>blah blah companies should appeal more to girls by making more candy crush game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08CVkBxvBM
>>318416094
b-but they're still videogames
>GAMES ARE GAMES
They're not though.
you can't try to pull off the "ironic look" if you're fat
that's just being ironic
>>318417662
>ironic look
Holy shit fuck off
>>318416094
So, advertisements are what prevent women from playing games.
Libfags have the worst fucking hairstyles, holy shit.
Well. If there is a market, then why not?
>2017
>candy crush and zuma as hacking mini-games in Mass Effect:Andromeda
>>318416094
>games are games
just give us another video game crash
Every "problem" modern women face is giving a shit about what others think. Just stop caring and enjoy whatever you like.
>>318416094
Twink's got a point. Games are games. Just like those piss easy NES games.
>>318418339
This. This was the twinks argument in a nutshell.
When they port Candy Crush Saga to the PS4, Xbone, and Wii U, then I'll eat my own shoe. And even then, no girl's gonna buy a 200-300 dollar console for a mindless toilet game.
If CCS is their bar, then they need to raise that shit. It's Freemium garbage.
>>318416094
I don't get this argument, there ARE console games targetted at women, do you think it's 'hardcore gamer boys' buying 'Just Dance'. Not EVERY game has to target women as well as men.
Different movies come out tailored for the different genders, the market for 'Twilight' and '50 Shades of Grey' doesn't overlap with the market for 'The Expendables' and 'Die Hard'. Why don't people get this?
>>318416094
>millions of woman
>wanting to play vidya games
>prevented by ads
Is this hipster doofus for real?
This guy is saying literally nothing wrong beyond the melodramatic bullshit after the 3:30 mark.
Everyone here knows damn well women like shitty candy crush games en masse which is why so many statistics have managed to come around saying that women make 50% or more of all gamers.
>but they're going to ruin my hobby
No dipshit, you're ruining your hobby because you're actively refusing to allow other markets exist. Do you think teenage girls who went crazy over Bieber or one direction had any impact over what the people who enjoyed death grips or MF doom got? No because they're completely different markets within music, in the same way casuals that play clash of clans has no bearing whatsoever on Disgaea 5. The sooner people deal with the fact that women like their shitty iphone games is the faster we get less fake drama over how women are hardcore nerds because they like iphone games because they'll have their own separate clique to jerk each other off in.
Do women not have the trait to literally not give a shit?
>>318419023
>calls the guy a twink
>guy in video is an obese hairy dude
Lolwut?
>>318419336
Those millions of gamers ARE playing games, they are playing Candy Crush-like mobile game.
These people get mad if you point out it's not a 'real game', but they are also mad that 'real games' are not being tailored to women. It makes no sense. If mobile games are 'real games' then women are already playing them so what are you whining about.
>>318419251
>Why don't people get this?
because they have an agenda to shill.
reality destroys that. and people are too lazy and apathetic to think for themselves and instead parrot what they've heard.
>>318419612
You realize we're not the ones manufacturing the fake drama and no one cares that much that women enjoy mobile games. What's irritating is the nonsense pushed that the media the Candy Crush popularity should somehow dictate the direction of Call of Duty or something despite those two demographics being mutually exclusive of one another.
>>318417662
the fuck is an ironic look
>>318417662
>the "ironic look"
You mean this faggot ass smiling and nodding?
>>318419982
It's /fa/shion thing. You wouldn't understand.
>>318416094
If you watch ads on TV for AAA games, of course you're not going to want to play it if you're a girl. However, all those "gamers" that play that shit are a completely different breed.
>>318419969
This. No one really cares, but then all these people that watch the markets come out and say console and PC games are dead and that mobile is the future for everyone. People that play games are generally retarded and as such freak out and the literally nothing issue is now a big flame war of HURR DURR MUH GAMES > YOUR GAMES
PS4 should target more women the moment candy crush starts targeting men. People have different tastes and instead of enjoying whatever you like let's pester and harass people into changing things we don't like. Besides, last time I checked no one will refuse to sell you a game based on gender, but don't expect a game to change it's core mechanics in order to appease someone who probably isn't interested in that type of game at all. There's nothing stopping a woman from playing CoD/GTA nor is there anything stopping a man from playing Sims and puzzle/adventure games.
>>318419969
>You realize we're not the ones manufacturing the fake drama
and?
> no one cares that much that women enjoy mobile games.
Which is why these threads get hundreds of posts every time they're posted, which has been happening for months now.
>What's irritating is the nonsense pushed that the media
This shit happens literally all the time in all media, do you never read the news?
The media is baiting this entire discussion because of people like the retards ITT who is going to give it publicity.
>why people think video games are just for boys
A lot of people think video games are just for kids. Nobody thinks Animal Crossing or Just Dance are just for boys. People think games in genres like shooters or hardcore RPG's are just for boys because 90% of the people who buy and play them are male, that's what demographics are about. None of these liberal cocksuckers ever talk about demographics, they all like to pretend that video games are just one big pile of homogeneous products that are only marketed to men, and we all know that's fucking bullshit. Every single one of these critics and their cronies do the same thing: they look at the games made for and purchased primarily by men and they wonder why those games are catering to men and demand they be made for women instead; they do this every single time. It's the classic feminist tactic of "we don't care about something unless it's positive and primarily for men, then we have to either ruin it or take it for ourselves even if we don't really care about it just to spite men and get another victory". Do women as a whole (not just a very small percentage) want bloody shooting games and 150+ hour roleplaying games? We all know they don't, but feminists will do anything to shit all over those because men like them, that's the only reason.
