So I've finally seen both Civil War and Batman v Superman, and WOW. I simply cannot believe the poor reviews BvS is getting. It's not a great movie but a solid high 7 low 8 movie. It's like they expect it to be the marvel films, bubbily and "lite" and stuff (which isn't bad), whereas BvS and Man of Steel were completely different types of movies, going for different themes/genres.
Man of Steel and BvS, and it seems most of the rest of the DC lineup, are like that newly formed comic imprint getting their run of things for an overarching plot or two, or a new bigwig getting the reins. It happens all the time with comics and it's basically what the industry lives on. That's kinda what happened with the X-Men movies series.
Anyways, my mind was just boggling that people were rating it down so low for what I frankly thought were overly picky or expectation-based quibbles.
Peace.
>>70072744
Woah...
So this...
Is the powah...
Of cuckoldry...
The Ultimate Cut will be incredible and UNJUST the movie in many people's eyes.
>restored plot cohesion
>enhanced characterization for more satisfying narrative arc
>Fixed editing, flow and pacing.
>>70072831
OH FUCK. I think you were being sarcastic but that sounds fucking awesome.
>>70072744
It gets better with multiple viewings.
http://imgur.com/a/foSdR
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>>70072744
Thanks for sharing, OP. I thoroughly enjoyed it, too and rate it about the same as you.
I really have high hopes for the Director's cut.
>>70072744
>>70073876
Yeah, I second this. There's a lot there to pick up.
>>70073924
I hope they fastforward the solo CIA kino.
It could save the DCEU.
>>70074098We all know it's how it should have ended.
>>70072744
"Is it really surprising that the most powerful man in the world should be a figure of controversy?"
>>70074670
>3 years later
>still mad
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/sun%20super.jpg/
Just found out about these. Reading them right now.One thing's already been confirmed.
http://imgur.com/gallery/3Lb3d
>>70074779
Movie tie-in comics are almost always terrible, so don't expect much.
>>70074829
>Movie tie-in comics are almost always terrible, so don't expect much.
They're actually really good IMO
>>70074717
>anon searches image.jpg
>coz his brain has no other opinion
>MKEK triggered
>>70074907
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/cera%20insulting.jpg/
>being a DCuck
>in 2016
>>70074779
There's 5 prequel comics for BvS & 1 for MoS
>>70074964
Yup, I knew about MoS's. It contains what I'm thinking might be the DCEU's explanation of metahumans,which is awesome.
>>70074930
>3 years
>2 months
>anon is still mad
>anon's insecurity level is way over 9000
>>70075024
Why?
The DCEU is crumbling away.
Your standards are disgustingly low then.
8/10. That's 80%. That's like an -A.
BvS had outright continuity errors and a few instance of a complete absence of much-needed explanation.
No movie with those qualities (unless otherwise PERFECT) could get any higher than a 60%. Even 60% entails a movie better than the average and well worth watching. There are a lot of "classics" that are in that range.
I'd give movies like predator or commando, big fun stupid action flicks, a 7-8/10, but even they were far far better made. A flashy shot isn't necessarily a good one.
>>70075043
>>3 years
>2 months
>2 days
>still mad
>>70072793
That's not cuckldry, that's patricianism.
Cuckoldry is liking marvelshit
>>70072744
DC stands for Damage Control, right?
I think it's kind of like Watchmen, where it suffers for being representative of a medium where completely reading and letting it sink into your mind takes hours, days, even weeks. Honestly Civil War suffered from many of the same problems. It tried to bring real-life consequences into a world where people wear stupid suits and punch other people in stupid suits. This is magnified in MoS and BvS because it's an inherent feature of their worldbuilding, with striking scenes of violence and uncomfortable emotions, whereas Civil War had like 10 movies to establish a world where the heroes always win, no one of any importance really dies and the power of friendship can win the day. When Disney!Marvel tries it, it comes off as hollow and fake.
As for boring, well again it's merely a matter of editing and pacing. Civil War has I'd wager just as many minutes of people sitting around and talking, but the action scenes seem more exciting by comparison because of quickly cut edits, quips, and variety.
Civil War has "fun" in terms of lightweight action with no consequences. In BvS every action has a consequence. Batman shreds people with his Batmobile's machine guns.... It makes the audience uncomfortable compared to his usual restrained violence. It serves a thematic purpose. Tony Stark uses his fight prediction program to beat Capn... it has no consequence except the writers needed it to happen somehow for the "dramatic" ending.
BvS takes its time with its shots, and allows things to sink in. The first funeral scene lingers on every emotional step, from Bruce running away to his fear in the cave and his psychological overcoming of that fear. The first scene in Civil War is the heroes quipping over a poorly-developed villain-shout-out-reference-number-118 and punching him.
You'll remember things like the crypt popping open with the Manbat or Clark ramming Doomsday more than you'll remember the time spiderman like totally owned that guy by tangling up his legs.
>>70075163
You are a DCuck, your ''opinion'' holds no value to anyone.
>>70075089
So much wrong I don't even know where to start...
I think a lot of it comes from Rotten Tomatoes review system. Critics either recommend it or they don't. Rotten or fresh. You can't really recommend BvS to the average moviegoer, because it's so grim and unnecessarily convoluted. So most of them just didn't recommend it. You can't treat Rotten Tomato scores the same as your usual 1-10 scale.
