http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-canonical-bring-ubuntu-linux-on-windows-10/
>According to a new report from ZDNet, Microsoft is likely to announce a partnership between Canonical and Microsoft that would aim to bring Ubuntu on Windows 10.
>This functionality won’t be limited to running Bash shell on Windows 10. With this development, users will be able to run Ubuntu simultaneously with Windows operating system. This will be making Ubuntu an integrated part of Windows 10, not just some virtual machine.
WHERE WHERE YOU WHEN THE YEAR OF LINUX GAMING HAPPENED
Stallman is flipping his shit right now
But yeah, this just looks like a reverse wine.. eh, whatever, knowing MS it'll be halfassed and is barely gonna work anyway
>simultaneously
So you could use Ubuntu and being spied by Win 10 at the same time?
>>332520140
But this means Microsoft wins, and Linux loses.
Instead of it being an operating system, it becomes yet another app in Microsoft Windows's large library of bloatware and shovelware.
If I were a Linux drone I'd be losing my shit after this announcement.
>2014
THE YEAR OF LINUX GAMING
>2015
THE YEAR OF LINUX GAMING
>2016
WE'RE SERIOUS THIS TIME GUYS
nah fuck off
literally no one on /v/ cares.
this is a place of video games, and linux is on par with OS X with games.
if you want to surprise us, post a link showing that win7 will continue to be updated all the way till 2040.
>Ubuntu
Isn't this shit Amazon Spyware
>Operating system is coming to Operating System
>>332520906
>ubuntu
>Operating system
I forgot /v/ is retarded.
>>332520140
>Ubuntu on Windows
Wut? That doesn't make any sense.
>>332520989
Its like installing it in a VM.
>>332520979
It literally is an operating system in the Linux family.
Is this bad or good for linux?
generally speaking
>>332521137
Its a Debian based Distro, built on a Linux Kernel which is used with the GNU operating System.
>>332521316
or to everyone other than Richard Stallman, a Linux OS.
>>332521316
you stupid fuck, a distro is an OS
>>332521316
What a nerd.
>>332521141
of course its bad
now the typical winwang 10 user will think its just another freaking app
>>332521316
I bet you wonder why people don't like Linuxfags.
>>332520140
So basically a reverse wine?
If anything it sounds like a big fuck you from Microsoft to the fedora penguins.
>>332521426
To everyone other than Richard Stallman its a Linux Distro. To Stallman its a GNU/Linux Distro. Stallman gets uppity over semantics but he's not wrong.
>>332521618
A Distro is a different version of a GNU/Linux OS yes. Its still better to call it a Distro though.
>>332521642
I try.
>>332521909
Scary command lines and user interfaces designed for programmers and not for users. Its been getting better though.
>>332522039
calm your autism nerd
>>332522182
No
>>332521938
>So basically a reverse wine?
That already exists, it's called POSIX for Windows.
This just sounds to me like all Microsoft has done is reintroduced POSIX support back into Windows. I don't think it's going to matter much to the home user. It's not a "big fuck you" at all.
why is linux even a thing anymore? nobody fucking uses it except turbovirgins clinging on to a late 90s fad.
>>332522581
Because running a server on Windows is a retarded idea.
>>332522581
Sorry, forgot to use my name.
>this mattering
>when cygwin exists
I honestly don't even know what they're trying to do right now. 7+Cygwin, Xubuntu dual boot master race.
EMBRACE
EXTEND
EXTINGUISH
>ubuntu for windows
Does that mean that I can be spyed on by both Amazon and Microsoft?
Great.
>Ubuntu
And nothing of value was lost.
Sorry, I'm not seeing the reason why anyone would want to do this. What are the benefits? Also isn't Ubuntu under that open license agreement meaning they can't sell the OS? Pls enlighten
So how exactly does this affect me if all I do with my PC is play vidya?
>>332520979
>>332523203
Your vidya will run worse because M$ keeps adding bloat and shit to your already kusoge OS.
>>332520140
Even retards like myself can multiboot
Why is this exciting
>>332520979
This is the part where you say "I was only pretending to be retarded".
>>332523294
fugg.jpg
>>332520847
No, the Unity desktop is Amazon Spyware. If you use Xubtunu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, or just use something other than Unity you're fine, also last I checked you can also just disable the spyware in Unity.
