>complains about Jar Jar Binks and CGI in the prequels
>is okay with this CGI dried orange, magical negro, Yoda wannabe character
I'm not ok with it
don't ever again presume to know me or my opinions
The reddit generation would have been all over Jar Jar if he had been marketed to them by the disney masters of brainwash marketing.
>>70563345
and who might YOU be?
>>70563220
No one was okay with this
>>70563220
Why does its eyes look like buttholes? Is it symbolism?
Stop pretending children don't like Jar Jar.
>>70563386
No one complains openly about the CGI in TFA, but they suddenly hate CGI so much which became the go to excuse for hating the prequels and sounding cool.
7 fans are contrarian bigots, more news at eleven
>>70563220
that character was bland
jar jar was fucking annoying
She has horrifying asshole eyes and I almost threw up watching her.
REMINDER
3 > 5 > 4 > 1 = 6 > 2
7 isn't even Star Wars and doesn't belong on the list
>>70563220
She was in like two scenes and didn't scream like a faggot the whole the time, she's okay in my book.
>>70563466
This.
She was in the movie for like 10 minutes and dies.
Jar Jar survived 3 movies.
>>70563466
7 is just 4 actually
>>70563468
>says faggot
>likes the most sjw movie ever
>>70563220
She looks like a pod racing alien
Especially with the goggles
>>70563468
>>70563493
>I-IT'S OK CUZ SHE HAD LESS SCREENTIME
Kys faggots
>>70563220
You still remember and discuss Jar Jar almost 20 years later. Will you still remember tangerine turdgoblin in 20 years?
>>70563507
Except 4 is objectively way better and was made 40 years ago. There is absolutely no reason to remake it.
>>70563220
The problem with JarJar Binks was not his appearance. I actually kind of like the Gungan design. It was his ridiculous characterization and inescapable presence throughout TPM - from the moment he's introduced, he's almost constantly on-screen, doing some stupid pratfall.
>>70563493
she doesn't die though.
She is dubbed by a black woman who did a terrible job, but the character is immortal, mark my words.
You could say that Phasma died just as well. I mean, it is a logical conclusion that she has died, but she didn't because wimmynz.
>>70563466
Objectively correct ranking.
>>70563519
>Being this autistic
I usually hate all-CG characters like this because no matter what, they always look fake and take me out of the world.
Maz was no exception, but at least she wasn't a bumbling, retarded comic relief that only a toddler would find entertaining.
>>70563562
>from the moment he's introduced, he's almost constantly on-screen, doing some stupid pratfall.
>>70563598
>it's ok when Disney does it tho :^)
Hypocrite piece of shit.
>>70563493
Jar Jar proved that sometimes you need to trust and work with the person you thought was a complete idiot, in Episode 1. He has very little screen time in Episode 2, and in Episode 3 (I think) he shows that when you give a high position of power to someone just because he's your friend, he will have no clue what to do with it (when he's a senator and suggests giving more power to Palpatine). That's some decent commentary on real life that justifies his character.
I guess some people were too busy to notice this because their brain can't assimilate that one character in a movie like these isn't "a badass".
I didn't know she died but her voice acting is horrible and she looked so bad in contrast to all the costumed characters and puppets in her cantina temple.
Would definitely be happy if she did not return.
>>70563640
>projecting this hard
>>70563422
The CGI in the prequels was way more excessive.
The orange lady was just in a couple of scenes. By contrast, we had to bear with Jar Jar for pretty much the entirety of Phantom Menace.
>>70563422
That's because the CG was fine in TFA and used more sparingly.
>>70563660
>Maz is g-good at least she isn't Jar Jar like Disney told me :^)
>>70563220
she was fine, wasn't great, was in a couple of scenes. The cgi wasn't bad and overused.
Jar jar literally ruined the first movie, he was annoying as fuck, over the top and terrible. They added a retarded jamaican rabbit to try to appeal to kids and failed terribly.
The fact that you're even comparing the two, and that people are agreeing, proves how contrarian and autistic /tv/ is.
There were plenty of legit complaints against 7 (another deathstar thrown in haphazardly at the end, too many call backs to 4) but this is a pretty light problem even if you didn't like her.
>>70563695
The "wesa warriors" scene justified Jar Jar imo. Amidala is right next to this annoying loser idiot and realizes her plan needs him and that he has just saved her ass by offering to help with his army even though he has been shunned by his people.
