>What is Exalted?
An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.
Start here: http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/
>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?
Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial: http://jyenicolson.net/exalted/. It'll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.
>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?
Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. With the new edition, though, chances are more games will crop up.
Resources for Third Edition
>Pre-Layout 3E Leak https://mega.nz/#!4IIXVLZC!Nej_jw7d1UT6qOUI3_6zwVXSdWOml4oZbxHa95zyAJM
>Character Sheet & Init tracker: https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B3I6-eDu-lQ6aUZDaS14Tlh1a3c
>Collection of 3e Materials, including organised Charmtrees as well as comics and fiction anthologies https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t2arqtqtyyt28/Exalted_3Leak
>3e Alchemical homebrew Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcMUnb-2RQoPn6tATRSqmDkFvjD_vROp4nu5ls9vBqo/ (MF folder also has version 1.0)
Resources for 2.5 Edition:
>All books with embedded errata notes, as well as some extras: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/253ulzik1j9s5/Exalted
>Chargen software: http://anathema.github.io/
>Anathema homebrew charm files: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pka3nz3vqbqda/Anathema_Files
>MA form weapon guide: http://www.brilliantdisaster.net/dif/ExaltedMA.html
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/ua7tanepy2jfkdp/Exalted_2nd_Ed_-_Return_of_the_Scarlet_Empress.pdf
Resources for 1e:
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9vp0e9id3by6m/Exalted_1e
Backer PDF spotted tucked behind Duke Nukem Forever case in the clearance bin!
Thread Question : What's the least reasonable thing you have ever done with custom charms?
>>43216147
Least reasonable? Scene-long Sledgehammer Fist Punch maybe, or the charm to knock-back battlegroups.
Stalwart (Element) Host
Cost: 3m per soldier, 1wp
Mins: War 5,Essence 4
Type: Simple for one soldier, a minute long ritual for multiple
Keywords: Combo-OK, Obvious, Elemental
Duration: One Scene
Prerequisite Charms: Ramparts of Obedient Earth
There is horrors in Creation that can freeze blood in the veins of even the bravest mortals with their mere sight. Worse still, there is beings whose deceptive beauty and poisoned words easily bend mortals, no matter how faithful, to their will. But Dragon-Blooded commanders can bring an army with them even to the places where the human bravery falters and human will fails - an army made of Essence and pure elements. It is said that Immaculate Pasiap himself invented Stalwart Earthen Host as a mean to combat Anathema who was able to enslave any mortal and nearly any Terrestrial with a single glance, and this Charm gained widespread popularity among Dragon-Blooded officers since then.
The Dragon-Blood touches a large quantity of the charms associated element with his palms, and for every 3 motes spent on this Charm, one animated figure of an armed and armored soldier rises from the earth. Elemental soldiers have the base statistics of elite troops (Exalted p.280), except that they soak lethal damage with their full Stamina, and have no will of their own, obeying all orders of their creator unquestioningly. They follow normal construct rules.
Cont.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qFF2v8VsaA
Infernal or Abyssal? Or Exigent of some Forbidden God?
Seems to me like it could reasonably be an Infernal exaltation, except for the fact that he's dead.
>>43216511
At Essence 5+, experienced users of this Charm can customize equipment of their creations. If he does so, he can create soldiers with any mundane weapons and armor of standard quality, but all soldiers created by a single invocation of this Charm must be armed and equipped similarly. This Charm cannot be invoked if this user doesn't have access to large amounts of the associated element. If one of the created golems is destroyed before duration of the Charm ends, the Essence committed to creation of this particular soldier becomes free. All equipment is also made of the same element and both it and the golem dissolves into it upon death.
All created soldiers automatically have benefits of Enfolded in the Dragon’s Wings Charm, as if it was used on them by their creator.
Earth: Clay and soil golems.
Water: Flowing soldiers made of water with the purity of it's source.
Wood: Small trees and shrubs twisted into humanoid shape.
Air: Figures made of mist and cloudstuff. Touching them feels like resisting intense hurricane force winds, though they appear absolutely calm.
Fire: As with wood, but using mostly dried and dead branches and coal, most of their "flesh" is made of illusory flame much like the air version, only their skeleton is solid.
This might seem pretty reasonable, butit's the only homebrew I've actually used in game.
C&C welcome.
>>43216524
By Rage Recast Slayer.
