>That player that insists on crawling across his sword instead of jumping over the gulf
lmao
>>48275121
Is he also on fire?
>>48275466
You DON'T crawl over swords while on fire all the time?
>>48275121
I love medieval art, it can get to fucking weird.
>>48275569
>"Um. Crap. Crap. Don't moveyour head, I can, um...I can fix it!"
>>48275569
Some of the best stuff is the uncanny valley pre-Renaissance stuff. It's not as "haha wtf" as old illuminated manuscript stuff, but it's got a certain ironic appeal to it. Like the tiny-adult babies and facial expressions that seem to communicate the wrong thing...
The best part is how, generally speaking, it's otherwise pretty high-quality work.
>>48275121
Why didn't he leave it in its sheathe? The it wouldn't cut him.
>>48275676
That baby is far too into that neckline. Like, I'm pretty sure we're witnessing a fetish being born.
>>48275999
This just in: Jesus had Oedipus complex for Mary.
>>48275900
Sheaths are for women.
>>48275900
Scabbards are for arming swords, not greatswords.
>>48275531
Shouldn't he just drop into the moat? To put out the flames?
Why did monks have such a fetish for drawing knights fighting snails?
more snails
Hares, another natural
enemy of the garden variety knight
The truest horror is when snails and bunnies fight together
Saved some of these gems from /his/
>>48276775
I read somewhere that they were supposed to represent the French
Another one
>>48276846
Interesting, although that does not explain the bunnies.
And finally, an all-time classic
With that, I must leave you
>>48275121
>>48275569
>>48276775
>>48276791
>>48276797
>>48276814
>>48276827
>>48276841
I don't just want more of this, I actually need more of it.
>>48276898
You're in luck
I actually remembered I have another folder
So I guess I'm not leaving just yet.
This pic pretty much ends all "but that's a wyvern not a dragon" discussions.
>>48275121
>But it's what my character would do!
>>48276846
>I read somewhere that they were supposed to represent the French
That's weird. Don't the French eat snails? Isn't that like using rabbits to represent wolves?Or is that what happened to all the giant snails?
I assume you all know this one by now, but here you go anyway
I've got a few personal favorites.
>>48276927
Kinda reminds me of those Pepe and Wojak images, where Pepe is a smug shit and Wojak is just... Wojak.
>>48276923
>Implying Frenchmen have the courage of wolf
>>48276944
Probably because there's a pepe/wojak edit
>>48276942
>>48276959
There was once a story about a bull that killed people with the force of his shitting. Don't remember what it was called tho, but this is based on that
I'm not shitting you
>>48276775
This is what not being allowed to have a good wank in a monastery for 20 years will do to you.
More bullshit
>>48276927
>No, paw. Ol' Red is my dragon. I'll put him down.
Snails and bunnies are back for revenge
And this time, man's best friend is man's worst nightmare
>>48276998
What? You gonna cut me with that thing?
I'm out, hopefully OP has more. doing god's work.
Bunnies don't know what "no" means
>>48277051
I'm not OP
I'm just giving a
>single line of meme-arrows
thread a purpose.
>>48277070
YAMETE
You might be creepy, but you'll never be "12th century dragon cuck fetish" creepy
Satyrs versus Snails, coming to theatres near you.
Snails vs. Knights was probably just an early meme.
Shit just got real
>>48277124
Makes sense, monks were just early NEETS living on welfare who couldn't get any and were always mad at those chad knights.
They evolve
Thus ended the Fourth Rabbit-Humanic Wars
>>48277124
>snail uprising when
Remember, peeing is the best defence against bearded snails
>>48275676
Art seems inexplicable.
>have decent, naturalistic paintings in Roman times
>fug it up for the next 1,000 years
I guess the explanation is art is often not about looking representational, but just being "art", but you would think something that looks objectively more attractive would be more popular.
Old depiction of a bunny sheepherder guiding his flock.
>>48276897
>"Do you mind?"
>ohokay.jpg
And as this lion plays a sad tune of a violin, I must depart.
Hope you enjoyed the dump.
>>48277208
Good thread, thanks man.
>>48277193
>What the fuck? I don't remember packing a bunch of dogs.
