'Every Commander is my Commander' Edition
>RESOURCES
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>CARD SEARCHING
>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
http://www.magiccards.info
Any secret Ayli tech?
I have the revilark/karmic guide/ashnods altar/blood artist combo, I was wonder if there was anything else I should include.
Just preordered a playset of Thalias.
Did i do well?
Phyrexian Dreadnought is wonderful, gaining 12 life off 2 mana is fantastic.
>>48190875
Nope. We play commander son, you only needed 1.
>>48190875
This is a singleton format.
Lackluster survey time
What was the most flavorful deck you've played or played against?
What type of flavor do you go for? Tribal? Art? Storytelling?
>>48190875
Maybe for Legacy/Vintage
>>48190780
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-06-16-hFP-mimeoplasm/
Can I get some feedback for this deck?
>>48191491
how do you plan on actually getting your fatties into the graveyard besides buried alive? I would run more draw + discard like careful study and thirst for knowledge, entomb is good too. Plus you probably want more reanimation spells, reanimate, life//death, dance of the dead, necromancy, exhume, etc.
>>48191491
I love goo girls. I fap to that shit all the time. That fucking abomination of a alt deserves to be burned in a pit of hellfire. Mimeoplasm was awesome without waifu bullshit. He has a fucking t-rex arm! You have awful taste, and I am far too triggered to look at your deck.
>>48191663
Calm Down
>>48191653
I'm trying to cutback on buying cards right now. I'll add entomb and the like to my backlog list
HEY why is no one talking about this EDHrec update? The site is spicy as fuck now.
>>48191699
>hey guys, I need help building a deck, can you take a look?
>oh wait, I don't want to buy anything, so I'll just ignore you and add those cards to a list
Plebbery at it's finest.
>>48191491
>>48190896
>>48190889
I play more than one deck with w as it's colors though
I also hope she goes up in price so i can trade with the copies I don't need.
>>48191395
Tribal and/or story.
Not too much of a vorthos player though.
>>48191699
>ask for help
>not going to get anything recommended
This hobby may not be for you
>>48191715
I said I'll buy them you dense faggot. I'm just cutting back on buying cards for the moment. Is reading comprehension this hard you?
>>48191750
Methinks this is not your native board. Perhaps you should go back there. /tg/ is a nice place full of nice people. You seem like a edgy defensive fag with awful taste, I don't know if you'll fit in.
>>48191773
>Get called out being stupid because you lack reading comprehension
>We're nice people
>leave this board
Goddamn if this post isn't full of contradictions. Are you upset because you have nobody to play commander with?
>>48191663
If you want to dump mad cards, include traumatize in your list. It throws all your eggs in one basket and can fuck you over hard, but damn if it doesn't get creatures into your graveyard.
>>48191812
>I'm trying to cutback on buying cards right now. I'll add entombed and the like to my backlog list
There isn't much not to comprehend. You said you're cutting back on buying cards, and going to slap the ones that kind anon suggested for you on a list with a half-sentance dismissive answer. And now you're doing whatever you think you're doing now. It's just embarassing.
I haven't played EDH since just before DTK was released.
Have any of the new sets given Nekusar any new toys to wheel and deal, or any good tech cards for Grixis?
I should probably remake my deck, to be fair, but I'm just looking at what's new that would work with the deck.
>>48191882
Wow I'm so sorry. Did it hurt your feelings for me to seemingly disregard your recommendations? Grow a fucking backbone or better yet stop pretending to be retarded. We both know neither of us is being serious
Which of the Budget commanders should I look into making? I'm looking for a cheep deck that can still hold its own against other decks, so I'm fine going into powerful strategies out the gate.
Talrand, Sky Summoner (Counter magic and board suppression)
Geth, Lord of the Vault (Reanimator)
Wrexial, the Risen Deep (Dimir funstuff)
Zada, Hedron Grinder (Draw and Damage)
Rakdos, Lord of Riots (Damage into Dragons and Demons)
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade (Swamp themed)
Teferi, Temporal Archmage (Blue goodstuffs)
All of these are made under $200 but which of these would be too crazy for just casual play or which would be the most interesting for casual play?
>>48191916
You're so mad you're sarcastically apologizing. I'm just calling you inconsiderate and new.
>>48191978
Whatever makes you feel good, neckbeard roastie.
>>48191663
Since we are mimeoplasm posting, here is my list:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-08-15-mimeo-edh/
I have it tuned for a more competitive meta where the decks I see most often are daretti stax, maelstrom wanderer, karador, and U/B control. The idea of the deck is to win as early as possible with buried alive, hermit druid, or jin gitaxias. My next pickups for the deck are mana crypt and force of will, so besides those, I am constantly looking to improve this list and would appreciate any input.
>>48191773
>edgy defensive fag with awful taste
>won't fit in with all the other edgy defensive fags with awful taste on /tg/
>>48192065
I don't understand why you asked for advice on your deck if you weren't planning on buying new cards in the first place. Why even post?
>>48191491
Id add torrent elemental, birthing pod, jarads orders, and if annoying from the new set, the asylum land. Also some hand removal
What are good hatebears in general for anafenza? I'll have to work on meta stuff as I play more with the deck.
>>48192065
>>48192327
You're both faggots but the faggot asking for advice is a mad faggot, and therefore the biggest faggot. Now that we have the official verdict, can we put this issue to rest?
>>48192496
Summer is the worst time of the year
>>48192345
sorry bud, torrent elemental is trash. There are much better things to reanimate
>>48192367
Deathrite Shaman isn't really a hatebear but somehow still manages to be the best hatebear. Other than that, I've found creatures that destroy artifacts/enchantments to be immensely useful in every situation (Reclamation Sage, Qasali Pridemage, etc.) And then there's Containment Priest that always seems to get mad value. And Mother of Runes is pretty good at protecting your stuff AND getting through because Anafenza quickly gets outclassed on the ground.
