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9 hours until Stellaris release!
Let's make space great again!
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literally who
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Soundtrack is already out if you care about that stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ9J38UU4BY&index=17&list=PLMLFOdnxoUGasq1pD_7isUSVF78vPwEXB
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Redpill me on this game, /v/.
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HAHAHAHA!!!!
Allow me to open this thread properly by presenting a naive fool.
HAHAHAHA!!!
May the fool be witnessed >>336990551

HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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>>336990925
Paradox LITERALLY withholds easily-implemented features in order to pump out $15 DLC every 4 to 5 months.
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>>336990925
It's like distant worlds, but actually good
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>>336991026
This. Please stop buying their games.
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The wait is short if you sleep now
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>>336990925
>be race that is only different by some stats and a picture from others
>be on planet
>grow too much
>colonize new planet
>GSG in space
>get bored after you've done everything
>pay 15$ for DLC that add little content every 3-4 month
>Pay 100-200 Dollar for a game you played 20 hours
>....
>profit
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>>336991195
>>336991091
>>336991026
gay
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Will keep me busy until HOI4. Hopefully they didn't fuck that up.

Hopefully we finally get Vicky III with the support it deserves.
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>>336990925
>Redpill me on this game, /v/.
You pirate it.

You wait and see if Paradox goes full-jew with DLC (as they always do)

If they do? Congrats you saved money.

If they don't? Maybe they are not shit anymore - feel free to buy the game and support them.
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First for furries.
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http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=23339&game=Stellaris
Suffering
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>>336991091
Fungoid rollin.

Last numbers deciedes.
If the there is a 1 before the last number it counts too except the last number goes above 5.


THEY SEE ME ROLLIN
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>>336991253

Two options:
1) No DLC, but Paradox essentially abandons the game.
2) DLC

You can't win with those fucks. They're lucky no one has stolen their ideas.
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>>336991253
pretty much this, i could easly buy it, but i know paradox and i know thye will try to literally steal from me, so im just gonna pirate. im sure they would get more money if they'd change their tactics
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>>336991312
>12

noice
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>>336990757
Why no countdown...what faggotry...
Also, from the gameplay videos its obvious the game mechanics are clunky as shit...
Like the whole exploration fatal failure crap where everyone has to simply level up their explorer till the failure rate is super low on any anomaly they want to try..
No choice since risking the explorer is way too dangerous especially if he is leveled up..
Also, all races feel the same..You dont look or are organized in a different manner, just changes in stats..
No unique gameplay, game plays like you were playing with different civilizations on earth as oppose to alien life forms.
Game has no soul. And combat, as usual is simplistic as fuck.
No ability to choose strategy or assign commanders to speciality ships or divide your fleet into squads with commander that use different tactics...
Inventions have no character, just tiny icons. Compare that to Moo2, that game had a soul cause many stuff had cool visual representations.
In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.
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>>336991423
That's because the game was literally pumped out in like 14 months lol, and they didn't have better games in the past to draw and improve upon.
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>>336991091
wow these look retarded
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>>336991276
I built this computer 4 or 5 years ago with money I made working at McDonald's.

The CPU is overclocked to 4.4GHz, btw.
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>>336991253
>(as they always do)
I'VE NEVER SEEN JEWERY LIKE THIS BEFORE
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looks boring

>>336990915

just another shitty pc game that will be forgotten on 2 days
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>>336991423

all of this
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>>336991423
>Moo2
What is this very interesting thing?
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>>336990915
>>336990915
>>336990915


OH MY GOSH IT SOUNDS LIKE INTERSTELLAR AND 80S SYNTH IM IN SOUNDTRACK HEAVEN
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>>336991686

>sonycuck this mad
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>>336991574
lel that's like 150 real Dollars.
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>>336991253
Is that a brown elf I see?

Sauce? Google isn't showing me anything, presumably because of the shooped hat.
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>>336991423
>In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.

they've explained that is the point of the game since day 1 though?
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>>336992007
>He didn't recognize glorious nipponjin demon blade folded over 3 million times
laughinggiantrobot.jpg
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>>336990915
>when it hits the 2 minute mark
goddamn son, I approve
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>>336991423
>In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.