>>48277190
>you would think something that looks objectively more attractive would be more popular
you'd think, but thenyou remember postmodernism is a thing
>>48277140
Just watch Cadfael, it's all there
>That episode where Brother Jerome wants roasties to get out
>That episode where they bully a girl until she kills herself
>That episode where a tumbler visits the monastery
>>48277286
>but then you remember postmodernism is a thing
>>48277286
>you remember postmodernism is a thing
I've been trying to repress this feel
>>48277286
Yeah, but in modern times post-modernist (and other "arty" art) art is only popular among a certain pretentious crowd, where the masses consume art that DOES look good. We probably live in the best era of art yet, it's just that popular art isn't even considered art, it's just an aspect of visual entertainment.
Thinking about it now, though, in much of history art was paid for and (mostly) consumed by a small number of elites, so if those elites decided they wanted to look at ugly stuff I guess there was nothing to stop that from happening.
Monumental art (i.e, statuary) which is intended for mass consumption seems mostly attractive, so I guess it checks out. To be fair, Fayum paintings are an exception. What's interesting to me is that in the era when you had such gorgeously representational statuary (the classical era), most paintings were still so unrepresentational and shitty. Did all the good "artists" just go statuary instead?
>>48277097
>Dark Souls Priscilla lore
>>48277190
>I guess the explanation is art is often not about looking representational
The art isn't in a vacuum; there were other sociocultural factors influencing the quality of the art. The fall of Rome left Europe in tatters. They're called the Dark Ages for a reason. The drawings are bad because the socioeconomically regressive era that followed the fall of Rome didn't manage produce any generations of artists that could fucking draw.
>>48277374
>Did all the good "artists" just go statuary instead?
Possibly, though it could also just be a lack of readily available materials. Or even a lack of ways to preserve art beyond sticking it in a monastery.
I'm not well educated on the period.
>>48276827
That's actually a parody of the rest
Notice the rabbit's confusion and the human head
90% of manuscript illustrations could be redrawn in the late 80s gw style and fit perfectly into the margins of realm of chaos.
>>48277303
>>48277357
Postmodernism isn't bad; it's just different.It all depends on your perspective.
>>48277473
>>48275121
> - It is hard to fuck a sword
> + It is not impossible to fuck a sword
Another one on the topic of art
>>48275121
Nice sword.
>>48276877DRAGONED.COM[/spoiler}
>>48277588
are those just buttholes
>>48277574
>>48277588
Welp.
>>48277615
I think so.
Every time I learn more about the world, I'm convinced further that there's some sort of joke I'm not in on.
>>48277374
>that pic
anime is older than we thought
>>48277615
Yep
Just buttholes.
At high res
The only thing he really did was getting the lighting right. Other than that he just had to spend money on a great camera.
The definition of art in modern days is two things:
>originality, no matter the cost
>shock value, despite everyone being desensitized already
That's how you get buttholes. That's how you get vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKFZOIv5sS0
That's how you get your "art" thrown into the garbage by accident.
There's also a vid somewhere on youtube of a girl in art school doing her final preformance: she eats mexican food, gently straps herself of her clothes and then takes a shit.
That's it. She does that, bows in front of her peers, and gets a serious applause. Can't seem to find it tho
>>48277588
Hitler's shit looks very amateurish
Regardless of the subject, the anus paintings are more impressive technically I'd say
>>48277708
>paintings
ha ha ha
>>48277588
>bland fucking motel-tier art we've all seen a thousand times
>some madman artist actually got some gallery to agree to put fill their walls with actual assholes
The second is way better. At least going to an art gallery to see a collection of high resolution assholes sounds like a surreal and fun experience. I could invite some friends, it would be a memorable experience.
Viewing the first is just a complete waste of my time.
>>48277708
those are photographs
>>48277708
The thing is, technical photorealism isn't what people win prizes for. There's far more worthy photorealistic art (and general realism).
He won because they were assholes, not for the technical skill involved.
>>48275121
The story implied the gulf was a little bigger than that.
>>48277500
>implying it's a mistake to call that kind of installation trash
>>48276897
Oh, I didn't realize the barn scene in Another Lady Innocent was based on history
>>48277717
If you knew you had a shot at 30 million by taking pictures of some literal assholes you'd do it too
>>48277708
>Hitler's shit looks very amateurish
They are, but they're still a ton better than most of the shit being produced today.
>anus paintings
Those are photographs, anon.
If those were paintings, that shit would be great
>>48277707
Wrong video my man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY
>>48277760
I'm not hating the player, I'm hating the game
>>48277733
If I wanted a surreal and fun experience I can go to something that is not an art gallery. I can go watch high res pictures of assholes from the comfort of my home.