>>43216499
I could totally imagine a group knockback Charm. How many anime/comics/etc do that nice big scene where the hero punches 1 guy and the rest go flying? It's definitely a thing in pop culture-Especailly Dynasty Warriors, which is listed right along as an influence.
>>43216858
The bee that stung her on the ass must be the mightiest bee in all Creation to make it swell that much.
>>43216873
You not familiar with booty, Anon. I am disappointed.
>>43216873
Also that be probably knew some form of martial arts, because it also broke her fucking spine in the process. Human bodies do not work that way.
>>43216899
About as familiar as many of these artists are with anatomy and proportion amirite? The tabard or whatever the hell she's wearing makes her look like she's got a monstrously deformed ass.
>>43216999
It's because the artist who did that pic is a hentai artist Square hired to do some work for some Japan only phone game.
>>43217069
I should have expected it, given the way she's suggestively clutching what looks to be a round sword.
Japan you so crazy.
>unreasonable charm antics
A whole tree of fertility-related charms capped at the top with a primae noctis deal wherein the first child concived by any couple within the area the solar consecrated would be the solar's, with the couple rolling off against each others stamina+resistance and the loser being replaced by the solar as the parent.
It was just supposed be a way to bind my character more strongly to the kingdom he was building and be a fairly mild and unobtrusive trip to my magical realm, more fluff than anything, but it turned out to have pretty major in game effects when things came to the final showdown and my character showed up with an army twice the size of anyone else's and made up of half-castes instead of heroic mortals and a smattering of terrestrials.
If the devs have explicitly avoided using Western Fantasy tropes, then what exactly is the East supposed to be? All the forests and rolling plains look like pretty much the perfect place for a more traditional fantasy feel.
Though, with Exalted's overall themes it would probably end being more like old European myth than LotR-style fantasy.
Fellow storytellers, is it me or in Exalted games people go out of their way to try to save the female antagonists a lot? I recently notice sending an unhinged insane abyssal woman at the party. Rather than them killing her like I expected, they managed to avoid that. I tried the same thing in a different campaign with a male, he was gibed.
>>43217226
I always felt the East read more into either sub-tropical rainforest (Cambodia, Thailand) closer to the Pole rather than Europe, with the Northeast becoming more taiga and the Southeast being more African savanna.
I dunno why. I'll have to read the 3e blurbs again. I always got a "hot and sticky and bound to give you foot rot" vibe from the East.
>>43217334
>Something-something-patriarchy-something-something-outdated-chivalry-something-about-enforced-gender-roles blah blah blahIt's the best I got at this hour.
It might be you. Then again, I've got what the internet feminists might call an "internalized misogynist" chick at my table who sometimes goes out of her way to comedic lengths to curbstomp evil females.
...either that or she's got a raging hate-on for Infernals. It's hard to tell.
>>43217334
It's probably because they want to sleep with them.
>>43217226
The Scavenger Lands and Hundred Kingdoms are pretty Western Fantasy Tropes. with further east becoming more native american (both north and south) with the north being more taiga and the south being more jungle
>>43217334
Because gamers know evil sex is the best sex. They're not trying to reform her, they're trying to get some of that sweet, sweet evil pussy.
>>43217488
>>43217436
>>43217425
...ugh. Yeah, one of the players did in fact have sex with the insane abyssal chick, yeah. The doctor of the group did try to help with her madness though, at least.
So fellow Storytellers, how do you portray Arcane Fate when your players are being screwed with by Sids. Just not give a detailed description of them or something? Or something more complex?
>>43217617
It's a well known fact evil gets all the best women, for the heroes to reform them with the power of dick.
>>43217688
https://twitter.com/TheOnyxPath/status/657263611115515904
It actually is happening. I don't know what to do now. This feels so strange.
>>43218280
Three days later... They might remember to actually release.
Lots of people claim they got the backer link, is it finally happening?
>>43218280
>>43218280
So, someone got it? Any major changes from the leak yet?
>>43218280
Alright when are you fuckers gonna upload the new PDF?
Soo, anyone got a link?
>>43218280
Just got my backers link now, downloading the pdf from Drivethru now.
>>43218337
People are receiving the download links right now.
Calm down, people. It still needs to be de-watermarked and stuff.
>>43218488
Are there watermarks?
>>43218488
There are no watermarks, Onyx Path does not use them or any sort of DRM. There was a huge bitchfest over them accidentally putting a watermark in Mage 20, which they promptly removed.
>>43218524
Sweet! All we need is a link, then!
