Just out of curiosity, why has the "beta male" perspective never been properly explored in cinema?
It's a pretty widespread mindset in the world, and could easily make for a great comedy or even seriuos drama
Is it because it makes women the villain?
What would it take to make a good movie about the modern beta male?
Fargo
>>64017815
Literally every single teenage comedy as well as many other comedies.
>>64017849
>>64017897
None of those films are about the modern, bluepilled beta male
>>64017915
>what did he mean by this
>>64017815
>>64017897
Yeah but that was from a comedic perspective, but how about the depressive, self-loathing serious side? I'd love to see a movie like that soon. Mr. Robot kind of explored the lifestyle POV of the introvert socially anxious beta but how about their love-life? (I always wanted Elliot to give his "best friend" a little peck <3)
>>64017815
>I can't kiss you. My overprotective dad is probably watching us on that camera.
I want to see a serious, depressive drama about the life of a beta male
It would show all the frustration, the hopelessness and the crushing loneliness
The only problem is that it would probably get protested as feminists for showing womens true form
>>64017815
"Her"
>>64017815
I've asked /lit/ for movies about lose virgin men and haven't gotten too many suggestions. I've asked /tv/ before for movies that meet that criteria and, again, not many. Really sucks.
I'd really like a movie about Elliot Rodgers or losers like him.
>>64018154
I have directed a movie loosely inspired by Elliot Rodger, and it won at my city's international film festival.
http://www.listapad.com/en//programm/natsionalnyi-konkurs/igrovoe-kino/belorusskii-psihopat
It is not available online yet though.
>>64018123
>that camera.
>>>
> Anonymous 12/23/15(Wed)18:50:18 No.64018123▶
I would watch the fuck out of that.
>>64017815
The Kings of Summer
(500) Days of Summer
Pretty in Pink
>>64017815
>Is it because it makes women the villain?
Bingo was his name-o.
>>64018277
Neat, hope it gets put online sometime.
>>64018283
woops wtf
>>64018179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXjXmvy-c34
Every "nerd gets the prom queen" movie since 1970.
>>64018374
Eh, the men in those movies are generally successful at things. I want a movie like Her or Las and the Real Girl where things don't work out for the guy, where there isn't some magic woman who saves them from their "sad" state.
>>64017815
I had to watch this twice, first time I thought she shanked him
>>64018507
>where there isn't some magic woman who saves them from their "sad" state.
You just described Her, though.
>>64018607
Who is Amy Adams?
>>64017915
Scott Pilgrim?
Dude is willing to give everything he's got for pussy, precieves every guy who already managed to tap it as "evil", lets himself be forced into conflict with exes despite the old common sense truth: "if all your past partners were 'crazy' remember the only common thing between them was you".
>>64018374
Eternal Sunshine definitely deserves to be in there. Joel is my beta hero.
>>64018374
>joaquin phoenix is a beta
ok buddy
>>64017815
no it would be a shitty comedy like big bang."seriuos drama" these days always takes autism to the max and you end up with characters like pepe from mr.robot
>>64018764
and he shits on knives
>>64018374
>youth in revolt
does it count if he has 2 personas and gets sex? guy from shame was more beta than that
>>64018507
chasing amy?
>>64018507
>where there isn't some magic woman who saves them from their "sad" state.
THat's exactly what happens in both of these movies. Hell, Lars even had a hot girl that clearly liked the protag all along, and the entire movie is his personal journey through the fake girl to finally get the real one.
Crazy how every single one of these "Beta Male" movies has a nice girl the guy could get if he wanted to.
Isn't there a single one about a loser that can't get the girl he wants, then he moves on and never gets any girls because no one would be interested in him?
>>64017897
In the movies the "nerd" is simply a Chad made to look/act nerdy. They are usually attractive.
>>64019740
No, because that would alienate lonely single men aged 18-35, who happen to have a lot of disposable income and are a prime Hollywood demographic.
>>64017815
>/r9k/ finds out the real world isn't like the Disney movies
>>64017815
LAST AMERICAN VIRGIN
because normies love victim blaming when the root of the problem is their fault
humanizing certain people will show they're bad people and have to change
>>64018510
She pretty much did.
The problem is that quite a lot of writers were the lonely nerd in High School, so we will rarely get movies/TV that aren't sympathetic towards the lonely nerd self-stereotype.
It would be awesome to watch the internet explode with impotent, ref-faced rage if there were a production that showed an angry, unsocialized, self-absorbed, know it all neckbeard instead of the "shy good waiting to blossom" as a major character.
>>64019967
If someone wants something and they can't get it in their current state they do need to change. It's ridiculous to expect everyone else to change on their behalf.
