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Stellaris thread
What race will make space great again?
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>>336889354
human master race
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Be generous, give out steam keys :^)
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Fungoid 10, because fun is already in the name, and I want to punch the universe.
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>>336889354
What are those portraits with asterisks?
Pre-order bonuses or something?
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>>336889531
You seem like a fun guy.
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It shall be an orgy.
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Is there a legit torrent download yet?

I want to give the game a try but I don't get paid until the end of the week (Friday) and £35 is a bit much for me to chuck away on a whim.
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>>336889551
Special edition stuff.
You get the spider looking arthropoid 14 for the special edition and the other for the super special edition, for when you're super special.
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>>336889551
Spiders are from limitededition others will be ready latter and peoplewho preordred will get them for free
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>>336889592
FOR SHROOMS
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>>336889354
Giganiggers
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>>336889660
What about *14 from the Molluscoid? Never seen that before.
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>>336889653
>and £35 is a bit much for me to chuck away on a whim
Really? I wasted $40 on the stranger of sword city and feel bad about itcheatedBut having doubts about buying paradox vanilla game(and pirating all dlc)?
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>>336889551
$300 DLC from Parajews as per usual. Can't wait for the Portrait DLC 2 where you get three new portraits for the cheap price of $40! All hail Paradox, the good guys of the video game industry!
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>>336889809
Disregard me, I was right about arthropoid 14, everything else with an asterisk is actually >>336889701
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>>336889842
You could just wait for the modding slaves to make free portraits.
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>>336889809
Hydra/Xenomorph, Evil Porcupine, Dinosaur Bird, Shadowy Anthropoid and Fungoid Infected Mammalian
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>>336889354
why is space filled with animals?
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>>336889920
It's a jungle out there
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>>336889920
To trigger autists.
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>>336889840

I just want to try before I buy - at the moment my income is hilariously low due to being made redundant from my job last year and even though I'm working now I'm earning less than a third of what I used to while still looking for a way back into what I used to do (I used to be assistant manager of a respite care home, now I work behind a supermarket checkout).

So yeah . . . The game looks like my kinda game and I want to give it a try, if I like it I'll probably buy the full special edition at the end of the week. If not - i'll share the torrent for a while so others can try and then i'll uninstall/delete and wait for the next 4x.
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>>336889354
>Molluscoid 9
Cthulhu master race.
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>>336889354
>no options for cybernetic enhancements
>no pre or post singularity
>no purely digital races
>no robots

completely lacking the next step of evolution
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is the torrent out yet lads?
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>>336890095
where the fuck do you do this?

Page link?
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>>336890095

Should call it Men Going Their Own Way
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>>336890094
You can build robot slaves, and I think you can do cybernetic implants on your people. One of the end game scenarios might be having to deal with the singularity.
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>>336890152
http://stellarisspeciesgen.com/
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Avian 8 is Evil Space Empire-tier
I love it, but it's going to be weird if they show up randomly as fanatic pacifists or something.
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>>336890094
Might become DLC
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>>336889354
>>>/vg/gsg
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>>336890094
The game has all of those things though, you just can't start as them.
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>>336890094
1 and 4 are in though
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>>336890094

There are options for cybernetic enhancements and there are robots.
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Does which version you prefer order effect any dlcs in the future? I don't really care about the music or the spiderman and shit but will the better versions get more free dlc and stuff?
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>>336890452
No
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>>336890452
You get the other DLC races with the asterisk for free if you pre-order, nothing else should be affected.
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>>336889354
Fungoid 10 is literally dark souls meme fungoid
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>>336890386
stop pointing stellaris fags to gsg

they aren't welcome there and it just annoys us
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>>336890452
If it's anything like the previous games you should be able to pirate DLC anyway.