Saying all that, it really should have gotten the same or higher than Man of Steel (around 50%).
It wasnt bad, it was mediocre.
Which is worse than being bad.
Apparently.
>>70072744
>Giving BvS anything over a 5
How much autism do you need to think this way?
>>70075192
>>70075176
But there's absolutely no consequences in the DCEU.
Metropolis got leveled, and the moment the congress explodes, the consequences of that vanish.
Superman's death is pointless because he's going to resurrect, probably 3 days later, in Justice League, and BvS fails at any emotional moment because it does no effort in making people care about the characters.
>>70075139
Even /co/ has given up on the DCEU.
Nobody has any faith in it aside from the 10 DCEU fans left who are in /tv/
>>70075230
>mediocre
No, that's evey marvel flick anon.
>>70075271
That's what the entire planet thinks anon.
Everyone loved Civil War, and everyone hated BvS.
Instead of crying for years like with MoS, why not just accept it?
>>70075241
There were no consequences for MoS till the followup - they were all front and center.
The same is most likely going to hold true for BvS. The blowback from the senate bombing and his death are part of what I expect to see in Suicide Squad and JL.
And I have a good feeling that Supes isn't coming back the way you think he is.
>>70075264
>/co/
>10
>>70075349
>The blowback from the senate bombing and his death are part of what I expect to see in Suicide Squad and JL.
Why would it?
5 minutes later after it does, they find out it was Lex who planted the bomb anyway.
>>70075199
Then don't. You're wrong.
If you deem BvS to be a 7-8/10 you need to watch more movies. You're simply being retarded. There's literally no other explanation. The entire point of rating a movie is lost when every rating is so inflated that the majority are positive. Most movies are forgettable. If it isn't forgetable than it can deserve higher than a 6/10.
But I doubt anyone will talk about BvS 5 years from now unless its in regards to failed blockbusters.
>>70075366
But it's true, there's no one left to watch these flicks.
If even comic book nerds have given up on it, you know you fucked it up, considering the garbage they've been eating up for decades.
The public hates it, the critics hate it, comic book nerds hate it.
Seriously, who likes this?
Who's that completely isolated fraction of society that likes this?
>>70075418
Patricians
>>70075264
/co/'s full of fanboys who wouldn't recognize a good story arc if it sat on their collective face.
Let em bawww about "not muh characters" till their eyes bleed. I look forward to their myopic and cynical assessment of these characters evolving into their more iconic representations as "backpedaling."
>>70072744
>unironically talking about capeshit
>>70075439
Patricians who name themselves patricians?
>>70075418
>true
>who likes this ?
>completely isolated fraction of society
>>70075418
Why are you angered by the fact that people enjoy things that you don't?
>>70075441
Dude, it's precisely /co/ who knew that Batman killed people.
>I look forward to their myopic and cynical assessment of these characters evolving into their more iconic representations as "backpedaling."
That's too clever for Snyder.
He can't do that, he has worked way too hard on one-upping Nolan's grittyness to go back to a lighthearted tone.
He really thinks he's doing good even when the entire planet has told him that he's retarded.
The only people who are still supporting this are people who want to see the DCEU die.
>>70075349
>supes comes back evil.
Wew lad.
>MoS
Hold on! Superman isn't himself! He's just learning and he still has human flaws!
>BvS
Superman was forced to do what he did. He's learning and there's too many expectations. He's being manipulated!
>Justice League 1 AND 2
He's controlled by darkside and newly born of course he isn't right in the head.
DCucks are going to endure 4 movies of superman not being superman because Hack Snyder hates the character. How sad.
>>70075373
Yeah? How's that? Did he confess to it? The only man who could conceivably provide testimony to that effect is dead.
>>70075293
>everyone loved cw
>everyone hated bvs
>>70075457
this.
you are watching manufactered garbage with both companies.
they just name themselves patrician so they can be contrarian but no surprise there thats what 4chan is about.
>>70075502
Welp, yet another plothole.
>>70075439
Well said.
>>70075511
But it's true.
Nobody in their sane mind would like BvS, and even WB was worried months before the movie came out, and rightfully so.
>>70075349
Supes is coming back asthe hero we deserve
>>70075442
>unironically shitposting on taiwanese cartoon board
ISHYGDDT
>>70075410
I'm using capeshit standards. By capeshit standards bvs is >7 rating easy
>>70072744
They rate it low because on a technical level the movie fails to completely tell a story. Specifically, the movie relies heavily on people knowing all of the comics and heroes before watching the film to understand why certain things happen. A story should not rely on information outside of the movie itself in order to make sense. Even seperate movies in franshises follow individual stories which are branched together in a complete story overall. BvS is seen as poor becauxe it fails to do what Marvel has consistently done -> introduce a hero and tell their story without relying on needing outside info.
This is why the movie is rated poorly among normal people and rated highly by people with knowledge in comics. If DC had slowed down and introduced each individual hero with their own backstory movie before placing all of them into one single film it would have registered better with the general population. Instead, they made a movie which isolated those not familiar with comics (which makes up a majority of the people seeing the film) causing the poor ratings. If DC kept in mind the normies, they would have done better.
>>70075491
Hail Snydra !
>>70075540
I feel so bad for them.
>>70075499
>not muh supermans: The Official Post
But checked, out of obligation
>>70075556
Not at all.
