currently in power gets utterly buttfucked because lol democracy
NCR tried their own science department with the OSI. Meanwhile, the Followers still have the only form of higher education in the whole wasteland.
>>339533315
Enough with this shitty picture, find something better to post in fallout threads.
>>339535430
not enough, "lel nukes 1950s XD," for ya?
>playing NCR
>do the brotherhood quest as a double agent to learn more about them
>end up becoming a member
>tell them the NCR wants to destroy them and get them to agree to a truce
>then blow their bunker to smithereens
>go do the entirety of OWB
>get to the dam to tell Moore I wasted those terrorists
>there's a brotherhood paladin standing with her
>and my only option is to tell her they agreed to a truce
how do I unfuck this? Is there a console command?
I don't want brotherhood fags at the final battle and I definitely don't want their ending to be anything but the crater in the ground I buried them in
>>339536094
If being right on the internet means so much to you, I'll let you have it.
You arepartiallycorrect.
>>339536397
>he thinks the followers are a large enough faction to have more than a handful of people give a flying fuck about it.
Sure there'd be some disgruntled cucks scattered around New Vegas, but you're kidding yourself if you think the NCR would see any riots.
Any at all.
>>339533431
If you'd prefer an FPS over just using VATS, there are some mods that help the shooting.
I mean, it's no stalker, but there are mods that ease the pain.
>NVSR
fixes some microstutter
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34832/?
>Hitmans First Person Overhaul
not shit animations
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61501/?
>AI Tactics - Healing / Combat Enhancer
dramatically improve enemy ai
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58431/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39058/?
>Improved Automatic Iron Sight Recoil/remove camera recoil
add real recoil, remove fake recoil
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46433/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44253/?
>Realistic Weapon Damages
make everything not sponges
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35335/?
There's other gun mods, for realistic reloading, jamming, etc if you're a masochist, but the above is unfortunately all you can do for base fps mechanics.
>>339533756
Doing doGs work anon.
Also /r/ing the new vegas spurdo picture of the courier and mr house.
>>339536694
yeah, probably some 'set queststage hurrdurrbrotherQM05 to 14' thing, look it up.
>>339536397
Anyone can be discredited
And with the Followers it's as simple as making them admit they were the ones who taught the Khans to make drugs, which were then sold to Fiends, who then carried on the Khan's war with the NCR by proxy
Public support is hard to hold onto when you will help literally anyone and shirk the responsibilities that come from it
>>339533315
DUDE ANARCHY LMAO
>>339536887
Thanks, i barely use VATS in this game because for some reason (And i don't know if i'm spoiler by FO4 because of what i'm about to say), first of all whenever i get into VATS the game pauses for a second and then it zooms in, that delay is really annoying
Also, i find myself being a better shot out of VATS but i just can't help to think that i'm missing shots because the aiming is still as fuck
>>339536046
that's what I'm saying retard. If you complain about Ulysses talking too much it's because you kept pressing him.
calm down edgefag
>>339537143
Eh, alot of that has to due with the gun skill, there's some spread/accuracy mods, but I just use Jsawyer and level guns if i'm using them.
VATs is still annoyingly overpowered, still less than in fallout 3. Not much you can do outside of project nevadas slowmo or not using it.
why does first recon use rifles that look like they're falling apart instead of sniper rifles?
>>339536085
you're most likely looking the wrong place, also there are switches you need to activate for the doors to open
>>339536725
it doesn't have that option, deal with it.
>>339536743
Hildern (or it may be Julie) literally says the NCR are too scared to fully denounce them entirely because of the backlash it would have within the territories. The Followers are sitting in NCR territory speaking out against their policies and they cannot do fucking jack about it.
>>339537012
They make up the majority of the healers and teachers within the NCR, very supportive roles like that are hard to turn against. The Followers also quite freely admit that they supplied and helped the Khan's before withdrawing all their aid when it went sour.
>>339537359
Yeah, thank god for PN's bullet time because i do NOT like VATS in any 3D game outside 4
Also, i don't know what they are going to do when they make a new FO but they really need to get rid of the shitty Pip-Boy HUD
>>339533385
What? A realistic/balanced look at the choices you can make? Get this out of here!
>>339537062
>>339536684
fucking leave
>>339537358
Ulysses stops you every few minutes in your tracks to hit you with another philosophy. Joshua does not.
>>339537632
Does Julie dye her pubes too?
>>339538075
you're thinking of Nicole, Julie has brown hair
>>339533743
Oh those wacky deathclaws
>>339537632
Speaking out is one thing. Abetting state enemies & actively sabotaging government activities is another.
The 'there'd be outcry if we were kicked out' might be in large part due to 'they got kicked out for disagreeing with the gubmint', not just 'da followers da bes'.
>>339538340what mod
>>339536887
>Hitmans First Person Overhaul
>adds sounds to aiming/sneaking
I don't understand why you'd ever want or need that
>>339537560
Still doesn't change the fact that I never said it did in the first place.
Why aren't there cats in NV?
>>339537645
The main issue is just how much STUFF you can carry in the vanilla game. Having a grid like in stalker would take forever (for a controller) to navigate.
I know some modders have made real-time inventory mods, but I haven't found any proper usage of it, on neither gunnetwork or nexus.
>>339538760
Either it's an optional module I've kept disabled, or I've just never noticed in my last playthrough. Is annoying, but the anims are 10/10
>>339539040
Cats are extinct
>>339538667______fag____
>>339539184
Why would they be extinct when dogs aren't?
>>339539407
Dogs are useful in a survival situation, cats aren't.
>>339539407
Dogs can be useful for killing intruders/mutated wildlife because they're mans best friend
Cats are edible
>>339538340
Why are deathclaws so moe?
So what Vaults do you see Bethesda doing next?
As maligned as Fallout 4 is, I do appreciate how the Vaults are less "dude sci-fi so whacky lmao" and more focused on these actually interesting questions. Like Vault 118 where it would've had the societal class dynamic that I'm pretty sure I read on /v/ once.
>>339539474
>>339539490
Cats kill pests, pests that eat supplies and spread disease.
>>339539184Not in fallout 4
>>339540510
The vaults were shit in fallout 4.
New Vegas did them all the best.
>>339540609
Godspeed brave kitty cat
>>339540510
The Vaults with no experiments that were imply shelters for people to survive the end of the world.
>>339540787
NV in general did everything better than 3 or 4
>When atomic fire consumed the earth, those who survived did so in great, underground vaults. When they opened, their inhabitants set out across ruins of the old world to build new societies, establish new villages, forming tribes.
>shows Vault 11 opening
That's pretty dark
>decide to go with House, but to also make the adjustment that I'll kill Caesar on my own
>kill Caesar, go back to House
>no dialogue about what has happened
uhhh..?
>>339541689
vault 11 is AMAZING.
I have no words enough to express how much I enjoyed new vegas, spent over a thousand hours playing it, and I still felt like I needed more of it.
>>339541715
Killing Caesar changes nothing in the short term so why should he care
>>339541715
you could argue that it doesn't matter since you'll be routing the Legion anywaybut the lack of anyone substantially caring when you off Caesar has always been one of this game's big flaws for me
>>339541917
he does explicitly tell you not to.
>>339541715
House doesn't want you to kill Caesar
>>339541969
House says a lot of things you can ignore
fo4 is one step foward and 2 steps back from new vegas.
Why does bethesda even bother making games anymore if they are just going to half ass it?
>>339541924
>hey guys I killed Caesar
>does that mean the Legion has withdrawn from the Mojave and wont be attacking Hoover Dam?
>well, no
>then I guess it doesn't matter
Only person who cares in Hanlon, and he only cares because he's looking at fighting the Legion long term and not just at the next big battle
>>339542806
I'm surprised there's that rigid a structure in place that the Legion would keep it's ranks filled at hoover dam. Logically they should either need another ultra charismatic or brutal leader (Lanius?) or revert to infighting while dividing up the empire
>>339543121
In the short term the imminent arrival of Legate Lanius and getting all fucked up on the need to avenge their dead leader keeps them going
Once they've been kicked back into Arizona things will start falling apart, even with Lanius in charge. Especially with Lanius.
>>339542806
I've let Hanlon die so I can get his outfit and Ranger Seqouia
>>339539407
>Why would they be extinct when dogs aren't?
