This fucking company man. It's just fucking sad.
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This fucking company man.
It's just fucking sad.
yup
>>336971212
JUST
>not liking mario and zelda
Not as sad as Sony.
>>336971552
It's time, Anon. There is only hurt for you here.
>>>/vr/
Yes. Hopefully they go 3rd party soon. I'm sick of spending money on their hardware.
>>336971648
What do you mean?
And why did you bring up Sony anyways?
>>336971732
Oh I think you know why I mentioned Sony.
They need to accept that they have to catch up to the rest of the gaming market.
Their family gaming shtick isn't going to cut it anymore. Kids, and their parents, are going to want cooler consoles that look better, and have better games than Three Hour Fox.
>>336971865
You didn't answer the question
Why are you bringing Sony?
>>336971552
>liking mario and zelda
what are you, a fucking causal?
>>336971732
Because it's a sinking ship that seperated the PlayStation brand in order to avoid it from going down with the rest of the Sony. Basically if the PS4.5 bombs so will the rest of the company. Nintendo has only been in the red 2013 and 2014 after the N64
>>336971552
>Mario
>Zelda
Sorry but i already grow hair in the balls
they fucked up. they need to make some new games. they can't keep relying on the same 3 games every gen
>>336971552
How many times do you need to play the same games ? Do you also spend thousands of hours watching the same movies and series ?
>>336972050
>Sony doomed since 2006
>T-they are going bankrupt guys!
>Meanwhile they are doing more money
>>336972082
No, but people still get excited for new star wars movies...
>>336972189
We don't get Star War movies each year.
>>336972182
>Meanwhile they are doing more money
What did he mean by this?
Have you forgotten, they blew through all their PS2 money on the PS3
>>336972395
They already recovered anon
PS+ and strong PS4 sales
Eat shit
>it's a Nintendo is dying again episode
>>336971951
Cuz can't afford PS4 :^)
>>336972182
>T-there won't be a PS4
>>336972503
Sad doesn't mean dying. Nintendo is just pitiful. Out of touch with reality, only supported by the dying population of nostalgia driven deviants.
>>336972050
>How dare they make a smart decision as a company!
Also even if the PS4.5 bombs, they'll still survive.
>>336972075
They made several new IPs this gen, but no one bought most of them.
Only Splatoon and Pushmo seemed to do well.
>>336972503
Maybe not but they aren't certainly doing right
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/27/nintendo-profits-down-61-percent
>>336971552
Why is Zelda still relevant? What does it do better than other games?
Block puzzles?
>>336972685
PS4.5 will be pretty much a success
People always buy more and better powerful hardware
Look at PC fags and iPhone users
Anyway, this isn't the topic of this thread.
>>336972317
We will now
>>336972317
Besides the NES and the Wii there has only been 1 mainline Mario game on each console. So on average one every 3 years
>>336972851
Yeah, let's conveniently forget the endless spin-offs and handheld games.
>>336972912
Lets not pretend Disney doesn't throw Mickey Mouse on literally everything that isn't a movie
>Tfw it was Tokyo Mirage Session that made you completely lose interest in anything they do that isn't a handheld.
All I wanted was a good rpg and was willing to look past the idols but what I got was a vision into the soon to be dark days.
>>336972725
The bosses are usually pretty neat.
>Its another "Sony is going bankrupt first" episode, when the PS3 debt has been paid back in full with the PS4's 40 million sales and counting
I don't get it. Its like, regardless of how many PS4s they sale, its always the same fucking response on how they are going bankrupt. Nintendo isn't going bankrupt either. Why are people so desperate for video game companies to go bankrupt?
>>336971212
10 years ago i might have cared but the Wii killed any interest i had in them as a company.
Stupid retarded decisions, meme controllers and no games and stupid hardware is how you kill a company.
I really wish sega was still alive to day but nooooooooooooooooooooo instead we have Nintendoh, Xbawx1111One111 and the PS4 downgrade
>>336971552
LOL the Wii u never got its own Zelda game
it had to get it gimped and wait for the NX
HAHAHAHAHHA
>>336971212
Meh. I like their3dsgames.
>>336972317
We do now anon. We do now. Rogue One is seen as a transitional movie to lead into episode 8, which will probably come out in 2017, and if not then, 2018 with another transitional movie for 2017 as well.
>>336973093
Except the thread is not about bankruptcy or profit at all
>>336973092
I'm honestly genuinely wondering.
It certainly doesn't have the best exploration, I don't think its action is particularly in depth compared to other games. Does it come down to the puzzles?
What makes it seemly such a big deal still?
>>336973093
They want all the games, but can only afford one console.
>>336973092
Oh yeah, I sure do love using the latest item I got to hit the boss in his giant glowing weak spot over and over 3 times.
>>336972725
>>336973278
You speak as someone who has never played one before.
Maybe the problem is you
>>336973308
Like, I understand Mario.
Mechanically, Mario is some top notch platforming. Like, the best in its genre. I'm not sure what Zelda provides that other adventure, RPG, or even puzzle games don't provide.
>>336973562
I have played Zelda before, though.
Link's Awakening was one of the earliest defining memories I have a video game. It's the first game I remember feeling accomplished beating. It was an amazingly little adventure game that came in a handheld, and provided an experience I couldn't get anywhere else.
OoT was this fully fleshed out 3D world with tons of character and mystery to it that gave a truly unique atmosphere and experience.
But times change. Genres evolve. I'm asking, what exactly does a Zelda game nowadays give that isn't readily available in countless other games?
>>336973208
Dear god, console wars are a meme that has been perpetuated through generations by pissed off sega kids.
Do you realize what you have done?
>>336973092
Disney are some of the biggest jews on the planet. That isn't surprising at all.
>>336971648
Tell that to the 40 million PS4 units sold
>>336974078
Meant for
>>336973035
>>336972693
What new ips?
Splatoon and steam?
>>336973208
>meme controllers and no games
YEP definitely a part of the Wii generation
>>336972720
Looking at the actual numbers it isn't nearly as disastrous as this clickbait headline would have you believe, they barely missed their projections.
>>336973568
Well designed dungeons with puzzles you can't solve at first, but you can once you return with the right item. It gives a lot of epiphanies.
Also, the pre-Twilight Princess games were full of content. There was something to find everywhere. Instead of having a massive world that takes an hour or two to walk across with big stretches of nothing or just random things, everything is condensed and deliberately placed.
I agree, they need to go second party to us epic sonybros.
>>336974224
>Instead of having a massive world that takes an hour or two to walk across with big stretches of nothing or just random things
You mean Wind Waker?
Just play it safe as an oldfag and say pre-N64
>>336971212
>thread possibly about Nintendo losing their way maybe even finically too
>not even 5 post in and Sony is mentioned and threads turns into another shit flinging discussion
Please get it through your heads Nintendofags
Not everyone plays let alone own a Sony console
Some of us exclusively use Nintendo
Some of us exclusively use PC
Some may use Sony products hell some may use all of them but to easily get rustled and start calling out Sony when Nintendo is becoming another shit publisher and developer is sad and paranoid
>>336971212
metroid and earthbound are shit so they deserved to die.
this is a small list of their dead franchises that actually deserve the love that they get but no one on /v/ ever talks about them (aside from f-zero)
f-zero
custom robo
advance wars
sin and punishment
kid Icarus
>>336974212
They sold a majority of the Mariners ownership
Baseball prints money even when you fail unless you live in Florida where they don't even give a shit about sports unless they have a star player or two i.e. the largest bandwagon state ever excluding small portions of Tampa bay
Their excuse was it was time to give ownership back to Seattle , nothing noting iwata's death
This came one day after a investors meeting where they said they were reconstruct how they operate business after another disappointing year of loss in profit
When you have to sell a printing making machine like a baseball team then something is wrong
>>336974224
>Well designed dungeons with puzzles you can't solve at first, but you can once you return with the right item. It gives a lot of epiphanies.
So does it come down to the puzzles?
Is Zelda's niche being a genre defining puzzle game?
Cause that doesn't feel right to me. What I enjoyed the most about Zelda never really came from stepping on switches and pushing blocks, while occasionally using items.
At the same time though, I'm not sure what it uniquely offers anymore that other games do.
It's not a full on RPG- it lacks the depth of all that. It's trumped by countless other games having bigger worlds and more oddities to find in nooks and crannies of it.
I just can't rightly place what makes Zelda as special anymore than it was in 1998.
Can Nintendo do anything with the NX to redeem themselves not only to their older fans but to the media that blasts it as well?
>>336974512
I would replace custom robo with metroid, the mother series shouldn't be touched for fear of it going to shit. Other that that I r8 this post
GUD SHIT/10
>>336974794
other games don't*
>>336974865
metroid uses the same goddamn formula over and over and its a piece of shit
>>336974824
I think so. It's going to come down to the games.
>>336975014
Metroid is like chocolate cake.
Once you have the recipe down, don't fuck if up
>>336974152
>Splatoon
>Codename Steam
>Pushmo and two sequels with different gameplay
>Steel Diver and Sub Wars which plays very differently from each other
>Sakura Samurai
>Dillon's Rolling Western
>Ketzal's Corridor
>Wonderful 101
>Rusty's Baseball
>that soccer manager game in JP and EU
If we add spinoffs
>Star Fox Guard
>Nintendoland
>NES Remix
>Pokken Tournament
>Hyrule Warriors
>Captain Toad
>>336975330
doesn't it ever get boring?
>>336972182
>doing more money
Nintendo is responsible for my two favorite and completely perfect games in my opinion.
I'll always be excited about that.
Metroid Prime, and Mario Galaxy are perfect games. They're still fun to replay
>>336975492
Not when it's this good
>>336975014
2D Metroid has two formulas.
>>336971884
>Kids, and their parents, are going to continue playing on their phones and tablets and not give a shit about consoles
FTFY. Many of my cousins have kids of their own now, the only things these kids play are endless runners and Angry Birds on their moms' iPhones.
>>336974750
They bought the Mariners in order to keep the team in Seattle, they hoped that doing so would raise favor with the city so they could build their American headquarters there. I won't deny that it could mean something troublesome for them financially, but I don't think the team ownership was ever a permanent thing,
>>336971212
You know what is even sadder? Their current fanbase defending them every time they fuck up
>>336973091
>An Atlus game made you completely lose faith in Nintendo
u wot m8?