The Leonin Arbiter type guys are good but I haven't been impressed, someone's going to wrath the board eventually and all the tutors people have been sitting on will fly out at the same time.
>>48192513
No it's not, /edhg/ is awful year round. And there's no indication this thread will be any worse than average. We haven't even mentioned Sheldon, Sol Ring or Mana Crypt yet.
>>48192542
>trash
>taps defending players creatures ON attack
>can come back from being exiled by mimeo
Its prefect for mimeo, the Fuck are you smoking?
>>48192543
>>48192367
Expanding on this, the issue with Anafenza Hatebears in multiplayer commander is that your lock pieces WILL get caught in wraths. Many of them. So it's my experience that your best hatebears aren't really bears, they're things like Stony Silence or Rest in Peace which you'll want to tutor out pretty much all the time. The creatures are used to handle more immediate issues (Phyrexian Revoker for instance can give you a temporary answer to many things without having to use removal), but I've found myself having to run a lot of creatures that aren't hatebears but that can dish out big damage or get mad value, like Scute Mob, Abzan Falconer, Sun Titan, etc. And also obvious ones like Eternal Witness and Den Protector, and you don't need to point out the stupidity of running those in a deck that wants to frequently tutor out Rest in Peace, Anafenza needs to make a lot of compromises in multiplayer.
My mimeoplasm, for reference. Why have your deck full of fairs when you can use value and use their own creatures against them?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/its-all-about-the-little-things-in-life/
>>48192596
but why not just get skithiryx + 6 power creature and kill someone? what is so great about tapping creatures? You can cast misthollow griffin from exile, but you don't see everyone jamming that into mimeoplasm
>>48192367
Long-time D&T player here. You kind of have to accept the fact that the hatebears aren't there to lock out the game: they're there to slow the game down while you set up powerful recursion engines and wincons.
>>48192644
Because skittles is too expensive / not available in lgs and online store? Just a cheaper alternative, I think
>>48192693
>>48192610
Thanks guys I'll have to think up more wincons for the deck, I got TnN and some other just good green and black cards from decks ive taken apart. I'll find a think up something more for win cons.
>>48192767
One of my favorite new tricks in 8.5 is Burnished Hart+Emeria Shepherd. It's pretty good at land ramping while simultaneously maintaining board presence.
>>48192767
Good wincons in Anafenza are any of the Saffi Eriksdotter combos. Most of the cards involved are cards you might consider in the deck either way so there isn't much opportunity cost (if any) in throwing a combo in there. You've got excellent tutors and recursion in Abzan to set that up.
What the fuck am I doing wrong
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/alesha-in-progress-2/
Does Nekusar's ability let's him deal damage as poison counters if I give him infect?
>>48192955
Yes, since he's inflicting damage
>>48192921
too little ramp, no card draw, a bunch of useless artifacts, very little interaction, no tutors
You are trying to do a bunch of different things and they all look lackluster. You should focus on one theme so that you can tune it to actually do something
>>48192955
yes, that's how he wins games
>>48190819
suture priest to prevent other people from being a colossal faggot like yourself, also infinite life
>>48190819
you need edgewalker if you don't have it already
>>48192955
It makes him a legitimate threat, annihilate and lifegain are also pretty funny too.
>>48190780
r8 my decklist /edh/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-06-16-BVv-omnath-edh/
Best commander for Jund good stuff? No combo/sacrifice crap, just cool fatties and a value engine
>>48192496
This is the saddest excuse of samefagging I have ever seen.
>>48192984
I've won lots of games without it so far
>>48192970
Wasn't sure anymore if it had to be combat damage or not. I usually don't use infect as a win con.
>>48193047
Yep, already got Whip of Erebos and Venser's Journal in my list of cards to buy for him.
>>48193123
I'm guessing you're one of the aforementioned faggots if you think that.
>>48193137
I'm sure, if you want to win fast though you give him infect.
>>48193107
Prossh without a doubt. He does pretty much everything you want in these colors and removing him just makes his dick harder. He's a huge value engine, a powerful combo piece and an evasive finisher all rolled into one bullshit package. Doesn't matter if you want to make a combo, infect or sacrifice jund deck, you go with Prossh (assuming you like sucking dicks, which you should if you post here).
>>48193149
>someone calls both posts faggots but especially puts emphasis on one of the posts that the other was bashing
Yeah naw its samefagging.
>>48192999
Got that. Thanks anon.
>>48193023
Also have one of those guys. Some kind local player gifted me a giant box of uncommons and it was in there.
>>48191882
Yeah, nah, you're the one being a prick lad.
>>48192217
That is pure sex. Did you make it? Can I buy one from you? You have excellent taste.
>>48193149
I think it's hilarious. There have been at least 3 different people replying to the same chain of posts, and that one guy thinking everyone on the internet is the same person. Oh /tg/, good times, good times.
>>48192974
Fuck OK
I'm assuming some of those useless artifacts are my shit equipment
What could I add besides Phyrena for card draw?
>>48193450
>3 different repliers
>at least one of them kept replying to the original faggot
>someone chimes in calling both faggots but especially the original faggot
Samefagging accusations may not be that far of, at first I thought I went to the modern thread cause everyone is acting like children
>>48193155
Not only faster.
I can win by turn 4 or 5 with a good hand, what I'm looking for with infect cards is consistency and an optional wincon because I noticed if someone plays Aura Shards I need to either remove it or him from the game and I don't have too much enchantment removal.
I also die too quickly but I already got cards for lifegain in mind.
Post cards that you like, but no one else seems to.
Pic related, it's surprisingly useful because it's an etb effect.
>>48191663
I like my Mimeoplasm alterIts Gooreat
>>48193637
Sacing 3 myr for blightsteel has ever been so fun.
>tfw successfully mana tithed an enter the infinite last night
>>48193669
You're a cool guy anon.
>>48193669
10/10
goowain approves of this and needs more
>>48193637
This seems way better than a lot of equipment people are willing to run.
