>23 years later DOOM saved gaming industry once again
How do they do it?
John Carmack is based
>>337562831
It just works
>Denuvo
>>337562883
He just did early parts of the engine and the snap map editor thing.
>>337562831
by appealing to console morons, and over-hyping it to death, while simultanously creating yet another generic, RPG-shit filled "shooter" with tons of cinematics.
>>337562982
This is false
>>337562831
They go to mars periodically and wake up a special developer to slay all the fucking morons ruining it.
Nice Shill
>>337562831
New Doom game is all:
1.go fast.
2.No cover shooting and regenerating health/shields.
3.survive by getting up close to enemies and shooting them before they can shoot you.
>>337563006
Where are these cinematics you speak of?
this is how the game is meant to be played.
www twitch tv/draqu_
>>337563217
These are all good things.
>>337563217
... So, the new Doom is Doom?
I like it because when you sink in lava you do a Terminator 2 thumbs up. And you get a Carlton dance unlocked at the start. I really missed original Doom level design, semi open levels instead of pure linear Half Life style ones. Also like the original Doom its not trying to be anything but fun.
>>337563410
yep, the multiplayer is shit but singelplayer is all doom.
So is this game good or not? I was tempted to by it today but decided to wait and see wait the general consensus was first.
>>337563467
Just buy it.
>>337563261
everywhere.
you do more waiting in D44M than in Ocarina Of Time, as the action is constantly halted by you picking up items / pressing Switches / killing things in finishers.
>>337563467
If you loved shit like Wolf:TNO or SW2013, you will prolly adore this crap. Personally, I hated both, so this is shit too:
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
>everything glows.
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit.
>only 4 players max in Snapmaps.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
>bosses have HP bars
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
>/v/ was wrong again
What a surprise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XXKbgFrfDU
>>337563450
Am I the only one enjoying multiplayer? Bunch of stupid fun exploding silliness.
>>337563467
It's shit. Check threads on it from some weeks ago. Everyone was shitting on it and rightfully so. Right now /v/ is filled to the brim with marketers
>>337563538
>>Complaining about the Glory kills
>>337563738
go back to your Brutal Doom forums, underaged.
>>337563467
don't listen to the hate, the gameplay is top notch.
Funny how most shitposters from yesterday are suddenly quiet as fuck about the game being slow and other lies spouted. Not as fast as first Doom with sprint but still fairly fast.
>>337563006
>with tons of cinematics.
So you admit to being a fucking retard that hasn't even played the game then?
>>337563538
>This shit list
Confirmed for having only watched gameplay videos at best. First of all, you can turn of the "Glow", the amount of enemies depend on the fucking difficulty so either you're a casual fucking babby or just shit at games, probably both and the "MP is gaylo tier shit" is only further proof you haven't played the game since you can customize the MP to have no loadouts, picksups and etc.
I mean, you don't have to like it, but at least stop with the fucking lying you lying piece of shit.
>>337563538
Sounds like you went in determined to hate it you salty Sally. Its been out for a day and you're complaining about no mods?
>>337563538
Mate, I've played D44M and Doom, The only difference between the two is the graphics and non-flat levels.
Having a blast, glory kills are only needed if you suck ass at the game and can't find ammo/health anywhere else.
Also, those 5 second cinematics where you pick up a keycard are tolerable, only a total sperg would get buttblasted from that.
>Some fucking robo guy handholds you through the game, via radio
There's literally no fucking handholding at all, he even tries to tell you what to do but Doom Guy just doesn't fucking care, like when he fucked up the filters.
But none of that would actually make sense to you since you haven't even played it yourself, torrent it and give it a try.
Btw, did you actually copypaste all your greentext from some other faggot on here or are you the other faggot that just spreads this to whatever thread he can find hoping that others gives a shit?
>>337563095
No it's not. Carmack's twitter he mentioned he worked a little bit on snap map long ago.
10/10 perfect. Would buy again.
10/10 perfect. Would buy again.
Can you pirate it yet? I'm not dropping $80 on this mess on a whim.
>>337563930
Just steam refund it if you dislike it. It's got Denuvo.
>>337563930
Dunno, didn't Doom have that new fancy anti-pirate shit? Denuvo, so you might not see a torrent for a while.
