How are you preparing for the prerelease?
Also, how aggressive is BG delirium going to be? It's seem like durdling around trying to get delirium is not what you want to be doing when you're aggressive.
>>48212283
>durdling around trying to get delirium
I expect you'll be able to consistently get it by turn 3-4 with a decently designed deck.
It probably won't be great in Draft, but it should definitely be workable in Sealed.
Im just deciding if pre ordering spell squeller ahead of pre release is a good idea, alongside all those other spirits.
On the one hand their just rares but on the other they might spike if u/w spirits is good
fuck
>>48212542
Maybe if they had an actual lord that pumped them they'd be good, but it looks like their just going to be another silly meme deck
>>48212542
Spell queller alone is the only card in the deck worth a damn- other rares like Eldrazi Displacer are already super-popular and played in multiple formats, and Spell Queller's preorder price is higher. Don't bother.
>>48212591
For a while we still have thunderclap and anafenza, but I think there are two ways to take the deck
more counter/enchantment heavy with spell queller shepherd combo, or bant and just outvalue your opponent with tamiya and flying for draw.
>>48212591
>Maybe if they had an actual lord that pumped
In all but the name.
Anyone think that TriskadekaphobiaCombo.dec will be playable? Or too much enchantment hate?
>>48213022
playable at fnm if you dont have many gw players. it'll he janky no matter what but if its fun its fun
>>48213022
I don't think anyone is going to run much enchantment hate outside sideboards while CoCo is as prevalent as it is. I'm thinking about shitbrewing Standard Mardu Enchantments for my kitchen table.
I love Thermo-Alchemist
>>48212722
I actually remember reading a Stoddard article I think where this actually was a spirit in playtesting to tie into SOI. I don't remember why they changed it though. I think it's too expensive even for standard, though, to be worth playing. They key will probably be in the very cheap flashers.
>>48213140
all GW decks run Dromoka's Command
>>48212722
The fact that you can cast either him or Queller really makes it for me.
>>48213302
nah the flash is huge. i love playing it in u/w flash where its niche competition is always watching and invocation of saint traft as clock accelerators. the fact that it isnt dead on its own is very important
>>48212283
I'm gonna play at my LGS because it's the last event being held there before I move at the end of the month, but the set itself looks like garbage with weak cards, dumb mechanics and lame flavor.
Im using the BG delirium stuff and Eldritch Evolution to help setup Gitrog and Splendid Reclamation. Should basically let me explode and win the game on turn 4-5.
>>48212591
Just use soul extractor on a Thunderclap Wyvern.
Anyone tried doing a test-prerelease on stuff like Xmage/Cockatrice yet?
Results?
>>48214742
Cards are not updated on Xmage yet.
I'm pretty excited for UW Flash Spirits.
This deck is played on the opponent's combat and endstep.
Sounds as annoying as Faries.
>>48214742
Eagerly awaiting the Xmage update. Should land in the next few days.
First thing I'll be testing is a UG Eldrazi thing with Emrakul, Ulamog and Kozilek.
>>48214950
>>48214983
>>48213802
>Playing current standard
I want RTR/Theros back so badly, true control hasn't been a thing since U/B control in FRF.
U/R Eldrazi is a glorified ramp deck, Esper Dragons, Abzan control and B/W control were glorified midrange decks.
Moon doesn't seem to have any good tools for control, so why even fucking bother.
>>48215152
EMN gives some pretty good hand disruption to black. U/B Eldrazi should be able to mess things up decently with the black Emerge one and Deep-Fried.
It's not incredibly overpowering, but it's definitely possible to work with.
Things will probably get a lot better anyway once Origins and DTK rotate out.
Never gone to a prerelease before. Is it best to do one mid block or should I wait until Not-India?
I kind of want to do it for EMN because I have a friend leaving soon and he won't be here for Not-India.
>>48215152
>theros block
>>48215203
Just look through both sets and get familiar with things and go to this one. It's usually always fun.
>>48215203
you should definitely go to it. It's a lot more fun than your usual FNMs, and there are a lot of people who show up that come completely unprepared.
>>48215152
>Anon my son
>yuo a man now
>yu must choose a deck and play gaems
>will you pick glorious flash flyers and win turn 5
>or will you pick Theros/Ravnica control?
>...
FNM Results: W-0 L-0 D-4
Why the fuck is Cryptbreaker the only 1 mana black zombie in the whole of standard. How am I supposed to complete my curve?
>>48215746
2 or 3 graf harvests and then load in some random one drop like mausoleum wanderer to fill space.
>>48215746
There is that new Enchantment, tho.