It's a horrible movie and an example of everything that a superhero movie should not be.
>>70075570
eh even if the movie is shit they get their paycheck. Cavill even admitted he's in this for the money but Ben might actually wanted to make a decent film.
>>70075542
I loved it, everyone I know loved it. Stop memeing anon.
>>70075499
>supes comes back evil.
>Wew lad.
It's the big bad. /learn2storyarc.
Wew indeed.
>>70072744
all the needed to do was copy the DCAU without the kiddie shit
>>70075293
>>70075499
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>>70075606
Well, I hated it, and everyone I know hated it.
>>70072744
Its okay OP, I think it's one of the best capeshit but nobody I know agrees with me.
Snyder era flicks are the Schumacher to Nolan's Burton.
>>70075210
You are retarded that's now how it works. Reviewers either give a positive or a negative review. The percentage is an average of the fresh (positive) and the rotten (negative) reviews. Below that is the actual 1-10 scoring system with about a 7 starting the positive/fresh reviews. If nothing is fundamentally wrong with a film it will recieve a 7/10 and end up with a high RTpercentage. BvS had a fundamental flaw of bad pacing making it just below a 7/10 and having a lower RT percentage. FUCKNG educate yourself
It's a shame Nolan got tired of capeshit.
>>70075517
Pure kino.
You see that in reality the "plot hole" as you call it is a mythological reference to Plato's symposium wherein the story of mankind's separation from one another is told. The hole in each person, that which we need to fill with knowledge, love, or possessions, is the product of angered Gods. What is superman if not a type of God? And is the audience not representative of humanity?
Synder thus establishes a sophisticated metacommentary on the plot"holes" created in the modern mythology of superheroics, and which ultimately leaves us wanting more despite it being beyond our grasp.
>>70075517
Yeah, because kidnapping, attempted murder and whatever the hell you call the creation of Doomsday aren't jailable offenses.
>>70075599
Of course, every capeshitter should aim for the lowest/ common denominator lazily putting together an insulting product for the masses to gorge themselves on
>>70075570
>>70075668
Woah, i've been enlightened.
Is this Snyder's message?
Can't wait for more of his plotholes.
BvS is probably the best capeshit film ever made, up there with Watchmen and TDK.
>>70075546
I like that, because it can be interpreted in two very different ways.
>>70075556
Yes, and that's about right for me, as well.
>>70075626
That certainly proves it's quality since you and everyone you know are degenerate plebs
>>70075683
>bulletproof
Nah, you just got used to getting shat on by everyone.
Even bullied kids give up after trying everything.
The DCEU could get cancelled tomorrow and you would still say everything's fine.
Feel sad to all the fucking plebs who can't open their hearts, minds and eyes to true capekino
>>70075720
You like BvS, you don't get to talk down on anyone.
You are a prequel apologist, a Pluto Nash fan, or a Uwe Boll follower.
>>70075750
You know who are true plebs?
The ones who don't see the genius of George Lucas put in the prequels.
>>70075606
I'm with you, anon. And I'm HYPE for the director's cut.
I think Disney didn't bribe the critics, but more like they bribed Snyder.
>>70075701
Shit posting aside. I just reread what I wrote and it hurt my brain.
I can't believe some crazy bastard spent like 12 000 characters typing out 12+ posts defending this schlock
>>70075626
It was surprising to say the least. I expected the usualy capeshit crowd to eat it up but even they avoided this failure.
>>70075753
Most BvS fans are generally fans of auteur cinema. Films that are the pure result of their creators id.
Snyder seeks to merge pop commercialism with arthouse sensibilities, eschewing the general trappings of your usual genre fare. Instead of the milquetoast nothingness of a film like something out of the MCU we get something that really has no parallel. It's the synthesis of comic book philosophy and avant garde cinema that many people just aren't ready for.
I'm amazed with DCfags because I have never, EVER seen this level of denial in any other place.
I mean, after 3 years praying and begging that this movie would make 1.7 billion and everyone would like it, they call those people who they wanted to attract plebs.
This is pure denial and legitimate anger.
Probably because those people actually came and laughed at the disaster that this movie was.
It's really amusing.
>>70075599
Please do tell us what our superhero movies should be.
Also checked.
>>70075241
No one could pin the crime onto Lex conclusively, and the media pins it onto lone right wing nutjob bombs a bunch of people. At best the Senator has a suspicion based on an inside joke and his mysterious absence. The reporters don't know what went wrong, like they were clueless news reporters and not all top aces in news reporting who become The Reporter owned by Marvel Comics. It's only the audience that knows it's Lex.
Superman goes into the hills for a day or two, and when he comes back it's Night of the Second Day and Lois is being forcibly subject to a demonstration of acceleration
No one except Batman and Superman knew about his involvement in creating Doomsday
BvS was simply too intelligent for MCU fans, that was its biggest problem.
>>70075865
BvS fans are fat neckbeards who don't want to accept they spent 3 years hyping up a turd.
>>70075650
bingo.
>>70075867
No, we were (are) laughing at people who's lack of brain function denied them the joy of bvs.
>>70075865
>most BvS fans are generally fans of autist cinema
is this copypasta or you just typed all that out? either way if its not its gonna become one
>>70075885
X-Men 2, Spiderman 1 and 2, X-Men DOFP, Iron Man 1, Superman 1 and 2, Batman and Batman Returns, Batman Begins (really underrated), The Dark Knight...
