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HP or Defense?
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Luck
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>>339238171
HP, defence won't stop them fireballs man.
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>>339238171
Does this artist draw feet ever?

Def is a better choice
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INT
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>high HP is fat
>high def is hard
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HP
You want to be a huge wall of meat because it comes with more interesting skills. Like HP cannon that deals revenge damage based on how much health you're missing or berserk skills that become more effective as you have less HP. If you need 20% for the maximum strength buff it's way more effective if youre 20% is equal to someone elses 100% so you aren't actually fighting at a disadvantage.
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BROQUEST THREAD

PICK THREE COMPANIONS IN YOUR HEROIC ADVENTURE AND DESCRIBE THE WACKY SHENANIGANS THAT ENSUE
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>>339238723
sauce?
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>>339238171
Depends on how damage is calculated and how common fixed and/or percent-based damage attacks are.
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>>339238456
>tips wizard's hat
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>>339238171
Balance of both.
Armor won't protect you from poison, you boost your hp to survive things like that.
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>>339238171
I just came to say, nice filename.
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defence faggotry all the way

endurance and havel not vitality and potions ok
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HP.

>Defense vs physical
>Defense vs magic
>Defense vs ailments

Thats too situational and throwing your stats into one type of defense leaves you vulnerable to the others.

A bigger health pool is all-around better.
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>>339238773
Druid, villanious vixen and the orc troublemaker.

I'm sure the vixen and orc would probably be fucking each other.
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>>339238171
Defense.
Because blades, bullets and arrows rending your flesh don't feel too good even if you can take it.
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>>339238773
>Vixen
>P'Orc Druid
>Dubious Devil

we'd wander the land, doing dumb shit and making dumb pork related puns.
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>>339238991
This /thread
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>>339239058
Even when it makes you look like the biggest badass?
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>>339238171
Depends on what you're fighting and who's healing you.
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HP. Who knows how the defense formula even works since a lot of games use different ones.
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>>339238991
HP may not be a guarantee against ailments. Depending on the battle formulas, things like poison may deal damage based on percentage of your maximum health, rather than a raw number that could be ignored as you reach higher levels of play.
But it's still a pretty solid choice given that you just have more fucking health, to deal with all the beatings that come along while you're poisoned.
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>>339238171
most of the time overwhelming hp has been a bigger boon to me

as somebody else mentioned vengeance damage, dots etc

in the overwhelming majority of everything ive played more hp has beaten more def with few exceptions
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High HP means you have to use way more potions though. Assuming 1 point of HP and 1 point of defense give the same survivability you end up having to heal a lot less when you go with defense
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>>339238773
PTSD ranger, undead warrior and experienced warrior girl/amazoness.

No magicfags allowed.
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>>339239517
>Games where potions heal for a percentage.
Oh god, yes!
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>>339238171
Whichever one equals out to me taking more of a hit without sacrificing mobility, if mobility is advantageous in the game in question.
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>>339238171
Unless potions scale with HP, defense
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>>339238776
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1816230
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>>339238773
i pick odin the muscle moustache guy and the skyrim hammer zombie, they all torture mccree from overwatch for hours
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>>339238171
>demon paladin
what
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>>339238171
HP.

You don't die if you run out of defence.
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>Moves that deal damage based on max health

>Moves that pierce defense
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>Not one person in this thread picked NRFS

You're a bunch of fucking cretins. Nameless Rank and File Soldier is a goddamn hero.
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>>339238773
NEVER
EVER
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Depends on the game. But if you're fighting a guy with high attacking speed but no damage, if you haven't invested in defense, you're maximum fucked.
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HP because defense is so nebulous. Sometimes it means a percentage of damage taken off, sometimes it's just a counter to be able to avoid low damage attacks altogether. Sometimes it lowers throughout a fight based on hits you've taken, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes enemies might be able to attack through your defense.