It is no Sword of X and Y, but still.
>>48193380
Are you being real? Yeah, I painted that. I could easily Commission one for you if you're intersted! Go to my tumblr, at tannersmodifiedmagiccardsblog.tumblr.com to see my other work. I'll do it for twenty bucks.
Message me there, and we can go over details
Can I ask why Painter's Servant is banned in Commander?
>>48193949
Iona.
>>48193949
I had assumed it was Teysa, but that seems dumb now. Maybe the usual Grindstone thing?
Painter Grindstone is a completely colorless combo that requires only 6 mana and can be split up.
>>48193978
Oh, I see.
I thought it had to do with players not being able to play cards if Painter Servant chooses a color that isn't in their commander's color identity.
>>48193903
>>48193961
Yup I'm being real. Two problems, I only have canadian dollerydoos, and I don't have a paypal account. If there was an alternate way I could acquire one, I'd happily pay $20 for it, but it might be more trouble than it's worth.
That being said, I will be in new york city next week, I don't know if that has anything to do with anything, but it's some information.
>>48194071
I'll tell you what, get in touch with me over tumblr, or you can add me on Skype or Facebook w/e. Mimeo is like 7 bucks, right?
Maybe I'll just get another, paint it for you, and ship it out no charge.
And if I mess up, I'll just keep it and ship the pictured one to you :)
Also, I'm going to alter this legendary right now, anyone want me to post the end result or updates?
>>48193949
It's banned because the rules committee fears that every deck would run Painter's Servant + Iona / Grindstone if it wasn't, the former being too unfun and the latter too oppressive (and colorless). Yes, the rules committee is a bit dumb.
>>48194236
I mean, there's legitimately no reason not to run a two card combo that is entirely colorless and is on incredibly cheap cards in every deck.
They could ban Grindstone, I guess. But Painter's does have other abusive junk associated with it.
>>48194279
There are tons of reasons. Namely that the two cards don't synergize with the rest of your deck. What the fuck is a Grindstone worth as a draw when you don't have the Painter's Servant? What the fuck is either card doing for you after you wasted a tutor assembling the combo only to have one of the pieces removed in response?
Only awful players would even think to throw Painter's Servant / Grindstone in all their decks. It would still only go in combo decks that have more synergies with either/both card.
>>48194348
Two card combos are fragile, but that's true of any. Most combos fold to instant speed removal, but that's only a problem if a lot of resources were invested.
>>48194384
Which is not the point of the post you're responding to. The point is that Painter's Servant and Grindstone, in most decks, are bad cards. They're only good when put together, and even then, they're rarely going to win you the game in multiplayer. You're sacrificing two deckslots for that, when you could be running good cards instead.
The combo would be used in some decks but not all of them as some idiots (see: the RC) seem to think, most properly built decks would have no desire at all to throw this combo in.
>>48194416
"Most properly built decks", huh? So, what decks are these? Zur? Scion Hermit Druid?
I'll be completely frank here, I play garbage decks. But I've seen competitive lists and decks and I genuinely think they can afford two deckslots to such a cheap, colorless two-card combo.
People underestimate the value of just good stuff. Synergy is fun and all and is a big part of the spirit of the format, but I have a hard time believing that it is a necessary component of highly tuned lists.
But hey, I'm an idiot apparently, so what do I know.
>>48194535
Garbage decks shouldn't want this combo either. Are you really going to dilute something like Aurelia even further by throwing in two cards that do next to nothing outside of their exclusive relationship? Deck slots aren't free.
>>48193637
Oh I love this guy.
>opponent has a meticulously established field full of artifacts, enchantments, and creatures
>drop this sultry bastard
>then give everything -2/-2 in any number of ways
>>48194802
Ixidron a best. Never played him in EDH, only in casual, but I assume it would be pretty hilarious to completely unfuck the boardstate. I like the plain cleanliness of vanilla 2/2s everywhere, it's so soothing.
>>48194802
I one time locked a Thalia player entirely out of the game by Ixidronning her while the other players countered all of his boardwipes to protect their own stuff. That guy never played that deck again after that.
>>48194881
>Thalia
Kaalia*
>>48194856
Secret pro edh strategy incoming:
>opponent has their commander on the feild
>drop ixidron
>slap an aura onto their commander preventing them from doing anything with it
>lap up their salty tears while they have to waste both mana and removal on their own commander in order to get him back
My judge friend fucked my Maelstrom hard that way.
>>48194881
I would have been pretty salty about that, but Kaalia is an aggro magnet, he had to have been expecting that at some point. Same reason I don't play Xenagos anymore.
>>48194802
>>48194164
Finished!
>>48195096
I like the cut of your jib.
Do you actually run massacre wurm? I find him almost impossible to cast in a non-monoblack deck.
>>48195130
That's pretty neat, alter-anon. Do you do things with foils too? I have a whole stack of relatively spiffy things that could be fun. Urabask is one of the first to come to mind.
>>48195133
Yeah, I play him in jund and it's actually fairly rare that casting him is hard. I'm playing all the duals, shocks, bouncelands, on color fetches, Graven Cairns, Urborg, and six rainbow lands though, so color screw usually isn't an issue for me. Gotta cast them mana intensive spells.
>>48195197
>that feel when I got into magic 3 years ago and will never have a fully-stocked set of lands unless I start worshiping that guy who bought the wu-tang album/aids medication
Honestly, it's suffering. At least I have a metric ton of zedikar full art lands.
>>48194925
Any self respecting commander deck runs sac outlets for this and many other reasons.
>>48195158
Look here for my portfolio (Tumblr link)
>>48194164
I can paint over foils, but unfortunately nothing more. I'm still practicing!
I'm willing to try anything, I can "extend" borders like the hunding alter by painting them a single color, or I can crudely paint over cards like pic related.
If you want me to paint anything, feel free to get in contact!
Is there anything more awkward than realizing one of your friends had been playing with 2 copies of a couple of cards in his deck, just to improve the chances of him stomping every game?
