What went wrong?
>>336645564
too many viral threads
Teammates.
Basically little to no depth and reason to keep coming back to it. Certainly not worth $40
Blizzard
>>336645564
It's a $40 version of Duck Game.
And Duck Game might have more depth.
>>336645564
It doesn't come near to TF2 in its prime.
>>336645748
It's not even out yet "in its prime"
>>336645564
It's a fun game and all but no where near worth the full price purchase
>>336645564
It's a fun casual game, but that's about it.
It has the depth of a kiddie pool in terms of skill needed, so I can see it being extremely popular.
It came out the same time as Paragon and Battleborn
>>336645564
>No loudouts.
>No additional weapons.
>No talents.
>No effect-changing skins.
>No custom lobbies.
>No private games.
>No capture the flag.
>No team deathmatch.
>No MOBA elements.
>No progression.
>Slow as fuck movement
>Horrible melee combat.
>Shallower versions of Heroes of The Storm characters, which are usually copies of LoL characters, anyway.
Overwatch feels like a game that should've come out at the dawn of the FPS genre, not this far into it. It's outclassed in every way by Battleborn and its competitors aside from character charisma.
>>336646861
battleborn looks like absolute shit though
>>336646861
>effect-changing skins
>talents
>loadouts
kek, did you play too much Halo or P2W shooters or something
>>336647036
No, but I expect to make my play-style individualistic in some way, fucking dipshit.
Even Doom/Quake let me choose my weapons.
>>336646141
paragon isnt even in the same genre
>>336646861
>No MOBA elements.
THat's a good thing.
>>336647024
Graphically, yes. Battleborn is shit.
But at least the player matters. Overwatch you just pick a character and play it the way you're supposed to or you're straight done.
>>336647534
No, it really isn't, because they've taken MOBA inspiration and thrown out the gameplay of it. It's essentially a watered down FPS with no individuality.
IT'S HIGH NOON IT'S HIGH NOON IT'S HIGH NOON IT'S HIGH NOON IT'S HIGH NOON SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD IT'S HIGH NOON IT'S HIGH NOON
>Genji's ultimate doesn't one-shot and is a Melee attack
>Bastion's ultimate one-shot's non-tanks and is ranged
>>336647250
Neither is battleborn
The beta is very fun
but now you have seen the entire game
this will have no staying power, will sell well then die in two months time
I can't fuck D.Va.
too many tracers
>>336647736
This. Unless they plug some serious content into this thing, it's fucking dead.
>>336647534
Moba elements are great if done right. In-game levels make it so no two games are identical and you can specialize in something if needed, creeps are a nice distraction and towers are an easy objective for even the dumbest retard to try and destroy
>maps are bad
>game modes are stale 10+ year old modes
>everyone is slow as fuck movespeed
>everyone dies in 2-3 hits from anything
>every map is a chokepoint
>every match is a meat grinder at the end
>every game is you vs your team vs the enemy team
>no fun allowed
>winning/killing isn't even satisfying since you don't work for it
>>336647736
Its a blizzard game, people will buy it for that reason heck all my friends preordered without looking into it.
>>336646861
>Shallower versions of Heroes of The Storm characters, which are usually copies of LoL characters, anyway
Oh man I kek'd at that retarded statement.
LoL characters were copies first. Of Dota characters. Which were copies of WC3 characters.
>>336647818
>When you're Hanzo and 420 noscoping people so much half of the team changes to Tracer and spends the rest of the game trying to shit on you but they lose anyway
Game is fun. f2p kids don't have $40 to spend on a game. Can't pirate.
>>336648019
>You didn't needlessly expound on something that was already long-winded so it's retarded.
Nice needless post and knowledge you waste of life.
>>336648019
Only a few DotA characters were clones of Warcraft 3 characters. I'm pretty sure since long before either DotA 2 or LoL existed all heroes copied from WC3 characters were changed or remade.
I know this is basically asking for shitpost replies, but I am 100% sincere: Consoles are the biggest part of what went wrong. Besides the obvious focus-grouping that went into this game, the fact that OW has to be on consoles will severely limit its lifespan. Game like this need community and it just won't get the injections of content it needs to have to maintain a community.