That's all paradox games you nonce
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I can't wait seeing all the crying children here after game release.

What a waste of time and money.
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What are improvements or differences in this game over Distant Worlds?
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>>336991091
They look cool but are there seriously only 1 human portrait or is it just choosing the general style? I'm postive there will be a $3.00 DLCs for portraits down the line though.
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>>336992357
Massive amount of DLC and broken features and bugged release
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>>336991091
fixed
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>>336992376
You choose race
After that you choose your subrace/phenotype and sex, and other unimportant shit
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>>336992376
You can customise it, those are just the type yes. But your first leader will die at some point.
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>>336992357
Distant Worlds to this is like total war to the ck and eu, too shallow and boring
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>>336992729
Can you elaborate?
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>>336992841
Sure I can, but I don't want to write long post
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>>336991247
>vicky3
Be careful with what you wish for.
Can you imagine EU4 style vicky?
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>>336992946
Why? Aren't you excited for Liberal and Conservative mana?
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>>336992937
Please do.

Stellaris looks pretty shitty so far.
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>>336992946
>>336993016
EU3 had mana too, like colonists/spies/diplomats/traders
You have 10 seconds to explain why vici2 didn't had any mana shit, but vici3 will
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>>336993181
HoI2 and HoI3 didn't have mana, but HoI4 does.
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>>336992502
This is pretty underrated post.

9/10
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>>336993181
>EU3 had mana too, like colonists/spies/diplomats/traders
Don't be fucking stupid.
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>>336993348
>Don't be fucking stupid.
Are you retarded?
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>>336992224
Are you literally calling the entire history of the human race tabula rasa? Fucking what?
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>>336993405
Nope. But you definitely are if you think traders/dip/etc. equal Mana in EU 3.
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>>336993268
>HoI2 and HoI3 didn't have mana
So you never played this games...
Go back to your /gsg/ shithole
vici and ck are the only paradox games without mana, and maybe rome don't remember
>>336993348
How they weren't mana? Are you braindead retarded or something?
They are literally worked like adm/dip/mil, you spend them and waited until they restore to spend again
Why do you call one thing mana but not other? Because it's hurt your narration?
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>>336993405
Why are you ccomparing representation of resources to a ridiculous gameplay abstraction tthat can be used to fit everything
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>>336993626
You are real fucking idiot. Sorry that being Paradox fanboys turned you this stupid.

They are not mana because they aren't some magic points that you can instantly spend to immediately benefit your empire like the monarch point.

Admin Mana? Spend those to immediately reduc War Exhaustion or increase your stability.

And you're comparing this shit to sending your traders to trade center to accumulate money.

You're fucking stupid.
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>>336993790
>Spend those to immediately reduc War Exhaustion or increase your stability.
Oh, so you never played EU3 too...
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>>336992019
Thats just a cop out. They could have thought about a way to add lore without compromising their desire for randomality.
the game needs more traits, its need more specialization and focus. Different alien life has to have radically different organization and control schemes...They are masters of making menues, well, traits should effect if for example you have commanders that you assign to different tasks or if you have some other control mechanics where a master insect brain levels up and controls everything himself, which means experience always levels up and no leaders can die (cause its one giant hive) but the master mind has other caps which offset the fact the experiecne is always preserved...

We need radical stuff of this nature..We need originality.
This is not EU or CK, where you play with different human countries, these are alien life forms...
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Never really played strategy or grand strategy games, so I'll probably get my ass kicked hard but the allure of being able to create my own species and empire and take over the universe, or at least co-exist with others in it is too much for me, I know I will probably get my ass beat and not understand wtf happened but I have to try.
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>>336991091
Why do people shit on Distant Worlds so

The game gets so little attention and now that it actually does get attention with Stellaris coming out it gets nothing but insults
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Paradox fans are some of the biggest cocksuckers on the internet. I guess all those DLCs melted their brains.
>>336993937
Fucking shills, that's what they are.

Prior to Stellaris release/hype thread nobody shit on DW, or even cared about it.
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>>336993875
You can spend imaginary points to immediately increase stability in EU3?