I'd rather just have HP and know that I can, without a doubt, take demonstrably more hits than I used to.
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>>339238773
Warrior Friend, Rival and Warrior Girl

I want my game to be an anime.
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>>339238328
Look up breeding season. He probably draws a lot of feet for that. All nude too if you're not just a footer
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>>339238773
rankanfile, rankanfile, and of course RANK AND FUCKING FILE SOLDIER WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FAGGOTS
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>>339241401
>Guyry will never tune up your automail
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>>339238773
NRFS, Orc Troublemaker, and SbDD
The path of destruction we carve will be mitigated by the fact that we somehow convinced almost everyone that it was all okay, and it will continue to be okay.
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>Not being an evasion tank
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Which defense? Physical? Magic? Poison? Frost? Cuck?
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>>339241778
Sexual Defense. Protect that virginity. Remain pure.
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>>339241778
>speccing into Cuck defense when Alpha Strike automatically raises it at a higher coefficient

What the fuck are you even doing?
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>>339238773
NRFS, Sir Yorick, and Amazonian.

But I'm biased because I wrote a bunch of shit about Yorick back when people were actually contributing to this like it was going to be a thing. We were so optimistic in those days.
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>>339241132
>Enemy has 2 attacks


>Attack that ignores defense
>Attack that deals 100% of your max HP

Infinite def 1 hp vs infinite hp 1 def

1 hp because otherwise def character would die before getting hit
Hp gets 1 def to make it fair

>Piercing attack

>Def does nothing so the def guy dies
>Hp guy takes negligible damage

>100% max hp attack

>Attacks that connect always do at least 1 damage so def guy dies anyway
HP guy's 1 def reduces the damage by a little bit so it's not 100% max HP and survives
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>>339238773
Druid, Warrior Girl and Misunderstood Necromancer.
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>>339241843
>implying nu-male class can even learn alpha strike
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>>339241778
>Put all of my points into physical and magic def
>Final boss fucking charms the love interest from me because I didn't put any points into cuck defense.
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>>339241993
>He hasn't done the quest to unlock Alpha Strike on all classes

Come on, dude, how can you even get into a party without Alpha Strike? Even Trap can learn it now, the Power Bottom spec is OP as hell.
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>>339238773
>Pink hair design for Catgirl
>FIGHTTHEPOWER design for Lifelong Friend
>Missing multiple characters
>No Ultimate Antagonist choice available
>"Pick 3" instead of "pick 6", where you can switch up your party between fights

absolutely disgusting
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>>339238773
NRaFS, Warrior girl and evil black knight, When i want to go back and save my boi NRaFS I want EBS to beat me up.
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>>339238773
P'orc druid and rank-and-file soldier.
A can do attitude + a nice guy with amazing luck. Seems like a fun adventure!
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>>339238171
Huge stacks of HP if there's a fairly decent amount of percentage based life steal-on-hit or life gain-on-hit. It's how those million HP Death Knights solo'd the 5.1 and 5.2 Raids back in Pandamania while they were the active content.
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>>339238773
Rank and file, Amazon Huntress and Dark Souls protagonist
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>>339238991
Anon, I love HP but if you dont have any status defense you're going to get paralyzed, put to sleep, poisoned for percent-of-max-health damage ticks, or frozen.
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>>339238171
How the fuck that armour would work in real life, and what happens to his eyes? Why are they glowing?
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>>339242881
It's Divine protection, he ain't gotta explain shit.
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>HP
>Your healer runs out of juice because you big fat ass stack of HP gets chunked through your WHOPPING 0 DEFENSE
>Defense
>Your healer barely has to pay attention to your health because a single HoT keeps you alive

It's not even a question
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>>339242881
>in real life
Realism is boring.
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oh shitt~!
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>>339238773

Party of 6:

>P'Orc for buffing and healing.
>Elven Time Mage for healing (revert party member to state before damage), time stop, haste, and other utility.
>Psion for offensive casting/manifesting and problem solving
>Dragon Knight for expert frontline combatant
>Vengeful Viking Man for berserker frontline
>Me as multiclass Psion/Thief because fuck yeah Dishonored was great
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>>339241772
>I can count the number of games I've done this on one hand
>But every time it makes me both rock hard and completely terrified the whole time
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I choose __both___
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>>339241545
My nigga.
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If you have no armor to reduce all the damage you're tanking the extra hp isn't very useful.
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Def.

I'd rather endure less pain than having to endure more.
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>>339238773
I made a thing.
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>>339238171
HP

Because half the attacks in the game will outright ignore Defense, either relying on a completely different attribute or just bypassing attributes completely, but there are few (if any) attacks which can outright ignore HP. Throw on a HP-Regen effect that recovers a percentage of your Max HP, and you have an excellent tank which can quickly recover back to full outside battle.

