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DOOM 4 GENERAL OPINIONS
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So do we like this or not? I wont get the game for a few weeks but I need to know before I go to my friends house
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Completed the campaign, now I'm wanking in Snapmap. The tools are more powerful than I thought.
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>>337603719
Anyone?
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Singleplayer is okay
Multiplayer is dogshit
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>>337603913
Doesn't answer my question.

>>337603925
Okay so we dont like it. Cool. I dont want my friend to know i dont have it yet. Going to lie and say I dont remember much cause I was drunk lol
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>>337603719
Singleplayer is actually fun.
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Single player is fun and the heavy metal music is cool
Only played can arena in multi-player, it was easy and the players trash. First game I won a 5v1 encounter (I got lost from my team, sorry I was full health when ur dead guys)
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I like it, especially for Doomguy's attitutde throughout the whole game.

>I'm here to kill demons and I'm not about to listen to you talk about how or why they're here. No, don't bother pointing the way, I'll just follow the blood.
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>>337603719
Its another case of /v/ told me a game was shit and it was actually great.
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>>337603719
Depends on which side of the pond you're sitting.

>liked Wolf:TNO and SW2013, or haven't touched old Doom/Douk/etc in ages/at all
Probably gonna love it.

>Love good ol' Doom and -likes, and actually still play them actively, instead of relying on nostalgic memories or internet memes
Probably not gonna like it.

I belong to the latter. I find the game just mediocre all around, still having too much modern (console) "trends". Yeah, it takes couple steps towards the right direction, but it doesn't dedicate itself to the cause, and really suffers of a major identity crisis.
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>>337604024
>Needing other people to decide what you like or not

You are beyond pathetic tbqh senpai
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Would you faggots make up your fucking mind? I dont want to be made a fool of
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>>337604887
>But thats old Doom
>wait, why do they drop health
>WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO BRIGHT
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it fucking sucks
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>>337603719
I troughoutly enjoyed the campaign. Kept me hooked troughout it, and I pretty much played it trough in one sitting. Took me around 10-12 ours, though I spent a lot of time backtracking and searching for secrets. If you just blast trough the thing, I guess it will take about 8-10 hours.

In any case, I loved the combat. Felt just right to me, with how mobile you were, how powerful your weapons were etc. It was challenging, but fun on the highest difficulty you can play on your first run.
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>>337605319
>Siting for close to 10hours straight
>Playing video games no less
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>>337605397
Oh, I didn't literally sit on my ass for 10 hours to play videogames. I took small breaks every now and then, walked around a bit (to the kitchen, to get some grub) etc. It is just that I spent basically the whole day playing the game.
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>>337603719
NO NEED TO STRAIN YOURSELF OUT ANYMORE DRONE.

THE HIVEMIND HAS DECIDED.

THE HIVEMIND APPROVES THIS GAME.

YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH YOUR EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES DRONE.
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>>337604887
>too much modern (console) "trends".
>doesn't dedicate itself to the cause
>really suffers of a major identity crisis.
What does any of that even mean? What are your actual criticisms and not buzzwords and phrases that only really amount to "I don't like thing."
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>>337605586
Sorry bruh I hang out with hip people who talk about the newest things, and since I am PC masterrace i cant even rent the game, and im broke so i cant buy it so i need to be able to join in on the coversations we are having
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>>337604887
>mfw I love both Doom '93 and the new one

How does it feel not to enjoy anything anon? I guess you are a very sad adult.
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>>337606081
I guess you have no standards
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>>337603719
It's pretty OK. Less The Jew Order and more Rage in terms of combat and AI (the AI seems almost 100% cloned from Rage).

I like the visuals, it isn't nearly as piss covered as the E3 trailer and it runs at maximum everything at 3440x1440 at a rocksolid 60fps on my 980Ti with zero dips, even in the most chaotic explosion fest. If only all AAA gaymes were this well optimized at launch. Superior nvidia drivers are superior.
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>>337606214
Also the fact that it's using idtech6 and the Vulkan API. Hopefully this helps them get more use with how damn optomized the game is.
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>>337603719
i would like it if glory kills weren't a part of the equation, or if like the animation was just like a 5-frame punch or something. fucking hell
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>>337606457
You can disable them. And they are not that long anyway
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>>337606457
They shortened glory kills considerably from the E3 demo. They are about 1/4th of a second now rather than the 1.25 second monstrosity they were at Jew3
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>>337604887
You're just saying things about it, none of it is true. Its actually well done and "dedicates itself to the cause" I also play Doom almost daily, and still like it.
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>>337606594
Doesnt matter. The fact they are there at all is proof that this game was taken in a bad direction

The damage to this gems reputation is done
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>>337603719
Easily a modern masterpiece
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FPS OF THE YEAR
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>>337606162

theres a difference between having standards and making your own standards up because you want people to think you have standards.
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>>337606968
try dying in molten steel :^)
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>>337606594
You can't disable them, but you can disable the obvious as fuck glowy prompt in SP. Makes you have to look at the monster before you try to go in for one.
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>>337606841
So you are just going to argue about the direction of the game while just nitpicking about a single thing and ignoring it nailed about half of the things that mattered?