If there is one species that deserves to be preserved along with man it's dogs. Man and dog had had a close relationship for 15,000 years.
>>339541878
Reminder that if you actually went down the death hallway without a second thought you are too stupid to be alive.
Are the Fudge Muppet builds any good?
https://youtu.be/QsnN_BFbsQo
>>339543894
being stupid is better than being a coward
>>339543983
Did you really just say that?
>>339537725
Why do people just post reaction images for no reason?0
Anyone got any interesting builds for a new run? I heard about a samurai champloo run a couple threads ago and that sounded interesting.
>>339543926
you can complete the game with any build you could think of. Now it depends on what exactly you want to get out of your character.
If I made a mod to where if you where to jump on a person's head and it would do a good bit of damage, maybe a critical, people would probably like it?
>>339543894
>Reminder that if you actually went down the death hallway without a second thought you are too stupid to be alive.
>roleplaying as myself
>just entering the vault already stretches credulity beyond breaking point
>see hallway
>nope
...
>make save file to go back to
>enter tunnel just to see what is there
>>339545048
>If I made a mod to where if you where to jump on a person's head and it would do a good bit of damage, maybe a critical, people would probably like it?
Add mushrooms that make you double your size when you grab them.
>>339545192
That's actually really easy to do.
Posting rare song about Fallout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJG7QrftuP0
>>339545086
Roleplaying as yourself isn't even necessary- any sane, non-brain-damaged human with an intact survival instinct would realize HOLY SHIT WHAT AM I DOING and NOPE right the fuck outta there.
>>339535405
I like the idea
>>339533385
>Caesar's Legion
>the greater good
>they're like a cartoon parody of a pointless evil, with no character or goals outside of killing the NCR and being edgy
>all of the quests for them are "go here and murder a bunch of NCR for the lulz"
>>339545459
that's true but consider this, it's a video game
>enjoyed Dead Money so much I went right to Freeside and picked up my very own collar to wear for the rest of the game
>>339545619
oh I see, you didn't play the game
>>339545390
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJG7QrftuP0
Also posting lyrics:
There is more than what you behold.
That is what we once were told.
But all that's left, is despair,
so how can you see what isn't there?
What once were verdant plains we turned
into cold and frigid earth.
The landscape has been laid to rest
in its nuclear winter dress
Searching all over this frozen soil
for a place where we can live
a place that we may call our own.
Across the barren wastelands,
away from the flame
we'll find our sanctuary,
we will prevail.
Cities of the righteous
and the proud and the just
was turned into ashes
and shattered to dust.
But a kingdom shall rise
where the stars once fell
We'll find a place
to build our castle in hell.
Who were right and who were wrong,
was decided by the strong.
Correct the faults, indoctrinate,
when it failed, eradicate.
Then the vaults got filled with crowds
as nations traded mushroom clouds.
We are not the ones to blame,
but we're bearing the burden as we're...
Searching all over this frozen soil
for a place where we can live
a place that we may call our own.
Across the barren wastelands,
away from the flame
we'll find our sanctuary,
we will prevail.
Cities of the righteous
and the proud and the just
was turned into ashes
and shattered to dust.
But a kingdom shall rise
where the stars once fell
We'll find a place
to build our castle in hell.
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>339545708
slut
>>339545708
>no qt domme gf to punish me
>>339545619
>>Caesar's Legion
>>the greater good
>>they're like a cartoon parody of a pointless evil, with no character or goals outside of killing the NCR and being edgy
That's true, but east of the Colorado it's probably for the best that Caesar's Legion exists since it created order out of an even more brutal mess.
If it was portrayed that Caesar either had to keep expanding to maintain this order then it would be a little more even handed. Like it was just due to a force of social development that the invasion is inevitable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J13lLFE6sPs
Woah nelly
>>339546036
>>no qt domme gf to punish me
There's the ghoul dominatrix and the fisting robot that you recruit for the casino in Freeside.
>Caesar wants to build a culture capable of surviving the wasteland
>in making this culture he assimilates and destroys 86 entirely post-war cultures
>cultures with so few ties to pre-War America they don't even speak English anymore
>because a synthesis of cherry picked American and bastardized Roman values is better in the long run than the tribes who already lived with the reality of the wasteland
>>339545459
>non-brain-damaged
So, Anyone but the courier?
these new Bethesda servers sure suck some major dick.
>>339547379
he discusses this with you
the tribes did very little other than primitively squabble with each other, he got them trained, united, and capable of actually accomplishing things
the endgame that he's going for arguably would be the best at surviving the wasteland
this game is amazing, it still fucking surprises me
>hour 400, only just discovered chosen one's wrecked car
>the road from nelson to novac is littered with recruit legion bodies thanks to manny and boone
>>339548181
He justifies himself by claiming he civilized them, it's not the same
Humanity does just fine as a large number of small, squabbling tribes. It's genetic. Just because Caesar found the tribal way of doing things to be distasteful doesn't make it a less valid way of doing things.
>>339546228
fucking beautiful
>>339548697
sure, it survives, but that's all
if survival alone is criteria we're using to judge things, they might as well be animals
>>339548973
So having their own culture, with its own art, music, oral tradition, morals and values means nothing if they're not striving to build a nation
That's bullshit and exactly why Caesar is a cunt. Neither NCR nor the Legion is better than any other wasteland society just because they're obsessed with recreating the old world.
>>339546228
how in the fuck
>>339539407
Plenty of shit entered the ecosystems of the US that around cats' weight class, thus kind of fucking them over. Dogs live and hunt in packs, giving them a better chance against the post-nuclear bullshit.
Family cats already get picked off by hawks and shit, imagine being a cat with Cazadores around. Cats are already too curious for their own good; one swipe at a cazador, one attempt at picking off a baby Mole Rat (alerting the goddamned nest), and the kitty is dead.
It also could have been disease, radiation poisoning (cats already get leukemia pretty often), among other things.
Also, dogs would have been better preserved by people than cats. Cats were domesticated by hanging around humans, picking off rodents, and purring. Dogs are of direct utility as guards, bird dogs, scent dogs, and even livestock in the event of a survival catastrophe.
GIRLS
GIRLS
WATCH OUT
WATCH OUT
>>339549458
a nation can accomplish things, a mass of squabbling tribes can't
caesar makes it pretty clear he doesn't see anything meaningful to be gained from their cultures
as far as he's concerned, the only culture that the world needs is the one he's creating
>exploring a cave by yourself
>kinda tired, spent the last week in the desert scrounging for caps
>come across this
>corpse is still warm
>no one is around
>looted some pre-war condoms from a shack the previous day
>what do?
>>339550360
That's Redesigned 2/3?
I don't want to leave the kongou
>>339547379
I'm not seeing the problem
>>339546228
Who's the savages now? Boom!
>>339550371
>Corpse is still warm
>look around for whatever killed her.
>than fuck her
>>339550964
fapfapfap
>>339546228
how the fuck the gamebryo engine is moving that
what kind of magic is this what the fuck
>>339546228
what inspires someone to make this
>>339550639
At least post the NCR Ranger Mutsuki.
>>339550360
>accomplish things
Like what? Build roads, dig wells, fund public schooling? Form corrupt democracies or cults of personality? Annex or enslave independent populations for the greater good? Find other nations and fight long, pointless wars over ideology? Build bombs to end the world?
What is it about nations that's so great it must be forced on people rather than letting them rebuild it naturally, in their own time, like we did back in the dawn of civilization?
>>339550964
I'd fuck the thing that killed her desu
>>339551143
Calm down, it's just an invisible NPC wearing a hat.
>>339550360
What mods for that appearance? Aside from the enb
>>339551759
it worked for the metro thing so I kinda believe it
>>339551915
Looks like FCO.
>>339551984
Metrokun was such a qt
>>339548181
Caesar's whole purpose as a character is to convince you that he is good for the wasteland, and you actually fell for it. Good job, champ.
Who else here understands the simple fact that the Followers of the Apocalypse are the one and only truly "good" faction in the game?
>>339551143
My guess is that the flight patterns are pre-determined, similar to riding the Dovah in Skyrim.
