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Victoria Edition

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I want Ashildr to jerk me off with her feet
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FIRST FOR SERIES 9 IS PIGSHIT
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>twn be an era as comfy again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSIN3VvLCTU
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Reminder that finn died for nothing
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Reminder that Clara has the best feet of any companion ever
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>>63458888
I want to love and worship Jenna forever
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>>63458966
twn wn be an abbreviation, fuck off.
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>>63458958
FIRST FOR SAMEFAGGING
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>>63458888
Jesus fucking christ who let a Claracunt start the thread
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>>63459015
>swn tickle your dick with her toes
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>>63458765
>But when has Doctor Who ever made that a compelling aspect of their species?
I don't actually think the TV show has really had good uses of the Time Lords since The Deadly Assassin, but I also don't think the solution is to make them into ethereal gods that inspire awe in the viewer. I thought the idea in Hell Bent of the Matrix database being an underground hell guarded by tortured wraiths was cool though, there should be more things that actually bridge the gap between their vast, horrific abilities and their unimpressive personalities.
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When will Doctor Who get another companion that's good?
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>>63459126
Don't worry they will slowly disappear as their precious impossible girl fades from collective memory.
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>>63459126
>Claracunt
>Not Clarafag
Kill yourself please
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>>63459175
Plenty but none as good as Clara.
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reminder that series 9 is objectively best of nuwho and all of the critics and fanbase agree
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>>63459213
>VLC
>trying to bait
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>>63459175
>that drip

NEW POLL

http://strawpoll.me/6217039
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>>63459153
HGNNNGGHGNGHH YES YES
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>>63459213
Maisie spoiled it for me. Her two eps in the middle are bores.
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>>63459213
>needing to be reminded that you live in the golden age
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>>63459263
nah series 9 is the best deal with it cunt
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>>63459179
What will you butthurt Clara haters do when the spinoff comes?
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>>63459186
Fuck off cuntcunt
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>>63459298
I never said Series 9 was shit
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>>63459175
None can really hold a candle to Ms. McShane. I had hoped that clara might become an ace 2.0 with the SAM scene, but no.
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>>63459374
>SAM scene
what scene?
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>>63459300
Nick Briggs is probably planning it as we speak.
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>>63459404
The Zygon two parter. Maybe it wasnt a SAM. Some kind of rocket or grenade launcher? sorry not very /k/
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>>63459298
>>63459296
We heard you the first time reddit
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>>63459296
>needing to be reminded that GOAT Doctor =/= GOAT show
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>>63459213
this is some of the weakest bait I've ever seen, I hope you can get a refund.
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>>63458966

Clara's theme was legitimately shit
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>>63459441
you seem to be pretty interested in reddit
might want to go migrate over there
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>>63459454
Alright lads, tell me what exactly was wrong with sleep no more? Is your literal only complaint "In was not intellectually challenged enough by the conclusion"?
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>>63458888
>Unironically watching le wacky British man show XD

>>>/tumblr/
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>>63459441
>letting reddit determine your opinion by forcing yourself to be contrarian

think for yourself anon
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>>63459477
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>>63459374
Now I know who the other yes was.
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>>63459477
I bet you thought I Am The Doctor was a choon.
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>>63459300
Won't happen anytime soon she actually has a career right now.
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>>63459496
I liked it, I really want it to get a sequel that explains everything was a set up and that the real monster is much more terrifying than an eye booger
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>>63459548
>yfw gattis reedeems the episode in S10
>yfw its GOAT
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>>63459430
SAM just means surface to air missile, technically everything can be described as a surface to air missile due to the nature of the terms used, though you should probably just have said rocket launcher.
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>>63459496

The monster was incredibly dumb
'there's cameras inside ever particle of sleep dust' is beyond retarded
none of the side characters were likeable
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>>63459500
too comfy here anon.
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>>63459528

I thought IATD was incredibly repetitive and overused
It might have been cool in S5 but it overstayed its welcome