Think the most expensive version gets some free DLC in the future though.
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HAHAHA!!!!
We
Wuz
Kingzs
n' Shit
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>>336890643
A lot of them are just references to other things
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>>336890776
Jokes aside, why would anyone use projectile weapons in the space battles and not missiles or lasers?
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>>336890943
Cuz bam bam nigga.
Bam bam aint pew pew.
Are you hearin?
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>>336890943
Lasers are good vs armor suck vs shields
Rockets can be countered by point defense
Ballistics are great vs shields suck vs armor
Strike craft do I have no fucking clue

You'll have to change it up as you play hopefully
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>>336891103
You're not funny.
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>>336891132
Are strike crafts what I think they are? Just ramming people?
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bbs.3dmgame(put a dot here)com/thread-5086196-1-1(put a dot here)html

Guys? Is the download in this legit?

Not trolling here - I genuinely don't know.
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>>336890776
Seems like the most succesful build so far.
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>>336891132
Strike craft are countered by point defense and other strike craft
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>>336891216
Lol no, they are small ships from I guess motherships, pic related, those smallest ships.

They have been unclear on what they are or do.
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>>336891292
Oh. I'm not sure if that's more or less badass.
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>arthropod
>no crustaceans included

shit game

I know nothing about it, how is it, what about it makes it worth checking out

>>336890943
if you mean realistically, electromagnetically propelled ballistics would be pretty practical even if fully DEW's were around
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LEMME PLAY!LEMME PLAY!LEMME PLAY!LEMME PLAY!LEMME PLAY!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>336891358
If you can build up a fleet of a shitton of strike craft from supporting ships it might be pretty cool

In the streams they did they always just blobbed up one big stack with heavy armor/missiles and rolled slowly with it, but I reckon you could get away with multiple smaller, high evasion strike forces used to pester larger fleets and stations

Or maybe not, we'll see tomorrow
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This and HOI4 coming soon. Is 2016 the best year of gaming?
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>>336891478

Not hyped for HoI4 from tbqh, from all the early information.
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>>336891478
>Stellaris
>HOI4
>Dark Souls 3
>Total War: Warhammer
>Firewatch
>Hyper Light Drifter
>Hitman
>Darkest Dungeon
>Death's Gambit
>Eitr
>Mother Russia Bleeds
>Enter the Gungeon
>maybe Sub Rosa
>and all them jap games coming to the west
Seems pretty great to me
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>>336889354
>not being fungoid
>not wanting to impregnate all creatures alive and dead
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>>336889354
>No ork under Fungoid

Mods will fix this glaring inaccuracy.
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How the fuck are there mushroom people but not plant people? Also where are my fish people wearing goldfish bowls for hats?
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>>336891478
so far
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>>336891868
If you could be bothered to animate it like all the other images are
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>>336891968
One of the super early builds they showed off had "PLANT" in the list, but they never showed them off

I guess they didnt get it done in time so now its DLC
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>>336890649
stellaris will be posted there whether you like it or not
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Is this game single player?

Is it comfy?

I want a comfy space colonization game, and
the threat of other people isn't comfy.
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>>336892350
Being the next god emperor of the galaxy becomes comfy
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>>336892350

Yes, Yes.
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>>336892350
You can play it against/with AI or real people, obviously.
It's pretty great in terms of customization for galaxies, so you can totally just fuck around by yourself if you feel like it, not sure what you'd get out of that though.
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>>336892426
Thanks
>>336892436
I've played Spore and Beyond Earth for ages on single player, just for comfy sci-fi empire/base building. Yeah, I'm autistic to a degree.
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>>336892647

You should love this game then because it will be far better than Spore.
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I'm so hyped, I know I will be disapointed but I'm so hyped.
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>>336891968
Fungus is like a cross between plants and animals

Plants don't make much sense because they're extremely passive. They have rudimentary nervous systems, but they don't operate anything similar to animalia.

There's just a lot of things about plants that don't really allow even a tribal-level civilization, let alone getting into space.
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>>336889842
>buying aestethics dlc
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HOW MANY MORE HOURS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>336889653
Well fucking wait for friday you child. And if that's too much wait for a sale or don't play it.