>>336974512
The wars games are fun. Theyre better than fucking fire emblems.
sega adapted,konami adapted,namco adapted,capcom adapted
only nintendo didn't
>>336976129
>Waah why isn't Nintendo making game on PC like all these other failures that now have to resort to fucking pachinko scams to make money?
>>336975390
I'm not that same guy, and I even have a Wii U and my sister a 3DS, and I really don't even know about half of those.
ITT: plebs recognize the reality of impermanence for the first time
>>336976220
the thing is nobody buys consoles anymore, americans and asians are the only ones that consoles is still a thing
in any other place people either play button mashers on the ps3-4 or simply play their game on the pc, because having pc and emulators beats anything a console brings to the table
>>336971648
Like fucking clockwork.
>>336971552
>Mario has become more homogenized than ever and all of the spinoff series (Mario Kart being the only one excluded for some reason) have been suffering because they're forced to fall in line with the NSMB formula
>Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, all of them have basically no content and nothing original in them anymore
>Even 3D Mario has had to transform into a more 2D Mario-like form
>We've only had one traditional Zelda this gen and it was mostly only good because of how much it copied a game from well over 20 years ago
>Wii U will never get a Zelda exclusive to call its own, and it's the first Nintendo console this has ever happened to
It has not been a good gen, anon.
>>336975995
No ones defending FedForce or Colorsplash
>>336976091
Fire Emblem just got extremely lucky by releasing Awakening when the only other RPG on 3DS was port of Tales of the Abyss in all three regions, and everyone was itching for a numbers going up simulator.
Then actually marketed Fates well which to Nintendo's surprise is an effective strategy.
>>336976306
Nintendo consistently dropped the ball when it came to marketing most of them.
>>336975390
Only Splatoon and Steam were marketed, though. The rest were sent off and ignored
>Nintendo is pushing to help themselves be better
>ABLOOBLOO NINTENDOOM THIS IS SAD
You fuckers aren't helping
When did you finally have enough of Nintendo, /v/?
>>336976440
>Nintendo consistently dropped the ball when it came to marketing most of them.
I'm still amazed at how retarded the businessmen at Nintendo are. Holy shit I think some run of the mill McDonald's manager would do a better job.
The 3DS and Wii really were dumb luck.
>>336976408
This fucking autism. Why do sonyggers get so triggered
>>336976487
Yeah, right after I posted I wanted to say Instead that they didn't even show up to the game.
Anyone else excited to see how badly the NX is gonna do?
>>336976563
>The 3DS and Wii really were dumb luck.
A lot of people seem to forget, but the 3DS was a MAJOR flop until they slashed the price and decided to take a loss for a few years. Until they cut the price, a lot of developers cancelled games for it.
>>336976581
>Literally proving the picture right by using "sonygger"
>also implying I'm some poor faggot like him who can't afford multiple platforms
Wew
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Lad
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>Delay NX, and skip E3 to give themselves a chance to make a better reveal and release
>People are shitposting them to death pretending they ever gave a shit or care
This is more toxic than Gamergate and you know it
>>336976728
As a PS4 and Wii U owner, I am. Nintendo needs to have a major reality check.
>>336976776
What games got cancelled besides Legends 3?
>>336976551
when they chose to milk mario instead of moving on with some more interesting titles like pokemon and earthbound
so, long time ago.
yeah, mario and metroid are cool games indeed but there is no depth to them, so there is a limit to how much you can play the same game with different level design's.
the thing is about pokemon and earthbound is that there is so much more to do with it rather than mario
>>336976551
Censor fag please fuck off
The clothes on the left are better
>>336976776
Define cancel
Capcom were fucking idiots about MML3
>>336976776
The 3DS had all of the same problems the Wii U did (Dumb and confusing name, lackluster marketing, atrocious gimmicks that jacked up the price to far more than the things were worth, etc), the only reason the 3DS didn't bomb as hard in the long run was because Nintendo has hardly any competition in the handheld market.
>>336976413
Virtual Boy didn't have a Zelda exclusive either.
>>336976848
They're still playing catch up. I think it would be better for them if they bit the bullet and hanged on until Sony and Microsoft beging their next consoles. Meanwhile, they could make the Wii U a somewhat wortwhile thing with a Zelda, Metroid and some more other interesting shit.
But, they prefer to play catch up. Again.
>>336976908
Just Google cancelled 3DS games. Keep in mind that these games were practically cancelled around the same time and Nintendo were trying to prove they were good with third party developers.
>>336976919
People who want more Earthbound games are missing the fucking point and probably don't give a shit about what Itoi wants.
Also, every game in the series had a bothersome development.
>>336976413
Well they say the NSMB series is over so we'll see what comes next I suppose.
>>336976947
>The clothes on the left are better
No they're not. Lingerie would be more fun to look at while playing. That's why I'm going to have my Wii U and play the game with the English text added to the Japanese version.
>>336977001
VB was a handheld, technically, not a console.
Even still, if we were to consider all Nintendo systems, handheld and home consoles, the only ones without Zelda were VB and Wii U, and any situation where something winds up next to the VB just highlights how dire things are.
>>336976728
>>336976864
>Implying the Wii U wasn't already a reality check
You guys forcing yourselves to be negative on the NX when it's Nintendo's chance to redo everything isn't helping
It's the equivalent of laughing at a Fatass whose trying to excercise and lose weight
Seriously, stop, it's fucking clear Nintendo is trying to fix themselves with the NX
>>336976960
I'd say the reduced price helped too. At the time, the price was awful.
>>336977075
They won't even play catch up properly. They'll have an archaic online system and policies with censorship.
>>336976551
Why don't they just make her wear a burka at this point?
>>336977316
>it's fucking clear Nintendo is trying to fix themselves
They aren't. I wanna see them fail. And thankfully they seem to be doing everything they can to make my wish come true.
>>336977316
I have no faith in them. Remember, they're releasing in a generation where the PS4 has a major stronghold.
>>336977316
We know nothing about the NX, how can you say they're trying to improve when we know absolutely nothing about what they're doing beyond this year besides "new console" and "new Zelda"?
I want to see them improve but I will not give them the benefit of the doubt anymore and just assume they are going to do better.
>>336977316
>Nintendo is a person
>Nintendo takes time to listen to fans
Everything in your post is absolutely wrong.
>>336977083
I've found about 15-20 cancelled games. Most seemed like shovelware or cash grabs based on console series, but I'm sad about that Bomberman game.
>>336977623
Regardless, this was a time when we only really had OOT3D. It had an effect on Nintendo because soon after they slashed its price and apologised to early adopters.
>>336977316
What are they doing exactly to get out of their funk?
Are they creating a console with up to date specs (for consoles mind you) that uses a normal, non gimmicky controller while catering to third party devs with easy to program for hardware and modern/current physical media like blurays?
I'm betting the answer is no on all of that.
>>336977529
We also know it's not going to sell at a loss.
>>336977316
>"Re're sorry you bought our failure"
>"Prease buy NX, Re wont fuckkuppu again honrestry"
I'll wait till I see promising signs.
>>336977608
isn't the higher up executive of nintendo some 90 yr old yakuza guy?
get some fresh people with fresh ideas in there,keep the designers but try to move forward with whats next
>>336976129
>konami adapted
well they did, but in the worst way possible
>EROTIC ACTION
>grew up with Nintendo
>2nd console was an SNES
>loved it to death
>years later bought a N3DS
>"yes, I can finally play some modern Nintendo games on the go!"
>"oh, games are sorta pricey on the eshop"
>"better wait for a sale"
>1st party games never got discounted, except indies
>Shantae is 50% off
>live in third world country, can't buy eshop codes directly
>go to paypal to buy codes
>"sorry, this account must in the NA for you purchase codes"
>humble bundle has Shantae for 1 dollar
>bought it
Nintendo hates other countries and I highly doubt Nintendo will ever sell their Marios and Zeldas for cheap or ever put them in humble bundle. Now I understand why people want to hack their 3DSes. This tedium is annoying.
Why are Nintendo fans usually so fucking weird? You know the type I mean.
>>336976947
>Being cucked this hard that they have to live in denial that they actually ENJOY the censored content more
Only Nintendrones.
>>336977819
I'm not saying it's wrong to do because it isn't wrong, but isn't people waiting for x game to come out what killed the Wii U's early sales and subsequently drove off third parties because of a small install base which further killed sales?
>>336976519
>Nintendo is pushing to help themselves be better
If that's true, they're pretty bad at it.
>>336976919
>He actually thinks pokémon isn't getting milked
>He actually thinks Mario wasn't being milked before Earthbound was a thing
>He actually fucking WANTS EARTHBOUND TO BE MILKED EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONE OF THE RARE RPG SERIES THAT ACTUALLY KNEW TO QUIT WHILE THEY WERE AHEAD INSTEAD OF GETTING CANCELED AT A CLIFFHANGER OR ETERNALLY REHASHED UNTIL IT BECOMES SHIT
Holy shit I've seen bad tastes and stupidity in my day but good lord if you aren't breaking some fucking records here lad.
>>336977830
He's a longtime businessman who thought the Wii U was a mistake from the very beginning for being too much like the Wii. I think that already makes him look more competent than all the people that pushed the Wii U forward, at least.
>>336977184
How old are you? 13?
>>336971212
I'm still confused who greenlit changing the logo to this horrid thing. White font on red background is just really shitty to look at. Makes me want to look AWAY from it.
>>336978034
A lot of them hold on to Nintendo as a way to feel like they did back in the "ol' days".
>World praises the likes of The Last of Us
>Game explores many mature themes and has its share of heavy moments
>"TRASH!"
>Splatoon which is a shooter aimed at very young children is released
>GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS
>>336978329
No, I'm an adult and I like adult content in my games.
>>336977912
I see five year old Mario games sitting on shelves, with their prices having never once dropped.
There are games that I can get a year or two after they're released, and only pay a few dollars, but not Nintendo. Nintendo never drops their prices.
Nintendo nailed the previous gen, making this one even more of a disappointment.
>Wii was mostly free of DLC/microtransaction bullshit. Games worked well and you could reuse gamecube memory for saves.