I go to an art gallery for art, not buttholes.
Reflect on yourself and realise you're arguing the merit of art is defined by how much of a naughty giggle you can have with your mates
>>48277801
At least a naughty giggle is something, is what I'm saying. I've seen wallpaper more interesting than Hitler's art.
>>48277793
I didn't post the wrong video, that's indeed a different one and I said I couldn't find the one I was describing
But that's indeed the one I was searching, thanks mangor actually fuck you, this makes me depressedbut thanks
>>48277708
Those are printed.
>>48277708
You're correct on Hitler's painting. That one would look good if he had worked on the details and cleanliness of the image.
>>48277500
I'm not sure if that trashcan is the one she tossed the "art" into or part of the exhibit that she missed.
>>48277822
And I've seen buttholes more interesting than that guy's
>>48277844
Welcome to art.
>>48277844
It's really a mystery
On one hand, the pictured object is presented in a way that looks like an exhibit. The way it rests on the shoddy chair, combined with the strange choice of colours, makes me believe it was the "art piece"
On the other hand, the pictured object looks like a trash can, complete with bag.
Perhaps the truth is that both the pictured trash can AND the trash were art, and the cleaning lady threw away mistaken trash into a mistaken trash bin?
Perhaps the true art is the article for making us think this deeply about it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGfHnJ1KTA0
>>48277876
"art"
Modern stuff is post art.
>>48276995
I love how in this one the bull looks, just, super apologetic about the whole thing.
>>48277473
>that image
Wow, you can almost see the exact moment where his brain dies. That's pretty rare.
Okay, it's not really that rare. But a lot of people wish it was.
>>48276775
>>48276863
You're overthinking it. It's an ancient meme.
Like that Roman Graffiti.
>>48278047
>Like that Roman Graffiti.
Here ya go
>>48277473
Post-Postmodernism and SincerityNEVER EVER
>>48277707
Wrong video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMgxA_C0vfE
>>48277123
there is a fresco with a tree full of penises in Italy
>>48276942
Behold, the herald of 4chan.
>>48277473
That triggered me. Post-modernism would be the arrow pointing to the dot with text saying "this is an arrow pointing to a dot". Post-post modernism is a picture of all three together with the title "this is what people think about saying this is an arrow and that is a dot." Postmodernism is about parody, modernism is about interpretive representation.
>>48278361
>It's parodY!
That's the equivalent of saying
>I was merely pretending!
>>48278423
No, it's not, I have a useless degree on the subject. Look up the cloaca machine. That is post-modern art. They take a simulated digestive system and feed it all sorts of things to see what comes out the other end. Eventually, even the fanciest food winds up being shit.
Alternatively, Marcell Du Champ's "fountain" is pretty good. They're awesome artists objectively, they're just deconstructing the genre. The problem is that idiots don't understand what they're looking at and just assume random garbage is art. Then they try to make their own art without understanding what they parodying. I guess that's post-postmodernism in a nutshell.
>>48275121
I know the thread has kind of derailed, but I thought /tg/ might like to know a little about OP's pic.
It's an illustration of a scene from Arthurian legend, specifically from Chrétien de Troyes' romance "Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart". In it, Guinevere is abducted by the evil Meleagant and taken to his realm of Gore. The picture shows Lancelot entering Gore by crossing the Sword Bridge, which is (as you may be able to guess) a bridge that is also a giant sword, stretching across a large ravine. If memory serves there is another, less stupidly dangerous, way to enter Gore, but Lancelot chooses to take the Sword Bridge to, I guess, prove his courage or some shit.
>>48278501
If you don't think that he's going to think you just proved his point for him, then welcome to the internet I guess.
>>48277190
Knowledge and understanding of things like perspective weren't always around, and many of the pieces shown in this thread weren't even made by people who made a living out of painting anyway.
Stuff like >>48277208, >>48277123, >>48277106 and >>48277087 were doodles made by bored monks.
>>48277588
come on now
>>48278538
He will think that, until the wikipedia page for "fountain" shows its worth millions of dollars, as well as the history behind the price, and the new solid gold version parodying the original. Either way, at least I'm trying to educate him, it's his decision whether or not he learns anything.
>>48278516
Lancelot always comes off as a total cunt.