There you go, legitimately good superhero movies.
>>70075905
what a surprise
more facile ad hominems which mean nothing
Every shitpost you pleb shills think you're clever for posting just strengthens the resolves of the fans as they realize what a bunch of monkeys the supposed "haters" are
>>70075938
>we
You spent 3 years crying and trying to explain why MoS wasn't trash.
Call them plebs all you want, you are not going to mask the fact that you obviously crave for people to like Snyder's flicks and for them to be a success, no matter how much you call people plebs, which has no meaning coming from like 10 neckbeards in /tv/
>>70075728
Keep thinking that.
>>70072831
>>70073008
it happened with suckerpunch too.
no one knows why snyder releases partial movies that suck. some say it's his way of apologizing, for blowing your mind.
>>70075946
I don't pasta
>>70075977
I'm sorry, you do not get to insult anyone, BvS apologist.
You are already bottom of the barrel.
You've been fighting the entire world and self-proclaiming yourself patricians out of pure denial.
>>70072744
When will the meme of hating on this movie end?
>>70076045
Why are you replying to the OP when this isn't your first post in this thread?
>>70075980
"We" really don't care if people enjoyed the movie or not. "we" simply don't want others to dictate how "we" should think
>>70075753
I hate the prequels, am not a huge fan of TFA, have never seen Pluto Nash, and think Uwe Boll is a giant festering asshole who has no business making toilet cleaner commercials, let alone feature-length films.
>>70076045
When hating it stops being so fun.
DCucks are tumblrina-tier sensitive, it's way too tempting not to come here and laugh at everything.
>>70076021
The only people fighting are the shitposting trolls forcing themselves into every BvS and MoS discussion.
People who like the movies are glad to discuss them with other fans and open minded people.
The only bottom of the barrel autist here is the degenerate who spends his time in threads for movies he hates, accomplishing nothing at all other than reinforcing the will of the films fans.
>>70076021
I know this was bait but to be honest until winter soldier every marvel fan I know hated captain america
>>70072744
Daily reminder.
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>>70076083
"People hate what they don't understand"
>>70076057
Yes, you do.
If BvS had been a success on RT and in box office, you'd be shitposting about it, but it wasn't, it failed in both means, so everyone is a pleb because they don't agree with your circlejerk-made perception of what a ''patrician'' is.
Trust me, a patrician wouldn't even watch capeflicks.
>>70076053
easier to click on his post number and scroll while typing than to hit reply. I'm a lazy person
>>70076117
Then Snyder must hate comics and superheroes.
>>70076121
>trust me
>>70076089
>People who like the movies are glad to discuss them with other fans and open minded people.
AKA drones who unironically liked this trash.
You deserve to get your threads derailed.
>The only bottom of the barrel autist here is the degenerate who spends his time in threads for movies he hates, accomplishing nothing at all other than reinforcing the will of the films fans.
What's the difference between that and the assmad DCfags who spent 3 years trying to explain why MoS wasn't trash?
>>70075264
>10 fans
>Marvelshills actually believe this
>>70075867
The only interest I have in these movies doing well commercially has to do with seeing more of them made, not with some juvenile console-war fanboy bullshit.
I'm a fan. All fucking fanboys must fucking hang.
>>70076174
Oh no?
Let me post how the average BvS thread OP looked like before the reviews came out.
I have NEVER seen a fanbase so desperate for a movie to be liked and for it to be a success.
>>70075264
>>70076157
snyder has straight up said he wishes he could release long movies, and that length is not a problem for him personally in regards to movies
but he has to compromise and release smaller cuts
even in regards to watchmen, he said he's seen the airplane cut which is "the movie" but of course loses a lot
he's forced to take some of the flesh from the bone so to say
>>70076200
>122 posts
>28 IPs
Every BvS apologist thread.
>>70076243
See?
Pure denial.
>>70076121
You're making a lot of assumptions there anon and trying to pass them off to be concrete facts.
I loved bvs. I loved it more than cw. I don't care if you didn't. These are facts
>>70075948
Yes, and of that list, the ones these two films have the most in common with are the X-films. They deal with some of the real-world impact of superbeings and they're recursive, self-referential, occasionally metatextual, and demand that the audience pay a bit more attention than your standard cape fare.
>>70076273
>demand that the audience pay a bit more attention than your standard cape fare.
Which hasn't happened since TDK.
>>70076116
That right there is a great example of what a shit show aggregate ratings systems are
>>70076020
Nah, you Armondsta.
>>70072744
Patton Oswalt gonna get at you, check your twitter.
>>70076245
If he can't make proper stories in about 2 hours when it's been 30 years since he stepped in to film school, then he has failed as a director.
>>70072831
Same with Man of Steel. Felt weird when I watched it in theatres, but I didn't have the same feeling after watching it on Bluray
>>70076337
Because it's totally his fault that he has to cut down his version of the film to appease the studio for a mass market release.
Even radio does this with radio cuts.
>>70076221
>never
>say never
>>70076380
No, it's his fault he has to cut down so much in the first place.
Change the story, make it smaller.
If the story doesn't make any sense in it's theatrical release, who's at fault?
The audience?
>>70076083
That's what's so funny to me. We told you we're bullet-proof and faggot MCU fanboys spent two days reporting our threads.
