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This is /v/ in a nutshell.

I won't be surprised if this is how you guys actually play the game.
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I really don't get triggered by the typical taunt gestures like point down or welcome but any player doing legion etiquette needs to die in a fire.
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>>337332682
Then don't invade you stupid fuck.
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>>337332682
gank squads were a horrible idea, and I don't even invade

basically every invader now fights for the killreward with clenched teeth if you are alone, and if you have a phantom, you let them duel and they ALWAYS start jugging during the duel, making me attack too in the process. every encounter feels like this now, with the only variety after pontiff fight, where you will always get 2 invaders, no exceptions, thanks to superb balance covenant
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>invade
>Phantom's name is the name of mai waifu
>can't kill him
>let myself get killed
I can't do it, /v/. I can't lay a finger on anyone named Aoi. ;_;
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>>337333001
Legion Etiquette isn't even a taunt, it's the most polite gesture. Shitters should be allowed to use it though.
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>>337333416
*shouldn't
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>>337333001
I use Etiquette as a greeting when I greet people at all and repeatedly slam my Greatsword on the spot where they died, unless it was a very good fight and I go with Rest or Sleep instead.
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>>337333001
Gank squads clapping, pointing down, or squatting is fine with me. But that legion gesture with gank squads doing it? What the fuck.
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>>337332682
I remember doing this once in one of my Bloodborne playthroughs, and then we all simultaneously used the "make contact" emote over his corpse.

Good fun.
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>>337333001
>>337333867
it's the dark souls equivalent of saying 'gg' after a complete pubstomp
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>>337332682
go Aldrich then, you'll find lots of fair pevepe to your liking

>inb4 finger
>inb4 invaders cant invade solo players
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>>337333001

I always have this small feeling at the back of my mind that I look like a massive faggot while doing it to people.

I should keep doing it.
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>>337333370
Holy shit, seriously?
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Ganking is the new "being a dick" move. In the past invaders werethe dicks.

As someone who relished ruining other peoples fun, i have started to join gank squads as opposed to invade.
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>>337333370
Well at least youre dedicated
Why not think of it as them impersonating them, shouldnt that make you want to kill them
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Remembers when you had the power over everyone?

NOT ANYMORE.

Enough with preying on the weak, we all gathered, we are stronger together than you will ever will be.

I love your tears, twink babies, it just shows that the only reason you won was because you had your odds stacked against us. Doesn't feel good now, does it?

I can't wait for all of you to send me love mails about how I am a ganker or shitter because I use the estoc or dark sword.

GIT GUD, SKRUBS AHAHAHA!
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>>337337329
>implying ganks werent around since the beginning
thats why gank spanking is so satisfying
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>>337332682
what's this fashion i like it
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>>337337329
Not with 4v1, they weren't.
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>>337337746
fuck, meant to reply to >>337337573
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>>337337746
Yeah but that doesnt make a difference really when they still suck.
Like that one guy in the catacomb sewer area with that host that kept summoning his friends back over and over
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhTnCCuHuwA

I bet whoever this invader was came and cried about it on /v/.

Invaderfag tears are the most delicious kind.
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>>337338107
>dark sword
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>>337338197

>Like I give a fuck

It was a NG++ trophy run, what the fuck else am I gonna use with 40str 40dex. High level Souls is fucking retarded, if you invade at that level you should expect it to be retarded.
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Invasions are so stacked against invaders now. I guess that's why shitters are feeling a bit more bold.
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>Do Havel build
>"fuck yeah i'm just going to run straight into the middle of gank squads and fuck them up"
>can't swing without getting staggered
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>>337338280
That wasnt situational enough anon
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>>337338280
Working as intended
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>>337338280

MORNE'S HAMMER BITCH GRAB IT WHILE IT'S STILL HOT.

I fucking hate IronPineapple or whatever for popularizing this weapon, it was my nice cozy niche. I guess WotG with Poise cast is still pretty uncommon.
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>>337338280

>The poise stat is working as intended and is not ‘turned off’ as some fans have theorized,” a spokesperson for Bandai Namco told me. “The stat works differently than in past games and is more situational, which seems to be the reason for the confusion.

