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>biggest movie of all time
>7 years later
>ZERO cultural impact
>barely even referenced at all

How the fuck did this happen?
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>>70560786
>biggest flick of all time
ftfy
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its just space pocahontis
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>>70560786
>ZERO cultural impact
>barely even referenced at all
I disagree with this. People tend to compare cgi movies with Avatar, who they consider the best movie that used that method.
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I still haven't seen it t.bh even though there probably isn't any point to seeing it now
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>>70560786

It was an exercise in 3D and motion capture technology, not storytelling.
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>>70560786
Remember when people forgot about Avatar? It was me James.
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The fuck are you talking about? It started this retarded 3D craze where every movie nowadays is in 3D.
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>>70560786

good marketing
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>>70560823
That's what butthurt haters actually believe.

Cry more.
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>>70560786

>How the fuck did this happen?

Why would anybody cares about blue catpeople?

Maybe if the movie was about colonists sent somewhere, and then some time later an earth military force shows up and disrupts their life?

I don't know. It is hard for people to give a fuck about a movie when the 'good guys' aren't people.
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Ok what recent movie has actually made any cultural impact?
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>7 years later
>still butthurt about The #1 Movie of All Time that changed the cinema forever
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>>70560920
Especially if they were designed to be as marketable as possible.
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>>70560926

Batman Begins and Iron Man 1 together have left us with 8 years of ceaseless capeshit.
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>>70560852
OP is talking about cultural impact. Just compare it with Alien and how it influenced everything.
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>>70560786
Cause a preachy movie on colonialism/military industrial complex derived from other preachy movies on the same subject isn't that big of a deal. Also maybe Cameron will do something more interesting with these sequels that we're still waiting for.
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>>70560961
>pathetic russian chmo trying to become the attention whore by saing contrarian things and posting dumb faces in hopes to get (you)s
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>>70560786
It was last of the Mohicans in space. It was just visuals but otherwise empty. There's a sequel due, so yeah, you'll get to see your precious smurfcats again
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>>70561066
>Waiting for
No one wants sequels, do they?
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>>70560926
That depends what you mean by recent
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>>70560786
The more memes in the film the better. Thats how you judge film. Avatar has so many memes that it transends cultural memerey and land upon god level art memery
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I feel the same can be said of all those big blockbusters post The Dark Knight. Not a single one has had cultural impact. It's all so safe and calculated that it becomes a mirror of current cultural trends rather than becoming a new cultural trend.

Blame focus testing, lowered standards by audiences and social media discouraging risks as everyone is suddenly a critic now.
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>>70560961
(you)
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>>70561026
>Just compare it with Alien and how it influenced everything.
How?
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>>70560920
>It is hard for people to give a fuck about a movie when the 'good guys' aren't people.
District 9.
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The new generations will remember Avatar as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOYtJqgsZMI
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>>70561242
>The new generations will remember Avatar
good one
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>>70560926
refferences are not exactly the influence but here you go
http://alienanthology.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Alien_references_in_popular_culture

Also the influence of Alien can be a topic of scientific research that i will defend some day. but not here
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>>70560786
It really is baffling. Personally, I can't name a single character or quote a line. And I think I've seen it twice.
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>>70560786
>ZERO cultural impact
no 3d movies since?
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>>70561193
I find it ridiculous that fucking Furious 7 is the number 6 highest grossing movie in all of cinematic history. What the fuck kind of cultural impact does that movie have? Absolutely none.