>>48277123
>Tinder.jpg
>>48278627
>It's just nouveau-riche "intellectuals" passing "art" around to justify their poor investments and fuel their smug egos
This is just paint by numbers shit. Which is my own hot take on "muh postmodernism" spergs but whatever.
Anyways, just shittin on some nerd, not you.
>>48277707
So modern art is just the internet in real life.
It's just a mirror into our own edginess.
>>48276775
I thought it was because the monks gardens kept getting eaten by snails so this was their way of saying "FUCK SNAILS"
>>48277856
This, really. If you're gonna go through the trouble of photographing buttholes and call it "art" you should at least go for the gnarliest, grossest, most unhealthy buttholes you can find. Fucking go all out, man.
>>48278672
Well yes, I agree with you. Martin Shrekli personifies this attitude. My favorite part about modernism is that idiots bought it thinking it was art because it was trendy, then justified their shitty purchases by fabricating elaborate narratives, which legitimizes the deconstruction of an established genre, while also undermining the point they were trying to make about art being an arbitrary 2-tiered system. Just proves that capitalist scum have the worst taste in everything and universally awful opinions, even if they like something good.
>>48278652
Pretty sure in Le Morte D'Arthur, Lancelot is pretty much just a human cyclone of violence
>>48278652
Lancelot is a Mary Sue bitch, Gawain and Bedivere are best knights.
>>48278819
Don Quixote is the best knight, what are you talking about?
>>48278888
Tilts at windmills, not even real giants, 3/10
>>48278931
Clearly you don't know much about adventures.
>>48276913
the_eclipse.jpg
>>48278931
>first town he goes to
>immediately pledges his undying devotion to a literal whore for no reason
>his family hates him for reading knight books then burns them all
>he doesn't give a shit, becomes a knight anyways and regularly gets his ass kicked by random scrubs
IDK, seems pretty based to me.
>>48276827
uzumaki.jpg
Are we done?
>>48278988
The only problems of Don Quixote were:
a) he was born two centuries too late;
b) he had a lofty lifestyle that did absolutely nothing to prepare him to knighthood.
I guess he was somewhat of an original knight-aboo. I mean, it fits - his only knowledge of knights comes from heavily romanticized books - a form of entertainment for rich NEETs of medieval, just like weaboos' knowledge of Japan comes from anime,
>>48276979
Bonacon or something like that. The poops red-hot too.
>>48279064
I have a sudden irresistible urge to make him my next Pathfinder character.
>>48279064
>Don Quixote, OG Knight-aboo
That's my new gamer tag. I thought /tg/ would like him because he personifies how we all live our lives, and Sancho saves the day all the time. He's like a proto-sperg.
This is fine.
>>48276593
He's chuck the cuckcanuck, if he puts out the fire, the fire wins.
>>48279105
Basically this.
He's just so relate-able and lovable that you can't help but root for him.
>>48276775
>>48276791
>>48276797
>>48276827
Well memed, dumb snailscriber!
>>48279105
The archetype isn't that original or new, to be fair.
For ancient examples, look up ancient Greece drama.
If you want a modern example, Jeeves and Wooster series of Wodehouse touches pretty much the same themes as Don Quixote, with a slight more tilt towards the comedy part.
>>48278128
>>48277500
>>48278045
>>48278361
SWERVE YE ALL KEKS UPON THE SUPERIOR ART STYLE.
MEMEDERNISM.
>>48277008
>Behold me! Henceforth, I am thine liege!
>>48277588
>Hitler
OK cards
>Butthole man
HE PUT BUTTHOLES.
ON EXPOSITION.
AND GETS PAID FOR.
This is when plebs should learn art is insulting everyone around you without them noticing.
>>48277020
underrated
>>48279217
Post-post modernism is the age of the meme.
>>48278819
No, the best knight is literally Galahad.
Which is kind of ironic, because he's the child of a terrible person and a not-quite-as-terrible person.
Lancelot would kick your ass and laugh at you, Galahad would put up a good fight and be a good sport, before kicking his father's ass if said father challenged him to combat.
His response to being called a Marty Stu would probably be to literally apologize and act less perfect so that people wouldn't feel so bad about not being him, which is simultaneously hilarious and infuriating.
>>48279253
Gondola>spurdo
>>48279217
finland please stop
>>48279303
Finland mentioned :DDDD
This is now finish art thread :DDD
>>48277286
>>48277303
>>48277357
>>48277374
You are now aware that the present neoclassical wave largely arose out of the posmodern scene and was put forward by postmodern artists.