How?
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>>336993626

You're not going to win this argument. The mana fags are too simple minded to understand abstraction. They like sending diplomats or spending ducats to instantly have some sort of effect in the world because they know that people and money exist in the real world. It doesn't matter that you and I know that the diplomat is just an abstraction of the political agency of a massive nation state. They can't understand that. All they see is the little portrait of a man. And men do things, don't you know?

>>336993875

He's about to tell you that money isn't mana. Really. These people don't understand. You're just going to get frustrated as he becomes more angry over his own confusion.
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>>336993875
Please point out where you spend admin mana to do those things in eu3. I've played that game to death but I must have missed that
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>>336994076
>He's about to tell you that money isn't mana.
Damn, son. You sure got me good.

How much did Parajew paid you?
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>>336994076
What gets me, is the way that people that talk about mana insist heavily that it's more realistic to spend money or something when it's just divorced entirely from how things worked at the time. EU 4 at least outright doesn't have you develop technolgoy, just adopt it really.
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>>336993937
Fuck if I know. I kept asking what's wrong with DW yet nobody tells me, apart from it's shit and shallow and such.
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>>336994161

See. He's so confused that he has to fall back on memespeak even if it makes no sense in this context. These people are very, very stupid.
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>>336991026
>Paradox LITERALLY found a great financial tactic to keep their company running, and buying is completely optional

FTFY, cunt.
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>>336994235
Near to nobody played DW here.
Fuck off already this game is shit and people in this thread are shit too.

40$ for a game on early access level that will have 100DLC.
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>still buying poorly coded dlc fest swedish cuck games

lmoa
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>>336994220
The problem with influence is that it's just not a very good mechanic. You get these points that can be used in so many different ways, itI doesn't make any sense. Why would suppressing a revolt cost progress in the next military tech?
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>>336994220
>>336994251
Actually, the funniest is when people say shit like "why do I have to choose between diplomacy or boats" when several eminent ship designers and naval reformers were also MP's, and natual philsophers and they couldn't be doing everything at once.
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>>336991423
Welp, considered this game out of my list then.

Thanks for the heads up.
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>>336993937
>>336994235
>Why do people shit on Distant Worlds
Because they tried to make big game but it ended up being a shallow garbage in many aspects
Want to develop properly? Just build neccesery amount of buildings on the planet with needed resourse and tax it. Nothing else needed!
Diplomacy and espionage? Fucking joke even compared to the turn based strategies
And I won't even start with how much little shit you need delegate to the AI if you want even start playing properly
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>>336994463
>your army is out putting down rebels
>can't drill in the latest tactics becuase they're putting down a rebellion

You never develop any technolgoy in EU, that's just not how that time period works, that gets done on it's own, you just adopt it and incorporate it.
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>>336994463
Bruh, it's all abstract and shit.
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Ok, so EU3 has mana.


Then why did you say that Vicky 2 has no mana then? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
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>>336994251
Guys look, this rretarded so conditioned to gobbling Swedish cock he's convinced himself influence is a good mechanic instead of an oversimplification of complex institutions, isn't that hilarious you guys??? XDD
Can you maybe present your point like an actual human being, this is getting obnoxious
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>>336992502
cunning post ya git
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>>336994667
Because game literally doesn't have resources you can spend?
Even goods and budget you don't spend directly
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Can we get release time zone lists, gmt to aest does not translate well friendly /v/'s
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>>336994854
8 hours from now for all timezones
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My god, Paradox has to fire its concept artists and lore people. Gameplay looks solid but everything else screams conveyor belt McScience-Fiction. Even Startdock managed to do better.

>tfw you'll never have Amplitude tier UI/Art/Lore in Stellaris
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>>336994831
Leadership point.