>>43218540
I suspect the people that already got their link are busy reading
>>43218458
Here, put it on google drive.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzFaXUjIk56T1FyN3BGVU52MVk/view
>>43218548
How the fuck do I download it
>>43218548
That cover art is...interesting. Is that the final art?
>>43218580
I disabled downloading *trollface*
>>43218592
Why?
>>43218603
>*trollface*
There's your answer.
>>43218592
but no seriously, fixed it. Should be good now. That being said, please buy a copy if you enjoy the game.
>>43218610
And here I thought that was intentional and was internally applauding you.
I... I don't rightly know how to feel right now.
>>43218548
650 pages, god damn.
>>43218548
did you de-watermark it or otherwise protect yourself?
>>43218710
Nope. The post is only going to be up for the next 40 minutes before I delete it.
Now we must proceed to screenshot all the best art for future Generals.
>>43218710
Read >>43218524
What the heck is an Exigent Exalted?
Mahou Shoujo Mnemon-chan looks bemused on page 70
>>43218764
Oh anon...
why no bookmarks?! Ah well, I suppose I should be happy that we won't be seeing that laughing guy anymore.
>>43218764
Exalted of gods wimpier than Sol and Luna.
>>43218818
>>43218764
one-offs created my various gods for specific purposes which neither breed true like dragon blooded nor send forth an exaltation to reincarnate inside someone else.
dat Swan
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
>>43218834
Anon, they can do those things if designed to, but the god must sacrifice more to make them, so they are rare.
>>43218280
PRAISE THE SUN!
So, the big question.
What got cut when they had to condense it down to its new pagecount?
>>43218764
Exigents are the "in case of emergency break glass" button for the gods. In a true crisis, any god can gain permission from the Unconquered Sun to create a unique Champion, an Exalt who partakes of their essence. Exigents are generally about as strong as a Dragon-Blood, though some are *much* stronger. The consequence of their creation is that the god who made them loses a lot of his personal power. For very weak gods or very strong Exigents, it can kill the god that made them, so they're sort of a "Everything's fucked anyway so I might as well do it" tactic.
>>43218906
Gonna guess Charms. Probably tons of Charms. To of course be thrown into a sourcebook.
maybe now I'll be able to find a game of 3e
>>43218830
I applaud your dedication.
Page 212 | 213. I am face-palming, so, so hard. But, I guess this is what Backer PDFs are for, right?
>>43218858
That's how pretty Swan should be, though.
>>43218920
Nope. The devs said they actually *added* more charms during the editing process.
>>43218548
Link isn't working for me, just shows up with a "lol use some of these shitty apps to see it".
>>43218906
I imagine a lot of the terrible fucking formatting probably went a good way to cutting down the page length.
This picture just evokes 'fire goatse' in my head for reasons I can't explain.
>>43218946
Sounds like a personal problem, bro, it's working just fine. Better figure it out soon, cause I'm deleting it in about 15 minutes.
>>43218858
What the fuck happened to Dace
>>43218942
what's wrong?
>>43218830
I was never happy with you. But I take a sick glee in the downfall, so there's that.
I imagine we'll be quiet while things are being pored over.
lol some of the art looks like it was made in a 3D modeling program and then painted over
>>43218586
From Rich's message to backers :
>As I mentioned earlier this week, this EX3 backer PDF contains the complete interior of the book, except that this is not the finished cover, and the Index still needs to be created and added, along with the PDF bookmarks and hyperlinks.
I'll post some of the background art I got too,
This is a beautiful and emotional tryptich
Initial reactions mechanically on the busted shit in the leak:
Fate-Shifting Solar Arete and Thousand Courtesan Ways are unchanged. Ick.
God-King's Shrike/Dogstar Ruminations fixed. Fivefold Bulwark Stance fixed.
Hammer on Iron no longer ignores Hardness, which is a good thing, but FFFO and Ferocious Jab still make it easily the strongest offensive charm in the game.
>Reflexive Charms which create attacks generally do so with the Ability they belong to, unless the governing Ability can’t normally attack or unless otherwise noted.
Awesome.
>Thunderclap Rush Attack
>The attack in this instance must be made the moment the Solar blurs forward, and so this Charm can only be activated at short range. This attack counts as her turn for the round, and doesn’t have to be a Brawl attack.
Dangerous.
>>43218280
pics or it hasn't happened!
They didn't rebalance light vs heavy weapons. What a shame.
>>43219088
The new integrity stuff is pretty cool, too.