A film like >>64019740 is pointless unless the whole point is the character realises he doesn't need a girl. A film about a man who is lonely and stays lonely would just be a waste of time.
But you don't care, you're too wrapped up in your /r9k/ pity party. Thinking bad things about the world and expecting people to think good things about you.
>>64019904
Nice
>>64017815
>Is it because it makes women the villain?
Apparently not wanting to fuck a beta makes you a villain. Pathetic shit like this is the reason.
Nobody wants to see a full movie of a faggot shitposting.
>>64020197
lol sure enough some normie comes in with victim blaming. shouldn't you be on twitter so we won't have to read your shit opinions?
a woman can "be herself" and still find men willing to start a relationship with her. while a man has to make himself into Chad by his twenties to get anywhere with a woman or die lonely.
you're just reinforcing dated double standards and toxic status quo.
>>64020372
>Apparently not wanting to fuck a beta
It does. Men fuck beta females all the time. It wouldn't hurt to return the favor. I'd like to fuck a girl consensually for once, instead of having to get her black-out drunk
I reccommend post 90's American television. The males are always bumbling beta half wits, whose wives are strong level headed counterparts who keep the family together. With the current state of the American/British populace its very close to truth.
>>64019483
Would you watch a movie about your life?
>>64018277
I'd like to see that. Get it online (will need subtitles though).
>>64020468
>Men fuck beta females all the time.
They don't do it out of the goodness of the their hearts, its not a women's fault that men have low standards.
>>64017815
holy shit that was brutal
>>64020468
nah man, we should be fully free in who we do or do not fuck or the next thing you know you will be forced to fuck black girls (or whatever type is it you don't like)
>>64020619
People like you are why I'm glad chloroform exists.
>>64018963
What "drama" comes from that lifestyle, other than chan bants he would barely interact with anyone. It might not have to be a comedy but it would have to be funny.
>>64019074
YiR is cool though because his craziness is a proportional response to how beta he is.
>>64020752
Go cry elsewhere. Its not my fault no one wants to fuck you.
"I'm to much of a loser to get a girl so it must be the girls fault"
>people actually want to have sex and get in relationships
I've literally never met another human being I want to be in the presence of for more than 10 seconds.
>>64020197
This is such a pleb fucking opinion. It's part of the human experience you fucking dolt go back to your star wars thread you normie cuck. Fuck people like you are why cinema is dying.
>>64020841
But I do get girls. I just don't know their opinions about it since I don't stick around for the hangover.
>>64020617
It will be released online relatively soon, but I will try to have an international premiere at a film festival first. The subtitles won't be an issue.
>>64020882
Everyone shares that opinion I'm sure
>>64020938
What are you bitching about then?
I said girls don't owe you sex and you are lucky enough to be getting it anyway.
The Imperial March will be reworked into a more heroic theme for Luke in the next movie. You heard it here first.
>>64017815
Didn't see this posted.
>>64019862
Does Catcher In The Rye alienate edgy teens?
>>64017815
Had this happen to me the other night. Sucks mang
>>64021059
Judging by /r9k/ almost no one does, it's just a constant plaintive wailing.
To me they sound like they're going "OH MY GOD NO ONE WILL EVER LET ME BURN MY HAND ON THIS OVEN RANGE, EVERYONE ELSE GETS TO BURN THE FUCK OUT OF THEMSELVES WHY AM I DENIED IT"
Do you faggots really visit /r9k/?
Why?
The Last American Virgin. Text book Beta.
>>64021415
>Judging by /r9k/
I think I found the problem, chief.
>>64018607
My bad. I meant to say like them BUT without those things.
>>64017815
A movie showing a kid sitting alone in his apartment shitposting and masturbating from time to time would be riveting
>>64020882
Are there any movies about guys like this anon?
>>64022338
In all honesty, that does sound great. I would love to watch that film.
>>64022338
>I am the hot tub boy
>I am a hot tub boy
soon
all of charlie kaufmans movies have a beta male protag
>>64018277
Here is a trailer:
https://vimeo.com/149926462
Falling down
Why would anyone want to see the beta male succeed unless it's just a fan service fantasy? How do you make a beta male a compelling character when all he does is act depressed because he think the world owes him sex, and even worse, thinks a girlfriend will make him happy?
>>64019740
>Crazy how every single one of these "Beta Male" movies has a nice girl the guy could get if he wanted to.
Because that's what realistically happens, if you lowered to standards enough you could get a girl
>>64022568
>tfw no hot tub boy
>>64019875
>implying it isn't
>>64023535
But as a beta male, that is compelling. It'd be nice having a character I can relate to.