Diplo point.
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>>336994854
I-I HEAR THAT IT WILL RELEASE AT 6PM

6 FUCKING PM GMT TIME

I HAVE AN EXAM ON THURSDAY

THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY GAMING DAY


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>336994854
Why do you care? Swedes have made clear they only care about american release time and don't give a shit about europe. Cucks
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>>336991894
Master Of Orion 2, a good game
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Uhm, guys? Every gameplay vid I've watched has brown humans and nothing else. Light brown, giganigga brown, but no white...
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>>336994903
Oh you right
And both of them are actually EU4 style mana if you think about it
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torrent when?
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>>336995003
It's from Sweden after all.
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>>336995003
Look where developer is from
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>>336995093
>>336995120
Why is Sweden so progressive?
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>it's already been 9 May for a whole fucking day
>game will actually come out on the 10th

Fuck this shit.
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can someone toss me the link for the faction customizer?
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>>336994891

I honestly agree, as much as i love paradox the lore department lacks. Granted from what i've seen in Stellaris is quite an improvement (fictional setting as compared to previous titles which are heavily historical based so need to be some what believable) but it doesn't top what Amplitude has.


Don't get me wrong their artists work is amazeballs but amplitude just has something about their style that captures that unique feeling of a fantasy science fiction / fantasy universe especially with Endless legend and Space. You ain't wrong either, the UI/Lore is definitely more developed too but then again, stellaris is just making up a story as you go compared to pre-set stories like ES/L so you kind of gotta give them some leeway there.

Speaking of, has their been any record of "magic" or some form of basis that explains the possibility of magical elements in stellaris? I've heard its got some mystical elements to it according to some lets players but im not 100% sure.
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>>336995142
Because nordic men are evil.
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>>336995219
Only in asian countries like japan and thailand
Even in China it will came out at the 23:00
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Is it possible to choose islam as your main religion?
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>>336990757
I watched some lets plays.

Looks more casualized then EU4.
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>>336995318
I'm pretty sure the description of "magic" is going to be an ethos related one as in a spiritual government is going to be describing anomalies as magical phenomena while more materialistic species will simply be describing it in more scientific terms
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>>336990915
>Organs
Oh god yes please
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>>336995347
And Ausfuckingstralia.

It will come out at 4AM on the 10th of May here, as far as I can tell.
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Look , i get why people hate the DLC policy. I usually only buy the base game and pirate myself but man, these games are by far the ones i put the most hours into. So lets say all in all you spend a 100 bucks on it with all the dlc and you put 400 hours into it, isn't that like...okay? If you don't like it just pirate it , i don't give a fuck
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>>336994854
Just fucking google "Stellaris countdown". First result you lazy piece of shit.
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>>336995318
What magicial elements?
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>>336995802
My MO for Pair-o-ducks games is just to buy the base game and pirate all the DLC after that

its possible to transplant pirated DLC onto legit steam copies
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>>336995802
There is literally nothing wrong with DLC.

This DLC is bad meme is the most annoying shit. People got mad at DLC practices originally because it either was a total scam (horse armor) or cut content. But now the difference has been lost and its "ALL DLC BAD".
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>>336995318
>Speaking of, has their been any record of "magic" or some form of basis that explains the possibility of magical elements in stellaris? I've heard its got some mystical elements to it according to some lets players but im not 100% sure.
The whatever faster than light technology that goes through hell and has a chance of unleashing a daemonic invasion. I am not kidding, Paradox straight up copied this.
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>>336995936
>>336995940

I mean what developer continiously supports their game years after release? I think the main complaint is that EU4 was shit to begin with and still is shit with the Mana
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>>336995968
>copied
They are doing lots of tie ins with other scifi themes and stories

Like Terminators and 40k. I like it.
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>>336995968
no it doesn't go through hell, it has a chance of opening a hole to another dimension through which otherworldly beings can enter
its less 40k more lovecraft

and besides, given that literally nothing in 40k is original, there's no problems borrowing anything from it
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>>336996202
>there's no problems borrowing anything from it
Except shoulderpads, apparently.
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>>336996202
>given that literally nothing in 40k is original, there's no problems borrowing anything from it
Shitty logic is shitty
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>>336996202
or the movie Event Horizon
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>>336996293
dunno warcraft has reached the pauldron threshold
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>just only found out about this game today
Well it's a great feeling to be surprised and only have to wait 1 day.
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>>336996041
Can we do a thought experiment?
Does anyone remember the 30-40 dollar expansion packs PC games from a generation ago would have

Would two or three pieces of content (non-reskin) DLC released for EU IV, each of which were like 15 dollars at their launch, equal the amount of additions that came with a typical expansion pack

im not making some kind of rhetorical point, i really dont know
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>>336996365
not really, if you're borrowing something from 40k you're actually borrowing it from the same source 40k borrowed it from, therefor the creators and fans of 40k have literally zero argument by which to claim borrowing from them is somehow improper
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>>336996457
Like I said, thats some real shitty logic.