>They're never going to turn on poise
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>>337338257
>trophy run

Looks like you are helping your gay lover to me.
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>>337338537
Good.
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>>337338637

Yeah, get trophies. You want to see what I usually do, look at my other videos. I spent hours invading the swamp at like level 25 with a fucking Int rapier build.
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>>337338280

Everything is working as intended, why not try using a straightsword? :^)
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>>337338679
>I hate build diversity
Enjoy the straight sword/estoc meta
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>>337338498
>NHK manga
jesus christ i had managed to forget about this now i remembered how soul-crushing it is thanks anon now i am considering ending my own life
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>>337339045
I've seen a lot of variety in SL100-120 so I'm perfectly fine where I am thanks.
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>>337338107

>mfw every time I get killed by some bullshit I think to myself "maybe they'll upload this to Youtube to mock me and feel proud of themselves later" and laugh it off
>mfw your post

It's the little things.
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>>337338280

>made a character specifically for havel
>93 vit
>fast roll
>staggered by literally everything
>can barely hit anyone because of I frames


Such is the pain of Havel the Rock.
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>>337339112
>plenty of variety
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>337332682
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>>337339156

>Implying I feel proud of pressing R1

I uploaded it to youtube because it was hilarious.
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>>337339234
Yep. All I've seen in these SLs are GS/UGS users, Whip, Bows( I don't understand but ok), Pyros mostly, doesn't work but whatever. And lastly a few Sorceries, but they always have ganks squads with them.

I'd invade some Dark Sword and Estocs users maybe around 2 out 10? Seems like they learned they just get parried anyway by just using those weapons so the opt to use UGS 2handed so they can't be parried.
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>>337339080
hey man just hang in there anon
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>use witches locks
>spam weapon art and the wide heavy swing
>watch as shitters still try and parry it with the caestus
>feel joy again as they all burn

It's tricky to learn to use it properly, but it's uncommon enough they never know what to do about it. Supplement with some freeaim pyromancy and it's legit as hell
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>>337338280

The only way you're going to walk into the middle of gank squads is with perseverance and iron flesh.
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>>337339683
Nah Iron flesh wont work, Theyll just back away until its gone. Or if theres 3 theyll just surround you and keep swinging until youre dead.
Perseverance on the black knight sword is really good though, It helps me handle ganks pretty well
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>>337332682
What torso ? I like the fashion
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>>337339045
Hyperarmor is what creates build diversity, without it everything you will see is dark sword users in full havel poisetanking anything.
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There's usually good fight clubs held just after the pontiff bonfire in the small courtyard.

Been having fun watching dark spirits duel and then jumping in to take on the victor
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>>337333001
It's literally the fedora tipping of dark souls
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>>337332682
i can't help but laugh at that
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>>337338537
That's great to be honest.
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>invade as a grapist
>kill 3 phantoms or host for shackle
>everytime
>kill dark spirit
>kill aldrich faithful
>the ganksquad finally finds me as I'm rumbling with a darkmoon
>murder me instantly

Getting shackles is suffering
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>>337340578

Don't do it for the shackles, just embrace being an agent of chaos. Even if you can't win, just take pleasure in being the wild card, man.
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>>337333001
Nothing wrong with it, other than taking 5 minutes to complete. Legion etiquette and by my sword are the best greetings, way better than some weeaboo bowing.
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>>337340578

>Not teaming up with the guys against the host and then picking off anyone that's weak in the chaos
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>>337332682
>mfw there are people who think doing this is fun
>mfw there are people that spend all day doing this thinking it is fun

>Lol xd we totally won against this guy who had no hope of even fighting back xd we are so good at this game
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>>337333001
>Invade a host and run up to him as another invader kills him before I get there
>Face towards the host as he collapses and do legion etiquette anyways
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>>337332682
welcome to the new /v/
most are below 18
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I'm lvl 35 with +4 weapons, can I get any Blue Sentinel/Dark Moon action with these levels? Is the auto summon bound to the area where your character currently is?
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>>337340992
It's the same with twinking.

I don't know how people can enjoy invading people and one-shotting them because they have way better gear.
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>>337340992

Posts like this are the reason WHY it's fun. Stay buttmad.
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>>337341128
People thing you are an idiot is fun to you?
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>>337340276
Someone ?
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>>337341053

Auto summon I think prioritizes your area but you can get summoned anywhere, I've been summoned to fight off aldrich loyals while I was going through the irithyl dungeons.

Just treat blue sentinel as something you leave on while progressing, sitting there and waiting will take forever.
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>>337341189

No, the fact that it bothers you enough that you have to come and cry about it on a forum is fun to me.
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>>337340992
it's not the satisfaction from winning

it's the satisfaction from them being mad
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>>337341128
wow what a badass
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>>337341349
I just did Aldrich and it's really tedious doing PvE with this low level character. I just want the covenant rewards without farming silver knights 6h like I did with my first character.