Bridge keyword lets you qualify for certain charms without buying the rest of the Integrity charm tree (i.e. qualifying for the meditation charms with a certain number of Martial Arts charms, rather than the rest of Integrity).
War still has nothing above essence 3 though. >.<
Literally the only artist I'm interested in for Ex3 is Melissa Uran. ...though I have to check the credits because I think the guy who does those crazy stained glass mosaics was tapped for some art. (Either that or they got a similar artist.)
>>43219041
Reading further it's everywhere - images that overflow from one page or another inadvertently, or aren't properly butted against the page edge when they clearly are intended to. I like the general visual style of the book, but I have to wonder how much attention they were paying at times.
>>43219137
Find your nearest backer and tell them to yell at the Devs about it.
>Table of Contents
>doesn't mention melee under charms
I wonder how much more is missing from the ToC.
>>43219169
Wait what? Fae and beastmen working together?
>>43219161
Yeah some of the formatting is off a little bit here and there. But so far this book is 100000% more readable than anything else WW/OPP have released.
>>43219211
It's better than fucking Werewolf 2e at least
>>43219201
Bruh, Fae have always employed wyld mutants. And remember being under the wyld's influence feels GOOD in 3e. It's addictive and powerful feeling; you get to be part of something huge, like a story, instead of just the random batterings of causality.
Assuming those aren't just more, bestial hobgoblins or whatever.
Did they send out a charsheet, too?
>>43219215
>>43219211
True that.
>>43219245
Right before the backer credits in the PDF
>>43219149
His pauldrons look much less ridiculous then they did in prior editions
CHARACTER RUINED
Page 181 legit looks like a dance battle about to go down.
>>43218906
It's even shorter than it seems, since there are about 250 pages of Kickstarter credits.
>>43218548
thank you
>>43219235
I'm pretty sure that's how Northern Hobs are described, or at least it's a possibility.
>Though the details of their appearance vary from place to place — furred and bestial in the North [...]
They also are written up using talon and bite attacks rather than weapons, which I wouldn't have guessed from the name.
Save vs. Badgerfear.
>>43219366
Only 20, but that's still a LOT of backer names at quad-column small font. I guess this is what happens when you overshoot your expectations so much re: participation.
Is page 248 supposed to be totally blank?
>>43219323
The guy on the right who got his fashion tips from MGS seems to be prepared.
Some of this interior art is reminding me of 5e. That "we want a painted, softer-edged look but we're going to hire artists who don't know how to do that so everything looks like it was printed on wet toilet paper" look.
Rose tinted nostalgia goggles time, I kinda miss the animesque art from 2e.
So, how many charms did they cut?
>>43219474
The book style overall is very 5E, IMO.
>>43219512
see
>>43218945
If you wanna crawl through the Charms chapter to try and disprove them, be my guest.
>>43219512
Allegedly, NONE. In fact apparently they ADDED Charms.
>The Lawgiver pens a soul-shattering missive, convicting her subject he leads a pointless existence. This Charm can only be directed at a specific target. [...] If she beats her target’s Resolve, his soul falls off and sinks directly into lethe.
>his soul falls off
Also someone needs to create charm trees because either there aren't in the book or i completely missed them.
Alright, deleted the doc.
If anyone else wants it someone else will have to upload it.
>>43219542
Yeah, Cup Boils Over was in the leak. It's awesome.
It especially paints how thin the line between Solars and Abyssals is: both of them can tell a guy he's so worthless that he's better off being recycled into worm food and someone else's soul, but for the Solar it has to actually be true for it to work.
I thought the falling damage was supposed to have been reduced, but it's still the same as it was in the leak.
>>43219558
They did some experimental Charm trees, but it was clearly shown that with trees as big as 3e's, they were completely worthless. Even middling-sized abilities like Dodge would have been either whole-page diagrams or 6-Charm chunks floating in a void of implied prerequisites.
>>43219514
It really is. So far I've only seen a couple of nice pieces (mostly the stained-glass mosaics at the beginning) but the majority is this ... soggy blurry mess. The watercolor effects are pretty on the page, but the accompanying attempt on the art is ... disjointed. Hell I think there's a bit of Exigent art in their splash page where the guy's face is out of line with his skull.
I'm not a professional drawfag by any stretch of the imagination but some of this is kinda embarrassing.
>>43219575
I haven't been paying attention to Exalted since early 2.5, so I don't know any of this stuff. Now just seemed like an excellent point to jump back in.