>>332520140
What is the point of this.
Also, Microsoft commercialising another, free, open source OS is not a good thing at all.
They really, REALLY love making themselves the bad guy don't they?
>>332523041
They can sell the Distro, but nothing's stopping someone else from removing the Botnet and selling the nonbotnet version themselves under a different name.
GPL deals with freedom to modify and redistribute, not monetary gain.
>>332523228
>Canonical says it so it must be true!
They're just simplifying it for braindead retards, it's still more correctly a Linux Distro.
>>332523409
>A Linux distribution
>>332523041
M$ just wants to piss off neckbeards
>>332520535
this
what do?
if a nigga was serious about playing video games why would he even concider building a linux?
>>332520140
wait what?
Post yfw 2016 really is the year of Linux on the Desktop
>>332520140
>Ubuntu
>literally the most bloated and useless distro in the world
>>332523498
Ah, thus the co-existence of Red Hat and CentOS, yeah?
Still not seeing the why though.
>>332523498
>A Linux distribution (often called a distro for short) is an operating system made from a software collection, which is based upon the Linux kernel and, often, a package management system.
if you're going to be pedantic then at least be right or it makes you look like a dick and an idiot
>>332522581
It's a better computing tool and less intrusive than anything else. it's stable, secure, infinitely customizable, and easily and reliably (and securely) remote-accessible
being on /v/ I wouldn't expect you to understand
>>332523498
Or you're just wrong.
Pic related it's your distro of choice
>>332523228
>cloud
Doubling down on Azure, I see. Trying to make Windows Server more appealing, I see
>mfw mint is the fastest distribution for non-graphics oriented work
>mfw it uses g/gcc 4.9
why god
>>332523740
Say you want to make a program like MSpaint except with Onion Skinning to make animating easier
Instead of building it from scratch you can look for a Paint-like software under GPL and modify it yourself. You can then decide whether you want to distribute it for a janitors wage or actual money, but it has to be under GPL since the original software is under GPL.
>>332520825
>>2040
kekked a bit
>>332520535
why do you think this suddenly happened.
unbuntu probably gets a cut.
>>332524056
What does that mean?
>>332524178
older compiler versions that make it harder to keep updated on some software (notably dolphin) and some programming shit (no good regex support in C/C++)
>lel, obvious april fools
>check it
>check another source
>check thrice and it's real
Wow, this is really happening.
The ointment sales will rise in 400% from all the hipsters "wanna-be-special-nerd-hacker" buttblast.
>>332524397
why would that happen? Using Windows in conjunction with a Linux distro defeats half the purpose of using Linux altogether
>>332524354
If you need a newer one then install a newer one.
>>332524397
april fools is great you can announce any future plan just to test the waters.
>>332523770
>I get my definitions from Wikipedia, the most reputable source of information
>>332523885
I've never used a Redhat based Distro actually.
>>332524078
But why not just do that on a full blown linux install? Why does m Microsoft feel the need to be involved.
No, I know why they feel the need. Better question: Why would they think anyone wants this as opposed to just doing all that shit in straight up linux is my question. Where's the benefit?
>>332524669
As opposed to
>I get my definitions from my arse
>>332520140
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOCK CPU'S TO WINDOWS 10+ BECAUSE OF LINUX FOR SERVERS /g/ SAID
WHERE'S YOUR /g/OD NOW FAGGOTS
so is there a release date or is it just one of those canon annoucements that are never really done
>>332524571
and recompile so much important stuff that my system would probably never work as smoothly again? 5.1+ gcc isn't compatible with 4.x-compiled programs
A question, I don't really pay attention to all of Linux type of news. And I know about the numerous OS's that are out there.
>If one program (a game so to speak) works on Ubuntu, would it work on, say, elementaryOS? Linux mint, Zorion?, Kubuntu, etc.
>>332523885
fedora is the best distro
What did he mean by this?
>>332524528
Because 99% Lunix users use and praise it only because they think they are a special snowflake "1337 |-|4K3R".
>>332524978
Yes, but it'll be probably be packaged differently.
>>332524978
depends, but the overwhelming majority of the time, yes
>>332525096
someone post the copyasta
>>332524927
You're retarded. They'll still be running Linux exclusively. No server needs the overhead of two operating systems.