>>336645564
>6v6
DOA
>game literally hasn't come out yet
>already 50 threads against or for it
>>336648315
The Open Beta is going on right now you slow retard
>>336648315
Everyone is playing it for free; it's out.
game seems fun but i do wonder about its long term viability
will they add new weapons? new classes? different skills? how many of these will be micro transactions? seems like a lot of effort went into cosmetic variety but not much game play variety
also takes too long to get to the objective most of the time
>>336648273
>the fact that OW has to be on consoles will severely limit its lifespan.
if anything it will increase it since consoles have no games and people will play anything. fuck they're even playing bf3 by the thousands
>>336646861
>no loadouts
>no effect-changing skins
>no MOBA elements
I fail to see how these are bad in any way.
>>336648347
so?
it hasn't been officially released yet
>>336646048
goddamn I love robotjoe's girls.
>>336648382
Honestly, I don't know any console owner that is buying this game. Man, one of the guys I know isn't buying it because no one he knows is buying it, and his friends list has like 500 people on it and he regularly played with half of those people or more.
>>336645564
The best part of Overwatch free beta was that I realized how much more fun I had with Garden Warfare 2...it even looks a lot better, and considering Blizzard is filthy rich, that's pretty sad.
>>336648394
>I-it's a beta!
If you think they're going to change shit, you're pretty dumb pal.
shit teammates
>>336648507
dude how old are you, like 15?
>>336648393
>I fail to see how no individuality is bad.
That's because you're a moron.
>>336648482
Not that anon but my friends aren't buying it for the same reason. I got a "I'd buy it on pc but I prefer controllers" out of one guy so that's the console market for you.
>>336645564
Mei isn't the main character
>>336648569
>I have nothing intelligent to say, but I bet this guy is insecure about his age! That's my attack route for sure!
>All these people acting like it has no depth
lol
>All these people like it won't be patched/updated
double lol
>>336648746
Jesus christ you sound like a total faggot.
>>336648746
thanks for proving my point i guess
>>336647552
I like the way Battleborn looks too. Dat Caldarius shine.
Also, they're different games.
>>336648651
>Turn corner
>See a Mei standing there
>Take hands off keyboard and just wait for death
Its terrible
The spawn rooms for defense right next to the last point on most of the maps, and respawn times are the same on both teams.
Real amateur team FPS design.
>>336645564
>What went wrong?+ 0 post omitted.
It was too dumbed down.
Blizzard is also shit at visual design.
>>336648651
A-Mei-zing
A-Mei-zing
A-Mei-zing
>>336648507
the game has changed alot since the last beta I was in.
>>336648393
One thing I find disappointing as fuck is how bland some characters are and just how disproportionately designed some are compared to others.
Take Winston for example. He can shoot, jump, has a shield and his ult is basically he can melee people.
Now take Junkrat. He can shoot, place land mines and bear traps and remotely trigger the land mines. He can also rocket jump off of the land mines. If he dies he drops several grenades around him. His ult is a remotely controlled explosive.
Winston has 4 abilities with minimal alternative uses.
Junkrat has like 6 abilities and at least one has an alternative use (rocket jumping off of mines).
It's kind of dumb how some characters seem to have shoot, one other ability and an ult, while others seem to have 20 fucking abilities.
>>336645564
Nothing. If the beta is any indication this game is polished and very fun.
>>336648394
Its out in like two weeks man, the beta has more than enough content to really judge the game.
>>336648790
Are you seriously implying overwatch has any kind of meaningful depth
>she liked it
>>336648904
>Not shooting her in her stupid fat face with a grenade
>>336648790
I haven't posted in this thread, nor do I have any special investment in the game. That being said, I think it'll probably be updated since it's blizzard we're talking about.
But by the same token, it IS Blizzard so I have no idea of the assurance of quality in content or in general business practices.
Nearly every IP that Blizzard is in charge of currently has been shitting the bed with content updates in the past few years. In fact I'm amazed that Overwatch is launching relatively scot free. HotS business model is fucking terrible and one of the more recent WoW patches simply added shit like "Twitter integration"
>tldr
I'm not confident all the updates will be positive ones.
>>336646861
Most of your points are garbage and contradictory.
>>336648927
Mei Reinhardt Bastion and Junkrat all exist for a reason.
Also, it's like CS. The maps are designed to be played with each team playing as offense then switching to defense (or vice-versa), If you think it's unfair, you're just not sticking around for the second half of the game.
>>336648746
Only a 15 year old upset at getting his age insulted would act like this.
>>336649084
>D.VA
>Grenades
Boost was on CD. Shooting Mei just slows you down even more
>>336649063
oops, wrong file
Why are you people saying it has no depth
There's infinite team compositions you can make, each character is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, wit their own set of skills
That's the opposite of no depth
>>336648273
>Consoles are the biggest part of what went wrong
This.