>Wii U has a shit ton of patches and DLC (on top of amiibos) while only coming with 8/16GB standard, which means you have enough space for two patches or so without an external hard drive, which means you have to bring an external drive with you when you move the console SINCE YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO AN EARLIER VERSION IF ONE HAS BEEN INSTALLED ON THE SYSTEM
>DS had ton of innovative new IPs and lots of beautiful spritework which worked well on its low-res display
>3DS has a lot of super aliased 3D games with a single circle pad standard, and the library is mostly inferior sequels to DS games.
why
>>336976947
C'mon man, you can't honestly be justifying censorship.
>>336978349
This. My old group of friends have been riding on Nintendo's dick for decades now, and refuse to acknowledge the good in other consoles. They even go silent when I tell them they're wasting their money just out of loyalty.
>>336977912
Nintendo are top jews for a reason.
Nintendo never puts their 1st party titles on sale. Only time they do its during the holiday season for like 5 dollars off. Other option is to wait for "Gone Gold" but for whatever titles they have select.
>>336978421
Games are inherently childish, there is no such thing as mature content in a video game, just content aimed at edgy 12-13 years old who want to BELIEVE they're being mature.
>>336978290
yeah pokemon was milked as fuck, but we could have full 3D RPG right now and im willing to buy a console just for that to happen
far as earthbound goes, im not saying do earthbound again, im saying to take the design and do something similar, if possible
>>336977912
Just emulate them like everyone else faggot
>>336978349
I haven't played Splatoon, but TLoU was just boring to play. Regardless of the theme and story, the gameplay was just awful.
Can't imagine I'd have much good to say about Splatoon either, but I won't judge without having played it myself.
>>336978421
Bikini isn't adult content, it's just content. Don't think you understand what adult content is little boy. Now, go play your fan service game like senran kagura Jimmy.
>>336971212
It's not, really. 3DS is the system I played the most in recent times. I clocked about 2000 hours in this shit since 2014.
>>336978553
>Games are inherently childish
They WERE, but evolved.
>>336978525
I used to be like that, until I got a PS3. Now I can't look at them the same again. It's funny, more Nintendo fans seem excited for Amiibos which are essentially physical DLC.
>>336971212
they make games for children
children now play fps/dota/lol
>>336978675
TLoU's multiplayer is fantastic though, the mechanics work super well there.
>>336978675
What was wrong with the gameplay in The Last of Us? It worked fine.
>>336978553
This is the opinion of a 19 year old who thinks they're mature.
There's nothing inherently childish or mature about any medium. It's how the content within is handled.
>>336978685
If it's not adult content, why is Nintendo censoring the game to get a lower age rating?
>>336971212
>tfw decide to get the rest of the heart pieces in ALBW
>last piece is stuck behind that retarded octorok derby mini game
theres literally too many pieces walled behind shitty mini games.
god damn, ALBW sucks so much ass with so many heart pieces walled behind mini games
man, Oracles, LA, LttP were all so much better
>>336978504
There is no 16GB Wii U. It's 8 and 32.
Also, 3DS uses a lot of 3D models because they're often cheaper than animated spritework and to make use of the 3D effect. There's a lot less innovative titles on 3DS because mostb of those sold like shit on DS, the developers got killed, and a lot of publishers are only betting on AAA titles.
>>336978891
The bikini isn't to lower the age rating. There are plenty of T rated games with bikinis.
Nintendo, particularly Nintendo of America, seems to have it in their mind that they need to uphold an "image" for themselves, and that image doesn't have overly sexual characters, even if it wouldn't change the rating.
I mean look at Fatal Frame. It's M, and it got censored.
>>336978891
Because they're afraid of what the West thinks of content that could be construed as sexual. They have been for decades, it's not just spooky scary skeletons causing it.
Honest question - does changing the bikinis to something else even actually affect the ESRB rating?
>>336978675
It's worth noting TLOU is apparently best played on the hardest difficulty because it makes it a true survival game.
>>336979041
my bad, I have the 8GB model. needless to say, it's a painful experience.
>>336971552
3D land sucked dicks
ALBW sucked ass
dont know about Wii U, nor do i care
>>336971693
No. It would be fucking horrible. Nintendo has been responsible for almost all major console hardware innovations since the gaming console crash. Without them, none of Sony's, Microsoft's or Sega's consoles would exist as they do today, period. The directional pad, shoulder buttons, integrated analog stick that actually fucking works, gyroscopes, touchscreen integration etc... you wouldn't have your cherished Dual Shock without Nintendo.
Imagine if instead of innovating, console manufacturers just cloned the NES controller or the Atari joystick generation after generation. That's the kind of reality you're going to get if Nintendo goes out of the hardware business. You can just forget console gaming having a future outside of the same fucking recycled gameplay forever and ever, never evolving.
I don't want that, and neither should you.
>>336978349
Splatoon is probably one of the few things Nintendo has done right recently, honestly. Can't say I've ever played Last of Us, I gave up on Naughty Dog games after playing a couple Uncharted games and just being completely underwhelmed the whole way through.
And before anyone accuses me of being a Nintendrone or whatever I'm pretty fed up with their antics. Even as a fan of Zelda I think I'm looking more forward to Gravity Rush 2 than Zelda U.
>>336978891
I honestly believe NoA is censoring games just to get free marketing by getting sites and people to talk about the games in hopes that they draw more curious people than those they lose.
>>336979125
Playing any game outside of its highest difficulty is a waste of itme.
>>336971212
>it's another generic NINTENDOOMED thread
>>336979058
>Nintendo, particularly Nintendo of America, seems to have it in their mind that they need to uphold an "image" for themselves, and that image doesn't have overly sexual characters, even if it wouldn't change the rating.
But you just said bikinis were "content" not "adult content"?
>>336979316
That wasn't me saying that. Sorry for the confusion.
>>336978685
Not him, but saying
>it's just content
doesn't justify censoring it.
Also, who said you get to decide what's "adult" content and whats not?
>>336979124
>Honest question - does changing the bikinis to something else even actually affect the ESRB rating?
Probably not, they want the SJW/Twitter/Tumblr market now, even though they don't really buy games. Pic related.
>>336979252
Thank god that's failing. Fucking cunts.
>>336979420
>Also, who said you get to decide what's "adult" content and whats not?
Ask yourself that
>>336979131
I have a 32 GB Wii U and fucking Xenoblade Chronicles X 15 GB of data for better performance.
I just slapped a 64GB usb drive onto it for games I don't mind losing save data of if it ever fucks up. I use a smaller usb drive to make save backups.
>>336979482
The only censored game so far that's proven to be a success is Fates, but Fates got actual advertising that you'd see on TV, so that's a moot point.
>free online
>everything is 60 fps
>couch co op is standard fare
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
>based handhelds that are pretty much a continuation of gen 6 games in design and gets tons of jap support
>still down to get weird and gamble on fresh concepts like splatoon
why am i supposed to dislike nintendo again?
>>336971212
I gave up on them after the SNES. I did enjoy an N64 because it was innovative, but I didnt have any respect for the company anymore
>>336979482
>failing
It worked spectacularly for Fates, and it might have helped XCX and Fatal Frame too.
>>336979609
>everything is 60 fps
Star Fox Zero.
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
Literally what Star Fox Zero was described as.
>>336979152
I've seen you copy-paste this verbatim in multiple threads now and it's still just as meaningless as the first time.
What the fuck does Nintendo's history of influencing the console market have to do with the current reality of them floundering and having little effect on anything?
>>336979204
>Even as a fan of Zelda I think I'm looking more forward to Gravity Rush 2 than Zelda U.
As an owner of both a Wii U and a PS4, Gravity Rush is more unique and creative than anything Nintendo has released lately. In fact, GR gave me that "Nintendo feeling" when I played it.
>>336979252
In TMS' case, it won't work. Most SMT and afar fans hate it, the game doesn't have an English audio option which scares casuals and a lot of people that liked the game were turned off (like me) because of censorship. I care more about Persona 5 now anyway.
>>336979262
Depends. If a game just gives enemies more HP and make them dish out more damage as a way to make the game hard, then I'm not bothering with higher difficulties.
>>336979552
Literally
>No u
>>336972050
good thing I am just a guy that likes playing games and not an investor then. The games are nice
>>336979378
Scratch that then.
>>336979657
>XCX
800k~ sales worldwide
>Fatal Frame
100k~ sales worldwide
Nah.
>Zelda for Wii U got delayed because of the NX
I will never not be mad at this
>>336971212
>tfw just set up a9lh a few hours ago after being stuck with cakes for a few months
feels so fucking good 3dsbros
>>336979724
#FE was fucked no matter what, but at least censoring costs less than dubbing or marketing.
>>336979845
>>336979657
You're also arguing that the censorship is what drummed up sales for Fates, and not the fact that it was an established franchise on a popular system and got earnest advertising.
I saw ads for Fire Emblem on TV.
>people take pride in what machine they play games on
pathetic.
>>336979724
>Gravity Rush is more unique and creative
literally dive kick the game in a gamethat plays with gravity the way mech warriro did on the nes and snes.
>>336979963
This is how you know that /v/ is just little faggot kid central.
>>336979923
They re-dubbed lines for the game.
>>336978571
>yeah pokemon was milked as fuck, but we could have full 3D RPG
Are you retarded? Those already exist, they're called Colosseum, Gale of Darkness, X/Y and OR/AS
>>336974087
Tell that to the 100 million Wiis rotting in closets. Kek sonyggers lose again. Fuck u
Mario is my waifu
>>336979657
Fatal Frame was a failure but it's pretty clear NoA wanted it to be one. If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
I really think they just want to avoid any possible controversy that might result from these things. Maybe that ridiculous Tomodachi Life incident that ended in CNN calling Nintendo homophobic scared them into thinking they have to bend over for this crowd to avoid bad press.
>>336979731
And? You seem to be upset because I claim a simple bikini isn't adult content. Adult content is more of gore and sex. Look at DoAx3 Venus Swimsuit then back at the FE emblem. Huge difference.
>>336979625
> did enjoy an N64 because it was innovative
man even when people falsflag their supposed nintendo loyalty they shit on the reason.
>>336980102
>Colosseum, Gale of Darkness
They're not proper Pokemon games.
>X/Y and OR/AS
They're the worst entries in the series and have very little content.
>>336979713
You haven't played Star Fox, so yeah, good on you.
>>336980102
How about a full 3D RPG with actual effort put into it. All those games are disgraceful.