Hell, even Jurassic World just made people remember how great the original JP was instead of leaving a real impact of its own.
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Because it's a garbage movie.
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>>70561297
Don't be silly. You know what OP meant. The 3D fad is more of a marketing impact than a cultural one. I don't know anybody that actually prefers 3D.
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>>70560786
>how
It was the most shilled movie of all time. Plus people got baited with ''revolutionary new technology'' bullshit.
The next one probably won't make half as much
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it did help the 3d boom but avatar is pretty forgotten

i remember whne it was released and we had all these headlines about people being depressed because they wanted to live on the avatar planet and shit
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>implying butthurt
cry more
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>>70560961
You're right. Don't listen to the plebs
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>>70561328
>i remember whne it was released and we had all these headlines about people being depressed because they wanted to live on the avatar planet and shit
I remember that too. But now I'm doubting it's credibility. There seems to be absolutely zero fan base for it anymore, what happened to these people that were inexplicably obsessed with it I wonder.
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>>70561276
>37 year old flick
>modern
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>>70561315
Exactly. Who remembers Furious 7 now? People watched it because it was marketed everywhere and they are familiar with the brand. Same goes for Jurassic World. They go to witness what is already familiar and big shots at the movie studios realize they can't change too much without risking losing the familiarity comfort. And even Star Wars Ep 7 ended up being Episode 4 with some SJW shit added.

This shit won't change until people refuse to watch these over-marketed carefully focus tested rehashes. So this shit will last a good while.
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>make a zillion dollar movie
>put sam worthington as the lead actor

what was he thinking
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>>70560786
I see that image of the leader of the military forces with a long quote in those humanity fuck yeah threads on tg.

Also it was pretty much a metaphor for the shit we got ourselves into the middle east during that time with iraq and afghanistan.

after obama took over nobody really cared about the political message behind it.
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>>70561363
They killed themselves to reach Pandora.
Kinda like Bronies who kill themselves to get to Equestria.
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>>70561384
Ok. how is Lord of the Rings for you?
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>>70561435
That's the other weird thing. Sam Worthington is the lead role in the highest grossing film of all time and he's still a literal who with no career. How the fuck does that work
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>>70560926
fight club
matrix
blair witch project
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>>70561363
Fake hype is the new thing. Corporate interests have hijacked social media and have thus managed to create fake fanbases. There is no marketing class today that doesn't teach you how to utilize social media efficiently. And it often comes out as manipulative and dishonest. It's as you say, there probably wasn't any credibility to those articles. All it takes is a few shills on a forum to make it seem like the fanbase has gone nuts.

Hell you can even see this on 4chan. How many times haven't there been cases of astroturfing here? Social media is the new shit for corporations. They don't spend half as much energy on billboards as they do on social media.
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>>70560786
Because the story was already redone before Avatar.
Why should it have any impact when it does nothing new?
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Thank me.
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>>70561384

"Modern history" began in 1789 with the French Revolution, at the latest. Many historians actually place the date somewhere in the early 15th century, when widespread use of gunpowder first reached Europe.

"Modern art" was a movement that ended in the 1970s, give or take a decade or so.

If anything, a 37-year-old movie ought to be called "postmodern", along with all the movies since.
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Avatar made the most money was because 3D tickets cost twice as much everything else. It didn't really have a bigger audience than most films today.
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>>70560786
In other words, you are asking where are the memes?
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>>70560786

Pocahontas with alien furries.

Blue alien furries.
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>>70560786
Forgettable schlock, it didn't age too well either (seriously, a lot has happened in 7 years the CGI environments aren't impressive anymore)

I'm secretly looking forward to watching the next one in iMax, I'm sure It'll look fantastic
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>>70562173
I just noticed the ear stretching.

So they are all degenerates too.
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>>70561206
there are millions of alien rip-offs
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>>70560786
Good thing you fucks keep mentioning it all the time. Yeah, we know, it's reaaaaly reaaaaly forgotten, nobody remembers it at all.
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>>70562403
What are you talking about? It's rarely discussed here. And talking about how small of an impact a movie had isn't the same thing as a movie having an impact. You're a silly goose.
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>>70560786
It's the same thing with any popular movie.