>>336649027
Are you implying it doesn't?
>>336649106
The team seems like they're listening to the community so far. It seems like they realized their demographic is the "hardcore" FPS crowd that wants a competitive game and not the hug-box reddit casual demographic. I hope they continue to balance for people that know what they're doing rather than shitters.
>>336645564
This game is better than Bloodborne.
>>336645638
/thread
Why the fuck is there so much visual clutter on the screen, it's impossible to see anything
>>336649241
proud of you
>>336648867
Thanks for proving mine.
>>336649265
Because at the end of the day, there is very little to each character. One 5 minute long game is enough to see everything a character has to offer.
If it's taking you 5 minutes to fully experience a character, it can't have a lot of depth you know?
I'm buying it on PS4 because it contradicts the people saying nobody they know is buying it on consoles
>>336645564
There are too many other competitive developers for Blizzard's broad appeal to work like it used to.
I played it for 4 hours today.
Playing against bots is boring, playing against other players is annoying.
Not gonna buy it.
>>336648273
You realize unreal tournament, Quake 3, CSGO, and TF2 were all on consoles, right?
They're gonna do the bare-minimum to support consoles and they've already made PC only changes and confirmed they'll be balanced separately.
>>336648869
>They're different games.
Stop saying this dumb shit.
>>336647736
Tf2 released additional content very sparingly in the first few years and stuck around fine. Meanwhile this game has 3 times as many characters (which even abiding by the "hurt durr no weapons loadout" argument amounts to an at least comparable amount of depth) and you're so sure it'll die? Needlessly cynical opinion you got there.
>>336649409
dude go back to playing csgo or dota or whatever kids ur age are playing and stay away from here
>>336645602
Ya all of these Overwatch threads taking away from the so important Dark Souls threads
>>336648927
>Real amateur team FPS design.
As expected by what's basically the PvP mode of a canceled MMO.
>>336649487
It is a different game though. Prove him wrong.
>you won't prove him wrong you'll just shitpost some more
epic
>>336649415
You can experience everything a class in TF2 or the Quake 3 character can do in 5 minutes too. Stop being reductive.
>>336649323
>The team seems like they're listening to the community so far
I mean we'll just have to see down the line. There's a mountain of evidence against them based on precedent, and as to the current state of the game, not much has actually been changed aside from a few balance tweaks and useless alteration to a pose because some dad got butthurt.
The general design of the game seems like it's more catering to casuals than it is "hardcore fps fans"
Still it's a refreshing change of pace from the average dudebro shooter at the moment.
>>336649373
meanwhile the health bar is nearly transparent and tiny.
I got used to it, but I wish UI customization was supported.
>>336649479
Annoying because you couldn't have fun because you were doing poorly? Go be a noob somewhere else.
>>336649063
>dick
that's like gay though man
>>336649427
My pc is a toaster and i'm too afraid to buy it on ps4 because its most likely going to be ded on consoles in like 6 months. Also some characters are tough enough to follow with a mouse, controller would be hell.
>>336649621
the skill ceiling in this game is the equivalent of a paddling pool, i doubt he did poorly
I should save all these salt-posts about failure now; they're gonna be great when the game is still going strong circa 2020.
>>336649659
I would say that it comes down to just how feminine the penis is, really
>>336645638
this
WHY THE FUCK ARE TEAMMATES RETARDED
>too many snipers
>they continue to all stay fucking snipers
or
>I am a healer
>they still run away and try and find health and leave me alone with objective
>>336649596
Here's a pity (You) cause thats the worst bait I've ever seen
>>336649606
>not much has actually been changed
What about the numerous game-modes and maps they've added already? Weekly Brawl too. They've all ready added more than they said they were going to have at launch.
>>336649717
>going to be dead on consoles in 6 months
>Diablo 3 is superior on PS4
>PS4 has the most active STAR WARS™: BattleFront™ community still
It's a MOBA trying to be a TF2 clone
>>336649824
Explain why you can't.
Widows grappling hook has a stupidly long CD make it 6 seconds not 12
>>336649917
>MOBA
I don't think you know what that means
>>336649527
bro, TF2 has dedicated servers and lots of custom maps and game modes; you can keep people coming back, and these servers garner communities within themselves. TF2 also has solid and for the most part balanced gameplay.
Overwatch will get boring below the 100 hour mark
>>336649917
Its not a MOBA and nothing like a MOBA, thanks for dropping by and confirming you haven't even played it.