>>48215776
>>48215778
is it really worth it though? Zombies are for recursion, exiling them is counterproductive really. And it's dead in multiples.
>>48215811
just use it as a way to give tokens evasion, and turn any utility non zombies into zombies once they do like the wanderer.
>>48215811
Duress, then.
>>48215855
so would UR be the way to go?
>>48215993
I assume you mean UB. I think its worth it to splash Geralf and Gissa, since that lets you recur threats like cryptbreaker and relentless dead if the opponent hit you when you were tapped out.
Mausoleum wanderer is great, as it forces coco decks to coco turn 5 instead of turn 4, and can beat in for 2 or 3. I'd leave the blue splash at that though, I think.
>>48214742
Is there a name for this kind of thing?
>>48215152
>RTR/Theros
>not wanting the glory that was post-ban ZEN/SOM
It's okay if you're scared of plentiful playable removal and strong control. Lots of people are, including WotC. It's totally understandable.
>>48215203
Just go, boyo.
>>48212283
>preparing
>sealed
Well, it starts at 3, so I think I'll eat lunch and then go play some DDR at the arcade. Maybe go home and play some MonHun. Then I'll grab my 40 sleeves and go to the shop.
>>48218193
cooking/craft/baking fail
>>48218656
The buffalo is a much better shape for the cookie anyways. I can see one of the horse's legs or its tail falling off
>>48214742
I've been looking at the cards on Cockatrice, but they're full of mistakes, and they're missing information and pictures.
So guys, what do you think would be the best to include in my cheating for this prerelease? Planning on bringing up to 2 SoI rares, 1 SoI DFC and a handful of commons to support whatever archetype I might pull. From what I've seen in simulations BR madness vampires appears to have one of the best late games and largest card pool at common with strong rares supporting it but I can't help but imagine living the dream of getting GW humans assembled in sealed. What should I lean towards?
>>48215152
>Esper Dragons wasn't a control deck
It's literally counterspelling until you play your big dragony wincon, how is that not a generic control deck?
>>48215152
I know GB Aristocrats is a fucking sweet deck and that's all I needed to know when I borrowed it last Friday, going 3-1 despite having no clue about current standard.
So what were y'all's favorite cards from SOI? For me it's probably Cryptolith Rite. It's just so versatile to have creatures serve so many purposes.
>>48215152
The UB control back when Khans came out was a joke deck. It was literally praying you could 1 for 1 your opponent then play a bigger thing than him. Where's the incremental value you're generating? Control died when Sphinx's Revelation rotated. Wizards will never print another draw X cards spell.
>>48222614
Thalia's Liutenant , Nahiri the Harbringer, Tireless Tracker, Insolent Neonate, Strenght of Arms, Diregraf Colossus, Eerie Interlude, Rattlechains.
Brewing Izzet Devils for standard
It doesn't have a finisher so I might just build a Burn deck
Contemplating which of my friends I could get to go to my LGS and pick up my prerelease box because I can't make it that day
>>48221190
From my experience, green wolves + Investigate worked wonders in the Shadows. The problem is that the Eldritch Moon Wolves don't transform on their own which was their main selling point. They can still be good but they depend on you getting Waxing Moon and several copies at that.
If I were to point out a the most powerful colour in Eldritch Moon's limited i would give it to blue. It has a phenomenal selection of counterspells, disruption and soft removal that can stand against pretty much anything, which makes it a pretty safe option.
In my opinion, these are the most relevant cards that will define the different archetypes at Prerelease:
>Repel the Abominable (Humans tribal)
>Lone Rider (Lifegain, Eldrazi tribal)
>Nebelgast Herald (Spirits tribal)
>Unsubstantiate (Control)
>Contingency Plan (Delirium)
>Graf Harvest (Zombie tribal)
>Cementery Recruitment (Zombie tribal)
>Shreds of Sanity (Madness, Control)
>Stensia Banquet (Vampire tribal)
>Foul Emissary (Emerge)
>Crop Sigil (Delirium)
>>48224993
If you can get the Delirium on Extricator of Sin that is going to be a Bomb pull
Now I'm no genius, but it looks to me like G/W Humans is going to be the best thing to build at prerelease.
G/B Delirium just looks too spotty. U/B Zombies might be good also.
But I've never done sealed before so what the fuck do I know?
>>48224993
There's a 2-drop common Green spell that transforms target werewolf. If you get a good wolf, just go all in on Green and hope you get relevant SOI cards.
anyone going to gp montreal?
>>48225738
GW is usually a safe build in every prerelease because they have efficient creatures that doesn't need gimmicks to work. But as always, it depends on your pool.
>>48225859
Assume a perfectly spherical card pool.