Doing a faith character is pure fucking suffering in DaSIII.
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>>337341189

cmon son it's the same thing as invading in DS1 you only do it to be a dick and ruin other peoples fun.
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I embrace the gank squads because there is nothing more satisfying than killing a hosts phantoms and seeing him flee like a little bitch back to the bonfire to summon more and dying while "unable to summon" pops up on the screen.
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>>337340952
Nobody even tries teaming up with a purpal. Everyone attacks them on sight in my experience. Go for the lone invaders, the ganksquad will just kill you.
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>>337342042

What I was saying was make friends with the invaders while when the time's right turn on everyone, well I haven't had too much grape invasion experience so I don't know how it goes, the only experience I had doing it was just me invading into ganks.
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>>337332682

Why is DaS3 full of ganksquads while DaS1 and 2 didnt have them? Invasions work the same game. You can get invaded if you are in ember(human)form.
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>>337338537
Its retarded because people with computers have found its turned off...
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>>337342409

It prioritizes hosts with phantoms I think, you won't often get solo invasions unless the host decides to use the finger.
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>>337342409
Honestly? Because FROM made sure that the host has all the advantages when someone invades. That's it really. As early as undead settlement, you can have 3 summons available for you.
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>>337342409
changes to healing and summoning, and a shift in attitude in players possibly?
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>>337342580

Not to mention the detail where hosts use the finger so they can summon more phantoms thus prioritizing themselves.
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That webm is so damn satisfying, nothing gives me more joy than to see invaders getting BTFO.
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>>337332682
When will poise be turned on?
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>>337338107
Nice build homie. I'll sub if u link me 2 the guide you used.
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>>337332682
The absolute funnest way to play is summon 1 (ONE) phantom and pop dried fingers and run through the level like normal. If you're in watchdog or Aldrich territory, equip way of blue or summon a second phantom and leave it at that. I went through Cathedral with a single bro and we wrecked several invaders in 2v2s. I use seeds when invaders waste our time and hide or try to use enemies against us even when it's 2v2. I actually sometimes go through areas solo with dried fingers with way of blue to let them get some action but I don't get invaded as much.
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>dick ass invaders
>having hard time
>ABLOO ABLOO
>instead they could just be a dick ass gank squadder
you choose the wrong path, lonley internethero
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What is the best melee ring combination?
I'm using ring of favor, Champ gundyr chain, ring of steel protection and Carthus milkring.
It works fine for my Lothric knight greatsword but uh.
Should i swap RoSP with a lightning clutch ring and use lightning blade to boost it further?

Atm i just use carthus flame arc because it's cheap, and the split damage is nice against shields.
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>Equip blessed gear
>Go to swamp
>Dry finger
>Curl up in a good open spot
>Watch invaders run past for hours while i sit and eat my lunch
>Meanwhile help Darkmoons and Blue Guardians so they have something to do
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>>337343682
>Invade an innocent ashen one
>Want to fuck his shit up and ruin his progress
>He summons a phantom
>Stagger the shit out of me while he chugs estus like crazy

>WOOOOOW FROMSOFT WHAT THE FUCK DaS3 SUCKS, THIS SHIT IS FULL OF GANKSQUADS.

This is how dickwraiths moans sounds.
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>>337338537
What are the odds that this is just damage control and that they'll patch it in?
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>>337343974
>ruin his progress
>most summon signs are at the beginning of a zone.
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What's better, Executioner's Greatsword at 40 STR or Flamberge at 15/14?
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>>337343764
The Lothric Greatsword lighting damage is just a bonus, Dont concentrate on it, Get a bunch of resins instead, They're only 500 a piece.
>Carthus Milkring
>On a greatsword build
Use Cloroanthy ring or Knightslayer Ring, Alternatively use Hornet and oneshot bitches who try to r1 spam you.
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>>337343896
thanks for giving me work desu senpai
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>>337344287
>C scaling in DEX
>Use grass crest shield
Forgot to add that.
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>>337343896
>Mad spirits profit from this as well
you
i like you
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>>337343974
yeah, for me it was more like
>first playthrough
>gave all tongues to rosalia
>none left for leonhardt, he gone, no red eye orb
>only cracked ones
>want to collect more tongues
>start to invade with cracked orbs
>give up after 5 ganksquads

they really should bring back being invaded while hollowed, just with lower priority
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>>337339230
What a shame, that sounds like a huge Hassle.
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>>337343896
It's stupid how you can completely negate poison with passive regen. Poison worked best in DaS2/BB where it did high damage but didn't last very long so it was an immediate threat that needed dealing with.
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>>337344397
Well if you have the shield on your back constantly i can only recommend Horsehoof ring to instantly break turtles so you dont waste as much stamina, Just trust me when i say that the 10% damage taken increase from the clutch ring is NOT worth it just to boost the lighting damage of your sword by like 15%
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>>337338107
>Look I killed a guy by pressing R1 with one of the meme weapons! Hilarious!
You're lame as shit lmao
>Playing as a girl on top of it
Faggot.
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>>337332682
>ITT I hate it when people don't play the game like I want them to!
>ITT I want to invade and win, it's not fair!
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> Invading others for funsies
> Most fights are one-on-one
> Most people don't heal or they lead chase to a bonfire
> Respect them and don't heal either/let them run
> Every now and then come across a gank squad
> Taunt them from a distance
> They run over
> Rolly-backie-ayelmao
> They go to flank
> Black crystal outta there
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>>337344741
Amazing.
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>>337338536
Yeah, cuz it's shit.
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>>337344629
Not even with the natural lightning + Sunlight blade?
Alright.
At the moment i'm using ring of steel protection to nullify the prisioner's chain the increased damage and still being able to use lightweight armor and achieving that 20% damage absorption.
But yes i like your recommendations, i'll try them out, but i'll probably fail a lot since i can't parry that well, and i feel like if i fail a kick i'll fuck up badly.