It was extremely uncomfortable. It was pretty obvious what he was doing and he couldnt play it off well. He was always "that guy" but this was on another level. What do we do, stop playing with him?
>>48195367
Call him a faggot to his face.
Seriously, tell him that you know he's stacking, demand proof that he's not, and give him a simple ultimatum either way: shape up or ship out. Then, if he continues to abuse it, kick him out coldly and as robotically as possible. He'll know what he did.
That shit pisses me off more than anything else. This game is literally pay-to-win, and they resort to that kind of bullshit just to stroke their own egos? Bullshit. Pure bullshit.
>>48195367
Either call him out face-to-face or be a dick about it, and netdeck an amazing mill deck. Have someone play abyssal persecutor or whatever to keep the game going, then when everyone has zero cards, durdle and go through his graveyard one card at a time to watch him sweat.
I'm way over thinking things, but I think it'd be funny.
>>48195367
I wouldn't be too upset at him anon. His self-worth must be low if he has to win a casual card amongst his friends at all costs. At least cheating in a competitive environment gets you prizes. Reminds me of a guy in our playgroup who gets a turn 3 Sorin literally every game. No one calls him out on it because it's just kinda sad and it isn't even as good a play as he thinks it is.
>>48191491
Your alt is garbage
>>48195130
You just slapped black paint on it, look at the mana symbols, it's sloppy as hell. Can't tell if you're trolling or if you seriously think this looks good.
>>48195158
How is it neat? He just put black randomly around the borders and art? Literally anyone could do this.
>>48193876
I think this one they just printed is better.
>>48195855
>>48195873
I'm pretty confident we're being trolled.
>>48195855
It is sloppy, I like it though.
>>48195873
Nobody said it was difficult to do, I've never seen it done, however.
>>48195925
Well I put about an hour of "work" into it, planning on using it at the head of a control deck based around hunding clobberin people to death.
I chose him because he kind of looks like me, bald with a beard and all.
Thanks for the compliments guys!
>>48193876
>>48195898
The problem with these is that equipment decks are usually Voltron decks, and it's hard to justify running equipment that doesn't give you more killing power though either power boosts, granting doublestrike or something like Inquisitor's Flail. These make attacking easier/more reliable, but you aren't actually killing your opponent any faster. Even something like Sword of the Animist offers a power boost while performing its primary role (ramp). If I ran these and drew them, I'd probably be wishing they were any other equipment in the deck. It would be different if they at least offered protection to the equipped creature via hexproof or indestructible, but they don't do any of that. Still, there are may worse equipments in the game already I suppose.
Have any of you had a commander you wanted to build based on art alone? Did you build it, and if so, how does it run?
>>48196130
Yup, I tried to build Drana, Liberator of Malikar.
It was incredibly generic and I took it apart to make a completely different mono-black deck.
>>48196110
I agree. I wouldnt run either, I just posted the cloak because I think the vigilance is better than the first strike.
>>48196282
Yeah. First strike is a bomb mechanic in limited, but it's pretty weak outside of it compared to all the other evergreen mechanics aside from Defender.
>>48191663
Eventually, MtG will go to Muraganda. And when they do, I hope they make Mimeoplasm into a Planeswalker. The first Ooze Planeswalker.
>>48196366
>muraganda
What does this mean?
>>48196421
That's the home plane of the Mimeoplasm.
>Little is known about the bizarre entity that crawls the world of Muraganda. The fang druids call it the Mimeoplasm, as it absorbs the traits of anything it engulfs. The saurid warriors of the south seek out the Mimeoplasm wherever it roams, believing it to be the key to a mysterious afterlife, hoping to see in it traces of their fallen loved ones. The elves of the tropics believe it to be part of nature's cycle, a way to channel death back into life. The scarwitches hiss when it approaches, seeing it as the ultimate enemy of the world. Whether it's a natural process or a malevolent force, the Mimeoplasm never fails to command respect.
Any way of tutoring artifacts in GW other than Enlightened Tutor?
>>48196610
There are roughly a dozen ways to tutor Equipment in white, but not any artifact. You won't get anything like that in Green.
Enjoy your Ring of Three Wishes and Planar Portal though.
>>48196678
>>48196610
Actually scratch that. Green has ancient stirrings, but good luck with that shit.
Do i build sidisi or do i build Gisa and geralf,
which is more fun? i kinda like tokens but gisa and geralf are pretty cool
>>48196130
I was going to for Brisela, when we first saw the art, but then they spoiled her, and hoo boy.
>mono white
>requires TWO mediocre legendaries, and only one can be the commander
I was hoping for some bizarre WUR abomination.
>>48196610
Oh, and White now has Thalia's Lancers, provided you're tutoring a Legendary artifact.
>>48196678
>>48196694
>>48196812
Thanks. Just trying to tutor up my combo pieces.
So what do you actually do in an Alesha deck?
It mostly seems like trying to get into Persist Combo shenanigans or throwing Master of Cruelties at people.
>>48196900
Hatebears, general reanimation, and stax. Mass discard, yourself included.
>>48196900
>Alesha into Karmic Guide into Revilark into whatever sac outlet
There are lots of interesting things that can happen.
Eldritch Moon has been a very kind set to me and my decks. Like holy shit.
Mind's Delirium (Walker Teferi goodstuff + jank)
Tree of Perdition (Mikaeus)
Nahiri's Wrath (Daretti)
Geier Reach Sanitarium (Daretti)
Sigarda's Fucking Blessing! (8.5 Tails Equipment Voltron)
Goddamn nigga.
Why is Wizards shafting enemy colors AGAIN for the new cycle of lands? Painlands are decent but they don't stand up to the other cycles
Neither battlelands nor shadowlands have enemy colored equivalents
Are they that afraid that something besides Bant, selesnya, or mono W will work in the meta?