>>339552267
>post-apocalyptic wasteland
>not beyond good and evil
))))))
>>339545619
That has to do with the cut content
the legion was supposed to have much more quests but due to time constrains they had to decide which bigger faction would have more content and went with NCR
>yfw the first time this happened
I was playing at night and was getting comfy
>>339552449
NCR is the most bland of the three big ones, really can't understand why they went with the faction that needs the least content to be properly understood.
>>339551412
Our most important cultural developments did not stem from tribes clashing with one another, but with organized states going to war. Caesar knew other, national cultures existed, and he rejected them. He saw the tribals and their conquest as a chance to build what he considered a "better" culture, and he took it. He intends to refine that culture through war.
>>339552449
The issue was that the extra Legion content required them to make a new area and new towns east of the Colorado
The NCR got the lions share of the quests because NCR's questgivers were situated entirely within the confines of the map they had built
>>339552401
Doesn't look it to me. The way he searches for and lines up shots on moving Deathclaws makes it hard for me to believe it's a predetermined route.
>>339552603
This always bothered me too why spend so much time on a faction that has it's real world equivalents still kicking.
>>339551412
that "building naturally" leads straight to all the things you're talking about.
caesar sees the legion as a way to build something better, that otherwise couldn't have formed naturally
>>339551915
NMC, Character overhaul, RW, interior lighting overhaul, and Onix ENB are the graphics ones that I can remember
>>339552131
I disagree with the guy, but I can understand where he's coming from, and think that anon was arguing against him for the wrong reasons
I consider the best endings to be independent vegas and house
>>339552689
They could've developed the existing legion locations. Add more civilians and highlight the social interactions within Legion territory(like that merchant that you can question at the entrance of Caesar's base).
>>339552958
Maybe to have bigger appeal to masses
Most people outside of here probably went with NCR because it was easier to understand
>>339546228
Dem negative Gs tho
>>339553171
see
>>339553138
They seem to have approached it as an all or nothing thing in late development.
>>339552958
for what it's worth, the NCR is the biggest and most dominant faction in the wasteland, who have a massive influence on things no matter who you side with.
house mainly deals with vegas, legion are mostly on their side of the river, but the NCR are everywhere
>>339553583
Yes, but that is a part of lore that can be explained in dialogue, doesn't mean that you have to give preferential treatment to it in 'screen time'.
>>339553583
I like the Rangers and the grunts have a kind of Vietnam War feel to them, what the low morale and poor logistics also the Service Rifle
>>339553737
>don't show, tell
>>339553835
Yeah, the whole sort of attrition war thing going on with the Legion bleeding the NCR gives a great feel aswell. Only thing I wish there was is that there'd be more NCR and Legion patrols coming into skirmishes with eachother out in the wastes.
>>339552958
probably because the NCR is one of the biggest things from Fallout 1/2, and Obsidian was making a true sequel to those versus Betheda's fucking abortion of a game.
However I do agree they're pretty bland.
>>339552668
>>339552973
Here's the thing: The great nation state that Caesar wants to build? The culture that will not only survive the wasteland, but thrive in it? It's not the Legion.
He has spent decades absorbing tribes, eradicating cultures, enslaving and killing people to create one half of what he considers to be the ideal wasteland nation. The other half is NCR.
Until he conquers NCR, and it's incredibly unlikely he will, all he's done is create one large raider tribe that follows his cult of personality, not his ideology or philosophy, one that wont long survive his death.
The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
>>339553737
well, it's also the case that while the other factions are fairly monolithic - house is house and the legion is an extension of caesar, the NCR is a fractured and messy bureaucracy, made of many sub-factions, all with their own issues and conflicts
>>339554016
Pretty sure there are mods for that. That sort of thing probably didn't make it in due to console limitations.Consoles ruined so much of the game that wasn't already hampered by using Gamebryo
>>339554094
So, what you're saying is that Caesar hates the NCR because they have what he strives for, and he thinks that by destroying them he can take it from them?
FUCK YOU /V/, MADE ME REINSTALL THIS SHIT
>>339554094
well yeah, he's using the legion as a foundation for the new society, and to take things to the next level, he needs the mojave
I wouldn't say it's incredibly unlikely, either, he's got spies, a solid military, and understands the weaknesses of the NCR. He's certainly still at a disadvantage,compared to them, but I don't think a victory for him is implausible.
for what it's worth, the natural evolution you're talking about would basically lead to something like the NCR anyway
>>339554443
Outside forces don't control you anon.
In your heart, you wanted this all along.Now buy the new game you cow-rustlin sunuvagun.
>>339553897
Gameworld =/= Setting. As a RPG with branching paths and what not, underdeveloping one of the major factions is a major flaw.
The world map of New Vegas is a shrinked version of the geographic areal present in the lore in which locations are picked based on relevance to plot and gameplay.
You can make an equal number of faction specific locations and show the primacy of the NCR through other means(IG politics, more NCR than Legion patrols, dialogue etc). "Show, don't tell" only applies if you use characters as information dumps instead of their natural interactions shaping the lore, such as in the case of that merchant in Legion territory.
>>339554426
No, Caesar built his Legion as the opposite of the NCR on a flawed understanding of Hegelian thought.
>thesis
NCR
>antithesis
Caesar's Legion
>synthesis
The melding of the values and outlook of the two societies once NCR territory is conquered by the Legion.
post more slutty deathclaws
>>339554094
There is no guarantee those tribes would've evolved naturally, or in the way that Caesar wanted them to, before the NCR swept in and annexed/assimilated him. They are not evolving in a vacuum. It's not "incredibly unlikely" at all that Caesar won't conquer the NCR if you run a successful Legion playthrough. He desires New Vegas because it provides an iconic city and the makings of a less militaristic culture to build an empire off of.
>>339538340
and people say that fallout 4 doesn't give you choices.
Am i one of the few that kind of misses the old style armor sets, maybe its just bethesdas poor art designers but none of the armor pieces go well together in fallout 4 most armor especially heavy look like complete shit to me
>>339538340
>>339538667I actually want to know what mod it is too.
>>339554094
These "cultures" have no reason to exist, they might as well just be street gangs. They're founded on ignorance and superstition and to call them savage is giving them too much credit.
>The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
It totally wouldn't. 200 years ago their ancestors were civilized people with knowledge of science and history. Isolation has just degraded them into being the petty warmongers you claim Caesar is
>>339555078
Making them modular will DEFINITELY mess with their design.
But no, Modular armor is the way to go.
I only wish they'd put more effort in & made it dynamic.
>>339554094
>The natural evolution of a wasteland society out of a bunch of backward tribals would take longer but be so much better for everyone in the grand scheme of things.
>>339555221
I guess its just bethesdas lack of skill also fuck DR
>>339555214
>They're founded on ignorance and superstition
Uh, and the Legion isn't? Caesar literally keeps them retarded on purpose so they're easier to control.
>>339554270
Only one I've found is WARZONES but it doesn't scratch that itch very well.
>>339543538
>forgetting our dark knights, the cats, who safeguarded our agriculture for millennia
>>339555701
Reminder,
>>339540850
>>339555452
not really
it's more that he doesn't want an army that's dependent on technology, he sees a strong spirit and tenacity as being more important, which are what the legion's culture is designed around building.
it's not so much around making them easy to control as it is about making them more effective
>>339554949
>>339554683
It's very unlikely. Do you know why NCR is in a position to lose the Second Battle of Hoover Dam despite having the numbers and elites to effectively march across the Colorado and take the fight to Caesar?
Because the NCR's army is run by an idiot. A man who deliberately sets things up so he can play gloryhound and beat the Legion assault in a meatgrinder, his troopers versus the Legion's best. Because he's a traditional soldier and offended that elite Rangers got all the credit for winning the First Battle of Hoover Dam. A man so incompetent he can't even defend the Dam properly in the final battle.
Whatever the Legion makes up for in Frumentarii and sheer brutality, they lose out by being tactically inflexible and far too reliant on their chain of command to keep a battle going. In a proper war fought by competent people it wouldn't even be a fair fight.
>>339554745
Reducing the amount of content for the NCR isn't the solution, especially when they're the most appealing and relatable faction regardless of the content disparity.