But no, viewers will be so dense that they only notice he has an annoying voice and doesn't shoot lazers.
Maz Kanata is a secret sith lord.
>>70563220
Nobody particularly liked Maz but she was certainly better than Jar Jar if for no other reason that she wasn't shoe-horned into more than her brief role.
>>70563733
>implying
>>70563752
>autistic people calling other people autistic
>>70563806
Takes one to know one, right?
>>70563752
I don't think you understood Jar Jar's point in the movie.
>>70563752
This whole post screams reddit, I'm not even going to read it.
If you call episode 1 shit but then continue to pretend that the disney cashgrab had absolutely anything of value then you are a meme fed shill and have no place on this board.
Episode 1 is a bad movie. Episode 7 doesn't even count as a movie at all. It's heavily marketed trojan horse agenda pushing cashgrab with no artistic vision at all.
>>70563770
The plot being contingent on him does not at all justify him being a horribly obnoxious poorly designed and implemented character central to a bad film.
>>70563625
/pol/ disliking Finn is proof their memery gets in the way of good taste.
>>70563890
Because a black character can't possibly ever be bad.
>>70563930
He was the best or second best character in the movie. You don't have to make excuses to hate a black dude
>>70563943
FINN SPINOFF WHEN
>>70563943
Best or second best is not really a compliment in TFA.
His character made no sense. He turned against the guys he grew up with. He felt bad when one of his fellow troopers died in his hands but soon afterwards had no trouble killing them and joining the Resistance. Who the fuck wrote this?
>>70563879
All Star Wars movies are cash grabs, the prequels were just the most blatant about it. Praising the "artistic vision" of episode 1 is deeply embarrassing and you're making a fool of yourself.
>>70563220
thought she was shit magical nigger but she only has ~2 scenes nowhere near jar jar level
>>70564000
The most blatant was Episode 7, considering the saga was fucking over when they made all 6 movies, you dense retard pleb.
>>70563930
Because a black character can't ever possibly be good. You are literally projecting.
My biggest problem with 7 was this: George Lucas gets accused of ripping off better source material all the time (the hidden fortress for example) but he took it and made it his own universe. 7 ripped off Star Wars itself. It managed to be both a sequel and a remake and it just doesn't sit well.
>>70564031
>being this autistic
Who said a black character can't be good?
>>70564000
Episode 1 is the work of an extremely misguided visionary director. Episode 7 is the work of a focus group.
If you think that episode 7 is less of a blatant cashgrab than the prequels then you are the biggest retard on this board.
>>70563991
Killing some dudes in self defense is the same as killing unarmed civilians?
There are people who are indoctrinated into terrorist groups from the time they're children in reality who leave them.
>>70563360
A_____ big guy
>>70563991
I don't think he felt bad that one of his fellow men died, but rather realised how much of a life-threatening situation he was in.
He probably felt worse about gunning down a village of innocent people.
>>70563220
not annoying as jar jar. much less screen time as jar jar
>>70564026
>considering the saga was fucking over when they made all 6 movies
Lol did you think A New Hope was released as "Star Wars 4" in the 70s?
>>70563510
Maybe you're just a lowtest retard.
>>70564101
Yah I guess that's true, maybe his acting was less than perfect in that scene. Or I'll have to watch it again.
>>70563359
>Dance off, Maul! Yousa and meesa!
>>70563879
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
Make me, shitlord.
>>70564112
It doesn't matter. The saga was indeed a cash grab but once it was complete, any new movies in the series were even more blatant cash grabs.
>>70563991
Finn was a disappointment of a character because of the unrealized potential of the turned stormtrooper angle. The fact that there were even the seeds of a interesting character in there puts him above pretty much everybody else in that movie.
she's literally modeled after minions
>>70564152
You're aware George had additional episodes planned since the beginning, right?
>>70564173
Yes but after he made the 6 movies he said repeatedly that the story was over. Until he sold out to Disney.
>that is a story for another time
JJ couldn't be anymore of a hack
>>70564000
>Praising the "artistic vision" of episode 1 is deeply embarrassing and you're making a fool of yourself.
Episode 1 was full of new designs and concepts that fleshed out the universe. Episode 7 literally had nothing other than regurgitating the OT.
