Where will Fallout 4: New Vegas be set when it comes out in 2 years?
>>317749316
I want to say New York but probably not because that shit got bombed to the fucking ground. Probably a coast city since Fallout 4 had cut underwater content.
>tfw live in New York
drowned manhattan where people have built bridges between the skyscrapers, to create the games open world. emphasis on flying around and diving, endgame choice is whether or not to reactivate the cities massive underground pump system which will force out themermaid peopleand create a period of chaos as borders between the different micronations are temporarily obliterated.
>>317749316
Hopefully somewhere in the South. Thought I saw a post somewhere about New Orleans. Can't wait for magic ghoul negros.
>>317749534
Get the fuck out of my state you sissy faggot.
>>317750451
Anon I think this is the most retarded thing I have ever read
>>317752310
I like it.
>>317749316
>Fallout 4: New Vegas
New Vegas
>>317749316
I think it will be set in texas, and the dude ranch will be real, with dudes.
Florida, it's supposed to be a jungle of radioactive plants
>>317749316
>Obsidian
>making another fallout game
Ohohohohohohohoho
>>317749316
Pls Chicago and Northwest Indiana. And make it where there is a weather system that makes it so you can't be outside for an extended period of time or you freeze to death with giant post-appocolyptic snow storms.
>Texas.
>State was protected because we shot all nukes midair.
Too bad all non-Texicans get instagibbed as soon as they touch the border.
>>317749316
West somewhere.
Bethesda have the East, whoever they let make the game (which is likely Obsidian) have the West like the originals.
Personally I would like a follow up to New Vegas in the same manner that F2 was a follow up to F1.
I want to see what happened to the area. And maybe get some more stuff on the Legion and what became of it.
Hell you could make it about a civil war within the NCR. And you can either try to reunify them, or help one of the factions rise up.
>>317753987
>Personally I would like a follow up to New Vegas in the same manner that F2 was a follow up to F1.
No you wouldn't, because then they would have to create a canon ending and it would make NV utterly pointless. Which is why they wont do it.
>>317753690
There are hints of a Chicago DLC
some Idle Prydwen dialogue talks about a certain chapter causing trouble there
>>317754189
If Dragon Age could whip up a method to "import" your save from previous games, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that NV could too.
>>317754246
I'm kinda hoping for more dlc set inouter space.
>>317754246
>>317754792
Quite frankly I just wanna see my hometown. But you can honestly never go wrong with more space DLC.
>>317752225
>>317749534
BOTH OF YOU ARE TWINKS, FUCKOUTTA HEA
>>317756221
Fucking Long Island faggot.
>>317755123
>space DLC
please don't be talking about fucking MZ. It was very bad.
>>317756853
If by very bad you mean alright then yes.
>>317754189
Depends on the writing. If it is set an adequate enough time after the events of NV, things could have happened in the interim that render whatever the outcome was moot.
Like say the dam is now failing, so whoever did get it in the end, it didn't really matter.
Plus technically we already have canon endings in the series. Otherwise certain characters couldn't appear in later games.
Man, NYC Fallout would be so cool, but it's bombed.
>>317749316
Hopefully nowhere boring. F4's laughably limited illusion of choice dialogue has me actually hungering for an Obsidian Fallout 4 modgame, but I really hope they make a new place that isn't as dull as the Mojave.
it'll be set in heaven if you know what I mean
Bethesda: East Coast
Obsidian: West Coast.
So likely if Obsidian do another game, I would think Washington or Oregon
>>317758487
Anything interesting in either?
They really better not recycle the cowboy shit.
>>317758487
I think it'd be cool to have a Fallout game set in California, you could show more of the NCR and stuff
>>317758796
>No longer post apocalyptic or post post apocalyptic
Why bother?
>>317749316
Somewhere where there's a desert with nothing to see would be my bet
It has got to be Baja.
What were the "ghosts" the Veteran Rangers were chasing by order of president Kimball?
>>317749316
hopefully manhatten.
After that unimaginative abomination: New Vegas, i doubt bethesda will give them another shot.
>Obsidian
I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed after Bethesda fucked them out of their NV bonus
Daily reminder you spent your last pay on this.
>>317758934
Except New Vegas was hardly apocalyptic at all.
Every games except F3 and F4 (not canon for all I care) were much more centered around the post-post-apocalypse and the societies that were formed.
>>317759180
cept obsidian want to do another one
>>317759180
Yeah, fuck Bethesda for not giving them the bonus they agreed upon for fulfilling a condition that they didn't fulfill.
>>317759134
>>317759180
Here is your (you)
>>317759215
huh?
People think Obsidian will still be in business in two years?
They are getting ready for their spot on the Mount Rushmore of failed RPG studios.
They're not getting another chance after that trainwreck they released.
>>317759180
If i was going to give it to anyone, i'd give it to the guys who made me millions of dollars while still falling short of the rank that earned them millions of dollars.