I want to murder you, you fucking whore.
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>>336893202
29
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>>336893278
Seriously?
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>>336889842
No one forces you to buy anything. Portraits don't even affect gameplay.
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>>336889842
That's why you always pirate all paradox dlc.
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>>336893307
>Portraits don't even affect gameplay.
Not him but the overall type does, small bonus for being the same race

Not that important, I thought it was neat.
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>>336893278
whats the point of even living. fuck
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>>336889354
Why no robot races? Looks boring.
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>>336892946
Plants are so fucking fascinating. They're basically just incredibly complex chemical reactions, with its based code packed in to a tiny, hard nodule.

Supply that nodule with water, light, and minerals, and you get towering structures with a variety of colors, smells, and even material functions for other complex chemical reactions.
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>>336893375

Because you create them.
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>>336893375
Because robots can't self improve
It's stupid for robots to have different factions
And many others things
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>>336893451

But they're in the game and they do self improve.
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>>336893451
>self-improve
AIs certainly can. Think of the Geth.
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http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20160509T00&p0=%3A&msg=Stellaris+Release+Date&ud=1&font=sanserif&csz=1

13 HOURS LADS
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>>336893519
proofs?
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>>336893451
why can't robots self improve?
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>>336893498
No, they don't
You improve and rely on them until they decide that organic life is cancer of universe
After that, they are dangereous only because they can produce shit fast as fuck
>>336893576
Because they are fucking robots
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>>336893519
Paradox never releases games on the eu time
And it wouldn't be 00:00 release too, so enjoy waiting 18:00 euro time on monday
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>>336893626
>until they decide that organic life is cancer of universe
Why something based on logic and objectivism would conclude that is beyond me.

Robots would see organic life as a product of the universe, like nuclear fusion or gravity. I doubt they'd try to eradicate that.
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>>336893626
>sentient organics can self-improve
>sentient synthetics can't self-improve
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>Society has long since evolved past the insignificant rivalries and concerns of the individuals. We are numerous but one, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. We stand truly equal....The purpose of the individual is simple: strengthen the collective. To enter the blackness of space we move as one, and we shall not be weakened by wanton separatism.
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>>336893759
Robots dont need life, they need materials

Humans are made of materials

Those materials can fit into machines that grind people into more useful materials.
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>>336893693
(((((
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>>336889354
Best site to buy it?
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>>336893451
What about cyborgs that combine both organic and synthetic material? Can i start out as a human race and turn it into something like pic related?
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>>336894037
He mentioned you can upgrade your ground troops with cybernetics
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>>336894037
It's just a GSG anyway.
The only difference between any of them are some numbers.
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>>336894037
Yes you can
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>>336894037
Yes. If you invest too much into cybernetics research, there's a chance some of your people will turn into cyborg supremacists, basically turn themselves into the borg and split off from your empire.
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That release time sucks cock....
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-is-now-available-for-pre-order-information-faq.920646/page-10#post-20981426
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>get excited for a 4X game
>look it up on cyri
>don't even pass minimum requirements
>mfw
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>>336892327
I don't doubt it will, shill
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>>336894347
>late evening Oceania
Well fuck
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>>336893278
Is dis nigga for real?
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>>336894347
>swede shits giving americans best time

nothing new
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>>336894567
Yes, it'll release in the evening in central Europe tomorrow.
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>>336893626

They literally have massive research bonuses.
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>>336894412
>OS: Windows 7 x86 or newer, Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 640 @ 3.0 Ghz or Intel Core 2 Quad 9400 @ 2.66 Ghz, Memory: 2 GB RAM, Graphics: AMD HD 5770 or Nvidia GTX 460 with 1024MB VRAM, Latest available WHQL drivers from both manufacturers, DirectX: 9.0c, Storage: 4 GB available space, Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card, Controller support: 3-button mouse, keyboard and speakers, Special multiplayer requirements: Internet Connection or LAN for multiplayer.
Looks actually pretty low
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wondering what happens if your slavery tolerance goes over 100%?
does it have any bonuses?
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>>336894347
For fucks sake why would they give burgers the best time, fucking cuckolds
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>>336894532

Late evening Oceania is within 24 hours from now.
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So is this Civilization in space with Warband-ish combat?
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>>336894854
no
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>>336894854
No? It's EU4 in space
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>>336894854