>>48197096
>Splendid Reclamation
As someone who built a Gitrog deck the moment he was spoiled I don't even need anything else from this set to be happy.
>>48197206
They don't usually promote enemy colored decks in Standard, so they don't need to print them as often.
Think about when they printed the enemy Checks in Innistrad. It was preparation for Ravnica rather than anything to do with Innistrad itself.
>>48196758
go for sidisi
i used to play alot of grimgrin zombie tribal, got bored playing it and i upgraded it to sidisi, only adding the zombie lords and the sidisi staples.
and boy is it fun for everyone. 1/3rd of your wins will be from Dread return into laboratory maniac and winning from flashbacking the deep analysis
you usually have 10 to 5 zombies on the board at all times,
you always have something to spend your mana on because there is going to be a huge graveyard that has tons of flashback/recursion
you will be milling your entire deck with one card such as mirror-mad phantasm or hermit druid
they just printed gitrog so you have insane syngery with that guy too, drawing cards left and right
even if you accidentally mill an artifact or an enchantment, you can always return it with glissa, buried ruin, academy ruins, eternal witness, greenwarden of murasa, nyx weaver. and you can return those things from the graveyard with genesis, sheoldred, gisa&geralf (soon), phyrexian delver, phyrexian reclamation, dread return, most of the things mentioned above.
sidisi has so much fucking synergy, your turns wont take too long usually and if they do, its something that everyone can appreciate. and she is super fun too. people laugh usually when they see 80 cards go to my graveyard in a single turn. people applaud when i win with lab-maniac because its not a degenerate infinite combo.
few things that are bad about her is that you cant afford putting much non-creature cards in there. most of your stuff is going to the graveyard and you need 37-40 creatures to get your sidisi trigger off most of the time.
>>48196464
Is it pronounced Mime o plasm or Mi me o plasm?
>>48197496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDs9ZvQpFI
One would expect it's the same.
>All these fucking Mimeo memers
And this is why I play Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet AND run Leyline of the Void. Fuck graveyardso and everything in them.
However, as satisfied I am with my deck, I feel like I could make a few improvements to it. A kind anon have any suggestions for consideration? Here's the decklist:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-time-to-die-is-now/
>>48193705
That and lapse of certainty are pretty rad, especially with sunforger. Nobody expects a counterspell from the mono white or boros player.
So what is the general feeling on scrylands in edh?
>>48198266
I like playing no more than two. They can make an iffy starting hand a lot better, but like all taplands they become exponentially worse in multiples.
>>48198266
All my friends play them. I cant stand lands that come in tapped without a huge upside, so I just dont.
>>48198266
Depends on the deck. I like them in top heavy decks or in decks that have a hard time getting extra draws.
>>48198266
I think scrying is great. It helps to plan your next turn before it even comes up. It's not as good as a fetchland obviously, but certainly better than the guild gates.
>>48191915
Still hoping people can give me some idea of new cards for Nekusar.
Why don't I see more bouncelands in EDH?
>ensures that you get a land next turn too
>basically +1 card, makes many mulliganed hands OK
>the only tempo drawback is playing a tapped land, no more tempo lost than a guildgate or scryland, and pretty often you don't need the untapped land anyways the turn you play it
>insane with exploration, burgeoning, or similar cards
>can be used for dank utility such as recurring a bojuka bog/mosswort bridge/scryland or even bouncing and replaying a nykthos or cradle if you've got an exploration or oracle out
The main excuse I hear is that they're weak to land destruction, but the only common targeted land destruction is strip mine or wasteland, and if someone DOES end up blowing it up, that's just one less strip mine to go after your nykthos or gaea's cradle or windbrisk heights or whatever.
>>48197096
You're actually gonna play Mind's dilation in Teferi...? I know it's the set's big goofy Commander enchantment but eh. They did make some neat stuff for mine though, mostly the boring but very practical Unsubstantiate and the more fun-but-probably-not-gonna-pan-out Curious Homunculus//Voracious Reader and Imprisoned in the Moon off the top of my head. Nahiri's Wrath I'm also eyeing for Daretti, it's really powerful in that deck.
Campaign of Blood is not very good but I'd probably consider it in Karlov, but I'm probably gonna switch to Ayli anyway since I believe she's more competitive and she doesn't want that kind of effect. Thought about Terrarion and Bedlam Reveler for Daretti too but probably not.
>>48199373
The MAIN main excuse is mostly that if money isnt an object than the manafixing and utility land quality is high enough that you shouldn't need to even play stuff like the karoos. But they're fine if that's all you can afford. The amount of time you'll actually lose because of the tempo loss of having it blown up is probably pretty low realistically. The main ladn destruction you need to be worrying about or mass destruction effects though which are more likely to hit it than targeted strip mines and such. But again at that point you were fucked anyway probably
>>48199373
They normally come in tapped is my issue, I need fast mana.
>>48199483
I play it in conjunction with all the expensive duals and it's still great, often even better than duals. Burgeoning followed up with a bounceland is one of my favorite possible plays.
>>48199534
Most high end decks don/t play stuff like Burgeoning and sometimes not even stuff like Exploration. That's fine if you do, just saying that isn't the majority of highly tuned decks which have an emphasis on speed over everything else.
>>48199483
>You're actually gonna play Mind's dilation in Teferi...? I know it's the set's big goofy Commander enchantment but eh
My Teferi deck is just a tad too powerful for my meta, which is funny considering it is far from optimized. I run a healthy mix of blue goodstuff and janky, but interesting cards to water the deck down a bit. Mind's Dilation slots in nicely.
>>48199534
>>48199580
Also remember these decks tend towards very, very, very low land counts even with the new mulligan rules, which means only the best of the best get in
>>48199346
Have you thought about Curious Homunculus/Voracious Reader? It should flip very easily in Nekusar, comes down early, and the mana cost reduction seems like it should be effective in a combo deck like Nekusar
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/saffis-soldiers/
Can I get some feedback on this?