>>318419650
Yes, but beta faggots like the guy in the OP want to convince you otherwise.
He's not wrong.
>>318420826
He's adressing a non-issue
Well, why the fuck are they playing Candy Crush and not King's Quest?
>>318420107
then go back there /fa/ggot
>>318416094
I get bashed on for playing a female character in an rpg by guys, but girls don't mind if I'm playing a female or male. Girls don't mind if I play a tumblr game or a shooter.
Girls are superior.
>>318420967
>You can only discuss issues
???
>>318421052
Girls don't care about anything they don't want to have sex with.
>>318420967
What's a non-issue? Marketing games almost entirely towards young boys has hamstrung the industry in general as he said.
Nobody says "Oh, well movies are just for boys!".
That's definitely an issue.
>>318420826
He is wrong.
>But that's only counting stupid facebook games
>So?
Women aren't going to spend 300+ bucks on a console or more on a gaming rig when they can play them on either facebook through a browser or a phone they already have and the kind of games boys play don't really work on phones or browsers.
>>318421052
Girls have shit taste, thanks for confirming
At least he had the good sense to point out that female developers exist in large amounts.
>PS4
>Xbox One
>refusing to serve an untapped market
What untapped market? Here's why phone games are successful:
1) They're on fucking phones, the things every woman has and uses all fucking day
2) They require no effort or time to get into and usually no money
3) They don't require a $400+ console and $60 games
That's why "phone games" aren't "just games" you stupid libfag. He's honestly advocating for there to be more shitty casual bejeweled clones on consoles so women will play their boyfriend's xbox more often instead of playing the exact same kind of game on their phones (this is the best-case scenario). HOW PROGRESSIVE!
>>318421147
Reminder that these no cost phone games makes more money than the PC market.
Have the skeletons infested the DOOM modding community yet?
>>318421121
Somebody got keked.
>>318421139
That's because men are the ones who buy the only games you should care about anyway.
If we start catering to women, we get shitty phone games, which are fucking horrendous
>>318416094
>posting bad youtube shit
Fuck off and die fagtron
>>318421262
They're putting money directly into the games over time not really realising how much they are spending.
It's like spending thousands to play a game in an arcade when you could have baught it.
>>318421262
That's not a good thing
>>318416094
The fact that this is considered a problem is an indicator that there are no problems and everything is A-OK.
>>318421139
marketing non-casual games to women has been tried repeatedly throughout the decades and it has always failed miserably. Women are, by and large, just not interested.
>>318421420
close
Google Anita Sarkesian and Doom
>>318419694
Cultural difference, you anorexic yuropoors wouldn't understand.
Isnt there enough candy crash game around already?
Jesus Christ that shits been more rehashed than any other game at this point.
More often than RE4 and Rayman 2.
>>318421498
>>318421525
All I'm saying is that this idea that women wouldn't spend money is rubbish and that console companies don't care about it when it's a potential market worth tens of billions is complete bull.
>>318416094
How is he wrong?
>>318421262
No, A SINGLE no cost phone game makes more money than the PC market
Devs are finally realizing that there's no real market to grow there, and that the games that are huge are massive flukes
>>318421425
>That's because men are the ones who buy the only games
Because marketing and games were only catered directly to young boys in the past. The marketing happened before the sales. Also, more women are playing games now than ever in the past 30 years because of shifts in the marketing, attitudes, and content of games.
It's not rocket science.
Quote from the comments, going to paraphrase and spellcheck:
>that study that says girls play games more than boys also says they only play for less than an hour a week and they play casino games, while boys play on average 3 to 4 days(?) a week. The market still says for the most part women don't find gaming appealing and companies would lose money trying to advertise towards new women because the hardcore women gamers out there don't need to be drawn in to gaming, they're already here. I know tons of hardcore gamers that are women that didn't get in because of ads but because of quality games
tl;dr any woman who wants to buy a console already has. You can't expect Sony or Microsoft to magically turn a profit by "appealing to a demographic" that's already satisfied by what they have, i.e. phone games.
>>318421139
Its not though
>>318421119
You can discuss non-issues, but that means you're a total faggot that doesnt have anything better to do than to complain about meaningless shit.
>>318420424
>Which is why these threads get hundreds of posts every time they're posted
If you'll notice, the threads that get replies are not
>"girls play mobile games, thoughts?"
but rather
>"GIRL GAMERS, SJW PANDERING, FEM WAVE INCOMING, U MAD /v/????"
which is very different. No one gives a fuck if girls play games on their phone constantly, anyone who's ever been outside knows that already happens. It's when ignorant fucks begin making statistics about it, talk about how video games are unwelcoming to women, or when devs try to get more women to play games (ie ruin them) even though they clearly only play dumb fucking Casual Crush.
>>318416094
>acktually.jpg
Pacman was made by Namco and Ms Pacman was made by Midway. Right off the bat he's wrong
>>318421119
If it's a non-issue, why does it need to be fixed?
>>318422019
>MUH FEMINISM
Need you ask more?
>>318416094
lol'd hard
I never got the argument to inlcude facebook games
If he says "So what, games are games" and over 50% of player are women, doesn't that mean the market is open for women?
If he wants to include those games in the statistics then he also has to include them in the overall game market
>>318422019
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.avi
>>318421785
Yes, more women are playing games now, but they're still a minority.
