>5 maps at launch
>11 dlc maps
why is this allowed?
Because the DLC is free
>>320537002
>free
you forgot one word, none of that SEASON PASS bs and shit
>>320537002
It was an experiment by Nintendo to gauge player retention when you drip-feed content to them.
I'm not sure if I prefer it to having all the content at launch, but I don't hate it, I guess.
well for one thing all those DLC maps were free
and for another if something has free updates like this, and those updates are required for multiplayer, and that multiplayer is 90% of the game, then complaining about the state of the game at launch today is pointless at best and just looking for any excuse to be mad at worst
Post cute Squids.
>>320537479
The point I hope they don't miss in all of this is that the base game has to be solid for it flourish like it did in Splatoon. The game was so solid and addicting at it's core that it could work with the very limited content at release.
>>320537002
>>320537086
>>320537653
Not even DLC
just updates
>>320538228
Yes actually I fucking hate the phrase DLC or calling stuff in games 'content'.
>>320538369
you want a badge or something?
>>320538551
you want a fucking slap m8?
>>320537002
Because they are free. Meanwhile battlefront is doing the same thing and actually charging money for the maps.
>>320538120
This.
>>320537002
Because everyone was too excited that nintendo thought of something new
>$60 base game with $20 worth of content
>Adds in "free" dlc
Nintendo have really outdone themselves, making players buy a season pass without even realizing it!
>people still salty it sold well
>>320538804
How much time and effort do you think goes into a Battlefront map compared to a Splatoon map? I'm not trying to justify Battlefront's amount of content, but it really isn't the same thing.
>>320539505
You're right. Battlefronts maps are lazy randomly thrown together trash. Really not the same thing when Splatoon has free maps that actually look nice.
>>320539227
>That guy will never eat that bag of dicks and crows.
>>320539505
>generate random lumpy terrain
>insert required buildings
>move things around to have choke points
oh gee so hard
Splatoon's model is more akin to gated content than DLC.
Which has its own set of issues people can complain about, but I personally think its fine, especially since it's given the game longevity.
>>320539905
I'd love to see you try.
>>320537002
They were all free you retard
>>320538228
>content that you download isn't downloadable content
?
>>320540243
Then the game should have been $20 with paid DLC.
>>320538228
no, it's DLC now. Before it was just disc locked content.
>>320538228
It's content you download, retard, it's DLC
>>320539905
Splatoon:
>Drag cuboids
>Paint fill
>>320540228
>>320540228
nigga I was making Duke Nukem 3D maps when I was a kid
>>320542079
Which are even more simplistic than Splatoon maps, what's your point?
>>320542446
fuck you cunt you wann tr y it m8
>>320542580
bring it f.am
>2 million sales and a concert
>>320537086
I dont wanna be negative, but i feel like the near-year long free updates were part of the $60 price tag
aint bitching at all, i liked it.
>>320539058
>making players buy a season pass without even realizing it!
I think you meant to say "buy early access" without even realizing it.
Good thing they provided weekly updates for free instead of monetizing it (I'm looking at you, Heist 2 devs).
>>320540182
maybe the first 3 maps, because they were already on-disc. but everything after that is legit downloadable content that was probably made after the game released
>>320540654
No its not retard, its literally required to download if you want to play online. Its updates to the game, not dlc
>>320544207
but all the content was locked on disc, how can you support nintendo when they artificially extend support?
>>320544079
>concert
>>320544079
bahhaahhaa thats not even half the sales of an average trash indie pc game bhahahahahah
I'm cephalfluid, I can be a kid or a squid if I want to.
>>320544415
>not required to play the game offline
there you go buddy
it's DLC
>>320544529
Not him but those are only physical sales, not digital.
>>320544617
so 10 more sales bwhhahahaha
>>320544532
>play a mutliplayer online game offline
>>320540654
it's just a patch. a DLC implies you get to select what you add through some interface. there's no choice there.
