So when does Dark Souls get hard?
>first playthrough (literally, like I haven't stopped playing from the start)
>few hours
>at the area where the ground poisons you (BLighttown I think)
>rekt the capra first try
>rekt the gargoyles third try
>rekt this wierd green moth thing first try
>rekt all the sub bosses first try
>rekt this wierd lizard/centipede thing in the Undead place (looks like some Lovecraftian shit)
>still using longsword buffed to +5
>in wanderer gear
When did /v/ get so casual?
>>321329046
>literally 3 dark souls 1 threads
Um, I'm a bit new but why is this allowed?
>>321329046
Oh anon you are so tough XDD
dark souls isn't really hard, it just has that reputation because you can lose stuff when you die, most games don't do that anymore
>>321329046
I dunno anon but your so hardcore maybe you should post some more of your achievements
>>321329046
>>rekt this wierd lizard/centipede thing in the Undead place (looks like some Lovecraftian shit)
don't know what you're talking about here. gaping dragon?
Never, it only gets annoying.
>>321331813
You don't even lose shit. You lose souls which are easy as fuck to get and you can even get them back.
>>321331959
Yes, the gaping dragon
>>321329046
Dark Souls isn't punishingly difficult - it's just harder than the average game in 2015. If you keep dying at a single point then you're doing something wrong and need to figure out what the game is trying to tell you.
report back when you get to O&S
>>321329046
>rekt
Boy, you'll fight right into the circleshitting crowd over at /dsg/.
>>321329046
>o when does Dark Souls get hard?
It is hard. Name more difficult action RPG released for long time on default difficulty.
>>321329046
You're playing a bit above average. Depending on the build some people have a bit more trouble than others. After my second playthrough I could steamroll the Gargoyles in under 20 seconds.
Also the longsword swings fast so you can crank out a lot of dps.
>>321332275
Dark Souls doesn't have difficulties so that point is moot and Dragons Dogma/Mass Effect 2 on insanity/Oblivion (maxed out difficulty from the start)
>>321332441
>You're playing a bit above average
He's playing better than most playthroughs i've seen. I got rekt by the capra/gargoyles.
>>321332528
They are much easier than DaS, especially considering the fact that every death is less punishable and hold your hand much more. Also I don't believe you beat almost every boss in few hours on first try solo.
OP, you're skilled as fuck. Holy shit dude. Nice fucking job.
You're an important person and your life has value.
>>321332894
/thread and saged
>>321332894
>>321329046
>got to blighttown in a couple of hours
waow u must be atleast ur 3rd playthrough if you get there so fast unless you've got the clairvoyance thingy from mass effect or a photographic memory after watching 10 hours of speedrunning, good troll tho you made me answer
>>321332794
Don't believe it, I Don't know how to prove it.
Here's a few of my posts on the general
>>>/vg/126358828
>>>/vg/126345681
>My posts
>>>126345278
>>>126350009
>>>126350068
>>>126350578
>>>126351793
Game is just easy senpai
>>321329046
>few hours
>not exploring at all
>using a walkthrough
hue okay anon
>>321333172
Couple of hours is an overexaggeration. More like 4~
See:
>>321333328
All my posts are there (don't know how to link between boards but Ctrl+F those post numbers to find my posts), I was keeping /dag/ updated on my first run. The times all match up and the dates of the screenshots.
Git gud m8, game is scrub tier
>>321329046
This game rewards exploration a lot. If you explore properly and use the tools given to you, then it won't be hard. If you don't, then it could be hard.
>>321333172
>speedrunning
Impossible since on his way he killed also side bosses. Must be best Dark Souls player ever.
>>321329046
man don't people grow out of this mentality when they are like 12.
You found the game easy, don't be a whiny little bitch about it lmao
>>321333521
>getting this mad
I bet you had to farm to beat the capra
The worst thing that ever happened to this series was the 2hard4u marketing. It attracted all the faggots with something to prove. You're right OP, this game is baby easy, step around the corner and pick up your medal for being so handsome and cool and good at video games.
>>321333328
>there are other of my post when I said so
Now everything is clear. We believe you.
>>321333673
;^D
>>321329046
Congratulations, mate. You fell for the leddit maymays.
>>321332614
Capra just kills until you learn how to use stairs. Gargoyles is just a lame 2v1 fight unless you bring in Solaire.
I know this thread is bait, but i have to sperg about it anyways:
DS was NEVER hard.
It can't be. DS is an RPG. Literally(!), more than most rpgs today, because you your character, his/her motivation/background all depends on you. And like all rpgs you can level up.
