Post military/combat vehicles that the imperial guard/astra militarum would drive around and or use in combat, be it real life or fictional military vehicles from different settings.
>>48319280
>tfw it has better technical characteristics than Leman Russ and Land Raider
We live in DAoT
>>48319280
Is this a thinly veiled "I need pics of cool vehicles for my next Only War campaign" thread?
>>48319307
>>48319357
>>48319280
>>48319297
>leopard 2A4
>has better stats than a Leman Russ and Land Raider tank
Really? Why's that? Care to elaborate as to why a modern day main battle tank are much better than imperium tanks? What next? An American M1A2 SEP would be superior than an iconic Baneblade? Just curious why
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>>48319375
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>>48319360
Sauce of pics please?
So basically those are Imperium armored vehicles if they were actually made and designed practically and well made, as opposed to being cartoonishly large and having cartoonishly, or comically over sized turrets and retarded looking?
Posting for a neat looking futuristic tank thats a mix of a German Leopard and Israeli Merkava. i propose and or vote this as a new main battle tank for the astra milliatrum to replace certain existing imperial tanks.
Hey what about police vehicles that Adeptus Arbites can ride and use? Posting one!
>>48319394
>Sauce of pics please?
St Theo on DeviantArt
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>>48319297
You're looking at effective millimiters of material but the composite armor of a land raider or leman russ might be several orders of magnitude more resistant than todays composite armor.
>>48319368
Some dumb GW writer once wrote stats without thinking about them and /tg/ autists ever since wank about muh paper tanks.
>>48319562
I'd guess that too but GW author listed 98mm of Land Raider armor as equivalent to 300mm of steel.
>>48319562
but our "millimiters of material" can't defend tank against AT weaponry, only because of reactive armor they are not death-trap on tracks
Surely IG's can use this.
https://youtu.be/CW6PsbfBiRw
>>48319792
>Military equipment will never get to the levels of silly they were during WW2 with tank development ever again
Worst tank ever.
>>48319835
The Cold War was much sillier.
Multilaser.
>>48319562
I think he's more looking at speed, silhouette, and stuff like that...
>>48319368
Because they go faster, probably further, have lower profiles, and early fluff gave them inadequate armor (until it was refluffed to be the physical thickness instead of effective thickness)
Can you drop a Leman Russ from Space without burning in the re-entry or destroyed by the impact?
>>48319280
I want to include "magic" tanks in my next campaign. How do I make combat fun for the whole team playing in a tank?
Can anyone point my to a system that has rules for tank combat?
>>48319632
I'd like to see that, got a pic?
>>48319632
GW also listed the muzzle velocity of some 40k guns being less than airsoft.
Brits have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to weaponry.
>>48319852
>le m3lee may-may
>>48319632
"Conventional steel" and it has been used interchangeably with "plasteel" in the fluff.
>>48320286
I love it how people keep pushing this like it's a thing.
1) It was a Forge World book.
2) It was a homemade pistol used by criminals (or in this case by heretics).
3) It's shit even in 40k.
4) There's real life weapons with equal ballistics, such as the 6.5mm Bergmann.
>Muzzle velocity less than airsoft
With a bullet weighing several dozen times more. Didn't they teach you kids anything about kinetic energy in school?
>>48319852
Hey now, my best match was in a Lee.
A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL-
Wait, never mind, it IS Metal Gear.
>>48319280
This is what most 40K armor reminds me of, sorry.
>>48320114
That actually seems like something they'd drive.
>>48320770
Well... 40k was pretty much made as a reason for people to buy GW's "modern" army minis (just as Warhammer was to sell more Fantasy and Renaissance minis). Much of the original Imperial Guard line was repurposed Napoleonic, Victorian, WW1, WW2 and Vietnam stuff.
>>48320547
In 40k criminals have nukes. But that's above relevance. Guns are extremely simple to make. Not that you can't do it badly, but it's not difficult. Autoguns and stubbers ar commonplace in 40k and I'm guessing it was one such?
FW and GW is terrible with statting weapons. Assume they screwed up.
Coy mirror.
>>48322693
Commissar model CV.
>>48322812
Derp.
>>48322828
Gaunt model CV.
>>48321010
>I'm guessing it was one such?
No, it was a stub gun. Stub gun which in fluff are utter shit, used by lowest of the low gangers and criminals. Equal to a 20th century handgun. They're shit in the fluff and when FW gives them shit stats to reflect this (yet equal to a real life shit cartridge), people lose their collective shit and now a volcano cannon can't even warm a cup of tea.