>>317750451
New york is a crater bro
>>317759258
>Except New Vegas was hardly apocalyptic at all.
And it was boring for it, not to mention those niggers in the mojave spent 200 years squatting in ruins playing indians despite not getting hit by bombs.
And no, F1 and F2 were fairly post apo. Post-post apo is fine, but a completely tame and civilized location would suck.
>>317749316
I want a Fallout game set in Australia. Imagine how huge the spiders will be.
>>317749316
>implying obsidian won't go bankrupt in the next two years
Eh? Eh? Lots of colonial historic sites to continue the theme from 4, lots of good source music from the 50s, etc, etc.
Toronto DLC could be neat-o.
>>317759103
NYC is literally just a crater in the Fallout universe. However, that probably won't stop Bethesda, anyway. They don't even care about the source material or internal consistency in the franchise that they made. Let alone one that they bought.
>>317759486
>"blowing out" takes 4 years and is just contrarian points
Either the Pacific Northwest after the Great Khans went to Idaho, or Chicago with the very last remnants of the Enclave duking it out with the what's left of the Midwestern BoS.
I'm tired of fallout. 4 was good, but at 50 hours I no longer really have a drive to play. I beat NV so many times and so many different ways I can never go back.
It's for the best though, all that's left really is fetishists, waifufags and selfiefags.
>>317750451
I like the mental image.
>>317759632
>Winged White-Tip Brown Snakes
>>317759486
Set Oregon and Washington with dense forest and forest tribes
Atmosphere like the Road (dense dead forest, lots of wildfires and dead salted lands) with cannibals and tribal slavers
Constant wildfires and wars over food cause cannibalism and endless feudal wars.
The NCR are trying to set up new outpost to defend against the hordes of the north.
>>317758796
You just described Fallout 1 and 2
>>317759362
>nicola and bart
Florida
I'd like to see a post-legion Arizona. Follow the destabilization when Ceasar dies (even if you auto-doc him, hes gonna die eventually).
>>317758487
Fallout: New Portland
>>317753612
This, after Bethesda fucked them with NV I'll be very surprised if they don't spit in their face.
What about Texas?
>>317758934
Anon, war never changes. You think that a bloated and corrupt government could hold a nation together like that? It isn't hard to think up a civil war or something. Or like some major new FEV outbreak and everything went to shit again.
>>317760070
>NV
>Bitch-boy keks of the entire games industry
>Spitting in anyone's face
I'd be surprised if they're not licking their boots right now for another go at Fallout.
Fallout:Canada
>>317760183
A civil war in the civilized, tamed heart of the NCR would just be a modern shooter with some RPG elements on it and some 50's paraphernalia on the side.
They need to find some place unexplored, wild, and NOT AN EMPTY FUCKING DESERT.
Long Island would be the perfect setting for an east coast fallout.
It's got urban parts. It's got rural parts. It's got logical reasoning for why you can't leave it (bridges broken, instead of FO3's invisible walls). They could make an awesome manhattan DLC.
>>317760217
>everyone apologizing to each other
>use VATS for handshakes, opening doors for others, and thanking people
>speech is the only perk in the game
>>317760070
Bethesda liked New Vegas and the idea of Obsidian making fallout games
something about having both the "Bethesda" audience and the "Old Fallout" fan base being satisfied
>TFW you finally repaired the holes in your castle wall
Leaker here
Obsidian sequel will be located atkickstarter
>>317760217
Fallout: Ronto would be really fucking cool
>>317749316I kinda wish that they'd make a Bioshock game, set in Rapture, that follows a similar style to fallout. At least we could explore a post apocalypse in a completely new setting.
Fuck, anything at all new would be great. Why the fuck does it have to be a city? It could be a fucking space ship, a base, a miniaturized human trapped on a fucking skin follicle. Just something other than a fucking city that looks the same as the previous one.
Didn't they mention New Orleans once?.
>>317760630
New Orleans or the Boneyard is where Obsidian's sequel will be set
>>317749316
Lol, Atlantic City?
Sea of Tranquility dlc WHEN
>>317760552
>it's Toronto, Ohio
>>317752091
Somewhere swampy, dry or moist?
Maybe with huge, mutated crocks? Yeah ... I can see that. Obsidian, get on it.
Apparently Fallout 4 has swamps I have a thing for swamps but not buying the game because of fucking swamps
I want a real wasteland again.
>>317760493
That's an awful lot of general
>>317760785
>Medina, Ohio
fix't
>>317760371
>/v/
>"Only plebs and skillfags use anything but speech anyway. It's better this way"
>>317761140
Hi. Are you Obsidian?
>>317759632
>Abo ghouls and super mutants
>Constantly harassing you for a smoke
Oh yeah that would be fun.
>>317760990
Had to make those villagers do something. Why not make money?