12's theme holds up better but it's suffering a similar fate of overuse, thankfully because it's a much slower and more graceful melody it doesn't feel quite as repetitive
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>>63459496
Golden age anon here but SNM was pretty shit. That and Flood are the only episodes of the run I would not watch again. Shit monsters that don't even have an interesting way of killing you to compensate for their utter lack of concept, bizarre camp setpieces instead of competently done horror, generally rather bland and boring...it tries a few clever things towards the end but on the whole it was a dire watch. Thanks Gatiss.
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>>63459578
>'there's cameras inside ever particle of sleep dust' is beyond retarded

How is this any stupider than a statue that can only move when you don't look.
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>>63459630
I thought the fisher king was cool until they took him out of the dark. When he walked outside he looked retarded.
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>>63459528
Majestic Tale was better
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>>63459669
I was more concerned by how completely pointless and anticlimactic he and everything else in the story was.
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>>63459603
Man the new TARDIS looks so much better with the yellow lighting. The green lighting they used when Smith was around made the whole place feel cold and dead.
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>>63459635

They're not statues, they're aliens. Aliens can have their own rules, they're science fiction
Sleep dust is a thing that exists in real life, and we understand what it is - it's science fact. To suggest there are cameras that wirelessly connect to wifi or whatever they said is idiotic and breaks suspension of disbelief because instead of making up new things that we can accept as possible it contradicts an established fact in real life
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>>63459669
that was a dumb move but that two parter was still great.
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>>63459521
Why was he so badass outside Doctor who but a massive cunt inside it? I feel they didn't use his full potential, sort of how they never made use of Peter Davison's amazing comedic timing.
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>>63459727
11 was a cunt?
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Karen, from twitter. Gaurdians
>>63459524
Hadn't voted yet. Check again. I check (You)s first. Voted yes. Although I haven't wanked to an "Actress" in years, there's no reason why I wouldn't. There's been some pillow/talk/roleplay type stuff surely.
>dat cow-catcher chin and jaw
Heavens to Betsy!
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>>63459727
>implying le quirky foot face had potential
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>>63459758
Perhaps I used the wrong word, I mean he was a faggot.
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>>63459374
>the number of yeses has doubled just 5 minutes after this jpg was posted
hmm
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>>63459727
Oh, I don't know. There were a couple of times when 11 was pretty menacing. The "don't ever think you're capable of that" bit, the sending a man to his death almost gleefully in Dinosaurs, Col. runaway maybe? idk.
>>63459816
Well that thorax is mighty inspiring, dontcha think?
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http://strawpoll.me/6217178
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So will S10 finally be the series where 12 doesn't get keked by his own companion/guest characters/villains?
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>>63459944
No
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Anyone think Jenna would be good at humiliation/JOI videos?
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>>63459929
>No Ashildr option
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>>63459929
I hope you mean this Bonnie.
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>>63459856
It's a shame she absolutely went to shit when she hit 30, now she looks like a transexual lesbian.

Spoiler warning: Don't show the spoiler unless you want your perception of Soph' sullied forever.
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>>63459990
You spelled Quasimodo wrong
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>>63459929
Your options do not represent my /who/fetish.
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>>63459929
>No option for Bonnie pegging you
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>Victoria edition thread
>No pics of qt Victoria

You're slippin', /who/
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>>63459929
>Bonnie riding your cock and squeezing your balls

Just thinking about this made me hard.
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>>63460063
That's just a bad photo. She looks pretty milfy in person.
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>>63460063
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>>63460063
Jesus, forgot to spoiler it. May God help you all.
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>>63460070