People who still think that B.O. means anything else than popularity is a complete retard who should consider setting himself on fire while jumping of a skyscraper after cutting his wrists.
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>>70560786
>ZERO cultural impact
Did you miss the eight years where every single movie was rendered in 3D during post production?
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>>70562895
Blue Furries wasn't even the first movie in Digital 3D. That would be this. All GI Jimbo did was get more theaters to convert in order to accommodate his fetish fic.
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>>70560786
It brought back 3D movies (and they pretty much came back to stay). It's cultural impact was meta and technological, not catchphrase worthy.

based cameron.
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Avatar 2 will either be the biggest success for a sequel or the biggest disappointment since X-Men Apocalypse
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I personally barely remember it

I imagine it's the same for many others
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>>70560926
i """"""missed"""""" abatap
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>>70560961
fake abatap pls go
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>>70562195
Movies aren't culture...
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>>70561026
So? It was Cameron, who made it memetic.
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>>70564410
They are a product of culture however. So alien rip offs indicate a shift in the creative thinking of the culture as a whole.
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>>70560786
That's because you live in the age of Internet. Memes grow and die every month of so.
>2008
>The Dark Knight is the biggest thing ever
>I'm s-so serious and shit
>2016
>nobody remembers it
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it's funny how nobody copies star wars either and that one supposedly made cultural impact
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>>70564474
No
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>>70564520
the Star Trek reboot copied the pew pew bits to not make audiences go to sleep.
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>>70564520
>Nobody copies Star Wars
Almost every space battle ever want a word with you.
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>>70561384
Modern cinema started in 1960
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It changed cinema forever by making every god damn summer blockbuster into a 3d shitfest. fuck. I hate 3d so fucking much.
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>>70560786
>mfw the most relatable character in the movie was the "villain"
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>>70564520
Literally every blockbuster is influenced by Star Wars and sci-fi had a resurgence in late 70 thanks to it. Alien and Star Trek are the product of Star Wars success.
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>>70561328
>the 3d boom
That was the worst, and that's still around. Every major studio release has a 3D version because of Avatar. Before Avatar, 3D was more of a novelty even when it was better technology.
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>>70560786
Christmas is now a primary blockbuster season
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>>70564666
Satan is correct.

The impact that Avatar had was purely business related. It made Christmas a major release time, set CG standards, and now every movie is in 3D.
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>>70564632
>Star Trek is the product of Star Wars success
Yes, a series that debuted over a decade before Star Wars surely owes its success to it!
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>still haven't seen Avatar
>liked that videogame it was based on
Should I see it?
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>this is what butthurt haters actually believe

>>70564326
its not the same without him.
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>>70561276
If you talk about Alien and legacy, then you have to mention Jodorowsky's Dune, since Alien has been made by Jodo's Alienteam.


also
>movies, comics and cartoons
>popular_culture
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>>70564743
It does though. It was cancelled during third season and laid dormant for 10 years. They went with a movie in 79 after Star Wars was a monstrous hit. They've spent a shitload of money on it too and involved ILM. Film series wasn't big success, so it took them some time to start Next Generation and that's where Star Trek hit the cultural zeitgeist and became what it is today.
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>>70561498

Because industry people recognize that people didn't go to Avatar to see him. Also he did get work but it was all very mediocre.
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The biggest cultural impact Avatar had was the relevance of worldwide, especially Chinese, box office. It made filmmakers realize that a movie that was easily translated to another language and appealed to the people of that country more could bring in huge returns. That was when they first started talking about worldwide box office
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>>70560926
TKDR
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>>70561242

that was one funny finger family!
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>implying it didn't give millions a furry fetish

they just don't go out and advertise it
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>>70561328
Just go live in the jungle? wtf
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>>70564047
it's gonna be okay
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>>70564410

It also heavily affected our pop culture but yes movies are part of culture you retard.
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>>70562006
It would be interesting to see what the film would make with regular tickets.
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>>70562173
>Forgettable schlock, it didn't age too well either (seriously, a lot has happened in 7 years the CGI environments aren't impressive anymore)
Show me a blockbuster with better use of CGI since Avatar that isn't Gravity.
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>>70564773
Yes, but only the Blu-ray.
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>>70565415
mad max fury road
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>>70560926
the dark fucking knight.
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>>70565450
Not a comparable amount of CGI environments used. They swapped some cars, slapped an orange-teal filter on it and called it a day.
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>>70560926