>>64020423
>a woman can "be herself" and still find men willing to start a relationship with her. while a man has to make himself into Chad by his twenties to get anywhere with a woman or die lonely.
>there are people who unironically believe this
>>64020468
>Men fuck beta females all the time.
So? Just because men are thirsty shits doesn't oblige women to do the same
>It wouldn't hurt to return the favor
It's still their choice not to
>>64020938
Why not?
>>64021752
I went there for the frog memes, and before I knew it I'd become an obese neckbeard
>tfw even if I got a girl to go out with me this would inevitably end either like this or getting cheated on due to small penis
at least I'm not a virgin though. but I've gone so long without sex (2005) I might as well be an honorary virgin
>>64023714
>implying it isn't true
you're a woman aren't you. blame your vagina for sexually rewarding the most sociopathic of behaviors
>>64024197
Man, Mommy sure did a number on you.
>>64020423
>while a man has to make himself into Chad by his twenties to get anywhere with a woman or die lonely.
Not true. Speaking from experience. You tell yourself all that so you don't have to put yourself out there and possibly get rejected. It's much easier to sit here on 4chan and commiserate with all the other anons not willing to take the risk.
>>64024197
>you're a woman aren't you
Nope, I'm a guy
>>64024197
>blame your vagina for sexually rewarding the most sociopathic of behaviors
Wat
>>64024260
This, anon is too scared of rejection so he must build a wall to.protect his delicate ego.
>>64024197
If that were true, then why not just become a sociopath and be swimming in pussy? And for that matter why am I, a sociopath, still a KV?
>>64024260
Not the dude you're replying to but this is painfully true. I keep telling myself that ill get a gf when im 10% bf, when im rich, when im not a piece of shit because i have horribly low self worth. Even with the thought that there are billions of men who are pieces of shit with worse bodies, faces and personalities i still cant put myself out there, i cant do it. I have built too many walls around my ego and the only spark of self worth i have left that if someone i wanted to share it with rejected me it would destroy me. And so far every girl i have shown interest in has so why would I? Do i really want to just get back on the horse and keep getting punched in the face just for a small chance of finding someone? Its like playing the lottery every week but instead of paying a dollar or whatever you pay the price of humiliation and your remaining diginity and self worth. What the fuck am i supposed to do?
>>64024823
You keep going after girls you know aren't interested in you so you have an excuse not to go after the ones that might be.
So much stupid fucking neckbeard redpill shit on 4chan recently
Not every board is r9k God fucking dammit
>>64024327
dumb iphonefrogposter
>>64019740
Adventureland from the perspective of the main characters friend
>>64024930
I only go after girls who DO show interest in me. I never initiate anything with them and still get blown off or just go back into my shell, usually a combo of both. It goes like this.
>Girl shows interest in me for whatever reason
>i go in to show off mode, make them laugh, get flirty etc etc
>they enjoy the attention, act interested
>my show off mode wears off, i feel as though im boring them from now on because i cant be mr funny mr witty mr interesting 24/7
>they regress after realising what a boring faggot i actually am and i get depressed/angry at them for rejecting me
>keep my distance from them because scared of getting hurt again.
>>64025234
So it's not that they reject you, it's that you preemptively sabotage things so they lose interest in you.
>>64024978
Maybe you should browse another site
>>64024978
Shut up faggot. /r9k/ is more right then you think. Too many people cling on to the "just world" idea.
>>64024823
>I keep telling myself that ill get a gf when im 10% bf, when im rich, when im not a piece of shit because i have horribly low self worth.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I've been telling myself the same thing for the past five years. "When I lose the weight, when I have a steady job and my own place again, when I've worked out my issues..." Well guess what, five years later I haven't done any of that shit, but I now have a gf who adores me because I let myself be open to the possibility I was worth being loved. And if for some reason I am single again in the future, I won't fall into the same pit of despair because now I know there are girls out there willing to accept me just as I am, not what I think I have to be.
>Even with the thought that there are billions of men who are pieces of shit with worse bodies, faces and personalities
Exactly. EXACTLY. There are millions of total losers around the world who found someone. I freely admit that I'm one of them. If they can do it, so can you and so can the other guy.
>>64017915
Drive
>>64025739
What's your face like? I have huge pores, trichostasis spinulosa, and a couple of acne scars.
>>64025119
I'm on an iPad tho
>>64025441
>unironically agreeing with /r9k/
>implying the world isn't just
>>64017815
There's a lot of animu about neets
Rozen Maiden had a neet protagonist, Welcome to the NHK too. Satou is just a failed normie though.
Ima Boku Wa is a good Japanese film about a neet.
![neckbeard-fedora[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ohHsP0L.png "neckbeard-fedora[1].png")
>>64026052
>What's your face like?