>>336980132
>If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
fatal fram sells like shit be physical release or not.
is a prety niche game that wont ever sell good.
>>336980152
I never said you were wrong, clearly you missed the
>Not him
I'm just asking why you think you make the rules.
>>336976919
>metroid
>no depth
>>336980237
pokemon is 3d already
Console version is not happening because pokemon is focused and fitt for mobile and socializing in japan.
>>336971212
All good things must come to an end OP. Nothing lasts forever, OP.
>>336980216
FPS dips are a fact.
Also, this.
> "We want it to be that you can complete the course of the game in the same amount of time you would spend watching a movie, so it's a cinematic experience. -Miyamoto
>>336977773
Yeah man the NES should have used a joystick like a sane console instead of that gimmicky plus shaped thing.
>>336980252
That is exactly their thinking, yes. They conclude a game will never sell, so putting in a downright shameful amount of effort and doing their most to bury it is totally justified...
I mean, like we all remember, Xenoblade was a complete failure because who would buy a JRPG in this day and age, right? Totally justified in trying to sabotage that game, they really did Nintendo a favor there.
>>336980435
it wasnt a movie but a carton episode.
The point of star fox was to simulate a short adventure similar to a saturday morning cartoon or morning animes with different paths like they did with n64 too for some replaybility.
>>336976919
How about you grow up.
Only autists still care about Pokemon, it's like Sonic.
Mario? Zelda? Kirby? i get it.
Pokemon? dear god that's just cringy as fuck.
>>336978349
>The Last of Us
>Game
>>336980542
Miyamoto literally described it as a cinematic experience. Stop with the spin.
>>336980520
xenoblade was a full out blown rpg with a semi open world.
Fatal frame is a more linear game that grabs japanese horror thmes that are not popular anymore and little replay value.
is not something that can be made popular without it becoming mainstream somewhere else.
Is like trying to get blod from a rock.
>Starfox 0, a 3-hour long game with no multiplayer
>90 dollars
Fuck this company. Their games don't even deserve the bandwith to pirate them.
>>336978725
They've been "evolved" for quite a while, senpai. Pic related is from 1986.
>>336980674
I don't think you quite grasp what "cinematic experience" actually means. Protip: it's not the meme "moviegame that plays itself" definition /v/ taught you.
>>336974512
>metroid and earthbound are shit so they deserved to die
>>336980734
The point is they were dead wrong about what fans wanted before but even despite that they still think they know best, and are more than willing to snuff a game out if they decide they don't like it.
>>336980831
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
This is you, or if it's not you, it's the root of the conversation, so don't get smarmy.
I then presented a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, creator of fucking Mario and Zelda, saying that his latest game is literally a cinematic experience.
You then tried to spin that as it being a "cartoon", and not the thing you were bitching about.
>>336980674
you need to realize that miyamoto definition of cinematic is not the same as ours, in the intervie he refers and talks around the cartoony style of the game and how the flow of the game was supposed to be short to emulate a cartoon, this is from the e3 interview where they confirmed multiple paths inside the planet. Another example would be Monolith sayin XenoX would be skyrim like.
>>336971212
They'll make a comeback next year. Believe it!
>>336978891
You have
NO IDEA
what you're talking about, son.
Take a look at some of the games released in the last two years with T ratings and what content is involved with those titles, particularly IFI titles like the Neptune series.
You have no idea, son.
Stop arguing this "censoring for a lower rating"s bullshit because it's completely wrong not to mention disingenuous to argue.
>>336980132
>Fatal Frame was a failure but it's pretty clear NoA wanted it to be one. If they wanted it to sell they wouldn't have made it digital only.
If I was Nintendo I wouldn't throw a lot of money into such an overwhelmingly niche series either.
>>336980959
>The point is they were dead wrong about what fans wanted before
Even fans of FF know this. We are not delusional like disgeae fans for example.
>>336980958
not him but
>wanting more earthbound when itoi himself said shit's over
>>336980394
The thing is that Nintendo doesn't want to change. Like just listen to the community and observe ffs. No one in their right could defend the shit nintendos been doing the past 2 gens. The wii was a success simply because of the motion control niche. Most people with a wii only had a couple of games for it. So the wiiU was nintendos time to shine and they literally tried to succeed with another gimmick. Someone needs to tell Nintendo to quit it with the gimmicks and create an actual fucking console so we can get actual fucking games. It's time to stop with all the cartoony bs and trying to cater to the "family" audience that doesn't exist. Stereotypical white family that consists of a "cool" dad and mom with little Billy and Susie. That demographic is literally bs and they need to get it through their heads. Even kids don't want to play wiiU, they'd rather play on a Playstation or Xbox.
Nintendo is sitting on literal gold, all they need to do is open their eyes and take it. The nx will flop big time unless it's actually not coming out next March in which case they have a lot of time to market it correctly and get the ball rolling with games.
If the NX can't survive and be a primary console then it's over for Nintendo. The past 2 Nintendo consoles are considered an "extra" console that people own it just for those 1 or 2 games. Real gamers can't game solely on a Nintendo console, it's literally impossible.
>>336981065
Then why would they censor it otherwise, along with the gravure dungeon?
>>336981113
Never said we should get more
>>336980152
>FE emblem
>>336981026
Oh okay. Nintendo does "different" cinematic experience, and those are okay. Not like those other shitty AAA titles.
How does the saying go? It's okay when who does it?
>>336971212
>>336981071
Why does Virtual Console suck so much in North America?
We didn't even get Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii U until this or last week and they haven't released Advance Wars Dual Strike on itb either.
>>336981168
Because it's not about the rating to them. It's about upholding an overall image of the company.
They think they're Disney.
>>336981168
That's for Nintendo to explain to its former fans, after shitting on them, not for us to explain to you.
There's a reason why people are spitting on them--because there is no discernable reason to be doing any of this.
Stop arguing from an ignorant person's point of view.
>>336981265
>Lol I made the same thread but replaced it with Sony
>>336981157
>It's time to stop with all the cartoony bs and trying to cater to the "family" audience that doesn't exist.
This is also a good point. Nintendo needs to make mature franchises. Sony learnt this with the PS3 and judging by the fact that the PS4 is dominating the Wii U says the family market isn't big anymore. That crowd moved onto iOS.
>>336981265
why am I not surprised
>>336981246
You're being purposefully obtuse if you consider SFZ to be anything like, say, Uncharted or Heavy Rain.
If Miyamoto stepped forward and called Mario a first person shooter, that wouldn't make it true.
>>336980612
lol
>>336971212
>he doesn't like metroid
>>336981246
It's funny because Uncharted and TLOU have more content and complexity to them than Star Fox 0.
>>336981157
>The thing is that Nintendo doesn't want to change.
People want them to change into what the others are.
Thats ridiculous i dont want to pay for online or have to sacrifice performance for graphics, nor i want them to jsut make the console a pc port lite.
>they'd rather play on a Playstation or Xbox.
Kids dont play xbox or PS. The average gamer age is fucking 35 Even when CoD peaked in sales only a 10 % of the userbase were actual kids.
People want nintendo to stop focusing on kids when is kids where they are better at.If you dont get new blood by next gen most gamers will have artritis and wont be playing as much anymore.
>>336981386
You're right, SFZ is nothing like Uncharted.
Uncharted has multiplayer.
>>336981503
the worst part of UC is the multiplayer though.
>>336981341
I just don't get it. The game is niche enough, why try to make it appealing to the crowd that doesn't like JRPGs when it's on a dead console too?
>>336981168
Because it makes them look more "mature" ironically enough.
>>336973562
shitposters BTFO
>>336981452
>People want them to change into what the others are.
>Thats ridiculous i dont want to pay for online or have to sacrifice performance for graphics, nor i want them to jsut make the console a pc port lite.
^
>>336981452
And that's why Nintendo will continue to fall short. Just mentioning Nintendo makes people just scoff it off. They'll never be taken seriously anymore at this rate. Hell most people these days don't even take them serious anymore. When I refer to most people I mean the actual average person, not a /v/ lurker who is biased as fuck.
I want Nintendo to come back but they keep pulling away. It's pretty sad really.
I thought that last year was supposed to be the rough transitioning year, but I just don't get why they're only showing a single game at this E3. I don't think this is even a case of NOGAMES, because they're not even showing off the FUCKING NX, A BRAND NEW FUCKING CONSOLE THAT'S COMING OUT IN LESS THAN A YEAR. Where is Pokémon Sun and Moon? Why not show off Kirby: Planet Robobot and TMS: #FE, even if they have already come out in Japan? What about Dragon Quest VII and VIII which have already been confirmed for localization? A MOTHER 3 release this year has all but been confirmed. What about NX games? Can they show off the new Zelda without showcasing anything for the NX? Super Smash Bros. for NX has basically been confirmed already, and there's even Dragon Quest XI. According to rumors, the NX seems to have many games in development for it, including games that were originally intended for the Wii U.
So where is all this? I know that Zelda is the most anticipated game, but WHY NOT FUCKING SHOW EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'VE SPOKEN ABOUT AND HINTED AT?
It leads me to believe that they have something huge up their sleeve that they're not telling anyone, or that they've given up.
>>336981669
Excuse me, can you respond to this? >>336973751
Or these?
>>336973308
>>336973568
>>336974794
How am I shitposting?
>>336981069
Then why even bother bringing it to the US in the first place? Really I don't think it should NoA's place to decide what games should and should not be allowed to be given a chance. If Nintendo tells them to bring it to America they should do it without pulling their dumb shit of trying to kill games they don't like, especially since we have evidence of games they thought wouldn't sell and tried to kill that wound up being popular anyway.
They are proven to be too stupid to make these sorts of decisions so they should just quit bellyaching and just do their jobs regardless of what they think.
Uhh, Nintendo?????????
>>336981452
>Kids dont play xbox or PS.
Anon...
>>336974512
>Realizes Sin and Punishment 3 never happen now that Treasure is dead
>>336981865
>All that multiplat garbage
>Almost no exclusives
>Uncharted 4
>>336981587
So they try the game. I'd assume quite a lot of actual girls bought a console to play Splatoon, and they'd like the singing and whatnot, so it's always safer to make it more family friendly.
>>336981865
PS4 isn't cancelled yet.