No.
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>>336894854
Heт.
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>>336894412
The minimums don't matter anon, you'll still need higher specs to handle mods and whatever dlc they throw in too.
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>>336889354
Why the fuck is there no ape race?
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>>336894347
>mfw people complaining about preload
>mfw i heard people say that downloading 4gb takes days for them
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>>336894982
There are africans.
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>>336894982
humans are apes
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>>336893626
you are dumb, meathead. stop posting
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>>336894412
Just pirate it to see if you can anyway. As a toasterbro you should know that things will run below minimum just at 20fps
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>>336894761
Your population is divided between your race, migrated aliens, and slaves

Having a high slavery acceptance increases your own populations happiness, which makes them work better at whatever they do. Slaves have a natural bonus to working because they are forced too which makes them more useful than your own race, or migrated aliens, but there are risks like slaves rebelling. Although if you are collectivist slaves have a lower chance to rebel becasue its for the 'greater good'

Your traits and government type have a massive effect on what you can and cant do, and the outcomes of slaves. So its a lot more complicated than that.
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>>336894982
They are called humans
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>>336894982
Mammalian 16 is monkeys, at least.
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>>336895007

>Tfw it will take me an hour or two

Feels horrible.
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>>336894982
top left corner?
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>>336889354
That picture proofs that women are in fact, aliens.
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>>336894838
I thought it would unlock in the morning tomorrow.

Now I have to shitpost on /v/ for another 24 hours instead
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Shame it has that same shitty combat that Gal Civ has.
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How broken will this Paradox game be at release?
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>>336895236
Somewhere between entirely and not at all
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>>336895236
I heard slavery is a problem in the pre-release build right now, but other than that it looks pretty fucking solid.
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>>336895236
No matter what people say, CK2 was pretty good at release. I expect Stallaris to be fine also.
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>>336895236
Do you mean broken as in bugs or broken mechancially?

Not significantly in the former, but very much so in the latter, and I doubt it will ever be rectified.
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>>336895236

Looks pretty safe from all the let's plays that have been done so far.

Where does this "All paradox games are fucked on release" meme come from? Because I don't remember EUIV or CK2 being broken on release.
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>>336895310
>CK2 was pretty good at release
90% of events were broken, like giving money to pope or claim ones
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>>336895070
yeh I know but I was wondering if you went with a fanatically collectivist divine mandate you'd have +100% slavery tolerance from the collectivist and +50% additional from the government form
does that extra 50% do anything or not?
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>>336894732
That's the saddest part.

>>336894978
Yeah, I've tasted that on SOASE

>>336895065
True, I do that for most games anyway and it usually comes out unplayable even when I nail every setting to the floor. Or because cunt devs don't allow setting changes and then I have to fuck around with .cfg or .ini files to get some semblance of playability.
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>>336895360
>Because I don't remember EUIV or CK2 being broken on release

lel
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>>336889840
What's wrong with Sword City?
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>>336893394
That simplistic description works on literally every living thing on the planet
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>>336895360
Are you fucking serious nigger?

Just stop posting if you think those 2 games had a good release.
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>>336895385
I don't think slavery tolerance works like that. 100% just means they're twice as tolerant to it than normal, so the negative impact is halved, not that they're 100% fine with slavery.
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>>336895505

What was wrong with them?
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>>336895459
It's garbage, even worse than dt2
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>>336895385
From what iv seen it stacks, so you'll have a 150% bonus to happiness from the presence of slavery.
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Avian 11
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Is this accurate?
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>>336893626
>robots can't improve themselves because they are robots

I'd like to introduce you to something:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_%28rhetoric%29
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My Draconic reptilian race shall enslave the galaxy with mind control parasites.
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>>336895559
dt2 is amazing, you nigger
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SO how will the multiplayer in this game be?