>>332525096
Don't listen, he's a berniefag.
What did he mean by this though?
>>332524960
Ugh.
This sort of shit is why I don't use Linux anymore. Everyone goes on about how stable, secure, fast, customizable, etc., etc. it is but they always forget to mention how goddamn fragile the whole thing is too.
>>332525559
>cucks people
based as fuck
>>332525267
Then you won't get new CPU'S, fa/gg/ot.
>>332525975
Hows that? It's rugged as fuck: try keeping a windows box on for 30 days, then a Linux box and see what's more fragile.
If you're using a memeOS like Arch or something it's fragile sure, but otherwise "fragile" is not a word I'd use to describe it. Sure when you shoot yourself using bash it's usually in the head, but as long as you recognize your own technical level it shouldn't be a problem
>>332526453
I don't think you understand what you're saying
because it's fucking retarded
>>332520541
Ubuntu doesn't consider itself Linux tbqh.
>The system that builds windows is a bunch of 30 year old perl scripts from the 1990s. No one knows what they do. They have tried to replace this build system 4 times. The most recent attempt happened while I was working there and was called "Apex". It worked great, solved all the problems, and was totally fantastic, except that it couldn't compile windows. No one could figure out how to get windows to compile on it. This is because no one knows how to compile windows. They eventually shelved Apex because no one could decipher what the flying fuck was going on with the perl scripts.
>They still use the perl scripts.
>>332526549
Google it, retard. Oh, I'm sorry, askjeeves it, freetard.
>>332526575
Fuck this is part 1
>>332526704
>microcucks
>>332522817
It seems there's a clusterfuck at Microcuck HQ. I don't think even they know what the fuck they're doing anymore. I mean, it appears they're going with their "embrace, extend and extinguish" policy, but their moves are sloppy as fuck recently. Someone pulled the rug under their feet and now they're trying to grab onto whatever they can.
>>332526675
that's for Windows only you fucking retard. It's not like the CPUs will only work on windows operating systems
People still use Ubuntu?
>>332526464
>try keeping a windows box on for 30 days, then a Linux box and see what's more fragile.
I don't mean fragile as in it can't keep going once it's running, I mean fragile as in it's very tenuously held together. Even small changes that you would think are relatively inconsequential can nuke an installation.
And honestly, most of that stems from the community. There are so many incompatibility issues that exist solely because of small minded pettiness and an inability to co-operate.
If I was setting up a server or something I would run Linux without a second thought but for a personal use workstation that I'm always fucking around with, never again.
>>332526675
Did you literally read some tabloid headline like "New CPUs W10 exclusive!" and believed it?
Yeah, shows how much you know about computers.
I haven't used windows in over a decade
Pic related is my current portable shit posting machine
ask me anything faggots
>>332527317
I stopped using it once they replaced Gnome 2 with that clusterfuck netbook shit.
I can't think of a single reason for this. I dual boot ubuntu mate with Windows 10 on my laptop and I'd never in a million years do this. I use Linux because it's lightweight, it's fast, and gives me total control over my system. This would do the opposite: make my system bloated, slow, and give me nothing but a second desktop environment. Why the fuck is this happening?
>>332520140
>shitty proprietary software teaming up with even shittier proprietary software
>>332520140
Fucking finally!!! 20 years I've been waiting for windows to have have good shell
>>332527540
kde is too bloated
![s03e13_the_family_that_slays_together_stays_together_2.mkv_snapshot_13.58_[2016.03.22_15.31.36].png](https://i.imgur.com/PzlpTkv.png "s03e13_the_family_that_slays_together_stays_together_2.mkv_snapshot_13.58_[2016.03.22_15.31.36].png")
>>332527540
Where are the video games?
>>332527540
Why do you use KDE?
>>332521316
That means its an operating system
Fuck off back to /g/ where you belong retard.
>>332527692
I swear, one of these days faggots on /g/ will call a black screen with a command line bloated.
>linux
>gaming
>>332527738
It's better than gnome and now that plasma 5 is stable it's objectively the best DE
>>332527726
On a console.
PC gaming is a joke.
>>332522581
Linux is literally everywhere except on desktop computers.