And why shouldn't they market games to boys/men anyway? It's like asking toy companies to make toy-guns for girls, men are just by default attracted to action games, shooters, and most of the genres that make up of like 95% of games posted on /v/
>>318421593
Everyone starts out with "casual" games. I started out with Lego Island. It's not a thing that happens overnight. Candy Crush turns into Hearthstone, Hearthstone turns into Skyrim and Skyrim turns into Dark Souls.
It's happened with my wife. There's no reason to think women don't like video games on a fundamental level.
That's just cynical nonsense.
What is the point of this episode? Why would marketing change what they're currently doing if it works so well?
>porsche should swap to making wagons and minivans since more car owners are parents
Adam is retarded.
>>318422293
>There's no reason to think women don't like video games on a fundamental level.
What is sexual dimorphism?Or are you one of those people who believe sexual dimorphism doesn't exist in male and female brains?
This really isn't a problem with how video games are made. It's a problem with gender roles.
Next.
>>318416094
So fucking tired of this.
>If they play mobile games, then they must WANT to play console games too
HOW ARE PEOPLE DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THIS?
>>318422579
>What is sexual dimorphism?
A term you found on Wikipedia and threw into a discussion in an attempt to act knowledgeable.
>That's just counting stupid phone games.
The kid was fucking right. Fuck off adam you cunt.
>>318422293
>Candy Crush turns into Hearthstone, Hearthstone turns into Skyrim and Skyrim turns into Dark Souls.
Or you can just treat them like adults to begin with. The first video game my niece, who was 10 at the time, beat was King's Field 1.
If companies already thought they could make more money off girls they already would have.
It's like they don't understand how much market research and actual marketing these companies do to maximize profits.
>>318422696
But the guy is right? Don't try to avoid his question like that, he's anonymous so you can't really tell if he's an academic, an 18 year old NEET orme
>>318418891
this desu
>>318416094
i tried watching that thinking it was for someone my age
it wasnt
it's a message aimed at children to teens maybe even young adults
that aside if im playing against a shit player i wont have fun and if im playing against a superior player i wont have fun but i will try to win or just quit point being if youre not playing to compete or for entertainment then youre playing for the wrong reasons that is all
Any fucking research could tell you that a majority of core gamers are men because men like core games
Most girls play casual games like Candy Crush because that's what girls like
>>318422696
>he doesn't know about sexual dimorphism.
This is basically right and subdividing everything is of finite value because so many things are mis-marketed or appeal to unknown aspects of individual people.
Still, eyeball hours and money spent are very important as well.
>>318416094
>games are games
And ALL books are books
>>318422239
Good fucking point
Vidya should be made more acceptable for men amirite
>>318421705
>tfw actually American
In no way is that considered a twink. Furthermore, are you a faggot? I genuinely ask that question because only faggots use the word twink. And if you are a faggot you'd know that's clearly a cub and not a twink.I would know, Im a faggot, you faggot.
I am mostly just annoyed that the puzzle genre got corrupted into this garbage.
why does the video watch like an elementary school tutorial on brushing your teeth?
fucking faggot i swear.
>advertising prevented women from playing games
![kyogre-pokemon-shuffle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4cO3vA0.jpg "kyogre-pokemon-shuffle[1].jpg")
>>318423321
NIntendo is already at it
So progressive
>>318423584
Too late now.
>>318423584
>yfw no more good Puzzle Fighter
Females were never excluded from video games, this is a non-issue. The only thing keeping people from playing video games is females telling other females that it's not socially acceptable, and even then its weak peer pressure and no one knows what you do when you're alone at home. So even that isn't an excuse. Casual games don't hurt gaming, and no one is stopping a viable product from taking advantage of niche markets and demographics. The only people that ever suggest this don't even play video games and have political agendas. The market caters to the purchasing habits of the consumer. If you think an underserved market for female gamers existed, you would logically exploit it to profit yourself.
>>318423673
It's quite funny you mention it, the appeal of these videos are the fact that they're easily digestible/ascessable by morons, same as the mobile women games
>>318422239
This guy gets it, they act like their mobile games are 'good enough' when people look down on them, but when they're complaining about no games for women and someone points to mobile games, suddenly they're NOT good enough.
>>318423931
I hate to say it but sometimes capitalism, it just works.
>>318422779
No kidding, these idiots act like companies are just as politically and socially driven as them and not entities that exist solely to make money. If women were an untapped lucrative market that would bolster sales twofold, I'm sure someone would have noticed.
>>318424387
Sexist pig
>>318424387
Didn't a bunch of companies that used to make real games swap to phone games a few years ago because they realised the potential though?
>>318416094
This video was annoying and pretentious sure, but am I the only one here who is just surprised to see what happened to college humor? They used to actually be funny and practical, now they just preach the "LOL nerd" attitude and Tumblr "culture" and churn it out in video form.
Shame really
Collegehumor hasn't been good since 2008.
Let us also for a second look into what the most popular AAA games are and their genre counterparts in other media
>Call of Duty
any war movie, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers
mostly male viewers
>Grand Theft Auto
Crime drama, How many women are into Godfather, the Wire, Scarface?
>Fallout/Skyrim
Women play Skyrim but Fallout not so much. It took a viral feminist blog sensation for Max Max to make big numbers this summer.
What women indulge in?
Main joke is Romantic Comedies but women also are into musicals and other unisex dramas. Women can get into fantasy shit, horror and to some extent cape shit.
The main fantasy games are Skyrim and Dragon age but the industry can use a more lighthearted kids friendly fantasy game to get women into it. Something more like Harry Potter.