Also, 40k has plenty of original stories involved. Go read a book.
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>>336996417
They occasionally had one or sometimes (rarely) at max two expansions.
The costs were here most time 20-30ā‚¬.

No cosmetic useless mini DLC for 3$.
No Sims kind 20 big DLC for 15$.
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>>336994534
I think the biggest problem with Distant Worlds is that it was a 4x that tried to be a grand strategy, but lacked the good parts from both (like a god awful tech tree that with laser>laser2>laser3>laser4>etc being a 5% boost difference)
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>>336996457
>if you're borrowing something from 40k you're actually borrowing it from the same source 40k borrowed it from, therefor the creators and fans of 40k have literally zero argument by which to claim borrowing from them is somehow improper
>I ONLY READ MATURE ORIGINAL STORIES. EVERYTHING NOT ORIGINAL IS SHIT.
You sound like a cunt.
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>>336996513
we were talking about setting here, not content
and 40k's setting ranges from inspired by to blatant copyright violation
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>>336996054
>I like it.
I'd like it if they did it better. The AI rebellion was already done in AI War and it was fantastic. Seeing a MEDIOCRE copy of warp travel, of AI rebellion, of Tyranids invasion, of basically everything else that's a standard sci-fi trope is not going to make me pay full price.

Going to wait for a sale. By then they might actually fix the end-game melting your rig.

>>336996202
>literally nothing in 40k is original,
True

>there's no problems borrowing anything from it
WRONG! Originality is no virtue, doing something well is what matters. 40k and Fantasy does it great, Paradox is just soulless.
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>>336996417
Well the problem with gsg in general is you can't just put together a different campaign right? So they constantly have to change the gameplay or add new nations but also do meaningful additions to the game.

So the last 2 DLCs (wich run you around 30-40 dollars together I guess) added a bunch of new mechanics. I'd say its still less then an expansion was back in the day, but it keeps me coming back to the game and sink another 24-40 hours into it. So the way i see it (if i bought the DLC or eu4 which i didn't) its an okay $/Entertainment ratio
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>>336996608
>Im trying to move the goalposts to save face, please stop calling my logic shitty :(
Shitty logic is shitty. Period.
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>>336996607
>when 40k rips off something its a-ok
>HOW DARE THIS OTHER SETTING HAVE SOMETHING VAGUELY SIMILAR TO 40K THEY CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THIS CRIME
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>>336996675
I never said that though, its good they copy other good scifi settings, you're the one being a cunt claiming everything non original is bad.
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>>336996675
We have a saying here.
A good imitation is better than a bad invention.

Just think about what you would enjoy more.
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>>336996649
>40k
>doing something well

how to create 40k lore

1: read a scifi/fantasy work
2: remove anything ambiguous about it
3: add grimdark
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>>336996781
Anyone can be a minimalist cunt and pretend a work is unoriginal. You're not doing yourself any favors.
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>>336996654
well, there's also the addition of mechanics that make absolutely no impact or sense, that can be completely ignored.

I miss the days when expansions were just chock full of content, like getting an entire new campaign for Neverwinter Nights, and not a DLC class with no balance thought for the same price tag
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>>336996763
problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
>>336996729
nothing wrong with copying, everything wrong with copying, then demanding you don't be copied in return
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I will buy this in 4 years on a steam sale with all the dlc for like $25 and have fun then.
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>>336996781
how to create Paradox lore

1: read a history/sci/fantasy book
2: remove anything unique and notable about it
3: use the barebones idea to sell your DLC because muh players should make up their own lore
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>>336996892
>everything wrong with copying, then demanding you don't be copied in return
But 40k never did that. So well done for disproving yourself.
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>>336996875
that's not being a minimalist cunt, that's pretty much literally how several parts of 40k's setting were created
I mean, everything about the Emperor is basically Dune, minus the intrigue that made Dune interesting
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>>336996892
>problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
Literally no one in this thread said this. Stop making shit up to save face.
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>>336996948
40k maybe not, but its fans sure as hell do
>The whatever faster than light technology that goes through hell and has a chance of unleashing a daemonic invasion. I am not kidding, Paradox straight up copied this.
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>>336996892
The telling of storries as a whole can be seen as a ripodff of old greek dramaes that where a rip off from levante eposes.