>>332527803
>needing a command line
>>332527726
This is a weak ass thinkpad X201. All of the gaming I do on here is through retroarch and VNs in wine.
I also keep a windows XP VM for those novels that need patching software/flat out don't work with wine like starless
>>332527870
To me it looks bloated and unintuitive as shit. Why do you think it's better than gnome? Gnome is too slow for me but in functionality it beats out everything
>>332527870
It's KDE5 already?
Has the KDE4 shitstorm finally blown over?
>>332528017
>To me it looks bloated and unintuitive as shit.
>>332527894
Top fucking kek
I'm only glad that a fucking package manager is coming to windows. But even then it's more than 10 fucking years too late.
>>332528086
Seriously though. I hate the KDE task bar. I hate the KDE applications. Kwin is pretty good but that's basically it. How is KDE with performance compared to other DEs you've tried? How is it compared to MATE or XFCE? what about it do you actually prefer?
>>332528020
Yes
>>332528017
There's a minimal install of the plasma-desktop you can use without the KDE bloat. Just make sure you install the programs that you need like dolphin etc
>>332520906
>>332528230
Plasma 5 ran fast on my fucking t61 with a 2nd gen core2duo. That's with all the animations on and at the normal speed
If you're using an even slower shitbox you can disable animations all together
>>332528180
I don't know how this shit is gonna work but there's no way they can expand apt to work on windows.
More than likely the ubuntu thing is going to be a self contained window that can access your windows files.
>>332525252
>252525252525252525252
>>332528349
Ok, but why do you prefer it?
>even linux is now just an "app"
I used to be an Ubuntrump but after that I can safely say that what our country needs is a revolution, therefore I now feel the Win
>>332528448
Doesn't apt just download the sourcecode and run it through the internal linux compiler to make binaries?
>>332528448
i.e. nothing more than Windows running a VM for you.
>>332528669
A package manager is much more complex than that.
And no, generally what apt does is download a binary, resolve it's dependencies then installs it to /bin or whatever other folder your setup has
>>332528180
Chocolaty
It's garbage but it works
>>332528757
Welp.
Another useless feature coming to windows
THANKS MICROSOFT.
>>332528591
It's prettier, more configurable and behaves to your liking.
It's basically XFCE with an actual compositor and a more modern design.
Meanwhile with GNOME you're stuck with what the devs want your desktop to look and feel like, and the gnome devs are fucking buffoons
>>332528230
Dude, the taskbar in that screenshot literally looks like any taskbar ever, including XFCE and MATE taskbars. Only reason you think it's "bloated and unintuitive as shit" is because you were conditioned by memes. KDE5/Plasma 5 had a rough start but it got much better over time. Only bloated thing about it is stupid amounts of customization options by default compared to Gnome which now starts with a small amounts of options and you just add a shitload of plugins for things you want.
>>332527870
>best DE
>not Cinnamon/MATE
end ur life my man
>>332529116
>Cinnamon
The "I just want Windows but I'm too contrarian for the real thing" starter pack.
>>332528892
Honestly if you use windows you're an idiot.
GPU pass through exists.
On my desktop I keep a Windows 7 QEMU image with the networking disabled for games and it works like it would natively.
Here's another setup I had with gnome.
Looks kinda decent but I hate using it.
>>332529116
MATE is fine but cinnamon is just gnome
>>332528828
Does it let me download libraries for development on the fly?
>>332529273
>GPU passthrough
Sounds buzzwordy.
Tell me more.
>installing an OS on your OS
some nerd please explain what the FUCK does this actually mean
>>332529404
It's a complicated voodoo ritual that lets you use all of your GPU's capabilities in a virtual machine.
>>332529273
I forgot to mention that actual software support is much better on windows than it is on linux.
That's the only thing keeping me on it.
>>332529596
I don't even play video games that require GPU.
>>332529273
MATE is literally gnome too
>arch
>>332529267
More like the "I don't want a bloated/heavy DE but I do want it to be able, powerful and look nice" starter pack
>mfw KDE
>>332526352
>wrong smell too
>WHERE WHERE YOU WHEN THE YEAR OF LINUX* GAMING HAPPENED
>*THROUGH WINDOWS
Gee what a revolution OP.
>>332529767
MATE is GNOME before GNOME was shit
>>332529767
I have debian on my server, Slackware on the family computer and Arch on my desktops and laptops
Got a problem?