And yes, i have the shield on my back.
I only swap it when i need to buff my UGS with fire or parry with caestus.
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>Get summoned by a host who summons more than one Phantom
>Eventually we get invaded
>Try to communicate between everyone that I'll fight him one on one
>They all gangbang his ass
I tried.
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Are parries easier in ds3? I have come across a few gank squads and just spammed parry and won. I literally just spam parry without regards to the timing and it just works.
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>>337345380

I think the timing is all different now, I don't know the specifics myself.
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>>337345206
>try to be nice and do that too
>invader is using estoc
>join in on gangbang
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>>337344828
>get softbanned for black crystaling too much
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>>337344828
you got really lucky then, cause 90% of my invasions were ganksquads - and I did around 100 invasions

glad youre enjoying the game tho, at least one of us is.
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>red invades
>purple invades
>red and I fuck purple up
>red bows and leaves my world peacefully
For some reason everyone hates purples and they immediately pull all the aggro on themselves.
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>>337332682
Because invaders are annoying as fuck. Fuck you.
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>>337343896
i did the same but the woods

just seed + finger and way of the blue and let the blues 1v1 the reds

most of the blue's lost kinda sad ;_;
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>>337340276
Pretty sure its assasins
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I actually like gank squads.
It's probably the best way to git gud.

And a lot of the time the host will stand back and you 1v1/2 his phantoms.

I still lose way more than I win but it's still fun.
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>>337345579
Maybe it's because I'm playing on __PS4__
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>>337337329
>you had your odds stacked against us
this hasn't been the case since DS1, and even then only kinda
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>>337345460
>invading another world
>host waiting at the bonfire for honorabru duel
>invading another world
>seeded world with ganksquad
>invading another world
>host hiding behind 2 phantoms in the bonfire room
>invading another world
>le funny gesture naked guy

Why is it so rare to have an actual invasion in this game? I don't mind 1v4 if I'm invading when they're right in the middle of the area and I can use the whole map to plan my attack, it's the most fun you can get.
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>>337340992
This isnt that much worse than twinking
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>>337345647

Play offline. You shouldn't even need phantoms.

GIT GUD
I
T

G
U
D
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>>337345460
The timing isnt flat across all shields like the other games. Medium shields have a delay compared to smaller shields which are faster and the caestus which is instant.

Startup is independent of the extra frames added by the parrying dagger and buckler, ive found that both are slower than the caestus
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>>337332682
at least you can play with others

>meanwhile revolt online is dead
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>>337344741
Holy shit this is gold.
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Who /ruiningfightclubs/ here?
Also how to make a webm that over 20 seconds but not shitty quality?
Magic is also pretty fucking fun in this game with the Soul Greatsword, Farron Flashsword and Dark Edge, works great 1v1. Obviously this isn't though.
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>>337338537
>From implements DaS1s Poise, remembers everyone hated it, turns off Poise instead of just ripping the Poise system from DaS2
>Leaves the stat in-game, it doesn't work, several items increase a stat that has no affect on anything and does nothing

Inb4huurhyperarmorispoise
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>Invade another person's game
>In order to fuck with them while they're trying to progress PvE
>Usually with a twink build designed to snert
>Using all kinds of meta knowledge and wiki stats
>At zero risk to your game or your souls
>The invaded player might lose a lot of souls/progress
>Expect them to be fair =^) and honorable =^) duel pls

You obviously don't understand how this works, so I'm just going to say get fucked kiddo.
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>>337345623
Purples have no allegiance, they're back black and white, not friend nor foe
They're out for themselves and there's no telling when they'll turn on you
Better to just kill them
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>>337344741
I don't even know what to say.
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I never really got salty in this game at all until i started doing end game PVP and found out everybody, everybody is ganking.

Okay even then I wasn't getting salty... it was the taunting after killing me that got me salty. Why are you taunting? You have not accomplished anything. Usually you got your ass beat and had to run away and summon more dudes while I kill your third friend, and then when I finally am put to rest you taunt me like you just wrecked my dickhole off?