Doesn't look to me like we're the ones with the asspain problem.
>>70076116
Disney shills are faggots
>>70076426
I've been to those threads.
They were nothing but dumps of pics that had been posted constantly and copypastas trying to explain why the movie is not a non-sensical mess.
No discussion.
>>70076400
Here is a classic example of arm chair directors of /tv/.
>>70076428
Yes anon, the entire planet, everyone but the 10 DCEU fans are Disney shills.
>>70076200
Great Zod pic.
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>>70072744
BvS was directed by a man who said he wanted to make a Batman movie where Batman gets anally raped in prison. What the fuck.
>>70076491
Funny how things turned out for Warcraft.
>>70075867
Nah, I'm the kind of person who wanted The Killing Joke, Prey (the one with Dr. Strange), Year One, or Batman: The Cult to get a big screen release. Not one to hype over the Box Office, otherwise I'd be forced to like Avatar and Jurassic World. BvS is closer to an honest treatment of the medium and the characters, and isn't really suited to a 2-hour action movie expectation.
I liked BvS because even if it was a reflection of schlock like Dark Knight Returns and Birthright, at least it did it right.
Pic entirely unrelated
>>70076200
Based Shannon made best Zod
>>70076508
That's not what he said, like at all.
>>70076508
>Snyder
>Deals in Irony and Self Awareness
>His own words
>People take at face value every word he says and hang on them even if it's an 8 year old interview
People who hate Snyder are fucking autists
>>70076531
>implying MoS has anything to do with Superman 1 or 2
Get the fuck out, MoS Zod was just an angry guy.
>>70076511
>funny how things turned out
>>70076542
I'm sure there's some copypasta explaining the philosophical and religious symbolism of some 6'5, 250lb guy drilling Bruce Wayne's anus mercilessly in a dirty cell.
>>70076542
>People who hate Snyder
I don't hate him because he wants to fuck Batman up the bum bum. Super hero movies are for gay babies. I hate him because all his movies suck (except for the dawn of the dead remake which was just okay).
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>>70076574
What has that to do with Warcraft being yet another failed videogame joint?
The DCEU it's amazing because it should not have happened, it's a statistical anomaly.
Everything could have gone wrong, went wrong.
>>70075795
Group of mates getting together for it, gonna be GOAT
>>70076597
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>>70076590
It's no wonder film discussion is in such a garbage shape on this board when lads can't even comprehend the style and intent of a director like Snyder.
>>70076639
Why?
It's DCfags who are desperate to defend Snyder's failures.
>>70076538
I'm gonna quote him verbatim. You can google this and verify it in the cache. Zack Snyder when asked about what standalone Batman movie he would make, "I hate fucking niggers but I love to masterbate to interracial cuckold fetish videos on my smart phone so If I ever made a Batman movie I'd have him get raped up his shit hole by a gang of black niggers in a prison. That'd be so fucking hot and smexy. Oh I just came in my panties let me lick it up. num num mmmm cum cum for my tum tum."
Sick guy.
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>>70076639
Why are you so angry at the MCU, DC friends?
It failed because Snyder made a movie that people didn't like, the MCU didn't have anything to do with it.
>>70076679
>no,it's us,The CIA
Is this the JUST general?
Can we talk about Warcraft in here?
I'm always amazed by Nolan's masterful use of cinematography as a story-telling device such as with these two images. Take note of CIA in front of the plane. It is a well balanced shot where man and horizon form perfect quadrants on the frame. Together they act as Cartesian axes, intersecting to create an origin around which the rest of the world is ordered. This is clearly an image of a man who thinks he's in control. The following shot supports this by contrast where we see the hired guns in a car blindfolded and disoriented. The camera shakes violently and the horizon is askew. This is a shot of men who are not in control. For the next minute of dialogue CIA maintains his mask of composure as he orders his men and interrogates his captives. It's not until the staged killing when a double-masked Bane questions the reality of what his senses perceive. Bane rejects the world that CIA had built around the captives and this quite literally shakes his foundation. CIA stumbles for the first time in this moment, partly rustled by the turbulence, partly taken a back by Bane's ability to speak, but primarily shaken by the tremors of the crumbling system of order he had built and maintained in the figurative image of the Agency. As CIA and Bane converse face to face it is Bane who remains steady, whereas CIA shakes in frustration as he struggles to restore order with idle threats. It is then that we see the second plane approaching the first, both of which take on an axial form (plane) from the wings and fuselage. The one "plane" flips the other, turning CIA's world upside-down. In the midst of chaos and a broken system Bane establishes himself as a new order, pic related. With his heart at the origin, his body becomes the vertical and horizontal axes, and all space around him is a new Cartesian plane risen from the ashes of CIA's order and metric. As the shell of an old world drops away orientation and verticality is restored.
>>70076665
gr8 b8 m8
BvS is really good, but after "The Dark Knight" no batman movie can ever be as good.
