Was Goldeneye and Casino Royale the best bond movies?
no.
>>70431046
On her majesty's secret service
>inb4 muh one hit bond
>>70431067
Why?
Definitely up there. I think From Russia With Love might be the best.
Got a lot of time for the Dalton movies as well.
>>70431113
just kidding, they are and Skyfall too.
Probably not, you just remember Goldeneye fondly because you're an insufferable le 90s kid who worships the video game, and because Casino Royale revitalized the franchise and was so much better than the previous couple of movies.
I'd be lying if I said those weren't my two favorite though.
>>70431046
Goldeneye was good but Casino Royale i thought was much better
>craig
>bond
>>70431576
youre not me!
>>70431113
because others are better
>>70431046
Goldeneye was great. When Bond drives that tank through the wall and the theme kicks in...fucking joyful cinema.
>>70431046
Yes.
Casino Royale because of the intro alone.
>>70432155
>Cast as the fictional British secret agent James Bond in October 2005, his first film in the role, Casino Royale, was released internationally in November 2006.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>70431695
Even without the tank scene it's one of the best bond movies.
>>70431046
No.
Dr No and OHMSS were.
>>70431695
GoldenEye has aged really well.
shut the door alec theres a draft
ALEC?
>>70431576
Skyfall has too many plot holes and a ridiculous home alone ending
>>70431046
> For England James?
>>70431046
>brosnan and craig
>best
>good
>>70431046
Goldfinger > FRWL > Dr Meme > Casino Royale > Goldeneye > You Only Live Twice
Connery and Craig are the only good Bonds. Brosnan had potential but his films sucked
>>70432558
ah the "home alone" meme.
>Bond movie
>plot holes
Gee what a surprise!
>>70432659
>Connery and Dalton are the only good Bonds.
FTFY
>>70432736
>Dalton and Moore are the only good Bonds
FTFY
>>70432736
>>70432775
Kill yourself
>>70431046
GoldenEye is one of the best, Casino Royale is overrated trash
The best Bond film is From Russia with Love, personal favorite though is Licence to Kill
>>70432736
>Connery and Dalton the best
Correct
>>70432804
>overrated trash
>>70432794
>not loving Dalton
kys
>>70432638
No, for you
>>70432837
QoS is criminally underrated 2bh
>No one has mentioned the truest Bond-kino
>reminder plebs will never realize that the books are dark and serious stories and not light-hearted
>reminder plebs only want ""fun"" bond with stupid over-the-top gadgets that Reddit would probably come up with
>reminder that plebs will never realize how Craig captured the tone of the books fantastically, especially Casino Royale
>>70431046
What makes Casino and GoldenEye so good is that it isnt action scene after action scene as what QoS was.
It has a slowish second act yes but we get lots of character development and a rich plot
>>70432906
Fucking this
Casino Royale was honestly the best Bond film since the Connery era
>>70432906
t. pleb
From Russia with Love is undoubtedly the greatest 007 movie. If you contest this you are a giant fucking pleb.
It has the perfect combination of good dialogue, location, it's one of the few bond films that actually deals with espionage, and it has great action scenes that aren't over the top like GoldFinger was.
It was basically real James Bond before he became a huge action movie hero with Goldfinger. I still like Goldfinger but From Russia is still the GOAT.
>>70432902
It's decent, has its moments. Definitely better than Octopussy
>>70432837
he's probably just mad his bond isn't """"fun"""" anymore. ignore the redditors.
>>70432897
I know it is.
https://youtu.be/z7kFoR4m1Y0
>>70432906
>film franchise spanning half a century with 20 films
>beloved character defined by connery and moore
B-but muh serious books!
>>70432987
>literally no climax
>film just ends
Why do people say this is the best? Are they just being contrarian for the sake of it?
>>70432906
Casino Royale is the only movie that follows one of the books page by page yes but all of us oldfags grew up with the gadget error.
THAT is the past that we know and will always be remembered as the golden era. But Craig's Bond is still cool.
why are craigfags so obnoxious?
>someone mentions that don't like Casino Royale or Skyfall
>PLEB
>LE BORN IN THE WRONG GENERATION
all of you, kill yourselves
>>70432987
My top 5 no doubt
>>70433041
After Austin Powers and Die Another Day, change was necessary.
>>70431046
Not even close.