Take this dude, remove the fedora, give him a crewcut to help him cope with his ever receding hairline and expanding bald spot, swap the frames on the glasses to what they call "pillow" style, add full beard that is regularly trimmed, and make him almost 40.
>I have huge pores, trichostasis spinulosa, and a couple of acne scars.
And somewhere out there is a girl who doesn't care.
only two frog faggot posts, i am impressed /tv/
>>64027033
>not posting frogs
>>64024253
when all females act the same way. you start to see a pattern. mom or no mom.
>>64024327
see: dark triad
>>64024618
maybe you're just an edgy teen.
I'm really considering dropping empathy the rest of my life actually.
>>64024260
>>64024823
i.e. you have to buy into a Chad personality. bullshit people, don't truly think of them as humans, loudmouthed showboating, etc.
>>64025234
>girls drop you when you stop being the biggest asshole in the room and show your human side
seems accurate
>>64027397
>when all females act the same way. you start to see a pattern. mom or no mom.
But they don't all act the same way
>tfw you can't figure out if you're more lazy or shallow
>>64018374
You expect me to believe that Gosling, Sandler, Gordon-Levitt and Mikkelsen are betas?
>>64024327
>>64026667
>>64027281
>>64018507
Yeah, there's always a GIRL and that's the problem that makes these movies bullshit.
The foreveralones and post betas all know that there is no girl that helps him turn it all around. That's a fantasy. They have to turn first, THEN you get the girls.
In essence those movies treat the beta like a pet, even when they reform.
>>64027586
well it's the normie version with an above average guy in glasses or a wool sweater
they're "betas" in the sense that the character on Big Bang Theory are "nerds"
>>64027594
>not liking frogs
>>64024408
https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/3n7zqs/as_of_today_i_have_been_rejected_1000_times/
>>64027988
>approaching girls
>not letting them approach you instead
>>64027482
>But they don't all act the same way
they do and they lie about it. even that kawaii weeaboo cosplay girl will pick a loud jock over a similar geek with the same hobbies.
I used to laugh at women hate threads but really they all act this way. woman want to be treated like shit by someone who acts like they're better than them.
>>64027397
>i.e. you have to buy into a Chad personality.
Complete and utter bullshit. Keep making excuses for yourself and playing "no true Scotsman" with your own happiness.
>>64024260
>>64025739
>>64026962
These are my posts. I'm 38 years old. I rent a room in a house that my housemates have to walk through whenever they want to do laundry. I have a shit car and a temp job I'm getting laid off from in a week. I'm morbidly obese, balding, and my teeth are crooked. I have a mountain of anxieties and suffer from panic attacks on a regular basis. And yet I still have a girlfriend who very hungrily swallowed my cum about five hours ago.
But yeah, it's all "Chad's" fault you're alone.
>>64028263
>they do and they lie about it.
They don't, though
>even that kawaii weeaboo cosplay girl will pick a loud jock over a similar geek with the same hobbies.
The exact opposite is what actually happens
>>64027397
>see: dark triad
But I have this and I'm a KV
>>64018374
>no Darkon under documentaries
>>64027397
>I'm really considering dropping empathy the rest of my life actually.
Why would you have it to begin with?
>>64027981
Build wall, Kermit.
>>64018066
more like
>thanks for the free dinner, Jamal's waiting upstairs though so see you later friend!
>>64028504
>housemates
I bet you regularly go to parties too normie
>>64028650
moralfag parents. treat others the way you want to be treated bs, etc.
>>64028654
She could have at least let him watch.
Ferrel more than Reilly
>>64028651
Why do you have a problem with my toads?
>>64028695
Sounds like they've got the right idea, then
>>64028504
Do you give her meth or something? She obese too?
>>64028633
Thanks for reminding me about that.
>>64017849
Fargo season 1 yeah
>>64018507
The closest you're gonna get is Ima Boku Wa and even it has a magical savior guy in it.
>>64017815
>why has the "beta male" perspective never been properly explored in cinema?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUwGMSzhcg
>>64024197
>blame your vagina for sexually rewarding the most sociopathic of behaviors
this has been something i have been trying to stress
make pussy reward productive and intelligent behavior and it would fix the world
>>64030464
literally average sociopathic white boy the shitty youtube cartoon
>>64024823
If you don't like yourself, how the fuck can you ask other people to like you?
The saddest part is that you will not take my words to heart until it's too late. You will never learn unless you learn the hard way. Save yourself a terrible life and just listen to me now. You're attitude is all fucked up. Would YOU want to date someone who posts shit like that? FUCK NO.
>but anon how do I stop hating myself
Ask and you shall receive. God knows your entire life, he knows your every thought and know everything you have done and will do. God can do anything. God will help you if you ask. You have no excuse.