Steam refund is possible. You could buy it, refund it after trying it and then buy it cheaper on a site like Greenmangaming or some CD key cite.
Kudos for being a sensible consumer.
>>337563930
Hah, here in Australia land we have it for 69 dollars in Target. I dropped that much on a whim and I don't regret it at all.
>>337563984
>>337564087
Yeah, I'll give it a go. Cheers.
>>337564343
I'm playing it on a PS4 and not experiencing any crashes :^)
>>337564343
#1 reason consoles will never die.
>>337564343
Update your drivers you dumbass, Haven't crashed once.
>>337562831
It is like every other shooter, but with less shit.
It is fun, it is almost like Doom 2.
>>337564269
I'm from ɐilɐɹʇsn∀. I can grab it for $60 of GMG. But that's food for a week.
Perks of being a uni student.
>>337564434
this. Sony always wins baby!
>>337562831
>How do they do it?
<No regenerating health
<No chest high walls
<No QTE mashing
<Fast and fun multiplayer
Just to name a few reasons
>/v/ literally praising meme games
This board is dead
>>337564630
Its a Bethesda game, its cross promotion! Just a question, do you really get salty and dismissive when a video game references something from pop culture? Besides, all those old 2.5D shooters used to reference each-other in secret rooms.
>>337564823
>do you really get salty and dismissive when a video game references something from pop culture?
When it's my favourite franchise's body used for shameless marketing by the company who killed it in the first place. Yes I do.
>>337564630
Oh FUCK. BETHESDA REFERENCING THEIR OWN FRANCHISE, HUH?
>>337565090
I bet you suck your own dick too.
>>337565082
Wait, are you trying to say Bethesda killed Elder Scrolls? I don't think killed means what you think it does.
>>337565302
They Killed Doom.
>>337564630
Why is /v/ getting so butthurt over this?
Autism? Or do they just hate to be reminded of the fact Skyrim was a shit game?
>>337563538
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
Spider was last boss in Doom 1. Removing hitscan is good
>>337562831
>Doom
>saving anything
It was good at weeding out future school shooters and psychopaths with shit taste in games.
>>337562831
i'm about 2 hours in and i have to say this is the best shooter i have ever played, even better than the new order
>>337563895
>There's literally no fucking handholding at all, he even tries to tell you what to do but Doom Guy just doesn't fucking care, like when he fucked up the filters.
He still tells you what to do and then you go to that place to do something
>>337562831
Actually Doom back in the 90's killed several companies with established fanbases(together with Dune 2 that came later on).
Just finished the single-player, it was fucking great and really worth its' price, it's the best game in the past 10 years. Cannot wait to spend dozens of hours playing multiplayer with my bros, old-school is the new school.
>>337565349
No they didn't
>>337563895
>Mate, I've played D44M and Doom, The only difference between the two is the graphics and non-flat levels.
So you haven't played Doom, then.
>>337565776
dude you're in for a treat, the multiplayer is so fucking fun
Can anyone think of a fps earlier than Bethesda's Terminator? Motherfuckers at Id always get the credit for the genre.
>>337565816
You mean we*
>>337565860
The Elder Scrolls: Arena was the first ever first person view game, but I guess it isn't exactly a shooter.
>>337565837
I went straight for it and I had a blast, it's not the best thing out there but it's pretty good if you are into arena shooters.
>>337565860
Yes, Doom in 1993. Wolfenstein in 1992. Terminator was 1995
>>337565925
Terminator was 4 years older. Free roaming open ended map, drive any car, free movement. Way ahead of its time and no respect.
>>337566165
No no, this Terminator game. 1990.
>>337566315
Oh yeah my bad, I was looking at the wrong one
>>337566315
Is this the game that system shock 1 got its gui from?
>d44m sold so poorly shills still have to make spam new threads on 4chan
>>337562831
saved the gaming industry?
it needs to save it's own fucking multiplayer
>>337566370
I doubt it, the world seems to have forgotten it ever existed.
>>337562831
By making a proper sequel of Doom64 of course.
>>337563538
hahaha I saw the same greentext yesterday, you got that saved in a text file? lmao
>>337562831
How does who do what?