>>336649596
And I never said those games have depth.
Take Tracer for example. When I played her I was left saying to myself "is that all?".
She has a shoot which has no depth at all. It's fast, but short range. You get close to people and shoot them with it. It has 1 use.
She has a dash with 3 uses that quickly recharge. You either use it to get close to people and shoot them, or to get away from people shooting at you. It has 2 uses.
She has a sticky bomb with tiny range but is almost a guaranteed 1 hit kill. This is another ability that has no depth. You get close to people and use it to kill them, it has 1 use.
She can also rewind time for herself slightly. This is her only ability with any kind of depth because it can heal damage and move you out of harms way. It has 2 uses, heal yourself or move out of the way of damage.
That is not depth. All of her abilities have 1 or 2 uses and she only has 4 abilities (of which two are very similar).
>>336649154
Contradictory how?
i don't particularly like it, but i don't have any issues with anyone else liking it.
>>336649719
I disagree. Through a mix of strategy of picks/counters as well as the inherent skill ceiling of fps aiming to play this game optimally takes I'd say a notch less skill than Tf2 which has a very high ceiling competitively.
How do you fix him?
>>336645564
No symmetrical maps and some heroes being ridiculously more overpowered than others, each form for each hero should've had 2 weapons at least.
>>336649717
>some characters are tough enough to follow with a mouse, controller would be hell.
You're not wrong. It's impossible to follow Tracer on PS4.
It balances out though, because Tracer has just as much trouble turning to find you while teleporting.
>>336649917
Literally the only similarity is the basic design of heros (abilities+cooldowns) the vast majority of this game is a mixture of Tf2 and halo.
>>336649998
>bro, TF2 has dedicated servers and lots of custom maps and game modes; you can keep people coming back, and these servers garner communities within themselves.
None of which were there at launch, and all of which are dead now.
>TF2 also has solid and for the most part balanced gameplay.
Tf2 aint balanced, and Overwatch is already fairly balanced itself. IT's also not even out yet, now isn't the time to be complaining about balance issues.
>Overwatch will get boring below the 100 hour mark
I just passed 100 between the OB and the CB, and I'm not tired yet, my enjoyment shows no signs of stopping.
Also: It's not an either-or, you can still play TF2, and I plan to do so.
>>336650069
Damage drop off, otherwise he's fine
>>336650016
You farm lanes for cash to buy gear until you get an ultimate and pentakill the teamfight and push the towers. Pretty much an DOTA exactly.
>>336649621
no it's annoying because it's 21 unbalanced heroes in a forced 6v6 one shot shitshow with push to win mechanics give away for free
>>336650142
>No symmetrical maps
confirmed for not playing.
>>336649867
>numerous game-modes and maps
They've added one game mode, and 3 maps for that game-mode.
As for future plans they've only explicitly stated that they would like to add more characters eventually.
If all we get is more characters and maps that's not necessarily bad, but it most likely won't add any extra depth to the game than what we've already got.
The maps are probably my biggest problem so far, pretty much all of them flow the exact same way, with nothing but visuals to distinguish them.
>>336650069
How do we fix her?
>>336650065
>the inherent skill ceiling of fps aiming
>in a 20 tick rate game
Yeah getting shot through a wall takes skill
>>336650165
>tracer on consoles
>>336650069
Remove him.
>>336647817
biggest problem right here
>>336650042
>A short ranged gun has no depth at all
Wow, just like every other one purpose weapon in TF2 and every game ever?
>Dash
You can use it to blink over pits and even up certain obstacles. It can also be used to evade in a 1v1 scenario and fuck with your opponent.
>Sticky bomb
Not much to say here.
>Time rewind
Can be used to flank, heal, ammo reset, and as an additional blink in extended fights.
The depth is fine.
It would be fine as a $20 game
>>336649824
>Can't refute anything
>oh wait, let's call his post bait
>>336650305
I did, no maps have symmetrical starts. At least none in my hour of playtime.
>>336650308
let me impregnate her
>>336645564
>went wrong
It's open beta, no?
I never realized how satisfying Winston could be.
>>336649998
You have a decent point about the community aspect of servers but I think the gaming community is connected enough through external communities and with party features people can still get a similar experience.
>>336650276
i think you are confusing this game with battleborn
>tfw Bastion attacks you an Genji
Nothing personel kid
>>336649762
This has been my exact experience.
Also that retarded tank you're trying to buff to push into the objective and they just sit back and keep peaking walls.