>>64030464
This is absolute Kinography. For those who see this director as the visionary cinematographical shaman that he is, "Pablo Goes to Hell" is a triumph of the beta male ethos.
To truly appreciate this masterpiece, it must be re-watched every 5 years and one grows old and learns how to vanquish their desires.
>>64020841
Females have two main insults against guys:
1. He's a loser
2. He has a small dick
But both are related to failing to live up to female standards.
Even when feminazis call guys cishet shitlords, it's really just new code for "he's a loser with a small dick, and no female would ever want consensual sex with you."
Again, it's always about her.
>>64024260
>You tell yourself all that so you don't have to put yourself out there and possibly get rejected.
this is more of the same old "be yourself" bullshit that feminism teaches women to parrot.
there is what women say they want.
and there is what women's bodies know they want.
the problem is that most betas have fallen victim and believe what women say they want, which is a lie.
her body doesn't lie. women want sociopaths.
>>64018764
Scott Pilgrim is not even the beta in the series Stephen Stills is
>>64025234
your clown game wore off. you were slack.
the fact that you changed shows you were incongruent to what made her initially attracted to you.
if your game lags even a little bit, she will look for something more exciting.
women don't love men the way men love women. women have no loyalty and are always on the look for something better.
it's pure biology.
Why would somebody post that online?
It wasn't funny, unless maybe your IQ is low.
OP got any videos of 80 year old ladies falling and breaking their hips?
>>64030557
>make pussy reward productive and intelligent behavior
But it already does
>>64031280
>there is what women say they want.
>and there is what women's bodies know they want.
And they're literally the same thing
>>64031391
>women don't love men the way men love women. women have no loyalty and are always on the look for something better.
*tips*
>>64027482
women all act the same way. they're just limited by their current appearance.
take any hambeast and make them lose weight down to model sizes and their true form comes out.
>>64032127
You know this from all the women you interact with right?lol
>>64032127
>and their true form comes out.
Which is?
>>64028504
tits or gtfo
what's funny is you think because she swallowed your cum that she loves you.
besides, it's just a "girlfriend."
you're fine if you literally don't give a fuck about having a committed relationship and just want to swap one sperm receptacle for the next, but some guys don't want that.
women who have been with multiple guys literally cannot commit to anyone.
>>64028578
Read the book What Women Want. Where they do actual measurements of female arousal. It's biology.
>>64024823
The whole point of redpill is you will only get what you want till you stop wanting it. Focus on yourself, make you the highest priority in your life, and eventually some woman will see that in you and latch on. The key to keeping that woman (or some other woman) is to keep you as the priority.
That's it, that's all there is. Women HATE men who love women more than they love themselves. Women long to be subservient. It may seem like they want equity or something because they're always bitching about men not paying them any attention, men cheating on them, pump and dump, etc. and those things are all over the media but the lesson of psychoanalysis and such is that people don't know what they REALLY want. What women really want is a sexualized father figure.
What do I mean by father figure? Fathers dote on their daughters, they give them things, they are the source of wealth and wisdom. Fathers mold their daughters into who they want them to be. Girls would marry their fathers except the sexual element is missing, so they go searching for a man who can be their father with sex included.
Beta men are simply men who haven't realized this yet and are looking for their mother rather than their daughter. Mature men have moved on from needing their mother's attention and nourishment. Women never mature, hence they still need a father their whole life.
Men grow up, women don't. If you don't have a woman yet it's because you haven't grown up. In many ways that's ok because for centuries that's been why older men married younger women (aside from the physical element). Men grow into their sexuality, women inherit it at age 15.
>liveleak
top kek
but in all seriousness, if i haven't made any progress with a female while sitting down at any point during a date, then i already know nothing will happen while standing up.
>>64028617
are you ugly? poor?
>>64028650
>Why would you have it to begin with?
because he doesn't have scales or autism you piece of shit?
>>64023427
Will it be on your vimeo page eventually?
Can't be arsed to find him, but this is a reply to the buttblasted fag whining about Chads getting pussy:
There's absolutely nothing wrong or bad about having Chad characteristics. Also, there's no requirement that you embody every aspect of the stereotypical Chad to get laid. If you don't want to be a "loud showboater" that's fine, just make sure you are fit, smart, and a good conversationalist. Being a Chad is basically about being a fun person to be around. Women don't want to be bored. A non-threatening man is boring. Just think about who you would rather hang out with and head to the bar--a guy who's cracking jokes, poking fun, slapping you on the back, etc. or someone who's quiet and self-conscious, strangely dressed, and weak-looking. Being a Chad is about being strong and fun--nothing wrong with those characteristics.