>>317759542
>new vegas was shit
Tom Detected, Tom Detected!
Since Obsidian has dibs on the west coast, I would imagine Seattle or San Francisco being potential candidates, probably also some DLC about the BoS or NCR trying to scavenge Alaska for pre-war tech.
>>317760283
Pretty sure the heart of the NCR isn't a desert anymore since they got the GECK at the end of F2.
It isn't that I don't understand your reluctance but it all depends on the writing.
>>317761554
I really want Bethesda to just stick to the west coast. It's more interesting thatn the East, and they can more or less just add to the story in the west. If they actually get to make another game (fucking please Todd) then they might get a chance to come up with their own ideas and factions. Will be interesting.
radioactive water can be purified using dirt filtration
i want to like f3 but after my first playthrough i just get bored because i know nothing really matters
will i like new vegas
>>317762007
Bethesda games are the easiest games in the whole wide world to pirate. And you're asking us if you should play it.___________________________________________________________________________________________________yes______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>317762007
>will i like new vegas
Well if Fallout 3 bored you because nothing mattered, ie lack of consequences, then you'll like New Vegas. Skyrim was a fun game, Fallout 3 was a fun game, but the ... "Bethesda" illusion sort of wears off at one point, and you realize that nothing you actually do ever fucking matters, and then you lose interest. So yeah, try New Vegas, I'm sure you'd like it since it's overall a really good game.
>>317749316
Hopefully Texas
I loved the wild west influences in NV
>>317762007
New Vegas is bretty gud as far as choice, consequence, and roleplaying are concerned. Lonesome Road is poorly written and unnecessarily subversive, but you can otherwise ignore it.
>>317749316
Seattle. The rain in 4 is too comfy to not set it there.
So what HAS Bethesda Retconned?
Cats is the big thing I noticed.
>>317762317
Roaming through plains filled with long horn brahmin, taking cover from giant radiation twisters,Meeting Tycho's descendants, and allying with the great Texas Desert Rangers to build a wall to keep those god damned illegal ghouls out.
10/10 GOATYAY
>>317763092
Cats, Jet, MIT, and, to some extent, House. The only reference to New Vegas is that there's a city of aliens underneath the desert.
>>317749316
I think Obsidian said they want to do the next fallout in New Orleans
>>317763298
>tunnelers are aliens
plz make it stop
>>317762317
Some badass modders are doing that with Fallout New Vegas. Its a big project. I forget the name, though.
>>317763445
Too bad Obsidian probably won't do it.
>>317749316
Obsidian is all about continuing the Fallout story.
For that reason, I'd guess that either:
>NCR is moving North to Seattle/Vancouver and gets in a war with locals
>NCR is moving South to Mexico and gets in a war with Post-Apocalyptic Aztecs
>NCR sends out a few battleships East and lands in Japan/China, where they get in a war with the locals
or
>You are a political agent of the NCR and must travel all across California to save this new country before it crumbles from the inside. Along the way, you accidentally get elected president and decide the fate of the Khans, BoS, Ghouls, Mutants, etc.
This is what happen when you build your lore around the limitation of an old 90's game..
>>317763591
> too bad Obsidian probably won't get to do it
Fixed that for you. They'd do it. Definitely. And thank god, too.
>>317763465
...they wouldn't...would they?
I want Arizona to be represented more.
This shithole is perfect for a post-apocalyptic scenario
>>317763591
Yeah, Bethesdrones can't comprehend anything that isn't surface level. This doesn't surprise me
>>317763465
The MIT thing pisses me off more than it should. There's literally no reason to change the name to CIT. It's still the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and I doubt anyone called the place the Commonwealth before the war.
Bethesda, Maryland.
>bethesda studios is just a building full of retarded east coast supermutants pounding on keyboards, shouting "IT JUST WERKS", "IT'S A TOTALLY NEW ENGINE", etc
>>317763712
so your saying they wont get too but they want to so thank god?
>>317763840
Yeah...I actually didn't realize it was the MIT because I didn't know Boston was in Massachusetts.Geography is not a strength of mine.I'm willing to bet a LOT of other Americans don't know this either, unless they live there.
>>317758934
>this fucking attitude
>>317763970
Forgive my autism.
Thank god was pointed toward the fact that the game would once again be in the hands of people who have fully-functioning lobes.
>>317759542
> but a completely tame and civilized location would suck
Raiders, fiends, legion, Khans, some other factions that are going over my head.
What I'm saying is that you're an idiot.
>>317763465
I kind of just want them to retconn tunnelers. Like, shit, it's just a mechanism to make all of NV pointless. doesn't matter who won or lost, tunnelers ate everyone. Which is stupid, seeing as with House having access to the platinum chip (fallout universe's first microprocessor) and a near infinite number of highly advanced securitrons and a united vegas, tunnelers would be incredibly easy to kill. Shit, the courier alone could take down sizeable numbers of tunnelers.