>>70076759
>>70076738
>>70076718
FOUR YEARS YOU AUTISTIC FUCKING BANEPOSTING REDDITORS
FOR FOUR YEARS THIS STUPID PIECE OF SHIT MEME HAS BEEN POSTED 24/7, ONLY THIS BOARD CAN BE THIS AUTISTIC. I HOPE THE FUCKING MODS PERMABAN ALL OF YOU FAGGOTS, GO MAKE YOUR OWN STUPID BOARD AND CALL IT 'LE EPIC BANE CHAN'. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST RETARDED THING IVE EVER SEEN ON THE INTERNET, I ACTUALLY FEEL SAD FOR YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE SO AUTISTIC THAT YOU POST THIS THINKING THAT YOU'RE FUNNY, 'LOLO LOOK AT ME IM LE CIA XDDDD FOR THE WIN EPIC MAYMAY' /TV/ IS A FUCKING SHITHOLE IM SICK OF YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS POSTING THIS STUPID ASS MEME 24/7 FUCK OFF U FUCKING FAGGOTS STOP POSTING THAT STUPID CIA AGENT AND THE OTHER ASS BANE, 4 YEARS, 4 FUCKING YEARS POSTING THE SAME SHIT, NOT EVERY WEEK BUT EVERY HOUR, EVERY HOUR THERE'S A BANE THREAD, ON EVERY BOARD OF 4CHAN, U FUCKING AUTISTS THIS BOARD IS MORE AUTISTIC THAN ALL THE OTHER BOARDS COMBINED, THE DARK KNIGHT SUCKS DICK AND SO DOES YOUR WORTHLESS LITTLE BOARD, I BET YOUR DICKLETS START TINGLING WHEN YOU POST SOMETHING ABOUT BANE, ISN'T THAT RIGHT FAGGOTS? I BET THAT YOU GET SOME SEXUAL STIMULATION FROM UPLOADING A PICTURE OF BANE TO YOUR BOARD HUH? I BET THAT YOU MASTURBATE TO THE THOUGHT OF GETTING FUCKED BY THE ACTORS OF THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. IT'S PROBABLY TRUE, YOU'RE ALL FAGGOTS AND WANT BANE'S DICK. OH LOOK ITS TIME TO REPOST UR STUPID CIA THREAD, GO AHEAD AND CLICK THE BUTTON WITH YOUR GREASY NECKBEARD FINGERS. I BET YOU WEAR FEDORAS AND TRENCHCOATS TOO. STUPID ASS FAGGOTS, THIS FORCED MEME IS NOTHING MORE THAN SHIT, TRYHARD FEDORA NECKBEARDS ATTEMPT AT BEING ORIGINAL. YOUR "OC" IS PATHETIC, JUST SOME SHITTY PAINT EDITS OF THE SAME PIC OVER AND OVER. WHAT A BUNCH OF TALENTLESS FAGGOTS, GO CHEW ON YOUR MOUNTAIN DEW AND YOUR DORITOS. IM DONE ARGUING WITH YOU FAGGOTS, GO CHECK YOUR STUPID DUBS AND RE-WATCH TDKR FOR THE 50TH TIME WHILE YOU MANCHILDREN KEEP REPOSTING THIS CRAP EVERY SINGLE HOUR
FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOTS
Just checked, and BvS came out March 25th. The reviews dropped on March 19th.
That's over 2 months ago, seeing as how it's May 27th right now.
How much did WB pay to viral market their movie here? Why won't they stop? It's always the same threads: ripping on Civil War, or X-Men, or Deadpool, while saying BvS is underrated, to wait for the director's cut, etc. all while the same handful of shills talk to themselves here (165 posts, 34 IPs? Come the fuck on, Hiro. Ban these idiots)
BANE?
>>70076782
tl;dr
>the hate for DCEU in /tv/
>MCUcks still in denial
>>70076800
WB is too poor to pay for shills.
These are just 10 fanboys mad because they wanted their own MCU and the public denies that to them.
>>70076454
Yeah? What about the one that got deleted 13 posts in? A lot of us *do* dump that stuff, because we get tired of explaining to yet another person what it is we like about these movies. We dump that because we get tired of continually covering old ground with people so smugly convinced of their superiority that they start asking entry level questions that have been answered countless, countless times without refute.
Don't agree with all the captures? Fine. I don't agree with every single word of it myself, but there's enough common ground to have a discussion. If you don't agree with it and think we're all just a bunch of "Damage Control" autists seeing things that aren't there, then please feel free to leave, but the fact of the matter is, there was only one real reason any of those threads ever got reported:
Assblasted little faggots who can't stand people liking something they don't. End of discussion.
>>70076776
60s batman was the best one.
"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
>>70076800
>>70076808
Denial over what?
>>70076827
But there's no discussion.
I've seen one of those threads last 6 hours with 23 posts.
It's a borderline spam of non-discussion material, it is against the rules deal with it.
Civil war was pretty retarded, it had action, but a lot of who cares political shit.
I liked BvS better, but it wasn't good either.
>>70076850
>>70076782
>That poster posts pasta with some thought and originality, even using words with OH GASP four syllables
>respond with cruise control buzzword bullshit
the typical hothead, everyone
>>70076827
If that shit wasn't against the rules mods wouldn't have deleted it.
Do you think a report means that post or thread us automatically doomed?
>>70076881
>>70076888
There's no denial, the majority of people simply ignore the DCEU.
>>70076911
Care to explain what does that have to do with my post?
>>70076881
Straight up ass blasted lies
>>70076642
Hell yeah, man.
>>70076945
>l-lies
???
Those threads are nothing but empty, pointless bumps trying to make the thread live.
If it has more than 50 posts, there's company wars going on.
