This fucking company man.
It's just fucking sad.
yup
>>336971212
JUST
>not liking mario and zelda
Not as sad as Sony.
>>336971552
It's time, Anon. There is only hurt for you here.
>>>/vr/
Yes. Hopefully they go 3rd party soon. I'm sick of spending money on their hardware.
>>336971648
What do you mean?
And why did you bring up Sony anyways?
>>336971732
Oh I think you know why I mentioned Sony.
They need to accept that they have to catch up to the rest of the gaming market.
Their family gaming shtick isn't going to cut it anymore. Kids, and their parents, are going to want cooler consoles that look better, and have better games than Three Hour Fox.
>>336971865
You didn't answer the question
Why are you bringing Sony?
>>336971552
>liking mario and zelda
what are you, a fucking causal?
>>336971732
Because it's a sinking ship that seperated the PlayStation brand in order to avoid it from going down with the rest of the Sony. Basically if the PS4.5 bombs so will the rest of the company. Nintendo has only been in the red 2013 and 2014 after the N64
>>336971552
>Mario
>Zelda
Sorry but i already grow hair in the balls
they fucked up. they need to make some new games. they can't keep relying on the same 3 games every gen
>>336971552
How many times do you need to play the same games ? Do you also spend thousands of hours watching the same movies and series ?
>>336972050
>Sony doomed since 2006
>T-they are going bankrupt guys!
>Meanwhile they are doing more money
>>336972082
No, but people still get excited for new star wars movies...
>>336972189
We don't get Star War movies each year.
>>336972182
>Meanwhile they are doing more money
What did he mean by this?
Have you forgotten, they blew through all their PS2 money on the PS3
>>336972395
They already recovered anon
PS+ and strong PS4 sales
Eat shit
>it's a Nintendo is dying again episode
>>336971951
Cuz can't afford PS4 :^)
>>336972182
>T-there won't be a PS4
>>336972503
Sad doesn't mean dying. Nintendo is just pitiful. Out of touch with reality, only supported by the dying population of nostalgia driven deviants.
>>336972050
>How dare they make a smart decision as a company!
Also even if the PS4.5 bombs, they'll still survive.
>>336972075
They made several new IPs this gen, but no one bought most of them.
Only Splatoon and Pushmo seemed to do well.
>>336972503
Maybe not but they aren't certainly doing right
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/27/nintendo-profits-down-61-percent
>>336971552
Why is Zelda still relevant? What does it do better than other games?
Block puzzles?
>>336972685
PS4.5 will be pretty much a success
People always buy more and better powerful hardware
Look at PC fags and iPhone users
Anyway, this isn't the topic of this thread.
>>336972317
We will now
>>336972317
Besides the NES and the Wii there has only been 1 mainline Mario game on each console. So on average one every 3 years
>>336972851
Yeah, let's conveniently forget the endless spin-offs and handheld games.
>>336972912
Lets not pretend Disney doesn't throw Mickey Mouse on literally everything that isn't a movie
>Tfw it was Tokyo Mirage Session that made you completely lose interest in anything they do that isn't a handheld.
All I wanted was a good rpg and was willing to look past the idols but what I got was a vision into the soon to be dark days.
>>336972725
The bosses are usually pretty neat.
>Its another "Sony is going bankrupt first" episode, when the PS3 debt has been paid back in full with the PS4's 40 million sales and counting
I don't get it. Its like, regardless of how many PS4s they sale, its always the same fucking response on how they are going bankrupt. Nintendo isn't going bankrupt either. Why are people so desperate for video game companies to go bankrupt?
>>336971212
10 years ago i might have cared but the Wii killed any interest i had in them as a company.
Stupid retarded decisions, meme controllers and no games and stupid hardware is how you kill a company.
I really wish sega was still alive to day but nooooooooooooooooooooo instead we have Nintendoh, Xbawx1111One111 and the PS4 downgrade
>>336971552
LOL the Wii u never got its own Zelda game
it had to get it gimped and wait for the NX
HAHAHAHAHHA
>>336971212
Meh. I like their3dsgames.
>>336972317
We do now anon. We do now. Rogue One is seen as a transitional movie to lead into episode 8, which will probably come out in 2017, and if not then, 2018 with another transitional movie for 2017 as well.
>>336973093
Except the thread is not about bankruptcy or profit at all
>>336973092
I'm honestly genuinely wondering.
It certainly doesn't have the best exploration, I don't think its action is particularly in depth compared to other games. Does it come down to the puzzles?
What makes it seemly such a big deal still?
>>336973093
They want all the games, but can only afford one console.
>>336973092
Oh yeah, I sure do love using the latest item I got to hit the boss in his giant glowing weak spot over and over 3 times.
>>336972725
>>336973278
You speak as someone who has never played one before.
Maybe the problem is you
>>336973308
Like, I understand Mario.
Mechanically, Mario is some top notch platforming. Like, the best in its genre. I'm not sure what Zelda provides that other adventure, RPG, or even puzzle games don't provide.
>>336973562
I have played Zelda before, though.
Link's Awakening was one of the earliest defining memories I have a video game. It's the first game I remember feeling accomplished beating. It was an amazingly little adventure game that came in a handheld, and provided an experience I couldn't get anywhere else.