We've seen enough of your /who/ fetist tbqh
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>>63460140
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>>63460068
>le Quasimodo joke
dude, i know she is ugly, i still wanna fuck her, shut up
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>>63460063
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>>63459856
>>63460063
Even the thorax has gone today..
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>>63458888
Tell me an episode to watch with her in it.
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>>63460104
That's not the bloody queen m8
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>>63460176
zygon invasion
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tfw last good special was timelord triumphant

this one looks shittier than last years and that's saying something
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>>63460063
Well time makes transexual lesbians of us all friend. That's not the most flattering pic either. I don't think she looks too bad considering her age.
>>63460159
Oh /who/ you've just seen 1 maybe 2 of my fetishes, silly geese.
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>>63460217
They brought the Zygons back? Alright.
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>>63460014
I expected her to be more wrinkly...
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>>63460239
When your only decent photos are from 20 feet away with a microwave converted to a camera it's time to give up the meme.
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>>63460308
Which meme is that? And how does photography relate to it?
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>>63460294
I think she's gotten hotter as she's aged.
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>>63460353
The meme that Sophie is still fuckable.
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>>63460389
That's hardly a meme friend. That's just one assholes opinion on the internet.
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>>63460176
Asylum of the Daleks
The Snowmen
Bells of St.John
Day of the Doctor
Time of the Doctor
Robot of Sherwood
The Caretaker
Time Heist
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>>63460376
>implying this isn't Moffat's cardboard cutout
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>>63460389
>Mistaking memes with samefagging
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>>63460401
>>63460431
Everything that exists is a meme, you dips.
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>>63460444
Well you got trips, that must make it true.
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how much "money" would you pay to make "love" to jenna?
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>>63460376
and I thought Catherine was getting Skinner
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How did Lis Sladen when she was dying of cancer look better than tons of other former companions?
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>>63460482
Depends on what I had in my billfold. I'd be outbidded quickly and with little to no anger.
>>63460501
>wearing a corset without clevage
That's some bullshit.
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>>63460507
Because we saw her every week for 4 years straight
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>>63460482
All the fucking gold on Voga.
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http://strawpoll.me/6217354
http://strawpoll.me/6217354
http://strawpoll.me/6217354

UPDATED NOW WITH ASHILDR
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>>63460482
All the money I will ever earn
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You autists are still at it, eh?
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>>63460458
Capaldi let Moffat watch once
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>>63460580

Why does /who/ have so many footfags?
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>>63460654
>where_do_you_think_you_are.jpg
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>>63460654
I just voted for the clala option, take what I can get
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>>63460654
>Complaining about Foot fetishes
>on 4chan
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>>63460501
>losing her MASSIVE FUCKING MELONS

Catherine NO!
Why do women today want to be skeletons? We need something to hold on to.
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>>63460580
Stop trying to make Maisie happen. She's never gonna happen.
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>>63460628
Yes! SHUT THE DOOOOOOR!
>>63460654
/who/ is on /tv/. /tv/ used to be the "footfag and pedo" central.. /dwg/ and/or /who/ have been a fixture on /tv/ for a number of years now and /who/ for the most part has stayed the same. There's crossposting. It's mostly harmless.
>>63460748
>to hold on to
what they've got.It doesn't make a difference if we make it or not.
We've got each other and that's a lot.
For love we'll give it a shot.

what they got
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>>63460842
I get the footfags but why the others?
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>>63458958
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>tfw out of all the Hell Bent rumours the one to come true was clala getting a tardis and not peter capaldi singing
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>>63460879
The others? You mean the other sexual deviations? It's 4chan.
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>>63460913
Why this board in particular I mean? There aren't that many kids on TV.
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>>63460912
its ok.
they're saving it for his final story when capaldi sings out a belter
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I need more stupid shit like this.
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>>63460955
Not sure really, I guess /tv/ is the place to discuss disney and nickelodeon shows. You see dan shnieder threads now and again on here, i guess it's just some kind of association.
>>63460975
That's the best of the lot.
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Hey guys, I dont watch this show but I think the girl in it is extremely sexy. I'm sure I've missed many webms and pics of her doing lewd things on the show, or at least being cute. Requesting dumps of best moments
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>>63461072
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>>63460880
>>63460880
IT'S PIGSHIT SERIES 9 IS FUCKING PIGSHIT
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>>63460975
Apathy posters almost lost us the war, we needed a united What? Front, we wouldn't be here today if those splitters got their way.
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>>63461095
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>>63461095
Zygon Clala was truly sexiest Clala.
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>>63461106
what?
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>>63461072
She's dead you sick fuck show some respect
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>>63461095
Dam thanks bro
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>>63459711
>pointless and anticlimactic
>doc is the one who stole the battery
>doc is the one who caused the flood
>all in a standoff against an enemy so direct in malice being a genuine bigbad

I mean sure anyone with a brain could see every twist coming from a mile away, but I'd rather see it executed proper than a story that shits the bed trying to be overly convoluted.