>>337563538
>I haven't played the game:The post
>>337563538
I see this list being greentexted in pretty much every Doom thread I go into, and so much of it is just blatant misinformation.
There are no cinematics at all, you start the game in first person, get your first gun 10 seconds into the game, and you never leave first person. A three second animation plays when you pick up key items, and so far I had one instance where I watched a character through a glass window and got some exposition at the end of the level, which lasted for about 30 seconds.
At the moment I'm at the fourth level of the campaign, and because I did some exploring I have already about 30 gun upgrade points and 70% of my arsenal is fully upgraded, so I don't really see how the upgrade system is bad.
The maps aren't linear at all, in fact there's lots of vertical exploration. Just look up some map screens of the game, I'm sure you can find them online somewhere. I don't even remember the last time I played a shooter that had such big and non-linear maps. There are always multiple paths to your objectives and you can basically go whichever way you want and still arrive where you want to go.
>>337563538
>everything glows
>bosses have HP bars
Nice bait, are you honestly telling me this is a problem that makes you hate the game? Come on faggot
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either
So?
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
well, what's the point of an upgrade system if all guns are as powerful as a BFG retard
4/10 bait, made me reply
>>337564508
>not eating white rice for a month to save some money
git gud
>>337563538
I'm utterly convinced anyone who complains about cinematics in DOOM have not only not played the game, but haven't even watched a stream to properly shit on the game. I've been playing for 4 hours, I've seen 3 "cutscenes" that were 2-4 minutes at MAXIMUM
>>337566867
Oh man I love the maps. I remember their attempts at 3D maps in the 90s before Half Life made every fps linear. So many headaches as a kid trying to decode the multilevel maps.
Two questions:
How much GB is the download? I have shitty connection
The physical copy is just a downloader or have the actual archives in it?
>>337567139
The download on Steam is a whooping 44GB, so if you have a shit connection, that might be a problem.
>>337563895
>glory kills are only needed if you suck ass at the game
Enjoy using mostly pistol.
>>337566874
>well, what's the point of an upgrade system if all guns are as powerful as a BFG retard
They don't need to be BFG powerful to be fun useful weapons
>>337567267
>>337567264
Well, fuck. Time to leave vidya.
You can tell who hasn't played DOS shooters when they say Doom 4 is faithful to them.
No, Doom didn't lock you into arenas and spawn enemies continuously like painkiller.
>>337567772
The new Doom doesn't lock you in arenas either.
>>337567772
but it did many a time lock you into "arenas" or just tiny rooms you can't leave till you kill shit. lots of e2/e3 missions come to mind and shit like tips and tricks or whatever the fuck it was called does too
i agree that it should have just spawned all the shit at once but it does make it a little more challenging because you have to be aware of whats going on even more so, like you can't just "plan" a room before you engage as in doom/2 anymore
>>337567359
they are required when you run out of ammo in arenas with chainsaw or want health, its a required game mechanic.
>>337567971
yes it does
the very first mission says "DEMONIC PRESENCE DETECTED LOCKDOWN INITIATED" or some shit until you kil them all within the first 30 seconds of playing the game, proving that you have no idea what you're on about
>>337567971
"Demonic presence detected. Lock down initiated."
Don't bullshit me. There are so many rooms with that shit.
>>337567989
They are in no way required. Enemies also drop health when you gib them, you never need to do any glory kills. You can also turn off the glowing outlines for glory kills in the options menu. Also, upgrading your ammo pool isn't expensive and you can do so very early on.
>>337568215
You shouldn't need to have to upgrade your ammo pool.
There shouldn't be upgrades at all.
>>337568313
Why?
>>337568313
>imblynig doom/2 didnt have the backpack
0/10 troll harder
Defend this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Z6brRhHWg
>>337568158
>>337568096
Have you played past the first level? Because that's the only instance where that happens, since the best way to teach players that they have to kill shit is to force them to do so with no means of escape.
>/V/
>WAS
>WRONG
>AGAIN
How surprising !
>>337568465
Yes. On the second level it happens again in the area before where you can flip a switch and climb up two storage containers to get armor where you first get the chainsaw.