OoT was this fully fleshed out 3D world with tons of character and mystery to it that gave a truly unique atmosphere and experience.
But times change. Genres evolve. I'm asking, what exactly does a Zelda game nowadays give that isn't readily available in countless other games?
>>336973208
Dear god, console wars are a meme that has been perpetuated through generations by pissed off sega kids.
Do you realize what you have done?
>>336973092
Disney are some of the biggest jews on the planet. That isn't surprising at all.
>>336971648
Tell that to the 40 million PS4 units sold
>>336974078
Meant for
>>336973035
>>336972693
What new ips?
Splatoon and steam?
>>336973208
>meme controllers and no games
YEP definitely a part of the Wii generation
>>336972720
Looking at the actual numbers it isn't nearly as disastrous as this clickbait headline would have you believe, they barely missed their projections.
>>336973568
Well designed dungeons with puzzles you can't solve at first, but you can once you return with the right item. It gives a lot of epiphanies.
Also, the pre-Twilight Princess games were full of content. There was something to find everywhere. Instead of having a massive world that takes an hour or two to walk across with big stretches of nothing or just random things, everything is condensed and deliberately placed.
I agree, they need to go second party to us epic sonybros.
>>336974224
>Instead of having a massive world that takes an hour or two to walk across with big stretches of nothing or just random things
You mean Wind Waker?
Just play it safe as an oldfag and say pre-N64
>>336971212
>thread possibly about Nintendo losing their way maybe even finically too
>not even 5 post in and Sony is mentioned and threads turns into another shit flinging discussion
Please get it through your heads Nintendofags
Not everyone plays let alone own a Sony console
Some of us exclusively use Nintendo
Some of us exclusively use PC
Some may use Sony products hell some may use all of them but to easily get rustled and start calling out Sony when Nintendo is becoming another shit publisher and developer is sad and paranoid
>>336971212
metroid and earthbound are shit so they deserved to die.
this is a small list of their dead franchises that actually deserve the love that they get but no one on /v/ ever talks about them (aside from f-zero)
f-zero
custom robo
advance wars
sin and punishment
kid Icarus
>>336974212
They sold a majority of the Mariners ownership
Baseball prints money even when you fail unless you live in Florida where they don't even give a shit about sports unless they have a star player or two i.e. the largest bandwagon state ever excluding small portions of Tampa bay
Their excuse was it was time to give ownership back to Seattle , nothing noting iwata's death
This came one day after a investors meeting where they said they were reconstruct how they operate business after another disappointing year of loss in profit
When you have to sell a printing making machine like a baseball team then something is wrong
>>336974224
>Well designed dungeons with puzzles you can't solve at first, but you can once you return with the right item. It gives a lot of epiphanies.
So does it come down to the puzzles?
Is Zelda's niche being a genre defining puzzle game?
Cause that doesn't feel right to me. What I enjoyed the most about Zelda never really came from stepping on switches and pushing blocks, while occasionally using items.
At the same time though, I'm not sure what it uniquely offers anymore that other games do.
It's not a full on RPG- it lacks the depth of all that. It's trumped by countless other games having bigger worlds and more oddities to find in nooks and crannies of it.
I just can't rightly place what makes Zelda as special anymore than it was in 1998.
Can Nintendo do anything with the NX to redeem themselves not only to their older fans but to the media that blasts it as well?
>>336974512
I would replace custom robo with metroid, the mother series shouldn't be touched for fear of it going to shit. Other that that I r8 this post
GUD SHIT/10
>>336974794
other games don't*
>>336974865
metroid uses the same goddamn formula over and over and its a piece of shit
>>336974824
I think so. It's going to come down to the games.
>>336975014
Metroid is like chocolate cake.
Once you have the recipe down, don't fuck if up
>>336974152
>Splatoon
>Codename Steam
>Pushmo and two sequels with different gameplay
>Steel Diver and Sub Wars which plays very differently from each other
>Sakura Samurai
>Dillon's Rolling Western
>Ketzal's Corridor
>Wonderful 101
>Rusty's Baseball
>that soccer manager game in JP and EU
If we add spinoffs
>Star Fox Guard
>Nintendoland
>NES Remix
>Pokken Tournament
>Hyrule Warriors
>Captain Toad
>>336975330
doesn't it ever get boring?
>>336972182
>doing more money
Nintendo is responsible for my two favorite and completely perfect games in my opinion.
I'll always be excited about that.
Metroid Prime, and Mario Galaxy are perfect games. They're still fun to replay
>>336975492
Not when it's this good
>>336975014
2D Metroid has two formulas.
>>336971884
>Kids, and their parents, are going to continue playing on their phones and tablets and not give a shit about consoles
FTFY. Many of my cousins have kids of their own now, the only things these kids play are endless runners and Angry Birds on their moms' iPhones.
>>336974750
They bought the Mariners in order to keep the team in Seattle, they hoped that doing so would raise favor with the city so they could build their American headquarters there. I won't deny that it could mean something troublesome for them financially, but I don't think the team ownership was ever a permanent thing,
>>336971212
You know what is even sadder? Their current fanbase defending them every time they fuck up
>>336973091
>An Atlus game made you completely lose faith in Nintendo
u wot m8?