>>317758934
Because that makes sense, if you want to do the whole 200 years forward shit that Bethesda wants.
>>317763602
Dude, you can do alot with a setting. Problem is that 200 in game years passed without anything happening.
I want to see mutant Crocs
>>317763758
>>317763465
The Bethesda retcons are absolutely abhorrent
>>317764425
Indiana Jones was a mistake.
>>317763591
>posting false information
>>317758487
Fallout in oregon would be really sweet, especally considering how nice alan wake looked.
>>317764578
I wasn't posting for the user score. The 84 is what's important, and what will probably not let them / make them not want to do it again.
>>317764367
What's this about tunnelers?
>>317760493
is this in the default construction workshop?
>>317764539
"Hey, what are these aliens looking at nuclear launch codes for :^)"
>>317764498
>next fallout game set in Louisiana
>locals having trouble with powerful reptile creatures
>turns out it's just alligators, they're not even mutated
>they kick your shit in
Crocs survived on
>>317749534
>Fallout 4 had cut underwater content
Holy fuck, source? I want a DLC that lets me make my Power armor a scuba suit and then go fight radsharks and radsquids and whatever those weird dolphins all over the place are.
>>317764736
It's said that they'd take over the mojave in a matter of years since they can tunnel everywhere, and apparently reproduce fast
I want this so much
>>317765089
*Crocs survived one extinction event they can survive another.
>>317764736
Lore-wise OP enemy type introduced in the Lonesome Road DLC. They're some weird mutated subhumans that can burrow through the earth at alarming speeds, capable of taking down Deathclaws with their pack mentalities. It's basically a bullshit super threat out of nowhere.
>>317759756
I could see a NY DLC in the same vein as the Glowing Sea.
>>317765258
Maybe they could ravage NCR so that muh post apocalypse guys can get what they want?
>>317764578
I honestly hope they never make another Fallout. This series needs to die before its too late. Bethesda cant write, Obsidian is just being used, and "200 years" shit has proven that the Fallout Universe has inhabitants stupider than any Borderlands character Gearbox could conjure.
>>317765506
But it's so good. And the west coast is relatively untainted
>>317765409
I'd prefer they just go down some weird alt-history route or something and start exploring how other parts of the US developed concurrently with the West Coast. Shame Bethesda came up with that bullshit "move the timeline further" clause.
>tfw your Faltout 3 design doc will never be realized
Honestly, Texas would be the best option. It'd be difficult to follow up on the ending of New Vegas 2, so setting it somewhere a good ways away and keeping the NCR and Legion as simple references from traveler's stories would work the best.
The Dallas Fort Worth area would probably work great, giving it the first 3D game with two major cities for the price of one. That said if they wanted to go Wild West, Houston might fit the feeling more.
>>317765725
Austin. Most people there are brain dead mutants anyway.
>>317764498
that would be awesome. crocs are generally slow until they strike. cant imagine running in a swamp and bumping into one of those fuckers. you wouldnt be able to react.
>>317765725
>More Revolver Fallout
Where do I sign up!?
>>317765845
Are you from a different city in texas or from california/new york?
>>317761024
I want my Amish wasteland settlement. I want to have to journey across miles of empty fields just to reach a town of 14 inhabitants. I want the wastelands version of Cincinnati chili. Fuck
The Florida Keys would be nice. There's such a distinct culture and lifestyle down there that you could build a setting out of, just like with Las Vegas. Instead of Elvis impersonators you have a tribe of parrotheads etc
>>317765936
I am from near DFW.
>>317759486
>>317764498
DEATHCLAW VS DEATHMAW
PLACE BETS
>>317765506
Given the sales figures that's never going to happen. Sure the Fallout games are no longer RPG's but it's definitely fun.
>>317766050
>unique gameplay
>what is 2hours of modding NV
>>317766078
Crocodiles are fucking scary. The only animal who gives them competition really is the hippo, and hippos are fucking whack too.
>>317765119
http://www.geek.com/games/fallout-4-has-a-hidden-harpoon-gun-that-decapitates-enemies-1640120/
>>317766140
Shame it's not talking about NV.
>>317760436
Bethesda fucked over Obsidian because New Vegas got a metacritic score of 84 instead of 85. Do you think the game just accidentally happened to get a 84? Obviously Bethesda paid the reviewers to give them a worse score so that Bethesda wouldn't have to pay a bonus to Obsidian.
>>317766203
Hippos are way scarier, and they're in a category of their own. I really don't understand why nature made them such aggressive killing machines when they're herbivores.
>>317758569
Could take a look at the Canadian borders, would be interesting due to the whole "Anexing Canada" thing the US did.
Canadian revolutionary mounties riding on mutated elks using modded hockey-clubs who kill Americans on sight. And have it take place during the winter, so instead of radioactive storms, we're given snow-storms.