>>337564630
You posted it again Rick. Nice job.
Is the snapmap thing any good?
>>337563738 >>337563823 >>337563875 >>337563895 >>337565450 >>337566668 >>337566732 >>337566867 >>337566874 >>337566984
all these marketers itt
>>337568424
Doom 2 didn't limit you to 20 shells at the start, a paltry amount. You could get by comfortably without upgrades, you can't in Doom 4.
>>337568096
>>337568158
>not wanting to kill all demons
>>337568465
>You need to teach people to kill enemies
Jesus fuck I hope you're trolling and not this retarded.
>>337567975
There are no killtriggers in the original Doom.
>>337568449
>that invisible wall on the elevated bridge
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>337568602
I never said I didn't. I just said it does in fact lock you into rooms that you can't escape until you do.
>>337568645
He probably is. He's a /v/edditor
>>337568685
tips and trikcs in doom 2 has it, or at least close, and i can tell you that for a fact as i just replayed doom2. theres a switch behind about 50 imps and 2 barons that you have to kill to get to since they block your way. no, you dont have to kill them all, but you have to kill a great majority. its not the exact same but its there. stop being such a nigger
>>337568602
>what is pacing
>what are options
>what is exploration
>what is speedrunning
>>337568576
I fail to see how the game is worse just because it does something differently than Doom 2. Finish the first level, click two things in the menu and you already have a higher ammo count. By the third level you can already have more ammo than you need. I've never run out so far, and even if you miss each enemy three times in the very first level, there's still enough ammo lying around.
>>337562831
>every E-celeb will say how good DOOM is
>even those who are praised on /v/
>/v/ will damage control saying that they never liked those E-celebs
>/v/ will search for ANY bit of negative information and there will be millions of threads like OOH THIS DUDE SAID HE DOSEN'T LIKE THIS LEVEL DOOM FAGS BTFO, OOOH SKYRIM JOKES, THIS GUN DOSEN'T LIKE THAT GOOD
Screencap this
>>337562914
mad pirate babby XD
>>337568827
THIS GUN DOSEN'T LOOK THAT GOOD*
Stupid mistake
>>337568778
It's not at all the same. You don't have to kill them all.
Stop talking about Doom as if you know it.
the new Doom is just another shitty party-time shooter
might as well play CoD
>>337568645
It's a basic rule of game design. You don't design games with the assumption that every player already knows what to do or is a veteran of the series or genre, and Doom's way of simply keeping the first door closed until you shot all the enemies is a very non-intrusive way to do so.
>>337568976
Nah
>>337568827
see, you issue is that you actually give a fuck about e-celebs as is evidenced by your post. /v/ is not one person. I never have and never will buy or not buy a game based on things like what totalfaggot says about it or whomever else you twitch idiots like nowadays.
>>337568972
I do. I've had a copy since 93. Suck my dick. I admitted it isnt the exact same, but the concept is close in that you have to wade through shitloads of them to get to the switch to get back out. I still have my original doom / doom 2 floppy discs you cockmongling faggot.
>>337569093
You don't even know the name of the goddamn map. You are absolutely convinced it's called Tips and Tricks.
The only original thing you have is a contract with Bethesda.
>>337568986
>stopping progression to teach something
>non-intrusive
You have a gun and enemies are trying to kill you. If you can't figure out what to do then you probably can't function as a human being anyway.
>>337569093
I don't care about e-celebs. I've seen every big relase and it's the same shit.
More popular more shitty
>>337568570
First time I've been called a marketer
>>337569178
No, I don't know the names of the maps off the top of my head. I will google it though, and you know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about and that I have a point.Tricks and Traps is a play on tips and tricks, and I am slightly dyslexic. Nonetheless, I did grow up with doom1/2, still have the floppies to prove it, and would again like you to suck my dick.
>>337569263
Sure thing, mate. I called you out on being wrong twice and all you could do was backpedal, call me a nigger, a faggot and to suck your dick.
It's pretty obvious none of your arguments have half a leg to stand on, and you're just making shit up as you go, hoping to win with aggression.
Problem is, you're arguing against a nigger cocksucking faggot who knows the original Doom inside out.
So kindly fuck off a go play your commercial flop that you seem to love so much.