It seems like multi cant work for a few reasons
1: diplomacy is a huge part of this game and most human players are warring fuckers from the get-go and
2: Lag is likely to occur

So what's the point? Unless multiplayer also has some AI and you arent sure which is human and AI, so you diplomacy might work better if you think you can reason with AI more than a human
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>>336895589
>reich
>talented
>Quick learners
lol
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>>336895589
>spiritualistic
wut
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>>336895310
>>336895382
The biggest thing broken on release with CK2 was multiplayer
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>>336895696
>1: diplomacy is a huge part of this game and most human players are warring fuckers from the get-go and
That's just wrong
>2: Lag is likely to occur
What makes you think this?
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>>336895589
>>336895653
Where do you get these from?
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>>336895696

You've never played a multiplayer GS game before, it's really really fun the bigger the group of people you have. You get some real legit diplomacy and fuckhuge world wars, it's amazing sometimes.
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>>336895774
Because of videos

Also how am i wrong?
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>>336895537
Even quick look from google gives answers like events being broken, some features not working as intended or not working at all amongst other things like crashing and endlessly loading. Of course, you might be one of those "works on my machine"
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>>336895792
Read the thread
>>336890247
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>>336895743

Literally all Paradox games had fucked built-in multiplayer pre-steamworks. You just used hamachi and it was fine.
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>>336895696
War is half of diplomacy stupid
You can customize the amount of AI and human players.
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>>336895796
That's if you play with people you know irl

Not online

Online strategies boil down to:
> isolationist warring faggot
> temporary ally waiting on the edge of his seat to betray you
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>>336895831

Literally all games have a mountain of retards who can't get it working on their computer.

Please show me a single game where people don't complain about not being able to get shit working on their shitboxes.
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>>336895819
You're wrong because most people who invest 10+ hours into a single multiplayer session wouldn't go full retard and risk drawing the attention of everyone else in the game right away.
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>>336895869
>War is half of diplomacy stupid
So if you're going to redefine the terms of diplomacy to make it seem like war all the time is good, then it doesn't strengthen your overall argument that there is more to just war online.
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>>336894854
pic related?
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>>336895886

Who the fuck plays random online games in grand strategy? You can't even fucking complete a game in one sitting, shit can take weeks.

Nobody does that.
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>>336893394
everything is extremely fascinating if you look at it like that. You don't really have a point
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>>336895986
>Who the fuck plays random online games in grand strategy?

People with friends who don't play GSG's?
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>>336895920
Paradox games have always been special case of being total shit at release without patches, even if they "work"
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>>336894629
Exact time and time zone?
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>>336896079

What? That makes no sense? Do you mean no friends?

Even those people don't do that, they just play the single player.
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>>336895696
The multiplayer stream proved neither of those are issues
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Picking humans to show all other xenoforms humanity is not to be messed with.

Second run through is purge everything for emperor of mankind.
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>>336896115
"later afternoon CEST"
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>>336896117
It makes no sense to have friends that don't play GSG's? What?
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How is this different from Endless Space?
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>>336896186
Ah, ok - so I'll get it Monday morning first thing. Thanks, anon
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>>336896215

Oh right, I read it as "has friends" and "doesn't play GSGs" because I was under the assumption that you don't play GSGs if you think people actually play random pub games.
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>>336896278
It's more like Distant Worlds than Endless Space
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>>336896321
Nah, I wanna play with other human players online but I cant for my aforementioned reasons.
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>>336896278
Its actually good
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>>336896395

Just join the Grand Strategy group (that isn't linked to /gsg/) and play their games, they'd doing a big stellaris game when it comes out.
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>>336896395
>I can't because of reasons I made up
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>>336896398
Maybe it will be good.
kek
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>>336896483
I'm going off experience of previous releases
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>>336889354

>#12 fungoid

Lava mushroom master race
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>>336895589
fixed
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>>336896737
>individualist
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>>336896737

Hey, you're alright. Don't join the GS groups game tomorrow.
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>>336896761
>Nietzsche and the aryan ubermensch were never a thing
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>>336889354
Most of these look like shit to be honest
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>>336896839
>Aryan Übermensch
>Nietzsche

I think you to read him one more time.
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Who here avian fanatic collectivist?
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How many hours till it comes out in Asia?
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>>336897071
37h
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>>336896946
uhhhh...

You do know who Nietzsche is, right?
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>>336897202
Closer to 29.
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>>336897071
For Asia is a week delay anounced due to localization issues.
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>>336897234
And you do know about her sister, right?
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>>336897234
I read books of him yes.
Never stated anything of a Aryan Ubermensch there.