>>339555857
>>339555214
>These "cultures" have no reason to exist
No culture has a "reason" to exist beyond ensuring the survival of the people within it
>>339533385
I allied with house for the sole reason that though he was a bit of an arrogant prick, he was good to me and I wanted to repay him with my loyalty.
Caesar doesn't give a shit about you, nobody in the NCR gives a shit about you, Yes Man is an unfeeling machine, but House genuinely wants and needs your trust and support.
It was way more rewarding working for him than anyone else.
>>339555918
>regardless of the content disparity
That's exactly the point. They are the easiest to understand and identify with, ergo content for the NCR is the least important.
>>339556030
>ensuring the survival of the people within it
Which the Legion culture does better and at a higher quality of life.
>>339555861
and caesar understands this, and sees it as his opportunity
were the NCR run by someone actually competent, he'd probably play a far more passive game
>>339556053
>he didn't get his rewarding feels from the ending slides
>instead relied on a raisin in a tube
>>339555857
And the part where he declared himself the Son of Mars and divinely appointed ruler of the Legion who was gifted Latin and Roman military structure by a bolt from the blue?
That part was to keep them ignorant and docile
>>339556053
if you like house so much why don't you marry him!
>>339538340
The fuck? this isn't amod is it? just edited pic?
>>339556072
That's not how developers prioritize things. The content that most will experience will receive the most polish and focus. More players will be drawn to the NCR than they will the Legion. Thus, the NCR has more content. There are still Legion options for almost every NCR-related quest, however. Helios One, Forlorn Hope, Camp McCarran, the Strip, etc. all receive Legion content. The Legion just has fewer civilian locations because there's no reason for them to establish towns in what is, for them, a hotly contested warzone.
>>339556316
well hey, it's easier than trying to explain his ideologies to every last one of them
>>339555452
Which is fine, because they needed to be controlled. Even if Caesar dies and the Legion evaporates the wasteland is still a better place by assimilation of the cancerous and arbitrarily divided tribes.
The NCR is doing the wasteland a disservice by allowing the Great Khans to exist, their proud 'culture' is literally that of bandits that rape and pillage and then pull out 'muh bitter springs' when they get a taste of their own medicine
>>339556182
Legion culture is objectively shit for everyone who is actually part of the Legion.
Sure, the common man left behind after the Legion has come through and taken its tithe of human bodies is pretty well off but for the men and women that comprise the Legion itself? Not so comfortable. The men are expendable cannon fodder, the women breeding machines and menial labourers.
>>339551143Gamebryo isn't actually a bad engine and Creation is a much better engine than it, if someone really puts their mind to it they can figure out how to do things Bethesda hasn't tried yet
>Mod Organizer won't let me install mods
FML
>>339555861
>In a proper war fought by competent people it wouldn't even be a fair fight.
And if the Legion wins the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the NCR won't have any of that. Their military would have been broken, their presidents and generals disgraced, their economy tanked, and their will broken. The NCR itself might fracture, which would do nothing but benefit Caesar when he presents himself as a beacon of order, stability, and spartan equality. He gets his civilization all the same.
>>339546228
>it would probably be easier to make this plane in an actual post-apocalyptic wasteland than to make it like this in the Gamebyro engine
>>339556573
is that any different to life in a tribe?
I'd argue that it's still better, the men have respect, a shared identity, and a cause to believe in, while the women are still far less likely to be raped, captured or killed than they would be in a tribe
>>339556559
When the Legion fractures, it's going to leave behind nothing but well trained raiders and slavers
So instead of a bunch of tribals who squabble and play at war there will be a bunch of tribals crucifying each other and burning down towns until nothing of Arizona is worth living in
>>339556952
>women are still far less likely to be raped
m8 they are literally used as breeding sows in the Legion, consent or not
>>339556998
Have you seen Utah? Tribal territory is not worth living in. All Caesar has done to Arizona is dissolve all the pointless "cultural" barriers, if anything a post-Legion wasteland is bound to be more peaceful based on the reduced language barriers alone.
>>339556182
>Which the Legion culture does
Is that before or after they exterminate the sick crippled and elderly, and crucify any who resist?
>>339556998
the collapse of the roman empire was hardly the end of europe
there'd still be remnants of the legion culture, language, and ideals for people to gather around, it'd probably still be far more developed and stable than a tribal wasteland
>>339556316
That's called religious tradition, anon. Most
>>339556429
Mate, it's not a matter of the number of locations that I have a problem with, but with the lack of the proper fleshing out of the nature of Caesar's Legion. Sawyer himself admitted that the finished product portrayed them not only in a very simplistic manner, but also contradicted the lore by implication.
>>339556573
Certainly superior to tribal culture. Would you prefer to be part of a community of fiends over being part of the Legion?
>The men are expendable cannon fodder, the women breeding machines and menial labourers.
I could make a cynical caricature of NCR or Strip culture just as easily. What you don't understand is that culture does not have inherent worth, each society evolves its own culture as a way to subconsciously justify and perpetuate the system.
>>339556772
NCR has a larger, better army than the Legion does. A large portion of it is still stationed in California, holding the borders and keeping the peace. Most of the Legion is sitting across the river waiting to invade.
When NCR retreats, it shortens its supply lines and removes the blood sucking leech that was the Mojave from its economy. The opposite is true for the Legion. What they lose in supplies and manpower is made up for by returning to the borders they can already protect.
>>339556313
>better a raisin in a tube than a fruit in a toga.
>>339533315
>>339533385
I know I'm just going to get responses about how much fallout 4 blows (i agree nv is much better), but does anyone have a rundown of the fallout 4 factions?
>>339557418
Most civilizations(and societies in general) in human history have been religious in nature*
>>339557389
That's a net positive from an utilitarian perspective.
>>339555937
So this is how most encounters play out?
>>339557516
All the factions are all similar shades of gray so i can't see anyone being overly interested in making one
>>339557418
>I could make a cynical caricature of NCR or Strip culture just as easily
You could but that is the literal truth of the Legion. It's an army of slaves.
>>339556952
Life expectancy as a legionary is so low that being one for a decade is an accomplishment.
The Legion fucking sucks.
>>339557516
>institute
makes sentient robots and uses them to do menial tasks, why they felt the robots needed sentience to do menial tasks is anyone's guess
also they introduced FEV to the commonwealth, killed the commonwealth's attempt at a goverment and replace people with robot spies for reasons that aren't really made clear
they do have the best technology though
>BoS
hate synths and ghouls, but ultimately want to make the wasteland a safer and more stable place, in exchange for taking most of the resources
>Railroad
want to protect synths, that's about it
they don't do much if anything for the wasteland as a whole
>minutemen
boring democracy faction who make you do all their work
you can't piss them off
Post Couriers
>>339558079
HAT TOO BIG
>>339557516
Well, there's the faction Bethesda wants you to join, the minutemen which make you go out and ask farmers if they want help.
There's the Brotherhood of Steel which makes you fight the Institute.
There's the Institude which makes you fight the Brotherhood of Steel.
And honestly I can't remember any others.
>>339557417
The Roman Empire also had more going for it than following the will of Caesar to an early grave
It also had more in the way of peaceable relations with its neighbours, self sufficiency and not living in a nuclear wasteland
>>339557540
>utilitarian perspective
Utilitarians are edgy.
>>339557463
>NCR has a better army than the Legion does.
No, they don't. Their army receives poorer training, has worse morale, and is, in general, not nearly as effective as the Legion. Everyone in the game says this, on both sides of the aisle. The NCR proper is far more susceptible to war-weariness than the Legion and, in the event of a Legion victory, the Rangers have been marginalized and trust in leaders, civil and military, has been shattered.
The NCR was already grappling with a stagnant economy prior to arriving in the Mojave. Their current population is unsustainable, and their government has become increasingly rife with corruption. There is growing tension between the ruling elite and the lower classes. Total defeat in the Mojave would only serve to exacerbate many of these issues as refugees pour into the nation and whatever economic prospects they had established in Vegas collapse.
>>339557992
And the NCR is an example of Marxist class struggle in which a corrupt elite exploits a barbarized population of hedonistic animals.
Also,
>army of slaves
Because of circumstance, they need Vegas in order to settle and form a civilian state.
>>339558438
I'm not an utilitarist, but from a sociological/histroical p.o.v. one cannot examine societies from a moral perspective without being subjective.