Goldfinger is my favorite.
>>70432397
>2006 was 100 years ago
Kms
>>70433136
I still own the cassette soundtrack
I tried watching The Spy Who Loved Me the other day and had to give up on it. It was just the same shit over and over: Bond goes to meet guy, guy is about to be murdered/ has been murdered / hired someone to murder him, action sequence ending with shitty one-liner, repeat from step one.
>>70433157
>9/11 was 15 years ago
>>70433019
Was she the most beautiful Bond girl?
>>70432241
the soundtrack was easily the best
>>70433168
I have the movie on 4 different formats.
God I'm old.
>>70433097
They're less obnoxious than the petty Bond "experts" that somehow feel like they think they know what Bond should drink or how much chest hair he has.
>>70372618
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/bond%20girls%20laughing/
autism.
>>70433187
I think it's okay, but the pacing is pretty bad and Barbara Bach can't act worth a shit, her "Russian" accent comes and goes too
Even so, it sounds like you just don't enjoy the Bond formula, for which I pity you
>>70433205
I like Lea a bit more but Olga still was top-tier.
Gemma was also great.
>>70433359
That's entirely possible. I've been trying to get into the series, and I really did like Dr. No, but maybe that was just a one-off deal.
I have nothing against action sequences and cheesy zingers, but when your entire film is nothing but that (or at least, the first hour since I can't vouch for the second half) it just gets trite.
>>70433284
>They're less obnoxious than the petty Bond "experts" that somehow feel like they think they know what Bond should drink or how much chest hair he has.
How so? Anything is better than craigfags who sperg out whenever anyone has an opinion that differs from their own
inb4
>oh you like quipfests maybe Marvel movies are more your speed lol XD
>>70431105
The only correct answer
>>70431046
You know when you think about it, little more than a third of the Bond films are actually worth watching.
>From Russia With Love
>Goldfinger
>You Only Live Twice
>On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>Living Daylights
>License To Kill
>Goldeneye
>Casino Royale
>Skyfall
The rest are forgettable fluff, like say Tomorrow Never Dies, or outright crap like the entire Moore era.
>>70431046
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CbFAZ2ztlE
Best Bond theme coming through.
>>70433510
>doesn't include Dr No
Otherwise solid list
>>70433510
Enough with this shit, they're all worth watching at least once if you like James Bond
>>70433601
Craigfags are gonna fag...
>>70433510
MOONRAKER ASSHOLE !
>>70433650
Moonraker is objectively the worst film in the franchise.
James Bond should never be in space.
>>70433650
Roger Moore's best IMO. Incredibly dumb in many ways, but also one hell of a roller coaster ride and infinitely rewatchable. Not to mention that Hugo Drax is a god-tier villain
>>70433715
>James Bond should never be in space.
But anon, what if they're still making 007 movies when space travel is commonplace?
Eventually it would start to get weird that he WASN'T in space.
>>70433715
Why do people act like he spends the entire movie in space? Have these individuals actually watched the film?
>>70433489
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/bond%20girls%20laughing/
>>70433650
>>70433750
>>70433783
>>70433812
You have to be mentally ill to repost that over and over and over and over
>>70433510
Only Bond movies worth watching:
Dr. No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The Living Daylights
License To Kill
GoldenEye
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World Is Not Enough
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
Skyfall
Spectre
>>70433852
First rule of space battles should be that each side has different colored lasers.
>>70433812
Dedication only a true fan would show.
>he doesn't like Brosnan
laughingbondgirls.flac
>>70433852
I like that scene, it's actually a funny parody of the underwater battle from Thunderball
>>70433783
Yes. Why the fuck are you defending it?
Not a big bond fan, but goldeneye is probably my favorite.
Some of the old ones are quite good from what I remember. All the new ones suck ass. Just doesn't feel like bond movies.
>>70433885
TWINE, Quantum and Spectre are objectively bad movies.
90s kid pls
>>70433852
It just isn't the same without the sounds.
>PEW PEW PEW
>HNNGG ARGH
>>70433981
Because I like it. Moonraker is actually a far better Bond spoof than any of the Austin Powers movies, works because its mostly unintentional
>>70433885
>Quantum of Solace
>Skyfall
>Spectre
Those aren't worth watching at all. Especially spectre, wtf is wrong with you.