If it was for you we would have gotten this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HI-Ev2ZbX4
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>>337604024
>Okay so WE dont like it
what the fuck are you doing
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>>337603719
Finally an oldschool game for oldschool gamers.
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>>337604887
>implying you can't like Wolf TNO and Shadow Warrior 2013 if you've played and like Doom 1 and 2, Duke Nukem, etc.
whatever m8
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>>337607153
I meant we as in gamers. The people who post on /v/ are 95% gamers, which are a completely different demographic from dudebros and sluts
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>>337603719
>Multiplayer beta
>literally everyone shitting on it

>Game releases, the campaign is actually great
>90% of /v/ shitting on it because 90% are piratefags who can't play the game

>These retards discover cd keys websites and get the game for 30 bucks
>Threads with positive opinions start to appear

why do even come here
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>>337606841
>when brutal doom does it is ok

go hang yourself.
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>>337606018
It means that the game is fine but suffers from having the Doom name. Would be a perfectly fine modern game if it wasn't associated with Doom
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>>337607414
I never said that, but nice implication =3
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>>337607270
Following everyone else's opinion is the most normie thing you could possibly do.
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>>337607117
>glory kills is an integral part of game
>health/ammo economy is balanced with glory kills in mind
>nitpicking
Out. OUT!
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I've only played it for 60 minutes. It's okay. Not great, not bad.
The executions everyone complains so much are optional and I think they give a new flow to the gunfights. Tons of "this arena has been locked, kill all the enemies to progress" areas.
NPCs try to shit exposition and Doomguy just ignore them.
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>>337603719
Single player is okay like Wolfenstein TNO. better than most consolized shooters but still no where near real classic FPS

it's a """"""""classic""""""""" FPS for the millennial audience.
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>>337607584
Enemies drop shit when you gib them too. So just do that
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>>337607463
again that isn't an actual criticism just a meaningless statement. If you don't like it thats fine but you haven't explained whats bad about it or what makes it a bad DOOM.
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>Windows only

Too bad. It looked like an okay game.
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>>337603719
It's a Halo game. It's handholdey. There are talking heads blabbering at you at all times yet you never see your own face. You have to destroy dozens of industrial machines to progress. Enemies wear shields, spawn out of nowhere, have pointless nests that you have to destroy time and again to clear the room. Rooms unlock only after defeating all enemies (ie complete linearity). Environments are the exact opposite of classic Doom: pointlessly realistic to the point of banality yet oversaturated with a color, rounded edges, not fully navigable, lots of interchangeable corridors. Weapons only make muffled sounds and hardly seem to move when fired. Projectiles are shiny globes that do not really seem to connect with the target. Enemies are also oddly rounded and streamlined in their design, there are no medieval throwbacks, no fleshy surfaces, as in the architecture - everything about the game is metallic and shiny, just like in every other modern game. It's a Halo game. It's a fucking Halo game.
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>>337607584
they drop health when you are low with or without glory kill.
actually, glory kill is more risky because health fly all over the place unlike with a gun kill, where you can see where they are and plan a route to them. And glory kill force you to close in on group of enemies, limiting your line of sight to dodge fireballs and really hard hitting melee attack.
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Pretty fun so far. Ultra-Violence difficulty is too damn easy though. I wish I could play it on the hardest from the start.
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>>337607463
Then what exactly is old-school to you? Judging by the "standards" you display in this thread you'd think it was some mystical bullshit nobody can create again.
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>>337607117
as soon as I heard that you have to unlock basic doom movement speed via "upgrades" and don't get the old speed back until very late in the game, I honestly stopped caring about it.

oh, also glory kills. fuck this bullshit. you know what a glory kill is? making it out of a long-ass battle with barely any health left. that is one long-ass, interaktive glory kill. and it feels good, not like this fake instant gratification bullshit "press button and something awesome happens". how about you get fucking good at the game and then something awesome happens you fucking moron?
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>>337607775
>enemies wear shields
>literally only one type of possesed has them, and you can easily flank them or grenade the shield away
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>>337607758
>Using Mac/Linux
You only have yourself to blame when game companies decide to not cater to a niche market. You chose the hipster path
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>>337607925
you can.
+menu_advanced_AllowAllSettings 1

Maybe I need to git gud but Nightmare has posed a real challenge to me, unlike TNO's über.
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>>337608093
Ok, is there a way to 100% disable the motion blur in this game too? I makes 99.9999999% of all screenshots look like shit.
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I think its heart is in the right place. I firmly believe that shoehorned shit like the glory kills and RPG elements were stuff mandated by Beth/Zenimax.

And sadly that IS stuff that casuals eat up. If you listened to the nvidia footage filmed at the conference the only fucking thing the crowd pops for is the glory kills.