Ubermensch is a state of the individualistic mind.
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>>336891746
also Ruiner
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>>336897796
>Xenophobe
>Individualist
>Spiritualist

Sounds more like a Trumptrooper to me
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>>336896956
Militarist, Fanatical Xenophobe

Molluscoid 6
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Human race, just go around exterminating all xenos scum.
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>>336890943
gotta be prepared for the worst case scenario
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>>336897329
And germans are aryan

seems to me you just wanted to argue about something rather than actually make a point about anything
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>>336898514
lego spiders?
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>>336898717
>And germans are aryan
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>>336893842
Fucking space commies.
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>>336898857
That's not even communism. That's like... idk some kind of hivemind racial trait. Individualism is inherent to the human species. Once you eliminate the individual you're turning into a sort of hive race, and quite frankly you are no longer human; you've diverged far enough to be another species entirely.
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>>336898717
This whole post is just...

You should really read Nietzsche before talking shit.
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>>336896839
>>336898717
Are you seriously arguing for the fact that national socialism is an individualistic ideology? Can you say in what sense it is? Both nationalism and socialism is ideologies that put the collective before the individual. Hitler talked about sacrificing for your people all the time. Sterilizing the handicapped to better the nation is about as non individualistic you can get.
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>>336890649

Just continue posting there. As with every release there are some fucking autists who goes apeshit as usual.
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>>336891868

>those mould lines

Jesus fucking Christ atleast post something respectable.
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Wow, I'm surprised
Looks like my pc can't run it at all
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=23339&game=Stellaris
Is it time to cancel preorder?
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>>336899643
Well... it IS a fungus
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>>336890094
You can research these things.
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>>336899783
Post specs.
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>>336891292
Oh, it's fighters.

>was planning on being Space America
>now I can have carrier groups

Fun times
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>>336899783
>64% of people would have to upgrade their PC to play stellaris

are you kidding me?

My computer's like 5 years old and I still manage to exceed the recommended specs.
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dont bully me too hard
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>>336900048
too many ethos you dumb nigger
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>>336900113
Bit confused since it lets me pick as many as that and still said I had points left so I just picked what I could.
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>>336900154
you get three greens or one orange and green
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>>336900253
Well I refreshed so it gave me the right points to work this time.
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reminder that slaves cant revolt. They cant even join factions as theyre in slave faction. You can slave unhappy or otherwise "hostile" pops without any drawbacks. Slaves cant do anything bad unlike normal pops so theres no reason to now enslave everyone

Bravo paradox
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>>336900770
DLCs will fix that.
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>>336900770

Yeah but there are fallen empires and other nations in general that will declare war on you for being a dick-ass slave owner.
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>>336900770
Not true, factions spawn within your empire and can splinter off under certain circumstances, one of those potential factions is run by slaves.
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>>336900770
My bugs are ready, worker caste strictly enforced
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>>336891746
Don't forget
>witcher 3: Blood and Wine
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>>336901087
Pretty sure they will form a certain sorts of govs, but it would be funny if
>slaves revolt and win
>slave leaders form an empire that imposes slavery
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i want the game but i dunno if i should preorder.

i'll probably do the smart thing and wait for the steam reviews reaction first. probably buy it on tuesday.
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>>336901250
historically accurate
most slave revolts weren't against the principle of slavery, but rather against the fact that THEY were the slaves
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>>336893210
Buyfags are slowly taking over /v/
This is worse than neo-/v/
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>>336901380
There's not torrent yet my friend, the RG-M you see if you search for one is not from the official website.

Just wait for tomorrow
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>>336901341
Buy it then refund it if its shit

Thats what I do for everything now.

Unless you really dont care about the preorder bonuses
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>>336901596
are there preorder bonuses for stellaris?
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Anons,what will be the best/useless trait to pick at the start?

Invidualist and pacifist seems like the most useless to me
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>people being genuinely hyped for a modern paradox release
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>>336901645
They are shit so don't bother.
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