WITNESS ME
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>>70565455
and isn't fucking capeshit
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>>70565443
What's the difference?
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>>70560786
People still want to fuck Na'vi.
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>>70560786
>Avatar was responsible for reviving 3D, and making Alice a billionaire at the box office
>Six years later, Alice 2 serves as an example of what will happen to Avatar 2, 3, and 4.
>Cameron is going to bleed himself into bankruptcy
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>mfw watching most movies since Avatar overuse CGI in disgusting ways with stale cinematography and disgusting, bloom-ridden blurry shiny CGI shit effects that are obvious greenscreen
You can hate on Avatar's plot all you like, but Jim is an absolutely based visual storyteller.
Avatar was the last good blockbuster
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>>70560926
Inception
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>a movie that was praised solely for its use of cutting edge technology is quickly forgotten once that technology becomes outdated

Duh
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>>70564538
WOW WHAT AN AMAZING ARGUMENT

Fucking retard
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>>70565505
to be honest i think fury road will witness the same fate as avatar does
>dude this movie looks awesome. effects are great even though story is meh
>years pass by without anyone copying it
>feminism/enviromentalism becomes hated by the mainstream
>grrrr i hate this film now
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>>70565581
>/pol/ wishful thinking
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>>70561328

Is the "3D Boom" dying down? I noticed at its height my theater had the same amount of showings for 3D as 2D. Now 3D showings are a third of the 2D showings at my local theaters.

This is for newly released stuff as well.
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>>70565572
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>>70565415
Interstellar
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>>70561433

But R2D2 was sent with a message specifically for Obi, not the rebels. I stopped reading there. Star Wars 7 is just episode 4 is one of those things people say to sound cool and cynical about new popular thing. It did ape off the success of the original series but why stretch the truth to fit your narrative? Nerd culture was a mistake.
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Because James Cameron peddles Happy Meals and nothing more. Unless they give you the shits, you ain't remembering that shit two hours after you've eaten it and broken the toy.
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>>70560865
/thread

The tech got enough hype that it drove the movie's success (I thought it was impressive) even though the movie was shit
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>abatap will never return
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>>70560786

it has a mostly serious tone and the director/writers didnt put in a bunch of 'lol so funny' moments.
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>>70565628
>le ebin MS Paint black hole
Interstellar was mostly models and practical effects. Good effects, but a different kind than Avatar.
Great movie, just as underrated as Avatar by /tv/eddit
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>>70565691
This desu
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>>70565672

Dude he killed himself have some fucking respect!
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>>70560786
Loved Avatar when I was 11.
I'm not underage
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>>70565697
You don't need to justify your shit taste with the ribbit boogeyman, you know
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>>70565813
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>>70565813
he's right though, interstellar is a pretty good movie
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>>70565851
sure if you're popscience imdb drone
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>>70560786
>Culture impact
>From film/movies/cinema/kino/flicks
You guys think this form of media actually has an effect on people. How cute.
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>>70560786

It was all sparkles. Looked amazing but had a stolen premise and flat 1 dimensional characters with a really hammed up lesson.

The technology is the only reason people saw this shit, if it only looked average I'm sure people would consider it to be a mediocre movie.
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>>70565697
>MS paint black hole

That was the first time they actually rendered a black hole properly according to Kip Thorne's (theoretical physicist) calculations. It's pretty damn impressive.
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>>70560786
never watched this garbage. wow, smurfs in space wohooo
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>>70565415
Avatar is pretty much #1 when it comes to CGI characters.
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avatar didn't establish any cultural trends, it simply played off existent ones. See: escapism.
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>>70565996
Kip Thorne is clinically retarded as far as theoretical physicists go
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One of my eyes was damaged right before Avatar came out so I couldn't see 3D. Everyone went on about how amazing it was but I could never experience it. For this I have always hated Avatar. Fucking stupid gimmick movie
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>>70561296
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>>70560786
The die hards died for warcraft
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>>70566351
even though i watched it with 3d i dont remember what it was like today.
it was al-right i guess but i prefer the normal version.
on the topic of missed opportunities, i missed Interstellar and i've been beating myself for it ever since.
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>>70565581
>enviromentalism becomes hated by the mainstream

Not with the way things are going
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>>70560786
It's a good flick, but there are literally no memorable original scenes. Everything is lifted from somewhere, in a clever disguise. So that answers your question, OP.
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>>70566390
He never said any of that.