>>336650142
Every character in the game needed alternate fire, a movement ability and a passive.
It's weird how some characters get this and others don't for no apparent reason.
>>336650381
>he takes the open beta meme seriously
>not realizing its just a free trial to boost sales two weeks from now
>>336649998
>TF2 also has solid and for the most part balanced gameplay.
Literally keked. When competitive enforces class limits/bans just to achieve balance, you know something is fucked up. Don't get me started on the horrible weapon releases over the years, some of which were never balanced properly even to this day.
>>336649621
>noob
Do people still say that? Am I back in 2003?
>>336650381
Its a soft opening, the game is out in a few weeks
>>336650308
Find some kind of way to let me plunge my penis deep inside of her
>>336650042
The depth is in how you use them.
Explain to me a character in a shooter who you think is complex and I'll be just as reductive as you're being.
You're being obtuse for the sake of argument.
>>336650308
Make the splash of her Q even larger so I can get Hexakills for free.
>>336648507
Yarp 'cause no other Blizzard game ever changed
Some heroes are blatantly outclassed by others
D Va, Symmetra
Are there any fun characters?
Closest I've found is Reinhardt
Boring after 10 hours of playing, shame because I was really looking forward to this game too.
>>336650370
So you didn't play any KotH? I think you're lying, m8.
Nothing the games fine.
>Project Titan mmo was turned into this
>WoW suffered and decayed for years for this
This whole game feels like the pvp mode for a first person mmo that will never be.
>no deathmatch mode
>forced 6v6 competetive all the time
>can't even select which game mode you want to play
why does blizzard treat us like this? they do the same thing in heroes of the storm too.
oh you want to play on a specific map? fuck you
why is valve the only gaming company left with any sense
>>336650550
>Symmetra
>blatantly outclassed
Never have I seen a more wrong statement in my life
>>336649154
>no MOBA elements
How is this inherently a bad thing? The game isn't even trying to be a MOBA. Having 'hero's' with unique abilities doesn't make a game a MOBA, although it might appeal to that audience. Overwatch is a Tf2 successor. I'd go point by point with the rest if I weren't on mobile, but that's the main retardation in your logic.
>>336650657
It is a real problem considering how garbage some of the map playlists are. I'd rather just avoid whole game modes entirely as a result.
>>336650560
Lucio is pretty fun especially on a team with loads of tanks
Went the sniper class, and shot everyone I'm the head, got called a hacker then uninstalled because everyone fucking sucked and the tick rate is really fucking noticeable. Back to CS for me
>>336650550
What do you mean? Symmetra is a must have on defence in any mode. Otherwise you need to run through entire map after death.
It's fun but really unbalanced for example I think Hanzo does far too much damage and Torbjorns sentry is very overpowered.
I would say my only fear is that it ends up like the other shooters released this year that no one plays anymore like Siege and other shit I can't think of.
>>336650069
>How do you fix him?
Add spread and damage drop off past a certain range. Minigun that fires that fast having the accuracy of a sniper rifle just makes me want to keep my money.
>>336650461
Noob is the 'cool' of gaming. It's been used since online gaming began and will be used forevermore.
>>336650308
Her Q needs to be able to go through close walls. Dropping it and having the entire team just walk around the corner is guff
>>336650657
>why is valve the only gaming company left with any sense
Because their primary goal is just making fun games rather than appealing to console retards or forcing esports shit into everything.
overwatch looks and plays like Brink, but worse. bravo Blizzard
>>336650365
I'm done debating, I'm not going to argue with blizzdrones. But fine, tell me how you mastered all forms of rocket jumping in 5 minutes with soldier.
>>336650797
>Picking Symmetra over le Dwarf Man of OP Sentries
git gud
>>336650283
Literally none of that sentence makes sense. You must have played a different game amigo.
>>336650550
>Play Reinhardt
>Melee wrecks shit
>Dash is fucking massive range, does damage and can kill most shit instantly
>Shield is invincible
>Huge damage ranged attack
>Massive range AOE stun for an ult
>Play Winston
>Get some piddling damage almost melee range lightning gun
>Have a jump that does a flat, fairly low amount of damage
>Shield is so weak I've seen Tracers pop it in seconds
>Melee attacks do piss poor damage and knock back so much you're basically pushing the enemy to safety
What the fuck where they thinking?
How does the medal system work? What are the different medals actually indicating? Is it saying you are performing the best on your team if you're gold? Or is it more to do with your career averages?