>>48276945
Back in the day generals would warn their soldiers to beware of the French because if they ran out of ammo they were liable to rush in amidst a barrage of bullets for the chance at gutting someone with their bayonets. I'm not sure when the stereotype shifted from "crazy assholes" to "cowards" though.
>>48276923
You're probably american, so you don't know this, but the french used to ride giant snails into battle followed by a plague of bad smell and frogs.
>>48279371
The stereotype is pretty much only founded on WWII and the concept that a prissy Frenchman with a baguette couldn't possibly be any good in a fight.
It's like how burgers like me are all seen as fat bastards despite the nation itself having some of the strongest armed forces in the world (I fall into neither of those categories, being a skinny little fuck). There's a huge disconnect nowadays between the national stereotype and the military.
>>48279371
They lost a big war senpai, propaganda machine is very strong, specially britain's and america's. Also it's easy to asume they're coward since they're the smuggiest(all of them)/delicate (parisians mostly) dipshits ever.
That's it, like everyone that thinks spaniards are anything but vicious little demons. They didn't conquer half of the world only sleeping around.
>>48279371
French surender in WWII.
Worth noting that, while the government was limpdicked and folded like a shitty poker player, French resistance fighters (saboteurs esp.) were pretty damn instrumental to the war efforts and were generally pretty hardcore, so the stereotyping of an entire people is based on a single shitty political decision.
>>48277638
These portraits were PROBABLY (i.e, almost certainly) drawn post-mortem, so aside from being an aesthetic choice, the eyes might be that way because they have to depart from reality. They can use the cadaver as an easy model for everything else, but you probably don't want the guy to paint the eyes as closed or literally glassy and dead.
It's certainly interesting, though. It's the only part of the paintings that departs so noticeably from reality. Then again, based on the fact some of them (like this one) don't have that feature, I guess like anime there was a demand for crazy expressive eyes.For what it's worth, there is speculation that these paintings were part of some standardized workshop or something--some seem heavily derivative of others and of much lower quality, implying there was some original master whose work was later copied wholesale by some untalented apprentices.
>TFW monks in the middle ages were literally /r9k/ in the middle ages and instead of frog posting they were snail posting.
>>48278103
>TFW people will continue shitposting several thousand years from now with even more exquisite memes and shenanigans.
>>48279447
Spaniards are evil fanatics that torture and burn people for no reason. This is true confirmed fact and there is no propaganda involved at all. They even murdered dozens of millions of natives themselves.
>>48275999
>>48276111
>Hey Christ, wanna /ss/?
>>48276897
Going outside the limits of the image a little, but if the Queen births the son of a dragon, but no one knows, does that mean the dragon will control the kingdom in a generation?
>dragons can assume any shape they want
>dragons can breed with any species
>>48278591
>Let me tell you
>ABOUT THE SARACENS
>>48277190
I'm no art scholar, but I remember reading that at one point, out of some Spanish style, the Roman Catholics began championing disproportionate religious art because hyper-realistic painting was in full swing among the Protestant artists, and the Pope decided there needed to be artistic contrast between the two faiths.
Hence all the unnatural art that popped up, post-medieval, when it was clear the artists had the materials and knowledge required to get the proportions right.
>>48279811
I suppose that's assuming the half-dragon son doesn't succumb to his own draconic ambition and avarice, taking the kingdom for himself rather than accepting to serve as figurehead.
>>48279811
so this is how the lizardmen rule everything
>>48279889
This is true, but what if the dragon plans for this?
>mythology says the strong dragonblood and ambition will overpower the weak traits of man and the son will physically more dragon than man
>therefore the dragon must pick the strongest possible nobles he can to infiltrate, so they're raise the strongest son possible so the dragon will be overpowered but still lay dormant
>>48279954
That's not an image I have on my HDD. Thanks moot.
>>48277133
Wow, that's some hardcore railroading
>I gather wood and start a fire
>THERE'S A CLOUD AND IT RAINS DIRECTLY ON IT, REEEEEE, FOLLOW MY PERFECT STORY
0/10
>>48275121
He had no legs?