Should I bring some soi cards to the prerelease or just show up with nothing? Never done a prerelease.
>>48225935
bring sleeves, you can only use cards you opened. The store will have lands
>>48225935
Prerelease events are usually either sealed or draft, so don't bring anything with you.
>>48225867
Well, there is a problem with that, since pool size at prerelease is only 6 packs, 4 of EMN and 2 of SOI. This kind of speculation was only important in prereleases like Ravnica, where you could choose a guild booster.
>>48225935
Bring paper, a pen, and some sleeves if possible.
>>48212694
>spell queller/shepard combo
And what combo is that? Exiling their spell then immediately letting them cast it again?
>>48226272
Cast Spell Queller to exile target spell. Immediately return Spell Queller to your hand with Spectral Shepherd. Spell Queller's Leave the battlefield effect will resolve before it's ETB effect, and let your opponent cast nothing. Then everything else will resolve, and the spell your opponent cast will be exiled permanently.
Plus, Spell Queller will be back in your hand and you'll be able to cast it again to counter another spell.
>>48226357
>2UUW repeatable Void Shatter that goes around "can't be countered" clause
It's okay
>>48213140
BW control has a lot of answers for that, and I still have some pic related in my sideboard
>>48218193
Demon bread.
There's going to be another return to Innistrad
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/147216029358/can-i-ask-why-ludevic-was-again-skipped-over-fr-a
>>48226505
Not him, but it is quite good and you can also cast only the queller if your opponent is going to cast a combat trick or fuck their spell up if it is something with additional costs like escalate or the Nahiri's wrath.
>>48226657
No it's not
Noob here. If you attack with two creatures, does this card trigger once or twice?
>>48227006
Everytime a creature you control attacks, it triggers, if you attack with 2 creatures, it wil trigger twice.
Going to update a U/R Prowess deck with new tech but I noticed I have four Reflector Mages just sitting around.
What would be a good and fun deck using the new stuff be? Doesn't have to be top tier.
>>48226272
tgisbadatmagic.jpg
3 Elder Deep-Fiend
2 Lashweed Lurker
4 Deathcap Cultivator
4 Sylvan Advocate
3 Bounding Krasis
2 Void Grafter
2 Loam Dryad
4 Oath of Nissa
4 Unsubstantiate
3 Void Shatter
3 Engulf the Shore
2 Imprisoned in the Moon
2 Sanctum of Ugin
4 Lumbering Falls
9 Forest
9 Island
I decided to try and build an Emerge tempo deck. Would Bant be better for shit like Reflector Mage and Tamiyo? Or would that stretch the mana too far?
Is it just me or does this set seem kinda dull? It feels like it will make no new decks and only support the current already T1 decks.
Just wanted to check - the enchanted creature can sac the enchantment and still have flying until end of turn, right?
>>48232190
Yes, it just loses the +2/+2
Where were you when Sorin and Innistrad as a whole became the most recent casualty of feminism?
>batshit crazy Nahiri does whatever she wants - summons Emrakul, dooms the plane AND gets away with it
>Liliana is apparently "the last hope"
>Olivia Voldaren cucks Sorin saying "hurr imma lord of Innistrad now xd you stay in this rock"
>not to mention Tamiyo and her super overpowered scrolls, too powerful to even consider using them
XMage has the new cards.
>>48232635
The whole feminism bait shtick is such a bore. It's been so overdone its just no fun anymore and I usually do like to bite for the ensuing argument's sake.
I suggest you find new material, because using the same tired old bait only makes you look like a moron.
Can I target a spirit on the stack?
If you aren't blown the fuck away from this card getting printed you don't know shit about magic.
>>48221190
You are a fucking cunt for cheating at a prerelease. You are an asshole who ruins the fun of this game. I don't even care that you will call me a fag and that you can do what you want. However, you're still a cunt with no honor.
>>48213140
I thiiiink you may be forgetting something. Literally 50% of the meta main boards 4 Dromoko's Command.
>>48233506
>vampires are the true bear of red
>goblin guide is a mistake and goblins will never get a bear
>>48233506
Oh wow, a red bear! What will they do next, print a white legendary 2/2 at one mana?
>>48234007
One of these days, we'll get a 2/3.
![92947_201607062331317337_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0TfXVaW.jpg "92947_201607062331317337_1[1].jpg")
This is going to consistently be cast for RR in constructed.
Get as many copies as you can
>>48234159
>prowless
I imagine it would be pretty hard to be seaworthy without a prow.
>>48234159
I would think so too but Thing in the Ice managed to not be good in constructed so what do I know.
>>48234385
TiTi doesn't instantly get you 3 cards and has to be on the field for it to do anything.