In the end its single player is a step above normal fare for today but not as good as real classic FPS, sort of like New Order and the new Shadow Warrior. Still a decently good game. Calling it a step in the right direction might be overly generous but I'm not sure how else to put it.
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>>337608046
>instant gratification bullshit
>enemies have to be near death to get a glory kill.
Maybe you should actually play the game before criticizing it like a fucking fool.
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>>337608093
because tno is a cover shooter.
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>>337607775
If there was a Brutal Halo mod this game would be it.
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God damn it. Just give DOOM guy a model so we can have some real reflections.
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>>337608184

You can disable it in the options you twit.
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>>337607775
>I watched a 6 minute youtube video about this game: the post
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>>337607925
>not playing on nightmare
only ultra nightmare is locked you know
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>>337608184
I think there is but I didn't bother... look trough all the options there are many, or google it.
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>>337608201
>>337607902
All these mental gymnastics to justify "press f to win" nonsense.
Just end yourselves, shills.
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>>337608346
It just sets it to LOW you kikeloving faggot
>>337608432
Nightmare is greyed out on my game
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>>337608432

Except that's wrong. Both difficulties are locked until you beat the game once.
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>>337607775
>Enemies wear shields
There's only one enemy type dude.
So adding variety to encounters is now a bad thing?
I'm sorry this isn't 1993 anymore when enemies doing nothing more than hurling easy to dodge fireballs at you was dangerous enough.
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>>337608563
>>337608545
try highlighting it retards its lets you pick it
im on my first run and i started on nightmare
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>"It was necessary, I assure you"
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>>337608059
Ok, I could swallow the idea of shields in a Doom game if they weren't fkn futuristic glowey multi-stage colour-changing shields. As it is, their surface might as well spell H - A - L - O. And I didn't even touch upon the sounds those mobs make. It's not like the bellowing heard in the first two games, but a stock zombie roar taken from what seem like The Walking Dead TV show.

What I'm trying to say is that the mood of D44M is off in every single minor detail. And that's because it's a cookie cutter Halo clone that doesn't have an identity of its own.
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>>337608272
haha, i thought so too
the reflection actualy reflect the environment properly
just the player model is omitted, which is weird, because if you already reflecting the environment dynamically, player model shouldnt be a problem
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>>337608545

No, there is a motion blur on/off option you retard. I'll get you a fucking screenshot because I know i'm right.
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>>337608201
oh yeah, and they get this awesome glow, indicating I now get instant gratification with the press of a button. shoot, press awesome button. shoot, press awesome button. repeat until dry of saliva.
don't forget how the game is meant to be played with this bullshit, because it's your ammo and health source.

I mean, you are not saying they are designing all this just so you don't use it, right? you are not THAT retarded, are you?
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>>337608186
New Order had ironsights, health regen and hitscan enemies.
But i think New Order's sucess is what made Doom to get rid of hitscan, cover and health regen completely.
Now that we have Doom that is sucessfull we can finally have a proper Quake 1 remake with a competitive multiplayer and we're set.
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Its pretty great.

There is no WE, though.
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>>337608505
in og doom you press lmb to win. nothing skillfull in that.
here you have the option to press f to save ammo if the enemies are far enough away or press lmb if they are close. or press rmb+lmb to unleash an explosive shot from the shotgun to save on rockets. or press g to kill the whole group for more doodads exploiting the fact that you are low on health, meanwhile dodging small fireballs that can 3 shot you on full health and big fireball and melee that can 1 shot you on full health without armors.
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>>337608797
On nightmare health from enemies is useless. It gives you +3-5 hp maximum in total and health does not drop from every enemy.
Also on Nightmare you HAVE to look for armor vests, because shards only give you +1 AP and without armor you die in few hits.
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>>337608823
Was all of it part of your plan?
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>>337607902
are you actually stupid?
>getting free health and ammo is a risk because it forces you to get close to enemies!

so you never used melee or the shotgun in doom 4? good to know, friend!
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I've only watched streams and the game looks easy and boring as fuck

every enemy that spawns has a 3 second window where they do jackshit and QTE kills seem retarded AND give you additional health packs, ammo and armor

I have no interest in this game at all
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>>337608596
>I'm sorry this isn't 1993 anymore when enemies doing nothing more than hurling easy to dodge fireballs at you was dangerous enough.
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>>337606457
You can unlock a rune where you perform a glory kill in like 0.2 seconds, it's fucking great.
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>>337606782
>just saying things about it
>on a discussion board!
wow, what a gr8 non-argument.
I dig tons of 1990s original shooters, and I barely can stand D44M.
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>>337609028
that's a good list of everything wrong with doom 4, gonna screencap that
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>>337609123
because while you are doing glory kill, enemies have time to close in on you. especially imps, they love to scratch or burn your back. unlike using a shotgun when i can move and look around.
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>>337609129

>I've only watched others play it and haven't played it at all
>Watch me act like an authority on how the game works

/v/ in a nutshell
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>>337609193
the thing is, it's YOUR case.

I love shadow warrior and can't stand the remake. I liked og doom and i'm enjoying this one very much.
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>>337609180
yeah, in berserk mode you just RIP AND TEAR
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>>337608797
see >>337609028
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Is the plot connected to Doom 3?
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>>337608797
And back in the old Doom you shoot and shoot and shoot until dry of saliva.
But now pressing a button as well is the ultimate evil. Especially given how you actually have to work for it (which was already said in previous posts but you just dismissed it like an idiot).
Also, you can avoid this completely if you want. Just don't press the fucking button and shoot them once more. Hard right? They still drop stuff sometimes and you have other sources of stuff as well.
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>>337607270
Nice bait. Not very subtle but aggressive enough to grab some (You)'s
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>>337609028
>in og doom you press lmb to win. nothing skillfull in that.

so you didn't play original doom games. gotcha, shill

>here you have the option to press f to save ammo

That's not an option in this game. It is a necessity - fucking game is balanced around glory kills gimmick. They have no reason to exist in a shooter game and no amount of shilling on your part will change that.
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You can tell the person who is on a "shill"-exposing crusade and keeps trying to turn D44M into a meme is literally the same person in these threads
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>>337609057
so you mean if you play the game on the difficulty for people who have the time and skill to learn it for countless hours, one shit thing about the game actually becomes arbitrary?

so tell me, how about the "kill all enemies in arena to progress" level design? will this get better on nightmare too?

or how about not getting your full speed until late into the game - will you get it all in the beginning on nightmare? I'm just trying to grasp how much they fucked this one up.
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>>337609130
die in one shotgun hit from any range
tons of cover to hide from him
unless he is used as ambush or a twisted version of a sniper, he is a non issue.
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Damn nigga, you spooki
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>>337609130
Thankfully there are no more frustrating shit like sniping chaingunners, shotgunners behind doors and those FUCKING LOST SOULS.