>>336981874
LOL the perfect response
>>336981575
>the worst part of UC is the multiplayer though
I disagree. SP Uncharted is qte cinematic shitfest, while MP in naughty dog games is usually pretty fun and solid.
>>336981865
fuck my ass why did i buy a fucking wii u?!
>>336981950
>It's o-on the Vita t-too, n-not exclusive...!
>They don't c-count, s-shut up, SHUT UP, SHUT UP!
>>336981735
Nintnedo is the only one trying to break trough new generations. Making videogames now needs you to spend way too much and the return be so little hence why the phone and indie market surged. AAA companies make less games eahc year and their porjects now take ages to come out and many time faovoriting the f2p or dlc schemes.Hence why hardware companies like sony and microsoft opted for p2online services otherwise is a shit business for the lack of interest in consumers.
Is this the kind of thing people want nintendo to copy?
to leave the kids and inocent themes in favor for more amture titles in a amrket that is full of them already?
>>336981157
I don't understand why people say the Wii had only a few good games. Does everyone only mean very high profile games?
>>336982058
To play all the great games it already has.
>>336981950
>game doesn't count because it's also on vita
Nintendrones, everyone.
>>336977316
with the way nintendo is censoring things on their consoles they're not gonna change at all and they're proving that
at this moment.
so fuck the nx and hope it fails.
>>336981993
>SP Uncharted is qte cinematic shitfest,
Have you actually played Uncharted?
>>336981842
Shitpost louder
>>336979609
>Generic third person shooter with RNG loot system
>Wacky gyro controls
>Fresh concept
>>336981993
is the most generic thing of the game it makes gears of war looks great in that regard.
>>336981874
go look at statics the current kid market is mostly on ninetndo, phones and handhelds.
there are more adult women playing game than kids.
>>336982231
Generic is a terrible buzzword.
>>336982189
>Have you actually played Uncharted?
Yeah, on Vita. It's like Tomb Raider for homosexuals with lots of QTEs.
>>336982097
>Is this the kind of thing people want nintendo to copy?
>to leave the kids and inocent themes in favor for more amture titles in a amrket that is full of them already?
Speaking in a business sense, they should. It doesn't mean Mario and Pokemon have to go gritty, they just have to branch out and actually make mature games. Sony can release Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted 4, why can't Nintendo make a mature franchise?
>>336981865
Here we have Uncharted 4 at E3...
>>336981774
Could be several things:
>They've been slowly pulling out of E3 like some other companies are, perhaps they don't want to unveil the NX at E3 to give E3 as little clout as possible when they'll probably be all but phased out from E3 dependence in a couple more years. Both PS4 and Xbone were unveiled at their own shows, not at E3
>The NX could be something *extremely* gimmicky, far more so than the Wii ever was. It could be a concept that's very easy to copy, and they don't want anyone else to see it, make a crude knock-off, and beat them to the market.
>Games journalism will take whatever they show and probably write negative articles about it and how it's going to bomb and ruin Nintendo. Most people don't watch tradeshows. Most people do read blurbs and snippets of articles, however, and word of mouth travels in small headlines. Rather than allowing the media to control what the public thinks of their device, they may postpone the unveil until the last possible minute, and begin marketing the device immediately after unveil (so probably this holiday season at earliest). This way people see ads for the device and form their opinions based on that instead of journos
Finally, there might be more E3 digital events than the Treehouse that show off some games like #FE, Kirby, etc. Nintendo hasn't said specifically that the Zelda Treehouse is their only plan for E3
>>336982097
Holy fuck are you listening to yourself?
>>336982325
>Yeah, on Vita
Well that's your problem. Golden Abyss is nothing like the proper Uncharted games.
What is? Trying to fix themselves?
What? You want them to be stuck shitposting season forever? Well fuck you too fucker
>>336982418
and here we have Uncharted 4 running on a Ps4
>>336982339
It's kind of sad, Metroid could have been a "mature" series for them and then they go and chibify it.
>>336982425
>They've been slowly pulling out of E3 like some other companies are, perhaps they don't want to unveil the NX at E3 to give E3 as little clout as possible when they'll probably be all but phased out from E3 dependence in a couple more years. Both PS4 and Xbone were unveiled at their own shows, not at E3
This excuse only came out once Nintendo said they wouldn't show the NX at E3.
E3 is still very popular and last year's was huge. Activision and Disney pulling out meant nothing because they have exclusivity deals with Sony, so it makes no sense to show off a few titles on their own show at E3.
>Nintendo currently losing money
>Spend loads of time and money to censor niche titles on their niche console
Nintendo deserves this shit
>>336978290
>>He thinks pokémon isn't getting milked
>>336982339
they did fe, xenoblade, supported bayo and fatal frame. too.
Nintendo makes a lot more games than sony specially if you count the ones they do on their handhelds.
From a business sense it hurts the industry and it homogenize it more thait is on consoles.
>>336982606
We need Retro back...
>>336982425
>Games journalism will take whatever they show and probably write negative articles about it and how it's going to bomb and ruin Nintendo. Most people don't watch tradeshows. Most people do read blurbs and snippets of articles, however, and word of mouth travels in small headlines. Rather than allowing the media to control what the public thinks of their device, they may postpone the unveil until the last possible minute, and begin marketing the device immediately after unveil (so probably this holiday season at earliest). This way people see ads for the device and form their opinions based on that instead of journos
That sounds super fucking retarded. Who in their right mind would only start marketing a console 3-4 months before selling it?
This isn't Nintendo riding high after The Wii either. The Wii U was their biggest failure. If they don't drum up any kind of excitement, why bother?
>>336982097
Break through to new generations? You do realize new generations usually start off playing phone games right? And also they most likely have an older figure at home who games on either a ps4 or Xbox. So no, Nintendo is not breaking through to anyone. Like I said, most kids will already have an older figure that plays on a ps4 or Xbox one. I have nearly all the consoles and the least played one is the wiiU. Pc is the most played so far because of the large variety of games to play on it including emulators. It's not because I have no games for the wiiU, it's because no one wants to play that shit when they come over whether it's kids under 10 got high school aged kids. Trust me when I say this, most kids don't want to fuck with Nintendo anymore. What's there to even play on it? Please tell me so that I can dust off my wiiU.
>>336982645
Nintendo has reported gross profit the last 4 years except for 2011 fiscal year.
>>336982696
>they did fe, xenoblade, supported bayo and fatal frame. too.
>Xenoblade and FF were censored
>Bayonetta is niche
I should be more clear, when I say "mature" I mean the AAA type like Uncharted, Halo, GOW, TLOU etc.
>>336982679
Wait, so you seriously think pokémon ISN'T getting milked?
>>336982793
Meanwhile the PSN made more money than Nintendo in the last financial year.
>>336982506
Who literally gives a fuck about memecharted and other nongames where all you do is walk from cinematic scene to another? Those aren't games.
>>336982743
what part of trying you didnt heard?
they and disney are the only ones trying to get kids into gaming.
>they start with the phones
becasue what fucking else is on the consoles for them
>buth muh cod
already told you that shit even on its peak had less than 20% of the userbase being kids.
>trust me
i trust info man, and having the average age of a gamer growing until 35 for tha last 6 years is not a good sign of where things are going for consoles.
Don't even want them to go third party.
I just want them to die.
>>336982710
There seem to be such care and passion at Retro. You ever see their Donkey Kong concept art? It's fantastic.
>>336977316
>It's clear Nintendo is trying to fix themselves with the NX
Why don't you just wait for some real information about the NX actually comes out? You just know that Nintendo is going to introduce some new shitty gimmick that no one is going to like developing around and you'll be back where you started with NO MONEY AND NO GAMES
>>336982696
>mature games
>fe, xenoblade, supported bayo and fatal frame
I think anon talking about story with mature themes and problems.
>>336976551
Reason I am done with Nintendo.
>>336982825
>Uncharted, Halo, TLOU
none of the have any lewdness which is what nintendo censor most of the time, they are american games made for the american mind.
>>336982929
actually that article compares psn revenue not gros profit to nintendo actual gross profit.
>>336982998
>Uncharted sells a lot
>U4 already has a ton of 10/10s
>N-N-NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEM I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA
>>336980575
here is your YOU
>>336983050
PLEASE post it and I'll post some more Metroid Prime Art.
Sonyggers need to be btfo'd with Devs who actually give a fuck.
>>336983050
>They had concepts for a virtual boy themed level
Always makes me feel a little let down when I see the concepts that didn't make it.
>People are willing to defend censorship just to be contrarian faggots.
>>336982728
There's an assumption you need to hype something for years before you sell it
Both PS4 and Xbone launched 6-ish months after their unveil. Nvidia just unveiled a new card that's shipping this month. I'm pretty sure Apple does similar shit. You don't want competitors getting an edge on you. I think the Wii U's biggest problem is they literally sat on it for 2 years after it was already finished. Became that much more dated in the process. How can you get excited about something that you heard about 2years ago? The world moves too fast now
>>336982627
You're missing the bigger picture. What EA and Activision are doing isn't relevant, and I shouldn't have mentioned it. Nintendo has been having less and less of a presence at E3, this is undeniable, and PS4/Xbone were also not unveiled at E3. For Nintendo to unveil NX at E3 would be like them saying "NX was not worthy of its own unveiling event" now that this is becoming common place.
Face it, most of the big companies are outgrowing E3, regardless of the fact that it's still a popular show among consumers (ironically)
>>336972725
I know this is late, but for me, it's the mix of fantastic level design, music, decent combat and puzzles and they're generally well paced. It's a series I can always trust to at least be decent. I even consider Skyward Sword to be an ok game, despite being the worst in the series.
>>336983115
>mature themes
like what war?
xeno and Fe goes on that, bayo had lewd and demonic themse.
Or what are these popular mature themes that nintendo should embrace?
>>336982627
>E3 is still very popular
only for the preess not the public, half the shit anounced is not playabel
>>336983250
>like what war?
Nope, like story to which real fucking adult human can relate.
Not animu waifu shit or cartoon stuff.
>>336983220
Nintendo could learn a lot about localisation from Sega.
>Yakuza 3
>Remove things like hostesses and other Japanese things
>Fans get mad
>Sega acknowledges this and doesn't do that again
>We get accurate localizations instead with no cut content (except for licensed music and magazines in Yakuza 5)
>>336983241
>despite being the worst in the series.wind waker has that spot
>>336983365
Sega does what Nintendon't.