Horror
Shit like Amnesia, Slender Man, Five Nights at Freddys was a hit among women. Granted these do not follow the survival aspect of classical Horror games they are a subset of the genre that has a huge market
>Cape shit
rate of successful capeshit games is too low
Overall its just dumb to ask why games like Call of Duty, Doom, Fallout, GTA when their respective genres in other media is just not popular with women. If you are a publisher willing to exploit an untapped market go ahead. Just understand somethings are proven to not work.
>>318423931
>no one knows what you do when you're alone at home
this. i knew a closeted gamer, she is one of the few friends i still talk to from early childhood.
she was drop dead gorgeous, 10/10 blonde from the south.
now she is a mom and plays WoW and reads the WoW books, like, obsessed status. i leveled to 100 with her and will most likely play Legion with her.
>>318416094
he's not too wrong, but he fails to aknowlege that nowdays publishers don't really cattter just to men, but also to women. It's just people who complain too much the ones who complain they are not being cattered to when a game is not dedicater to their demographic.
>games are art
when will this meme end?
>>318425104
Is this really collegehumor? It says trutv.
>>318416094
I would like to know, what do the girls of /v/ think about what he said?
![photo[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pP5x5Xx.jpg "photo[1].png")
>>318425160
You know what to do
>>318425104
>>318425119
Adam Conover isn't part of CollegeHumor anymore. He got his own TV show, and that's what this is. And to be honest, the episodes so far have been pretty good.
>>318425274
Same company, and for some reason or another I still follow them on facebook and I saw it there originally. And I swear I've seen that pretentious fat hipster in other CH videos
>>318425223
>he's not too wrong
I disagree, I think that he is entirely wrong, for the exact reasons you have just stated.
>>318421050
i keked
>>318425104
I thought they make fun of Tumblr.
https://youtu.be/BMUl6w1efXI
>More women are involved in sports then men
>Oh that is just counting stupid yoga/aerobic classes
>So what they're still sports
See how easy that is? Lets count something that is a physical activity with 1% the mechanical depth/time commitment to even the most casual AAA games. Wow i guess more sports should focus on female leagues right?
>>318416094
What in the heck is this clown shit.
>>318423931
>Koizumi designs Ocarina of Time's Link to be handsome and pretty because his wife suggested it would appeal to women
>Zelda is now one of the most storied video game series with significant if not majority-female population
>to say nothing of other Nintendo franchises like Animal Crossing
It's really a kind of convergent evolution scenario in the sense that many shounen manga in the 90s went from buff bodybuilder Superman/Kenshiro types to more slender, shoujo-expat looking guys like Rurouni Kenshin around the same time as Zelda's flirtation with a physically attractive Link.
So really, trying to draw women in isn't a bad idea and it can pay off wonders as Japan has proven. I think they're just going about it in the wrong way.
The biggest obstacle really is that they didn't try this earlier and not when women would rather play free games on a smartphone or tablet they already own rather than a $200-400 investment on a device plus games, which the 20% of the conventional gaming audience that is female is already a part of and needs no courting.
>>318425274
The show is aired on trutv but most of the actors (and probably writers) are from CollegeHumor.
>>318425412
I actually agree with you, the show is actually pretty good, but Conover is definitely still CollegeHumor. Clips of the show are put on his channel.
Not to mention Adam Ruins Everything started as a series of clips originally made by CH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
>>318416094
>videogames are boys only club
I feel like the people complaining about this alleged mentality are the same people who think "there are no girls on the internet" is still a thing.
>>318416094
>Adam keks everything
This reminds me of George Miller including strong female protagonist who dont need no men in Mad Max Fury Road in an attempt to appeal to girls.
But girls still dont give a shit about action films, they rather watch musicals like Pitch Perfect 2 instead
>>318425794
>there are no girls on the internet
Isn't there only like 10% women on places like 4chan?
Alexa claims that men are underrepresented on 4chan, but I seriously doubt this, considering the content that gets posted.
I had always assumed that most women use shit like facebook
>>318425946
That's because the movie was still very boyish, outside of the story focus on Furiosa. Hell, they even made the ''Breeders'' sound like a bunch of stupid morons, spouting pseudo-religious shit.
>>318419612
It's just that men bitching FOR woman about things that hardly used to concern them in any real way until this decade, obviously have an ulterior motive.
>>318426203
>implying 90% of 4chan users aren't lesbians
>>318426542
B-but this isn't /a/ or /u/
>>318416094
>this just in: selective marketing is a thing that exists!
>>318426685
Only if you're a sexist bigot.
>>318425545
Is there a reason this is the second time I've seen this pic?
Why? aren't they like 50% of the gamer base? that's the story you here thrown aroun by SJWs all the time.
>>318426765
So if I like Barbie games or other games targeted to women, like Cooking Mama 5 because it's fun, should I be outraged??????????????
>>318426203
Alexa data must be full of shit.
How can they legitimately tell these things?
>>318426824
Id say atleast half of those statistics are moms buying games and consoles for their kids and atleast a third is for people who play candy crush-like games.
>>318416094
But that's wrong.
>>318426765
But selective marketing isn't limited to sexes.
It extends to races, religions, political belief, sexuality, if it didn't exist the world would be boring as fuck.
Different people have different interests, including sexes. If everything was made and marketed for everybody everywhere the world would be a significantly more boring place.
Art requires selective marketing in order to exist, without it all art forms would blend together into pure sameyness.
Jesus I just want to crush through this motherfuckers entire head with my fist. Every time I see that fucking face when I'm lurking, I get this mental image of my entire goddamn fist moving in slow motion, just fucking destroying his entire skull.