Additionally, if I have to kill five phantoms and then the host pulls the plug when I go to riposte him, I should get *some* kind of reward, fuck you from.
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AYO HOL UP
*adjusts Dark Sword*
IS YOU SAYING
*summons more phantoms*
WE WUZ
*instinctively looks around for invaders*
SOME FINNA
*uses Seed of Giant Tree*
GANK SQUAAAAAAAD?
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>>337344741
>revealing his fat face at the end

Perfect
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>>337332682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUfdHeFum0

I'm just gonna leave this here- because it seems topic related totally not pandering for views here.
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>>337346050
Wrong webm
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>>337336347
Aldrich Faithful give no fucks. Everybody is fair game
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>>337345206
Every time
>tfw you just go ahead and clear mobs and the host and the other phantom gets killed by the invader
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>>337346153
>people actually believe this

Yeah because I want to kill 3 targets instead of 1, sounds great.
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>Cathedral of the Deep, giants room
>Invade one of those faggot redditors summoning escorts to carry them through the level
>Crossbow them from the ledge, staggering them as they fight the giants
>They try to bait me out
>Fuck you nigger I'll sit here all day
>Host runs all the way back to the bonfire to summon another fluffer after I got one killed
>They spend 45 minutes trying to beat the giant and get past me shitting up the arena
>Finally get past the cathedral knights on my side
>Black Crystal

I'm glad I made his life harder
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>invading in the catacombs with a greatbow
>spawn next to another invader with a greatbow pelting a lone host
>we just gang up on him in the end
I really wish I knew what happened prior. Funnily enough was using the bkga.
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>>337345647
He's deliberately putting down a summon sign for consensual battle
I know you're saying that to annoy people, but I'm saying this on principle that others will think you're right

Summoning into a gank is cancer, if you do it, you're cancer
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>>337338537
Bandai Namco confirmed for a bunch of Estoc shitters
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>>337345867
At no point did I say any of that. Every pvp encounter turns into invaders running into mobs and chugging estus. Stay dank my memer.
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the number of butthurt invaderfags this shit has created is incredible.
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>>337333416
Wrong, waving is the most polite gesture
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>>337346248
Absolute madman
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>>337332682
Git gud
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>>337346430
What else do you want people to do against hosts and their 3v1 squads spamming ebin gestures

I feem that the speed of Estus really deteriorates this game's PvP. It's nigh unpunishable, you can move while doing it, and the heal is almost instant.
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So where can I turn in my boss souls after Ludleth dies?
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>>337346442
There are items in the game locked behind invading, grinding through at times, 5v1 situations to get 1/30th of progress towards it, is endlessly frustrating and boring. When every other game is a guy instantly pulling his plug because he doesn't want to play offline but doesn't want to be invaded, or whatever, then you'd be butthurt too.

The reason why invading got worse and worse was because of people like you crying over the game being too hard and now one of the defining traits of the franchise is pointless.
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>>337346185
The fuck is "finna"
I don't understand niggerspeak.
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>>337346727
Still Ludleth.
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>>337346727
Just examine his charred corse.
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I invaded in 3 more than any other game because I didn't feel about it.
Invaders are the underdogs now.
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>>337346805
>>337346815
Oh fuck me

thanks tho
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>try to coop with other players

hurdur stahp I cant gank you, if you summon u sux

>play solo

hurdur come online so I can gank ur ass faggot, its a multiplayer experience
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>>337346889
You can also take the ring that he leaves but it's not really that useful.
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>>337332682
>invading in the archives

there's a 100% chance you were just going to hide behind the priests until they waxed the phantoms, you deserve it faggot
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>hiding in post-pontiff area with white branch
>found a wonderful spot nobody ever checks
>a red actually gets near me but still doesn't notice
>he stands near the edge of a ledge looking around for me not realizing I'm directly behind him disguised as a statue
>have seed on too. he gets hit by a silver knight greatarrow
>gets pushed back even closer to me
>now is the time
>charge DSGA L2
>right as he's getting up he takes the full force of the hit and dies

Must've been pretty embarrassing
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>>337346949
>try to coop

Yeah a host and two phantoms hanging around at a bonfire waiting to gank invaders is some nice coop
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>>337346223
Who is that annnouncer?
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>>337347067
stanley parable from dota 2
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>>337332682
>not raping gankers with your trusty Spiked Mace Spin2Win with Carthus Rouge for oneshotting
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>>337346949
The problem is people like you are what made from nerf invading into the ground until it was just not fun.

An invader might have to fight 6 phantoms in a row before he even gets to see you summoning more and there's no limit on that. You have 15 estus flasks, he has 4. You can turn all of the AI against him, if you're using the dried finger to summon three white phantoms at a time, then the two reds can accidentally hit each other, purples can hit each others/reds, and then the blues will counterinvade the reds/purples. etc. etc. etc.