Theme is human tribal, I'm trying to avoid using non-humans as much as possible (though I'm getting close to caving and putting sun titan in)pre emptive: there are 31 lands but it runs 9 ramp spells and the curve is low, I rarely have mana issues when I play it.
Oh, I forgot Fortune's Favor. I wish it drew five since having a facedown set seems like a pretty big strike against it and it ruisn the symmetry with the original but I think it might still be ok, but blue has a lot of good stuff to be playing what's going to be an effective instant speed 4 draw 2.
So I finally went and did itthe madman.
How does it look? I really like it, though I'm still trying to figure out how I can "glue" the two parts snuggly into a perfect fit sleeve, in which they are right now, so that they are about as solid as a whole card and won't end up moving around indide the sleeve, possibly making it obvious which card he is (my group still uses tucking).
>>48200099
Ultrapro makes oversized sleeves for commander, unless you actually wanted to ruin your card
>>48200099
Hey... that's really cool. I need to do that. I really don't give a fuck about the giant cards so.
>>48200472
>implying you can shuffle oversized cards into your deck
>implying a 10 cent oversized card is money wasted
>>48196130
Not art alone, per se, but I have a Sheoldred edh(she's my favorite) and I am going to build a phyrexian-only flavor deck with her on tapped out to see how it goes. Should suck pretty bad.
>>48200826
Just set aside a sleeved Plains or something to shuffle into the deck if Ezuri gets tucked.
Tell me /edhg/ have you had the pleasure to experience 2HG with 2 nekusar?
>>48201323
I don't know what 2HG is, but I just pulled off the most simple yet effect combo:
>summon Nekusar into Lightning Greaves
>Feast of the Fallen is on the field
>attach Glistening Oil to Necky
>the game dragged on 4 turns as my opponent was trying desperately to top deck some response
>dies
simple yet effective.
>>48201363
>I don't know what 2HG is
2 headed giant
>Lightning Greaves on Nekusar into Glistening Oil
First off, how did you attach oil to a shrouded nekusar. Second, why not grafted exoskeleton?
>>48201403
Oh yeah I've played 2hg before, what makes nekusar so great with 2hg though? he deals double damage?
Should have said that I had attached the oil before slapping the boots on.
>why not grafted skeleton
because I did not know. I do now, and will be making the proper adjustments.
What should I cut in order to include stitcher geralf? the vorthos in me won't let me leave him out.
Also any other recommendations?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/09-07-16-z-day/
>>48201449
>what makes nekusar so great with 2hg though? he deals double damage?
2 players on the same team each using nekusar. Whenever their opponent's draw(2 each) its 4 overall dmg. When both nekusar are out, its 6 dmg. Combine with cards like forced fruition, embermaw hellion, incendiary command, and toil/trouble, etc. You can have an unnecessary amount of butthurt and its glorious.
>>48201530
How does your deck win?
>>48201539
LMAO 2 Nekusar
>>48201530
Gisa and Geralf looked powerful to me but I don't know if there's any way to abuse their ability in their colors and with only zombies like Karador can.
>>48201581
Karador is a fat bitch ass nigga
>>48201552
Setup by recurring Sidisi and basically tutor for whatever you want every turn, then it either combos off:
Sedraxis Alchemist + Rooftop Storm,
Cloudstone Curio + Rooftop Storm = infinite storm -> tendrils of agony
Cloudstone Curio + Rooftop Storm + Gray Merchant of Asphodel = infinite lifedrain
Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar = infinite storm/gravestorm -> Bitter Ordeal. Diregraf Captain is Infinite lifeloss. Also if Rooftop Storm is out you can get infinitely big Grimgrim or Carrion Feeder if you use their sac effect insteal of phyrexian altar
Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar + Grave Titan = infinite zombies and mana
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Glen Elendra Archmage = counter everything
Deadeye Navigator + Gray Merchant of Asphodel = not infinite but massive damage nonetheless
Or it just goes super wide with hundreds of zombie tokens.
>>48201530
Assuming you're not on a budget, the obvious additions are death baron and the other zombie lords, hell's caretaker is a fantastic combo card, and pic related is a given.
>>48201676
Whoops
>>48201671
oh also any instance of storm -> Brain Freeze
>>48201363
False
>>48202053
nice post bro the guy already said he should have rephrased how he attached the oil.
>>48201449
>>48201323
>Nekursar
>pleasure
>ever
>>48201671
Holy shit I have a glen elandra I'm not using and that's a great way to abuse her thanks for reminding me.
>>48202096
What's wrong? Can't handle a sign in blood not on your terms?
>>48202196
What's wrong is every Nekursar faggot thinks they're super unique and clever, but the truth is every single deck is exactly the same. They make everyone draw a bunch of cards and then die because they gave everyone else a bunch of cards.
>>48202196
Not that anon but the second I start.getting ""free"" resources from anybody, for anything, is when I start to go out my way to kill them. Same goes for.giving ""free"" resources to anyone else or the whole group. I'll stand alone, thank you very much.
>>48202335
Have you never seen a Nekusar deck that makes people discard cards too? Or uses infect? Maybe you're just upset that you don't have one.
>>48196900
>Razia's Purification
>Entomb Sire of Insanity > Karmic Guide is a discount Jin-Gitaxias
So my friend is building a Hanna Deck.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/439622#paper
Any tips?
The Sideboard are the cards he needs to still trade for, minus lands.
>>48191975
Play Geth
And make sure to run Disciple of the Vault and Lotus Petal so you can be a dick and win the game instantly.
>>48202418
I think you need to reread Geth's ability.
>>48202335
>What's wrong is every Nekursar faggot thinks they're super unique and clever, but the truth is every single deck is exactly the same
I use blood tyrant and oona as wincons. The card draw is more for myself. I despise jevela as she is very conditional and thrax is ridiculously slow to work up. Other grixis commanders don't interest me. But I won't deny that I will use nekusar's way of dealing dmg for fun.