>>337569194
>You have a gun and enemies are trying to kill you
Exactly, that's what the first few seconds of Doom are all about. How is that stopping progression?
What's the average play thru time on D44m? I know the series typically has quite a bit of replay value, any word on how fun it is to go back through it? Might be worth 60 buckaroos if the replay value is substantial.
>>337569864
10 hours here. I'm on the 7th level maybe. I've heard that there are 13 levels or something. I was exploring the maps,looking for secrets etc etc
>>337570065
not bad, that's honestly what i'd be doing. I usually end up exploring in just about any game that allows it anyway.
Bought this from CDkeys for $36
2 hours until it finishes downloading.
Is it really that good? Been ages since I played a really solid and fun FPS
>>337570339
It is fun. Decide if You want those glory kills or not. I belive You can turn them off. I've only seen option to turn off the glow. There are many enemy types.
>>337562831
>DOOM saved gaming industry
no it didn't
ill pick up the game of the year edition when its 2.99 during a steam sale.
>>337570807
You got something to look forward to in 2022 then.
>>337562831
Do you guys think we can get a new quake after this? It'd be pretty neat
4 Hours in right now. The shitty trailers and horrible MP-Beta didn't do the game justice.
My biggest complaint so far is the music, i expected some sweet shredding instead of "BWWOOOAAAAPPPP".
Let us hope that MP will get gud too.
>>337565372
>le epic autism maymay xD
/v/ hasn't had a new insult since 2012
Anyone else think the SSG in D44M sounds like shit? It just doesn't have that punch the Doom 2 one did
Doom 4™ is the best thing since sliced bread! It's the bees knees!
>>337563006
Have you even played the game faggot
>>337562831
shilling a game that you have to buy and not like the original pirate.
Fuck off todd!
>>337571219
The music does get pretty metal sometimes
It's pretty much exactly what I wanted Doom to be, just complete mayhem with oldschool mechanics. I mean shit, it's got actual large ass maps with secrets. It's been so long since I've played a game where exploration is fun.
Considering all the modern day trends that could have been put in, this is probably the best outcome for this game. It's pretty great. The lack of big cinematic cutscenes actually scares me, I'm so used to them jumping straight into gameplay is something I don't expect.
>>337563006
It's more like a Serious Sam or a Painkiller than whatever the fuck you're describing, Far Cry maybe?
>>337563095
are you fucking retarded? Carmack left id like 2 years ago.
It's exactly how the new Doom should have been, i'm actually amazed they got it right
this game should have had an hell level, a bunch of muslim's icons and it would have been a masterpiece
lost oppotunity
>>337573804
It does have Hell?
>>337566942
This, I've survived a whole month by just eating cup noodles so i can pay for vidya.
>>337564434
I bought it on the PS4 too and it had horrible screen tearing without the update.Rip and TEAR, alright.
>>337572389
What is cuck?
>>337567139
The physical has actual archives and its 11GB
>>337573804
>this game should have had an hell level
>DOOM
You're retarted
>>337568570
the more you're trying to fit in the more you out yourself
>>337568570
>Call out bullshit
>Get called a marketer
At this point it wouldn't surprise me if you weren't a shill paid to talk shit about a game. Especially since we mysteriously have a lot less people talking shit about it today.
Come on, where are all the fucktards that shouted that the game was slow and other shit yesterday, how it was CoD? I mean fuck, the game isn't a masterpiece but the amount of misinformation and outright lying about shit yesterday was very high.
>>337575043
> Especially since we mysteriously have a lot less people talking shit about it today.
After the game was released and people finally get to play it? I'm baffled by it too.
>>337575189
I know I know, it still astounds me how quickly the tone changed though. I'm used to shitposting but the amount of hate the game got right at the gate was even more than usual I felt.
I could be wrong though, I never visited the Metal Gear or Bloodborne thread so maybe they got the same amount of shit flung at them upon release too.
>>337574260
/Pol/ made that no?
>>337573864
yes it do
>people complaining the game is for console babbies
>game is old school as fuck
Just disable all the hints and stuff and you have a 90s action shooter with 2016 graphics. Learn to have fun.
>>337563276
>offline
how do you do it