>>70564171
dear god your right
>>70564171
She's modeled off that mole man in that Atlantis cartoon movie
>>70564000
Fuck off redditor
>>70564171
I think you are right. On a side note: Do minions ever take off their glasses? Are their eyes assholes? Just wondering.
>>70563991
>who the fuck wrote this
Lawrence Kasdan
J. J. Abrams
Michael Arndt
>>70564240
>Lawrence Kasdan
what happened to you ;-;
>>70564000
Trips of truth.
Get memed on, contrarians.
>>70564282
If your life is just memes no shit you liked TFA.
>>70564282
Prequels = 4chan/right wing
Disney Star Wars = reddit/left wing
You know where to go.
>>70563360
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? YOU HAVE NO TALENT
>>70564271
He wasn't hired to write some labour of love original script. He was given a big bag of money from Disney to re-write the original SW script but updated for modern times. That's it. None of this is original film making. It's all just a big machine.
That doesn't make it good or bad. Just what it is.
>>70564315
Only a Sith thinks in absolutes.
>>70563220
I hated Jar Jar but liked whatever her name was in TFA.
Do we have a problem?
>>70563466
Damn, someone on /tv/ actually got it right for once
>>70563890
based reddicuck
>>70563466
SAND
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>>70563507
the soulless marketing edition of 4
>>70564363
This, desu senpai desu.
>>70561433
>>70564457
shut up sandlover
>>70563220
It was one of my complains. The clash of shit CGI with all practical costumes in the tavern.
But she didn't have as much screen time as Jar Jar so it's not that bad.
>>70564457
>memes
Episode III is the most emotional SW film ever made, so many important themes, legacy left behind, it's a work of art
George did everything he could and created this kino
>>70564423
Yes, you're a hypocrite piece of shit.
See
>>70563640
>>70564594
>it's a work of art
This is where your trolling got too obvious. In order to be successful, there has to be an ounce of truth to it. Obvious silliness never really works well as trolling. Trolling is the art of getting people to freak out, but when it's obvious nobody is caught in the bait. You just jumped the shark here. You let your desire to troll get away from you.
>>70564642
>t. Disney shill
>>70563220
the whole film was absolute shit, all the prequels were shit as well
>>70563519
>IT'S OK CUZ SHE HAD LESS SCREENTIME
It actually is, you know.
If Jar Jar had only 10 minutes of screentime in Episode 1 it would have been fine
>>70564695
>IT'S OK WHEN DISNEY DOES IT
Fuck off shill.
>>70564695
I don't know if it would've been fine, but it would've been less offensive. His presence just didn't make sense throughout the film. If Maz just jumped on a ship and rode along with everybody for the rest of the film, it would've been fuckign retarded.
>>70563466
great b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>70564695
>It's okay when something is bad so long as it doesn't last a long time
Maybe they should have committed to this ethos and made the entire movie 10 minutes long.
I would have spent less time suffering a shitty movie so it would have been better that way, right?
>>70563879
>shill
>>70564674
>shill
>>70564719
>shill
Fuck off, George.
>>70564623
What does Disney have to do with it? Did they do something to you bro?
>>70564777
>>70564792
>moving goal posts
You aren't fooling anyone, kid.
>>70564674
Legitimate accusations of shilling are made weaker by boy-who-cried-wolf motherfuckers like you.
>>70564069
Being a visionary is useless if it's misguided. And for that matter incompetent. See the prequels.
>>70563991
He knew his squad mate but not the total strangers fucking shooting at him such that he had to defend himself, moron.
>>70563422
Literally everything in the prequels is CGI from the sets to the characters. THAT's what people complain about, is that CGI was used as a crutch and the entirety of the movies suffered for it. An actor can only get so motivated standing in front a a giant green/bluescreen for 99% of your shoot.
Even if you judged the P.T by only the scenes featuring Jar Jar and disregarded everything else, that collection of scenes would still have more cinematic value than Disney's New Hope (with added agenda pushing) remake.
Whne I saw Episode 1 I didnt mind Jar Jar. I didn't think he was funny or anything, but to me he was just a character out of his league getting into some hijinks here and there and because of that I still can't hate him like the rest of the fans.
Maz is a much worse character because she literally dissapears and is never mentioned again throughout the whole movie. She's just exposition: the character.
>>70564451
>I'm so addicted to memes it affects my taste
Sounds like Reddit to me bud.