>>332529428
sounds like they're doing something akin to Wine for Ubuntu
if this means I can have Linux's dev environment on Windows without booting a virtual machine then I'm all for it
>>332529875
>tfw I actually have a 3rd nipple
Why am I even alive?
>>332529404
>Sounds buzzwordy.
It's not. You need 2 GPUs. Having a dedicated GPU and CPU with an intergrated GPU is good enough. You get the integrated GPU to handle normal graphics, like your desktop and shit and you pass the dedicated GPU through to a VM running Windows. It's a slight performance hit of course, but it's a near native experience.
How many linux users does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>332530149
Which GPU do you plug your monitor into?
>>332530230
How many?
>>332529992
>Linux's dev environment
A notepad tied to compiler?
Windows already has that.
>>332530149
What it work for those of us withoptimus
>>332530427
well, getting a C++ compiler to run on a clean linux installation is a matter of two commands, maybe zero if your distro already made it available to you
getting GCC to run on windows is another matter entirely
the package manager environment in general makes linux a lot more comfortable to set up than windows. I use windows for my daily stuff but to hack up a quick thing on node or something I usually just fire up a VM. I don't know if it's because I'm used to it or what, but I feel I get shit done a lot faster
does that mean that ubuntu is going to get directx?
embrace
extend
extinguish
rip in pepperoni loonix
>>332530650
Would it work*
Fuck, I need sleep.
>>332530279
You either need 2 monitors or replug from iGPU to dedicated GPU or plug them both into the same monitor and change between using monitor controls. Don't think that changed recently.
And to be technical, the method isn't really GPU passthrough, it's PCIE passthrough. You can pass any hardware connected to PCIE but not in use by host OS to the guest OS.
>He doesn't use TempleOS
Hello CIA niggers!
>>332527870
the only problem I have with KDE is multiple monitor support for laptops. I really like KDE and krunner is my favorite thing about it.
But for my laptop I stick with gnome, since it actually knows when the HDMI is connected or not, and changes the settings accordingly.
I also had some problems changing the audio port with HDMI too.
Until these problems are fixed, I'm sticking with gnome for my laptop. When I build my workstation I will surely use KDE.
>>332529956
yes actually, debian is the only distro you're running that isn't trash, and you're using it on a server
>>332530427
And what about checking for memory leaks, finding dynamically linked libraries, easily compiling large projects with loads of different flags, using a specific version of libstdc, getting psuedo-assembly compiled directly from your source code, and tons of other shit that programmers actually need?
>>332521105
But the article says it doesn't run in a VM.
So what's the fucking point of this?
If i can use linux, why would i install windows?
If i already have the spyware that lis windows 10, why would i get linux on top of it?
>>332530889
Debian is a sever OS you fucking retard
I highly doubt you know anything about computers other than following a guide to put together your gayming rig and pressing next on a windows installer anyway.
Fuck off
>>332530962
if you're not a dev, you don't care
i don't even know why OP posted this on /v/ of all places. this isn't gonna get more games on linux
>>332523441
I use unity for games. How can I disable the spyware?
>>332530650
>>332530719
I'm not sure, never had much experience with optimus and as far as I know, optimus is a clusterfuck on Linux by default. This is just a guess, but it should if none of the optimus crap is on and the VM is able to detect the second GPU. Monitor switching might be a problem though. You're better off searching online yourself, I'm no expert on this. There's a lot of resources on
>>332531023
Way to prove that you have a severe lack of reading comprehension, or did you just sperg so hard that you didn't even look at what I posted afterwards?
>Debian is a server OS
What the fuck? Says who? Not that it isn't fine for servers, but there are better distros. It's a good PC OS, loads better than fucking Arch and slackware rofl
>>332530962
I think they're trying to short circuit the advise people are giving now that if they have to run Windows 10 they should do it on a GNU/Linux based host OS. Counting on people to not understand the reason for it (ensuring firewall security), but instead making them think "Why would I do that when I can run Linux apps on Windows if I really want to?"
Don't give Windows direct access to network hardware.
>Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
>Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard.
>Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.