I just want to play a Harmless Offering burn deck and call it
Goldnight Catsigator
>>48227006
Twice. If it were worded "Whenever one or more creatures you control attacks..." then it would only be once. It's also worth noting that Campaign of Vengeance will only trigger from creatures being declared as attackers. Hero of Bladehold's soldier tokens, for example, won't trigger CoV.
>>48234658
It also only requires a casting of 3 things before it flips into massive tempo advantage as opposed to 6 things for Bedlam Reveler to be RR.
>>48234159
I'm looking forwards to UR burn
I mean I doubt it will be good, but I'm still looking forwards to it
>>48213353
>>48233631
I actually run 4 Dromoka's Command Mainboard in both Standard and Modern, and I completely forgot about that mode. Yeah, pretty sad that Starfield of Nyx will never be in Standard without DCommand. I'm still going to try to make something work in some format. It might end up just being a cute combo to throw into Selenia or Doran EDH.
>>48212542
that card isn't even that good and can be used against you later in the game
mausoleum wanderer is objectively better
>>48234159
Is it possible to make a Reveler of Ice/Thing in Chaos deck?
How many good burn/cantrip cards are there?
>>48234986
he doesn't know what he's talking about, just like you said it was hard enough to flip TITI, and he's convinced getting 6 instant or sorceries into the grave is going to be so cake
nah
>>48222614
That is my favorite too. As soon as Dromokas command is gone rite decks are gonna be big in standard.
>>48234986
It requires you to cast 4 things and is a sitting duck on the battlefield. Your opponent sees it coming from a mile away, so he'll either undercommit or kill it
>>48235255
It doesn't matter that it's a "sitting duck", it's a fucking 2 drop.
No one excited for this card? Is she useless outside of a Zombie deck?if so why the fuck is she pre-selling for 22 sheckles??
>>48222685
Are you talking about the deck that played Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time?
>>48235466
Mythic Rare and a Planeswalker card
>>48235466
People are speculating the fuck out after Jace, who practically no one was excited for with expectations of being a shitty card, ended up so amazing that he actually made a mill deck viable in standard.
>>48235466
Because she's a planeswalker that's not Tibalt levels of bad.
That gameday mat though.
>>48235508
People thought fucking nu-Jace was bad? Are you shitting me?
>>48235649
Loot at /tg/ archives, salvation, or youtube before Origins release. Jace was thought to the worst of the 5 flipwalkers.
>>48235466
I think people are buying it up so much because her 2nd ability works so well with delirium.
Her 1st ability is ok, best case scenario you remove a few 1 toughness creatures, and her last ability is powerfulbut if you can get the ability off chances are you've already secured your victory anyways.
Since theres no AAJ thread I'll ask here. If a creature has First Strike/Double Strike can you activate abilities between Combat Damage steps? For example if I attack with Insolent Neonate while I have Stensia Masquerade out, when Neonate gets blocked by creatures could I deal 1 damage to one creature then sac Neonate for his ability before the second Combat Damage step occurs?
>>48235649
Everyone thought baby Jace was bad. Not just /tg/.
>>48235733
Yes.
>>48235680
I guess I can't say this without it looking like hindsight bullshit butChandra andGideonwere clearly the worst, though I didn't think Nissa was going to be a standard card and I thought Liliana was good
>>48235733
>can I activate abilities after first strike damage, but before normal combat damage?
For the most part, yes.
(The creature being activated, or the target will need to still be alive after first strike damage has completely resolved)
>>48235466
She's deceptively powerful with the +1, can fit into any deck.
Her -2 and ult though need specific decks to work. I don't know of any top modern or standard decks she'd fit into. Overpriced imo, will settle for 15 dollars.
>>48235836
She would fit in Aristocrats if Flip Lili didn't do the job better.
>>48235466
>>48235836
She could be a sideboard in legacy. All the dangerous critters there have 1 toughness.
>>48235856
That's what gets me she seems like... flip lili and viel lili had a child that got overall less effective than the originals.
>>48235804
Well here's the thought that was shared among most people, in order of best to worst:
>Liliana: Good body, easy to flip, amazing ability to fetch creatures from grave
>Nissa: Reprint of a great elf card for standard, the flip is nice but mostly irrelevant as game is likely over by that point
>Chandra: She's ok, got plenty of cool ways to flip. Won't see any serious play
>Gideon: Oh, he kinda sucks and annoying to flip. But he's got alright body, a soldier, and has some limited protection.
>Jace: He's... ok? I guess a merfolk looter that can turn into a snapcaster.
>>48235466
Should have made her cost 4cmc, changed it to -2/-2.
>>48213140
What's CoCo?