>>70563466
Empire>Jedi>phantom>sith>hope>clone>awakens
By standalone movie; the correct answer is always watching them in order hope>empire>Jedi>prequels
>>70564895
Better to watch a labor of love made by an autistic man than to watch a product assembled by a machine based on trends revealed in phishing data.
>>70564305
>prequelfags screaming cuck and Reddit and shill
>accusing others of liking memes
>>70563466
I respect this list.
4>5>3>6>1>2
>>70563220
She was one of the worse characters, but handled better than anything in the prequels. She didn't fart, or talk with a silly voice, its obvious she wasn't meant to pander to children. And she was barely in it.
You can hate VIII, that's fine. But don't fucking defend the prequels. God damn. I wish no one under 25 was allowed on this site.
>>70565033
Nice dubs and all but I didn't mention one single meme, except for the word meme itself.
>>70565039
>3 better than 6
Surely you jest. I like 3 and all but its not better than 6
>>70565050
You only think the prequels are so bad because either
a) you are retarded
b) you are afraid to disagree with the prequels are bad meme
c) both
>>70563466
This only works if the list is cyclical and starts at 5
>>70565039
III is so god damn bad. Worst dialog of the series, horrible ending that destroyed the lore. Fucking Sheev hamming it up, and the Sheev Yoda lightsaber duel.
Fuck off. VI is an actually good movie. Its only flaw really is the whole Leah being Luke's sister.
>>70565021
Better to watch a decent popcorn space adventure than a poorly acted turd. It wasn't autism. It was just incompetence. having "vision" beyond your skill is called being a pretentious hack.
>>70565050
People over 25 liked the prequels, you dumb millenial sperg.
>>70563879
>I read it to determine if it was Reddit
>lol not gonna read it
>>70565069
They're equal to me. Obviously the throne room is the best scene in all of Star Wars, and I'll go ahead and say on an objective level, 6 is the better movie. I just enjoy 3 more, 6 has many dull points, and while much of 3 is laughable, much of it is also powerful. Good or bad, it's an entertaining watch
>>70565094
>17 year olds actually believe this
>>70565094
Near universally accepted and popular opinion isn't a meme, you dip.
Saying the prequels aren't shit is the meme.
>>70565106
Wtf is Leah?
>>70565066
Except for mentioning my dubs, moron.
>>70565125
Fair enough
>>70565150
Congratulations you didn't spot the joke, confirmed autism.
>>70565094
Universal consensus is the opposite of a meme.
>>70565107
It was a trojan horse of nostalgia baiting and cuckoldry. Well done on being tricked by the marketing but episode 7 is simply the worst blockbuster in decades. Maybe not for the amount of upvotes it gathers per minute from the average normie, but definitely in what it represents.
>>70565150
your dubs? I was mentioning my dubs
>>70565178
universal = literally everyone
>>70565174
>merely pretending
>>70564000
I think that the prequels had tons of artistic vision. There's great amounts of originality, new concepts, new designs, and new characters in them.
The problem is that most of those new ideas were shit and nobody could tell George to stop.
Artistic vision is there, but it wasn't very good artistic vision.
RotJ > ESB > TFA > RotS > ANH > PM > AotC
>>70565208
keep telling yourself that, you are still autistic though
>>70565106
III and VI are both completely underrated in their respective trilogies to be completely honest. In fact I think /tv/ is the only place I've seen where people openly like 3, even before the Sheev meme.
>all these rankings
>forgetting the christmas special
Stay pleb, /tv/.
>>70564040
It'll probably look better once more movies come out. When we look back in 10 years, we'll think "it was a little generic and a throwback, but it needed to reestablish trust in the franchise after twelve years and three rocky movies."
If the new movies are good, that is.
>>70565190
I didn't pay attention to the marketing because I don't watch television. I was "tricked" into thinking it was a half decent popcorn flick by the movie itself.
>>70565249
but it's not canon anymore thanks to Disney
I really didn't care for TFA but on an objective level, it's better than 1 and 2. Whether or not it's more enjoyable than those two depends if personal taste; personally, I prefer the prequels, not the soulless and forgettable 7. Don't get me wrong, 7 is quite flawed, but no matter the merit, the prequels, bar RotS, are far less competently done
>>70565247
I honestly enjoy VI more than any others. If I had to have one to watch, it'd be that one.