Because the whole premise is invalid. Haven't you figured out that if all women hate your guts, it's because there's something wrong with you instead of them? I have.
>>64032296
Looks like you tipped your fedora so hard that you got a concussion
>>64031827
>And they're literally the same thing
Wrong.
The truth about female desire: It’s base, animalistic and ravenous
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/02/the_truth_about_female_desire_its_base_animalistic_and_ravenous/
“Despite the notions our culture continues to imbue, this force is not, for the most part, sparked or sustained by emotional intimacy and safety.”
"Since we’re on the topic of rape fantasies, can we talk about why they are so common among women?"
"if you look at some of the data, that women are even less well-suited for monogamy than men."
There is what actually turns women on, and there is what women *say* they want in a man. Afraid of looking like sluts, women rarely say out loud what they really want.
>>64031827
I've been in one relationship in my life, and it was with a shy, conservative Christian girl. She would tell me she loved that I she was my first, loved how loyal and kind I was to her, and didn't even think guys like me were still around. She eventually cheated on me with her abusive ex and left me for him. According to her friend, she confessed she'd be willing to do "anything to be one of his side hoes".
For my own sanity, I'm still choosing to hold on to the belief that what you say is true for some morally principled woman out there, but it's pretty hard to not feel jaded after an experience like that.
>>64018124
Why didn't the thread end here?
>>64032204
The only thing preventing fatties from acting like skinny bitches is their current appearance.
>>64032311
>Women never mature
Except they do
>>64032217
"within every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, is a bitch, a cunt, a slut, a golddigger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out and that, if certain conditions arise and she is placed in a certain container at a certain temperature, will thrust her worst upon you"
it's biology.
antichrist. lars von trier. nature controls women's bodies.
>>64032319
Nope, neither
>>64032357
>he has empathy
>>64032568
>Wrong
But I'm not wrong. What people say they want us what they want, otherwise they'd say something different
>>64032496
It was psychopath Chads who nearly blew up the world economy with reckless gambling in 2008.
Keep in mind that the only reason for Wall Street douches to act the way they do is for pussy.
If women didn't reward that behavior, it wouldn't exist.
>thinly veiled /pol/ thread
>>r/theredpill
>>64032685
>someone actually believes this
And /r9k/ wonders why nobody takes them seriously
>>64032566
What does that even mean?
Female scientists have actually studied female arousal. What women say they want and what the instruments detect are two different things.
Don't want to take about rape fantasies?
>>64017815
Because "beta male" is a meme, not an actual thing. There is no "alpha beta" dichotomy, that's been widely debunked
There's idealization, rejection, and loneliness however, and films have explored those concepts plenty.
>>64032576
you learned the hard way about the true female form.
they are turned on by danger. they would rather be dominated than be stuck with a doormat.
people are only as faithful as her options.
loyalty means nothing to modern women. past behavior means nothing to modern women.
>>64032644
>Except they do
All women are overgrown children.
You could argue that child refugees might have to learn to mature. But in modern society women never have to. Someone will always bail them out or defend her horrible choices.
>>64032852
>What women say they want and what the instruments detect are two different things.
But what someone says they want is what they want, why would they say otherwise?
>>64032770
You are wrong.
"Women can at once be physically turned on—and psychologically turned off."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/paradox-and-pragmatism-in-women-s-sexual-desire
Few woman want to admit to all of their slutty fantasies. Culture tells them to act like a "lady", when deep down she's a primal animal.
I think the ultimate beta male movie would be something revolving around a single girl, in the information age.
She has half a dozen "suitors", from a dating profile. They call her, and listen to her problems, tell her how great she is, respond instantly to her texts, and all that bullshit. You get a couple of scenes where different beta orbiters take her out to the movies or whatever, and pay for everything. One of them confesses, gets shut down, and still remains her friend.
And then the climax of the movie is her alpha boyfriend getting home from work, and then fucking her on the couch.
It destroys everyone. Betas realise they're being played, women realise someone caught onto their bullshit, alphas get salty because their women are out spending time with losers.
>>64032975
>All women are overgrown children.
False, women are adults
>But in modern society women never have to. Someone will always bail them out or defend her horrible choices.
Someone actually believes this...
>>64033054
>Culture tells them to act like a "lady"
In what universe? Culture tells them to act as slutty as possible
>>64033026
>But what someone says they want is what they want, why would they say otherwise?
Because cultural conditioning.
It's not polite for women to say they fantasize about being raped and gangbanged and fucking as many guys as possible.
>>64033057
>alphas get salty because their women are out spending time with losers
That one is less likely, being a PIMP is something many men have elected to do of their own free will.