Of course they get deleted.
>>70076911
who the fuck uses a 4chan like that
you can't read this shit and the setup is retarded
it's like trying to read a /v/ screencap where the posts are all over the place
>>70076642
that's epic as fuck m8
>>70076881
These threads are usually polite discussion unless some asshole comes in with his >27% posts and spams evans. The only reason these threads reach 100+ posts is because of Marvel trolls.
>>70076706
We weren't even the ones to bring it up in the first place, i don't think.
>>70076922
>no denial
>based MCUcks
>>70077015
I seriously don't know if anything in this post makes sense.
>>70075439
"Patricians" could barely get it to make a profit.
>>70077015
saved
>>70077008
>polite discussion
These threads are just damage control to try, and fail, to prove that BvS wasn't garbage.
It happened with MoS, it's happening with BvS, it will happen with JL.
You are surprised people come here to poke fun at the most sensitive fanbase that has graced /tv/ in years?
>>70076881
Because there's nothing to discuss. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who seriously thinks there's some Dark Souls-caliber hidden meaning to everything in this piece of shit is a fucking moron. They're below you and me. Just ignore them.
Didn't know so many Dcucks were on tv/.
>>70076800
4chan is filled with edgy contrians who have a hard on for classic representations of masculinity. MCU is more popular in the outside world, it's camp and whilst i wouldn't say its a shinning beakon feminist thought there isn't the same insistance on serrious depictions of masculinity, Captin America would be the closest thing to a traditional alpha male figure in the MCU films and even he's quite camp.
>>70077083
>so many
Look at the post count, and at the IP count.
There's very few, but their ass damage makes it look as if they were many.
>>70076782You know the drill.
>>70077015
But the ones who got cucked are DCfags.
The DCEU has been a failure.
>>70076941
exactly.
Everything being spoonfed in MCUnt, people have lost the ability to think for themselves.
"People hate what they don't understand"
MCUcks start spamming any DCEU thread with #Evans who is just alone & #NeedsABoyfriend.
>>70077078
Perhaps stop this meme that MoS is hated mayhaps?
Its one of the best selling Cape movies on home video, selling more than almost all Marvel movies, and its rated positvely on every user aggregate ratings site
MoS was divisive in a lot of ways, but was received far more positively than negatively.
>>70077164
>Its one of the best selling Cape movies on home video
The fact that you have to go to DVD sales it's fucking hilarious.
>>70077083
There's 41 people ITT, and that's split between Marvel posters, DC posters, and Baneposters.
>>70077108
You're right anon I should've checked. That's actually incredibly sad. It's pretty safe to assume that OP saw BvS opening night and has seen it 7 times since.
>>70077132
>2months
>anon is still mad
>anon's insecurity level is over 9000
>>70077158
Because it's way too fun and easy to bait you.
One image of Chris Evans and the thread is completely derailed.
>>70077218
I'm not.
I am very glad justice got served for once.
BvS got critically panned and it underperformed.
Everything that could have gone right, went right.
>>70077189
>measured objective way to see if people liked a movie
>calls it invalid
lel
>>70075895
If anything, they should have focused more on the media outcry for that.
As far as anyone knew, the senate called out Superman, then explodes killing everyone two minutes after he walks in.
I've said it before, but I think the "let's find a way to give Lex access to the ship and Zod" scene would have been far better if moved to after the senate bombing, to give an actual legit reason Luthor could use to push his Superman countermeasures.
Right now, we got "random senator is able to give him unsupervised, unlimited access to an alien spacecraft and alien corpse for no reason while asking for nothing in return," when any realistic government would have had that shit locked down and probably moved to a top secret location the second the events of Man of Steel ended.
>>70077008
bull fucking shit. its just delusional shitposting and Im genuinely concerned why people will argue for this movie. At best, its mediocre now. maybe the ultimate cut will change that, but Sucker Punch directors cut added fuck all, Watchmen just added more shit that I hated in the first place, and Im not gonna hold my breath for BvS.
>>70077248
>THE CRITICS DON'T COUNT
>THE BOX OFFICE DOESN'T COUNT
>t-the DVD sales count because I won...
DCuck pls.
>>70076881
>>70077008
>The only reason these threads reach 100+ posts is because of Marvel trolls.
Bingo. There's also the Snyder haters and /co/ fanboys, too. Then there's the people attempting to actually talk about the movie and talk about what they hope the future brings.
>>70077275
>Reviews divided
>MoS made $700 Mil
>Double that of Superman Returns
>DOUBLE
>calls it a box office failure
Jesus, being an Mcuck is suffering.
>>70077291
>Then there's the people attempting to actually talk about the movie and talk about what they hope the future brings.
Then these threads deserve to get derailed.
>>70077243
Don't bother. I blew him out in another thread and he fell back on calling me a samefag. He's an idiot.
>1.jpg
It all makes sense.
>>70077221
now is not the same to bait
that comes after you've learned to think
watch DCEU
>>70077302
Why?
Marvel won.
>>70077291
If people wanted to discuss the movie, they done so, and ignored the shitposting.
But no, every DCfag was dumb enough to jump straight at stale baits that everyone can smell a mile away.
>>70077078
I'm not surprised but neither parties launch any real criticism. None of these memes ever make sense. "lel your movie got a shit score." "your movie's plot makes no sense xDDDD". I would laugh if the majority of the shitposts were funny but they're not. The fanbase isn't smart enough to come up with anything worth reading.