>>336974512
The wars games are fun. Theyre better than fucking fire emblems.
sega adapted,konami adapted,namco adapted,capcom adapted
only nintendo didn't
>>336976129
>Waah why isn't Nintendo making game on PC like all these other failures that now have to resort to fucking pachinko scams to make money?
>>336975390
I'm not that same guy, and I even have a Wii U and my sister a 3DS, and I really don't even know about half of those.
ITT: plebs recognize the reality of impermanence for the first time
>>336976220
the thing is nobody buys consoles anymore, americans and asians are the only ones that consoles is still a thing
in any other place people either play button mashers on the ps3-4 or simply play their game on the pc, because having pc and emulators beats anything a console brings to the table
>>336971648
Like fucking clockwork.
>>336971552
>Mario has become more homogenized than ever and all of the spinoff series (Mario Kart being the only one excluded for some reason) have been suffering because they're forced to fall in line with the NSMB formula
>Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, all of them have basically no content and nothing original in them anymore
>Even 3D Mario has had to transform into a more 2D Mario-like form
>We've only had one traditional Zelda this gen and it was mostly only good because of how much it copied a game from well over 20 years ago
>Wii U will never get a Zelda exclusive to call its own, and it's the first Nintendo console this has ever happened to
It has not been a good gen, anon.
>>336975995
No ones defending FedForce or Colorsplash
>>336976091
Fire Emblem just got extremely lucky by releasing Awakening when the only other RPG on 3DS was port of Tales of the Abyss in all three regions, and everyone was itching for a numbers going up simulator.
Then actually marketed Fates well which to Nintendo's surprise is an effective strategy.
>>336976306
Nintendo consistently dropped the ball when it came to marketing most of them.
>>336975390
Only Splatoon and Steam were marketed, though. The rest were sent off and ignored
>Nintendo is pushing to help themselves be better
>ABLOOBLOO NINTENDOOM THIS IS SAD
You fuckers aren't helping
When did you finally have enough of Nintendo, /v/?
>>336976440
>Nintendo consistently dropped the ball when it came to marketing most of them.
I'm still amazed at how retarded the businessmen at Nintendo are. Holy shit I think some run of the mill McDonald's manager would do a better job.
The 3DS and Wii really were dumb luck.
>>336976408
This fucking autism. Why do sonyggers get so triggered
>>336976487
Yeah, right after I posted I wanted to say Instead that they didn't even show up to the game.
Anyone else excited to see how badly the NX is gonna do?
>>336976563
>The 3DS and Wii really were dumb luck.
A lot of people seem to forget, but the 3DS was a MAJOR flop until they slashed the price and decided to take a loss for a few years. Until they cut the price, a lot of developers cancelled games for it.
>>336976581
>Literally proving the picture right by using "sonygger"
>also implying I'm some poor faggot like him who can't afford multiple platforms
Wew
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Lad
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>Delay NX, and skip E3 to give themselves a chance to make a better reveal and release
>People are shitposting them to death pretending they ever gave a shit or care
This is more toxic than Gamergate and you know it
>>336976728
As a PS4 and Wii U owner, I am. Nintendo needs to have a major reality check.
>>336976776
What games got cancelled besides Legends 3?
>>336976551
when they chose to milk mario instead of moving on with some more interesting titles like pokemon and earthbound
so, long time ago.
yeah, mario and metroid are cool games indeed but there is no depth to them, so there is a limit to how much you can play the same game with different level design's.
the thing is about pokemon and earthbound is that there is so much more to do with it rather than mario
>>336976551
Censor fag please fuck off
The clothes on the left are better
>>336976776
Define cancel
Capcom were fucking idiots about MML3
>>336976776
The 3DS had all of the same problems the Wii U did (Dumb and confusing name, lackluster marketing, atrocious gimmicks that jacked up the price to far more than the things were worth, etc), the only reason the 3DS didn't bomb as hard in the long run was because Nintendo has hardly any competition in the handheld market.
>>336976413
Virtual Boy didn't have a Zelda exclusive either.
>>336976848
They're still playing catch up. I think it would be better for them if they bit the bullet and hanged on until Sony and Microsoft beging their next consoles. Meanwhile, they could make the Wii U a somewhat wortwhile thing with a Zelda, Metroid and some more other interesting shit.
But, they prefer to play catch up. Again.
>>336976908
Just Google cancelled 3DS games. Keep in mind that these games were practically cancelled around the same time and Nintendo were trying to prove they were good with third party developers.
>>336976919
People who want more Earthbound games are missing the fucking point and probably don't give a shit about what Itoi wants.
Also, every game in the series had a bothersome development.
>>336976413
Well they say the NSMB series is over so we'll see what comes next I suppose.
>>336976947
>The clothes on the left are better
No they're not. Lingerie would be more fun to look at while playing. That's why I'm going to have my Wii U and play the game with the English text added to the Japanese version.
>>336977001
VB was a handheld, technically, not a console.
Even still, if we were to consider all Nintendo systems, handheld and home consoles, the only ones without Zelda were VB and Wii U, and any situation where something winds up next to the VB just highlights how dire things are.