>>317749316
louisiana
hawaii
michigan
some state with mountains
>>317766376
I mean that you can reproduce pretty much everything that is ''''unique''''' to fallout 4 in new vegas mods.
>>317766506
Hawaii would be hilarious but neat and self contained
>>317766554
dose legendary weapons tho
>>317759303
And Bethesda wants to cooperate with Obsidian. Really, they're probably in the talks about it already.
>>317749316
why would u wish that shit upon this world?
fuck i wish Fallout was a PC only series, then maybe a good version would emerge. Hopefully in time, mods will make F4 an enjoyable experience
>>317766554
Honestly? Not really - while what he said about Fallout 4's gun modding is bullshit (MGSV already did it, and technically so did MGS4) - New Vegas's gun modding system, even with mods, was much more simple and incomparable. Not saying either is better or worse, they're just different beasts.
>>317766078
What happens if they team up against us? Can we survive the Clawmaw?
![the-x-files-i-want-to-believe-print[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6tqELMp.jpg "the-x-files-i-want-to-believe-print[1].jpg")
>>317766649
I hope they can bring back skills though but that's a pipedream
>>317766390
> Obviously Bethesda paid the reviewers to give them a worse score so that Bethesda wouldn't have to pay a bonus to Obsidian.
Yea, it's obviously that and not because it's a reskinned Fallout 3 with even more bugs than the original.
>>317764689
Speaking of which, Fallout 4's metascore is sitting at a pretty 85 right now.
>>317766889
Why would you want that? The skills are baked into the perks. If anything, ask for "perk-checks" being used more.
I would love to see a Fallout game set in Florida, especially South Florida. Miami would be filled with Cuban raiders, and cannibals. Boca Raton would have a Vault that was only for old rich people. Key West would be a independent nation, and it would be called the Conch Republic. The Everglades would be filled with Mutant Crocodiles, and inbred rednecks. And, Fort Lauderdale would have a secret BoS base.
>>317766927
Yeah, that explains why it's conveniently 84 and not 85, 80, 70, 60, 85 or literally any other number, you fucking retard.
>>317766778
Mate I'm serious if you thing NV gun variety is limited you're wrong. We barely scratched the surface. Too much time wasted on textures.
>>317753756
Please no. if I get another boring, empty desert I may start hating obsidian
>>317766050
Why does anyone act like even the original two games had great writing. It's fucking video games I expect to have fun. If I want to read a fucking well written story I'll pick up a novel. There's plenty of problems with Beth's fallout games but the story isn't it.
>>317766995
Are they really rating it lower than 3? What the actual fuck?
>>317767085
Please be joking.
>>317767053
no
>>317760552
It would be cool, but sadly in Mothership Zeta, you glass the entire city with the alien spaceship cannon. Fuck Bethesda for making that DLC canon.
>>317767136
Then roleplaying games aren't for you
>>317756853
It really wasnt bad, fun and was a nice change from the wasteland of green.
>>317766927
Not the anon you were talking to, but if it were a larger spread than just 1 point I would likely agree.
This is just too close not to be suspicious.
It also helped highlight how stupid bonuses tied to metacritic scores given by the wastes of life that are 'professional' game journalist and reviewers is.
>>317767090
No, the guns are more varied in NV
I'm just saying that Fallout 4 just offers a different kind of modding and all that compared to NV where it's a much more straightforward set of upgrades.
Does Fallout 4's "lore" make sense in the Fallout universe? Do they make references to earlier games like 1,2,3 or NV?
As fucked as 3's story and lore was I could still tolerate it being part of the "official lore". But from what I'm hearing from people is that 4 is completely retarded even compared to 3.
>>317767245
Yeah, in fallout 4 you do it in game, in NV you open the GECK and you also learn a few thing about how things work.
>>317766859
My dick sure can.
>>317767223
I like roleplaying games, but dumb writing doesn't bother me unless I expect it to be better like literature. I don't see how it can bother anyone, or, at the very least how people can claim that it was ever well written. It's just changing from one mediocre story to another.
>>317767494
You're really trying hard to shit on Fallout 4 in a situation where you don't really need to, man. No one thinks Fallout 4 is better here.
>>317767397
On top of the "small" stuff people already complain about, I don't even think cryogenics working well are canon in fallout
>>317767397
FEV being reversible is pretty much all you need to know about how loose the game plays with its lore.
I mean I'm willing to let cryogenics somehow working correctly now a slide but the FEV shit is beyond retarded.
>>317763092
The entire Cabot House quest, what the fuck.
Robots have full AI
Vertibirds (they were a rare concept vehicle that never had rollout before the nukes dropped)
T-60 Power Armour pre-war
Fusion Cells last 100+ years
Super Mutants on the East Coast
Bombs dropped at 3AM in the morning
Jet/Myron
Raider Power Armour
Assaultrons pre-war
Gauss rifles being complete shit compared to top-tier military weaponry.