>>70564719
No one is saying anything about Disney, sperglord.
>>70565268
The director of Episode 8 said the new movie will be, and I quote, "weird".
>>70565283
>on an objective level
No.
>>70565276
>taking your orders from disney
>>70565211
>Artistic vision is there, but it wasn't very good artistic vision.
And yet bad art still contributes more to cinema than Episode 7's anti-art.
>>70565284
Me too, anon.
>>70565211
There wasn't a great amount of originality, most of it was still drawn directly from the prequels, and the rest from older tropes. What little was original, we agree, was awful. They were irredeemable movies.
>>70565284
Same, I can objectively see V is a better film/story. But I enjoy VI probably the most of the whole series.
>>70565269
Episode 7 WAS the marketing for itself. There was no movie. This product was so pre-sold that they decided that the product itself need not actually exist. You watched a 2 hour long trailer for a nostalgic feeling.
>>70563466I personally would list them differently, but I honestly don't have any major qualms with your ratings
>>70565284
I wish I felt the same way. It has some great moments, but it drags too often for me to watch it a lot. It's underrated for sure
>>70565301
Hopefully weird means good. And by objective, I meant on a technical level
>>70565313
There's some truth to this
>>70565283
>I prefer the prequels, not the soulless and forgettable 7
*get in Delorean
*turn on Flux Capacitor
*set time coordinates for June 7th, 2000
*SSSSSPESHWAWWWWSSHHHH
>I prefer the original movies, not the soulless and forgettable Phantom Menace
>>70565211
The only good things about the prequels are the designs. The CIS scum and ships in I are pretty great. But all the world building and story aspects basically ruined SW.
>>70565417
PM isn't soulless and, while I do prefer the OT, regardless of PM's quality, it's certainly iconic
>>70563220
She was an interesting character with a creative design and original personality, unlike Jar Jar
>>70565430
>basically ruined SW.
In the eyes of the manchildren fanboys who actually thought that star wars had value in the first place.
In the act of alienating the fans with the prequel trilogy Lucas became something of a subversive outsider artist and actually did something interesting for the first time in his career of crowd pleasing.,
In short the tears generated by midochlorians hold more artistic value than anything in George's beloved original trilogy do.
>>70565353
>There was no movie.
Utter nonsense. You're so triggered you're just spouting hysterical bullshit. TFA was a competent if forgettable space adventure. The prequels were frequently cringeworthy and even more blatant merchandizing machines.
>>70565417
I'd rather have decent meal made by a chef who didn't give a shit about me and was just in it for the money, than a turd sandwich made by a retard who thought he was a genius.
That being said, if the prequels or VII didn't happen, I wouldn't care. If only VII happened and Lucas died with us thinking he was legend, that'd also be fine.
>>70565534
>TFA was a competent if forgettable space adventure. The prequels were frequently cringeworthy
Ok, I can agree with this
>and even more blatant merchandizing machines
No. The prequels completely a story. TFA added to that story unnecessarily for no other reason than to make money
>>70565353
You've just forgotten what a money machine the prequels were also intended to be.
>>70565567
>comparing film to a meal
HOLY FUCK YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>70565531
unsubtle / 10
>>70565211
>there's a great amount of originality there
It's just George trying to make his version of Dune and failing.
>>70565614
This, people trying to argue that the PT was some kind of amazing artistic venture when every scene was throwing new characters and concepts to make video games and toys out of is moronic.
Those movies are as toyetic as fucking Batman & Robin, I'm 100% convinced podracing only exists in that movie is so George could get games mad eout of it.
>>70565602
TFA was setting up the sequelogy, which is hinted to get "weird" by which I take to mean somewhat original, while pandering to nostalgiafags.
And of fucking course it's out to make money. I love how some moron up thread compared prequelfags to the right wing even though it's them who seem to hate capitalism and often end up sounding like Chavez.
>>70565534
>TFA was a competent if forgettable space adventure.
So if they made another remake of a new hope that took so few chances that it couldn't escape being deemed "competent" even if it tried, would that still be better than the prequel trilogy or can you only get away with doing that once in your eyes?