And poke fun at some of the doofy illustrations.
>>43218959
>>43218906
Evocations and antagonists section. Tons and tons of evocations are gone, but Evocations are way more flavorful now.
>>43219663
>but Evocations are way more flavorful now.
How so?
>>43219503
Yeah I think 2e was my favorite art-style
1e seemed to heavy on thick lines and stark caricature-ish looking characters
this, well this looks like >>43219474 said
2e's animu wanna-be art was a nice middle ground that got alot of the themes across pretty great
And now I wait for all the people who let extend their (justified) hate toward 2e mechanics into "EVERYTHING in 2e is literally worse than radioactive Ebola and 1e was a flawless paradise" to come out of the woodwork to insult me
>>43219663
And it means you no longer need to write a dozen charms for your artifact! Hoorah!
Okay seriously what the fuck did that bear do to justify the deformed hairy viking woman ripping him in half with a cartoon velociraptor.
Seriously. Shit's just uncalled for.
>>43219703
I found one piece by Melissa Uran so far so there is that. I prefer her black and white sketchy stuff, but it's something.
...at least there's nothing so far by the chick who always gave her characters big gooey eyelashes and camel toe.
>>43219088
>Fivefold Bulwark Stance fixed.
How is it fixed? It's pretty much unchanged. The only attacks it does not qualify against are those that
> "cripple the senses, such as those that cause blindness or dizziness, and attacks which physically stun the Solar (such as Ox-Stunning Blow). Poisons and illusions may also cut through the Solar’s Defense through use of this Charm".
None of the effects mentioned there are what makes the charm busted.
Anyone got a new link for this up?
>Page 481
>DEATH RAY
Bit 'on the nose', I think.
>>43219703
Why the hell do people paint 1e as a flawless paradise anyway? Was it really that good? I played one game of it and I remember rolling defense was annoying.
>>43219600
They could release them seperately.
Anyway i am sure someone will make them because it's much much easier to navigate charms when you have charm diagrams.
>>43219088
Mists of Eventide control spell unchanged.
Whips still don't grapple with Melee, even if they are Melee weapons with the Grappling tag.
Integrity's Energy Restoration Prana resets dailies in seconds, which is worrisome.
>>43219750
I've already got it ul'd to my google drive so sure why not.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-OPwsAFiVWNSE1ZNkFLSzVPaGc
>>43219760
>Why the hell do people paint 1e as a flawless paradise anyway? Was it really that good?
By comparison to 2e, it was, but taken on its own no, it was also massively flawed. Just, y'know, actually PLAYABLE.
>>43219760
It was perfection.
>>43219760
1E's mechanics were unequivocably worse in general. Solars were even more dominant than they were in 2E, and other than the Sids, basically everyone was worse off.
However, 1E's lore was a jagged mountainrange of "fucking awesome" highs and "fucking terrible" lows, which is much better for a lot of people than 2E's, which got rid of nearly all the highs in exchange for filling in only most of the lows.
So, uh, page 575. 3 o'clock looks very much to me like the cover of Crusader Kings 2, and I'm pretty sure 7 o'clock was a Steam event banner? Is this just me?
>>43219749
It's not proof against everything, now.
>>43219818
Err, crap, not CK2, a different thing that looked like it. Gimme a minute.
I can't take the horrific beasty seriously when the dude he's eating looks like that.
>>43219818
I've definitely seen the top right one somewhere before.
>>43219703
I can see where you're coming from, but I prefer 1e for the thick lines and the way it conveyed the general strangeness of the setting. 2e's art style felt too bland to me, though it did convey everything consistently.
3e's art is all over the map. There are a lot of pretty pieces, reminding me of the gorgeous Lot5r 4e book, but there are others that seem half-done or nonsensical. Like the 3d art. I think 3d in general doesn't belong in rpg book, but the 3d pieces are especially deviant-art level bad.
Though apparently the art was optimized for paper and not on a screen, so I'll leave my final judgement for when I have the book.
>>43219847
"AHAHAHA OH SHIT CARL THIS WEED IS RIDICULOUS. CARL?"
They missed War charms but at least Sex charms are noted in ToC
New Evos are interesting. Of particular note: Each arti now has a specific non-Charm power you don't have to buy if you fulfil the criteria (which Solars always seem to).
So basically Artifact powers have come back in. Probably the result of Arms of the Chosen dev work?