>>318427634
3edgy5me
>>318427754
Then I guess you better go have your naptime, kid
>>318423759
What's the point of Shuffle when Trozei exists? They even came out the same year, and I am fairly sure you can get all 720 Pokemon in Battle Trozei.
>>318425663
I agree, I've been enjoying the show.
>>318425341
>girls
>/v/
>>318428458
>le /v/ is no girls allowed sekrit club meme
Stop it.
>>318428458
Do you have more animegirls with questionmarks?
I need them for my collection
>>318426824
That's because casual gaming. For "core" AAA gamers it's 70%-90% male depending on the game. It's been like that for a long time, and will not budge. For extremely competitive genres like MOBAs it's upards of 90%.
For genres like warsims I imagine it's 100% male or very damned close.
If I can complain about retarded men ruining the market by buying the same fucking shitty FPSs and MOBAs, I can also complain about retarded women ruining the market with shitty phone games, Kim Kardashians, and feminism. Both things are true.
>>318428658
>being a white knight
>any year
>caring about identity on an anonymous board
>>318428658
Girls are allowed but I think they all went to /vp/ to fart on each other or whatever girls do.
>>318416094
Logically speaking it seems like a sound argument but really doesn't hold water because
A) Even before the crash arcades and game culture was still slanted. Yeah some games where unisex and there where defiantly females in those arcades but most programmers and big name champions where dudes. Also most of the art and mood arcades had was pretty male focused. Just look the art on cabinets like centipede, gauntlet, dragons lair, or galaga. Shit looks like its belongs in a comic book or a metal album.
B) Dude bro commercials have been pretty much dead for a while now. Notice his montage of game commercials. His montage of commercials the only adds that are remotely new are the xbox YO add (that got panned by gamers) and a mobile game. The worse offenders where adds that are literally a decade or more older, and hell they even had an add from OoT that's pretty much on the most popular games for females.
C) If mobile games on consoles would of been profitable they would of done it by now. This isn't 1994 and running the data on this stuff isn't hard. There isn't some sort of universal boy club at all the offices of the major gaming corporations that sit around saying "god we could get so much money from these mobile gamers but their females and I DON'T WANT COOTIES". The fact of the matter is mobile games are tied to item that is considered nearly necessary to operate in modern society. The cell phone is impossible to compete with because it does so much more utility wise than any game console. You can't just replicate phone games and get phone game success. The entire platform is so different that emulating it is a fools game.
>>318416094
welp, that's a punchable face if I've ever seen one
He neglects the fact that millions of adult women are lazy and shit and teenage boys go to school while generally adult males work.
It's easy to sit on your ass and play phone games all day when you're being a welfare queen.
>>318429871
his entire head needs to be hit with a sledgehammer tbfp
or he could try looking like a fucking adult whichever
>>318429473
>not being a white knight
>ever
>>318421139
>anyone at all being surprised video games are marketed towards men when men are the ones buying the shit
Wow, stop the fucking presses.
>>318429734
>Even before the crash arcades and game culture was still slanted.
This. I love how feminists always try to rewrite history.
>b-but it's because of US advertising, look at this old ad!
Then why is it a consistent thing across all countries?
http://www.wired.com/2010/05/pac-man-30-years/
>Toru Iwatani: Around the time that we launched Pac-Man, video arcades were filled with games where you shoot aliens. It seemed very dark. It was for men, it wasn’t fashionable at all. When women would go out, they’d go out in a group of friends or with a boyfriend as a couple. And I realized that if women and couples were going to come to game centers, they had to be cheerful places.
>When you think about things women like, you think about fashion, or fortune-telling, or food or dating boyfriends. So I decided to theme the game around “eating” — after eating dinner, women like to have dessert.
Damn, I haven't seen a video this flat out wrong in a while.
>game crash causes NES to be marketed as a boy to
No. The NES was redsigned to NOT look like a toy you retartd, it was deignesed to look like a higher end peice of electron equpiment, like a VCR. And it was marketed as a family entertainment system. It's in the name of the product. You would know that if you knew anything about gaming history, instead of just picking up an NES within the past 5 years cause it's "hip" and "retro".
>video games have been marketed solely towards men and thats why the audience for them is mostly male
Also not true. Companies what to sell their product to as many people as possible, they have tried time and time again to market to a female audience, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And when it does work they usually buy a console and that game, and that's it.
I could go on about this shit further, but I got bored...
>>318430483
>Women like eating and desserts
>creates a game around that
>Pro feminazism company holds it up as positive example
I don't quite know how to connect these dots but it sound hitlarious so far.
>>318427873
>>318425663
I really liked the voting episodes.
Pointed out a lot of bullshit about our political system.
>>318428732
I don't know why but it's become some kind of fetish.
>>318431094
I don't mind if women get more games that are more oriented towards their interests, it's only fair. The thing I don't like though is taking things i like and ruining it for the sake of appealing to women by filling it with QTE's and romance shit completely ruining any appeal the game ever had as an actual video game.
>>318428732
How many do you have?
Can I join?
>>318427634
It's because he's designed to look like an annoying know-it-all, since that's his shtick. Ruining shit and misconceptions with facts people would rather be ignorant about.
>>318432326
>>318432421
>>318432539
>>318432712
>>318428458
>>318428732
I don't know anime very well, are all these characters from the same show or is the animation style seriously this generic?
>>318426985
It is full of shit. They get their data from people using a toolbar that they install.
But I like telling people that 4chan is 90% female to shut up retards.