Episode 7 "worked" for audiences because it did absolutely nothing other than shoved things in their faces that they already knew they liked. Zero creativity or imagination. I can't think of a movie of that profile that's worse, honestly. It's a con. It does not qualify as artistic expression in the least, even in the confines of an incredibly consumerist series like star wars, which has always been franchise driven product, it stands out for being astounding anti-artistic.
Even the new Ghostbusters looks like more of a movie of its own than Episode 7. That will probably be a very bad movie, but with episode 7 you can't even count it as a movie at all.
>>70565692
>Those movies are as toyetic as fucking Batman & Robin
You know what has some low level of artistic mertic even within a money making framework? Designing a new toy. Episode 7 couldn't do that. Instead you got, "hey, remember this old toy that you used to love that we bought the rights to? Well here it is."
There is no value in taking something people like and then putting it in front of them.
>>70565809
>hey, remember this old toy that you used to love that we bought the rights to? Well here it is."
Even if you didn't like Finn, Rey, Poe and Kylo Ren, you can't pretend people haven't attached to those characters in a pretty strong way.
For all of JJ's faults, the man can direct actors. The new kids were all great.
>inb4 Rey is just Luke!
She really isn't, her character arc and personality is entirely different.
>>70563220
She's only in it for like 5 mins so it's not comparable
She's in two scenes.
>>70565534
TFA was barely a movie. It felt more like watching a group of small children play with action figures, making the plot up as they go along with a cacophony of mouthed "pew pew" noises. There was no character depth at all, the relationships and interactions were all forced. Even the effects were bad. TFA is not only the worst Star Wars, but one of the worst blockbusters I've ever seen. It was worse than that Ninja Turtles movie that came out shortly before.
>>70565974
>TFA is not only the worst Star Wars, but one of the worst blockbusters I've ever seen. It was worse than that Ninja Turtles movie that came out shortly before.
Has contrarianism gone too far?
>>70566003
At least Ninja Turtles had a little character depth. It also didn't insult my intelligence nearly as much.
>>70566003
I also didn't struggle to stay awake in the third act like I did with TFA.
>>70566066
You're a fucking moron. Turtles is absolute trash.
Force Awakens being a Star Wars movie triggers some kind of retarded hysteria in /tv/ critics.
>>70566066
> character depth
> star wars
>>70565894
>Finn, Rey, Poe and Kylo Ren
These characters are all Disney star wars has going for it so far and none of them were very satisfying. Maybe if they had cut out all the Luke/Han/Leia shit they could have made a real movie about those characters. I won't lie, I thought episode 7 was pretty good until Han shows up but then all pretenses of making an actual movie are off.
>>70564082
what the fuck does that even have to do with anything said in this piece of shit thread?
god you newfags with your incoherent meming.
>>70566216
Poe and Finn are only good, but Kylo is great.
>h-hes a wimp bitch
Is not an actual critique.
>>70565268
This. Good post.
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>>70565974
>even the effects were bad
that i have to disagree with.
the effects were the ONLY redeeming part of this cash-in.
>>70566116
Yes. But TFA was even worse. Go ahead, try to defend the premise. Try to defend the retarded third death star with the splitting planet seeking laser that sucks its own star for emergy. Try to defend the entire Republic, all of galaxtic civilization, being wiped out and nobody giving a shit. Try to defend completelt destroying established lore so they could have more characters swinging lightsabers. Try to defend the complete lack of world building, or backstories of any of the characters at all. Try to defend nonsensical jumps between action scenes and forced relationships between characters with no connection. I could keep going, but it's painfully obvious that Ninja Turtles is superior to TFA, and Ninja Turtles was hot garbage.
>>70566388
I could actually debunk most of your post, but I'll just leave you with the thought that you're the only one on the whole planet that thinks Ninja Turtles is better.
Enjoy this comfort.
>>70566383
Sorry, the practical effects were trash. Good cgi is still just bland cgi. Movies are so saturated in cgi explosions that I don't give a shit about them anymore, especially since movies have been doing legit explosions for decades.
>>70564082
For who?
>>70566383
Convincing CGI explosions aren't exaxtly an impressive feat today. Snoke and Maz were the important CGI creations and they looked like shit.
>>70566450
>i could provide an argument, but I actually can't so I am going to just unsult you instead.
And why did fucking Star Wars put so much racism in their movies?