Ghouls are completely static in personality and age and are 100% immortal.
Pre-War X01 Power Armour
The Great War was already over by the time the bombs dropped and America wasn't at war with the Chinese. (Yes this is in a terminal in FO4)
Aliens really launched the nukes.
>>317757414
>Man, NYC Fallout would be so cool, but it's bombed.
Nothing a retcon can't fix
>>317767397
The thing is that Beth's interpretation of Fallout isn't necessarily wrong (outside of the glaring lore discrepancies and in regards to things like faction characterization etc), it is the time line that fucks it.
If they were set 50 years after the bombs, no worries. 150+ years is fucking retarded though. Especially when the quest is to go 2 blocks down the road to check a supermarket for left over food or supplies.
That shit should have been done already. They should already have either died of starvation, or established proper farms or some other food supply. Things should be either disheveled and nobody around, or built up if people actually survived.
I can live with the characterizations being different as just being artistic license. But the time line and logical conclusions from such a time frame they have put in are pants on head retarded.
Why does Bethesda always think that FEV plus humans equals supermutants?
That's not how supermutant creation works. Its a very specific process that took The Master years to perfect. FEV is not supermutant juice.
I mean fuck, both The Master and Harold are also FEV mutants but they aren't supermutants because they are not a product of the dipping process.
>>317765258
>>317765125
What the fuck? I missed that in Lonesome Road. Now I get why so many people hate that DLC. That's fucking horseshit.
>>317767931
>FEV being reversible is pretty much all you need to know
What? I haven't heard this. What has Beth done now?
>>317764058
>I actually didn't realize it was the MIT because I didn't know Boston was in Massachusetts.
>I'm willing to bet a LOT of other Americans don't know this either, unless they live there.
Yeah uh......not really...state capitals and major cities is something you're supposed to know by like 6th grade
>>317767397
>cryogenic, synth, teleportation
u decide for yourself
>>317766927
>with even more bugs than the original.
Which would be Bethesda's fault since they did QA.
And Obsidian made two gigantic bug fixes for NV before they finished and shipped all the DLC. Which is more than Bethesda could ever say for FO3.
>>317768228
Nah LR was pretty fucking good. I loved the environments.
Plus those enemies were absolutely fun to fight
>>317767941
>T-60 Power Armour pre-war
not retconned in fo4
>Bombs dropped at 3AM in the morning
you literally witness in the game it happening in the daytime
>Raider Power Armour
why wouldnt raiders be able to fix/repair power armor into working state
>Pre-War X01 Power Armour
once again no
>The Great War was already over by the time the bombs dropped and America wasn't at war with the Chinese. (Yes this is in a terminal in FO4)
No, it isn't
you actually haven't even played the game. why do people desperately want to hate fallout 4 so much?
>>317767397
3 has a shitton of stupid coincidences and OOC moments on top of its own internal consistency and terrible writing. It will always be worse than Fo4 in that regard. That being said, there are a lot of lazy slights in Fo4, like the existence of pre-war Jet (its post-war creation is a major plot point in Fo2 and you can travel around with the character who created it), a serum that can entirely reverse the effects of FEV (regardless of when it's applied, that's not how FEV works), cats, pre-war society, the Institute in general, and the overall state of the Commonwealth. Their insistence on moving the timeline forward coupled with their fixation on a lawless, ruined wasteland clash horribly. It's not as bad as Fo3, again, but it's still obnoxious and off-putting when you take into consideration the Institute and the Commonwealth as a whole.
>>317767397
Fallout 4 contradicts itself lorewise in the same fucking game.
You have a quest where some BoS member was stealing food to feed a bunch of feral ghouls to keep them satiated to prevent them from attacking people.
You also have a quest IN THE SAME FUCKING GAME where a ghoul child was locked inside a refrigerator for 200 years and survived just fine. You let him out and lo and behold both of his parents are also still alive as ghouls.
>>317768228
>I missed that in Lonesome Road
How? You literally cannot progress in the DLC unless you go through the highway tunnel where they show you a Deathclaw getting murdered by Tunnelers.
>>317767230
>>317757069
>tight corridors that are a pain to navigate
>heavy combat focus in a game with awful combat
>somehow very boring, given the setting and atmosphere
>repetitive gameplay of "shoot this alien, shoot this alien, and press a few buttons".
The only good thing was the loot. It is objectively the worst Fallout DLC yet. Point Lookout is 100x better than that shit.
>>317768640
I don't think he's saying he missed the tunnelers, anon. He's saying he missed the explanation as to why they're a threat to the mojave
>>317768598
doesn't need to eat doesn't mean can't eat
feeding them could stop the attacks, doesn't mean they need food, just that they are driven for it
it's sad that you can't envision this possibility and instead want to shit on the game when the reality of it is that you can't consider things outside an extremely narrow scope
>>317768228
Not too much to worry about, tunnelers hate bright lights and loud noises so actual cities would be fine.