>>48235939
Collected Company
I just got this artwork. I'm pretty slow on the uptake. ;_;
>>48236332
Little girl eldrazi getting her teddy bear?
>>48236332
>>48236531
Mythicspoiler sometimes does a good job with their thesaurus.
>>48233627
>honor
>in a luck based event
You're a teenager. There's actual money on the line and I'm not going to just waste $20 because the asshole next to me managed to luck into the top standard deck in sealed while I pull a bunch of utter shit like how all four of my BFZ prereleases went. If they wanted this format to not be utter luck-based shit they should have kept the sealed deck design from around Time Spiral which worked fine.
@48236721
you really want that (You) don't you?
>>48212392
In my experience draft decks are usually better and more on theme than sealed decks if you are good at drafting
>>48230912
You mean it will make previously tier 4-11 decks like zombies and spirits playable
>>48238147
Nice post friend.
Between Bloodbriar, Lunarch Mantle, Extricator of Sin, Desperate Sentry, It of the Horrid Swarm, Terrarion, Vessel of Ephemera, Investigate and a few other cards, GW sacrifice looks like a dark horse archetype
>>48235589
"Are you not entertained?"
>>48235804
>Chandra and Gideon are clearly the worst
Gideon sees play in Modern Zoo and Modern Humans. Chandra sees play Nowhere. Liliana and Nissa see only Standard play.
Jace> Gideon> Nissa> Liliana> Chandra
>48212283
>Plant Skeleton
Yeeeesss..
We need more skellys in MTG
>>48235896
This post gave me cancer.
>2 best filp walkers
>the worst.
>>48239307
Oh wait, never mind me. I'm dumb.
>>48212283
>>48239265
woops
>>48233332
Even if you could, hexproof does nothing in the stack. That's why Sphinx of the final word specifies "can't be countered".
>>48235255
You don't seems to understand how Red Ancestral Goyf Recall works.
You draw 3 cards for 2 mana. In red. That's all it needs to do.
The pumpable 3/4 is just kosher.
Been winning quite a bit on XMage with this decklist
4 Sylvan Advocate
4 Collected Company
3 Lumbering Falls
1 Westvale Abbey
4 Desperate Sentry
4 Foul Emissary
3 Forest
1 Port Town
2 Prairie Stream
4 Reflector Mage
1 Lashweed Lurker
3 Dromoka's Command
2 It of the Horrid Swarm
2 Island
4 Elder Deep-Fiend
3 Plains
1 Decimator of the Provinces
3 Elvish Visionary
4 Yavimaya Coast
3 Canopy Vista
4 Evolving Wilds
Basically Bant Company with Emerge Eldrazi. Thoughts?
>>48212722
What's that set symbol?
>>48242029
eternal masters.
>>48241311
You have like 19 hits for CoCo which is hilariously low, and many of your hits are not good.
>>48235198
The difference between bedlam and thing is thing NEEDS 4 spells and bedlam would LIKE 6. Bedlam for 2RR is equivalent to thing's requirement, but it doesn't already have to be out and then have spells, it nets you some cards in a color that really needs it, and it dying doesn't really make you feel that bad. Why everyone thinks you need 6 for it to be amazing is beyond me. 4 mana would be on curve for a prowess creature that also has that ability and you're almost guaranteed to have that in a dedicated burn deck.
>>48241311
>no matter reshaper
>>48238521
I can see that, though I'm wondering what's going to happen to the W/B sacrifice deck. It seems like it's focused more on lifegain now
>>48235190
I am happy to see this comment as I wanted to find out myself. As of now with what is spoilered from eldritch moon there are 4 good burn spells (I am going to post more detailed informations and maybe a temporary deck list) It will take some time though. But I am bored and can't fall asleep anyways so I'm gonna do this now. See you in an hour
>>48243803
Maybe because it's not CoCo you dumbshit but it uses Collected Company in a good way all the same by bringing out the Emerge enablers. CoCo only good target is only Reflector Mage anyway.
>>48235777
Trips of luck confirm. He is called jacesus though, but whatever.
>>48235909
I would have loved that cause it means she killes off Gideon token.Would make her worse though since her minus ability is kinda bad for a cmc4 Planeswalker, also she would fall into the same slot with Languish. And that would ruin the reason she is expected to be so high: turn 3 lili turn 4 lili plus if he has a toughness >4 creature and then languish.
>>48233506
Well, it made every other red card it the set besides Bedlam Reveler bad, so "making Red creatures good again" had better be worth it in the long run.
>>48244336
I would gladly pay 2RR for a pitching my hand, drawing three cards and getting a 3/4 prowess at the same time in ANY format.