>>43219854
...3D art? There's 3D art?
holy fucking christ there is and it looks 100% straight out of Poser oh my god
>>43219900
How much did they reduce the Evocation counts?
>>43219909
Gaze upon my works and despair!
>>43219760
>>43219785
My real problem with 1efags (and the 3e devs) is that 2e's mechanics were objectively bad and there is nothing wrong with shitting all day on them. 2e's fluff on the other hand is a matter of subjective taste and yet people still act like insufferable cunts about it.
You don't like magitech? Think the Reclamation was pushed too hard? Oblivion being the end all be all for the forces of the Neverborn was bland? That's perfectly cool. But too often from Holden and Morte and on /exg/ you hear "this bit of 2e fluff was badwrong and anyone who enjoyed it as part of the setting is an idiot"
>>43219843
As I said, being able to counter the newly exempted effects is not why the charm is broken in the first place, it's completely negating onslaught & wound penalties for the entire the scene. Flow Like Blood, a comparable charm in Dodge, an ability that has *not getting hit as its sole purpose*, has the prerequisite that you need to have a higher initiative to ignore penalties.
This Abyssal is giving me some Symphony of the Night vibes.
>>43219909
They put a bunch of it right in a row, too. Horrid.
>>43219780
And the summon spells still don't have control versions
AAAAARMS!
>>43219949
I'm getting "another Deathknight from World of Warcraft sulking in the cemetery in Stormwind" vibe myself.
Especially since he doesn't know whether to look sad at the rose or if he thinks it's gonna bite him.
>>43219941
Should've read "being unable to counter the newly exempted abilities"
Still no reason at all to take Articulated Plate despite the greater cost.
Page fucking 153 has THE MOST POSER ASS POSER ART I have ever seen. Holy fuck. Who paid for that.
>>43219958
They were never supposed to, dope.
Xth Circle Demon is the most powerful spell in the game, period. Giving it a control benefit on top would be retarded.
If anything I would have expected a control PENALTY, but a superficial effect like Magma Kraken would be fine.
/exg/: art critic general
Though I do love how a good half of the discussion right now is about the art content.
>>43220043
Any idiot can look at wonky art and realize it's wonky, but mechanical aptitude is hard to come by.
>>43220015
I cannot fucking believe that they hired 3D goddamn artists for a corebook.
>>43220043
Art's easy to skim and this book has a lot of vaguely doofy art. Detailed mechanical analysis will come later.
It also has a man punching a gorilla.
>>43220043
>>43220053
>>43220068
And we've had the leak for who knows how long. Most of the changes have already been listed.
>>43219139
Take a look at Divine Mantle in Integrity.
Spirit Charms for all Solars!
>>43219558
I did them for the leaked version, but some jerk removed from the Exalted General OPs at some point. I'll be doing a new set this weekend using the backer PDF.
>>43219909
And people paid over $650,000 for this.
>>43220061
And I should have put artist in quotations in retrospect.
Anyone uploaded the backer pdf yet?
>>43220043
Even if it wasn't final, we've discussed the text for months. The art is brand new to us so it's to be expected that most people would focus on that.
>>43219818
One on the bottom left is art from Chivalry: Medieval Warfare.
>>43220020
I agree that they are very very powerful spells (maybe even the most powerful in the game), but still it feels odd not having a control effect.
>>43220084
>And people paid over $650,000 for this.
That was the KS grand total, wasn't it?
Did they spend the allotment for art all on hammers and toilet seats?
>>43220111
Definitely, I just don't remember which event.
>>43220084
>I did them for the leaked version, but some jerk removed from the Exalted General OPs at some point. I'll be doing a new set this weekend using the backer PDF.
I thank you in advance for your work.
>>43218280
>>43220111
Found it. What a hack. Hope they fire that dude.
The shield tag now means the weapon inflicts -2 damage, so dual shields is now merely hilarious rather than hilariously awesome.
>>43219985
Sugar, please go and take your shitty fusions with you.
>>43220154
IIRC there was a sale or somesuch that used it in that flipped and fire-ized format, though, making it even more blatant.
>>43219818
>>43220154
I'm fucking dying. This shit is amateurish.
>page 181
I spent all this time rendering the rain to look optimal! Who cares about their hands or how they're posed!