Who /Energy Weapons/ here?
Seriously, i just can't use any other type of weapon anymore.
>>339557324
The Legion is structured around a very strict, inflexible military hierarchy. All it would take is one asshole Centurion deciding he's going to be the new Caesar for it to start all over again because the soldiers underneath him know no other way to live.
>>339558438
>Utilitarians are edgy
of course they are. the more edges, the faster you can spindash into a group of people to exterminate anyone too sick or elderly to get out of the way!
>>339558646
Even using bulk ammo the Laser RCW still shreds people
>>339558646
>ever putting the scope on it
Why would you defile it in such a way
>>339558602
>[you can't be unbiased when you look at a society's morals]
....and?
Did you mean to say *objective*?
As in >[don't worry about the edge, just look at it objectively]?
>>339558956
perfect scout weapon then
>>339558602
>Because of circumstance
No, because of design. As I've said before, the Legion is only one half of Caesar's ideal society. If he hadn't set out from the start to conquer NCR, he wouldn't "need" the Mojave. He could have focused on remaking Arizona instead
>>339559146
Is this captain vidya?
>>339559146
pretty faggy hat tbqh fampai
What's a piece of armor that
>is in the vanilla game
>can be acquired fairly early on
>is unique or at least not used by any major NPCs
>has decent defense
>>339559289
I wasn't even thinking about it while making him. I'm missing the beard though.
>>339558646
I couldn't hear you over my BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
>>339559361
space suit
>>339559074
>did you mean to say *objective*?
>"without being subjective"
No, anon, a negation implies it's about the antonym of the term which, you've guessed it, is objectivity.
>As in >[don't worry about the edge, just look at it objectively]?
There is no such thing as edge in culture if you are being a moral relativist.
>>339559280
see my post
>>339554745
anyhow, is of tired /v/, so happy wanderin'
>>339559360
only using it right now for that extra DT and it's the only one I can find that has a flashlight, thermal, and night vision for PN.
>>339559417
I LOVE KITCHEN GUN
Reminder that the Legion is a literal cult of personality built around a sickly old man and that when he dies nobody will have the support to lead it.
Enjoy your warring tribes and no medicine, faggots.
>>339558558
The NCR's actual army in the core region would stomp the region
The only reason there's a conflict in NV is because they're stretched so thin in the mojave
>>339559361
Metal armor boi
>>339559460
>lashlight, thermal, and night vision
You kids and your gubbins
A bottle of Ghost Sight no good anymore?
>>339559719
I ain't done Dead Money yet
>>339559361
Armored Vault 21 Jumpsuit from JSawyer
>>339559771
Break into Elijah's room at the bunker, free Cloud Sample every day
>>339559610
There's no evidence for this whatsoever.
>>339558079
Shit I guess I'll spam him from the last thread.
Post'm
The most Default player-character ever-
>Name
Courier, (going with the amnesiac crap)
>Description
Aloof 30-something Neutral-good amnesiac cowboy with a drinking problem. Typical heroic 'stand-up-for-yourself' crap. Likes killing, especially assholes who deserve it, & is a (non-sneering) imperialist. Before his head trauma he was a neutral-evil smuggler, spent most of his time with raiders and used that to transit safely through typically-unfriendly territory. But that's just forMUH SPECIAL AMNESIAC SNOWFLAKE BACKGROUND& to mesh with the in-game dialogue options.
>Faction
Boomers are his bros, owed one to House but ultimately sided with the NCR. Only so much he was willing to do for the man, and he wasn't going to stick around in New Vegas so independence was off the table.
>Signature Weapon
That Gun/Thump Thump/Maria+Silencer are the signatures.
>SongBlue Moon
>Fuck you I'm adding Follower
Cass, bitch
>>339560024
The Divide completely cut-off the Armor and airforce division of the NCR armies and given that the Mojave is a wide open desert that's terrible for infantry, it's like spearmens vs a Helicopter in Civ all over again.
>>339559834
>wearing vault-suits
>as a non-vault-dweller
>>339560453
>not wanting +1 LCK for 2000 caps
Lucky Combat Armour is like 8000
>>339560024
except that all of fucking california is under NCR control
clearing the entire state took manpower
>>339559438
This anon has some good words.
>see this thread
>decide I want to play NV again
>remember my PC is a piece of shit
real screenshot
>>339560396
The NCR airforce consists of a handful of vertibirds and we know very, very little about their armored division. That doesn't mitigate any of the other problems I've listed regarding morale, leadership, troop training, etc.
>>339560024
Hanlon makes several mentions to the NCR Senate keeping funds and support tied up in California. The Senate is partly run by the Brahmin Barons, who refuse to have their ranches go undefended to supply troops for the Mojave. He directly mentions that the Heavy Troopers, the best of the mainline army, are stuck doing just that, standing around keeping petty thieves away from cows.
>We're stretched thin and the Long 15 just keeps getting longer. Slow to get supplies. Slower to get reinforcements.
>NCR's senate has got funds tied up at the Boneyard and President Kimball ordered our most experienced rangers to chase ghosts down in Baja.
They could be doing better than they are but Kimball has to deal with politics and an entire nation's needs.
>>339560612
Yeah, and the NCR didn't do it alone. They certainly didn't face any opposition on par with the Legion by themselves in the process.
>>339560737
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45475/?
>>339560954
they wiped out any and all raiders in the region
since then all they've had to do is multiply
>>339560880
And deep divisions have been sown between the Rangers and the Army in the event of a Legion victory. The Heavy Troopers and Veteran Rangers do indeed start rolling out as the battle nears, in any case.
Any thoughts on Wasteland 2 DC? Just reached California and I really like the world building. Too bad their engines so limited, feels like all the different locations is suffering from the theme park syndrome of FO3 abiet logical themeparks since they can't make a working faction system
>>339545496
>that is basically exactly what Yoshii did
What was his objective anyway? Why does he want to fuck shit up so badly? The old world is dead and gone.
>>339561045
The Vault Dweller and Chosen One defeated the Khans both times around. The BoS wiped out the Vipers.
>>339560880
just realized
are these "ghosts" Enclave remnants?
>>339538667
>>339540337
>>339554952
>>339555090
>>339556415
It's like New Vegas Breeder or some stupid /d/-tier name.
>>339561360
Nope, they are Legion spies causing a ruckus but I'm not sure who said it, probably Vulpes or Ulysses
>>339535924
Wish they had left it in, but put in a bunch of alternate endings instead of having the credits roll.
>The Courier, having killed everyone in the Mojave, ventured West to take on the NCR, hoping to wipe out the entire country and then turn around to face Caesar in a scorched earth campaign.
or
The Courier, having...
>Killed his killer
>Robbed Vegas Blind
>Dethroned House
>Exposed all of Caesar's spies and killed Caesar
>Created an army of war-bots
>Nuked Caesar's HQ
>Became a cyborg
decided to leave New Vegas, just when the wasteland needed him most.
He was never seen again.
>>339561846
>bethesda had the decency to at least include playing your game past the end as DLC
>obsidian never cared enough to do that
>>339543894
Just survived the chamber
The game is being reinstalled right now.
God bless, fellow couriers.
>>339562175
>being dumb
They were planning to do it but they didn't have enough time to ever do it justice. Unlike Fallout 3, things actually change after the end of the game.
https://tcrf.net/Fallout:_New_Vegas/Unused_Dialog#Post-Endgame_References
>>339543894
I looked at it and said "This is a trap"
Then as I saw the chair I said "Is this an instant kill trap or a slow and deliberate trap?"
The I looked at the walls and said "Oh, there's enemies behind here I bet"
My characters are all OP so I knew that I would have no problem killing whatever was hiding in there.
>>339562462
Instead we got DLC like DUDE VENTURE BROS LMAO, Chris Avellone's Ulysses Wankfest and Nothing Worthwhile but 1911s and Joshua Graham.Ded Mone was ok I guess.
>>339562462
>th-they could do it justice!
That's not an excuse for making such a massive and easily fixed mistake
So instead of at the very least a functional game, we have a game where the game cannot be complete if you want to keep playing and the factions barely matter aside from story
>>339533347
what the fuck are you bitching about retard?