Before The Flood was clean, tight, and refreshing with its bootstrap paradox theme to explain things rather than copping out with "timey-wimey" bollucks. Why hate that story for using fakeouts when so many that are highly praised get away with doing the same thing? It was far better than Gatiss's one off.
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>>63461246
"unreasonably attractive"
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>>63461072
>Even non-Whofags know of the beauty and power of Jenna
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>>63461299
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>>63461340
>>63461308
>>63461299
>>63461277
The actual perfect human

Why isnt she in more stuff
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>>63461340
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>>63461353
>>63461351
In the show retard
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>>63461354
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Literal perfection
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Somebody post the gif/webm/video of the two Claras hitting on each other, the ultimate Jennafriend masturbatory tool
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>>63461398
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When will we start sexy Donna posting?
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>>63461047
>that webm

Reminder that we need a Hell Bent edit of this.
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>>63461377
rulestard gtfo
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>>63461474
I want Adherents of the Repeated Meme to fuck off.
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>>63461500
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>>63461527
you fuck off prog
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>>63461518
tiny hands
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>>63461527
>Adherent of the Repeated Meme
That's like the perfect trip, damn it.
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>>63461588
shyte, wrong file
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>>63461596
i think that's all the s9 webms with clara in it i have
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>>63461639
Do you think they banged?
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>>63461270
>Before The Flood was clean, tight, and refreshing
By far the cleanest, tightest, and most refreshing part of the affair was when they got booted half an hour into the past, for absolutely no reason other than so we could a) have a sequence where the mopey male side character mooned over his dead waifu's sun-swept features and b) the Doctor could lecture him about not changing time, which we've never heard him do before ever.

I, too, was thrilled by the stunning confrontation between the Doctor and the (very memorable) Fisher King which ended up having no actual effect on the outcome of the story, as the Doctor had already (in a very satisfying, climactic piece of plotting) walked straight into the ship and moved the battery, while off-screen and presumably encountering no resistance.

On top of all this, it was a bold move to write a story with no underlying theme beyond 'bootstrap paradoxes exist in time travel fiction', but I'm certainly glad it paid off. Whithouse for showrunner.
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>>63461624
It's basically canon that Twelve raw dogged Clara in a post-regenerative fit, right?
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>>63461671
muffugin raven coming fo da haven
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>>63461398
tfw I'll never tie her up
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>>63461728
nope
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>>63461714
Sarcasm aside, your assessment of Before the Flood was rather sarcastic.
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>>63460912
He did sing in Hell Bent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyDgbBRoGPI
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>yfw Ashildr, through Time Vortex hijinks, eventually finds herself on ancient Gallifrey
>yfw Time Lords capture her cause she clearly stole a tardis
>yfw the Time Lords punish her by using a Chameleon Arch to make her into a mortal boy
>yfw that mortal boy turns out to be the child Doctor
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>>63461916
>>yfw the Time Lords punish her
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>>63461916
I want to play doctor with Ashildr.
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>>63461867
>ennui, the clip
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>>63462003
what?
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>>63461340
I'm gonna miss them.
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>>63462014
I don't understand your lack of comprehension.
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>>63461840
But was it clean, tight and fizzy?
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>>63462003
Film sets are like that.
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>>63462071
the very soul of effervence, my friend
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>>63461840
I know I went too far.
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>>63462108
Please stop being niggardly with your word choice and make it clear what you mean
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>>63462128
what?
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>>63462128
No need to be umami anon
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>>63461617
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>>63462227
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>>63462255
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So if those were the copies of Doctor in episode 11, does that mean that the original doctor died billions of years ago and the last one remaining is just a clone?
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>>63461714
>when they got booted half an hour into the past, for absolutely no reason other than
That happened because the Tardis wouldn't allow them to move anywhere else. The point was they were sequence locked.