Everyone gets an influence and developes Ideas. It's done in music, games, science in just everything.
Some of those is just worse and some better.

This whole discussion is senseless since original content is near to non existent.
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>>336996950
How to create Dune lore

1. Copy any scifi ever
2. Add Spice

See how much of a minimalist cunt you are? No more replies for you cunt.
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>>336996763
>A good imitation is better than a bad invention.
Mah niggah.
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>>336996950
>I mean, everything about the Emperor is basically Dune, minus the intrigue that made Dune interesting
>Dune is literally just any generic history book about politics + scifi + spice

Its unoriginal trash by your shitty logic. This is literally what you are saying.
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>>336997125
but if you copy something at least have the integrity to not demand nobody does the same to you
don't go around claiming (insert setting) ripped off 40k because its method of FTL carries risks
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>>336997045
He wasn't complaining you moron. Jesus stop being so thin skinned.
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>>336997280
Except that dune is a majorly ecological work which was actually a new thing especially for sci-fi at that point.
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>>336997340
Not by your shitty logic. But well done proving you're a moron by saying Dune is shit.
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>take a nap
>stellaris STILL isnt out

this is worse then hell

how many more hours?
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>>336996892
>problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
Improve your reading comprehension. I started the argument by saying Paradox was shit for being bad at copying. When GW copies, it improves on the source material.

Amplitude also copies standard sci-fi concepts. But it improves on them.
Whoever the Pandora devs are also copied SMAC but improved on it.

Contrast with Beyond Earth which is just as much of a soulless copy cash-grab as Paradox.
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post empires
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>>336997406
I'm not even him, you're just being a fucking tool by even comparing literature to 40k.

And the term you're looking for is reductionist, not minimalist.
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obligatory
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>>336997573
>Whoever the Pandora devs are also copied SMAC but improved on it.
It's pretty hard to beat SMAC, the steam reviews are leaving me skeptical
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>>336997535
7 hours!!!!
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>>336996946
>He doesn't have an imagination because he has been spoonfed anime his entire life
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whats that empire building sited?
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>muh original Dune, totally revolutionary
God-Emperors has existed since before writing had been created. Epic of Gilgamesh, anyone?
>Spice
Guess what LITERAL spices were the object of trade/war since fucking forever.

>>336997724
Well, it's all >opinions but Pandora tried. BE didn't.
>>336997792
>He's paying money so that he can imagine stuff
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Reminder that Streamers were embargoed and couldn't talk about how bad the middle to late game stutters/lags. Guy was playing on a fucking server and it was shitting the bed.

Protip: wait for reviews/cpu patch (tho their engine is old as fuck) or play only on the smallest galaxy
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>>336997792
Gamers today lack any form of imagination or creativity because the graphics lack any form of vagueness.
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IT'S UP
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>>336990915
I will conquer space with this
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>>336991091
roll for bird master race
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TORRENT WHEN?

TORRENT WHEN?
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>space 4x
oh neat that could be-
>paradox
oh nevermind. Maybe in a year when it's actually done and the "complete" version is $5 on sale.

I can't wait to see how paradox ruins mountain bladew 2
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>>336997669
What website?
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>>336998212
probably 10 hours or so. I'm not sure how long it will take for the torrent to be released after it releases on steam but 10 hours would be a safe bet.
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>>336991423
>he wants a predefined story instead of emergent gameplay

JUST
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>>336997045
The warp isn't hell...
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>>336997634
Yeah look pretending to be someone else wont help you either idiot
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>>336998301
K cool anon, I'll be having fun playing this for over a year before you buy it.
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>>336998403
I'm actually not him, but the fact you don't know the difference between minimalist and reductionist is all we need to know.
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>>336998491
Again, keep pretending to be someone else and trying to move the goalposts with your semantics
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>>336995003
I've seen white.