>>336976728
>>336976864
>Implying the Wii U wasn't already a reality check
You guys forcing yourselves to be negative on the NX when it's Nintendo's chance to redo everything isn't helping
It's the equivalent of laughing at a Fatass whose trying to excercise and lose weight
Seriously, stop, it's fucking clear Nintendo is trying to fix themselves with the NX
>>336976960
I'd say the reduced price helped too. At the time, the price was awful.
>>336977075
They won't even play catch up properly. They'll have an archaic online system and policies with censorship.
>>336976551
Why don't they just make her wear a burka at this point?
>>336977316
>it's fucking clear Nintendo is trying to fix themselves
They aren't. I wanna see them fail. And thankfully they seem to be doing everything they can to make my wish come true.
>>336977316
I have no faith in them. Remember, they're releasing in a generation where the PS4 has a major stronghold.
>>336977316
We know nothing about the NX, how can you say they're trying to improve when we know absolutely nothing about what they're doing beyond this year besides "new console" and "new Zelda"?
I want to see them improve but I will not give them the benefit of the doubt anymore and just assume they are going to do better.
>>336977316
>Nintendo is a person
>Nintendo takes time to listen to fans
Everything in your post is absolutely wrong.
>>336977083
I've found about 15-20 cancelled games. Most seemed like shovelware or cash grabs based on console series, but I'm sad about that Bomberman game.
>>336977623
Regardless, this was a time when we only really had OOT3D. It had an effect on Nintendo because soon after they slashed its price and apologised to early adopters.
>>336977316
What are they doing exactly to get out of their funk?
Are they creating a console with up to date specs (for consoles mind you) that uses a normal, non gimmicky controller while catering to third party devs with easy to program for hardware and modern/current physical media like blurays?
I'm betting the answer is no on all of that.
>>336977529
We also know it's not going to sell at a loss.
>>336977316
>"Re're sorry you bought our failure"
>"Prease buy NX, Re wont fuckkuppu again honrestry"
I'll wait till I see promising signs.
>>336977608
isn't the higher up executive of nintendo some 90 yr old yakuza guy?
get some fresh people with fresh ideas in there,keep the designers but try to move forward with whats next
>>336976129
>konami adapted
well they did, but in the worst way possible
>EROTIC ACTION
>grew up with Nintendo
>2nd console was an SNES
>loved it to death
>years later bought a N3DS
>"yes, I can finally play some modern Nintendo games on the go!"
>"oh, games are sorta pricey on the eshop"
>"better wait for a sale"
>1st party games never got discounted, except indies
>Shantae is 50% off
>live in third world country, can't buy eshop codes directly
>go to paypal to buy codes
>"sorry, this account must in the NA for you purchase codes"
>humble bundle has Shantae for 1 dollar
>bought it
Nintendo hates other countries and I highly doubt Nintendo will ever sell their Marios and Zeldas for cheap or ever put them in humble bundle. Now I understand why people want to hack their 3DSes. This tedium is annoying.
Why are Nintendo fans usually so fucking weird? You know the type I mean.
>>336976947
>Being cucked this hard that they have to live in denial that they actually ENJOY the censored content more
Only Nintendrones.
>>336977819
I'm not saying it's wrong to do because it isn't wrong, but isn't people waiting for x game to come out what killed the Wii U's early sales and subsequently drove off third parties because of a small install base which further killed sales?
>>336976519
>Nintendo is pushing to help themselves be better
If that's true, they're pretty bad at it.
>>336976919
>He actually thinks pokémon isn't getting milked
>He actually thinks Mario wasn't being milked before Earthbound was a thing
>He actually fucking WANTS EARTHBOUND TO BE MILKED EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONE OF THE RARE RPG SERIES THAT ACTUALLY KNEW TO QUIT WHILE THEY WERE AHEAD INSTEAD OF GETTING CANCELED AT A CLIFFHANGER OR ETERNALLY REHASHED UNTIL IT BECOMES SHIT
Holy shit I've seen bad tastes and stupidity in my day but good lord if you aren't breaking some fucking records here lad.
>>336977830
He's a longtime businessman who thought the Wii U was a mistake from the very beginning for being too much like the Wii. I think that already makes him look more competent than all the people that pushed the Wii U forward, at least.
>>336977184
How old are you? 13?
>>336971212
I'm still confused who greenlit changing the logo to this horrid thing. White font on red background is just really shitty to look at. Makes me want to look AWAY from it.
>>336978034
A lot of them hold on to Nintendo as a way to feel like they did back in the "ol' days".
>World praises the likes of The Last of Us
>Game explores many mature themes and has its share of heavy moments
>"TRASH!"
>Splatoon which is a shooter aimed at very young children is released
>GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS
>>336978329
No, I'm an adult and I like adult content in my games.
>>336977912
I see five year old Mario games sitting on shelves, with their prices having never once dropped.
There are games that I can get a year or two after they're released, and only pay a few dollars, but not Nintendo. Nintendo never drops their prices.
Nintendo nailed the previous gen, making this one even more of a disappointment.
>Wii was mostly free of DLC/microtransaction bullshit. Games worked well and you could reuse gamecube memory for saves.