Lost soul redisign is the best thing about this game. How to fix an annoying flying enemy? Just make them explode after each attack. If they hit you they die and won't bother you again.
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>>337609446
>literally one reply and yours
>good bait

/v/ has really gone to shit.
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>>337609130
Doom 1 m8. All the projectile throwing monsters just threw a slow moving fireball with varying amounts of damage. Plus the only hitscanners might as well have just been ammo refill spots.

It was Doom 2 that gave us actual difficult projectile attacks (mancubi multi shots) and monsters that did more than just walk and shoot something (archvile).
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>>337608823
Like I said, TNO definitely had modern conventions, to its detriment. I enjoyed the cover mechanics and lean for stealth playthroughs though.

And hitscan enemies were in the original Doom games too to be fair.
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>Demons were so afraid of Doomguy they trapped in him some demonic sarcophagus thing so he'd stop slaughtering them all
>He gets out
>They're not scared of him

So does Hell have Alzheimer's or something?
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>>337609565
>Just make them explode after each attack
Seriously? What the fuck, Bethesda! That's not cool nor good thing, AT ALL.
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>>337609423
>please gimp yourself by ignoring entire game mechanic
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>>337604887
Nothing but buzzwords. I haven't played the game yet so I won't say that it's good or bad, but you clearly had your mind made up before playing it, if you even played the game that is. Go form your own opinion and then come back.
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>>337607157
I don't understand what you're trying to imply. Well user reviewed games are all shit? Is bait really this badly made on /v/ now?
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>>337609695
The ones that remembered died off
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Guys
Does DOOM support 1280x1024?
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>>337607758
Just run it on WINE or something if you're a bad enough dude.
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>>337609314
so you are not attacking enemies who are standing on the side, but you run directly into the middle for a glory kill where you get attacked by everyone?
and all the punishment you get for being so shit at this game is a light scratch?

who the fuck am I talking to here, what is this? I can't believe you are a normal poster here
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>>337603719
>we
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>>337609130
Congratulations, you gave a good counterexample.
A single one, that came about in 1994, not 93.
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>>337607758
>>>/g/
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>>337609695
Who says that they aren't scared of him?
They are still gonna fight.
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>>337609717
Or prove that you're very fucking good at the game.
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Do I have a shot at running this shit on low @60FPS/1440x900

>Don't want to upgrade GPU till I can get a new power supply as well
>Now the 1070's are looming
>Fell behind the times

I played it on my buddies PS4, and it feels fun albiet horrible on controller
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>>337604024
beta as fuck
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>>337609597
It's referring to the content of the post, something your reddit mind is unable to comprehend.
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>>337609565
Thankfully there is no more challenge. Just shoot a few times and press F for something awesome to happen :^)
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>>337609354
normal poster
>game looks boring
>"hey guys, game looks boring, not gonna get it"

you
>"yeah, look at those idiots, they just look at footage of something, and when they think it's boring, they don't even buy it! /v/ in a nutshell, am I right guys?"
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>>337609723
>nothing but buzzwords
way to belittle people, and show that you don't seriously follow the gaming industry in whole at all.

The game ended up being EXACTLY the same shit I predicted it to be already months ago. The only difference between then and now is, that back then I was either a "b8", or called out for judging a game that's "not even out yet!", while now I'm either an "unpleasable oldfag" - or apparently I have "not even played the game!". Or all four at the same time.
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>>337609971
Why should I prove anything? I just want to enjoy the game without fucking "press f to win" bullshit. But when entire balance revolves around getting glory kills then fuck that.
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>>337609971
yeha, I could also play original doom without using the W key. but do you know what? I'm not gonna do it, like I won't buy doom 4.
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>>337604887
>Dedicate itself to the cause

What the fuck are you on about?
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>>337610027
how can the content of a post be good if it has been written with the intention to bait and he only catches 1 guy?
Please tell me mr oldfag, i have been around here only since 2008.
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>>337609447
>so you didn't play original doom games. gotcha, shill
so what did you do in doom 93? I played both of it and a number of wads, even those shitty anime ones. You move around? checked. You click lmb? checked. You switch weapons when it suit you? checked. That's exactly nu-doom. You must do all this before getting into the "press f to win" part.
Here in nu doom you can risk death to prioritise drop. enemies hit harder and will get out of your line of sight, not toward it. you have more weapons plus alt fires on each of them, plus grenade, plus melee. Enemies have secondary fire and some even have two types of melee attack.
Nu-doom is a fucking good game even compared to old ones. Deal with it, fag.
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>>337609868
>gets proven wrong with an example
>b-b-b-but it's just a single example
are we in "deflection general" or something?
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>>337610214
Do I really have to seriously explain this basic shit?