The odds are so far stacked against invaders at a level that it's never been before. Also, that's not what ganking means.

Ganking is purposefully summoning in invaders while you have a team of phantoms with you, so that you have an unfair advantage against them.
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>>337346545
I've had some pretty wacky moments.
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Why are giant seeds so common, goddamn.

>invade
>1 vs. 3, as usual
>I'll wait for another invader/ an aldrich faithful to show up to even the numbers
>the three buttbros are sitting there right next to the bonfire spamming the welcome gesture
> wait for like a minute
>giant seed

Everytime.
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>>337338280
Havel is dead.
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>>337347820
-every time- you get invaded there's a 50/50 change a giant seed got spawned, this is 100% on some NPC invaders.

That's why. Seriously just don't even bother invading outside of the designated zones.
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>>337346757
I think that was supposed to be kinna.
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>>337347841
Nothing is funnier than destroying RP fags.
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Anyone done a SL1 run? Is multiplayer active?
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>>337348230
Does steady chant affect homing soul mass when you cast it or when it hits?
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Just throw on the obsuring ring and wait for them to get bored and split up or more invaders to join. The whole point of invading is to ruin their fun anyway. If they're retarded enough to go through the level just pick the worst choke point and slap their shit in. Hurr durrr what about seed, it still attacks them as well just be smart.
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>>337348230

>destroying

you're not destroying anything, you are cheesing him with those gay stars around your head and running to him hoping he won't recover so you can stunlock, scrub.
he's a shitter too for not just dodging that that.
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There are very easy ways to deal with gankers, especially because most are dumb rushers.
Spiked Mace with Carthus Rouge two handed R1>L2>R2 spin2win

Morne's Greathammer weapon art spam, bonus if close to edges to send enemies flying into their deaths

Black Night Halberd
R1 > L2 > R2 spin2win
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>Invaders get mad they can't farm free shit anymore from hosts with their gay twink builds

Apex kek
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I need more purple guy shenanigans.
Infinitely the most amusing addition.
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>>337348230
Farron flash sword only stuns for a couple of hits, that dude was an idiot for trying to hit you after every one instead of just rolling away
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>Be a grapist
>they use seed
>draw monsters over to them with it

They make things easier, not harder i don't know why people complain about them
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>>337348570
>cheesing
>with magic
>in Dark Souls 3
top kek, melee is so much better in this game it's funny
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>>337343315
"Ganking" with a single friend in a dried fingered Crucifixion Woods is some of the most fun PvP I've had in this game. Lots of 2v2's with occasional 2v3 or 3v3 depending on the pace of reds/watchdogs and blues/dorkmoons. 5/5 would recommend.
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>>337338107
>Nameless King Chest with any headpiece but the Xanthous Crown or Nameless King Headpiece


Fucking disgusting, why do people throw so much shit that doesn't even remotely match together and call it "Fashion"
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>>337348370
You have to do it before it hits, I usually don't bother casting it before the beacons since I don't rely on them much.
>>337348570
>Magic
>Cheese
Please, you're a fucking idiot. Magic actually takes a modicum of though in DS3. Melee spam is the cheese. That guy was a legitimate shitter and I killed him in under 8 seconds, stay upset.
>>337348712
I know, he was terrible. It's still funny though.
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>>337332682
>Not hanging around the road of sacrifices with two friends
>Not proc'ing Dried Knuckles and absolutely laying out everyone until you can no longer fight

It's like you guys don't want to have fun
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>>337348773

that's why he's using a sword while having that homing soul mass to start a fight and proceed with the stunlock or "just in case".

>melee is so much better

yeah because my greatsword wastes 40% of stamina on one hit with ~400 damage (while being slow), while a bloody katana does ~380 damage while wasted 25% of stamina.
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>>337349076
Magic doesn't take much thought, because you're never going to land any of the spells except for the two sword spells as a surprise finisher. Homing soulmass is okay for applying pressure, at the very least you force them to roll so you can hope to catch the few vulnerability frames after
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>>337349076
*before you cast it rather, the homing beacons.
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Remember how Lautrec, one of the biggest assholes in the series, was ganking people in the original Dark Souls?