>Wii U has a shit ton of patches and DLC (on top of amiibos) while only coming with 8/16GB standard, which means you have enough space for two patches or so without an external hard drive, which means you have to bring an external drive with you when you move the console SINCE YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO AN EARLIER VERSION IF ONE HAS BEEN INSTALLED ON THE SYSTEM
>DS had ton of innovative new IPs and lots of beautiful spritework which worked well on its low-res display
>3DS has a lot of super aliased 3D games with a single circle pad standard, and the library is mostly inferior sequels to DS games.
why
>>336976947
C'mon man, you can't honestly be justifying censorship.
>>336978349
This. My old group of friends have been riding on Nintendo's dick for decades now, and refuse to acknowledge the good in other consoles. They even go silent when I tell them they're wasting their money just out of loyalty.
>>336977912
Nintendo are top jews for a reason.
Nintendo never puts their 1st party titles on sale. Only time they do its during the holiday season for like 5 dollars off. Other option is to wait for "Gone Gold" but for whatever titles they have select.
>>336978421
Games are inherently childish, there is no such thing as mature content in a video game, just content aimed at edgy 12-13 years old who want to BELIEVE they're being mature.
>>336978290
yeah pokemon was milked as fuck, but we could have full 3D RPG right now and im willing to buy a console just for that to happen
far as earthbound goes, im not saying do earthbound again, im saying to take the design and do something similar, if possible
>>336977912
Just emulate them like everyone else faggot
>>336978349
I haven't played Splatoon, but TLoU was just boring to play. Regardless of the theme and story, the gameplay was just awful.
Can't imagine I'd have much good to say about Splatoon either, but I won't judge without having played it myself.
>>336978421
Bikini isn't adult content, it's just content. Don't think you understand what adult content is little boy. Now, go play your fan service game like senran kagura Jimmy.
>>336971212
It's not, really. 3DS is the system I played the most in recent times. I clocked about 2000 hours in this shit since 2014.
>>336978553
>Games are inherently childish
They WERE, but evolved.
>>336978525
I used to be like that, until I got a PS3. Now I can't look at them the same again. It's funny, more Nintendo fans seem excited for Amiibos which are essentially physical DLC.
>>336971212
they make games for children
children now play fps/dota/lol
>>336978675
TLoU's multiplayer is fantastic though, the mechanics work super well there.
>>336978675
What was wrong with the gameplay in The Last of Us? It worked fine.
>>336978553
This is the opinion of a 19 year old who thinks they're mature.
There's nothing inherently childish or mature about any medium. It's how the content within is handled.
>>336978685
If it's not adult content, why is Nintendo censoring the game to get a lower age rating?
>>336971212
>tfw decide to get the rest of the heart pieces in ALBW
>last piece is stuck behind that retarded octorok derby mini game
theres literally too many pieces walled behind shitty mini games.
god damn, ALBW sucks so much ass with so many heart pieces walled behind mini games
man, Oracles, LA, LttP were all so much better
>>336978504
There is no 16GB Wii U. It's 8 and 32.
Also, 3DS uses a lot of 3D models because they're often cheaper than animated spritework and to make use of the 3D effect. There's a lot less innovative titles on 3DS because mostb of those sold like shit on DS, the developers got killed, and a lot of publishers are only betting on AAA titles.
>>336978891
The bikini isn't to lower the age rating. There are plenty of T rated games with bikinis.
Nintendo, particularly Nintendo of America, seems to have it in their mind that they need to uphold an "image" for themselves, and that image doesn't have overly sexual characters, even if it wouldn't change the rating.
I mean look at Fatal Frame. It's M, and it got censored.
>>336978891
Because they're afraid of what the West thinks of content that could be construed as sexual. They have been for decades, it's not just spooky scary skeletons causing it.
Honest question - does changing the bikinis to something else even actually affect the ESRB rating?
>>336978675
It's worth noting TLOU is apparently best played on the hardest difficulty because it makes it a true survival game.
>>336979041
my bad, I have the 8GB model. needless to say, it's a painful experience.
>>336971552
3D land sucked dicks
ALBW sucked ass
dont know about Wii U, nor do i care
>>336971693
No. It would be fucking horrible. Nintendo has been responsible for almost all major console hardware innovations since the gaming console crash. Without them, none of Sony's, Microsoft's or Sega's consoles would exist as they do today, period. The directional pad, shoulder buttons, integrated analog stick that actually fucking works, gyroscopes, touchscreen integration etc... you wouldn't have your cherished Dual Shock without Nintendo.
Imagine if instead of innovating, console manufacturers just cloned the NES controller or the Atari joystick generation after generation. That's the kind of reality you're going to get if Nintendo goes out of the hardware business. You can just forget console gaming having a future outside of the same fucking recycled gameplay forever and ever, never evolving.
I don't want that, and neither should you.
>>336978349
Splatoon is probably one of the few things Nintendo has done right recently, honestly. Can't say I've ever played Last of Us, I gave up on Naughty Dog games after playing a couple Uncharted games and just being completely underwhelmed the whole way through.
And before anyone accuses me of being a Nintendrone or whatever I'm pretty fed up with their antics. Even as a fan of Zelda I think I'm looking more forward to Gravity Rush 2 than Zelda U.