>>336983328
>half the shit anounced is not playable
...Your point? Many watch the streams.
>>336983025
t. sony
>>336983328
>only for the preess
Tell that to half of mil people who watched bethesda conf on twitch.
>>336983189
>U4 already has a ton of 10/10s
Like this is any kind of argument with modern gaming journalism? Last of us was praised as GOAT and gathered many prizes, still it's just dull and mediocre game with nothing special.
>>336983250
They seemed to handle the ideas of death, betrayal and sacrifice pretty well in the pokemon mystery dungeon spinoff games.
Same with TWEWY, 999, Knights in nightmare and SMT: Strange Journey
>>336983328
E3 is big news. I know tons of normies that know all of jack and shit about games that still keep track of E3.
>>336983407
You picking fights nigga?
>>336982696
All of those still seem a little too niche and, well, I think a little too Japanese for most people.
Maybe what Nintendo needs is to buy up more western devs like Sony did.
>>336971212
>tfw selling off my wii u games now that i can easily pirate them all
feels good
>>336983446
>many watch the streams
exactly, the companies could hold their own streams and pay none to E3 masters and would be doing the same.
The first year of nintendo digital event for example was a great success.
>Yfw sony will never get based Retro
/v/ should try talking to people. Like, actual people, not /v/ posters.
People don't want Nintendo platforms. Both Sony and Microsoft have the public by the balls.
>>336976908
Seaman 3
Bomberman 3D
Assasins Creed (which become Revelations the next year)
Kaoi King of Pirates (Inafune game that cost like 10 millons in loss for Marvelous)
Saint Row game
Also I remember that in TGS11 Namco said they were interested in make a Klonoa game for the 3DS. Also a Soul Calibur game was in consideration
>>336983445
Exactly: I was playing Resonance of Fate a lot this year and it was more fun than any Nintendo title I've played recently.
This fucking company man.
It's just fucking sad.
>>336983016
You didn't mention anything about cod to me but ok. Also no they start off with phones because everyone fucking has a phone. Do you not see kids even really young ones in strollers not having a phone in there hand? Their parents let them use the phone to play games or watch some shitflix to distract them.
So no, Nintendo and Disney are not getting no fucking kids into gaming. Where did you even get that from?
Even my own fucking mother knew to get an Xbox for my younger brother at the time. She doesn't know shit about video games other than what she sees on commercials. She didn't need anyone to tell her what to get when she bought that Xbox. Since she knew we already had a Playstation 3 , she knew to buy him an Xbox. Not a wii, a dam Xbox. Even a few years back when the new consoles were coming out, she asked if my brother would've liked a Playstation or Xbox. Nintendo is becoming more irrelevant with each choice they make. They need to get back their reputation.
>>336983521
>s like Sony did
then they fired them like in most recntly years they have been doing and they havent gotten anything new to take their place.
So not the best example.
Also people ignore how good their child games still sell.
>>336983475
>Last of Us
>mediocre
It's overrated, but it's definitely not mediocre
>>336983470
That's the point. Companies are now wising up to the fact that in order to get information out to their fans, you just need to stream it. You'll get a much bigger reaction from the actual fans rather than the cuck journos that get paid to go there and say how sexist games are.
Just stream your shit to your fans and you don't need to pay Commiefornia a single cent for E3 space
>sonyggers will never ever have devs like Retro
>>336971212
>amiibos
that's when i knew it was over
>permanent nintendo hate and sony fanboy threads up
when was the moderation team replaced with neogaf staff?
>>336983720
We have Naughty Dog who are more critically and financially successful than Retro.
We'll live.
>>336983475
..... I liked the last of us :c
>>336983720
Nintendo: always living in the past. Bragging about past glories.
>>336983806
>Naughty Dog
>LOL DUDE RAIDER
>LOL CRASH POOCHIE BANDICOOT
>>336983798
Maybe if you stop being a faggot people would give a shit.
>>336983553
>>336983720
Retro is one of the main reasons I even still care about Nintendo but they've been so silent lately.
They better pick up the pace and get more projects coming out at a regular pace because one 2D platformer from them really wasn't enough to carry the Wii U.
>>336983806
>>336983835
NaughtyDog is a VERY mature company, I sure do respect them!
>>336983846
Are you going to use a mature rebuttal or stick to using childish tantrums?
>>336983878
>Retro Studios
They are most likely working onthe game of your dreams right now, anon, faggot
>>336983943
>Nintendo
>Mature.
>>336983806
>more critically and financially successful than Retro.
Sonyggers: Quantity over Quality
>>336983615
>So no, Nintendo and Disney are not getting no fucking kids into gaming. Where did you even get that from?
where do you thing that 30% of kids is coming from on gaming?
That the flux of kids slowed drastically doesnt mean they arent still coming, and the companies that make software for them can be counted with one hand.
>muh mother
that most likely asked for your advice i supposed.But thats anectotal evidence.
>They need their reputation back
Of what according to you. They did the best kids games then and somehow still are. What is that repuataion you want and see the sales of shit like kirby, yoshi and mari party or splatton. Is more than manchildren specially in japan. There´s also handleds which you ignore.
>>336983702
I don't know if it was really over rated. It's one of the few mainstream games that actually made me feel for the characters. Not many mainstream games can do that these days. I use the word mainstream because I don't play jrpgs and I know you probably would've pulled tons of obscure titles out your ass that made you feel.
-1 shit post.
Let's get this one past the bump limit. It's just fucking sad.
>>336983934
I like both versions of ND. I would have loved to have seen their Jak and Daxter reboot.
>>336983596
It's a 7th gen game. Both Nintendo and Sega did awesome publishing work around 2008-2012.
>>336984006
>Naught Dog's games are also critically more popular than Retro's work
>>336984047
>that pic
why not use the same artstyle instead?
I'm glad the mods on /v/ are allowing more console wars and shit posting.
I was getting tired of talking about video games and enjoying myself all the time.
I want this place to be more like NeoGAF. Let's make sales charts and spend all day shit posting online. Fuck actually playing games. We need to be marketing drones for our favorite toy box maker.
>>336984106
Nintendrones, clinging onto the past, as usual.
>>336983995
They can be
>>336984109
>tfw no ROF sequel
>2016
>people are still expecting Nintendo to die
Honestly, let's real talk here for a sec: Let's say Nintendo went out of business and sold their IPs to various game devs, who would you want to get what? For example, SE gets Zelda
>>336971212
>Wah wah wah I don't like the thing!
I wonder who could be behind such a quality thread?
>>336983995
nitnedno likes to stand, so in a world where most people are using "mature" themes. They like to branch themselves.
>>336984130
It was a concept that ND didn't believe worked.
Once again, this image is proven right.
So sad.
>>336984173
>>336984158
It's like poetry.
Giygas is a fucking meme at this point.
>>336984241
God you're a fucking retard. Companies are not people. You sound like such a brianwashed american.
>>336984219
>implying there´s anyone that can work with them
they would fuck them up like when konami use a 3rd party for castlevania
nintedo are missing the fucking point.
everytime consumers are complaining about something they just go ahead and make another fucking console. because its easy to just make another fucking console and call it a day instead of looking into real problems that go far beyond having shit consoles
>>336984302
>nitendo is not people
i sayd that becasue in every nterview with the developers they come to that when talking about artstyle.
Watch evry miyamoto review for example.
>it's yet ANOTHER autistic fanboy-filled console war thread
You faggots are the people ruining this board
Hey look!
A shit thread filled with shit people.
>>336984345
people want them to be like the other but while still reatinign their style. These are condradicotry ideas.
>>336984437
>>336984456
Why are nintendrones so blind to their own shitpsoting?
>>336984437
It's the fucking cunts from NeoFAGs
That and no one actually reports threads any more. Lazy mods won't do anything unless there's a ton of reports.
>>336984013
TY for taking time out of your day to argue with me. My normie friends aren't super into games anymore so we usually only ever talk about casual shit.
30 percent? Citation needed. Like I said most if not all kids start gaming from a family member.
Muh mother. No I never told my mother to get anything. I didn't even like Xbox at the time since I was so fascinated with getting a ps3 back in high school. Since I had that, there was no need for me to get an Xbox. Halo died out after 3 for me and they had little interesting exclusives(which I find funny since people shat on ps3 for not having games). I also didn't want to pay for live since a majority of my friends played on ps3.
I can't argue with you on the last one really. The only thing I can say for now is that Nintendo needs to make a serious console, a console where you wouldn't need to buy a ps or Xbox to fill in the game gaps.
>>336984284
I'd argue that PC users are nearly as bad.
PS4 has no games.
>>336984468
They also want the same things as before but different while complaining about rehashes.
Shit thread.
Shit replies.
It's like the circle of life.
>sonyfans
>>336972073
>in the balls
That's not a good thing
>>336984468
what style? they haven't changed anything since the 90's
they still have exclusives locked into consoles that only they make with only accessories that they make, that's exactly what they did in the 90's.
even their fucking merch is locked behind exclusives and extra payment
>>336984284
LOL that image would've been Xbox fan boys back in 7th gen.
>>336981950
>Doesn't count because also on Vita
Exclusive to Sony consoles anyway dipshit.
EL OH EL DUDE FUCKING RAIDAH!
>>336975390
Mario Maker
>>336984501
>Someone that doesn't like a blanent flamewar threads must be a drone!
PSP = Long Dead. Couldn't Sell Software. Failure.
PS3 = Lost Billions It Could Never Recoup
PS Vita = DOA Failure
PSTV = DOA Failure
Mark my words, the PSVR and the PS4K:32X will be next on the list.
Are Nintendudes false flagging right now?
Sony has had the highest selling console in a generation but they've never had the best console in any generation. Ever.
>Sad
It's good to know that Nintendo delaying NX to have the perfect launch only caused sonygger and Xbots to shitpost
Enjoy your updated trash point 5 consoles fuckers
Im behind 3,000 proxies at Nintendo, go fuck yourselves
>>336984797
Taking criticism is hard. Learn to critique your company's man.
>>336984684
Which company are you talking about?
They all do these things. I guess not Microsoft because Xbox was post-2000.
>>336984797
Don't both with brandloyalty kids
They're practically the same thing as SJWs and Stormfags when it comes to their "either with us or against us" mentality.