The whole hype around D44M has been all about
>Going back to roots!
>Real oldschool mayhem!
>More buzzwords! Rip & tear!
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>>337610031
I bet you're one of those faggots that never tried to complete Plutonia or TNT on difficulty higher than i'm too young to die.
Just fuck off.
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Eh I bought it because it was 37 dollarydoos.
I am enjoying myself through single player, decent challenge but to hard. Mostly I die from my own mistakes (namely platforming) than others.

Runs very well for how it looks. The only thing I think is to those saying its to bright...did you change the gamma at all? It defaults to 1...it should probably be around .3~4
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>>337603719
Singleplayer is probably the best FPS to come out in a long ass while.

Shame multiplayer is garbage. That's kinda where Doom had its replayability. Unfortunately this game is just another play it once and let it sit in your collection kind of game.
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>>337610207
> I could also play original doom without using the W key.
Not the same thing at all. this just shows you're speaking out of your ass.
> I won't buy doom 4.
Ok.
> I just want to enjoy the game without fucking "press f to win" bullshit
You've been told again and again that you can do that. By people that, unlike you, have played the game. And yet, it's somehow impossible because your ass says so. Fucking moron.
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>>337610301
you risk death only if you are a retard though
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>>337610012

You could probably get away with it, it tends to run pretty well on most/all setups.
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>>337610012
Most of the games are not as demanding as most /v/irgins say, you dont need a fucking 4K monster build to play some random vidya, your specs are fine for this game. I would definitely upgrade the GPU tho, for future games.
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>>337610473

I'm only playing it to bide my time until Overwatch comes out

Maybe SnapMap will end up with some interesting shit on it in a month or two
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>>337609835
enemies only drop 20+ health when you are in danger of being 1 hit. which mean you are <30 hp. otherwise they just drop 5 hp, which is literally nothing, you cant even heal to full killing every demons from a gore nest with it.
health dropping out of enemies dont come instantly to you.
so you can get 1 shot by an imp's melee or fireball if you do glory kill indiscriminately.
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The chainsaw needing ammo is the worst part about this game.
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>>337610635
>console FPS gaymer
shocker
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>>337610568
or when i want 100 health instead of getting 30 and then 5 for every kill while summoners and hell knights are fucking around.
exploding a bunch of imps at<30 hp is a good feel
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>>337610661

Chainsaw as a last resort to make an enemy shit a ton of ammo is a neat mechanic, though I usually just end up using it on those guys with shields
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OH BOY i can't wait till 1 year from now everyone on /v/ praises D44M as a brilliant shooter.

Just like a few days ago I saw many others praise doom 3 as "good but misunderstood"

Never change, /v/ :^)
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>>337609835
Maybe on normal. Imps pretty much one shit you if they get a direct hit
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>>337610301
Nu-Doom locks you up into clear, obvious "combat arenas", all the fucking time. The Pinata-enemies literally eliminate need for supply conservation and looking for the secrets that could tip the scales for your favors (since most of the "secrets" are just silly collectibles).
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>>337610842
>can't wait till 1 year when D44M is literally being forgotten by people and the times, since we never got modding tools.
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>>337610501
you are, again, calling people a moron who won't buy your shit product.

get it into your head: the game is designed to feel modern. it's designed around using your awesome-button. it's designed around being slower than doom and having your speed locked away in a fucking upgrade system.

so no, my homosexual friend. no dollar will be spent, and neither will friends or family. I hope shilling at least pays for you.
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>>337610661
>og doom
>barely use chainsaw outside killing pinkies
>nu doom
>chainsaw can even kill a baron of hell, effectively being a valid weapon thorough all the game
>to not make it OP as hell, developers decide to give it ammunition so it has limited uses
>but some guy on /v/ knew better
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>>337610981

>what is Fallout 4
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>>337609408
it seems to only follow the "plot" up to doom 64
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>>337608652
>smashes screen
>title sequence

got hyped.
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>>337610842
I give D44M about 2-4 weeks until nobody talks about it anymore. maybe less. it's really bad so far.
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>>337610842
>D44M
While I share your opinion, that name sounds retarded.
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>>337610661
They made the chainsaw a tactical sort of thing where you want to save it for when you really need ammo, but that's not really the enjoyable way of using a chainsaw. You want to just get into crowds and start tearing it up, like left 4 dead 2.

I guess they couldn't really balance it with the spongey enemies, it's a shame.

>>337610842
>People shitting on it before it comes out admits it's pretty good after playing the game
what a shocker desu senpai

>>337610880
enemies don't drop ammo that often and not much of it unless you equip an upgrade that boosts ammo drops, which isn't useful at all when you consider other choices that could occupy the same slot. 90% of the ammo you're going to find is from pre-placed pickups. Occasionally, using the chainsaw.
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>>337610635
>Overwatch or Doom on consoles
Why do people subject themselves to this?

>>337610842
Doom 3 was alright. That's exactly its reception on release. Nothing has changed.

Doom 4 is not a brilliant shooter by any means, it's just better than 90% of the garbage shit out today because it actually plays like an FPS and not an on rails QTE movie simulator with auto-aim.