>>318432930
>>318432421 and >>318432539 are from the same show
>>318432930
>>318432712 and >>318432712 are from the same show too.
Imagine that.
>>318432930
Well, that comment is like "all black people look alike" which is simply not true.
The artstyle is somewhat generic, but they're moe anime, so they all share the moe traits, i,ie. Big eyes, heads, etc.
It's not strange that a stranger to anime would not spot the difference though.
Now start watching anime!
>>318433343
>Now start watching anime!
Hahaha, aaaahahahahaha, no.
![[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.36_[2015.11.27_22.53.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O2fMtqg.jpg "[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.36_[2015.11.27_22.53.19].jpg")
>>318433452
>>318416094
>women are going to buy a ps4 for phone games they already play on their phone.
This fucken guy.
>>318422293
Notice how all women into harder games got into it through a boyfriend or husband?
By and large they just don't like that shit.
So is this just a short one-off thing like the original CH ones or is this a clip pulled from an entire episode about game stuff?
>>318434035
It's a full TV show, anon. It's like nine episodes in now.
>>318416094
>SO? GAYMZ ARE GAYMZ!!!
Fucking
K E K
E
K
>>318434128
Yes I know that, I'm asking if OP's clip is one of the shorts or pulled from a full episode
I feel like if there was a whole episode about gaming I would have seen more threads about it
>>318433504
is that the cartoon with the tomato girl?
>>318421139
Yea because women like the same movies men do...
Just because the main publishers are targeting the genres men like, doesnt mean they should target the genres women like.
>>318434236
It's pulled from a whole episode, but the episodes usually cover broader topics.
Like one episode was all about hygiene products, if I had to hazard a guess this one is about the various mediums of entertainment.
>>318433937
Because games were marketed to nothing but young boys for 30+ years anon.
>>318434254
yes
This could have been a veiled CollegeHumor thread. You fucking blew it, /v/.
>implying the marked wouldn't fix it if females would buy 60$ games
Also what a fucking fag.
>>318434437
then why do games like animal crossing and zelda have such large female fanbases, despite the marketing being gender neutral? Girls aren't men anon. They don't like autistic spreadsheet simulators and blood n' guts testosterone fests like guys do. Just accept it and move on.
Women don't like games
Look at some major polls on Gamefaqs, vast majority is men
>>318434702
What's there to say about CollegeHumor anymore? With the exception of "If Google Was a Guy" videos they're horribly unfunny.
They've been shit ever since 60% of the original cast left.
Spot on. Great vid. Really liking all of his stuff so far. Been doing my best to ensure video games are seen as an 'anyone' thing in my household and not exclude anyone for any reason, hopefully more people can do their part, too.
>hurrr durrrr girls playing mobile games are an untapped market
When will retards stop saying this shit? How is it untapped in any way? Do they not realize how big the mobile market is?
The girls who primarily play mobiles, will probably NOT even play video games.
My mother plays mobile games all the time, but she fucking HATES video games. She doesn't consider mobile games to be video games.
Mobile games and video games are not the same thing, they're not even the same market.
>>318434437
But a lot of them weren't.
See: >>318430483
Lots of them like Pac-Man were gender-neutral. It's just that most people who played games were boys and men, so along with the more gender-neutral ones, it made sense to market some of them more specifically to boys too.
>>318416094
>"women only play phone games because the console market advertises towards and targets men more than women so that should change so women can feel less excluded from the core market and shunned to shitty phone 'games'"
And yet the message you took from this is that companies should make more candy crush games.
It's always painfully obvious how /v/ intentionally misunderstands anything that doesn't support the insane victim complex that you all have developed.
>>318419612
The main difference between the music industry and the video game is money and time investment involved with production. Music is made by a smaller group of people and need to generate less money.
When it comes to video games, companies need to cover hundreds of employees for years, and expect to make all that money back and then some. Video game companies want the most bang for their buck, so they want the games to appeal to as many as possible. If there are studies saying that X are playing games, then they want X to buy their game, and hit all the aspects X is looking for.
>>318416094
Look at this man's appearance and tell me he will ever have an intelligent opinion on anything.
>>318435378
both opinions are absolute gutter shit.
>>318434806
You're completely missing the point. The point is that games have always been sold and marketed to young boys for the past 30 years. It's no surprise then whenever someone who doesn't play games thinks about them, the first thing that comes to mind is only young boys and manchildren play games. This isn't accidental. It's years of marketing that has become so ingrained in people's minds that it takes awhile before this association goes away. Are there games that women will enjoy? Yes, but if you can't ever get someone in the door, you can't change perceptions. Just lately, mass marketing hasn't been as effective due to the decentralized nature of information disseminated through the internet, that paradigm is changing a bit.
>>318416094
Didn't the mods already delete your shitty thread?
>>318435378
this is such fucking bullshit though, when's the last time you saw a game marketed towards exlusively men?
>CALL OF DUTY BLOPS THREE ON XBOX ONE
>BY BROS, 4 BROS
>NO GIRLS ALOUD
>#FUCKALLWOMEN
it's just such bullshit. Some women like video games. The majority of them don't. The ones that actually care enough about their fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit don't let some imagined social stigma stop them from enjoying it
>>318435638
>games are marketed exclusively towards young boys
this is such bullshit
>>318435585
>industries as a whole probably shouldn't exclude 50% of the population
>gutter shit opinion
Woah, someone with prejudice on /v/? I never thought I'd see the day!