>>48280034
God is the shittiest QM
>Hey look at this garden I created for you, there's lots of details I want you to appreciate, you should explor--
>WHY DID YOU EAT THE APPLE
>FUCKING NEWFAGS
>GET OUT
>YHWH has added chapter 2
>YHWH has added chapter 3
>YHWH has added chapter 4
>YHWH has added chapter 5
>why is NO ONE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME?
>fuck it, I'm flooding the ENTIRE EARTH
>>48280308
You're missing a few
>hey, now that you're out of Eden you really should look around and all, like I was saying before
>oh, well now you're at least listening to me--
>WHY ARE YOU ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER
>FUCK
>I'M SPLITTING THE PARTY. CAIN, WE'RE DOING A SOLO SESSION FOR NOW
>...
>so you want to help me world-build a city? We can make lots of fun dice rolls for your children.
>>48280308
>YHWH is an autistic frogposter
and now the bible makes complete sense to me, holy fuck.
>>48277190
Drawing realistic human needs a lot of anatomy knowledge, understanding bones and muscles, and lots of naked people. Don't think it was avaliable during Dark Age, their skeletons had bones made of flesh.
>>48276775
Monks get bored too, brah.
>>48280521
SMT is full of "God is a jealous asshole" moments
>>48280713
>The parchment is hairy
>the ink is thin
>I am very cold
>I wish I was at home playing videogames
>>48280713
>My feet hurt
>>48280713
>my hand hurts
>I have to write next to Lothar, I hate Lothar
>this tunic isn't itchy enough
>I wish I was in the cloister whipping myself
>>48277407
>They're called the Dark Ages
t. wikipedia scholar
anyway, the so-called "dark ages" is an enlightenment Era revisionist meme
>>48277407
>They're called the Dark Ages for a reason
Because of a lack of known scriptures at the time this name was given?
Because renaissance/enlightenment folks looking down on that time whilst fapping to old greek statues?
Fuck your crappy hollywood-tier education.
They weren't called the Dark Ages because it was a dark and backwards time for a full millenium.
I bet you post that dumb "scientific progress" graph with that gap at the dark ages that you blame on religion.
>>48281043
Oh, have you seen the updated version of that monstrosity? It's quite exciting.
>>48275569
the one in the op almost makes sense, it's lancelot(i think) crossing the sword bridge, but yes it's silly as hell
>>48281107
Post it
I feel like being angry at things
>>48276841
>the bedbird
Honestly, the bird does look all that happy either.
>>48281169
>>48281236
Pffffhahaha!
>>48281236
Kek
Didn't expect that.
>>48281236
>>48281276
>>48281292
I'm not sure what everyone's freaking out about, science has been on the rise lately.
t. Secundus
>>48281236
No "hole left by the Jewish dark ages"?Oh, wait...
>>48277190
my arts teacher talked a lot about this,firstyou need to consider that early medieval painters weren't professionals, they were often artisans and were paid not much for their scribbles, so no point in working your ass off to get anatomic precision. you also need to consider these as expressions of something, they are not there to look good only, but to say something, which could be as simple as knights can kill snails or something abstract like "goddamn guys i swear i a not a paranoid everyhting will explode and we will be enslaved by bots". Then you need to consider that early medieval painters weren't professionals, they were often artisans and were paid not much for their scribbles, so no point in working your ass off to get anatomic precision. Now concepts can't only be expressed by figurative forms, actually what art's cycle tells us is that to express something it is actually better to get away from rappresentation.The prime example is always michelangelo actually started with renaissance's precise emulation, but felt he needed more freedom and started "ruining" his style. Each culture expresses in its own way,and you can't deny "ugly" stuff is actually a better method of expression. From this we get that medieval people had different tastes in what looks ok and what doesn't, so for them proportions weren't a priority and their paintings look silly to us. I think it was longbeards( or however those barbarians who invaded italy are called in english) that went even more silly and used to represent cubes as six squares, like if they unrolled them. moral of the story is that exact rappresentation limits the artist and it is normal people say fuck it in different ways. But probaly medieval commoners preferred realistic stuff too.
>>48281358
That would have been the flood.
>>48281372
forgot to point out i am not too knowleadgeable on the matter and somethings or everything could be wrong
>>48277374
If I had to guess, I'd say that it was bad, because the doodles in illuminated manuscripts were bad (made by monks not artists.) So The "higher educated" elite preferred the art that went with the words 95% of the population couldn't read.