The last singleplayer FPS campaign that was this good was probably F.E.A.R. 1.
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>>337608272
>>337608740

you can clearly see the doomguy in that pic
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>>337611083
they made a 4th one? when did that happen?
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>>337603719
best modern shooter ive played
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>>337611054
One hit kills aren't satisfying.
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>>337610992
>get it into your head
I have no reason to get your bulllshit inside my head.
> no dollar will be spent, and neither will friends or family.
I already showed I don't care about that. But I guess you already showed nothing can enter your skull either, no matter how many times it's hammered, so I guess we're pretty much even.
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>>337603719
First run on Ultra violence.
Maybe,this is the most challenging campaign I played since Resistance 2.
The only flaw were the secrets because i often get lost,or just give up,by trying finding them,which is a bit frustrating.
Anyway,I really enjoyed it,the SP went over my expectations and i'm planning on completeing it in nightmare/ultra nightmare difficulty.
The MP is still,a bit,'off' for me,even tho they added a lot of stuff since the beta.

8/10 bretty good

>>337609314
Everytime you perform a glory kill demons automatically stop everything they're doing and,basically,they just stand there watching you killing one of his friends....or atleast,this is what i noted
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So are these guys like medieval doomguys or something? Also who was the doomguy in doom 3?
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>>337610880
or, you know, getting plasma rifle / rocket launcher well before their "normal" unlocking.

s-surely you can't be so retarded as to judge this game without even having tried it, r-right? Get a pirate copy and come back in a few days to shitpost, but with actual knowledge of the cause.
Currently you are just embarrasing yourself.
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>>337609695
this fucking plothole
>I am a grunt
>I just saw this dude kill an entire battalion on his own using nothing but his fists and a pistol
>so instead of falling back and coming up with a plan I will stay here and stand my ground surely I will be the one to kill him by doing the same exact thing every other now dead man did
The demonic blood priests had the right idea.
And well what do you know their idea worked.
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>>337609695
>They're not scared of him

I've seen imps running away from me like neckbeards from women, other thought they could take me on.
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>>337611152
the fact that there even IS any upgrade-systems is fucking disgusting already.
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Question, I'm playing on Nightmare difficulty. If I reach a checkpoint can I exit and return to that checkpoint or do I have to finish the level?
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>>337611367
That's really just subjective. I understand why you wouldn't like it in your shooter growing up on DOOM, though.
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>>337611338
they look like Space Templars
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>>337611296
i bet you'd prefer to talk to the creatures
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Doom 4 has a great story about love and redemption.
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>>337610880
you must be a shitter to have to find secret to win og doom. i can progress leisurely at my own pace blind on ultra violence, finding secret i can and still win. Id is not that scumbag that lock critical resource behind secret.
Og doom give you much less shit in a level by comparison and most of the resource are earned through combat. Enemies are much more dangerous as well. Dont believe me? try a classic map in nu-doom. I kill everything i meet in OG doom anyway so the arena doesnt bother me because they are well designed, not linear corridor combat nor pseudo flat arena with some cover.
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>>337611296
yeah true, it's much more satisfying to stand there and hold down a button while the chainsaw stunlocks a pinky demon and it goes through an animation loop until its health reaches zero
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>>337611367
Games need to be a little more complex today then "FIND GUN, PICK UP GUN, SHOOT IT"

This simplicity was a thing back then because game development with complex features wasn't as easy.

If the upgrade system adds fun, there's no reason to hate it.
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>>337611391
I'm pretty sure you can start at the checkpoint, but don't quote me on that. I marathon'd the game on the most part.
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I love the high impact sexual violence. Doomguy has a cock like a thermos. Just look at the face hole he gave this low tier demon.
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>>337611531
>Og doom give you much less shit in a level by comparison
*nu-doom, my bad
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>>337611391
You can exit, then continuing the game will start you on the checkpoint
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>>337603719
the singleplayer is amazing, the multiplayer is made by the halo guys so it's utter shit

snapmap is great fun
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>>337611574
>>337611616

Thanks based anons
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>doomguy saving vega into a drive
can't wait for the dlc to fuck hayden's shit up
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im kinda annoyed that snapmap isnt built very well for making single player maps especially with the 2 weapon limit
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I did not expect to enjoy it, but I do have to admit it's surprisingly fun

The maps are huge and very intricate

The combat is as fast as you want it to be and hectic (at least on ultra-violence)

The only thing I don't quite like are the checkpoints, but it's not too bad. Wish they were in more convenient spots, but it does kinda save your progress (what you picked up) I guess

Executions are not as bad as people made them out to be a integrate nicely into the other mechanics

Haven't tried the multiplayer but it looks pretty bad
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The fact people on /v/ say its better than Shadow Warrior shows that this place is being raped by shills. Really, unless you like piss easy feel good games then you will hate the game

So far nobody has said what they like about it
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>>337611304
>I already showed I don't care about that

every reply is tears of desparation, filled with nothing but ad hominems and a single, repeating argument
>YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME!