>>336978891
I honestly believe NoA is censoring games just to get free marketing by getting sites and people to talk about the games in hopes that they draw more curious people than those they lose.
>>336979125
Playing any game outside of its highest difficulty is a waste of itme.
>>336971212
>it's another generic NINTENDOOMED thread
>>336979058
>Nintendo, particularly Nintendo of America, seems to have it in their mind that they need to uphold an "image" for themselves, and that image doesn't have overly sexual characters, even if it wouldn't change the rating.
But you just said bikinis were "content" not "adult content"?
>>336979316
That wasn't me saying that. Sorry for the confusion.
>>336978685
Not him, but saying
>it's just content
doesn't justify censoring it.
Also, who said you get to decide what's "adult" content and whats not?
>>336979124
>Honest question - does changing the bikinis to something else even actually affect the ESRB rating?
Probably not, they want the SJW/Twitter/Tumblr market now, even though they don't really buy games. Pic related.
>>336979252
Thank god that's failing. Fucking cunts.
>>336979420
>Also, who said you get to decide what's "adult" content and whats not?
Ask yourself that
>>336979131
I have a 32 GB Wii U and fucking Xenoblade Chronicles X 15 GB of data for better performance.
I just slapped a 64GB usb drive onto it for games I don't mind losing save data of if it ever fucks up. I use a smaller usb drive to make save backups.
>>336979482
The only censored game so far that's proven to be a success is Fates, but Fates got actual advertising that you'd see on TV, so that's a moot point.
>free online
>everything is 60 fps
>couch co op is standard fare
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
>based handhelds that are pretty much a continuation of gen 6 games in design and gets tons of jap support
>still down to get weird and gamble on fresh concepts like splatoon
why am i supposed to dislike nintendo again?
>>336971212
I gave up on them after the SNES. I did enjoy an N64 because it was innovative, but I didnt have any respect for the company anymore
>>336979482
>failing
It worked spectacularly for Fates, and it might have helped XCX and Fatal Frame too.
>>336979609
>everything is 60 fps
Star Fox Zero.
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
Literally what Star Fox Zero was described as.
>>336979152
I've seen you copy-paste this verbatim in multiple threads now and it's still just as meaningless as the first time.
What the fuck does Nintendo's history of influencing the console market have to do with the current reality of them floundering and having little effect on anything?
>>336979204
>Even as a fan of Zelda I think I'm looking more forward to Gravity Rush 2 than Zelda U.
As an owner of both a Wii U and a PS4, Gravity Rush is more unique and creative than anything Nintendo has released lately. In fact, GR gave me that "Nintendo feeling" when I played it.
>>336979252
In TMS' case, it won't work. Most SMT and afar fans hate it, the game doesn't have an English audio option which scares casuals and a lot of people that liked the game were turned off (like me) because of censorship. I care more about Persona 5 now anyway.
>>336979262
Depends. If a game just gives enemies more HP and make them dish out more damage as a way to make the game hard, then I'm not bothering with higher difficulties.
>>336979552
Literally
>No u
>>336972050
good thing I am just a guy that likes playing games and not an investor then. The games are nice
>>336979378
Scratch that then.
>>336979657
>XCX
800k~ sales worldwide
>Fatal Frame
100k~ sales worldwide
Nah.
>Zelda for Wii U got delayed because of the NX
I will never not be mad at this
>>336971212
>tfw just set up a9lh a few hours ago after being stuck with cakes for a few months
feels so fucking good 3dsbros
>>336979724
#FE was fucked no matter what, but at least censoring costs less than dubbing or marketing.
>>336979845
>>336979657
You're also arguing that the censorship is what drummed up sales for Fates, and not the fact that it was an established franchise on a popular system and got earnest advertising.
I saw ads for Fire Emblem on TV.
>people take pride in what machine they play games on
pathetic.
>>336979724
>Gravity Rush is more unique and creative
literally dive kick the game in a gamethat plays with gravity the way mech warriro did on the nes and snes.
>>336979963
This is how you know that /v/ is just little faggot kid central.
>>336979923
They re-dubbed lines for the game.
>>336978571
>yeah pokemon was milked as fuck, but we could have full 3D RPG
Are you retarded? Those already exist, they're called Colosseum, Gale of Darkness, X/Y and OR/AS
>>336974087
Tell that to the 100 million Wiis rotting in closets. Kek sonyggers lose again. Fuck u
Mario is my waifu
>>336979657
Fatal Frame was a failure but it's pretty clear NoA wanted it to be one. If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
I really think they just want to avoid any possible controversy that might result from these things. Maybe that ridiculous Tomodachi Life incident that ended in CNN calling Nintendo homophobic scared them into thinking they have to bend over for this crowd to avoid bad press.
>>336979731
And? You seem to be upset because I claim a simple bikini isn't adult content. Adult content is more of gore and sex. Look at DoAx3 Venus Swimsuit then back at the FE emblem. Huge difference.
>>336979625
> did enjoy an N64 because it was innovative
man even when people falsflag their supposed nintendo loyalty they shit on the reason.
>>336980102
>Colosseum, Gale of Darkness
They're not proper Pokemon games.
>X/Y and OR/AS
They're the worst entries in the series and have very little content.
>>336979713
You haven't played Star Fox, so yeah, good on you.