>The City of linux
>>332531459
>Having years old software and libs in the repos
>Good desktop OS
No you clearly have no clue what you're taking about
Why would you want to use an OS on top of an OS? That's like double overhead, unless the Windows kernel actually yields completey to Ubuntu when it's running.
>>332532162
For someone who uses Arch you're much less adept (or clever) than I would have thought. But hey, that's Arch users for you. They can configure their OS following a guide but wouldn't know what the fuck to do if they had to do anything outside of it
Of course their official repos are old, it's fucking debian
>>332520541
Is it me or does that thumbnail look like two girls
>>332532940
Again, you have no clue what you're taking about
Fuck off
Can anyone explain to a dumb layman like me what are the implications of this partnership to gaming?
>>332533515
Nothing for gamers really. Maybe some implications for SteamOS? Fewer games there?
>linux
>gaming
lolsmhtbqhfam
>>332533242
Good argument man, sure convinced me
Fucking child. Remind yourself when you get a career (if you ever do [big if I know]) and stop using shit like Arch and Slackware and Debian on servers of how stupid you were for me, will ya? thanks.
>PLAYING GAMES
>ON LINUX
its like 1 neckbeard is not enough for you
>>332533642
I have more degrees than your entire family put together and use Linux as my main OS.I work a professional job that isn't a code monkey.
Not to mention I play more vidya than you
Maybe you can stop being so salty
>>332533565
That would be more of the point of Microsoft's UWP making games harder to bring to other platforms.
This seems more like an attempt on Microsoft's part to avoid losing sysadmins and software devs systems in business environments. It will be harder to sell upper management on Linux systems if Microsoft convinces them that "Windows 10 can run that Linux thing".
>>332533642
>>332533952
>freetards
>not using fedora
>>332520535
Ubuntu already spies on you through Amazon.
>>332522581
Servers you fag
>>332531163
you may be confusing Unity the desktop with Unity the engine.
>>332534275
Only Ubuntu Unity and even then its only built into the desktop itself so its trivially easy to disable, or bypass by using a better desktop.
Unlike Windows 10 where the spyware has kernel level elements that cannot be disabled by any user space setting.
>>332520541
shitty bagel, you need new york water bagels
cinnamon and raisin with shitloads of butter is the best way to go, don't overcomplicate
>>332520906
Yes, and?
>>332520140
What is the point of this? What benefit will I get? Or is this the same end as if I just downloaded a skin for my os to make it look different?
>>332534363
Yeah fuck. You got me.
>>332534697
I'm asking myself the same.
So we get a bogged-down version of ubuntu that runs slower because it's simultaneous, gains no benefits to ubuntu but introduces security/tracking shit from w10? sounds absolutely fantastic
I'm genuinely curious, how do Windows developers cope with not having grep/find/stream editor and all the essential UNIX tools easily available in a command line? Are there replacements for these tools in cmd?
>>332535064
Cygwin
>>332535064
cmd is fucking weak.
>>332535162
so the answer is "emulate unix"
I doubt they do this in the big industry, so I guess they get by without it?
>>332535193
PowerShell is not that bad, imho.
>>332525096
>encouraging underwater rapists
FIRST OF APRIL YOU MONGS
>>332533642
>has "career"
>uses linux
>on /v/
basement dweller autist
>>332533952
>has "degrees"
>has "professional career"
>has family computer (?)
>uses Linux
>on /v/
basement dweller autist
>>332533952
>plays vidya
>on linux
>>332520140
>BASH on Windows
>Utilities like Make on Windows
>Proper implementation of dependency trees and package manager on Windows
>Can into games on top of all that.
I'm creaming myself right now.
>>332535996
I do
Problem?
>tfw you cowsay in windows for the first time
>>332535996
Somebody has to do it. Desktop Windows has less than 4 years of life left to it. The industry can't turn on a dime, you're not going to wake up in 2020 to find that suddenly all your games are available outside of Windows if we don't start now.
>>332536079
Windows is the future. Come with me, anon.
>>332536464
This is like one of those demons that looks like an angel, like in the bible, isn't it?
>>332525252
>2525252
>>332536079
>Overhead of two separate operating systems
I'm creaming myself right now
>>332536264
*tips fedora
>>332536412
why would desktop windows be done by 2020?
>>332520140
Why?
>>332536559
Na, it's just an angel showing you the way.