but I don't. and you say you don't care, but you care so much, with every word, every sentence, every post. it's tragic, really, that the purpose of your existance ITT is solely to tell me how I should ignore a core mechanic in nu-doom, a game so hopelessly devoted to be a console shooter, so that I, someone who enjoyed good pc shooters, might enjoy this one too. and I still say no, my friendly shitter.
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>>337606019
Maybe try telling them you haven't played it but would like to hear what they think?
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>>337603719
I remember /v/ fucking shitting their pants about how awful this was going to be.
Muh Chainsaw cutscenes
Durr Executions are bad
This game will be terrible!
Turns out it was pretty awesome. Bethesda put a massive amount of effort into this and it show. I can't say 10/10 yet because I haven't played it till my entire body hurts yet. But I will try for that monday. Will give a full report.
>>337603913
Snapmap is going to make shit like Halo 3 customs a possibility again.
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>>337611782
>we want the halo audience
>without the waifu
BRAVO ID
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>>337611338
They are pulling Bioshock here.
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>>337607057
CoD/Halo Fag detected. The game is intensely cool, even if glory kills do get a little redundant if you aren't varying where and when you're pulling them off. The music,introduction,intrigue, graphics, everything is awesome.

Anyone who likes current FPS standards probably won't like it. 'Oh shit, no wall running or cute little achievement awards for every kill I get?! Fuck this game, fighting demons with godlike weapons is bullshit.'
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I'm having fun looking for secrets. Game runs pretty well at 4k resolution with 980 Ti, as long as you disable AA. I don't really need it anyway.

D44M is definitely a strong GOTY candidate for me.

>>337610012
You should be able to run it.
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Is there a demo?
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Is it just me or is Ultra-Violence pretty fucking easy? I can count my deaths on one hand, I even ignored powerups to make it harder.
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>>337612107
look at the year, grandpa
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>>337612171
You are just too good for video games, champ. Might as well stop playing them entirely.
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>>337608063
not hum but also freetard
Yes, you are right, we chose hipster path, because some of us care about freedom and other principles, so that one day even you normies will be able to enjoy the good sides of free software, even if it means currently we have to deal with relative lack of vidya.
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>>337612171
Have you finished the campaign at a lower difficulty before?
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>>337611556
More satisfying than oneshotting enemies, yes.
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>>337612050

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
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>can't see legs
0/10 it was OK
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>>337611887
>Anyone who likes current FPS standards probably won't like it. 'Oh shit, no wall running or cute little achievement awards for every kill I get?! Fuck this game, fighting demons with godlike weapons is bullshit.'

when I read your post, it sounds like one of those retards is trying to do a spoof on himself.

anyone who likes current FPS standards will fucking love D44M, that's the entire fucking point of the game.
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>>337612309
We live in a proprietary world. You can support free as in freedom all you want, but you are using vastly inferior software and denying yourself of a good time in general, all because of "MUH FREEDOMS".

>currently
You will always and forever deal with the lack of video games because Linux is absolute garbage for personal use and no one will support it.
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>>337612309
this is why most of us have separate machines
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>>337611556
that is more satisfying, because you are actually doing it
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>>337611801
this.
ffs that plasma rifle has all the satisfaction of a bubble gun.

Quake 4 was better than this

yep
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>>337612179
Not that anon but I wish there were more demos for games these days

Almost all games that had demos (surprisingly mostly ones on the PSN store) which I tried I ended up purchasing

It gives you a good feel of the game first hand, without needing to wait for other people's opinions to actually know what the game is about
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>>337612521
It's cannon. It wasnt there in doom 1 and 2 and 3 :^)
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>>337612309
>muh free as in socialist slavery
You realize the GPL only exists for lawsuits and to line Stallman's pockets right? It means programmers can't own their creations and make a living on it. They have to be wage slaves. You're a cuck and you're ruining the world.
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>>337603719
Singleplayer is great, multiplayer and snapmap are dissapointing though. For me it's the removal of arena aspects for the multiplayer, and the fucked up matchmaking, 4 player limit, and two weapon limits of snapmap
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>>337612560
>anything inferior to windows

oh boy, the shills go full out today, hold your horses!
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>>337612701
THIS

MIT or FreeBSD style licenses or GTFO. Upstreaming is for literal retards. The only thing that matters is the downstream, otherwise known as PROGRESS
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>>337611556
It is tho
I actually feel like I'm in control, chopping a fucker in half, unlike in nuDoom
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>>337607270
>we as gamers

Fucking kill yourself
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>>337612785
which, as we all know, TAKES SACRIFICE

did i meme good anon kun?
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>>337603719
Been playing it for a few hours. It puts most other singleplayer fps games to shame in sheer fun factor alone. the maps are far better than I expected, although it does that annoying thing where it highlights half of the "secrets" on the map, making them not really secrets at all.
Taken as an arena shooter without any ties to the rest of the franchise, it's fairly good. The weapon mods are decent, the gameplay is fast and there are a metric shitload of different enemy types.

The multiplayer is a let-down, though. If they'd ignored that aspect entirely and focused all their resources on the singleplayer like the new Wolfenstein, it would've been a lot better.