>>339562885
>7mb
>>339562841
I guess some of us just don't give a shit about playing beyond the stated end of the game for no other reason than to keep playing
>>339562616
>disliking new vegas' DLCs
disgusting pleb
>>339563019
vat?
>>339563056
>fetch quests are ok when Obsidian do them
>linear environments are ok when Obsidian does them
>bad writing is ok when Obsidian does it
How about you dickride a company with a better success rate than 40%.
>>339562841
>being this butthurt that the game ends at the end of the game's story
it's an RPG, not Bethesda's whacky themepark. It has a defined ending that has been built up since the first person you talk to about the Legion and NCR in Goodsprings. They even gave you a prompt before the final battle telling you it was the end so you could wrap up what you wanted.
Roll a new character if you can'tlet gothat badly
>>339556053
I just can't forgive how he fucked over the Kings
>>339563282
>he didn't encourage the Kings to go to war with NCR, leading House to spare them
>>339556053
>Yes Man is an unfeeling machine
You're not working for Yes Man. Yes Man is working for you.
>>339563212
the most fetch questy DLC is Honest Hearts, which gets shit on for exactly that on here for the most part. All the DLCs are well written with the arguable exception of Lonesome Road, which is still passable, but just gets too far up its own asshole.
OWB and HH are not linear. DM is somewhat linear but more in the sense that the worldspace is confined, and they did that delibrately with a purpose to create and atmosphere of claustrophobia, so yes, it's okay because it works.
Similarly, LR is linear because the narrative is that of you going down your final road to your final enemy at the end of everything before the battle that decides your entire game, and the road is meant to test your skills you've built up the entire game. So it's passable here too.
They aren't linear because "LOL obsidian is shit at worldbuilding they can only make linear garbage!" They're linear for a purpose, and they serve that purpose.
>inb4 >it's bad on purpose!
>>339563334
>>339563282
>was planning on going House
>went NCR + Kings truce because there was no reason for that cunt Pacer to ruin everything for no reason
>find out accidentally that House massacres the Kings if you do this
>realize House is a petty cunt too
>kill him with a gold club
>>339563526
>the lonesome road
hey you like deathclaws? lots and lots of deathclaws? cause we have all the deathclaws you could ever want
>>339563037
It's a shame, I know.
>>339563225
>already namecalling
>trying to use bethesda as a scapegoat
>"They even gave you a prompt before the final battle so that means you're not allowed to complain!"
>spewing memes
yeah, fuck off
None of that makes the problem go away, everyone is still eternally acting like the world is about to end and there's no way to make it stop other than to start a new character.
It doesn't have to be a "whacky themepark" to be a functional game, at the very least all they had to do was place you outside of hoover dam after the end and set everything back to normal like the end didn't even happen, there are plenty of games that let you do this.
But no, this is an Obsidian game, the player comes second to their laziness.
>>339563526
>the most fetch questy DLC is Honest Hearts
OWB is literally "Go get us a bunch of shit, also there's some fun loot around so you don't realize you're literally being a courier now."
>>339563640
>for no reason
The Kings were one of the tribes that lived in and around the Strip when House showed up and bullied everyone who wasn't the Three Families into leaving
Pacer just sees NCR and its squatters as a different kind of Strip situation. People moving in, coming to take land that doesn't belong to them. Only difference is, the Kings can fight back against NCR in a way they couldn't with the Secruitrons.
>>339563197
If the file size reaches 7mb+ it lags like a bitch making it unplayable
>lonesome road adds cutscenes after all the DLCs about how "word is going around about the "final battle" between the couriers"
There is absolutely ZERO fucking reason AT ALL for ANYONE to know or even care enough to tell other people about it, it's LITERALLY a plot hole put in the game because Obsidian wanted it to be "epik"
>>339563816
it wasn't laziness, they decided against it deliberately because it doesn't make sense
literally the entire game hypes up Hoover Dam as the Courier's FINAL TEST. His big show. After the Dam the Courier's story is pretty much finished besides he might go back to Big MT years later
It is a functional game, you're just angry because you disagree with a design choice the developers made. That doesn't mean they were lazy. If anything, the game is a showcase of how much Obsidian does care about creating a consistent and believable world in their game.
>>339564010
7 megabytes or 7 megabits? this is very important
OP turned and ran with his tail between his legs cause he got called out
>>339564156
>literally the entire game hypes up Hoover Dam as the Courier's FINAL TEST. His big show.
They could even even do that shit right, the courier does barely anything at hoover dam, in fact one of the most important people there you can literally just tell them to leave and they do it, so why tell the player to go fuck themselves other than laziness?
It is NOT a functional game, it is a VERY incomplete game, and this is one of the many cases where Obsidian has absolutely no excuse for being lazy.
I dare you to give me an explanation as to why it "doesn't make sense" for the battle of hoover dam to have never happened in a game where you can literally just not do it
>>339564814
> the courier does barely anything at hoover dam, in fact one of the most important people there you can literally just tell them to leave and they do it
oh, so you barely played the game. Good to know.
>>339564953
>tell you exactly how it plays out
>try to claim I've barely played the game
not how it works
>>339564814
>I dare you to give me an explanation as to why it "doesn't make sense" for the battle of hoover dam to have never happened in a game where you can literally just not do it
What the fuck are you trying to say? First you're angry that you can't play past the final battle, and now you're saying it's dumb to say it doesn't make sense to progress past the final culminating battle of the game because you can just not do the final battle in game. No shit you can just ignore the final battle in game--you could go around doing all the sidequests and let your character idle for ingame days at a time--but don't expect to finish the game if you don't do the final mission. If you want to finish the game, you do need to do the mission that finishes the game.
>true wasteland economy
>uses scripts, get a thing where every time I talk to a merchant, game freezes for a good 2-3 seconds before I can barter with them
>also all ammo costs the same per bullet
>whatever, play like 50 hours like this
>start getting fed up
>all I had to do was get the newest versions of Jiip and Lupita's plugins
all that time...
>>339533385
>Yippee-yay there'll be no wedding bells, for today
House is the only viable choice, only because he's like immortal.
>>339565508
How masochistic are you and why haven't you been in BDSM porn yet
>>339565763
>House is the only viable choice, only because he's like immortal.
He wasn't immortal when I clubbed his fucking head in with a pipe and ate him.
>>339560880
>>339561045
something to consider is the NCR military being spread across the entire state, if the legion wins hoover dam and stays as a single large army the NCR would have to pull all its forces back to fight it. The legion could then avoid another large scale conflict and just raid the undefended NCR lands instead.
The internal politics and manipulation by frumentarii would then finish the NCR. Brahmin Barons would likely supply the legion rather than have their lands razed and all their influance destroyed, and the hungy populace would rather side with the legion than be forced into conscription to fight against it
>>339533385
I always end up doing a yes man run. I just cant stand the other factions.
>>339565763
>House is the only viable choice, only because he's like immortal.
I don't know, anon, but the fact that he's immortal is what made me not side with him
http://www.rpg-gaming.com/fnv.html
Post them builds, /v/
>>339563415
Keep telling yourself that, meatbag.
The Yes Man ending is so ominous and creepy that it's sure that the courier got fucked over.
>>339567554
>it's sure the Courier got fucked over
>developer literally comes out and says the opposite
>"LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
>>339567554
>ominous and creepy
>hey I'm gonna download these programs so I can only listen to you, hope your okay with that!
>>339567750
>developer so incompetent they need to contradict their own game
>>339567554
Yes Man would not fucking mess with the Courier. We're talking about someone who in canon walked out of The Divide with all of the abominations in it backing away out of fear. Even if he was stupid enough to try, the Courier would wreck his shit.
>>339567861
It's never stated in the game that he'll actually betray you, your just making assumptions based on shit you interpreted differently
Any mods that change your character's idle pose and running animations? The game just makes your dude feel unnatural and stupid.
>>339568613
Yes
>>339567985
Keep ignoring the writing on the wall.
Yes Man told you to your FACE that he reprogrammed himself so that he doesn't have to listen to you anymore, and then went off to rule New Vegas without giving a shit about what you think. Everything he tells you about you having the *real* authority is just placation for retards.
And dopes like you are just like "Durr, awesome! I rule New Vegas!"
>>339569007
This.