Let's say you are stuck at some boss and are not good enough to block/parry/doge its attacks, you can always farm souls or level up your charcater/gear.
That doesn't mean, it's a bad game. For me, DS is my favorite game, just because i love the gameplay and have spend more hours into it than any other game.
I start a new character at least every month and i still love it after 3(4?) years.
But still, it's NOT hard.
The problem is that "gamers" today have never expreienced video games others than CoD or farmville (i know i exeggarate here, but you get what i mean)
Punishing games or games where you ahev to explore and learn are simply not the norm anymore. DS is punishing and you need to spend some time to master it. But video games today are simply too easy, because they need to pander to the lowest common dominator and make money.
on top of it "prepare to die" was just a marketing trick after all cancerous reviwers started ramping about how "hard " this game is.
tl;dr
DS is harder than most games, but the difficulty is not a point why it's so great.
Merry christmas to all of you and your families.
>>321329046
I rekted all enemies without damage using only brokensword and got to Blighttown in less than hour. Game is casual baby tier. Git gud OP.
>>321334219
It is hard. Enemies and bosses can kill you instantly even at high levels and every death is punishable. There is reason why Dark Souls is considered hard.
>>321329046
It was never hard. You can fucking beat the game just by overleveling it the DSP way.
>>321334228
Exactly, OP is fucking terrible at this game and so are you.
I used only my fists first try and didn't even know how to level up.
Got to blighttown in 3 minutes.
Get good OP.
>>321334370
>Enemies and bosses can kill you instantly even at high levels
If they can do it, doesn't mean that they spam that attack constantly. Name me one boss that does that (that is, spamming instant kill attacks) that is not Bed of Chaos with his bullshit pits.
>>321334370
>Enemies and bosses can kill you instantly even at high levels
But that is simply not true.
Even at base HP, bosses usually need t leats 2 attacks to killl you, if you level normally.
If you upgrade a 100% block shield, you can lock almost every attack.
>>321334591
>But that is simply not true.
It is true. They have many attacks that can one shot you.
>>321334559
>that is not Bed of Chaos with his bullshit pits.
While im at it, i want to sperg about BoC too.
>hurr shitty boss, i stop playing at this point
If you know how to do it, Boc is the most easy bss in the game.
Seriously. It's more easy than other bosses, because its attacks are always the same and telegraphed.
I could stream BoC fights and never die. Not bragging, just saying that i hate this meme that the fight is shit.
Jfyi, you can roll through its arm swings.
>>321334559
I dunno about you but Hellkite "dragon" kept doing that flying fire breath at me over and over which was pretty bullshit.
And Ceaseless Discharge while not a hold boss to dodge easily kept spamming his exploding ranged attack with surprisingly stupidly fluctuating radius on it.
Quelaag also kept spamming her aoe thing for me but that one is super simple to not get hit by so whatever.When she tucks her legs in back the fuck away.
I've also had Ornstein spam his buttslam attack once he ascends.
>>321334960
not a hard boss*
>>321334960
Even Sif can take whole bar with his spinning combo
>TFW almost no one here played DmC 3 on Dante Must Die
>>321334841
>hey have many attacks that can one shot you.
What bosses? Serious question.
I only remember ceaseless and the O&S super buttslam and even that one won't kill you at level 40-50
>>321329046
Oh god, you're such a desperate attention whore. This is why nobody talks to you.
>>321329046
It doesn't. People just got too used to the constant hand holding for the past few years before that game came out so it threw them off when it made them have to figure some things out on their own. If you want hard go play Shinobi on the PS2 and try to gain the largest tate possible on every boss.
it's not hard
everything else is just casual
there are still dozens of NES games which require more skill
>>321335175
Sif, Bed of Chaos, Gaping Dragon, Havel, Hydra, Stray Demon, Seath
>>321329046
Should've played pre nerf patch.
>>321335450
Like?
>>321329046
dude youre amazing wtf you should apply for dark souls nationals
>>321335636
zelda is an example of a game that is harder than dark souls
>>321335738
zelda is casual babby tier.
>>321335491
I have to check that, but most of them are end game or optional bosses and i'm pretty sure they can't 1shot you if you level normally.
Do you know which attacks 1shotted you?
>>321335804
which explains op's post
statement: nes zelda is harder than dark souls
additional information: nes zelda isn't hard
conclusion: dark souls isn't hard
move on
>>321335813
Sif spinning sword attack, Gaping Dragon fly drop, Havel normal attack, Hydra water splash from multiple heads Stray Demon AOE attack, that crystalized Seath attack. I got decent level they just hit me. This is what I call difficult game.