Just carry those antidotes to get rid of poison.
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>>339243973
I'll put it in fate's hands
Come on, NRFS
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>>339243973
Sounds alright
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>>339243973
I just realized everyone is gonna get the Viking for a while. Oops.
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>>339243404
Can you please name the games?
and how to build?
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>>339244154
There was an attempt
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>>339243973
>>339244154
Okay okay, new idea, last four digits of your post and then the seconds of your post time + the minute determine what third character you get.
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>>339238565

Nah, that cant be right. Fat wouldnt be survivability at all. If anything, fat should be a DoT.

High HP characters are normally turbo fit, like monks and barbs, because its vitality.
High def would just be better armor and skill defending.
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HP >>>>>> DEF
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>poison bypasses def
>magic bypasses def
>crits bypass def
>some dumb abilities with ignore armor properties
Low hp/high def is just at too much risk of getting oneshotted. High hp at least gives enough time to back away in emergency.
Hp gets priority.
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>>339238773
Amazon Huntress wowee she has a bic booty
Ancient Steam Knight Won't have trouble communicating with Amazon since it's a robot
Dwarven Mechanic Purely there to fix the Ancient Steam Knight and make him into a modernized Steam Knight ;^)
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>>339244237
Okay ver. 2
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>>339238171
When you're dealing with damage that ignore armour, HP is always better. It also depends on whether or not defence reduces by a percentage or a flat amount.

If it reduces damage taken by a percentage and you have a means of healing yourself, defence essentially extends your life, but also makes it so that you can recover that 'life' more easily. If it reduces damage taken by a flat amount, it then depends on how much damage you take from attacks compared to your defence.
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>>339244328
>Magic and Crits bypass defense
What sort of retarded game are you playing?
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>>339244361
Better not get the fucking viking again
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>>339243973
>>339244361
>getting Androgynous Kid Cleric and Genderbend Androgynous Kid Cleric
>getting Steam Knight and Genderbend Steam Knight
>getting the Genderbend Scantily Clad Warrior Prince
But what happens if you get three of the same number? i.e., >>339252525
Do you just start a harem?
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>>339243973
rallin
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>>339238171
Generally you want to have both, because flat hp is good against everything but when dealing with stuff that's reduced by defense defense scales to give you exponentially more hp than if you'd just bought straight hp.

Having 1k health and taking 100% damage means you have 1k health.
Having 600 health and 50% damage reduction means you effectively have.

>>339244545
Then you get twins of your preferred gender.
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>>339243973
let's fucking go
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>>339244361
is this from game or what where c an i play it on kongregate or where link please :)
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>>339244669
>kongregate
Help
the nostalgia
im dying
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>>339244624
i assume you were about to say
> you effectively have 1.2k hp
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HP all of the day bro. Nothing better than a long ass HP bar.
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>>339244775
Yes.
I think it's time to go to bed.
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>>339244545
>asking about a triple number
>30 seconds off from getting a triple number myself
Double Necro and the Iron General seems like it would work out pretty well. Antisocial as fuck, but at least chats around the campfire would be engaging.

Double Necro and the Viking might be less interesting, but more of a traditional RPG party. Also, some weird zombie/valkyrie thing likely going on there. An endgame of a valkyrie and two liches would be interesting to see.
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>>339238773
>dickass thief
>P'Orc druid
>Orc troublemaker
Murderhobo our way through the adventure while having fun
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>>339238773
>Dragon Knight
>Evil Black Knight
>Nameless rank and file Soldier

When shit goes bad, the soldier is the one that's going to save our asses.
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>>339243973
Mine will be the best
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>>339238171
Whatever gives the most EHP against whatever is giving me grief.
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>paladins are historically French
>they always get German names
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>>339244946
>two black knights
>and a necromancer
You're playing the evil route because if you try to do the good route all the goodly people will assume you're all evil and kill you.
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>>339238171
DEF over HP
VIT over DEF
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>>339244361
Give me P'orc
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>>339243973
Rolling for dat rank an file
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>>339244361
I'll bite. Roll
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>>339243973
rolllllliiiiiiiinng
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>Check out survivability equipment/skills

>HP increases by 2
>HP increases by 6
>HP increases by 20 (MAX LEVEL!)
>Current HP is 500

Why do games even do shit like this?