METAL
>>43220154
>>43220193
Somebody please post this on the Onyx Path forums or whatever
Oh my god her leg
>>43220214
If I posted it on the rpgnet forums i'd get banned
>>43220111
>>43219818
It is. It's this banner :
http://www.necdeusnecdominus.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/chivalry-medieval-warfare-15987-1920x1080.jpg
Reversed and slightly modified but clearly recognizable.
I don't know who this artist is, but fucking hell this is terrible. I've got nothing against using already existing art to help you get started on a piece, but you're not supposed to just copy-paste the fucking thing and add in a bit of yellow.
Here's hoping enough people notice and report that. I don't care if they have to remove it, I don't care if we have to wait another six month for more art to replace it. This is a disgrace and I don't want it in my premium book.
>>43220230
Which one?
>>43220234
Especially in a book that raised a six-fucking-digit Kickstarter. Jesus Christ.
Does Maria have a coke problem? Is that where the money went instead of hiring more professionals?
>>43220262
The one covered in her red dress with a tumor on it
Wait, Heavenly Guardian Defense lets you completely negate a surprise attack for just 4m? I know this was probably in the leak too, but damn. Now melee is better at surprise negation than awareness.
The question is, Anathema when?
>>43220275
Oh god that.
>>43220230
Me on the left
>>43219818
>>43219850
>add a cape
>add some arrows
>erase some birds
instant original artwork!
>>43220211
is that the fucking Quake font
Where's this from?
>>43219818
It's page 577, btw, not 575.
So is it shit?
As someone convinced to run the concept in another system is there anything worthwhile be it something neat in the crunch or fluff?
>>43220367
Sorry, I meant >>43220330
>>43220340
Fer fucks sake, can't these guys think of anything original?
>>43220230
Thought she was pregnant for a sec there.
>>43220214
I would be amazed if they didn't know about it by now. Heads gonna roll HARD.
>>43220371
Rules wise it's actually pretty good, fluff-wise it's competent but a bit too up its own ass about being ~mysterious~, but more places have more flavor than they used to (Corebook to Corebook).
Use 3E.
Top image: Invokes preternatural feats of stealth, standing unseen and hidden in plain sight in a group of enemies.
Bottom image: Does not evoke 'stealth'.
>>43220272
I don't want my message to be interpreted the wrong way, so to clarify, I do not think this is anybody's fault but the artist themselves. I don't expect anybody at Onyx Path to be checking to tracing, it's not their fucking job, you should not have to suspect the artist you're paying of trying to rip you off.
The artist is entirely responsible and should be blacklisted. Fuck, OP's probably the biggest victim here, if the IP holders for Chivalry discover that their banner was lifted almost wholesale and put in another company's book they could very well sue.
Incidentally, it would be nice if we could determine which other parts of the picture were stolen and from what, or even other pieces by that same person, before we bring it to Rich. I don't want this to look like we're claiming OP's trying to rip us off on the book's art, that would be counterproductive and would only help in shutting off the dialog.
>>43220453
Permission to reference a shitty web series no one likes.
If it's just in the backer PDF, that means it isn't illegal yet, right? They have to publish.
>>43220468
Agreed.
Is it possible however that they also GOT THE RIGHTS to these images?
>>43220468
Yeah, let's please be reasonable and understand that /holy shit everyone should be upset by this but OPP most of all/.
>>43220468
Yeah, as someone who drawfags for money? A lot of the art in here is fucking SHAMEFUL. I'm not an "industry pro" or even in the industry, I just draw porn on commission, but you have so many artists in this book who are just not even trying.
The badger picture? That artist should have, at some point, just fucking told Onyx Path that he couldn't do the picture. That isn't just mediocre art, that is someone who shouldn't be selling his shit.
>>43220453
what kind of person gets a sideboob tattoo
>>43220477
Granted.
>>43220367
Imperia Online, a shitty F2P browser game, apparently.
>>43220371
The combat system is genuinely interesting, as long as action order changing each turn doesn't scare you off. It basically uses your Initiative as a second tier of hit points, and different powers interact with that versus normal Wounds in different ways.
It also means it keeps the "you can die in one hit" thematic feel without PCs actually having to worry about dying in one hit, since they're skilled enough to have their Initiative as a buffer.
Also, the sorcerous works system is interesting, and most Charms are at least serviceable.
The major problems are
- the minor but pervasive mechanical clunkiness inherited from 2e, like the arrangement of Abilities
- Craft being so dumb, seriously, so dumb
- Martial Arts now being a huge point sink, so it's even dumber than in 2e to actually be a martial artist
- way too many Charms that just do stuff equivalent to "get +1 or +2 on rolls in X situation"
>>43220468
Oh I agree, the artist who painted over existing artwork and then got money for it should be fired and blacklisted.