Instead what I get are multiple 100+ BvS and Civil War threads filled with senseless butthurt, rehashed arguments, and shitty pastas instead of clever, thought-out, dank memes.
The best I've seen are the MoS and BvS Evans gifs. 2 GIFS OUT OF 100s AND MONTHS OF SHIT.
tl;dr I AM TRIGGERED.
>>70077311
>anon still replying to himself
>anon's insecurity level is way beyond 9000
>>70076900
Really? While those threads were getting deleted, there were 4 different cunny threads, a Zootopia discussion that consisted mainly of furfags, and, if I recall, 2 "How can White Men even Compete?" threads.
Admittedly, I'm not sure how the janitors make their judgement calls on what constitutes a violation and what doesn't, but I'd think report volume plays no small role.
>DC
There's a little saying that DCucks need to learn:
Money talks and bullshit walks.
Critics hated BvS
Audience hated BvS
BvS was a financial letdown
Even the actors in it were crushed by the experience.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...
it's shit, suck it up.
>>70077382
>2 out 100
>triggered
>>70077442
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/WHY%20THO.gif/
Why so mad tho.
>>70077442
>gif
>doesn't move
Are you retarded anon.
>>70077442
I'm so mad I could jump into a tornado
>>70077471
>>70077500
>>70077412
>>70077437
>still mad
>brain cannot comprehend one single point to argue
>insecurity issues are above 9000
Honest opinion like i stated above. Neither movie was good. I can see how kids would like the action in cw more. And bvs was aiming for older audienxes and fell short.
Neither movie is more than a 5/10 at best.
>>70077254
I'm about halfway through the prequel comics. I'm wondering if they provide more insight on who that Senator even was.
Also, I'm really starting to suspect that Lex devised a way to track metahumans. At the very least, the guys in the War Room weren't using radar to track Supes and Doomsday, unless they were taking a little artistic license with what radar's capable of.
>>70077529
Why?
Marvel won.
>>70077523
>>70077554
>>70077266
If there weren't so many so assblasted about anyone at all enjoying it, the people who liked it could discuss it. Also, you've got more than a bit of confirmation bias happening. There is discussion going on.
>>70077567
I'm still trying to figure out what's up with this guy in the thread who's just posting random pics.
>>70077529
None of this really matters to be honest.
All the movie studios are going to look at is "Did this movie make money?"
>>70077590
>I'm still trying to figure out what's up with this guy in the thread who's just posting random comments
>>70077576
Nah, shitposting is way more fun.
It's not like you have anything worthwhile to discuss anyway.
When Man of Steel came out the general /tv/ consensus was to shit on it just like everyone else was doing at the time. Why did the Meme Machine deem BvS capekino? I mean it is a ruse, right? It's a worse movie than MoS was.
>>70077624
No one did.
It's DCfags who pushed the capekino meme, and it completely blew up in their faces, so liking BvS and MoS became a meme.
>>70077624
>Why did the Meme Machine deem BvS capekino?
Thing is, literally everyone was expecting BvS to be a hit, even just because it was riding on Superman and Batman's names.
When it flopped, some of us got over it, others continue to mock it, others just....broke.
What you're seeing is the result of a film with such high expectations flop that it literally drove it's fans insane.
>>70077676
This.
This movie literally broke some people.
>>70076625
It feels like a movie that shouldn't exist, like James Cameron's Spider-Man, George Miller's Justice League, or Terry Gilliam's Watchmen, but somehow does.
>>70077644
>he thinks it's a meme
Wew
Let me educate you on Man of Steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5-14rjWUM
In the past 3 years people have been dissecting, analyzing and discovering what Man of Steel was, rather than being ass blasted about what they expected. It's absolutely a movie that has aged like fine wine.
>>70077707
This.
The moment I heard that the title was ''Batman vs Superman'' I just didn't know what to say.
The entire thing surrounding this movie was so unreal and bizarre.
I would compare it more with that planned Justice League Dark movie.
>>70077727
>40 minutes
I don't care enough about it to listen to some neckbeard talk about some superhero movie for that long, sorry
>>70077727
>It's absolutely a movie that has aged like fine wine.
Comparing yourself to wine critics isn't the best idea, since wine critics typically have no idea what they're talking about and can, and have, bene fooled into thinking one bottle of wine is both cat piss and the second coming of christ.
>>70072744
Fk U DC shill. LOL
>>70077576
ITT >OP : I simply cannot believe the poor reviews BvS is getting.
>anon's shitposting don't have one single opinion other than how it did not make 1 billion $,so it made no money.
others berate for not understanding simple scenes that the rest of the world understood.
inb4 Zack Snyder awakened the masses to think for themselves.
>>70077644
Not entirely accurate, at least not for me.
Initially, I was kind of "meh" about MoS. I liked it way better than "Returns," but overall, I liked just enough to not hate it. I mainly hated all of what I thought was pointless symbolism. It was when I saw that same religious imagery in BvS that it made me really question if maybe it was conveying something other than what I originally thought. I went back and watched MoS again, and it turned out that it was.
Ever since then, MoS has become one of my favorite hero films.
In any event, I'm going to finish reading the prequel comics and call it a night. It's been nice talking to you all, fans and haters alike.