Best is
>Defense is some arbitrary number like 20
>Power is like 12
>No other fucking numbers to go off of
>Attack and HP numbers are in the tens of thousands
>No way to fucking know how much does what without a shit load of trial and error.

McFucking end my life, i'll just play a goddamn archer or something.
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>>339243973
>>339245252
Ok so necromancer and buff guys
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>>339238723
Musclegirls are cute!
CUTE!
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>>339243973
lets do this
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>>339243973
sure why not
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>>339238171

It depends solely on how games handle defense, I like trying to work with defense though.
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>>339243973
Lets roll
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>>339244361
Attack! !
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>>339238773
I can't read that shit
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>>339245620
I'm fine with this.
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>>339243973
Here we go
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>>339245353

I generally despise games with a huge numbers attached to them, it's much harder to gauge out how much certain things affect your performance without downright pulling out a calculator or doing rough estimates.

It's one of the reasons i love playing RPG:s that generally handle things with number caps like 999 or 9999 without ever going past four digits. Just makes the game and balance a lot more manageable.
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>>339238171
Defense.
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>>339243973
rallin
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Who draws these? The artstyle is simple but works great when lining up a lot of unique characters.
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>>339244361
rall
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>>339244361
Rollin

>Just typing rollin is spam

/v/ is evolving.
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>>339244361
Here we gooo
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>>339242976
Why doesn't your healer have a percentage based heal?
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>>339244361
Brollin
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>>339241528
ahhh fuck I just realized the adventure cyoa and breeding season were done by the same artist aaaaaaaah
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>>339246162
what does he look like without helmet? Or armour?
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>>339238773
P'orc Druid
Orc Troublemaker
Warrior Princess

Can't imagine a more fun combination to go on an adventure with.
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if you've played dmc or ninja gaiden then you already know the answer
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>>339243973
Here we go
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>getting hit

plebs leave my random battles
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>>339246709
Damn, thats a lot of tough, old men
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>>339243973
hot blooded rival is my husbando
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>>339238773
>Cheerful Druid
>Noble Spirit Shaman
>Female Law-Enforcement Paladin
Heroic questing, noble sacrifices for one another, and healing when each other are on the brink of death. The final battle will involve a twist where the healing magic we've all been relying upon suddenly stops working, and so one of us will choose to run off and make the ultimate sacrifice only for the rest of the party to follow, somehow managing to pull through together.
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>>339244361
>Paladin
>Female
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>>339243973
boyy
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>>339238773
P'orc druid, brawny gentleman, misunderstood necromancer
>por'c for the cute factor to pick up birches on our quest, not to mention his sick buffs & heals and joyful and inspiring personality
>gentleman to get you into situations you'd never find yourself in, and while annoying would always try to push you to do your best
>necromancer for his wisdom as one who is beyond death, and for the conversations you might have about the world
>all 3 of you hanging out around the campfire after a hard day of adventuring, cracking jokes and talking about shit each of you pulled in your travels
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>>339238171
>Take a ton of damage but have enough HP to sponge it compared to having defense that prevents damage from happening altogether

Defense all day

>>339238773
Rank and File Solider, Brawny Gentleman, pompous Knight

Together we will have crazy heroic adventures slaying dragons and conquering dynasties, all the while NRFS won't even know how the fuck he managed to make it this far amongst these titans
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>>339243973
rollin'
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>>339238773
There must be another similar shit but with girls.
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>>339238171
depends if defense is a threshold to block all damage, or just a multiplicative factor which reduces damage taken
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>>339247749
Yes, it's called Towergirls.
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>>339238171
Dodge
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>>339243973
boi he about to roll it
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>>339238773
Half of these are NPCs you donut.
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>>339243973
rollan for NRFS
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>x or y?
>z LOL XP

Every time.
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>>339248995
>Get 2 stupid options
>Have to make a 3rd one
ecks dee
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>>339243973
rolls away
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>>339238773
Rank and file, perverted archmage and wise old wizard. 4chan party boyz
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