Better trade in your Shit Station 4 before Shit Station 4K makes it obsolete.
#Shit4thePlayers
>>336984501
>Blind to their own shitposting
>>Their own shitposting
The only shitposting here are people doing the yearly shitpost after Nintendo financials
>>336985008
>Xbots
I don't think so. They mostly keep to themselves these days.
>>336984962
Ps2 and ps3 Shat on the competition. Ps3 however took a few years to overcome it.
>>336984559
i remmeber having a fucking pdf image about those, you can have this in the meantime.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players-since-2010/
>>336984559
>Nintendo needs to make a serious console, a console where you wouldn't need to buy a ps or Xbox to fill in the game gaps.
Thats dumb, one should buy a console for the library not becasue it will make the others irrelevant, PSP vs DS being one of the best examples consoles with far great different but worthwile libraries.
Phew this thread is bad. Like, neogaf levels of bad.
>>336985028
im talking about the company that have 20 different consoles but release a new game on only 2 consoles every time, with 60$ price tag
>>336984797
dont reply to them, they are just going to refuel their shitposting
see what happened >>336985026
>>336985038
The poor creatures
>>336985096
Yea because they got cucked last gen and now this gen they fucked up. They need exclusives.
>>336985107
Xbox, Dreamcast, Game Cube and PC were all better than PS2
PS3 was utter shit from day one, and it stayed utter shit until the end. Weak hardware, terrible exclusives, shit online.
>>336985026
Saying "NINTENDO ID DOOOMED!!!" The one millionth time isn't critique, its flame war fuel.
>>336977159
>we'll see what comes next I suppose
Newer Super Mario Bros
Sonyggers are just mad because Sony is ass raping them with the PS4K
Here's something to make the pain go away.
>>336985178
link also
http://www.theesa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/ESA-Essential-Facts-2015.pdf
>>336985205
So you want Sega to publish Valkyria Chronicles on the 32X?
Just sold my system and pro controller for $300
thank fucking god someone bought it, you won't be able to get half that in 6 months, and there will be just as many games for it then as there are now.
>>336985367
And the NX isn't?
>>336983590
>that Yoot Saito blogpost last year where he was regreted as fuck because he broke its relationship with Iwata and never know about him until Yuji Horii told him that Iwata had cancer early 2015
>tfw Seaman 3 was one of the reason of this
that post was suffering in every fucking line
>>336985529
what a badly composed shitpost
>>336985506
>Women age 18 or older represent a signi! cantly
greater portion of the game-playing population (33%)
than boys age 18 or younger (15%)
>>336985601
Oh, so you wanted to play Uncharted 2 on a 360? This seems perfectly reasonsble.
>>336985275
Original Xbox, I played most of its games on pc. Dreamcast..... Fucking Dreamcast? Give me a ps1 or N64 pls.
Ps2 was better than gc pls.
Ps3 had weak hardware? Is that why games Sony exclusives looked better than any shit Xbox put out? I really want to know what you mean by shit online too? Both ps and Xbox did the same fucking things online. What was shit about it? The same experience I had on live was the same experience I had on psn.
>>336971212
What the fuck happend to them, why are they making the shittiest decisions lately.
>>336985845
probably talking about the ddos attacks and the hacking for the shitty online part..
>>336985178
Exactly, you buy a console to game on. Nintendo has 0 third party support meaning you're stuck with Nintendo games being released like every 9 months.
I really don't want to discuss handhelds because Nintendo excels at that. If anything, another flop or two will mean Nintendo will have to stick with mobile. The nx, wasn't it like a handheld and a console combined? I think that's what it was rumored to be.
>>336982728
>>336983223
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
It's actually pretty commonly-known that you shouldn't announce / hype your product too early. Doing so leads to wasted advertising, and people no longer being hyped when your product actually comes out. Worse, it can lead to overexposure, to people actually rejecting your product because you market it so much.
I think any time after September but before February would be a good time to start the hype, hold the big show, that sort of thing.
>>336986172
Which Wii U releases were 9 months apart with nothing in between?
>>336986248
Has this ever been done before with a console?
>>336986172
>If anything, another flop or two will mean Nintendo will have to stick with mobile
unlike most will make you belive they have reamined profitable even with the wiiu their only loss was the year after the 3ds becasue fo the price cut.
You buy consoleS not just one, but people live on the notion that they should have just one which happened becasue after 7 gen the consoles library became way to homgenized you could brag about the ps2 library but most gamers would aknowldge the wort of the gc or 64 library. Even now the wiiu offers a nice library of games.
>>336986149
The ddos desu I didn't even mind. I got my grades up in math for that whole month lol. At least they compensated people with a choice of games.
As far as hacking goes, I don't know if he means in multi-player games or what. The only game I ever saw hacking in was cod and that was on the 360 as well. Other than the ddos crap, my experience with both has been identical. I just wanted to know, was it possible to game share on Xbox? I never got around to checking this but it was one of my favorite features on ps3. Up to 5 people can GameShark off you meaning if you all were planning to buy a game or dlc, you could all chip in and buy it on one account then gameshare.
>>336986172
If you're not buying a NINTENDO CONSOLE for NINTENDO GAMES, then why the hell would you buy it?
>>336986407
Please tell me those games. Haven't used my wiiU since windwaker HD. The only other game I was interested in was fatal frame because the gamepad would've been useful. Also would've made for some nice scares. Didn't hear much from that game other then it was censored or something.
>>336972073
Then your too old to be playing video games.
>>336985845
As far as I can remember Sony's online was never quite as poppin as Microsoft's was.
>>336986618
Enhanced Dreamcast ports like Skies of Arcadia Legends?
>>336986618
It used to be, prior to the Wii, Nintendo got some deal of 3rd party support.
Hell, even The Wii had companies trying to branch out to it due to its success, it's just that the system was too underpowered overall.
Only with The Wii U did 3rd party support completely up and vanish.
>>336985845
Not really games, but they ruined the PSN store after a few years.
Horrible layout, constant updates required, and it ran like shit for some reason.
>>336986618
for Japanese 3rd party games.
>>336986670
i have pikmin 3, donkey kong, w101, bayo2, xenobalde, twiligth hd, 3d world. mh3u, wooly world, kirby rainbow, smashbors, fatal frame,mk8,starfox.
Still havent gotten pokken and FE#
So i would say it was good in the span of 4 years.
>>336986760
>was too underpowered
that was the only reason 3rd party acted on it.Capcom being an excellent example.
>>336986375
Sega's the best example. They jumped the gun so hard that it put them out of business.
>>336983597
>There is a person who was butthurt enough to make this image
Sad.
>>336986964
>that was the only reason 3rd party acted on it
The only reason the best selling console of the last gen had 3rd party support was because it was underpowered?
What the fuck are you smoking? If anything, that hindered it.
>>336987019
sega had almost a decade of losses before that.The reason for their leave is more than just the dreamcast.
>>336986009
At this rate, disney will buy them and then it is all over. I hope that never happens.
>>336986964
Eh, I don't want to buy any if those except for bayo2 and fatal frame. Maybe mk8 if you could use the gc adapter on it.
>>336986694
>Not just owning a dreamcast
>>336986760
Yeah, because those shitty ports and shovelware were really needed.
>>336986879
>Liking weeb trash
>>336983798
Are you implying Nintoddlers don't do the exact same thing? Both of you are pathetic.
>>336986760
The good third party games on Wii were amazing besides graphics, but they always ended up in $10 or less bargain bins. Even games Nintendo published ended up there.
Wii U had third parties being lazy as greedy fucks who acted surprised when their late, full priced, buggy ports failed to sell. Ubisoft sort of tried with ZombiU but abandoned the Wii U taking Rayman Legends exclusivity with them when ZombiU and bad AssCreed ports failed to do well. Square/Eidos also tried with Deus Ex Director's Cut but also jumped the exclusivity ship.
>>336987139
It was the trigger. Kind of like how diabetes works - years of misuse, not eating right, not exercising properly, and you're fine. Then on your birthday you decide to treat yourself to another slice of that delicious double chocolate ice cream cake and you wake up in the hospital, broken forever.
In this analogy the Dreamcast is a cake.
>>336987272
I agree. Wii ports were so shit, it was like ps2 versions on next gen games.
>>336987272
kill yourself retard
>>336987138
the wii was cheap but no one ever took it seriously.
Nintendo mentions that in one interview, i use capcom becasue they used the wii to experiment ina lot of things but never marketed any of those games. tasunoko, zack and wiki, mh3 being the exception becasue they were help by nintendo.
This was before the surge of indies so the wii was being repalced little by little as the chepeast platform to develope.Nintendo had the stigma with it that if its not nintendo it doesnt sell, this was true also for the ds.
Why the fuck is this thread still up?
It's like I'm on neogaf
>>336984284
Actually it should be PC yelling, if it can't be played (read: pirated/emulated) on a PC, it needs to die and it's shit. Mark my words: the moment Wii U emulation will become a thing, people will suddenly begin to praise previously controversal and/or disregarded titles like SF0 and XCX and the amount of shitposting threads about Nintendo will be at an all-time low.
>>336987358
>in this analogy
stop. Like i said decade of losses.
Having one shitty console doesnt end you, see the ps3, psp, n64 or GC.
>>336987447
Woah, you're wonderfully crafted argument sure put me in my place!
Fuck detective Pikajew. I need some more Kyle Hyde action.
>>336984284
>implying both sides aren't awful
Your bias is showing
also
>editing the original image.
Have a better edit.
>>336987513
Are you mad that people are insulting Nintendo?
>>336984848
>82 million units sold, most popular game sold 4.6 million
>80 million units shipped, boomed after price drop and Xbox RRoD
>1.2 million units sold in first two months
>only factual claim
>>336971648
Somy will make yoir company die and I'll enjoy playing fire emblem on my PS4 lmao
Are Nintendo fans the Jihadists of the vg community?
>>336987606
Yeah. Decades of losses, of weakening, then a crash triggered by one final system shock. Stop being a retard.
Why are you even arguing about this? I was talking about the most famous game company to fall victim to the Osborne effect. Does the fact that it wasn't the SOLE contributing factor to their failure seriously mean that much?
>>336986760
I dunno, I remember gamecube getting fucked out of many multiplats it could easily run. It got some nice exclusivity deals but there was just no hope in the platform. Look at the capcom 5, 3 of which ended up going to the ps2 and 1 of which never came to be.