But the artwork of the whole book minus like ... three pieces so far (and the sigs art is pretty okay is ... kind of a lot of shit.
>>43220502
Me.
>>43220340
>>43220415
It's not.
http://www.dafont.com/fr/quake.font
>>43220211
>THC Cxalted
What is this new drug?
>>43220391
found it the same way I bet the artist did.
Google image searching "dead knight arrows"
>>43220508
Let's be honest, they probably stole it from somewhere else.
>>43220503
Okay then
>=]THIS SORT OF COCKFONDLING IDIOCY MAKES ME ABSOLUTELY LIVID[=
That was my rendition of the Emperor from the that whole Text-to-Speech device thing.
>training times STILL in the book
Who fucked up? I want them fired.
>>43220501
As another person who drawfags for money, I agree whole-heartedly. It's pretty deviantart tier.
>>43220518
I'd actually say that there's enough actually good art in the book that makes the bad art stick out even worse.
Like, you go to page 153 and have some SHAMEFULLY bad poser art, and then like 3 pages later, you get this. The art for Obsidian Butterflies? Good. The art for Death Ray? Good. Art on page 488 in Sorcery? P. fucking neat.
There is just such a startling contrast between the competent art and the bad art, to the point where I can't really say there's much MEDIOCRE art in the book!
>>43220477
I think that's a reference to that one pic in Masters of Jade where a Lunar steals a Solar baker's cake and eats it all.
It's kind of hard to tell because the Lunar has shitty green tattoos instead of moonsilver, but yeah, fuck that art.
>>43220084
>I did them for the leaked version, but some jerk removed from the Exalted General OPs at some point. I'll be doing a new set this weekend using the backer PDF.
They're in the folder!
Also here's a copy of the book on mega
https://mega.nz/#!hwcRDRoB!Ckli9hOWYBUueKr1LUBIoVDbaBWWmjglQIkt48t_vJ4
I'm not putting it on my MF yet though
>>43220468
>it's not their fucking job
It's most definitely SOMEONE at OP's job to suspect that.
>>43220546
You mean Imperia? I don't know if shitty F2P browser games are as notorious for stealing art as they are for stealing your money.
12 pages of sex charms, everyone!
>>43220550
Eh?
>>43220230
WHAT
THEY FUCKING MUDBRUSHED OVER GOOD ART BECAUSE OF SOME IDIOTIC COMPLAINS ABOUT EXPLOSED LEG?
>>43220601
Sounds like Exalted, all right.
>>43220544
oh, an it's only the 9th result by the way.
Way to keep it subtle, plagiarism guy.
>>43220615
>good art
kek
>>43220615
Yeah I'm pretty pissed about that.
>>43220569
Considering that we waiting so long for the art to get done
>>43220513
> Martial Arts now being a huge point sink, so it's even dumber than in 2e to actually be a martial artist
... You do realize you can buy MA charms with Solar XP, right? That's the whole point. You can advance your Solar charm progression and MA charm progression at the same time.
>>43220572
Agreed completely.
>>43220601
Wait, really?
God the new rulebook is slowly turning into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijMgD4IsJx4
It's just as embarrassing as the Digmon movie.
>>43220593
No it's not you dingus, because there's only one person at OP proper (Rich) and the rest are freelancers. In any case, you should never have to suspect an alleged professional artist you're commissioning is sending back stolen art. The artist is the sole person to blame here.
Maybe I'm weird, but I kinda miss the 'clean' feel of the pre-layout leak in terms of "just text, ma'am"... maybe that's just Stockholm, though.
Not for the print book, obviously, but for a working document.
>>43220638
The art itself isn't bad - it's anime tier and you wonder how she's actually SITTING on that "throne", but smudging shit over her leg because of amg exposed skin brought the quality of the whole piece down.
>>43220642
Pretty much.
Though Volfer in his magic underoos on p249 is pretty fucking magical.
>>43220654
No. It's still the 2 Charms that were in the leak. He's making a joke about how the Table of Contents goes straight from Sex (168) to Ride (180).
There's 11 pages of Presence Charms between them.
>>43220601
There's also rules for Syphilis.
>>43220642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-OLi4mnSho
Can somoen make gif of the Keyboard headbutting bit? Because that's EXACTLY how I feel about the art in this.