>>332536559
Nigga, you don't know shit. Angels in the bible are more like eldritch abominations.
>>332520446
If you have any thread of decentcy left despite being on 4chan, you will give me the link!
amazon, microshit, google, valve ; they're going to be the companies to destroy us all in the future
I don't understand why they would do this, windows already has all software linux has and more.
>>332537312
microsoft wants to eliminate as much competition as possible, more software or not
>>332537421
everything together running linux on desktop is below 1% of os market share
amount of linux cucks and whiners doesnt mean there are a lot of disgruntled users
What the fuck? Why?
>>332537848
While dominating most other fields in IT
I'd just like to interject for a little while. What you're referring to as Windows,
is in fact, GNU/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows.
Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning NSA system made useful by the NSA spyware, malware
and vital botnet components comprising a full OS.
Many computer users run a modified version of the NSA system every day,
without ever realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NSA
which is widely used today is often called "Windows 10", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the NSA botnet, developed by the NSA Project.
There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is
normally used in combination with the NSA botnet: the whole system
is basically NSA with Windows added, or NSA/Windows. All the so-called "Windows"
distributions are really distributions of NSA/Windows.
>>332537312
>>332537421
>>332537848
it's aimed at developers
it has nothing to do with linux for anyone else but people who use it for development. it's useless for anything else
OK, this actually makes sense.
the workflow of constantly having to reboot an OS just to test the a little change in the code is infuriating.
>>332521141
I guess if you were developing a virus targeted for windows you could write it in bash now. So maybe bad
>>332520140
>it's cygwin
>but you don't need to recompile
>which isn't an issue anyways because it's open source and cygwin has a package manager with binaries compiled for cygwin
Linux sysadmin here, Canonical is trolling for press. Nothing truly new or impressive has happened here.
>>332539580
CHECK IT OUT GUYS, I'M IN THE FUTURE.
nice videogames
>>>/g/
>>332538128
yet all the files you download to get your Linux up-to-date come from the same servers of any NSA/Windows stuff
Microshit trying so hard that people use their OS. Good luck with that, when W7 support is canceled I cancel PC gaming. Not going to deal with this shit.
>>332525252
ch-checked?
>>332539706
whatchu making that has hell knights in it
>>332541073
>for-profit private organization attempting to sell products
HOW DARE THEY
>>332542243
it's not my mod, I just play/test the git builds. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48985
this is the most retarded thing i've heard all year for a myriad of reasons
>>332522581
Everything runs Linux except consumer PCs (desktops/laptops). Even Android is a fork of Linux in a way.
You dont know shit.
>>332541073
Why do you care if gaming is only thing you do on your PC? Win10 hate has nothing to do with gaming.
>>332521316
Thank you for the clarification, Dr. Assburger.
>>332541073
You know you can still play PC games on platforms other than Windows right? Once Win32 is dead then Wine can take the same role as DOSbox to run legacy Windows software even on Windows.
That is if Microsoft still allows running arbitrary non-UWP software on Windows.
>>332543663
>Wine can take the same role
gonna take time tho
takes a lot of work from people who dont get paid for it
>>332543748
I dunno famalam, I've been positively surprised by Wine game compatibility lately. It's quite good.
>>332543748
Wine development is backed by Codeweavers. It already runs everything up to DX9 well, especially if you have an AMD card with a version of Wine using Gallium Nine. In 3-4 years when Windows 7 is dead it will almost certainly support up to DX11.
DX12/UWP on the other hand would require a new compatibility layer and may not really be possible since games would have to be obtained through the Windows Store.
>>332544027
i hope so but i cant really believe it before i see it
>>332544270
There's already initial support for DX11 though it only runs a few simple games. I think the hope right now is that developers shift to using Vulkan as it corrects all the mistakes of both D3D11 and D3D12 while being so similar to D3D12 that if you need D3D12 support for UWP/Xbox that its basically painless to support Vulkan anyway.
Can't you already do this? I remember seeing something about a streamlined background VM that blends with the current OS and you can use both at the same time.
Anyone know what the fuck I'm referring to? I can't find the name.
>>332545531
This isn't like that, its not a VM or rather not any more of a VM than any Windows 10 app. This is a Linux compatibility layer similar to Cygwin packaged in their UWP crap.