>>318435790
>games are marketed exclusively towards young boys
>this is such bullshit
Aside from Barbie games they overwhelmingly were from the 80s til the mid 2000s. You're obviously underage or deluded if you can't agree on this simple fact.
>>318429734
>There isn't some sort of universal boy club at all the offices of the major gaming corporations that sit around saying "god we could get so much money from these mobile gamers but their females and I DON'T WANT COOTIES"
This so much.
Iam so tired of these fucking arguments when we live in a fucking capitalist society. Do these fools really believe that if there were some crazy money in making game X (which features only people from the LGBTQ*KIN whatever community) big/small corporations wouldnt DO IT?
Honestly I believe sometimes these people forget what capitalism or that we live in a capitalistic society.
I fucking hate this idiot and his style of humour.
>>318435793
what part of that 50% plays videogames?
if you can't play videogames because it's somehow marketed towards males then it's simply not for you. What is the distinction between a game for boys and a game for girls these days?
>>318436214
girls and boys as in female and male adults*
>>318435790
Every time I see that fucking ad for the phone game with that incredibly attractive model. Like, yesterday.
Call of Duty surprisingly enough made a recent attempt to include women in their advertisements with that one "seize glory" ad with Michael B Jordan. Of course, the ad as a whole had this weird thing of having the guy in the ad be a fat, ugly ginger, while the woman was a literal model. I'm not really sure how to interpret that to me, but it felt condescending and annoying as many video game ads often do.
Also, it's a little contradictory to call it an "imagine social stigma" directly after you did that one thing where you basically implied that women aren't REAL gamers. You know, when you said "fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit." So, yeah. That sentence alone does nothing but support the idea that a stigma is there.
I mean, my god. The tiniest amount of self-awareness is not that hard, guys.
>>318416094
>art form of the century
>videogames are only for men
>starts video showing an telling there are a lot of women into videogames
wtf Adam, are you dumb ?
>>318435638
>It's no surprise then whenever someone who doesn't play games thinks about them
It doesn't have to do with advertising, it's just reality. See: >>318430483 again
The same way we see football, soccer, sports in general, or chess as a "guy" thing, we see games as a "guy" thing mostly because it's true across every culture. It has little to do with advertising. There have been plenty of examples of games, even some consoles marketed to girls, or gender-neutral. Some of them succeeded like The Sims or Nintendogs but they were one-off examples generally. Now it's mostly in the mobile phone market because everyone has a phone and they're simple games that anyone can play as a distraction.
>>318436484
>that fucking ad for the phone game with that incredibly attractive model
kate upton? damn is she overrated.
> when you said "fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit
Because that's what the majority of female gamers play. It upsetting you doesn't make it any less true.
>so, yeah
>I mean, my god
I hope you are a woman because if not you're a fucking faggot bro
>>318419612
>Do you think teenage girls who went crazy over Bieber or one direction had any impact over what the people who enjoyed death grips or MF doom got? No because they're completely different markets within music.
That's only partially true and you know it. Not because anyone of us gives a single fuck about what some 12yr old brat is playing on her fucking iPhone, but because the gaming industry is still stuck in the ''follow the money'' mindset.
And that means 2 things:
1.Publishers everywhere notices how easy it is to please the ''casual'' market and starts trying to make everything more ''accessible'' for the mass by purposefully deconstructing vidya genres and literally dumbing them down to the point where not even the new target audience finds any enjoyment out of it anymore. After that the cycle just starts a-new and we just get force-fed shitty games and halfhearted products.
2.The ''untapped market'' isn't nearly as profitable as these idiots are saying that they are, and/or they are just straight up lying straight to our faces, ruining our/you'r part of the industry and willfully makes everyone not on their side look bad.
A mixture of both of these thing are going on right now. Option 1 more so than 2 at the moment.
That's why so many of us are upset about this, these fucking assholes does not try too lead by example and instead just choose to try their hand at silencing the silent majority by spreading misinformation while also trying their best to force already established and well known developers/publishers to make products catered to them and only them.
At the end of the day, it's just a giant shit-flinging competition and it doesn't matter what side you choose since everyone suffers equally from the repercussions that this has on the industry.
>>318436214
>I don't understand extremely basic concepts of psychology, targeted demographics, marketing, or social attitudes
I really don't wanna debate this with you because I doubt you'll ever get it or even attempt to, but I'll give it ONE shot.
At the store, there are two disposable razors. One is pink and white and is packaged in a pink box.The other is blue or black or green and is packaged in a blue or black or green box. They are the exact same razor, just differently colored and differently packaged.
There's absolutely nothing saying the pink razor is "simply not for men," yet the only men who would buy the pink one are people who are buying it for a woman. This concept has been supported countless times in countless studies.
How a product is advertised and packaged makes a very big difference in society. This is a heavily supported concept.
>>318429734
>If mobile games on consoles would of been profitable they would of done it by now. This isn't 1994 and running the data on this stuff isn't hard.
Well, they did try putting Angry Birds on consoles. That went about as well as you'd expect.
>>318427634
*teleports behind you*
>>318437039
>Option 1 more so than 2 at the moment.
It will stay like that forever simply because you cant beat capitalism.
>>318436819
>Because that's what the majority of female gamers play. It upsetting you doesn't make it any less true.
I never claimed it wasn't. I'm just explaining why it's the case.
Also, oh boy, now you're showing yourself to be sexist towards men! You're a real stand-up guy.
>>318437105
I own angry birds on steam :3
>>318416094
>let me look up a few poorly done studies to back up my subjective claims
it's like /v/ has their own television programming...