And now how From encourages it?
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>>337349184
Farron Flashsword is a spell you fucking moron.
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>>337349235
Magic certainly takes more thought than melee
>r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
I've played most builds at high level pvp, I started with quality. I enjoy using magic because it's highly situational.
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>>337349713
Magic is still R1 except it never hits due to being slow and predictable

If you're lucky there's a lot of lag so it hits even if the soul arrows doesn't connect
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>>337338768
>int rapier
GTFO shittie. Your a r1 spamming twinkle
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>>337349845
Except it isn't R1 because if you're a good player you keep it unpredictable and mix up your spells.
Lag also makes shit not hit, it doesn't make it better as a magic user.
See
>>337346050
My spells fly right through him and he hits the air 10 feet away from me and it damages me.
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What is even the point of acid spray
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The last thing you see before you kill the host are those 4 perfect words:

"Unable to summon phantom"
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i got summoned into a "ganksquad" as a blueberry. it was Undead Settlement and they were on the tower. one guy was named Rok the Shield, the other guy was shooting the invader with dragonslayer, i would walk my character up to the top point of the tower and just stare down, while the Rok poked and the other guy sniped.
9/10 times the invader would come try to kill me because i would just randomly shoot soul arrows at them, like a tricky level.
after each kill we would each go back to our spot and sit/stand and wait for the next invader and repeat this over and over until my pact was kept.
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Is Boulder Heave any good?
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>>337350896
There is no point at all in any kind of offensive magic in Dark Souls 3, especially after they nerfed Great Chaos Fireball
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>>337347665
madman
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>>337346357
You would be that faggot wouldn't you
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>Summon people
>They R1 spam all enemies/invaders
>If they die I just resummon them
>Went through the entire game like this

Feels good man
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>>337351719
No, and the same can be said for all offensive spells.
Sacred Flame has some potential in pvp but you'll only ever catch literal shitters with it, and you'll only one shot people if using that glitch
It's ridiculous how magic is basically: GHSA spam if sorcerer, GCFB spam if pyro
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That doesn't even look fun. I mean they're just standing there waiting for someone to pop in, then they run up to him and push a button to make him dead. Seems like a waste of everyone's time
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>>337337329
>5 characters
>over 500 tongues,human dregs and redbro medals
LMAO
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>>337352171
>and the same can be said for all offensive spells.
Ignore this guy, he's retarded.
>GCFB
>Not vestiges
Yeah you're a mega retard, don't try to give advice.
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>>337352276
most of them are children and children are easily amused
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>>337349713
yeah, only scrubs use the attack button in a fight lmao
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Does the old wolf curved greatsword stack with the pontiff rings?
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>someone invades me in farron
>dude just r1 spams with memesword
>parry and one-shot

>another guy invades while i'm on cathedral roof
>he tries to do le epic spin4thewin
>ends up spinning down to his death

Invadercucks are funny, they can't even 1v1 when given the chance
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>>337333001
I think you mean:
>any player doing legion etiquette after gangfucking somone on their spawn point between three fucking battle tank
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>>337348996
I think it looks good with certain hoods. Gives off a wanderer vibe.
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>>337336347
There's two NPC invaders in that area too, maybe they dropped in as well.

(and no, not talking about the full colours at the end of the giants run)
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>>337333001
I only point down after killing an invader. Invading someone and taunting them after killing them is just a dick move.
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>>337352014
Why not just watch a youtube playthrough if you're gonna get someone to beat the game for you?
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>>337332682
I don't see how this is much different from invading scrubs who have never pvp'd in their life.
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>>337352487
605.
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OFFICIAL GESTURE POWER RANKINGS:

1. PROPER BOW
2. WAVE
3. SLAV SQUAT
4. SPREAD OUT
5. BY MY SWORD
6. PATH OF DRAGON
7. CALL OVER
8. ALL THE REST


9999999999. LEGION ETIQUETTE
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>>337348890
Actually I get ganked by invaders of all things in the woods. I've died several times to 1v2s because there's no one to summon, and no blue comes to help. I must be a godsend to watchdog faggots since they're finally not on the receiving end
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>>337338536
>>337344935
At 70 strength with tears of denial, you are as antil gank as you can get in this game, you will kill at least 1, its not shit. Just do it
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>>337353648
you need help for 1v2?you are the host so you have more hp and more flasks.
fucking scrub
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>>337348996
>Fallen Knight Helm
>Nameless King Torso
>Any leather gloves
>Any brown/black pants (no metal)