Hell, look on the list of races thing posted further up in the thread. White woman, right there. Furthermore, check out anyone who got prerelease copies and is playing human, and you'll see the different portraits for humans.

The people who really got gypped were the Asians, Middle Easterners, Indians, and Hispanics.

It's just White and Black.
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Are any reviews up yet? Or is that fucking embargo going to last until actual release? Why are review embargos even allowed? Did Paradox pay reviewers, so they don't show how bugged/broken their game is again at release?
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>>336991574
>songs
>portraits
>implying the majority of those aren't completely ancillary dlc that you can ignore without it impacting your enjoyment of the series in the slightest
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Well chaps.
I want to tell you my plan. Even I know that you won't give any fuck about it.

So:
I'll go to sleep soon. Wake up at 6pm. And play Stellaris until 9pm when I will have to go to work.
That means I will only get about 5 hours of sleep since I can't fall asleep before 1pm.

I will then drink Energy drinks to stay awake and be able to work.

My timezone is GMT+1.

Damn that's a motherfucking awesome plan, isn't it?
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>>336995318
Picking the Spiritualist ethos unlocks some powerful late game "psi" techs.
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>>336997573
>send them into the military
Now that's cynical.
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>>336998021
Damn, I'll take your word for it. Learning the game through a small galaxy will be comfy if nothing else.
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>>336998824
Whatever works, we're building a colony at the edge of human space not a theme park.
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Whos ready to play orks at release? doing the split up for animations and adding him some armor to make the "generic" ork first
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>>336998945
>>336997573
Is this GalCiv3?

I loved GalCiv 2. Is 3 any good?
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>>336998945
Wow, what a shitty writing
Bravo paradox, another reason to pirate your garbage
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>>336999007
Orcs would be so fuckable if they had more chest and less face.
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>>336998945
Shit this looks a bit like Galactic Civs 2, is this the new 3rd one?
How is it?
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>>336999007
Lookin good anon
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>>336999007
No, fuck you and your gay orcs with a special k. I'm playing as the Gorn.
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>>336999027
this isn't stellaris lmao
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>>336999182
>lmao
Say this again and I fuck your boipussi rough.
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>>336999345
l m a o

: ^ )
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>>336997573
>>336998945

Anyone not selecting the 3rd option in both those cases is a fucking leftie communist that should end themselves.
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>>336999421
Wow pretty gay.
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>>336991026
>WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR WORK A COMPANY CONTINUES TO DO ON A GAME THEY RELEASED YEARS AGO

Maybe you'll understand how money and jobs work once you stop being a NEET.
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I heard it's gonna be open for dwnload in 30 mins

Can't wait to play reptilian slavers, decadent motherfuckers that like to get their cock sucked by their slaves in between conq of galaxy
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>>336999015
>Is this GalCiv3?
Yes.
>Is 3 any good?
No.
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>>336999583
What is this slave thing I hear going around in Stellaris? Will there be enslaved races?
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>>336991343
>im sure they would get more money if they'd change their tactics

Really? I'm sure you don't really know how the world works. Here's a hint, companies only make money when people pay them for the work they spent money doing.
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>>336999607
>No.

The fuck of a hell, WHY?
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I can't fucking wait the found the Holy Penguin Empire led by the great Emperor Penguin. All races will bow down to penguin superiority.
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>>336999004
>solitary collectivists
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>>336999663
Praise the Holy Spheniscidae
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>>336999679
>What is pre-WW1 Japan
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>>336999679
Believing in the greater good doesn't necessarily entail constant contact with people.

Autistic internet commies should have taught you that.
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>>336999643
slavery is in and going to be pretty op at the start of the game given slave revolts are bugged and never happen
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>>336999756
>>336999747
>loner-fags having a concept of greater good
>loner-fags doing something for other people
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>>336999282
>>336999004
>>336997669

what game?
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>>336999852
You're an idiot.
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>>336999870
Danganronpa
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>>336999015
>>336999027
>>336999091

It's GalCiv3.