>>48279853
That doesn't make sense, because most of the disproportionate art is from way before even the beginnings of the Reformation
>>48277190
I saw a painting at the national gallery of two young women holding prayer books, pissed the security off a bit because i had to look at it from a handspan away. The pale, peachy pink cheeks of the subject looked perfect from kissing distance, better than any hi-res photo, which is only for making huge advertising images without turning to a mess of dots anyway.
This painting was done 19th century, the techniques for painting that way have been lost. During the 60s radicals went around smashing up art schools because they didn't need no rules, then returned years later to learn basic fucking drawing technique.
So the middle ages was like that, ancient skills had been lost.
>>48278195
>Italy
of course!
>>48278516
>abducted by the evil Meleagant and taken to his realm of Gore
>realm of Gore
>entering Gore by crossing the Sword Bridge, which is (as you may be able to guess) a bridge that is also a giant sword, stretching across a large ravine.
Is Meleagant the world's oldest edgelord?
>>48278790
>Just proves that capitalist scum have the worst taste in everything and universally awful opinions,
Soon one will be President of the United States.
What a time to be alive.
>>48278627
>This piece of shit is worth 1 million dollars
>So it's actually good because I'm part of the art establishment
kek. That's the same as the toilet. You have shit taste and you're a pretentious fag. Check yourself.
>>48279271
Oh my god Galahad is moe.
>>48281568
what doo you think? that america ever had a non capitalistic president?
>>48279447
Can you actually say they lost the war? On the one hand, they surrendered, which should count as a defeat, but the war ended in the defeat of their opponent and then coming out okay until America decided to meme them into "cheese eating surrender monkeys."
>>48281589
>I didn't read the entire thread: the post
Wrong. It isn't good because it's expensive, it's expensive because it was a meaningful critique of capitalist culture. It's ironic that rich capitalists decided to buy that kind of art to represent themselves when it's critiquing their disposable way of life. It isn't the best price, but it's modernism 101 if you have no experience.
>>48281236
>transhuman
>posthuman
Disgusting.
>>48281610
George Washington never struck me as money grubbing.
>>48281646
>It isn't good because it's expensive, it's expensive because it was a meaningful critique of capitalist culture. It's ironic that rich capitalists decided to buy that kind of art to represent themselves when it's critiquing their disposable way of life. It isn't the best price, but it's modernism 101 if you have no experience.
I read the entire thread. Your opinion is just shit. You spent 4 years acquiring the equivalent of a degree in Medieval Basketweaving Studies. Congratulations on your encyclopedic knowledge of a fucking stupid subject. I bet you're a Marxist too (and thus equivalent to all the retards who spent 50 years writing on Marxism and probably considered suicide in 1989).
The context literally does not matter. It's a toilet.
>>48281700
It's a shame you're such a literal pleb. I don't just have a degree in cultural studies, I also have a useless degree in political science and a post-grad specialization in emergency management with an emphasis in business continuity. I'm not a Marxist, I'm a right-of-centre post structural meritocratic egalitarian. You shouldn't be proud to be ignorant, you should be ashamed that you refuse to learn when presented with meaningful information.
I bet you play blue in magic and roll either a mage or a rouge.
>>48281596
I have a huge soft spot for Actually That Good characters who somehow manage to cross the Gary Sue bridge unharmed. It's nice to occasionally have some optimism and positivity in media, you know?
>>48281760
>I bet you play blue in magic and roll either a mage or a rouge.
Woah man, I was with you up until then but there's no need to be hurtful.
Not all rogues and blue mages are that shitty.
>>48281760
I have a degree in political studies as well (aka Advanced Burgerflipping) and I'm finishing my graduate studies in history at the moment. I am perfectly willing to learn when the information is of any value whatsoever, but post-modernism is of no value (and the same goes for any sort of relativism). Your claim that I'm ignorant because I don't care about why some fucktard paid one million dollars for a toilet, or why some other fucktards applauded calling a toilet art, is pretty goddamn stupid. It's not meaningful information. It's not useful information. It's nothing. I could read up on Chrischan's most recent comics and it would be a better use of time.
I don't play Magic because I'm not autistic, and I've never played a mage or "rouge." Go be an elitist prick elsewhere, Captain Delusion.
>>48281800
You're right, some rogues aren't that bad, and some mages can be interesting, but those are also archetypal classes of "that guy". I'm sorry for my harsh words but gosh darn I just get flustered some times.