He is the true human hero though.
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>unobtanium
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>>70561508
It's spooky. We'll never know how many shills are here.
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>>70565996
Go back to fucking red-dit with your popscience.
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>>70566033
Beautiful movie.
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>>70560786
It has the best interstellar spacecraft ever depicted in sci-fi, at least.
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>>70561242
What is this?
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>>70566906
>sci-fi
ayy lamo pocahontas is not fucking scifi
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>>70566906
check out "The Expanse" it has some pretty good ship porn.
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>>70565559
That is partially because nobody wanted a sequel to Alice and if they did, it was three to four years late to the game.

I believe that Cameron will be able to somehow hype up the sequel of Avatar enough that people will go to watch it.
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>>70560926
Fury Road
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>>70561328
They sit and wait on their little forums, jacking off over the movie and discussing the same fucking things over, and over, and over, waiting for the little hope of something new.

Kinda like Harry Potter fans these days.
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>>70560786
>zero cultural impact
Neytiri is the reason why i jerk off to cherrycrush at least 4 times a week
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>>70568013

When we say "Culture" we're not talking about the ones that live under your foreskin.
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>she will never b ur qt gf
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>>70568053
what for example has the Alien franchise contributed to our "culture"?

i think you're confusing culture with memes
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>>70568053
holy hell
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>>70560786
things i remember:

>planet was called pandora
>unobtanium
>Sigourney Weaver was in it
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>>70568053
damn
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>>70568138
>implying culture isn't memes
I wish people wouldn't use terms they don't get.
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>>70560786
This is the movie that exists to fill this conversation.
>I think I might watch avatar again
>the movie?
>no the cartoon.
There is no other reason it is brought up ever.
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>>70568220
I remembered one of those
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>>70560786
>ZERO cultural impact
furries are more popular than ever
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>>70560786
Because anyone who thinks avatar was ground breaking is delusional.

The first film with audio was ground breaking, the first good film with audio was just a good film. Even then the average pleb couldn't tell you which was the first film with accompanying audio because it's not relevant to the cultural concious.

Avatar didn't do anything new technologically, it just did existing things really well for its time, it pushed boundaries but it didn't manage to actually pop the bubble into something new.

On the other hand it's probably still way too soon to tell, wait till a decade after the fifth movie and that'll be the true test of its cultural longevity.
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>>70560786
It's because it doesn't offer anything new in terms of plot, story, characters, setting etc. It's just a pastiche of shit already in film.
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>>70560786
it was just a fad mate. Basically normal people got to experience /v/ tier escapism for a short period of time
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>>70568267
so basically this thread is "ABATAP DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MAYMAYS, THEREFORE IT BAD".
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>>70568053
Fuckin' 10/10
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>>70567292
Go back to Red-dit.
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>>70568675
Go back to cucking red-dit.
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>>70569572
>>70569500

subtle
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>>70568053
Heh
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>>70569500
Rawr I don't like opinion! >:3
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>>70568874

For a long time, and really even today, xenomorphs became the pinnacle of science fiction horror, thanks in no small part to H.R. Giger's designs and illustrations. Ripley herself is pretty often cited as a compelling example of a quality female lead, the movie definitely cemented her place in Hollywood. The atmosphere crafted in the first movie is fairly well done horror, and the second movie is a pretty fantastic action movie. I think it also exposed more people to the body horror and biomechanical style of Giger which likely influenced many other artists to come.