>>48191975
just make the Mikaeus infinite combo deck, the basic version is like $15 and it'll shit on literally every other deck you listed.
>>48193107
Kresh is a cool guy who gets really big really fast.
>>48202447
...Oh shit, I'm retarded. I'm gonna go cry now I actually thought I had something good there for a second.
>>48202385
>jin-gitaxias in a mardu COMMANDER deck
>>48202460
Mikaeus is cool because he's still a 5/5 with evasion even if they stop the combo.
>>48202497
5/5 with evasion and an anthem and human removal AND fucking undying on EVERYTHING
He's insane. And you can set it up so that the deck has so many combo pieces they won't be able to stop it forever.
>>48202484
Dude, c'mon.
>>48202565
What?
>>48202583
Please reread >>48202385
>>48202605
Well that's a fucking shame, guess I can't read
>>48202384
Yes I have. Infect isn't the super secret tech you think it is. Nekursars are the first to die in my meta every time because they can do a lot of damage when left alone and are easy to kill.
>>48202458
If Blood Tyrant is consistently winning you games enough that you can call it a wincon, then I have no words for you because your meta is turbo casual. Being casual is fine, but you're talking about a 7 mana French vanilla while simultaneously saying that Thrax is too slow.
>>48202874
>because it gets targeted in my meta so often, it is weak in every meta
nice
>>48202893
Yes. I have never seen Nekursar do anything besides get hated off the table across 3 different metas.
>>48202920
>1st post was just my meta
>2nd post is now 3 different metas
You aren't helping yourself, my man.
>>48202964
>le epic meme face
>le awesome green text
Ok champ
>>48202874
Why can't you just accept nekusar is an alright commander? Did someone wheel of fortune you with him out or something? Holy shit
best mono color commanders?
>>48203090
Braids. So good she's banned as a commander.
>>48203090
Thassa is one
>>48203008
Because he's the most bland cookie cutter commander and the people who play him are insufferable cunts?
If you enjoy him, then keep playing him. Just stop pretending that anything you're doing with him is unique or interesting.
>>48203111
>if you enjoy playing X, then keep playing X. Just stop pretending that anything you're doing with X is unique or interesting
What you said can literally be said about any other commander if anyone is so inclined to be as butthurt as you are about Nekusar.
>>48203111
I really don't get you man, you must think narset is a fair commander with this kind of thought process
>>48203168
You should stop using reaction images all the time, it upsets the more autistic ones
>>48203090
I love Skithiryx(holy shit, I spelled that right). One of my playgroups absolutely hates Infect, but they're also very casual, so despite being the most hated player on the board, I'd still manage to kill one or two of them in a 6 player game. By the time I'm dead, the others have all managed to build up their resources so when I'm gone none of them are sure who is in the strongest position anymore, because they've been allowing each others threats to go unanswered so they could deal with me. It caused so many Cold War esque political games that the deck got nicknamed Nazi Germany.
>>48203090
Sheoldred FTW
I will always have a mono black with her.
Just protect her and fill your deck with ETB
>>48202351
Haha this guy was playing elves and had a bunch of "everyone draws two" and "everyone plays two lands" etc effects out. Everyone was kissing his ass, attacking me, I pulled out Sorin and swung at him for 10 flying after a few rounds of that nonsense. Other 2 guys immediately went for my throat. I shut one down but the other got through. Fuck all that "feel good" shit.
>>48202086
doesn't matter
>>48203090
According to EDHRec, the 5 most used commanders in order for each color are:
>Kemba, Kha Regent
>Nahiri, the Lithomancer
>Avacyn, Angel of Hope
>Darien, King of Kjeldor
>Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
>Talrand, Sky-Summoner
>Azami, Lady of Scrolls
>Thassa, God of the Sea
>Memnarch
>Braids, Conjurer Adept
>Ghoulcaller Gisa
>Erebos, God of the Dead
>Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
>Shelodred, Whispering One
>Marrow-Gnawer
>Krenko, Mob Boss
>Daretti, Scrap Savant
>Purphoros, God of the Forge
>Feldon of the Third Path
>Zada, Hedron Grinder
>Omnath, Locus of Mana
>Ezuri, Renegade Leader
>Titania, Protector of Argoth
>Azusa, Lost but Seeking
>Tisan, the Wanderer Bard
>>48203450
Cold war esque games are literally my favorite type of game. They're hilarious. Semi related, the other day I staved off attackers for a fuckton of turns just by playing and not cracking a pernicious deed and just saying "as long as no one gives me a reason to crack it, it can stick around."
>>48203695
I've done that by announcing the Cyclonic Rift in my hand. Nobody wants to lose their entire board I guess.
>>48203726
I love how rift just existing makes merchant scroll really strong.
>>48191882
Kill yourself, cancer.
>>48191975
If you buy the teferi and grixis precon, and a silumgar you can make one of the most fun blue black decks ive played on the cheap.
>>48197206
Painlands are like the third best dual lands in the format. Why would you care about trash like tangolands and the soi ones?
>>48203971
Having another set of duals like the NuZen lands across all 10 combos would be really fucking nice for people who can't afford to mortgage their house for ABU duals. You can't fetch for a Painland.
>>48204058
Play 2 colour or just don't play blue. ABU duals for Mardu or Naya are not backbreakingly expensive if you're already stumping up for fetches.
>>48203971
The BfZ lands are great in 2-color decks if nothing else.
>>48204218
I only have fetches that I got for cheap during Tarkir. A KtK Delta is less than $20.
Meanwhile, a revised Plateau is $65+, Savannah $85+, Scrubland is $75+, and Badlands is $80+.
BFZ lands are all sub $3, but we only have Allied.
How exactly are fetches remotely similar in price to ABU duals?
>>48201710
I love this cardto deathand everything similar. I've been thinking of making my competitive combo Sedris into a zombies&wizards, just for the sheer amount of cool zombies and wizards there is.