>>48281760
>right-of-centre post structural meritocratic egalitarian
Aka generic globalist neoliberal establishmentarian?
>>48279076
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnacon
>>48281877
>neoliberal
Nope, definitely not. Fuck those guys. I just want a productive work force to engage in post-mercantilism so that globalizing dicklords don't engage in retarded lassiez-faire trade policies without proper regulations.
>>48277014
>You tryin' shit boy?
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>>48281834
>this guy
Art history is just the practical application of semiotics. What kind of idiot gets a graduate degree in history after taking political science? You're basically a Fedora personified.
>>48281981
I double majored in Advanced Burgerflipping and Advanced Tarot Reading (aka history). Hence the graduate studies in the slightly more useful of the two. The rest of your post is stupid.
>>48282000
No, the point was, you've wasted 4 years of your life, and instead of taking a productive course, you continue to rewrite shitty papers and jerk off over citation. Seriously anon, history is objectively dumb, what are you even writing a thesis on?
>>48277008
>How many breads have thou eaten in ones life?
>>48281945
>retarded lassiez-faire trade policies without proper regulations
Fascist and socialist buzzwords in one pol-tastic combo! I sympathize anon, but you've got to admit that you've wrangled yourself onto the horns of a Hegelian dilemma. The meritocratic leadership of a democratically legitimate Iron Prefect, or the meritocratic regulation of an unelected bureaucratic class in his shadow.
>>48276979
That'sbullshit
>>48279533
People also tend to be fairly picky when it comes to backing up their points and kind of hope no one looks at history during an argument.
I mean, I'm not French- but post WW2 they're worthy of quite bit of respect as a military force and currently if they had to throw down on nearly anyone in Europe, they could quite convincing smoke the shit out of most of them. As former military myself, I also have a lot of admiration for how well they handled and schooled the shit out the Mali islamists.
>>48282100
I'm okay with the unmeritocratic shadow government because democracy is dumb, but people should value themselves relative to their capabilities. There is nothing wrong with diffusing tyranny by majority through careful checks and balances, but society is consent based, so it's important to legitimate your authority through compliance with an established social contract. As Machiavelli said, it's better to be loved than feared, and no one defends their country with more fervor than a democracy.
This thread needs more art
So, is there a reason why it took artists so damn long to actually draw people that looked normal?
>>48275466
He's bleeding, you can see cuts on his feet and knees.
The Best Thread On /tg/ Right Now, started by a one-line greentext? It'll never happen.
>>48282460
"You won't believe what I dreamt last night, Cornelius! There was an old guy in drag giving birth to a baby who looked like he was the Pope! He even had three spokes on his head!"
"Tell me about it, Johannes."
>>48282541
The truth is they still don't. But you just can't tell. You have to learn to understand an image just like you learn to understand written language or social situations or anything else. Visual communication slowly gets more sophisticated, and the audience learns along with it and grows too, and on and on. Modern art will just look just as strange to people in 500 years.
>>48276967
>the clouds/waves are in the shape of butts.
>you will never fuck your waifu on top of your servant
>>48278501
I have a degree too and you're just a hack who regurgitates opinions of authority rather than actually thinking about anything or having any stance on what art is or the intersection between art and philosophy.
The Fountain, in its specific circumstance, was a humorous prank, but it's not an amazing piece of art. "Challenging your preconceived notions of art" is not art. Anything founded upon deconstruction, taken to its logical conclusion, inevitably falls apart due to the lack of inherent foundation. Postmodernism took the critiques Modernism had for Pre-Modernism, and built off it with more critique rather than any sort of actual basis—as such, you end up with all acts whose impetus stems from postmodernism being nothing but ad hoc, truly meaningless hack nonsense.
Postmodernism has no basis in anything, and is so detached from both reality and abstraction that it's simply become a tool with which to create narrative around tribalistic and primitive opinions and gussy them up as contemporary. Defending postmodernism shows a deep lack of understanding on your part of any sort of historical, literary, artistic, or philosophical genealogy.
>>48282648
What about the orange stuff on his body?
>>48282135
The French got quadruple fucked hard. The lost the Franco-Prussian War, then barely held out in WW1, then lost WW2 (inb4 Africa), then lost in Southeast Asia. Poor frog eating fucks.
>>48277793
That one guy in the yellow.
>>48282244
I did not know the Bible contained hot necromancers
>>48282460
>Sameface has been around since medieval times