But I guess if there's not a 1500 word long dialogue branch about it it's not canon.
>>339569007
>In this moment, I am enlightened
>>339569007
Do you really think this cutie would betray you?
>>339569192
I mean, it's not straight up said that you've been betrayed like a total fool, but it's implied so fucking heavily that I get kinda frustrated when it flies completely over the heads of autists that can't understand something unless it's literally spelled out for them.
Like this fag >>339569407
Already shitting his pants in denial because it's dawning on him that he has to make a choice between accepting that he's a moron or digging his feet in and shitposting.
Every time I bring this shit up it happens, which is why I'm being a cunt about this.
Just have to hope that once the dipshit tires himself out and wakes up in the morning he'll actually have learned something about the fucking game.
>>339569007
>Cucked legioners keep on telling themselves this so they can sleep at night
>>339545959
T. Hawkeye
>>339569835
>trying to turn it into a Legion falseflag
Independent Vegasfags on suicide watch.
>>339569649
Sawyer himself has said you do not get fucked over by Yes Man.
>But I don't like it so it's not real
Tough.
>>339569968
Call me when it's somebody who wrote for the game.
>>339569649
kek
>>339569962
>Housefags so buttblasted that a good Courier can run the Mojave better than their Messiah so they invent lies to justify their shit choices
One thing I liked about F4 was the slowmo during vats
>>339569007
no he didn't
>>339570167
>Clearly I know more than the Lead Director of the game
>>339533354
>>339533463
>>339533550
christ this little fucker
>tfw you make your Courier and you find that it looks way too similar to another NPC
I once made a guy who looked exactly like Arcade
>there are people in this very fucking thread that don't realize the character named Yes Man will literally lie to your face
>>339570167
Are you retarded
Sawyer wrote Yes Man's dialogue
>>339569962
>Implying anyone but legion players are required to go through the mental gymnastics to justify their allegiance by glorifying their leader and demonizing everyone else
>>339570874
Yes Man was written by Gonzales
>>339571007
Don't bring facts to a denial fight.
>>339533756
Huh?
Who the hell did he voice in New Vegas?
Doctor Dala is cute! Cute!
>>339558079
I loved these glasses, one of my favorite "Clothing" mods for NV.
>>339533315
Posting this too because obligatory
>>339558079
ENCLAVE here, why isn't your video feed working?
>>339570653
Not even hard, just hit him with flare and nuke him. The damn dead trooper has a note on him that says this.
>>339571945
>not using pipboy 2500
>>339571778
Uh, I never thought about this, but which one is Dala? I mean I have to assume the Asian on the left as that is the most feminine of that group but that still fully resembles a man. Maybe he just became a chick after digitally transferring over
>>339572010
Yes, she's the one on the left. She has serious body image issues.
Left to right it's: Dala, 0, Borous, Klein, 8 and Mobius
>>339569649
>like this fag...already shitting his pants in denia...
Holy shit, you may or may not be right but you ROASTED that nigga
>>339567554
Word of God says the change in programming he did means that he only takes orders from Courier now instead of whatever random schmuck
>>339571813
Good taste.
I liked the orange ones though.
>>339571985
but if I use it I can't have pimpboy 3000
>>339571778
OWB had such a nice style to it
best background lore/radio station for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJbXsN7dlk
>>339572523
Aye, they looked more fiery. I tried making a Hank Wimbleton looking dude, hence the almost bald head.
Hopefully the modder will put them in FO4 some day, I could ask but I'de have to be extremely careful not to get banned for accidentally giving an opinion or a criticizing remark of the mod.I mean holy fucking shit its not like its mandatory to give a shit about opinions and criticism for fucks sake.
>>339571906
House have an int of 5, but 10 in luck
>>339573179
Is he like that, or is it just the community's becoming shit?
I've been barred from a mod page for (in a few more words) calling the guy a cunt, but that seems like a pretty justified case.
Has it gotten worse?To be fair, the guy literally just spent his days shitting on everyone in his mod's comments section & blowing a gasket about the faq 24/7.
What does /v/ think of the Small Frame Trait? Will I get completely fucked over in hardcore mode?
>>339573405
>in game stats
Silly. Going off of lore he created the world's largest robotics company in his 20s, calculated the probability of nuclear war down to within 15 years, and within that time managed to build Vegas's anti-nuclear defense system, interface his mind with his computer systems/robots, and create his multi-century hibernation chamber, all of which were obviously quite successful.
>>339573405
>The essence of champions flows through your veins. When you cannibalize corpses you temporarily gain Caesar's intelligence, Mr. House's luck, The King's charisma, and President Kimball's strength
Caesar has 4 INT, The King has 5 CHA and Kimball has 5 STR
>>339573559
Nexus has always been a hugbox but it's crazy bad now. I literally got banned from a guy's mods for giving constructive feedback (a suggestion on how to better integrate something) when his info page for the mod said "Feedback and constructive criticism welcome."
>>339573708
>calculated the probability of nuclear war down to within 15 years
He calculated it to the day and was only 20 hours out
Also he's a 261 year old virgin
>>339573708
>he did all of this himself
Don't believe his lies.
>>339573986
Really? I don't remember that and the wiki only has the 15 years info but you're probably right.
And that just proves his skill as a wizard.
>>339574129
Well evidently he had to have been at least able to interface his mind with his computers and create his chamber which gave him functional immortality, or at least elongated his life well beyond its natural limits. Either of those are pretty incredible feats in and of themselves so doing the rest on his own or at least heading them personally isn't too unbelievable.
>>339573697
Yeah, kind of, you want to stock on doctor bags, still after you get your limbs broken like 50 times you get a perk that makes your limbs harder to get criple, also in OWB you get other stuff that makes some limbs uncripable
>>339574140
>The Platinum Chip was printed in Sunnyvale, California on October 22nd, 2077 - the day before the Great War.
>It was to have been delivered by courier the following afternoon... but by then, the world had ended.
>>339574129
>Housefags actually believe come nigger from MIT can do all that
I'd maybe believe it if he went to Caltech.
>>339574283
All that means is the chip was ready the day before the bombs fell. If House was so smart the chip would have been in place before the first launch.
>>339574423
In the Fallout Universe, CIT = Tomorrowland
>>339546228
This reminds me of the flying vertibird mod. Was this built off of that?
>>339574423
If Caltech is anything like CalArts, they're probably working on the noodle-armed robot right now, complete with Spike Spiegel defacing programming.
>>339574423
>make incredibly accurate prediction regarding the end of the world
>off by a few hours
>but if he's so SMART why isn't he PERFECT
Every time
>>339533182
>tfw playing F:NV is like taking sleeping pills for me
There is just something about the wasteland and the music that makes it so boring.
This is sad because so far the story sounds promising
>>339574562
>Spike Spiegel defacing programming.
>>339574423
>WHY WASN'T HIS PREDICTION OF THE END OF THE WORLD BASED ON KNOWLEDGE HE HAD NO BUSINESS KNOWING DUE TO NOT BEING THE HEADS OF BOTH THE AMERICAN AND CHINESE MILITARY NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE DOWN TO THE SECOND
I'm an indyfag, but people not giving House credit for being a fucking genius mastermind is criminal. It's his whole character, and it's a really good character at that.
>>339574625
The beginning of the game is extremely slow, if you can force yourself to slog through it an hour or two and try to get a bit more engaged you'll likely end up getting into it much easier.
If you've already gotten to Vegas and still don't like it though it's probably not for you.
>>339574625
are you pete hines?
>I like what we’ve done with the dialogue system… and having played Fallout 3 again recently I keep, in Fallout 4 when I’m playing, I keep hitting the button to leave dialogue. I keep forgetting, ‘Oh, I can just walk away’. I don’t have to wait for this guy to stop talking’. And now I’m playing other stuff, where there’s dialogue and I’m thinking, ‘Oh, I wish I could just walk away’. Because I don’t have the attention span for long dialogue!
>>339574770
nah,the shooting and walking is boring,the actual talking requires some attention and is not retarded
>>339574830
you can just VATS the shooting and get the mod that adds sprinting if you don't like hiking
>>339574830
get RWD
you wont be bored if you have to not suck and actually prepare to not die all the time
>2015+1
>Still no Vash mod.
Why even live.