Also, that does sound pretty good m8. Like a 21st century american Lars Von Trier joint.
>>64033071
Feminism is all about women having to take less and less responsibility for their actions.
Even a black mom who plows into a crowd with a 3yo in her car will have other women defending her bullshit behavior.
The fact is that women don't want accountability. That's why they get turned on by men who command them around.
>>64017815
ex machina
>>64033190
I don't think they'd be too upset, but the guy coming home to see his GF all dressed up only to get an instant, practised "girls night out" response would probably make them a little uncomfortable.
Most pimps aren't in love with their whores.
>>64033119
>In what universe? Culture tells them to act as slutty as possible
True. But it's still somewhat shameful for women to be seen as "sluts" by men and women.
Slut walks exist, but only to make sluttiness less shameful.
And when sex is a real possibility, a woman doesn't want to seem "easy." She wants to make him work for it.
She wants to make it seem like she didn't already subconsciously decide whether to fuck him or not in the first 5 seconds of meeting him.
Even the most confident, alpha male has that happen to him sometimes.
The key is not giving a fuck. Don't put that bitch on a pedestal. Turn around and date someone else immeadiately.
All these normies on my /tv/, get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>64033428
>normies
This board is full of red-pilling faggots, a.k.a. the average /r9k/ poster
>>64033298
>a woman doesn't want to seem "easy." She wants to make him work for it.
Why? I'd love it if a woman was "easy"
>>64033604
A woman's only value is her hole. If she gives it up too easily, she can't make as many demands.
It's far easier to get a new 500 dollar handbag when hubby hasn't had sex for a month, because of the implicit reward. Giving it away devalues the only currency you have in a relationship.
>>64033710
“Most loser women, all they have to barter is their pussy. Men have so many other things to barter when it comes to the sex game and the relationship game. It’s not their fault, because they all do it, so there has to be nature involved.”
“You gotta understand that when you meet these women essentially they are losers. She HAS to get something out of her pussy, dude. She has to get dinner. She has to get a movie. How can she function if she doesn’t get something out of what she has?”
>this thread is still up
Must be a BOGO sale on Hot Pockets somewhere.
>>64028988
No on both counts. We met at work, became friends, started hanging out, things progressed from there.
>>64031280
More excuses. What else is keeping you single, anon. There's feminism, biology, Chads, what's next? Oil prices? Islam? Fall of the Ottoman empire?
>>64032272
>what's funny is you think because she swallowed your cum that she loves you.
Also that she tells me every day. And emails me. And texts me. And tells me that sometimes when she's having a hard day she says my name out loud and it makes her smile. For those reasons, yes, I think she does.
>besides, it's just a "girlfriend."
>you're fine if you literally don't give a fuck about having a committed relationship and just want to swap one sperm receptacle for the next, but some guys don't want that.
So because I call her my girlfriend you assume I don't actually care about her? Are you fucking dumb?
>>64033785
Lol don't even bother. I swear half the people on this site have the most bizarre, self-defeating attitude towards women. They hate when women have sex, but they also hate that women won't have sex with them.
Why they fixate on a girl fucking a few guys before them and not all the times she's had disgusting diarrhea or vomited or had a nasty bloody rag up her vagina is beyond me. Humans are fucking gross and their idealized pure clean virgin is a myth
>>64033785
>More excuses. What else is keeping you single, anon.
Because most women aren't worth the fucking effort.
And I'm sorry if I can't act like a narcissistic psychopath who only cares about myself 24/7.
Real actual women sent photos of themselves to the guy who shot up a movie thater in Aurora, Colorado. This shit turns them on.
>Also that she tells me every day. And emails me. And texts me. And tells me that sometimes when she's having a hard day she says my name out loud and it makes her smile. For those reasons, yes, I think she does.
And when she cheats on you? Or are you a cuck?
>So because I call her my girlfriend you assume I don't actually care about her? Are you fucking dumb?
You said you found a girl who accepts you just as you are, but she's just a girlfriend. That shit can be ended with a text message. And it will be. Two weeks after she starts swallowing some other guy's cum.
If you're 38, and if everything you said about yourself is true, her options must be severely limited to settle for someone like you (for the time being).
>>64018374
This guy holy shit
>1000 online rejections
>2000 real life rejections
>"i aim for the bottom of the barrel"
Elephant
>>64033930
>I swear half the people on this site have the most bizarre, self-defeating attitude towards women
Its really fucking odd to me that they turned a simple fact like "attractive women like attractive men" into a reason to hate all women, like its a secret conspiracy against them for being ugly/awkward/not a "Chad". As if they're owed sex and all women are in the wrong for both withholding it from them and giving it up too easily. Why not just stop being miserable hateful people and maybe you could have a nice relationship with someone?