>>321336090
Zelda is casual, Souls is core game.
>>321336260
you were instructed to move on
you failed the task
no wonder you think dark souls is hard
your level of understanding is lower than a toddler
bye
>>321336517
>implying I give a shit about your instuctions
I just pointed obvious fact, if you can't handle yeah, crawl back and cuddle your teddy bear
>>321336136
>Sif spinning sword attac
true, but can be block entirely
>Gaping Dragon fly drop
true
>Havel normal attack
depends on level (this fight is more a test if you can backstab or parry)
>Hydra water splash from multiple heads
depends on level and gear/shield (can be blocked entirely)
>Stray Demon AOE
depends on level
>hat crystalized Seath attack
high humanity makes cursing almost imposssible
Not trying to praise this game, but like i said, if you level normally, you won't get 1shotted ususally. And even if, it's never unfair.
>>321333172
Blighttown isn't really hard to get to quickly if you're just exploring your ass off. I was kind of shocked when I first found it since /v/ made it seem like a late-mid game thing, when it was just at the end of the Depths.
Slightly off topic, but Dark Souls keeps crashing as soon as I load a game with DSFix.
I just got a 970 and really wanna try out DSFix.
Which setting fucks everyone up so I can start troubleshooting this?
>>321330052
Because it's a great game and nobody asked for your input, shitdick.
>>321336872
>Havel
>be fighting this tryhard PvP fag who invaded me in Darkroot
>back into basement door
>forget about Havel
>1-shotted
That fat fucker.
>>321338048
FPS setting, don't set it over 60FPS or it will fuck up.
>>321338408
I unlocked it at set it to 60fps.
>>321338467
That will probably fuck it up too. Just leave the FPS options on default.
>>321338590
But the point of DSFix is to get rid of the 30FPS cap.
>>321338653
And how is that working out for you, pussytits?
>>321338973
Never thought DS was 'hard 9and im FAR from good at the game), challenging sure but thats what makes it all the more enjoyable. Like mentioned if you are dying too hard at a boss you are doing something wrong and need to try a new approach.
Bits of the game which annoyed me not due to 'difficulty' so much as 'cheapness' was the bed of chaos (not even a boss fight, just dying over and over until you know where the pits form) and that bullshit bit in the crystal cave with the invisible bridges. Blighttown also isn't fun but you can always take the shortcut if you dont like it.
>>321335491
Just did a SL1 run
Stray Demon cannot one shot you with any of his attacks.
Havel can't either (and isn't a boss)
Gaping Dragon has the biggest windup in history, the only way it could is if you let it.
>>321334559
stray demon
literally rng the boss, no skill required. you just attack his tail over and over and if he gets too close to a wall you're fucked.
>>321338048
you gotta turn off motion blur and anti aliasing in the dark souls settings
>>321340694
I'm retarded.
The in-game AA was on. Thanks, man.
How do Inotbesofuckingawful
>>321329046
I couldnt beat fucking capra demon at all in my first playthrough fat rolling with my zweihander, started farming firebombs after like 30 attempts and eventually managed to kill him this way... and i had fun the whole time, apperantly much more than you did =)
>>321335175
>>321336136
Capra:while running to stairs, being hit by those fucking dogs + his slammung attack; technically not one shot
Gaping dragon: obvious
O&S: actually impossible to get one shot, with normal sl/vit
Sif: If you have low vit maybe, but probably not
Bed of chaos: obvious
Seath: with those fucking tentacles attack, but most likely not, crystallized attack is so easy to dodge that you really had to go allin fpr it to hit
Havel CAN one-shot you with his 2h attack, while at low lvl/vit
Hydra: not blocking + really unlucky
Stray demon: after you fall and get unlucky and instantly hit yes, but at full health nope, maybe his buttslam but prob not
Artorias:YES, ffs, that triple flip attack, fuck him
Manus:rage attack does did like 80% of my hp, not oneshot
Helkite dragon:sometimes he oneshotted me, idk whether it's case only at low sl
I think thats it, nito, pinwheel etc wont oneshot for sure, most of the oneshots above are conditional, at full hp and after a few fights the only thing that will kill you is your own misplay, like 1 attack too many.
Still, a game where you usually have to die few times before even knowing all of bosses' attacks is what I call hard.
>>321334146
Gargoyles seriously fucks you up if you have the 'wrong' equipment. You can easily get stunlocked and shit on by the other one's flames.