>>318437319
Your passive aggressive attitude makes me want to violently rape you
>>318437415
I also own plenty of shit on Steam but you don't see me bragging about it.
>>318427634
>video games don't make you violent!
>>318437085
tldr ur an fagit.
it's a fucking idiotic idea for companies to make hardcore games for females, so that's why we don't see it happening. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>318437513
You should go on /sp/, you'll find out how sports make you violent. Better ban sports because it creates toxic masculinity!
>>318437475
Oh no, I'm so scared! You went for that one word that you've heard so many women saying triggers them online! Even worse, you still think I'm a woman! I'd better back down, your route of trying to silence me through intimidation is so much more effective than actually making an argument.
>>318437717
The cultures/fandoms of some sports actually do perpetuate toxic masculinity. I hope you weren't joking.
>>318437823
>woman
no it's exactly the fact that you're a passive aggressive little twink that makes me want to impale your boypussy
I'm gonna make you wear a dress and call me daddy fag boi
>>318437671
I've never seen someone try to refute a heavily supported hypothesis with a personal attack before! You must do great on papers.
>>318437945
>omg I can't believe these men are acting like men this is so problematic
>>318437823
>>318438112
is this your first day here, sweetheart? :^)
>>318438112
>heavily supported hypothesis
well if it got 1000 reblogs it must be true
>>318438002
I still don't really get if you're trying to shock or scare me or what. I see no problem with guys wanting to wear a dress and get plowed by a bear. I don't want to get plowed, but I'm always down to get lightly dominated by a short haired girl who's taller than me.
>>318438207
>men have to be one way and one way only
This is magical
>>318437945
Exactly, let's ban that.
Someone said he wanted to brutally fuck an actress and how he hates black people on /tv/ earlier, so better ban television shows since it causes racism and sexism. Also /lit/ made stupid comments about a Youtube video made by a girl and because of that she removed the video from Youtube a few months ago, better police books a lot more.
>>318438452
>men can't act a certain way
This is magical
>>318438328
>femdom faggot
why am I not surprised
I don't care if you like wearing dresses or not, you're going to put it on and suck my fucking dick or I'm going to kill you
>>318438452
>men all have to act like women or they are evil
>>318437823
>>318438112
I think it's time for you to go to a different website. Tumblr might be more suitable for you.
>>318438276
I was gonna keep replying jokingly, but I actually have been on /v/ since around 2005ish, and it's pretty sad how it's morphed into a haven for normies who hate people and video games instead of companies and normalfags who think gender norms are the shit and women are dumb.
>they only market to boys because they're old fashioned and out of touch!
Top kek. Marketers for EA, Sony, Microsoft, Activison, etc. are some of the smartest minds in the industry. They don't market to boys because they hate girls, they market to boys because they know it's more efficient. For example, for every $10,000 spent on marketing towards boys/men they may see a $14,000 return but for every $10,000 spent on marketing towards girls/women they may only see a $12,000 return.
Marketing is basically just investing, and investing in women in the vidya industry isn't as good as investing in men.
I can't believe how triggered you guys are getting, you're more sensitive than Reddit
>>318438854
you would know.
>>318419982
it's a look, but you're blind, so it's ironic.
I see what he did when the kid sperged in the end
>>318416094
Even in that short video there is a huge contradiction. So woman makes up most of the gaming market and at the same time they are not welcome in the industry? what sense does that makes?
>women are huge untapped market!
>billions of dollars!
>make a AAA game targeted and advertised at women
>it sells like shit
>something something internalized misogyny
>>318416094
I actually like Adam Ruins Everything, but this seems like a really long stretched out way just to say that video game marketing needs to change.
>>318416094
Everything wrong with the world can be traced back to politics or marketing. Shock and awe.
women and men are different
>HURRDURR PHONE GAME NOT REAL GAME
You have 10 seconds to explain why Candy Crush isn't a game, you no-true-Scotsmanning fucks.
And whatever you say can't apply to Tetris as well.
He made much better points in the other episodes. Probably because Games are a contested subject and social gamers need to be seperated from console/pc gamers thanks to a completely different set of interests and investments.
Some person who downloaded a free game on to their phone doesn't have the same market weight as someone who spent $400+ on a system and $60 on each game
Is an ad like this marketing to women?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSnp6g7LKM
>>318440000
>laughing when you miss the robot
>not throwing your ds at the wall
>>318421639
Or that moonman doom mod
>everyone calling Adam a liberal because they disagree with him
You know he's a libertarian, right?
>>318439747
They are games, they're just not the same type of games, so trying to force everything with interactivity into the same category without any delineation is stupid.
>>318440184
ADAM ON SUICIDE WATCH
Fuck all the regressive liberals.
>>318439747
They are games, but they're so different in purpose and market than console and PC games that the two should be segregated. The idea that the fanbase of mobile games has any impact on bigger games is a misconception. That's like saying magazines are books because they're printed on paper and you read them.
>>318439747
It is, it's just not the same game as COD, FF, DaS, or whatever. Different games cater to different people, whether you want to argue sex, race, IQ, interests, or whatever. Pointing to it and saying game companies are leaving behind an untapped market is silly when they cater to different ones. If candy crush was released on PS4 not much would change, that untapped market wouldn't suddenly be tapped, because it's already tapped by phones. Target and American Eagle both sell clothes, but they often appeal to different markets. Videogames are no different.
>>318440184
is that good or bad?
>>318440184
>lolberatarian
ugh I'd rather deal with libs, at least they're a real political ideology and not some inane fantasy