Anything less than 4 CMC is just a damn good bonus.
>>48235037
I cannot wait for Dromoka's Command and CoCo to rotate out.
>>48233506
I don't know shit about Magic. Why is it so amazing?
>>48250110
It's literally the first constructed legal 1R 2/2 ever printed without a drawback of some kind.
Having done a bunch of Sims, I haven't been impressed, but I think I've figured it out.
Red is by far the best color, and I would have to have an incredibly shitty pool for red to not be one of my primary colors. When automatically including red in my sims, my decks have felt a lot better.
Here is how I see it. There are 10 cards in EMN that I would absolutely want to build around. The 5 star cards.
-Tamiyo
-Ulrich
-Bruna
-Gisela
-Docent of Perfection
-Emrakul
-Assembled Alphas
-Bedlam Reveler
-Mirrorwing Dragon
-Decimator of Provinces
Red has 3 of those, 4 if you count -Ulrich.
Cards I've rated 3 or lower don't really matter. Those are support cards. For cards rated 4, this is how I have them distributed by color, not counting multi-color.
White- 8
Blue- 6
Black- 12
Red- 12
Green- 7
What's worth noting in this distribution, are the amount of Commons in each color.
W- 3
U- 0
B- 1
R- 3
G- 1
According to my rankings, red is the best whether it's bombs, Commons, or overall quantity.
White has a strong top end and quality Commons, while black has better quantity. Blue and green seem a bit weaker to me.
I wish I had done this for SOI so I could add that to my findings. I'll be expecting to play red, but I will see how my EMN packs open, then see what support SOI might add from there.
TLDR- Play red unless you pull Tamiyo.
>>48250904
What have you been using to run these sims exactly?
>>48250973
Magicdrafting.com
I'm not actually playing the decks, but you can get a feel for what you might build.
Building mostly around rares, there was only about 1 in 10 sims that I liked, which is why I decided to rate every card for myself.
I really hope I don't get Harmless Offering or a similar useless rare. I'm hoping on getting some hard-hitting creatures and buffs. Borrowed Hostility seems like a good card to hit for 4 or 5 early on.
>>48251203
The absolute worst sim I did had something like 2 Harmless Offering, Lupine Prototype, 2 rare lands, Traverse the the Ulvenwald, and some other forgettable card. It was a fake simulation, and it still made me want to cry.
Am I the only one who thinks the new lore is utterly retarded?
>Innistrad has some weird stuff going on
>Nahiri is wrecking stuff everywhere
>Something occult is going on down at the drownyard
>Articles hinting at the return of another angel
>Even Avacyn is going insane, but tried fighting it
>It's the Eldrazi again!
>All the angels are now corrupt except one lol!
>Time to call the Gatewatch!
I mean really. The Eldrazi are one of the most brain dead creatures in magic, but now it's gotta be them as the bad guys because the Gatewatch actually needs something to do. They're simpler than the freaking Flood but they get played up to be like Old Gods from Warcraft.
And they could have gone with so much better, too.
>Nicol Bolas fucking around
>Marit Lage makes a reappearance
>New angel returns and tries instituing martial law, like Avacyn
>Nahiri is merging two Planes at the Drownyards to create a cataclysm
But nah, let's go with the boring tentacle monsters and nuke a portion of the memorable names from Innistrad.
>>48251979
>Am I the only one who thinks the new lore is utterly retarded?
You'd be by yourself if you thought it was good
>>48251047
Don't forget that blue and green have all but like two or three of the emerge Eldrazi. And almost every single one of those is a bomb that only a few red cards can deal with.
>>48252012
I mean SoI seemed good up until it turned out nothing new was happening.
Are they killing Emrakul in this block or the next one?
>>48252147
They imprisoned Emmy in the moon.
Which seems weird to me because she still has a fucking huge influence on the plane.
>>48252169
That seems even more stupid. Did Nahiri get axed or did she manage to get away? I don't know where to find real lore outside of looking through cards.
Wrath of Nahiri looks crazy though.
>>48252169
>>48252194
The plane is fucked regardless. No avacyn or angels means humanity is doomed to the vampires, emrakul or not. Nahiri won in the end, even if emrakul didn't kill everyone
>>48252147
>I mean SoI seemed good up until it turned out nothing new was happening.
>not knowing from the start that it was Emrakul
Are you literally retarded?
>>48252250
>no angels
Sigarda is still kicking, senpai
I think this card makes R/W Weapons Trainer actually winnable along with making Stoneforge Masterwork playable.
>>48252285
I meant bruna and Gisela. Sigarda can't take care of all of men and womym
>>48252380
Unless "no angels" means "mostly no angels," you're still wrong. And Avacyn was apparently enough before.