Watto the obvious jew
Nemoidians the obvious Chinks complete with slant eyes
And now we have Finn the Nigger stereotype:
- incompetent at his job
- runs away from his only work
- can't do shit without the white mans help
- tries to hit on and sexually molest the first white girl he meets
> "uuuuhhhhmmmmm ya got a boyfriend at home? ummmmmm got a sexy boyfriend at home? ummmm ugggghhh ..... well.... do ya?
Why the fuck is Star Wars so racist?
I thought it was Lucas being racist at first, but then fucking Disney trotts out this stereotype of a Nigger called Finn.
>>70566484
Exactly. Snoke looked like someone stepped on Gumby.
>>70566460
>the practical effects were trash
wrong
>>70566534
>Bird.webm
>>70566514
Disney was always racist. Lucas used some established tropes to flesh out character, TFA takes it to a new level.
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>>70566484
>>70566460
You lads do have a point about CGI explosions actually. Still, they were quite nice.
As for the snoke and maz looking CGI when being CGI. You can't really get away from that when when using that method. Or did you mean the general design of the characters?
>>70566534
They were. They stuffed really poorly done puppetry in to make us feel nostalgic, but instead they looked worse. I literally laughed in the theater at how awful the practical effects were.
> those first three days where everyone who liked the movie discussed it
feels good
>>70566638
It doesn't matter what method you use. If it looks like trash it looks like trash.
>>70566640
>I literally laughed in the theater
Ha, no you didn't you fucking pussy.
>>70566646
/tv/ was ruined from the start with the dank facsimile meme.
>>70566683
Yes I did. I also fell asleep toward the end. I would have walked out if I wasn't with a friend. He thought the movie was garbage too. In fact the only people I've met who actually like the film are new gen star wars geeks where this is their first exposure to the franchise.
>>70566683
Not that guy but my entire theater laughed uproriously at that fucking bird. I distrinctly remember somebody shouting "worse than jar jar" too.
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>>70566682
Yeah but im wondering why you think they looked trash. If it was the character design or that they looked computer generated.
>>70566738
>Facsimile
Except that is a complete appropriate word to describe TFA.
>bird appears on screen
>theatre bucks begin hooting with laughter
>I bang my anvil to show my displeasure
>>70566762
And that jerky alien riding the beast that cought BB... Just awful.
>>70566765
Both. Although I imagine Snoke could have been done better with makeup.
>>70566811
>>70566765
Thanks for highlighting one of the supidest moments in the film.
Everyone who has already seen the movie and enjoyed it has discussed the shit out of it. Anyone who still makes threads about it is just jaded and bitter that they aren't one of the many, many people who really liked it despite its flaws.
>half a year goes by
>i-im still not a fucking normie!!!! reeee
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>>70566918
np familia, it truly was. I have no idea what planets even got zapped or how the resistance people actually could look up in the sky and see the planets go boom. i mean, if it all happened in the same solar system then couldn't the first order just glass the planet from space, i mean the rebels just had a few xwings for joves sake.
>>70565100
And that makes 3 the worst? Unless you overlooked that detail, you have shit taste.
>>70563220
>advanced 2016 motion capture cgi
>shitty 1990s cgi also jarjar step on poopy and its funny haha
prequelfags need to be gassed
>>70567070
The sky is blue m8
How is it that complete CGI creation Jar Jar and General Grevious still look good to this day but the old minion bitch looked like a bad video game right out of the gate and only looks worse with each passing second?
>>70567070
3 is tied with 2 for being hot garbage as well as ruining Vader forever.
It's a meme movie.
>>70567070
No, it's a loop that repeats itself endlessly and yet 3 is still somehow on the bottom.
>>70567119
>still look good to this day
you didn't even try
>>70567154
You're so dank and your opinions are right, dude.
>>70567119
Because the prequels, for all their shortcomings, at least tried to have some artistic merit. TFA was as souless a cash in as they come.
>>70567119
>Jar Jar and General Grevious still look good to this day
>>70567201
>at least tried to have some artistic merit
Vader is jesus and the most important guy in the entire galaxy.
>artistic integrity
Eat shit.
>>70563220
but she was the worst part of the movie.
>>70565449
PM is extremely soulless. No one has a character, there's no protagonist, the plot is nonsense, and everything is terrible about it in general.
>>70567201
>Because the prequels, for all their shortcomings, at least tried to have some artistic merit.