Christ people are retarded when they get mad.
>>48323958
>(yet equal to a real life shit cartridge)
Yeah, I'mma need you to back this bit up, at least.
>>48323996
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Bergmann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Schofield
>>48319394
>St. Theo
>practical designs
>laughingengineers.jpg
That guy overstylizes his shit worse than GW and does it in a boring as fuck pseudo-realistic tacticool 'style'.
>>48324163
the bergmann even looks similar
>>48319767
this son of a bitch is the best vehicle in the game. better armor and speed than the rhino, faster and more firepower than the brickade.
>>48324163
Thank you. I misread your post anyway, but thank you.
>>48319280
Take a WW2 vehicle, 40k-ify it.
Bam, you're done. Just look at the Ragnarok. It's pretty much a KV-2.
>>48319854
WW1 was worse.
>>48324163
>Pistols are less accurate than lasers and anti-materiel rifles
Go figure
>>48324624
The Russians were at one point in love with the idea of wheeled tanks.
>>48325054
Chrystie designs.
I feel like the T28 could fit in just fine if 40kified some.
>>48325635
I always think of this as a proper imperial design
>>48324484
Is there an actual site that sells this?
>>48325054
ruskis were all about easy maintenance, wheels are simpler than tracks
>>48325054
I hope you realize that that is in fact NOT a wheeled tank, but a tank with its tracks taken off...
>>48319434
Not enough guns or armor, how do you expect to quell hive riots with a standard police car?
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>>48322828
Ain't this an Oshkosh Gurkah?
>>48326088
Nope, Christie suspension. BT tanks could drive with their tracks off like they had wheels.
>>48319280
!Bolos are a pretty good contender.
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>>48324484
>king tiger
its clearly a tiger 1
>>48326325
Ram into them at high speed.
>>48320238
>>48319368
Because the armour stats that GW wrote way back when has even Land Raiders having effective armour thicknesses that would be weak by the standards of the 1970's.
>>48320547
I've learned that a 5.56 round has lower weight but higher velocity than a musket ball. Guess which one is more effective on the battlefield.
>>48327499
Probably could but wasn't designed to. Hence those little wheels on the front not touching the ground is for rotating the tracks. Hell you can even see the tracks sitting on the side of the tank.
>>48319280
>>48319434In the grimdark future: The police/Adeptus Arbites still use Ford Crown Victorias
>>48330514
Still doesn't mean a musket ball can't fuck you up. A fraction of a gram BB has to have a lot of speed to do anything, but a bullet with several grams of weight can kill you at lower speeds. That's why a tennis balls and a rock thrown at you with the same velocity have very different effects.
Nobody, not even 40k fluff, has ever said stub guns were good weapons.
>>48330618
Yes it was, that is why the Christie suspension was chosen. You could ride into battle on wheels (meaning less wear on the tracks) and then put on the tracks before battle. Of course they were rarely used that way because it was inconvenient as hell to have to put on the tracks when you arrive near the frontlines but that was the purpose.
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>>48332998
"ATTENTION CITIZEN."
>>48334148
Got to remember that it's an inter-war period tank, a time in which a lot of modern weapon systems and tactics were being worked on.
>>48330514
m8, muskets amputated limbs with single shots.
A musket is less effective because it's inaccurate, slow firing, jams and smokey.
A musket's muzzle velocity and projectile weight are no fucking impediment to battlefield effectiveness.
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>>48319368
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>>48330692
>all these leopard 2 tanks
>have this strange feeling to post this drawthread pic of an IG and commissar cleaning a leo 2a7
>>48328843
Do the police really need an MRAP like that? No I'm non of that liberal pansy 'we-dont-need-the-2nd-amendment' libs. Just why for the sake of curiosity. Also posting the MRAP everyone would know.
Posting jeeps/utility vehicles that IGs can use
>>48328843
Well that looks like something the Adeptus Arbites would likely use
>>48326325
>Not enough guns or armor, how do you expect to quell hive riots with a standard police car?
Maybe the Arbites WOULD use that as a standard patrol cruiser, you know? Like what actual cops would drive around in when fucking patrolling or responding to calls? You fucking imbecile.
But fine just to answer your question, in the case of quelling riots, pic in left and >>48328843 should answer your question.
>>48334892
>remove crown victoria
>replace with taurus sixth gen