>>320545042
>DLC
downloaded contend
no wonder why you pick the wiiu if you are that retarded
>>320544529
it was 2M in september, before Japan alone reached 1M.
also despite your animal sounds, successful indie games like undertale sells 100-200k it's just huge because all the money goes to one person
>>320544791
see. the problem is that servers run by console makers get shut down, so it has been cut down just by being on a console, now if splatoon was released on the PC it wouldn't happen as you can make your own with voice chat, playable octolings and superior graphics, not to mention having a mouse and keyboard control setup that all fps game are meant to have
>>320545148
So every single patch, bugfix, hotfix for any game is dlc now?
>>320544887
>deflecting and making animal sounds
Jesus
>>320545214
Good thing it's not a FPS then.
>>320545220
technically yes you retarded kek
>>320537086
/thread
>>320545164
thats why is a crap game the anualy cod gets 2-15 times more sales
wbhawhhwahwahhwahhawhhhawha
>>320545214
fps with mouse and keyboard bhwahwahhawhaha this retarded kek
>>320544517
>siliconera.com/2015/12/16/splatoon-tops-1-million-sales-in-japan-getting-a-squid-sisters-concert-in-january/
>>320545220
I actually agree with you, but this is where it gets a little weird.
Payday 2 will download premium DLC heist even if you dont pay for it. Heck, most steam games has all the DLC already downloaded even if you dont pay for it, it's just locked behind a wall.
So although i agree that Splatoon are more patches/updates rather than DLC, it gets complicated as DLC doesnt always get downloaded optionally
>>320539058
>>320539058
>>320539058
>Every other developer makes $60 game with $20 worth of content
>Adds in paid DLC
Nintendo still does it best.
When we're talking dlc we're usually talking empty games that pretends to be full games, and then makes you pay extra to fill it up.
Splatoon is an empty game sold for the price of a full game, that automatically fills itself for free so that you don't have to wait for them to finish everything, and can have fun with what is finished.
>>320545850
>it's ok when Nintendo sells an incomplete product and steals money from the players to unlock the content that was on disk anyway
>>320537002
Because Nintendo.
Don't forget physical DLC in form of McDonalds toys.
>>320537086
>free
Holding back content you paid 60 dollars for is free
No, it's bullshit. It makes the game awful for people who bought it at launch
>>320546150
Yeah because it's okay for other developers to do the same thing but make you pay to unlock content that was on the disc anyway.
You missed my point friend.
>>320546280
How? I feel like every month i get to play splatoon with new content. im not annoyed by it.
>>320539905
You forgot
>3d scan everything
I would be supprised if even a single environment model was made by hand not just by scanning them running software over it.
>>320537002
NINTENDOS BATTLEFRONT
>BUT SPLATOON IS A REAL GAME
>ITS FUN
>>320546280
>holding back content
The majority of content added wasn't even on the disc.
>>320546280
>No, it's bullshit. It makes the game awful for people who bought it at launch
why?
>>320546485
The difference is Splatoon dlc is free rather than paying an additional $50
It's not ok, but it's atleast not scummy as fuck
>>320544417
I'm pretty sure all the contend added with the August update and after wasn't ondisc. People were datamining that shit man. Unless you want to be paranoid and say that the design-an-outfit contest in Japan was staged and the person who won was an employee and that outfit was already made beforehand and was just not on disc.
>>320546681
*content, sorry.
I want to sinkling my dinkling into an inkling
>>320546280
it's more like they weren't finished developing the game when they were pushed to release it for the summer
>>320546607
what makes you think they aren't gearing up for it in January? nintendo is known for gouging prices for simple shit like characters in smash for 10 dollars
>>320539732
I second that anon
>>320546959
Smash's DLC prices are outrageous, $6 for a character you shitting me?
Anyways, you might be right, they might charge for DLC after january. But you're ignoring the conversation. That guy (probably you), claimed this is Nintendo's Battlefront, a game that launched with little content and will add lots more through $50 season pass
This game already added lots without the $50 season pass.
Hopefully if they do start charging DLC, it's just costumes. Paying for stages is the worst thing ever for video games, splits the dang fanbase.
>>320539227
>a few million on a console where its playerbase is literally STARVING for games and will play anything that releases
>"sold well"
>>320546959
>10 dollars
No?