It's good.
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>>336998321
>>336999870
stellarisspeciesgen.com
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Can immortality be researched ingame? I dont want my god emperor dying of old age
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>>336999870
Boku no Pico.
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>>336999978
play pretend the successor is the soul of the dead god emperor incarnate
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>Still no GMG key >:(
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>>337000029
Or play pretend the emperor is still alive.

You know, just like 40k.
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>>337000074
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>>336999978
Just worship a pile of bones like they do in 40k.
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>>336997669
>Welfarius
>Bootlipians
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>>337000171
>>337000074
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>>336999978
if you want an immortal rulership there is the one advanced government form where you basically hand control to friend computer
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>>336999978
Just make him vulnerable and he will live for a bunch of time and when he dies just rename the next one with his name like parents swaping the dogs so the children don't get sad.
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>>336999663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y

How would this reflect in traits?
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>>336999974
>>337000013

I see now, It would really be a challenge run.
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>>337000401
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>>336999645
it's like with taxes, high taxes actually give less money, because ppl avoid them, if they wouldnt charge 150$ for a full game more ppl would buy it
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WHERE IS THE TORRENT
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>>337000538
Game isn't out yet
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Torrent available yet? Don't worry, I'll buy the game when it's complete and available in one package
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>>336990915

That's GOAT material
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Help me out here, /v/: Should I get the preorder bonus or hold out and see if Paradox is trying to jew me again?
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Early review problems:
>No Map Modes
>Federations and Alliances don't do anything but give you ship access
>Can't tell allies/AI not to research things via force or Diplomacy so Unbidden from researching jump drives will almost always happen
>Only 4 endgame events
>Slavery has 0 downsides if specced properly
>Having too many Pops is responsible for slowdowns

So if there's no real commerce or diplomacy beyond what's in Beyond Earth/vanilla Civ V and military blobbing is only the real play-style where's the grand strategy? The depth?

I get roleplaying different gov types, but fuck does this stink like Paradox rushed this out to milk DLC/push free mod labor
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>all these governments
>all this potential for roleplaying story

Fuckkkkkk there goes 200 hours of my life
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>>337000735
>Only 4 endgame events
still more than any pure other 4x
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>>337000730

Hold out, you're almost 100% getting jewed, Paradox can't release anything solid day 1
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>>337000693
>when it's complete and available in one package
>Paradox game
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>>337000735
AKA EU IV problem
>Vanilla is shit
>Make expansions that add small fixes/content
>Also Cosmetic DLC
>Repeat, repeat
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is cheapest place greenman? $30 USD for the standard edition with their discount code
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>>337000902
>love EU4
>think of buying it for a friend
>vanilla is so barebones compared to the rest
>realize I'd be boning him by giving him a barebones version of the game
the world is cruel
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I'm looking forward to a barebones version of this game so a retard like me can understand how to play it and then slowly pirate the dlc as it comes out to enhance my experience once I've learned how to play
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I have tried so hard to play Paradox games in the past and I've come to one simple conclusion.

These games are for autists.
It's as simple as that. And no, I'm not a casual, I've played Dwarf Fortress, Planescape: Torment, all kinds of shit.
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What's the difference between "normal", "nova" and "galaxy"?

Also
>Cross-platform multiplayer
>Linux/Windows
>Cross-platform
ayy
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I'm so fucking hyped for this shit right now I can't fucking wait 6 more fucking hours, fuck.
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>>337000902
>>337000978
If you play multiplayer with somebody who has DLC and you donĀ“t you automaticly can use that DLC in that game.
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rate.

Insect that believe they have to serve a god who punished them by turning the home world into a barren ice land.
They seek for forgivness to make Kryosis great again.
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I WILL BREED THEM ALL.
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>>336999978
Stellaris is a dry as fuck game. It has no "cool" inventive stuff. It just has generic average shit and even that is used only as decoration, hardly altering anything about the gameplay.
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>>337001127
im sure those endless dlc's fuel your salary well, mr paradox pr office employee
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>>337001104
Nova gets you a single species picture the soundtrack and a digital artbook if I recall correctly.

It didn't sound worth it.
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>>337001091
How the fuck is Planet Escape Tournament a "hardcore" game?
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>>337001214
How many hours have you played?
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