Avatar was a feature length commercial for new CGI technology. The Na'vi are about as well regarded as Ewoks, maybe even less so. The plot was basic, the execution was basic. Its main claim to fame is how much money it made. It has had zero influence on culture. No actors have been established, launched, or lauded. No characters are cited as examples of note. It did nothing for science fiction or cinema beyond how much money it made. It is an impressive thing by itself, of course.
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Avatar was awful it's like a video game wtf
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>>70570192
It was a fun, comfy movie with great music and effects. A journey. So go fuck yourself with your autismal hate on Avatar, go watch capeshit if you need a forced cinematic universe with tieins and marketing obsession.
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>>70570617
lmao dude why are you even in this thread if you love avatar so much but still can't say more than "it's fun and comfy"?
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>>70560852
>who they consider the best movie that used that method.

I've literally never met a single person who thought Avatar had even close to the best CGI. What are you talking about? I think you have aesthetics confused with CGI.
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>>70570617
>implying avatar isn't red and yellow at the same time
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>>70570617
Frozen isn't an adaptation

And if it is, so is Titanic
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>>70570617
>not adjusting for inflation

if you adjust for inflation the top 10 is much greener
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>>70564507
>nobody remembers TDK
bait
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>>70566033
>>70566835
What do you think the next big movie with similairly "groundbreaking" special effects will be?

I mean it's been seven years, something cool has to be in the works considering what a monetary success avatar was.
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>>70565608

Yeah man, 3d was useless, darken my shit up senpai.

Avatar was the film that failed to usher in a new era of 3D cinema, that's why it's legacy has been so diminished.
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>>70570955
smellovision when
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>>70560786
>>ZERO cultural impact

If it was released 10 years earlier it'd have huge cultural impact.
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>>70566351
I watched it twice. First time I went to see the movie with a headache like a retard and had to take painkillers for the next three days just to get out of bed in the morning. Second one was okay.

Never watch 3D with a headache.
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>>70570955
Avatar's sequels will be shot and rendered in 48fps, but will actually have good CGI unlike The Hobbit when they tried it.
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>>70571466
>Sully's face in the background
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I've been thinking a bit about the things you could work with in the avatar setting, you got:
>cyberpunk earth (the scenes from earth in the extended edition looks like generic cyberpunk)
>earth is (possibly) dying and the only thing keeping humanity alive is the shit their mining on pandora (would seem strange that a private company is mining it however, unless the governments on earth are defunct and replaced with megacorps)
>interconnected biology (maybe) controlled by a global intelligence
>if so, the na'vi may or may not have a free will and are just controlled by what they regard as a god

there are a lot of interesting things to work with, It's sad they went with such a shit plot.
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>>70560786
it's not a movie, it's a tech demo
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>>70560786
I was fifteen when I saw this in theaters. I remember the night vividly because it was also the night I got my first tattoo; my uncle took me to see it afterwards and we both laughed at the retardedness and price of 3D and saw it in regular. We both said we didn't think it was very good. I remember him telling me he was rooting for the general guy the whole time and both of us cracking up at the giant tree falling down. I remember that Mexican chick dying and basically nothing else. When I returned home so many other kids in school said they loved it and saw it multiple times. I haven't seen it since then, is it worth a rewatch?
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>>70560879
I'm happy someone is still trying to keep this alive
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>>70571466
really? i heard it all got canceled
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>>70560926
>Napoleon dynamite
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>>70560853
Interesting creature design and nice aesthetic. Its worth playing in the background.
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>>70560961

come back
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>>70560786
>Up to today the CGI of avatar still hasn't been surpassed
absolutely based cameron
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>>70565656
And Obi Wan was supposed to give the data to the Rebels. It's okay if you liked it but to really believe the new SW had an even an ounce of originality makes you either a retard, blind fanboy or a shill.
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>>70560786
Because when people think of that story they immediately think of PocaHontas because that is literally all it is
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>>70570812
>Frozen isn't an adaptation
Suuuure it isn't. Just like all their other original movies. oh wait...
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>>70572482
>Interesting creature design and nice aesthetic. Its worth playing in the background.