>that entire second part
They're confrontation is what makes the story unfold in the first place. It's the origin of events.
I'm not arguing it wasn't flawed. Should they have actually SHOWN the Doctor doing these things? Sure. Should the Fisher King have done more? Of course, he was underused. My impression is he was enough of an established threat with the things he actually did end up doing (ghosts, outright murder, attempted ushering invasion).

BtF wasn't amazing, but it sure as hell isn't deserving of all the hate it gets. Let alone being lumped in the same pile as Sleep No Shit.
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>>63462295
The Doctor's been a copy since the 1960s if you believe that
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>>63462295
Every "copy" was the original as he was when he arrived from Trap Street. For all intents and purposes, it's still the same man who arrived billions of years before.
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>>63462305
In 50 years, Sleep No More will be seen as a masterpiece of the avant garde.
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>>63462305
I didn't even realize Before the Flood got any shit. That whole arc was probably my favorite story this season.
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>>63462377
McCoys comfirm
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>>63461714
>when they got booted half an hour into the past, for absolutely no reason

that's when the Doctor took the power cell to make the bomb to flood the whole thing you dunce. The fact that there was two of him running around gave him the chance to set that up. Do you need fucking everything spelled out for you in the simplest way imaginable?
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>>63462295
Oddly enough, if you think about it, the Doctor we have now is the original one, with the dead ones being the copies.
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>>63462490
what?
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>>63462519
>>>/reddit/
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>>63461530
awww
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>>63462288
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>>63461916
"I will always remember when the Doctor was Me."
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>>63462783
pottery
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>>63459213
>better than series 5
Maybe better than 6. Maybe.
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when and where can i throw my goy sheckles at the new screwdriver
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>>63462783
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>>63462810
>liking KEKOLDING: The Season
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Anyone else think Colin Baker is like a less talented Jim Broadbent?
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>>63462934
Colin Baker is just less talented in general.
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>>63463032
Hey, he's talented at some things.

Like raising goats.
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>>63462810
Who got keked in series 5?
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>>63463073
looks kind of fat and unhealthy to me. Also goats are a bit on the pudgy side.
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>>63463120
Entire arc is about Rory's fiancee trying to fuck another man who Rory is then forced to befriend after the other man kisses his fiancee. The other man makes penis jokes at Rory's expense. Rory is then so devoted to the woman who desperately wants to k e k him that he goes through melenia of bullshit and tolerates the presense of the "bull" at his own wedding.
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>>63463073
>you will never watch his special features with him
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>>63463243
This

I would've preferred just The Doctor and Rory going on adventures. Amy is a slut.

Are there any gay Time Lords? I mean, besides Rassilon.
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>>63459213

Reminder that series 9's viewership figures are the worst since McCoy's run and could get the show canceled again.
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>>63463325
and mccoys run was GOAT
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Seriously though, can anyone explain why they decided to shit on Rassilon so much in Hell Bent? I liked it except for how out of place his characterization seemed.
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>>63463325
The live ones are higher than ever abroad and there is a much higher online viewership now.
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Reminder that season 9 is PIGSHIT
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>>63462227
Neat!
>>63463306
The war chief
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>>63463369
Cause Moffat likes to fuck with everything RTD ever did
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I want to cum in Ashildr's shoes before she wears them.
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>>63463243
And yet, Rory is the only one that got to tap dat
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>>63463414
but classic series built him up to be a bad ass too. Normally Moffat at least likes older lore.
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>>63463441
Except for all the guys she immediately fucked during their separation until one of them gave her a modeling job.
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>>63463433
reminder that she looks like an alien child and can't act
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>>63463457
We know.
Classic Rassilon was just this mysterious dude who was kinda good, but still an asshole.

NuWho (thanks to the Time War) ramped the prick meter up to 11. He's a massive cunt who was going to murder every living being in existence to survive.