>>48252267
I had hopes. I knew it in the back of my head, but I had hopes.
>>48252418
Avacyn was stronger than the others by a longshot. There is no way Sigarda can handle all the humans by herself.
>>48252418
See >>48252450 all the other angels immediately followed her because she was significantly stronger. She convinced bruna and Gisela to kill their sister (the w/B aligned angel)
>>48252439
I guess I was in your situation too, but c'mon man, that image was a fake
>>48252031
I'm just not very high on the U/G emerge archetype. Besides the two bombs I listed, Drownyard Behemoth is the only one I like, not counting Abundant Maw and Distorted Mindbender in black.
Sure, you could pull the amazing U/G Emerge pool, but the same could be said for any archetype. On average, I think Red is superior. Blue and Green don't have any good Commons to support (I had Kessig Prowler as a common, mythicspoiler has it out of order). Red has Alchemists Greeting which can kill 90% of creatures, Brazen Wolves that is attacking as a 4/3 for 3, and Building Pack Outcast which is pretty insane for a common. Would you rather played Foul Emissary or Enlightened Maniac than those cards? Would you rather force yourself into U/G to play Lashweed Lurker, or play Smoldering Werewolf in red, plus whatever your strongest in among the other colors?
And all that is considering that any combination of red, black, and white are full of removal. Maybe red can't burn your Vexing Scuttler so easily, but it can burn whatever you plan on saccing, or white and black can murder or restrain.
I like the concept of emerge, it's just the overall weakness of the colors that's the problem. Chances are your going to have difficulty deciding what chaff you want to add to get to 40, rather than difficulty deciding what you need to cut.
When you sac your creature to It of The Horrid Storms, just to watch it removed, and all you're left with is 2 1/1s and a Fog Walker staring at a Conduit of Storms and an Insatiable Gorger...it's not going to feel too good.
>>48252692
I should also say emerge will probably be better in draft where you can build around it. I just don't see there being enough support for prerelease.
>>48236721
It is so depressing to think I might be getting beat by cheaters. Makes me wanna quit the game
>>48236721
So who are you to say you're allowed to bring better cards? A real player would be able to deal with a shitty pool, you're just being a self-righteous dick trying to justify cheating people out of a game.
>>48236721
go stomp on a d4
I honestly think ishkanah, grafwidow is playable
She alone kills Gisela, and with her spiderlings can kill sigarda, or avacyn. She can block the upcoming thopter hell profitably. With delirium it's 5 mana for 6/11 worth of creature over 4 bodies. That's really really strong. Delirium will be stronger with nu-emrakul and she works well alongside Tamiyo, providing plenty of targets for her +
>>48218193
The meme is called "Nailed it".
>tfw have to work night shift on the night of the prerelease and day shift on the day after
If anyone ever tells you to go into any medical field, don't.
>>48236721
You're at a prerelease for the wrong reason buddy. Here, why not add some of these to your packs?
>The FLGS charges extra for a prerelease because they include sleeves and the set's deck box in addition to the prelease packs.
>They do this because their playerbase is complete cancer and buys everywhere but there, though they still show up to play in the space.
>The only good box is Tamiyo, and the only other options are Liliana and Emrakul.
>No Thalia, like I was hoping for.
Would it hurt to have a box with somebody actually from Innistrad on it?
>>48254869
Jesus, you weren't lying. Why are the ultra pro selections getting worse and worse?
>>48254945
I was going to buy a kit for myself and my friend, but I think I'll just play with the kit and give it to him afterward. I'll save the money for a draft or whatever later.
>>48253734
If somebody tried to drop a Cheatyface on me at a prerelease I wouldn't even be mad about it desu
>>48253588
>got a sudden surgery a few days ago
>can't walk
>won't be able to walk till the next week
I feel you.
>>48251979
Come on, it was fucking obvious the second OGW dropped and Emrakul was missing.
Like they would skip a set and have eldrazi fucking around in standard for 3 years in a row
>>48252340
I'm trying, anon.
But it worked best before Eldritch Moon, Spirits are just too fast and Emerge Deep Fiend is ridiculously overpowered. Specially along shit like Ugin's Sanctuary and Reflector Mage. GW tokens are dead now.
>>48252340
I cant wait to throw it in my Narset deck
>>48213022
Not until painlands and Dromoka's Command rotate
>>48257866
There will still be Anguished Unmaking, and it's easy to sideboard against. Plus aggro will beat it down. I don't think it will be good.
>>48233506
But there are plenty of red 2/2 creatures for 2 cmc?