If the Courier can handle packs of them then I'm sure the wasteland would be fine.
>>317768483
>muh bear and bull
I liked LRs environments too but it was mediocre because the story was retarded
How do you get that fucking shit Dogmeat to stay at a settlement
I fast travel out to an area for a quest and he follows, even after I tell him to stay
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>>317768730
>objectively
>>317768598
What was golden was Pete Hines (the PR guy for Beth) response when asked about those.
I don't egt why people are complaining about the Tunnelers specifically.
A huge point in all four DLCs is that there is something in those areas that most likely will spill over the Mojave and fuck shit up
Dead Money has the Cloud (There's an overhaul mod that plays around with this idea)
Honest Hearts has the White Legs/Other soon to be indoctrinated Legion tribes
Old World Blues has any experiments the Think Tank createsLike the Cazadoresas well as whenever they decide to leave the Big MT
And Lonesome Road has the Tunnelers and Marked Men.
>>317768567
I fucked up that post by mixing up what was canon before and retconned now..
T-60 Power Armour didn't exist pre-war before FO4, it does now.
Bombs dropped at 3AM in the morning in previous lore
Raiders cannot fix power armour, in previous lore, it was very, very technical equipment that required the best and brightest of the scribes to fix.
In FO4, X01 pre war Power Armour exists when it was created on the oil rig in FO2.
FO4 terminal has a message on a terminal from a US General telling the people not to worry the US isn't at war with China moments before the bombs go off.
>you actually haven't even played the game. why do people desperately want to hate fallout 4 so much?
I've played it extensively, not my fault Bethesda doesn't give a fuck about the lore.
>>317768762
Ghouls need to eat and drink.
This is established.
This is known.
Did you forget about the Children of the Atom in FO4 that have a Glowing One locked up that they state they have to feed?
Did you forget that if you taking the water chip from Necropolis fucks over the ghouls because they need water?
Or have you not played the games?
Are you autistic enough to decorate shelves with coke for hours?
>>317768975
>what was golden was
>doesn't give his response
so what was his golden response
>>317768975
I don't remember if those were the exact ones asked about (I think it was jet and something related to ghouls) but it boiled down to "lol it's just a game you nerd who cares"
>>317758569
post apoc cowboys are great, faggot
>>317769054
>FO4 terminal has a message on a terminal from a US General telling the people not to worry the US isn't at war with China moments before the bombs go off.
uhh bro that doesn't mean the same thing as it being true
part of the problem with these complaints is a literally autistic inability to read between the lines
assauging the fears of your citizenry under threat of panic doesn't mean telling the truth all the time
>>317768762
So why wasn't the kid stuck in the fridge absolutely feral then?If it were me I would say he survived on fungus that grew inside the fridge. Then have a ongoing quest to get him all the different foods available. And in the end he decides to stick with the fungus because he is so used to it. The gives you some sort of food related perk.
what about fallout hawaii?
>start Dead Money
>this guy who is supposed to be Brotherhood and honoroable has like kidnapped me
>all my shit is back in regular New Vegas because "radiation"
>tells me to scavenge
>find a vendor jukebox thing
>every single piece of food has radiation
>>317769035
You stop(or accomplish)Elijah's plan to spread the presently contained Cloud, essentially slaughter or otherwise thwart the White Legs, and prevent the Think Tank and their experiments from ever escaping from Big MT unless they're genuinely beneficial. The Tunnelers and the threat they posed are never actually dealt with, only mentioned as though they're inevitable.
>>317769071
i hope you realize it's all gonna fly away and fuck up when you leave the cell and come back
>>317769151
that's the only response necessary
i don't get where this idea comes from that a company who owns an IP can't change or contradict earlier things in an IP
it literally matters 0 that things chance or are "retconned" time moves on
>>317769298
>part of the problem with these complaints
>can only backpedal about one out of 15
??????
>>317769071
>No Quantums
Nigga what the fuck are you doing
>>317769397
Yeah, and fuck you too, buddy.
>>317769397
>that's the only response necessary
>
>i don't get where this idea comes from that a company who owns an IP can't change or contradict earlier things in an IP
>
>it literally matters 0 that things chance or are "retconned" time moves on
You know what else literally matters 0?
Everything.
You
Me
That guy
This is all nothing, so why bother? If you're going to have the attitude that "it doesn't matter" then you better fucking commit and admit that you should kill yourself if nothing matters.
>>317769392
>You stop(or accomplish)Elijah's plan to spread the presently contained Cloud
Nope, you just prevent Elijah from spreading it the instant he gets the chance to at best. The Cloud can still leak out because, you know, air fucking travels
>, essentially slaughter or otherwise thwart the White Legs
They're mostly still around, and there's countless other tribes being indoctrinated - you even can intrude on one such tribe in LR
>, and prevent the Think Tank and their experiments from ever escaping from Big MT unless they're genuinely beneficial
No, you get their promise they'll try not to let out any more experiments. But if they get bored and decide "Fuck it, let's see how the Mojave does with Cazaclaws" there's no real stopping them peacefully.