>>70434019
Quantum is only okay.
>>70434096
They are. You may not like them, but they are well made films and are not complete dogshit like a lot of the this franchise's films are (A View to a Kill, Die Another Day, etc).
>>70434096
Skyfall was ok
Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace are the worst Bond movies.
>>70433812
I wish the craigfag autists only posted a bit of greentext with an image, it would make them far less annoying
is Spectre that bad? I just downloaded it
>>70434209
>A View to a Kill
>dogshit
opinion filed under "trash"
>>70434096
Skyfall is great, eat a dick
>>70434299
Fantastic Cinematography, weak story.
If you have a short attention span you'll be bored. But that's the movie's fault.
Cinematography alone is what makes it worth it. It's also rather funny.
7/10 for me. Skyfall was much better.
>>70434209
I enjoyed die another day better than skyfall, because it actually feels like a bond movie.
>>70434414
ok. Enjoy the "silly" and "over-the-top" bond that Ian Fleming would be disgusted by.
>>70431046
yes
>>70434209
The costume design in Skyfall was /fa/ as fuck
>>70434299
Spectre might actually be the worst bond movie ever made. It tries to reintroduce older, campy villains, but does this completely straight-faced. Waltz was completely miscast and wasted on this movie. The plot is extremely boring "dangers of the digital age" dreck.
>>70434590
Die Another Day was much worse.
-Live and Let Die is awesome because it's so weird
-On Her Majesty's Secret Service because of goat ending
-Skyfall because it looks gorgeous
-Casino Royale because that Vesper
-For Your Eyes Only because of pistachios
>>70434521
I couldn't care less about what Fleming would think, I've actually tried to read the books but I can't stand his prose.
>>70434665
Die Another Day was great.
>>70434724
Was that the one with the fucking space laser? That was pretty bad too.
>>70434759
That's the one.
I loved it, because it was the most stupid one by a long shot.
>>70434665
DaD was over the top, had flaws, but was still enjoyable. Spectre has nothing enjoyable, except for nice cinematography.
>>70434682
now this is correct.
>>70434414
>feels like a bond movie
Why do you hate change? Do you just want endless shitty and lazy rehashes?
>>70431695
>I agree with you but fuck off
This fucking board
>>70434884
>complains about lazy rehashes
>lazily copy bourne movies and call it bond
>>70434884
>Why do you hate change?
Yeah anon I totally agree. The new 007 should be a romantic comedy with a mostly all female black cast.
>>70431695
>this post again
Get lost, you cunt.
Anyone that ranks Goldfinder or any Moore film as the best is a massive pleb.
GoldenEye and License to Kill were the best.
>>70431105
dreadful pacing, though
>>70435036
some people are mature enough to like something and accept that it isn't the best
>>70435087
>Goldfinder
Ah fuck. I'll go away now.
>>70435111
>muh 90s nostalgia shitposting
Real fucking mature.
>>70435137
sorry i responded to the wrong person
>>70434944
some people are mature enough to like something and accept that it isn't the best
>>70435021
not that kind of change you dipshit, I'm talking about tone.
>>70434960
nice meme!
>>70435087
>>70435114
you're right though. Moore was crap.
>>70434713
That's his charm though.
>>70434521
Fleming is a hack, nobody cares.
>forgetting the best Bondkino
Ironic, isn't it, Smithers. This anonymous clan of slack-jawed troglodytes has cost me the election, and yet if I were to have them killed, I would be the one to go to jail. That's democracy for you.
>>70433284
Nobody's ever argued over how much chest hair Bond should have. The important thing is that he has chest hair because he's a man's man, unlike Craig who looks like a little girl.
>>70435734
That's not the reason Craig is a bad Bond.
Craig is just a thug in a suit, it doesn't fit the idea of the character.
>>70435787
That's the main reason, sure, but there are countless others.
>>70435787
He's the best in terms of the Novel accuracy.
Stay mad.
>>70435888
nobody actually gives a fuck about the novels, let's be honest here.
>>70435734
did you not click the post he linked?
>>70435914
The movies are hackneyed cash grabs manufactured to appeal to Baby Boomers.
They made bond into a needlessly silly character and raped Fleming's artistic vision.
I'm glad the people in charge of Bond finally made into what he should be.
20 movies of a bad adaptation isn't enough for you? that time is over and done.