How can you evaluate how your teammates are doing? I wanna be able to tell the offense shitters aren't getting any kills whatsoever.
>>336650797
That's literally the only useful think about her.
She doesn't deal any damage and her shield is pretty weak
>>336650308
give her weapons that do damage
>>336650884
>Brink
Non-existent games that no one has ever played don't count.
>>336650237
>IT's also not even out yet, now isn't the time to be complaining about balance issues.
NOWS THE PERFECT TIME TO COMPLAIN ABOUT BALANCE.
I got in the open beta today and had a lot of fun playing it. Like, a lot, I should be studying for college but I spent my whole afternoon playing.
That said, I don't think there's much more to see in the game. I mean, 21 characters sound like a lot, but in a game you can change to whatever character every time you die, it loses the charm reeeally quick. In a few hours you've seem everything and knows about everything and can play decently on every character. I don't see myself buying this because as much fun as I had today, this can't last more than a week.
Also every game mode looks the same and feels that same. Gets really boring after a while. Maybe I'll revisit the game a few years from here and some major expansions are made down the road, also when it either goes f2p or the price drops.
I'l say I liked this a lot more I liked tf2 though.
>Reinhardt shields
>Bastion sets up turret and mows people down
>Widowmaker shoots safely from 3 miles away
Every single game
>>336650848
>valve
>making games
>not forcing esports
The fucking irony
>>336650940
I played winston once. Never again.
Easily the least played character, I've barely seen anyone play as him.
>>336650848
LMAO That's fucking gold
>>336649762
>>336650445
Maybe stop playing with mouth breathers?
I've only ever played with a premade 6 lobby and we roll.
>>336649762
If their health is getting to a point where they need to run away from an objective to restore their health, then you aren't playing healer right.
I agree with the sniper thing, though. You don't need snipers when attacking. Not a single one. If you're a CoD kid who can't handle learning new play styles, then play Soldier: 76 when attacking. He's piss-easy and within everyone's comfort zone.
>>336650848
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH
Oh my god, do you really believe this?HAHAHAHA
HA
Dude, Valve isn't your friend. They don't make games so people can have fun. They make games so people buy shit and give them money, like literally every other company in the world.
>>336650884
Why do people who clearly have never even touched the game bother posting?
>only character I like playing is Mercy
>her gameplay boils down to left clicking someone
>>336651051
The only thing Winston can do that Reinhardt can't is jump across large spaces. For everything else, Reinhardt is just better.
>>336646861
>no custom lobbies
>no private games
Pretty sure there are.
>>336651053
>>336651037
>>336651126
If you don't like CSGO competitive you can open the server browser and play casual or deathmatch. Or you can surf, or do any other custom game modes.
If you don't like payload in Overwatch you're forced to play it because you can't even choose which game mode to queue for.
Defend this shit blizzdrones.
>Fire slow moving fully charged shot at Tracer. She runs through it, takes 90% of her HP in one hit. Finish her off with a single M1.
>Getting shot from behind by another Tracer. Start charging shot, turn around and lob it at her. One shot.
Damn it feels good to be Symmetra.
>>336650902
>blizzdrones
I played literally a single blizzard game and it's this one, and I haven't even paid for it. I'm also not the guy you're dabating with, I'm just calling you out on your retardation. If you can't debate properly close the thread and go play videogames or something.
>>336650709
Meant for
>>336650052
>>336651034
yeah it's been one day and every match is already this, lol fuck you Blizzard
>>336650998
No, when things are being actively patched and changed regularly, it's dumb to complain about relatively minor quirks, again, especially before the game is even out.
>>336650884
>Brink
damn pham you reminded me of that game. just checked how many people are playing it on Steam right now. it's 3.
3 players online.
>>336650940
Winston is better for disrupting the backline with his jump and braindead left click laser. But yeah, his kit lacks cohesiveness with a useless shield and dumb ult.
>>336651175
Don't forget flying back and forth. I think they should buff her dash movespeed a bit since it feels slow and awkward when used on someone close by.
>hit someone point blank with pharah's ult
>they take 90% damage and then kill me
epic
>>336651175
>play mercy
>play of the game every game cause you pressed Q
i like the game but tracer, bastion and mccree just make the game so unfun
>>336651126
Gaben was already a millionaire when he funded Valve. He only made the company to make fun games.
What went wrong for me personally is how cranked the fucking bloom/lighting is and no amount of fucking with the settings is getting rid of it. It's like we're in 2010 again with BLOOM = HD GUD GRAFIX
>>336650457
Calling everything "meme".