>>336980102
How about a full 3D RPG with actual effort put into it. All those games are disgraceful.
>>336980132
>If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
fatal fram sells like shit be physical release or not.
is a prety niche game that wont ever sell good.
>>336980152
I never said you were wrong, clearly you missed the
>Not him
I'm just asking why you think you make the rules.
>>336976919
>metroid
>no depth
>>336980237
pokemon is 3d already
Console version is not happening because pokemon is focused and fitt for mobile and socializing in japan.
>>336971212
All good things must come to an end OP. Nothing lasts forever, OP.
>>336980216
FPS dips are a fact.
Also, this.
> "We want it to be that you can complete the course of the game in the same amount of time you would spend watching a movie, so it's a cinematic experience. -Miyamoto
>>336977773
Yeah man the NES should have used a joystick like a sane console instead of that gimmicky plus shaped thing.
>>336980252
That is exactly their thinking, yes. They conclude a game will never sell, so putting in a downright shameful amount of effort and doing their most to bury it is totally justified...
I mean, like we all remember, Xenoblade was a complete failure because who would buy a JRPG in this day and age, right? Totally justified in trying to sabotage that game, they really did Nintendo a favor there.
>>336980435
it wasnt a movie but a carton episode.
The point of star fox was to simulate a short adventure similar to a saturday morning cartoon or morning animes with different paths like they did with n64 too for some replaybility.
>>336976919
How about you grow up.
Only autists still care about Pokemon, it's like Sonic.
Mario? Zelda? Kirby? i get it.
Pokemon? dear god that's just cringy as fuck.
>>336978349
>The Last of Us
>Game
>>336980491
>>336980542
Miyamoto literally described it as a cinematic experience. Stop with the spin.
>>336980520
xenoblade was a full out blown rpg with a semi open world.
Fatal frame is a more linear game that grabs japanese horror thmes that are not popular anymore and little replay value.
is not something that can be made popular without it becoming mainstream somewhere else.
Is like trying to get blod from a rock.
>Starfox 0, a 3-hour long game with no multiplayer
>90 dollars
Fuck this company. Their games don't even deserve the bandwith to pirate them.
>>336978725
They've been "evolved" for quite a while, senpai. Pic related is from 1986.
>>336980674
I don't think you quite grasp what "cinematic experience" actually means. Protip: it's not the meme "moviegame that plays itself" definition /v/ taught you.
>>336974512
>metroid and earthbound are shit so they deserved to die
>>336980734
The point is they were dead wrong about what fans wanted before but even despite that they still think they know best, and are more than willing to snuff a game out if they decide they don't like it.
>>336980831
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
This is you, or if it's not you, it's the root of the conversation, so don't get smarmy.
I then presented a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, creator of fucking Mario and Zelda, saying that his latest game is literally a cinematic experience.
You then tried to spin that as it being a "cartoon", and not the thing you were bitching about.
>>336980674
you need to realize that miyamoto definition of cinematic is not the same as ours, in the intervie he refers and talks around the cartoony style of the game and how the flow of the game was supposed to be short to emulate a cartoon, this is from the e3 interview where they confirmed multiple paths inside the planet. Another example would be Monolith sayin XenoX would be skyrim like.
>>336971212
They'll make a comeback next year. Believe it!
>>336978891
You have
NO IDEA
what you're talking about, son.
Take a look at some of the games released in the last two years with T ratings and what content is involved with those titles, particularly IFI titles like the Neptune series.
You have no idea, son.
Stop arguing this "censoring for a lower rating"s bullshit because it's completely wrong not to mention disingenuous to argue.
>>336980132
>Fatal Frame was a failure but it's pretty clear NoA wanted it to be one. If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
If I was Nintendo I wouldn't throw a lot of money into such an overwhelmingly niche series either.
>>336980959
>The point is they were dead wrong about what fans wanted before
Even fans of FF know this. We are not delusional like disgeae fans for example.
>>336980958
not him but
>wanting more earthbound when itoi himself said shit's over
>>336980394
The thing is that Nintendo doesn't want to change. Like just listen to the community and observe ffs. No one in their right could defend the shit nintendos been doing the past 2 gens. The wii was a success simply because of the motion control niche. Most people with a wii only had a couple of games for it. So the wiiU was nintendos time to shine and they literally tried to succeed with another gimmick. Someone needs to tell Nintendo to quit it with the gimmicks and create an actual fucking console so we can get actual fucking games. It's time to stop with all the cartoony bs and trying to cater to the "family" audience that doesn't exist. Stereotypical white family that consists of a "cool" dad and mom with little Billy and Susie. That demographic is literally bs and they need to get it through their heads. Even kids don't want to play wiiU, they'd rather play on a Playstation or Xbox.
Nintendo is sitting on literal gold, all they need to do is open their eyes and take it. The nx will flop big time unless it's actually not coming out next March in which case they have a lot of time to market it correctly and get the ball rolling with games.
If the NX can't survive and be a primary console then it's over for Nintendo. The past 2 Nintendo consoles are considered an "extra" console that people own it just for those 1 or 2 games. Real gamers can't game solely on a Nintendo console, it's literally impossible.