That's my fashion
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Why did they make parrying other players so easy this time around? They fixed backstabs but then give us this shit.
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>>337352553
>Vestiges
Literally the easiest thing to dodge
GCFB can actually catch people if free aimed, especially due to the lave puddle it leaves, not to mention also being far better for pve as it hits most enemies twice
As for sorceries:
Soul Stream will only ever work if you are cheesing with obscuring ring + binocular and the host is a retard. Shit damage against enemies and bosses for the stamina/fp cost/slow ass charge
CSS and normal Soul Sear do little damage over GHSA compared to the super increase in Stamina and FP cost and once again, only hit retards that can't dodge for shit
Farron sword deals shit damage compared to an upgraded weapon that swings at pretty much the same speed
Homing Soulmass will only ever hit retards and has awful casting time, unlike DSII it also procs at super duper long range now making it even easier to dodge
At least they upgraded the soul shower like spell that serves to put minor pressure now
Magic is objectively worse than melee in this game and it's a simple fact.
Not to forget the fact you don't need to split Estus, can spam weapon arts forever with just a Simple infusion due to the whole 1 FP being enough, don't need 3 fucking rings to do respectable damage, most retarded reverse scaling possible, have weapons that can actually hold your hand from the beginning to the end of the fucking game with minimal stat investments like Astora Sword as opposed to having to wait until mid-late game to find good spells and rings, can stunlock 90% of enemies with R1 spam.
One can only wonder why they didn't outright remove magic if they willingly made it this atrocious, the stamina costs for example are hilarious, FROM can't balance for shit
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oh no its 2 enemies, how will i ever win?!
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I understand the Gank squad rage but If you're unable to play smart and separate the host from his gay lovers you may as well retire your red orb

Also UGS>>>>memesword desu
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>>337353832
>fallen knight anything
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>>337353639
Wave + moving around
Clap + moving around
are objectively the best to spam to collect tears.
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Honestly invading into a gank squad and then somehow killing the host while all the phantoms watch you squat over his corpse is the best invasion moment I've had in any dark souls game.

That or killing the host phantoms over and over again and then ganking them with another invader.

Fuck I think the ganks make invasions more fun.
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>>337351661

holy shit i had an identical experience as a bluefag with the same guys, got like 7 concords
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>>337353791
More flasks doesn't meant shit when you have two people catching your rolls
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>invade with a plus 2 brigand axe as a wolf of farron
>dude I invade only takes 15 damage per swing
Someone explain this bullshit to me
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>>337354143
Wave while spinning around in a 360 as fast as possible is the best emote for all situations.
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>>337344828

>That pic

Thats exactly how I expected Yohrm to be but nope he was a manlet. Or a giantlet whatever.
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>>337353985
>/v/ told me fallen knight set is le meme
>HAHAH FALLEN KNIGHT ANYTHING UR A FAG AYYLMAO
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>>337353928
And how are you suppose to do that when all the enemies in the area are already dead and they stick to the host like glue at all times?
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You go out of your way to make a pvp build designed to kill other players. You invade another player's world fully knowing that they don't want this.
You go in with the full intention of ruining their progress and fun in the game. The host and his friends spread your asshole open in self defense.

And some how... you believe that you're the victim?

If you can't handle it, don't invade, faggot.
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>>337354446
>FALLEN KNIGHT ANYTHING UR A FAG AYYLMAO

Thanks for confirming.
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>>337336347
That Dark Moons can't counter invade Aldrich Faithful here without Way of Blue is fucking retarded.
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>Want to do PVP in the Crucifixion woods
>Literally every invader is just "HURR RUN BEHIND THE CRAB"
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>invade
>host drinks all his estus expecting me to do the same
>hang out near enemies watching his disappointment

It's an invasion, not fair duel time.
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>>337342781
when you become a darkwraith
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>>337353927

>Cheap meme weapons

Epic
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>>337333370
Donut bitch is a filthy whore.
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>>337354772
Go kill the crabs and then kindle, they're fuck easy if you're not a snail
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Should I +10 the cathderal great sword, the zweihander or +5 Dragonslayer axe?

Already have +5 fugs and +5 yhorms machete.

How many slabs can I get anyway?
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>>337354684
I was hiding in Irithyll with fingers last night to help out some blueberries. Would get 3 invaders within a minute but took 10-20 minute for a blue to show up. And on top of it there would only be a single on at a time.

Shits broke as fuck.
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>>337354772

>Not having seeds for that occasion

Fucking retard.
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>>337354869
DSGA is the shit. My new weaponfu.

You can get up to 8 slabs per NG cycle.
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>>337354869
There are a fuck load of slabs in each playthrough

I found four in my first playthrough, but I know there are more
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>>337351719
Boulder heave can be good situationally. You can use it facing away and then change direction at the end, which works pretty well and lands decently if they were chasing you. Black serpent works alright too.
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>>337333001
Welcome/my thanks are the best greetings.

The bow spectrum are versatile for greetings and deaths, and collapse is the best gesture if your opponent put up a good fight.
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>It's a "Guy with BKGA and caestus in the off hand mashes L2" episode
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>>337355051
Hot damn I've only got 4 of them so far thanks for the heads up.

Yea dsga is pretty hype. I've been using fugs because I can two shot a lot of people around sl80 but actually landing the weapon art with the dsga is hilarious.
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>invaders can now estus
>you don't get a free full estus refill after beating an invader without phantoms
Pretty shit. Once got invaded by a watchdog, an NPC and another watchdog in a single life. By the time the last one showed up I was heading back to the bonfire to refill since I was out of estus and at 50% health.
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