I can't take you seriosly.
>>336650826
but thats why he's awesome. you fear him.
though he can get his shit wrecked if you use teamwork.
Bastion is fine.
>>336651234
>CSGOfags
I will never understand people who can play a game with RNG spread and shitty ticrates.
>>336651037
DOTA2 esport scene is mostly run by fans, Valve does jackshit for it outside of the International.
>>336650902
Did you say "master"? No, you said "see" you mastered nothing about tracer in however much time you played, sorry.
>>336651403
Sure, maybe back then. They don't even make games anymore, they just maintain the ones they already have with microtransactions. Surelly, these MTs don't exactly fuck up the game, but it's undeniably a cash grab.
>>336650992
I remember buying it full price, hug me anon I'm crying
still better than OW tho kek
>>336651363
I've never once seen a Winston "disrupt the backlines". He'll jump in and get obliterated in half a second.
Meanwhile, Reinhardt can put up his shield and just walk towards anyone to slap their shit. God help you if you're between him and a wall. And if his ult is up, you and half your team is disabled for like 5 fucking seconds (basically you're dead).
Winston is just an inferior Reinhardt. There are several other characters who are in a similar situation.
>>336650840
>Her Q needs to be able to go through close walls.
Her Q is already OP as fuck in my experience. It has an insanely large radius:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqwepATv6nI
>>336650560
Winston can be fun if you know to move around a lot instead of just standing still holding left click.
>>336650069
Give him his shield back or allow him to move out of turret mode much faster.
I had a match like that. We punched through the shield and won easily.
>>336651581
>undeniably a cash grab
>anything community-made supports the person who made it directly
>Gaben bought a shit ton of Southern Hospitalities personally once when the guy who made the wrench wrote him a letter thanking him for adding his item to the game
>>336646861
>No loudouts
And? That's not the point of the game. Pick a different character instead.
>No additional weapons
And? That's not the point of the game. Pick a different character instead.
>No talents
And? That's not the point of the game. Pick a different character instead.
>No effect-changing skins.
It's Blizzard, do you really think they can resist the shekels for long?
>No custom lobbies
As I understand it, this is untrue.
>No private games
Same for this.
>No capture the flag
An actual valid complaint. They've probably commented on this at some point but I can't be fucked to find out.
>No team deathmatch
TDM in class based shooters is hot garbage. For example, Arena in TF2 is dead as fuck.
>No MOBA elements
Good.
>No progression
Objectively false. Since you haven't qualified progression, the leveling up technically counts. There is also ranked.
>Slow as fuck movement
That's like, your opinion man.
>Horrible melee combat.
An actual valid complaint.
>Shallower versions of Heroes of The Storm characters, which are usually copies of LoL characters, anyway
That's like, your opinion man.
TL:DR More is not inherently better, your opinions have no substance, the game is still average.
Why is D Va so bad? She's got a giant fucking hitbox including a giant fucking head, so she dies faster than all the other tanks, her shield sucks shit, and her guns might as well be melee weapons for how shitty they shoot past point blank, and her ult is one of the worst of all the characters. Her booster is cool but basically everything else about her is terrible.
>>336650940
>>336651051
Winston seems shit but is actually really good in the right hands. The bubble especially is way better than Reinhardt's shield in a lot of situations. The jump is also more useful in a lot of situations.
Reinhardt is a meme character (that I like) for stomping pubs, Winston is a tanks for using against teams who know what they're doing.
Also keep in mind that he just got nerfed.
>>336651683
You really expect me to believe valve doesn't take a cut of every item sale?
>>336649226
>fly away
>get distance
>shoot
not hard
>its high noon
>everyone who was unlucky enough to be in his camera is dead
Why did they put this stupid DOTA ultimate shit in an FPS
>>336651445
CSGO has a higher tickrate than overwatch you blizzdrone
>>336646141
>Battleborn
>Implying anyone will play it.
>>336645564
The game is solid, I played the beta and had fun, I'll pick it up when it's $20
>>336645564
I was done playing tf2 5 years ago
How the fuck do I play Genji?
I mean, I want to learn how to play as him, he looks cool and all, but I found his shuriken does fuck all for damage on either mode and I just end up being shat on.
plz help
>>336651730
She has tons of mobility and her ult is free kills with a free full heal.