This is hilariously wrong. Lucas was putting in visual references to the OT apropos of nothing all over the place. His whole mission statement with the prequels was to make as much cash as possible and nothing else.
>>70563220
>dried orange
sensiblechuckle.gif
>>70567463
Outside of lightsaber abuse, PM did stand apart as its own thing though
>>70564000
How were the prequels cash grabs when George Lucas was already filthy rich from the merchandise sales of the original trilogy?
Fuck off you reddit fagggot
>>70563220
>magical negro
dude wtf its a fucking alien lmao
why are you calling it a nigger
>>70567490
That doesn't not make it a soulless cashgrab. Fuck's sake the "romance" in Attack of the Clones should be evidence enough.
>>70567244
Episode 1 introduced new planets, governments, races, cultures, weapons, vehicles, and droids. It established elements of a living world and fleshed out the Republic so that when someonthing was at stake, you actually felt connected to the plot. TFA did none of this, and when they eliminated everything that the previous six films worked toward, nobody gave a shit, and the audience was more preoccupied with how rediculous the new Death Star is to care about characters who's only screen time was getting blown up.
>>70567493
>rich people never want to get richer
Fucking /pol/ retard.
>>70563220
Who're you quoting, newfriend?
>>70567514
It revived a series that didn't need reviving, but it did introduce a plenty of interesting new ideas on its own. Admittedly haven't rewatched it in years but it was a great kids' movie. Same can't be said about the other two prequels.
I never said anything about AotC.
What this thread as established.
>the prequels are shit
>TFA is worse shit
>Disney ruins franchises like it's their job.
Let's all just be happy the original trilogy is something we got to experience.
>>70567515
It introduced new elements to the world but failed to be an actual film, which is more important.
Go play some more videogames kid, this board is about movies.
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>>70567025
also, that color grading toggles my autism. need to make clean, need to make, neutral.
>>70567633
And how is TFA any better?
>>70567625
>TFA is worse than the prequels
Only if you're an ideas guy, a troll, or retarded.
>>70567592
>it did introduce a plenty of interesting new ideas on its own.
"Interesting" doesn't mean good or sensible. Midichlorians are retarded, as is the whole "Jedi take you when you're a toddler" thing.
>>70567683
Or someone who actually has taste in movies, and know that TFA has all the shortcomings of the prequels, except without any creativity.
>>70567625
>TFA is worse shit
>>70567734
>TFA has all the shortcomings of the prequels
Hahaha, no. The cinematography and acting alone blow the prequels out of the water.
>>70567729
>cherrypicking
Although it's not a bad idea in there being some kind of measurable innate talent that can make you a better jedi than others (as unfortunate as the moral implications of this could be, given the young target audience).
>>70567780
No they don't.
>>70567777
But it objectively is a worse film.
>>70567790
>Although it's not a bad idea in there being some kind of measurable innate talent that can make you a better jedi than others
No, fuck this. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." Midichlorians shit on everything Yoda talked about in the OT.
>>70563360
AND WHO. ARE YOU? THE SHIT POSTER CRIED. A FANDOM STILL HAS FANSSSSSS
>>70563493
>>70563587
Yeah, she went to the Resistance base after they destroyed her castle, but these scenes were cut because she didn't really have much else to contribute to the movie in those scenes besides apparently talking to Leia and just sitting around the base looking concerned
>>70567795
Yes they do. There's nothing like Anakin and Padme's wooden romance or the soap opera-esque shot-reverse shot garbage in TFA.
>>70567795
you just have a hate boner for disney.
The cinematography in tfa was outstanding.
The acting was functional and in some cases charming (which is far more than PT ever had) and the dialogue in most cases was not only better written but better delivered.
Was it the best? No. The story was a unoriginal and there were groan worthy moments but it comes out the otherside a 6 out of 10 at best rather than a 3 out of 10 like PT
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>>70567780
most of what i would consider the good cinematography happens on scenes with heavy CGI.
but in ground combat scenes its all very jumbled and that almost gives it a syfy'esque look.
>>70567914
>but in ground combat scenes its all very jumbled and that almost gives it a syfy'esque look.
And this is somehow worse than the cluttered video game mess that was all of the prequels ground combat scenes?
>>70567830
Why not? Yoda doesn't have to be right about everything, for once. Plus it can easily be seen as him trying to manipulate Luke by encouraging him.