>>48253588
>work third shifts
>cant go to most events for magic, melee, anything
fuck
>>48250165
So it's just a solid red creature for a cheap price that doesn't fuck you over or require some sort of setup like Kird Ape to make it worthwhile?
>>48212392
Drafted BG Delirium in Shadows and got practically all the best stuff, and still lost. Playing Soul Swallower with delirium doesn't matter when they can just hose it before your next upkeep.
>>48253588
I'm a nurse and I think it's pretty cool.
>>48235589
"my board is this wiiiiiiiiiiiiide"
>>48255003
I would be mad if they tried to sneak Cheatyface into play from outside their hand. Otherwise I would be cool with that.
I'm fairly new to magic and I've never been to a prerelease, will I be able to have a friend buy me the prerelease set or is it typically one per customer?
>>48228477
For constructed there are so many dual-lands that come in untapped (conditionally) that three-color is totally viable, Anon. Whether or not RM and new Tamiyo are worth it in this shell, I dunno, but you could certainly do it.
>>48259353
But there are none with 1R and no down side
>>48215152
>RTR/Theros
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
>>48236694
>make a wish is 4cmc
what the fuck kind of berenstain reality shenanigans is this?
>>48236721
>he's so worried about ~$50 in prizes that he's willing to cheat children out of their fun card game
spot the poorfag everyone
>>48263904
I also proxy expensive cards like LotV and JtMS.
Sure I could spend $1000 a month and make $10 playing Magic but I'd rather spend $30 and make $40.
>>48263795
>tfw theros gave more to non-rotating formats than return to innistrad
>>48264268
They're both shit.
>5 hour drive to neighbor city with prerelease
>Bringing 3 friends
>Because one of them has to work on monday we have to leave sunday, missing 2HG
Any tips for the prerelease? I've heard black is particulary strong this set.
>>48234159
Reveler is the second rare in the UR intro deck.
So much for that $6.00 price point.Good - the only decent red card in the set shouldn't have been that expensive since it actually doesn't go into many decks.
>>48264904
White looks dank with Desperate Sentry, Spectral Reserves and 3cmc Pacifism that later exiles.
Blue got Ingenious Skaab, Fog Walker and Counter.
Black has Boon, Draw, and possibly that Meld Rat.
Red has Thermo Achemist and Otherworldy Outbrust and Bombardment
Green has Kessig Prowler, Grapple with Past, Woodcutter's Gift, prey upon, survivalists.
GW and GR should have a decent pool.
Who /goestoprereleasestogetheboxandthenleave/ here?
>>48263946
Magic isn't a job
>>48265497
Literally why?
Sealed Pre-Releases are probably one the most fun formats out there.
>>48265497
I do if my pull is utter crap or I wound up being busy or it's Sunday and I'm tired.
>>48265736
Because social anxiety. Also I play this game super casually so I don't know how to play it all that well.
>>48263028
I've only ever been to one prerelease (Gatecrash), but there were tons of people who bought ultipl sets.
>>48265837
most people at the prerelease are casual. You should just stick around to play senpai
>>48265837
thats fine for a prerelease, its the most casual you can get while still being an actual event
Don't forget to bring all your Eldrazi cards to the prerelease!
>>48267583
You know you can't use them, right? Outside the game during official matches means sideboard, and the sideboard in pre-releases are basically all the cards that you pulled from the packs that aren't in your deck.
>>48264942
>mfw I buy that Intro deck because it's 50% of the U/R deck I actually want to build
I mean, between these and Fiery Impulse you could have 8 different 1 mana instant speed answers to all the white weenie decks running around, and later Bombardments can even hit Avacyn and other bigger threats.
I'm personally entering pre-release to try and get a single card from the set and die happy.
I'll probably end up going with what I did in SOI Pre-release and playing Esper of some sort.
>>48268311
4 Insolent Neonate
4 Galvanic Bombardment
4 Fiery Impulse
4 Fiery Temper
4 Lightning Axe
4 Tormenting Voice
4 Avacyn's Judgment
4 Exquisite Firecraft
4 Harness the Storm
2 Pyromancer's Goggles
22 Mountain
Am I on the right track?
>>48268311
Those weenies aren't going to die to a Shock. Enjoy getting 2 for 0'd turn 2 by Dromoka's Command when you attempt to Shock an Inspector.
>>48268417
>shocking a 1cmc 1/2 while your opponent has WG open
c'mon m8 nobody's that stupid
>>48268403
You forgot the thermo alchemist to give that extra 1 damage for every spell.
>>48268403
Well at least 12 of those can't go to the face
>>48268417
>Opponent swings with Thraben Inspector turn 2 with W/G up
>Take 1
>They go to play a second threat
>Burn both then