>>317768851
When they say take over the Mojave in a couple of years, do you think they could just be referring to the ecosystem? Like it would supplant all the native species.
I could be behind that because fuck Cazadors.
Though the idea of the Mojave natives fighting back by harnessing nature would be interesting. Like them training and armoring up Deathclaws.
Maybe figuring out some way to control Cazadors and Radscorpions or something.
>>317767931
>scientists manufacture literal humans with feelings and free will
>reversing fev should still be impossible
how does this contradict anything
>>317768960
>can't argue it
>decides to nitpick one word
Crawl back to your hole, you fucking weasel.
>>317769543
okay but
people are sitting here getting mad
because an IP owner decided to change aspects of the IP to not be constrained and do what they wanted
Lord of the rings contradicts shit in earlier tolkien writings btw does that make it bad?
I mean just the very idea of attacking from the angle of "things were changed" seems extremely childish and immature, and literally autistic, like you can't deal with things changing?
I used to live in Savannah, Georgia, and I think it would make a really interesting location.
Florida
>GECK gone wrong
>mutated plants errywhere
>everglades
>pink and blue neon lights
>rad gators
>raiders dressed up as twisted theme park entertainers
>>317769686
Yeah man fucking nerds caring about video games and shit. On /v/! I bet they don't even have girlfriends and are also fat and autistic. LOL!
>>317769774
But Florida is pretty much that right now.
>>317769091
>>317769151
Yeah my bad. Couldn't find the screens.
Here is the thread that has them.
>>317589142
>>317769543
this. Where did all this bored apathy in society come from. Why aren't more people mad that beth fucked up and couldn't even keep internal consistency in their games? Not even talking about "realism." They couldn't even keep made up shit from making zero sense. And people are defending this because...it's Bethesda?
If literally any other medium retroactively changed shit, people would be upset. But because it's Bethesda, people don't care.
>>317767941
>The entire Cabot House quest, what the fuck.
Where do you find that nazi-esque outfit in Fallout 4?
>>317769686
Look. Its not just changing previously established things.
Its general Bethesda godawful writing that can't be internally consistent in the same fucking game.
Combined with egregious retcons and the like from previous, better games.
>>317769682
I have no interest in arguing against it. If I argued against every post I disagreed with I'd be sitting on /v/ 24/7. You're a moron for thinking your opinion is objective, that's all I'm saying.
>There are people who dont put carpeting in their house
Savages
>>317749316
Northwest. They want to take ''The Seat''. Farther north theres a bunch of raiders called the Wongs. Descended by prewar Vancouver natives.
>>317754246
Haven't played FO4 yet but grew up in Boston and moved to Chicago about a year ago - what're these hints you speak of? That might be enough to make me get the game
>>317769567
>The Cloud can still leak out because, you know, air fucking travels
Which is why it's spread across the world in the 200 years since it was created, right? And why you can't easily dissipate an entire villa filled with the shit on your own? It's an entirely contained issue by the end of DM, especially considering the only people who really know how to get the Casino are either dead or have no intention of ever returning.
>you even can intrude on one such tribe in LR
Those tribes are only ever a problem if the Legion actually wins, and at that point they wouldn't be tribals. they threaten the Mojave no more than the Legion does. You can stop the Legion, and do, in most endings. They're not in any way comparable to the threat Tunnelers pose.
>But if they get bored and decide "Fuck it, let's see how the Mojave does with Cazaclaws" there's no real stopping them peacefully.
Th ending slides for OWB go up to the 2800s, and they're never referenced going out and fucking up the world. Besides, you can kill them all and seal the place up for good. It's a nonissue.
Again, you're given the opportunity to deal with these problems yourself. You can't do that with the Tunnelers.
>>317770014
nigga you used giftwrap as carpeting
>>317769686
They didn't just decided to change things because they could. They literally don't know the lore of the setting they are writing.
And when caught out, they say stupid shit like this;
>>317589142
And that was from a fucking Public Relations person.
>>317768598
Don't forget the director Ghoul and the Glowing One that were both locked into their rooms at the lab where you make that rad-charged power armor inthe college area. Those were supposed to be locked up since prior to the bomb dropping according to the terminals.
>>317768483
>Ulysses
>10 charisma
>10 Intelligence
>BEAR AND THE BULL BEAR AND THE BULL
nah fuck that dlc
>>317767138
you're asking for them to bring back an archaic form of determining player success rates from pen-and-paper, which was only in place due to the limitations of PnP RPGs, just because? Nostalgia?
>>317769071
>drinking soda
Purified water master race