I thought EDH would be right up my alley and bought two preconditions - Mirror Mastery and Devour For Power back in the day. Gave one to a friend. We played one or two games where I destroyed him with Riku because I copied spells multiple times which was of course not how this ability works (I didn't know that). He never wanted to play again lol.
Then I went to a Club and played multiplayer commander. Boy that was a three hours shit show. Really tough decks and I basically couldn't do anything. One was especially bad, it had memory jar and some endless artifact combo. Basically after that night I myself lost interest in EDH. Too much going on, very convoluted, not my type of game.
I think 1v1 EDH is fun though. Too bad I have nobody irl to play with me.
>>48205304
1v1 EDH is pretty shit once you reach a certain level of knowledge of the format.
It looks to me like you ran into a shitty combo/control meta. Commander is really shitty and easy to break if nobody is trying to have fun. Try another group.
>>48199637
>not optimized
>too powerful for your meta
You're so fucking lucky.
>>48191975
Rakdos is the most fun commander in casual metas, IMO.
>>48204597
Scalding Tarn is $100. But yeah, if you only have KTK fetches they may seem pricey.
>>48205551
Also in Britbong land I can get any non-blue dual, other than Bayou, for £25 if it's it's clearly scuffed or dinged. Most KTK fetches are already back up to £15 or so.
Whats the best commander for vampire tribal /tg/?
>>48205884
I did alright with the new Olivia. She's cheap, gives haste, makes them bigger, and makes non vampires into vampires.
>>48205917
sounds good, might build her after she rotates out. I was tempted to try anowon or old drana for a more control variant
>>48205951
She's only like $5 right now if price is a concern. If you go mono black, I would suggest OG Drana for the same of versatility. She flies, has build in removal, and makes herself bigger in the process while costing the same as Anowon.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/daxos-enchantment-lord/
Opinions on this, please? I feel like I should have more enchantments and some more lands, but I don't really know what to swap.
I just didn't want to buy another since I'm already building vamps for standard
>>48206131
>>48206180
Fug meant to reply to
>go to FNM for draft
>not enough people for draft because everyone is playing standard
>know nothing about standard and never played a constructed tournament before, but ask around if someone wants to lend a spare deck
>chill stranger lends me BG aristocrats, gives some sideboarding tips
>as I play the deck speaks to me on an instinctual level, feel the right plays coming to me without thinking
>end up going 3-1 and have multiple opponents complimenting me and how well I pilot the deck
>haven't fallen in love with a deck like that in ages
>would build it myself if rotation wasn't so annoying
So what's the best commander to emulate BG sacrifice in EDH? In terms of having a lot of cheap value creatures, tapping them for mana with crypto rites, having sacrifice payoffs and blood artists, and sac outlets that can get scary like Nantuko bro? I'm thinking Mazirek or Savra, but Tasigur is also a legend I've always wanted to build. Is there good stuff in blue to go along with a strategy like that?
>>48205884
OG Olivia is always a good card.
>>48206193
Damia is the perfect foodstuff commander.
>>48206193
Meren does very well in that kind of deck. Token generators like Avenger of Zendikar, Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos, and sac outlets like Ashnod's Altar and Attrition are great. Dawn of the Dead and Sheoldred are also excellent.
>>48206193
>>48206228
*goodstuff
>>48206228
She is, but I'd rather play sassy Tassy than her. Also a friend of mine already has a Savra deck and I'm hipster like that. But it's not Sultai that interests me as much as it's Tasigur himself. I'm just looking for blue cards to fit in with sacrifice shenanigans.
>>48206248
Also Fleshbag Marauder et al
>>48198266
Some of the better tap lands to be sure. I run mostly dual-colored decks, so I try to run one in each of them. Don't use them in my 3-color decks though.
>>48206193
Go with Mazirek or Sek'kuar.
>>48206180
>>48206189
Why not borrow the card from the standard deck? You won't be playing them at the same time, right?
>>48197213
This, but I will say gitrog got a dumpster worth of fairly decent cards out of em. My frog is a happy frog.
>>48196900
I turned it into an equipment and auras voltron, its easier to reanimate the little ones if Alesha's raw beef is cause for concern.
>Playing Saffi
>fighting uphill battle
>basically in top deck mode as the Arch Enemy
>One guy is even slowly stripping my lands
>Still have 7 mana
>Saffi and Suture Priest on Table
>Draw Karmic Guide
>Oh boy here we go
>Guide hits Woodland Bellower
>Bellower gets Witness
>Witness gets Chord of Calling
>Chord for 3 into Mirror Entity
>Sac Saffi for Guide
>High Market Witness
>Guide hits Angel of Glory's Rise
>Witness, Fiend Hunter, and Saffi return
>Hunter on Guide, sac Saffi to Angel
>Mirror Entity for 0
>Everything on my side Dies
>Angel and Guide return
>Angel hits Saffi, Hunter, Mirror, and Witness
>Guide hits Wood Elves
>Hunter on Guide
>Witness Chord with Hunter on stack
>Chord out Soul of the Harvest
>repeat
>draw until I hit Blasting Station
>wew
>mfw
>>48206840
High Market Guide*
Angel hits Hunter and Saffi*
>EDH night
>store is closing up
>we're flipping through the dollar bin to find Rosheen Meanderer for a friend
>guy needs us gone so he can lock up
>we still haven't found Rosheen
>suddenly stumble upon Stangg
>not just Stangg, but five Stanggs
>make a pact with my friends
>we're all going to build Stangg
>friend 1 is building Voltron Stangg with pump spells
>friend 2 is building Primal Surge Stangg
>I'm building suicide Stangg with token doublers and Stalking Vengeance / Warstorm Surge combos
>fourth guy jumped in and is building Stangg, too
EDH is an art form. We all have one of the shittiest legends around, and somehow we're all going to have wildly different decks.
>>48207123
You can't double his tokens, he makes legendary tokens.
>>48207177
You can indeed double his tokens, they just happen to die when you do.
And that's the plan.
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