>>70431046
I'd say nothing has topped Tomorrow Never Dies since it was released.
>>70432906
The books were always, ALWAYS, terrible. Seriously go read one now and find out for yourself.
>>70436480
t. pleb
>>70433650
>moonraker
I remember liking it as a kid but I watched it like a year ago and it was painfully boring and stupid. The only bond movie that is worse is skyfall.
>>70436480
Fleming is an awful writer, vague about important scenes which make it difficult to discern what is happening, and needlessly descriptive about shit that we don't care about like someone's cuff-links or how sweaty they are.
That aside, the books are the books and the movies are the movies. People who bash films because they aren't similar enough to the books? Autism
>>70436902
Movies were mostly horseshit too after Goldfinger and didn't get better until The Living Daylights.
>>70437118
I disagree, all of the Connery films are great except DAF, and OHMSS is excellent.
The Moore films are mostly shit, entertaining shit though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKkQE0bmre0
>>70437118
>>70437194
Moore was the best Bond after Connery. Stop being so blatantly contrarian.
>>70433041
>>70435544
>>70435914
>>70436480
>>70436902
>the new movies should respect the classic movies! how dare they be different! Craig isn't bond!!!!
>fuck the source material! fuck the man who invented bond! Bond should be what I WANT AND NO ONE ELSE!!!
>>70437623
it's sad that you actually think this is logical
>>70437623
who are you quoting?
>>70437509
Moore's films were cringe worthy crap and this is widely agreed upon opinion among people that have taste and can put nostalgia aside.
>>70437711
nice meme.
>>70437623
>Bond should be what I WANT AND NO ONE ELSE!!!
and you're different how? fucking craigfag sperg
>>70437823
Craig is what Fleming would want.
>>70437875
whatever you need to tell yourself to feel like your opinion is superior, sperglord
>>70437875
Yeah, I'm sure Fleming would love the blue-collar angry manlet Bond with blonde hair. He was actually mad about Sean Connery because he thought he didn't look enough like the character, what do you think he'd say about Daniel "Mr. Potato Head" Craig?
Also it's pure speculation, unless you claim to be able to speak to the dead. I've read the books, and at no point did I feel like Craig embodies the literary character
>>70438040
>>70438168
>>70438168
>at no point did I feel like Craig embodies the literary character
You haven't watched Royale?
>>70433510
>>70433885
>both Dalton movies are in and nobody is arguing
That's it I guess, the dust has settled. Dalton is the GOAT Bond.
>>70438391
Royale is over-rated.
>>70438391
I have, and while the plot follows the book more-or-less, Craig's take on the character isn't particularly similar to the Fleming version. Appearance aside, Craig acts like just another American action hero, the sophistication and fastidiousness of Fleming's Bond just isn't there.
At least with previous film versions of Bond they usually tried to have scenes where he displays how cultured he is, like determining the age and brand of a certain scotch. Craig's Bond, in contrast, drinks Heineken and hangs out on the beach to show off his muscles.
I can only imagine the mental gymnastics it requires to actually make yourself believe that Fleming would like Daniel Craig
>>70438550
it's true
>>70438550
Anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong
Also Pam is best girl
Tomorrow Never Dieswas the last best Bond film.
Not to say Goldeneye wasn't good, it really was. I think the concept of the USSR collapsing but elements of its military establishment remaining and helping a former MI6 agent was GOAT
>>70441190
I hate TND, it's just an inept retooling of the Lewis Gilbert films. TWINE is much better, and the last good Bond film
>>70431046
The first three and Casino Royale are the best. The rest are hit and miss. I still haven't seen Spectre.
I have a soft spot for You Only Live Twice, even if some of it is incredibly stupid.
>>70438562
that's not what I was entailing. but you're wrong.
>>70438601
damn you're autistic
>>70443207
>You Only Live Twice
I couldn't stop laughing at the part where they made him look japanese.
>>70443207
YOLT will always be my favorite. Tiger Tanaka is awesome, as is Donald Pleasance as Blofeld
>>70432987
This
!!ATTENTION!!
IF YOU LIKE ANY BOND MOVIE AFTER CASINO ROYAL
YOU ARE LITERALLY A REDDIT PLEBEIAN WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT FILM MAKING
>>70443439
nice rebuttal