>>64033930
>They hate when women have sex, but they also hate that women won't have sex with them.
Yeah. Sexual jealousy is a biological thing.
Because an animal that wastes their time and energy on resources on another male's offspring is a cuckold.
>Why they fixate on a girl fucking a few guys before them and not all the times she's had disgusting diarrhea or vomited or had a nasty bloody rag up her vagina is beyond me. Humans are fucking gross and their idealized pure clean virgin is a myth
For sex to happen in the first place, two animals have to get over any disgust reflex related to bodily fluids, which exists because of pathogens. Sexual arousal exists to overcome that disgust reflex.
And thinking about all the other dicks that have jizzed in there is not a turn on for most guys.
Besides, the more sexual partners a woman has had, the less likely she is to be monogamous or stable.
She's literally ruined.
There's a reason that virginity has cultural value.
For one thing, she's less likely to carry sexually transmitted diseases.
This is biology.
>>64034202
>This is biology.
And would you by any chance have a sperg out if someone claimed men are naturally violent, shallow and lecherous because of male mammal reproductive strategies?
Chronicle.
>>64034248
>ideal male strategy
>fuck lots of women and hope it sticks
>ideal female strategy
>fuck only the "best" male available, and then have a loser raise the kids
One of these is opportunistic. The other is blatantly deceitful.
>>64034158
>Its really fucking odd to me that they turned a simple fact like "attractive women like attractive men" into a reason to hate all women, like its a secret conspiracy against them for being ugly/awkward/not a "Chad". As if they're owed sex and all women are in the wrong for both withholding it from them and giving it up too easily. Why not just stop being miserable hateful people and maybe you could have a nice relationship with someone?
No. The hate comes from women saying and doing two different things.
"It’s intriguing—if not downright mystifying—how a woman’s mind and body, sexually speaking, can be at war with one another."
"It turned out that all the pictures [including monkey sex] induced physical arousal in [women]. However, when the women were explicitly asked which photos they consciously found arousing, their responses were much more selective."
"As Ogas and Gaddam sum it up: “Many women report lubrication and even orgasm during unwanted and coercive sex: a woman’s body responds, even as her mind rebels. In contrast, if a man is erect, you can make a very reasonable guess about what’s going on in his mind” (p. 70)."
"The results clearly showed that in males there was a strong correlation between objective and subjective arousal."
Feminists love to think that men think they are owed sex. No. Men are tired of women thinking that everything a woman is attracted to or fantasize about is perfectly fine, while male sexuality is demonized.
And women do withhold sex to acquire stuff. It's women themselves who don't want to seem like they give it up too easily. She has to get something for it.
Due to smartphones and Westernization, there are no "nice relationships" anymore. The Internet changed that. It can change in a second.
>>64034248
>And would you by any chance have a sperg out if someone claimed men are naturally violent, shallow and lecherous because of male mammal reproductive strategies?
If men are naturally violent, shallow, lecherous, it would be because generation after generation of females for hundreds of thousands of years have sexually rewarded that behavior.
It would be because violent men turn women on.
It would be because men who don't care what women are feeling, turn women on.
And what you call "lecherous" is just more demonization of natural male sexuality. She wants tons of men to be attracted to her. When that doesn't happen, most females fall into depression. It's why former female models have such a hard time growing old. They've become invisible and the attention they crave is dying along with them.
>>64017815
>What would it take to make a good movie about the modern beta male?
Just watch Nymphomaniac Volume 1 and 2.
The guy who listens to all her sexual exploits and talks to her like a real human being?
He's the beta.
Her
dudes so beta he gets rejected by a computer
>>64034415
>“Many women report lubrication and even orgasm during unwanted and coercive sex: a woman’s body responds, even as her mind rebels. In contrast, if a man is erect, you can make a very reasonable guess about what’s going on in his mind”
Just because women get wet when raped that means that can't ever be choosy, or are lying to themselves when they say otherwise? Is this really what you're getting at?
>Men are tired of women thinking that everything a woman is attracted to or fantasize about is perfectly fine, while male sexuality is demonized.
Have you ever met an actual woman? Not this feminist theory collective "Woman" but a real human being. Because I've never met one that "demonized" male sexuality unless you're being a creep about it or they're up their own ass about men in general
>Due to smartphones and Westernization, there are no "nice relationships" anymore. The Internet changed that. It can change in a second.
I have no idea what this means and I sort of doubt you do either
>>64018123
just start a vlog then
>>64033782
>tfw you realize this is the truth people have hid to you for your entire life
Betas bring it upon themselves.
It wouldn't be depressing, it would be hilarious.