This lack of trust really spread to the wii. I can't remember how many lightgun games came out to "test the market", none of which led to anything. A common line seen in dev interviews was that they'd rather make games suited to the wii's unique strengths, which was code for "we don't want to bother with working on it".
The WiiU initially looked like it had fixed a lot of problems, as they had Ubisoft giving out a ton of exclusive content supposedly near launch, and even EA was singing the console's praises for a while. Nintendo must've done something to piss them off because they changed their tune real quick. Then ubisoft fucked the wiiU owners with rayman legends and released nothing ever again. You could still find developers saying they'd rather make games suited to the WiiUs touchscreen or whatever, when this line never pops up about the PS4's touchpad.
Nintendo lacks the capacity to maintain any third-party relations, it seems. And maybe that's because of dispute on distribution and marketing in relation to their first-party games, or maybe their entire e-store situation, maybe nothing like that at all.
One of the WiiU's problems is that Nintendo's philosophy on it was one that only applied to themselves. They wanted a console that was silent and out of the picture, to give the controller the main focus. The fact that they managed that with the wii without having to hide the system in the marketing notwithstanding, this led to poor communication to consumers, and a gimped system that couldn't easily receive multiplats
>>336971212
It all started with the decision to use cartridges on the N64. Years later on the Wii, not many worthwhile games outside the mainline Nintendo standards, especially compared to any other platform of the day. The Wii just wasn't a good system. For anyone even a little serious about games, owning one was a compromise. Nintendo has been playing catch up ever since. They blew their load for the casuals, a cheap gimped system swamped with cheap gimped games, and they lost the zeitgeist. They're still more than capable of making amazing games, and they do, but the world has left them behind. They're no longer the protagonists.
>>336987879
>osborne effect
the problem with sega was shitty management. Lots of bad investments and shitty financials and money movmeent.
Compared to nintendo which have a dead console like the wiiu and still manage to end the year with millions in gross profit.
Sega was just retarded at financials, osborne efect hadlittle to do with that.
>>336987926
3rd aprties want a machine that works like all others. Nintendo wants to make something unique all the time.
So its either fall into homogeinity to get 3rd party or keep trying new things without them.
>>336987994
>osborne efect hadlittle to do with [Sega]
Why are you being so stupid? Of course it did. It was the most direct reason for which they failed. Just because it wasn't the only reason doesn't mean that it's not important.
Are you drunk? High? Brain-damaged? ESL? What's wrong with you?
>/v/
>moderation
>>336988143
>that it's not important.
what part you didnt get
sony, nintendo had shitty consoles that fucked them and still pulled trough.
Sega fell in 2 gens becasue they throwed money out of the window, even with the sega genesis they made shit compared to nintendo.
they had shitty management in their financial even though they were competing and giving a nice fight yet. Kinda like sony with the ps2.
>>336988249
>You
>This bothered by a legitimate thread
>>336988294
>sony, nintendo had shitty consoles that fucked them and still pulled trough.
Because they didn't throw money out the window, yes.
>Sega fell in 2 gens becasue they throwed money out of the window
Yes, and that made them weak enough to die because a console fell victim to the Osborne effect in the most high-profile case in the industry.
I'm not even arguing with you, you fucking retard. Jesus christ. Don't reply to me, I'm not going to engage with you any more. Go bug someone else with your braindead argumentation.
>>336988121
dindu nuffin
>>336988391
>console wars shitposting thread
>legitimate
>>336988450
half of their dreamcast titles went unadvertized and you blame the osborn effect for not having money that they lost on shiit management during fucking 8 years
>>336988391
>legitimate
This thread is literally NOTHING but consolewar faggotry, which is SUPPOSED to be against the rules here, but when's the last time the mods actually enforced the rule about quality of post or flaming/flagrant fanboyism?
>>336988596
Yep.
There are a lot of legitimate grievances to be had with Nintendo at the moment.
Some people though see absolutely bothered by that fact, and can't stand when others point out their issues with them.
>>336988634
No mention of consoles were in the OP. People though do seem to jump to bitching about Sony to deflect issues regarding Nintendo.
>>336987926
EA wanted Nintendo to use Origin instead of the eShop, and Nintendo said no. Then EA started bad mouthing the Wii U and cutting support.
>>336988739
>flamebait shitposting
>legitimate grievances
>>336988810
Yeah, if you ignore any of the major discussion in this thread.
You're just bitching because you don't like people insulting your favorite multi-billion dollar century old corporation.
>>336971212
>pretty much laid the foundations of the modern games industry
>threw it all away for a waggle wand
Sad.
>>336984657
>dude makes a funny thread
>"hurr lets use it for console war garbage xD"
>>336988912
>stop calling me out on my shitposting, thats what /v/ is for!
>>336988121
Where that from?
>>336988634
>which is SUPPOSED to be against the rules here, but when's the last time the mods actually enforced the rule about quality of post or flaming/flagrant fanboyism?
Don't give the mods such a hard time, it's after their bedtime.
>>336988919
>the foundations
the industry step way too far from those, i doubt people thought dlc and p2online was going to be a thing back then.
>>336987149
Can't happen against Japanese law
>Boasting about your once great but now forgotten team of Retro - who make worse platformers than Ubishit
>As if that means anything next to the likes of Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica - even Japan Studio alone with Ueda (SotC, ICO) Toyama (Silent Hill) and now Kojima and Miyazaki being in their literal palm - not to mention great B teams like Sucker Punch and whatnot. Sony are literally shitting on everyone at this point.
>>336988973
dude stop with the console war trash. the guy has a problem with modern nintendos decisions, they've been releasing terrible hardware with mediocre rehashes of older games or just games with dumbed down mechanics like 3d world.
go meme somewhere else
>>336989319
>dude stop with the console war trash.
pot,kettle, nigger.
>>336983553
Good.
>>336986694
>tfw no Skies of Arcadia HD ever because Sega
>>336983964
>8
i doubt it, nintendo probably has them working on f-zero storybook adventure
>>336989296
kojima and miyazaki are on PC.
Ueda left sony many years ago.
Toyama gravity rush was pretty underwhleming
They really only have santamonic, ND and Jap studio.
I have 2 3DSs and a Wii U and they are all hacked.
Nintendo can suck my balls but they have good exclusives
>>336989384
You wanna know something?
I don't fucking own a PS4, or an Xbone. My PC is a clunker.
But I still have issues with Nintendo. I'mt so disillusioned that I can't see the problems right before my eyes.
Hell, if anything, I think they're amplified.
>>336989772
ebin falseflag
>>336989617
Kojima will be on PC in an unknown capacity later and that could change, and Miyazaki has a 3 game contract with Sony per generation, Ueda is part of gen design which Sony owns, fuck off and lie elsewhere faggot
>>336989802
Yeah, you just want the thread maxed out cause the topic makes you uncomfortable.
Well, until things change or improve, you're still gonna be seeing people complaining. So you might want to chill just a tad.
>>336983553
Keep their garbage away from Sony.
>>336989880
As long as mods dont do their jobs it wont change, yes.
Sadly the flamebait rule isnt being enforced at all.
>>336989943
/v/ is not a Nintendo forum. People are allowed to express their discontent just fine.
>>336990000
>please let me shitpost in peace
If you werent this obvious people wouldnt have an issue with it.
>>336990063
There's a difference between disagreeing with someone, and trying to outright shut them up because they don't like what they're hearing.
>>336989772
xbox and ps4 are pc lites. The faults they have are the sames pc have but with p2online and worse graphics.
Nintendo stands out thats why is far easier to see their falws.
>>336989854
ueada left sony is still working on free lance just to finsih last guardian
miyazaki or from havent saud anything about 3 games.
and kojima confirmed for pc which i dont know why you say it could change, how many times have a multiplat game become exclsuive when it was anounced?
sony isnt helping dev just marketing like with shemune
>>336990121
>there's a difference between what I call shitposts and my shitposts
>>336981842
"Better" is relative
Zelda has its own lore, characters, recurring themes, and equipment that people like. It's not hard but it's not always easy. And most games in the series add a compelling new mechanic to a tried a true formula.
Ok?
>>336990121
you know hes just baiting, right?
>>336979609
>free online
To play shit.
>everything is 60 fps
That's easy when you have to run so graphically weak games
>no cinematic movie experiences to be found
I don't get motivated to play a Mario & Co game anymore, i want my cinematic experiences, thank you.
>based handhelds that are pretty much a continuation of gen 6 games in design and gets tons of jap support
There's like 30 different versions of the 3ds, how's that a good thing?. Also, more kiddie censored shit in them.
>still down to get weird and gamble on fresh concepts like splatoon
Fresh for a little kid, maybe.
>>336990169
>I'm going to ignore everything you said on purpose or I'm just too stupid to read plain English
OK
>>336990285
Yeah, but the thread's over regardless.
>>336971212
Congrats on hitting the bump limit.
>>336979609
Because its not a Sony system.
>>336989907
stay mad sonygger
>>336990378
It's the opposite, though. You want to shut people up for not liking what you like.
>>336990375
>make shitposting thread
>deny all the shitposting while filling up the thread with more garbage
>hit bump limit
its too easy
>>336990337
what i said is true tough
or you dont thing that the os4 isnt a shittier pc?
and what i said about devs is also true. GenDesign is not owned by sony.
>>336990256
So does it just come down a lot to familiarity? You like seeing the lore, the themes, the characters?
I'm not saying that's an illegitimate reason, but is that the core reason to its success?
It's just the more I think about it, the more I question why Zelda is such an extravagantly big deal.
When I think of a Mario game, I think of precision platforming. The pinnacle of its genre.
When I think of Zelda, I think of a game that kind of has exploration, and some action, and puzzles, but I don't think it excels tremendously at any one of those.
>>336990619
it has a mix of those.
which many games dont and nintnedo usually takes time for all those ellemts to be good enough, and that set it appart from most games thatfocus just in one element.
>>336990878
But there are RPGs that cover more than one element. I mean most open world RPGs cover a chunk of what I think originally drew people into Zelda as a whole.
I mean Zelda 1 was this big open world that you had to explore and figure. Decades later, that's one of the defining genres of our time.
I guess it's the emphasis on puzzles that really provides its hook?
>>336990572
Dont insult his overlords