>>336981065
Then why would they censor it otherwise, along with the gravure dungeon?
>>336981113
Never said we should get more
>>336980152
>FE emblem
>>336981026
Oh okay. Nintendo does "different" cinematic experience, and those are okay. Not like those other shitty AAA titles.
How does the saying go? It's okay when who does it?
>>336971212
>>336981071
Why does Virtual Console suck so much in North America?
We didn't even get Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii U until this or last week and they haven't released Advance Wars Dual Strike on itb either.
>>336981168
Because it's not about the rating to them. It's about upholding an overall image of the company.
They think they're Disney.
>>336981168
That's for Nintendo to explain to its former fans, after shitting on them, not for us to explain to you.
There's a reason why people are spitting on them--because there is no discernable reason to be doing any of this.
Stop arguing from an ignorant person's point of view.
>>336981265
>Lol I made the same thread but replaced it with Sony
>>336981157
>It's time to stop with all the cartoony bs and trying to cater to the "family" audience that doesn't exist.
This is also a good point. Nintendo needs to make mature franchises. Sony learnt this with the PS3 and judging by the fact that the PS4 is dominating the Wii U says the family market isn't big anymore. That crowd moved onto iOS.
>>336981265
why am I not surprised
>>336981246
You're being purposefully obtuse if you consider SFZ to be anything like, say, Uncharted or Heavy Rain.
If Miyamoto stepped forward and called Mario a first person shooter, that wouldn't make it true.
>>336980612
lol
>>336971212
>he doesn't like metroid
>>336981246
It's funny because Uncharted and TLOU have more content and complexity to them than Star Fox 0.
>>336981157
>The thing is that Nintendo doesn't want to change.
People want them to change into what the others are.
Thats ridiculous i dont want to pay for online or have to sacrifice performance for graphics, nor i want them to jsut make the console a pc port lite.
>they'd rather play on a Playstation or Xbox.
Kids dont play xbox or PS. The average gamer age is fucking 35 Even when CoD peaked in sales only a 10 % of the userbase were actual kids.
People want nintendo to stop focusing on kids when is kids where they are better at.If you dont get new blood by next gen most gamers will have artritis and wont be playing as much anymore.
>>336981386
You're right, SFZ is nothing like Uncharted.
Uncharted has multiplayer.
>>336981503
the worst part of UC is the multiplayer though.
>>336981341
I just don't get it. The game is niche enough, why try to make it appealing to the crowd that doesn't like JRPGs when it's on a dead console too?
>>336981168
Because it makes them look more "mature" ironically enough.
>>336973562
shitposters BTFO
>>336981452
>People want them to change into what the others are.
>Thats ridiculous i dont want to pay for online or have to sacrifice performance for graphics, nor i want them to jsut make the console a pc port lite.
^
>>336981452
And that's why Nintendo will continue to fall short. Just mentioning Nintendo makes people just scoff it off. They'll never be taken seriously anymore at this rate. Hell most people these days don't even take them serious anymore. When I refer to most people I mean the actual average person, not a /v/ lurker who is biased as fuck.
I want Nintendo to come back but they keep pulling away. It's pretty sad really.
I thought that last year was supposed to be the rough transitioning year, but I just don't get why they're only showing a single game at this E3. I don't think this is even a case of NOGAMES, because they're not even showing off the FUCKING NX, A BRAND NEW FUCKING CONSOLE THAT'S COMING OUT IN LESS THAN A YEAR. Where is Pokémon Sun and Moon? Why not show off Kirby: Planet Robobot and TMS: #FE, even if they have already come out in Japan? What about Dragon Quest VII and VIII which have already been confirmed for localization? A MOTHER 3 release this year has all but been confirmed. What about NX games? Can they show off the new Zelda without showcasing anything for the NX? Super Smash Bros. for NX has basically been confirmed already, and there's even Dragon Quest XI. According to rumors, the NX seems to have many games in development for it, including games that were originally intended for the Wii U.
So where is all this? I know that Zelda is the most anticipated game, but WHY NOT FUCKING SHOW EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'VE SPOKEN ABOUT AND HINTED AT?
It leads me to believe that they have something huge up their sleeve that they're not telling anyone, or that they've given up.
>>336981669
Excuse me, can you respond to this? >>336973751
Or these?
>>336973308
>>336973568
>>336974794
How am I shitposting?
>>336981069
Then why even bother bringing it to the US in the first place? Really I don't think it should NoA's place to decide what games should and should not be allowed to be given a chance. If Nintendo tells them to bring it to America they should do it without pulling their dumb shit of trying to kill games they don't like, especially since we have evidence of games they thought wouldn't sell and tried to kill that wound up being popular anyway.
They are proven to be too stupid to make these sorts of decisions so they should just quit bellyaching and just do their jobs regardless of what they think.
Uhh, Nintendo?????????
>>336981452
>Kids dont play xbox or PS.
Anon...
>>336974512
>Realizes Sin and Punishment 3 never happen now that Treasure is dead
>>336981865
>All that multiplat garbage
>Almost no exclusives
>Uncharted 4
>>336981587
So they try the game. I'd assume quite a lot of actual girls bought a console to play Splatoon, and they'd like the singing and whatnot, so it's always safer to make it more family friendly.