>>321329046
>"rekt gargoyles third try"
If it took you three tries then they rekt you, you quivering pussy.
>>321342286
That was just unlucky but drop the heavy armor.
>>321342286
Roll as soon as you're in there, dogs first, abuse the stairs.
>>321342850
I didn't think that armor was that heavy.
I think I'm in the "medium" roll
>>321339813
>Stray Demon cannot one shot you with any of his attacks.
Yes, it can
>Havel can't
It can too
>>321342286
>Drop some of that fucking armor and get fast roll.
>Dodge the dog and take both on the staircase.
>use shield to bait Capra's jump attack so he falls off the stairs.
>plunge attack and repeat.
And don't do a non-fast roll character till you got a tower shield. In fact, get good at rolling and i-frames because it's the only way to get good. Shields are a crutch that will never let you get decent at pvp.
>>321342286
Would have been fine if you just went for the wall and up the stairs instead of rolling the way you did.
>>321334219
To be fair it is quite a lethal game, you can easily near-instantly lose all your health to one mistake. Doesn't really make the game hard but you can see how it might seem that way. It is tense, knowing you can die in a matter of seconds.
>>321343649
>you can easily near-instantly lose all your health to one mistake
>Doesn't really make the game hard
What is hard game then?
>>321334219
sums it up.
merry xmas to you too
I got bored when I got to the top of the tower filled with rolling boulders. After ringing a couple of bells, if I remember properly.
Might jump back into it some time next year to give it another bash.
Recommended?
>>321329046
Wow Anon good job. I'd like to see this reposted in more threads, too.
>>321333646
thanks for proving my point lmao
>>321332050
Agreed, DS isn't that hard. Yeah you die some, but you are always making progress so it never feels like you wasted a turn. You always learn new things, and get new items and can even get souls back.
i'm curious what weapons and builds the people who say the game isn't hard are using
>>321344851
Someone should make a compilation of anons thinking they are hot shit just because they fell for "LE HARDEST GAME EVAR" meme.
Holy shit, guys I found OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3JhYOI6GSQ
>>321334591
I can get behind this. I did a SL1 and Super Ornstein couldn't kill me in one hit with any attack, it was sloppy but I got the job done.
The only times people have legitimately been oneshot is when they actually got countered by Ornstein, note; it's not the same as parry/riposte, iirc piercing attacks do 20% more damage when they hit during attack animations.
>>321345793
That AoE that the Supers do has oneshot me before.
>>321344156
It has to be obscure and barely known by any "normies" then /v/ can call it hard. If it's at all mainstream or popular then it's automatically casual trash that all of /v/ beat 1 handed with their eyes closed while asleep
>>321345471
>Smough first
Well, I guess you could say he's almost good.
>>321338467
Put it below 60, like 58. Got a hotkey for 30 fps when you need to do longer jumps anyway.
>>321347850
Super Ornstein is the harder one m8.
>>321347997
false
>>321347997
It really isn't.
Stay between his legs and he can't hit you, it's literally impossible to die against Super Ornstein unless you have brain damage.
At least Smough has a really long range AoE that can catch you off guard if you'e not careful.
So what's up with all the Souls game threads lately? Am I missing something?
>>321348285
Hype for DaS 3, maybe?
Who cares? Souls is great.
>>321329046
Dark Souls isn't hard, it's unforgiving. That means you've got the mechanics right and you're not making many mistakes
>>321348335
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.
Souls is great, but had no idea DaS 3 was coming out soon.
>>321334409
To be fair it's actually possible to get to Blighttown in 3 minutes without equipping a weapon. If you don't count Tutorial.
>>321329046
>be me
>get this on sale
>asylum demon
>hit it with broken sword
>no damage at all
>i believe i'm supposed to kill it with this broken sword
>5 hours later I find out there is door leading to sword and shield
>>321349286
>>be me
Fuck right off.
>>321348168
dat ground pound can do some damage though
Heres my problem with games like this where you fight big bosses. You can only attack there legs, and your hits rarely if never stagger them or just there movement. There's no reaction to your attacks other than the health bar drain. Give me Souls atmosphere with Dogna combat please. The bosses arent really dodging or blocking just gonna run as it is programmed to do as close to u as possible. It annoys me but I still play the games. Not saying Souls are the only games guilty of this. Its like any animation that adds depth to the otherwise shallow combat system is useless with most bosses. Just go hit its legs. Am I wrong?
>>321329046
>gloating
sure kid sure.
>>321349656
>>321349542
getting triggered so easily
>>321349734
That wasn't even that much you lazy dropout