At most it's just been 6 or 7 dollars, about the same amount you'd spend on one trip to a fast food restaurant
>>320544415
>DLC
>Downloadable Content
>Updates
>Updates Download
>Splatoon Map Updates = DLC
>Checkmate Athiests
>>320546959
>>320547252
Well, all Bill said is that there's guaranteed support until January. Nothing about maps/gear/weapons costing money. I wouldn't see them dropping it though. It wouldn't make sense considering the number of sales, and if they drop it this quickly then I'm sure that would affect the consumer's opinion on purchasing the next game (if they make one).
But of course, who knows what's happening up in there. They might get forced by the higher ups to add paid DLC or something.
>>320537002
There are 11 maps? Could have fooled me since Arowana Mall is in every fucking rotation it seems like
>>320540337
>>320540654
>>320545148
>>320547564
That's like saying almost every single video game is an RPG since you "play a role" in every game and RPG just means role-playing game. Yes, DLC means downloadable content but the literal definition isn't what people mean when they refer to "DLC."
>>320547269
Those meme arrows don't negate actual sales totals, as much as you want them to.
>SaltySplatoon
>$60 game
>single player story, free dlc for a whole year, free online
>Star Wars Battlefront
>$60
>no single player, player data is Origin only, if you bought it on xbone/ps4 you have to pay for online in order to activate the remainder of the game (90%), day one season pass for another $60 plus tip
>>320548623
>plus tip
Literally my favorite meme
>>320538060
>>320548489
Well, it's the truth, so don't act like it was some super best seller and that people actually bought it because of its "quality".
>>320537002
>>320537086
Early access games at full price are OKAY when Nintendo does it because their fan base is too oblivious to realize they're being sold unfinished games with content stripped to keep it from dying immediately.
>>320548872
do you have data to back up what you just said earlier?
>>320537002
it's allowed because the game-purchasing public have decided that they're okay with it.
turns out that most people aren't that concerned with being nickle-and-dimed, and really just care about playing some FUCKIN BATTLEFRONT OH YEAH I LOVE STAR TREK BRO
>New Hitman game
>3 maps on launch
>3 more will get added in over time
All you fuckers that support shitty game practices are responsible for this shit. Pay to Play, Pay to Win, small DLC for expansion pack prices, its always been a bad deal but you desperate fucks screwed us all over.
>bait thread
>Nintendo related
Originality
>>320537002
>>320548887
>>320549162
cuz its all free, dipshits
>>320549627
>free content packs are okay when Nintendo does it
>>320548623
>Battlefront will be 20 dollars a year from now
>Splatoon will be 60 dollars until the sun burns out
The 50 dollar season pass is fucking bullshit though, no excuse. Also both games deserve a dick punch for launching with a laughable small amount of maps. Battlefront deserves an extra for launching with only shitty maps.
This is the exact same as the TF2 system which has been praised multiple times over for being one of the best ways of handling DLC
So does this mean Evolve is GOAT because all of their maps were released for free?
>>320549806
Free content packs are okay when literally anyone does it. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>320550126
>being this simple minded
>>320550351
I bought Evolve on release, please lower your expectations regarding my intelligence.
Only on /v/, where people only give a fuck when its Nintendo
>>320537002
Nintendo gets a free pass even with this bullshit
At this point what difference does it make???
>>320550472
Well at you're self aware about it.
Hate on Nintendo for the initial wave of on disc content all you want but the fact remains they've continued to develop and release more shit post launch that they could have very easily either not done or tried to sell via DLC, and any attempts to spin THAT into a bad thing feels like some pretty heavy reaching to me.
>>320547269
Hot damn those goalposts just keep on moving. At first the shitposters were saying the infamous "300k sold blunder bags of dicks ect," then that got BTFO. Then, the game was going to be dead in a week from lack of content. Then in a month. Then one million sales wasn't enough. Then two million isn't enough. Now we're sitting on about three million and it's STILL getting more free content and it STILL isn't enough to be "impressive".
It never fucking ends and I love it. I wanna see just how far you faggots can tote those goalposts.