>>336645564
stop shilling this piece of shit
>>336651757
>Boost was on CD
reading's not hard either
>>336650550
I hope you're using Symmetria as an example of a character who blatantly outclasses everybody else.
20 tick rate
super casual, more casual than tf2
i win "ultimate mode"
appealing to all normies by being generic and safe
>>336651732
Winstons bubble is trash. It breaks if the enemy team even looks in it's direction. Honestly, there is nothing good about Winston, everything he does, Reinhardt does better (and so do plenty of other characters).
>>336651710
Wait... HotS characters are copies of LoL characters? Folks know that LoL is a copy of the original DotA mod for WC3, right?
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
The porn is pretty good.
literally no reason to keep playing other than your epenis or your friends. There is literally nothing to really play for because the game isn't fun and it's rewards are usually randomized.
>>336650709
>Your entire post is contradictory.
>Here's one thing I didn't like about your post.
You're a fucking idiot.
My point is that the game could only be improved by MOBA aspects, since it's pretty dull just running from point to point with no action.
>>336651683
They take a 30% cut of EVERYTHING on steam.
Saying they're benevolent is like saying Penguin is benevolent for publishing someone's book.
I'm not shitting on Valve, in fact I like them a lot, but don't act like they're doing something they're not.
>>336651795
>blizzard
>putting their games on sale
this is a company that had vanilla Diablo 2 without LoD for sale digitally for 20 dollars, LoD being another 20
>play Pharah
>use ultimate
>before its even begun casting I'm dead because it pins me in place and makes me an easy target
E P I C
P
I
C
>>336651849
got me anon, sorry, been a long day.
well uhhh
pop out and shoot her
Dva pistol is solid as fuck
>>336651760
>hear high noon
>have no fucking idea where he is because the position audio is garbage at best
>die
>>336651864
>everything he does, Reinhardt does better (and so do plenty of other characters).
This just shows you haven't seen someone who's played him well or done so yourself.
>Winstons bubble is trash.
Again, just got nerfed.
>>336651710
The characters are limited.
The weapons they have aren't varied enough.
Talents offer choice.
It is true.
My points are that this game fails to offer individuality and varied gameplay, very valid complaints, dumb ass.
>>336651361
the IQ of these 3 combined > total IQ of Overwatch players online.
what a day to be alive, mobile games feel more polished than this pile of shit
>>336651813
Steal kills. That is pretty much the only time you'll ever get a kill as Genji.
Also if the enemy is dumb, use his Deflect to bait people into shooting you. 99% of the time this'll do nothing much, but that 1% of the time you might get a kill.
Just hope the enemy isn't smart enough to take someone who has attacks you can't deflect, otherwise it's suicide to even try.
Honestly, just repick him. I've yet to figure out how to make him work. Just seems weak all round and others do his job a lot better.
>>336651942
tfw my walmart still sells the boxed version of diablo 2 for $20
blizzard is like nintendo with never putting things on sale
>>336651989
>People complain about "press Q to win"
>Same people complain win they find out pressing Q doesn't actually mean you win
LIKE FUCKING POTTERY
>>336652065
>This just shows you haven't seen someone who's played him well or done so yourself.
If someone can do well with Winston, they could do a whole lot better with another character. Player skill does not equate to how good or useful a character is.
>play game for 3 hours
>already want to fuck the shit out of Mercy
Great I'm in love with another girl that doesn't exist
THANKS VIDEO GAMES
Anyone have that picture of the female cast with part of their cloth details removed? It compares their butts and shows off how Mercy's actually stealth packin' a fat booty.
>>336651258
The original point was that tf2 classes and quake 3 could be figured out as fast as overwatch characters, yet I'm being retarded?
>>336651564
>Shoot
>Blink to flank or escape
>Rewind if hurt
>Ult around cart
Done
>>336651710
>TDM in class based shooters is hot garbage
this game isn't nearly as class heavy as those games
What's the possibility they end up adding a second weapon to some characters in a few updates? Or some more characters even.
Things are really boring as they are. I get that the point of the game is changing characters on the fly to accomodate the match situation, but so far everyone feels so straightfoward, no dept at all.
>>336648994
>It's kind of dumb how some characters seem to have shoot
What's dumb is comparing numbers instead of function and utitlity
>aimbot ults
>wallhacks
>1 hit kill abilities
dead on arrival, nobody is going to spend money on this trash.
>>336651730
Shes one of the best flankers in the game. Don't play her like a tank like the game retardedly suggests and use her speed boost to fly around and on top of buildings to get the drop on people.