It's a horse, with 6 legs!
It's a Jaguar, with 6 legs!
It's a giant Rhino, with 6 legs!
They're monkeys, that laugh like hyenas, and they have 6 legs!
Not-Pterodactyls!
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>>70560926
There are these indie guys that make quite an impact with their work, I think they go by isis but obama calls them isil for some reason.
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>>70572442
you heard from where?
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>>70561508
I have no evidence and probably never will but i believe this is the case. Specially from all things disney.
Yeah, some bullshit like john carter or tomorrowland flop, but the things that matter (marvel, star wars) are always rated better than they really are and are shilled to death (I know its fucking star wars and it was bound to get a lot of media coverage but still it was obviously shilled in social media).

I do believe they are now making sure dc shits and stuff (see BvsS) get assblasted.
Dont get me wrong, I am no DC fanboy abd the movie its not good by most standards, but its not a fucking 27% in RT.

Maybe Im just a paranoid faggot, but one would think if you have a tool like social media, and you can harness it to improve the box office of your films (something that seems kinda cheap to do, comparing it to other marketing stategies), well... you fucking would.
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>>70564507
TDK had huge impact. Every grimdark movie, and all those realistic adaptations of things, from ultra realism to just not-as-campy-as-the-original kinda shits are the bastard children of TDK.
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>>70564586
It was literally the only good use of 3d in cinema. It was the only one time it actually added something to the film.
Everything since simply sucked.
So yeah, fuck 3d.
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>>70560786
I have still never seen a movie as visually great as Avatar, the plot wasn't original or good but you can't deny it was visually pleasing
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>>70564739
It changed the business model in many ways, so yeah.
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>>70567844
The marketing campaign will have to be huge and very effective. If he can pull some new cool gimmick he'll probably get good results. The guy is the man when it comes to making effective blockbusters, is what michael bay dreams to be.
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>>70561433
People watched Furious 7 because Paul Walker died. No other reason.
Box office numbers don't mean shit when the majority are fucking plebs that will go watch a terrible movie simply because an actor in it is dead.
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>>70561972
Fuck historians. We're going by the actual fucking definition of the word and nobody gives a fuck about French historians.
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>>70560786
I really enjoyed it, but it was an unoriginal story about hot space smurf native americans - it was never going to be a major cultural landmark.
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>>70560879
Underrated post
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>>70560786

People still talk about the effects, its just nobody gives a shit about the story because its already been done
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>>70565571
This
https://youtu.be/830I9w7I7wM
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>>70575563
fucking hell.
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>>70573260
>Suuuure it isn't
Adoption of what?
>Inb4 no reply again
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>>70575563
This has been subconsciously fucking with me every time I watched a new trailer and I had no idea why. Thank you for helping me figure it out.
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>>70575563
That's just the good old orchestra hit, definitely older than Inception
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>>70560879
9/10
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It fuckin sucked
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Name one good thing about the movie other than it's beautiful looking.
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>>70565608
Yea it's been dying for a while. Most movies don't benefit from it at all.
The ones that do use gimmicky bullshit like stuff flying at the camera in slow motion, which actually pulls you out of the movie rather than immersing you. Also 3DTV's flopped hard.
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>>70577191
I got my first handjob from your mother when i went to go see Avater with her
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District 9 came out around the same time and had much better CGI on a fraction of the budget.
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>>70566669

We're animany!
Totally Insany!

Unobtaniiiium!
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Kind of feel the same about Harry Potter
Enormously popular but seeems like it had zero cultural impact after the films were released

The Simpsons did a potter parody (though it was with a girl wizard). Other than that it doesn't seem like anyone cares about it
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>>70560786
This movie has gone much further than any other before it to promote blue bodies rights and plights. You have this movie to thank for for the current incarnation of x-men and the cult classic film the smurfs where blue bodies are finally able to play the leading characters, be it as protagonistic or antagonistic fasion.
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>>70560786

It was just fern gully in space
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>>70560786
Not enough transgender characters
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>>70575606
The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen you fucking mongoloid

Admittedly as vaguely as Avatar is an adaptation of Pocahontas, but that is the story Disney said it was based off
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