>inb4 Rassilonfags say he did nothing wrong.

Rassilon is a shit character and he did EVERYTHING wrong.

Omega and the Other are better characters - that's saying something.
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I'm so tired of you narrow-minded flapjacks calling Amy a slut.

She had to decide between a life without Rory or death, and she chose to die. That's good enough.
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>>63463509
Dont care, still wanna do it.
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>>63463523
She should've died sooner.

All the NuWho companions are shit, just like most of the Classic ones.

I want my renegade Doctor traveling alone.

>tfw no Series 10 with the War Doctor and the Time War on Gallifrey.

End it now family.
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>>63463523
Trying to kiss another guy at your wedding day is slutty.

But I don't care. Because she's an entitled abusive bitch and it's much worse.
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>>63463519
Fuck off Omega, Rassilon did indeed do nothing wrong.

Daleks had a massive fleet, Arcadia, the second most important city on Gallifrey and at the time the most heavily defended had fallen to an even smaller fleet of Daleks than the ones surrounding the planet. Gallifrey would've fallen and the Daleks would gone on to wipe the rest of the universe, those who would die last would just have to pray the Daleks didn't scavenge technology from the Time Lords so they could travel to other universe like nothing.

Universe was gonna die anyway, might as well take out the Daleks and save who you can
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>>63463457
Tbf he's taken the teeth out of the silurians and sontarans too. Not that either were too terribly frightening to begin with but they're pretty cuddly now
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>>63463682
Meh, I still think Rassilon shouldn't have been in charge. He was already too arrogant to think straight.

I'd rather The Doctor were in charge of the War Council and the High Council be suspended.

Also why didn't they just let the 8th Doctor bring his previous 7 Incarnations back at the beginning of the war? Before it was fucking Time Locked?
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UK ratings for this season were the lowest they've ever been since the show came back right (down 20%)

How have the US ratings been?
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I don't get the series 9 is shit meme
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>>63463894
People have impossibly high standards concerning things they deeply love.

Ergo, Series 9 was pigshit.
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>premiere: hell bent a shit 0/10 moffat out
>now: okay/10 clala & me when
>future: hell bent GOAT/10 can't smoff the moff

Calling it
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>>63463894
It's not a meme, it's the truth
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>>63463838
Apparently the international live ratings are higher than ever, and online viewership is up.
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>>63463820
>I'd rather The Doctor were in charge of the War Council and the High Council be suspended.

Nah, the war needed someone strong to lead the Time Lords. Even Doctor knew he needed to be a warrior, but a warrior isn't necessarily capable of leading or organizing the whole war effort and Gallifrey.

I do find it weird that the Doctor blames Rassilon for all the horrors of the Time War. Seems bullshit to me.

>Also why didn't they just let the 8th Doctor bring his previous 7 Incarnations back at the beginning of the war?

Would those Doctors really fight in the war though?
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>>63463838
Percentage-wise they are still impressive, it's just less people watch TV this day.
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>>63463523
>implying being a slut is a bad thing
>>>>63463820
>Also why didn't they just let the 8th Doctor bring his previous 7 Incarnations back at the beginning of the war? Before it was fucking Time Locked?

Well he's not canon obviously. I meme, I just want him to do the McGann Clan Can Can just for me.
>>63463838
Why are either relevant to a nonprofit tax/licensed funded network in 2015?
>>63463894
Some didn't like series 9 for whatever reason and are well assblasted about it.

ttfn /who/ <3
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>>63463943
Nah, I have pretty low standards (as evidenced by the fact I like and watch this syfy show Z nation, and continue to watch Supernatural, Vampire Diaries and The Originals) and no expectations/low expectations cause I literally can't hype, series 9 was shit
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>>63464052
I wonder if one day people will actually catch up to the fact that most people are watching shows either online through streaming services, shit like Google Play and Amazon, or just catching it days later with DVR's and shit like that. Live TV is a dinosaur and some people are taking forever to realize it's nowhere near as relevant or powerful as it used to be.
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