People seriously think New Vegas had good writing? lel
>>339562841
>we have a game where the game cannot be complete if you want to keep playing
seems to me like this anon has an issue withletting go
>>339575461
I can't believe I'm replying to this (You) hook but if you're genuine, tell me what you consider is good writing.
>>339560827
One Vertibird took out a shitload of Legion though, even just a few more would make their precious idea of 'no technology except for my closest toadies' redundant.
>>339575346
Vash was a faggot
>>339575943
>Hey what are these things? "Rocket Launchers" Do we need those?
>Not really. Oh, except to shoot down Vertibirds. But then they go back in the locker.
>>339575895
It's better than Bethesda's fallouts but it's not great by any means
>>339555090
>>339538667Sexout with a breeder submod.
>>339575346
Closest thing you can have :
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38554/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40382/?
>>339576147
I disagree. Characters like Caesar and House or even Gannon/Cassidy as well as the general political situation in the Mojave were really well done and clearly had effort put into them. I would say the mere fact that the game which is nearly 6 years old now still gets discussion threads on /v/ proves its impact as far as writing goes.
>>339576267
IF Caesar was intended to be a delusional and short-sighted fool he was brilliantly written. If he was means to be an effectual leader his writing is clown shoes.
>possibly terminally ill
>but I won't make any contingencies for my passing so it'll be all my advisors against one another until Lanius mad dogs his way across the whole of my empire killing everyone
>>339576267
The leigon was the low point of the writing
Ceasar was decent enough, but the leigon itself doesn't reflect his ideals.
If they'd have gotten more time to work on the game it would've been stellar. Even in one year they made a better game than Bethesda did in 5. (Fo4)
>>339576147
Then what do you consider "great"?
>>339576462
You're correct, I should say that the concept of Caesar was really interesting but due to Obsidian's time constraints with the Legion he really fell short of his potential. Still, he was a better character than could be found in 95% of FO3/FO4
>>339535903
i dont know why but this is just so CUTE!
>>339576776
Please do not moeize the Burned Man
>>339576721
I'm not sure that the Legion were intended to be more detailed - to me it really seems your choices were going to be NCR or House, maybe Indy, and they realized pretty late in the game that they needed a vastly different option.
There's just far too much "HURRDURR WE'RE EVIL SLAVER RAPIST COSPLAYERS" compared to the amount of positive stuff shown/told about the Legion territories.
>>339576062
>relying on guys who can only throw spears to be able to shoot a bazooka with any kind of accuracy.
>>339565858
>not using benny's gun
>>339577136
Nope, they fully intended on expanding them. Legion territories were meant to be the safest and most secure in the game as they knew how to keep their actual territories strong and safe and could consolidate their power, in contrast to the NCR who were bloated and failed to protect their territories. You have to remember the game was on an 18 month dev cycle, they had very little time to get everything in and it's surprising how much they did manage to fit.
>>339577136
josh sawyer(i think) said that most of the legion content had to be cut due to time, and they also came off a bit more misogynistic and evil and rapey than they were supposed to.
>>339577580
This is going to sound sick but, I was legit turned on by the ghoulette hookers.
>>339577685
Revolting
>>339577580
>they also came off a bit more misogynistic and evil and rapey than they were supposed to.
Yes, I too am surprised when people who act evil are perceived to be evil.
So is the Toughness Perk fucking useless or what
Last time I played New Vegas was when it came out. I haven't played it since. Now, after all these threads I want to paly it again and do the DLCs this time.
Are there any essential mods/patches/bugfixes I need, or is a normal vanilla installation good to go?
>>339533354
Flare gun bruh
>>339578305
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51664/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56625/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40329/?
>>339578305
If you like a mostly vanilla experience, I would at least get a texture overhaul, sprinting, and Project Nevada for increased difficulty/more combat options. If you want to further add to graphics ENBs are an obvious choice.
>>339578523
These too>>339578515
>>339576493
>Even in one year they made a better game than Bethesda did in 5. (Fo4)
To be fair, most of the assets were already made for them.
>>339578589
yes, it's pretty hard to make a game without assets
shame bethesda can't do both
>>339578589
This.
Asset creation on a small scale like I do is a fucking bitch and time consuming, the amount of man hours saved simply by having Fallout 3's resources given to them would have been massive.Before anyone asks I make the fancy 3d graphics that wow your normie colleagues, friends and parents in shitty phone/browser games.
>>339578698
>shame bethesda can't do both
They absolutely could, but they'd be on a far longer dev cycle and that would mean less profits for their Jewish overlords ZeniMax.
>>339571945
TRY THE GAIN
>If enemies had stats befitting their ingame descriptions
>House now has 1 STR, 2 PER, 1 EN, 4 CHA, 9 INT, 1 AG, 6 LUK
>Caesar has 6 STR, 6 PER, 3 EN, 10 CHA, 7 INT, 3 AG, 3 LUK
>Kimball has 8 STR, 6 PER, 7 EN, 7 CHA, 5 INT, 8 AG, 4 LUK
Is this accurate?
>>339563813
>the lonesome road
>lots of deathclaws
F-
Meet me after class to work on your bait.
>>339579325
I would put House at 10 INT desu, as that is how he is portrayed and what he's meant to come across as.
>>339567554
Word of god > Your headcanon based on nothing but a gut feeling
>>339579454
I didn't quite want to put him as "Omniscient" though. I mean, he's very smart, and benefits from 140 years' worth of solitary thinking time, but he doesn't know everything about everything- spending most of his life shut up in a chamber probably didn't expand, for example, his medical knowledge, repair knowledge, or knowledge of small arms.
>>339579594
Nigga thats like saying you don't want to give a guy 10 STR because he's not actually a demigod related to a mythical figure or 10 AGI because he can't actually walk on water
>>339579594
I mean the courier can be 10 INT and still not "omniscient". I would just say 10 INT means total genius tier which is what House is IMO
>>339579750
You get my point though, right? His expertise is limited to a specific set of fields (space travel, robotics, business and maybe a little medicine) based upon his close correlation to IRL Howard Hughes. He wouldn't have the time in his life to gain the wider expertise/intelligence that a 10 INT Courier possesses.
You're sort of convincing me though, so guess I might as well go with 10 INT, but then people will accuse me of falling for memes and handing out 10s willy nilly. Oh well.
>>339579984
>caring what others think about you
[INSECURITY INTENSIFIES]
>>339579984
He built RobCo from the ground up, a company that sold robots to the US Government. He would've had a working knowledge of ballistics, metallurgy, energy weapon design and artificial intelligence on top of his expertise in business and general robotics/programming.
That he seems to have computed all his predictions by himself suggests he has a solid grasp of advanced mathematics. He was undoubtedly involved in the creation of his hibernation chamber since he was going to be its sole occupant for god knows how many years, which would require some understanding of the technology and biology involved, lest he ever find himself up shit creek without a medical database to bail him out.
And he has a thing for predicting the futures of other people which probably means he was Pre-War America's greatest sociologist and a dab had at psychology
Who are the faggots in the game who are affected by Confirmed Bachelor?
>>339580881
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Confirmed_Bachelor
>>339580927
>"In Old World Blues, the Courier can attempt to hit on their own brain."
Jesus fuck
>>339581062
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/4/43/OWBCouriersBrainComingOnToMe.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20130725232131
>>339579454
>>339579325
In-universe Luck is defined as the ability to notice patterns (e.g. house's rainman prediction shit). He's probably also got a pretty high INT, but most of what you see from him is technically luck
>>339556343
>if you like house so much why don't you marry him!
Installing the mod right now.
>>339582107
>In-universe Luck is defined as the ability to notice patterns
no that's just how the implant works
>>339577238
>relying upon trained, professional soldiers to shoot down an object flying around at 100mph 2-3km away with an unguided rocket
Shooting down helicopters is fucking hard without all the modern stuff designed to defeat them, and they can shoot back at you from a very long way away. And given that the Vertibird was a cutting-edge prototype before the War, good luck finding anything that can shoot one down at combat ranges.
>>339556343
>>339582653
Never change /v/!
How the fuck do I fix this fucking game, it keeps running out of memory, even though I have all the fucking mods to fix it installed
>>339584482
did you do that one 4gb fix thing?
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