I haven't tried snapmap, and I'm fairly confident that whatever people can do with it, the results won't be half as impressive as what some dedicated nerds could do with some modding tools.
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>>337603719
I like it. It's good fun, just like Wolfenstein is. The only problem is that there's so many fucking games this month and it gets hard to find time for everything plus the occasional assfaggots with friends.
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>>337611556
man, you guys remember how awesome it felt when you could actually CONTROL your weapons?
how your fingers cramped down on your fire button, how you carefully danced over wasd to not slide up the keyboard?

now listen carefully you little shit:

do you remember when you actually were able to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR AN ANIMATION TO FINISH?
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Why? So you can bitch about a game you never played if we tell you its shit? Or you can praise it if we tell you its good? Play it have the experience and form your own opinion schill.
> I preferred 3
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>>337613180
>assfaggots

You dont deserve to play games
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I jsut want a crack to be available, I played the mp beta and it's ass, but the campaign looks like something I could rip through a few times whcih is something I really enjoy. Once "correctly" then 1-2 runs where I go fast and fuck nerds, best games for that are Dishonored and HL2, maybe DooM can join them.
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>>337613301
If you feel like its something you will play all the way through, why don't you just buy it?
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>>337613301
>crack

You're gonna be waiting a while
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Its pretty good so far, I was afraid of casualization, handholding, QTEs, too much story, etc but surprisingly the game turned out to be fine
Its not Doom but still a decent shooter
>glory kills aren't that flow-breaking and can easily get used to it, even satisfying sometimes
>weapons are pretty cool
>level design is actually good as fuck and also complex (compared to other modern shooters)
>little to no story or cutscenes, there are some interruptions but they are really short
>music during fights is top tier
>AI is decent, enemies are strategically moving around instead of shooting from a fixed position

inb4 shill
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>>337611801
>unless you like piss easy games
>enemies are bullet sponges unless you melee
>melee gives you health
The simple answer is don't fucking melee, faggot. Jesus, these people are like the same ones who screamed that the new Deus Ex had highlights on objects you could interact with, even though you could turn that shit off.
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>>337612342
No, this was my first playthrough. Someone on the Doomworld forums mentioned that UV wasn't as hard as in the originals.
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>>337613391
>buying games
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>>337607270
>I meant we as in gamers

>mfw
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>>337613301
>I jsut want a crack to be available

m8....
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bunch of fucking nerds holy shit just buy the fucking game
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>>337613301
>I just want it for free
>I-I-I mean I don't want to er.. support iD
>Uh.. no wait I will buy it eventually really, I just don't support this sort of thing
>But I will totally buy it after I have completed it for free plenty of times I swear.
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>/v/ always cites TotalBisquick as some sort of authority on PC gaming
>/v/ loves Giant Bomb
>TotalBitchtits and Giant Bomb both love DOOM
>/v/ hates DOOM even though nobody here ever forms their own opinion

I don't get it
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game is fine

the game has some "flow" issues though.

It spends a lot of time locking you in "arena" style spaces where you just have to kill until new things stop spawning in.
After that, you're usually a bit "turned around" so progressing to the next area usually involves you working out which way you were going in the first place.

Overall, it creates a weird lull, where you are alone and pick up the remaining health/ammo before working out where to go next, and then have some more fighting.
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>>337613758
Don't try to understand /v/.
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>>337613528
SHIT YOU FUCKING GOT ME

Candle sniffing fuck fence, go climb a wall of dicks./
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>>337613818

thats how the original DOOM worked though

unless you already knew where all the keycards were you spent a lot of time running around after killing everything
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>>337613818
>working out which way to go
>having to explore is bad
xDDDD
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>>337613523
>game designed around getting free health and ammo from awesome-button-animations
>GUYS STOP PLAYING THE GAME HOW IT'S INTENTED! YOU SHOULD ALL PLAY IT LIKE A GAME FROM 1993, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DESIGNED LIKE A MODERN SHOOTER AND CANNOT BE PLAYED LIKE A CLASSIC ONE! TRUST ME! PLEASE TRUST ME!

nope, no money for you mr bethdrone
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>>337613758
it just a prank bro
we want everyone in the world being able to enjoy gaming haha
everything on /v/ is ironic, dude lmao.
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>play for a couple hours
>start getting heavy fps hits and have to restart

anyone else?
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>>337614069
turn down the texture cache. biggest fps killer for me.
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>doomguy can jump

this casual piece of manure wont get 1 buck from me, sorry.
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>>337613935
more like
>enter a room
>fight until you work out the layout of the room
>kill everything
>a door has opened somewhere in the room, but there's no real clue
>so just run around the room until you spot the new hole to exit through
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>>337613391
>>337613676
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and not support Bethesda, that's super ok with me, anti-pirates are the worst thing to happen to this board.
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>>337613930
original Doom's "arenas" are much larger, and you can often just run past dudes to grab keys, etc
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>>337613758
I hate giant bomb and total shithead, I also hate d44m, but I liked quake 3 and spent over 900 hours in civ V even though never playing the earlier ones. what now?
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>game actually allows you to look up and down
refunded this shit so hard, doom is supposed to be about killing shit not aiming
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>>337614239
>there's no real clue
the fucking map paints explored area with blue and unexplored with grey
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>>337614239
You are literally clueless
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>>337613758
it is all b8 m8
/v/ literally has no vidya taste
it is merely contrarians and hipsters trying to "rise above the sheeple"
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So multiplayer is apparently horseshit. I will just wait until this goes on sale on Steam for 20 bux in a year or two.
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I remember when I actually wanted to buy fallout 4 back then, but after all the shill-threads on /v/ I actually went ahead and pirated first - and boy, was I glad to not have wasted $60+ for this. I don't even want to pirate D44M anymore after I read about having to unlock your own speed.

modern gaming has become like modern movies - a bunch of polished superhero shit with the occasional gem between them.
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