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Teach me about fantasy armor, /tg/
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How do you like it when the catgirl paladin takes off her full plate armor and dresses up in a poofy gown, because she has to attend a fancy ball?
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My rule of thumb: even if there's magic in the world, and that chainmail bikini is enchanted, would wearing a simple gambeson protect you more if magic would ever fail? If the answer is yes, no chainmail bikinis for you.

I mostly let it slide for sorcerers or whatnot, as they can be arrogant and so assured in their own invulnerability that they would want to wear some sexy clothes for the sake of showing off.
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>>48174812
Whatever I think looks the best is the standard. Same reason I don't let players pick half orcs or other ugly races, and the same reason I give out bonus XP/Feats for playing cute gis: it's my show to run and if you got a problem with it you're welcome to start up your own game.
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>>48174812
I believe I have a copy pasta saved somewhere that pertains to this conversation.
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>>48174836
What if her full plate armour is the gown? Checkmate, atheists.
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>>48174865
So you're saying fighters can't be arrogant and self-assured, or completely trusting in the magic of their companions?

Don't get me wrong, I think bikini armor is stupid outside of settings where it can be enchanted to deflect swords, but in them, it's basically just a stylistic choice.
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>>48174941
That's not cute though.
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>>48174836
Needs full armour to begin with and isn't embarrassed to be in a formal dress. Can transition from Knightly to Formal easily, since they're not that different.

Though I believe there are more folks who like when they're embarrassed or become a complete waifu when they go to a ball.
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>>48174942
Well, most fighter trained hard before becoming high-level adventurers, so they know how easy it is to die from a single arrow.

But yeah, I agree, nothing is stopping people from wearing skimpy outfits if they think that magic will protect them. I mean, real history knows many examples of overconfidence that led to defeat.
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>>48174962
>isn't embarrassed to be in a formal dress
>ISN'T

You're doing it all wrong.
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I prefer cuirasses and 19th century uniform to look neat on my tomboyish knights.
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>>48174812
Google finds nothing. Source please?
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>>48174985
I have that issue.
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>>48175010
What is it?
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>>48175000

japanease milf wonderwoman

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=107275
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>>48174985
What's so embarrassing about wearing a ball gown?
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>>48175034
Everything.
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>>48175034
>its girly
>its for demsels in distress who can't take care of themselves
>its too puffy
>it makes my ass look big
>it's not like i dressed up for you, b-baka!

etc.
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>>48175016
Vulnerability issues centered around fancy or long dresses as opposed to pants, shorts, or short skirts. I'd be more comfortable naked in public than wearing a ball gown in the privacy of my own room, which I about the only place I'd ever wear one.

My girlfriend thinks it's totally cute. I hate it.
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>>48175034
How about you wear one then huh, punk? Try not being embarrassed, I'll be here waiting.
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>>48175047
>>48175049
And the petticoats or hoopskirts.
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>>48174959
>not wearing beautiful dress-like armor that is versatile and fitting for all occasions, be it a gruesome dungeon crawl or an elegant ball
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>>48175064
No feelings of vulnerability there.
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>>48174812
Fantasy armor can be as silly as it as the people who make it want to be. All you have to do is say a wizard enchanted it to act like full plate and BAM you got bikini armor = to full plate.
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>>48175075
>all those people who killed themselves just to not exist in DM's magical realm
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>>48175075
>All you have to do is say a wizard enchanted it to act like full plate and BAM you got bikini armor = to full plate.
Or you can just be a grown-up and say that you like the way chainmail bikinis look without scrambling for justification.
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>>48175047
You missed one.
>it's breezy down there
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>>48175101
sorry i put any logic into this. i wasnt stating my reason just a way it could make since. you fucking cunts.
i actually prefer full plate. the more plate the better if you ask me.
but no lets make it only about fetishes and magical realms. we cant teach people past the our own ignorance.
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>>48174836
I like it very much.
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>>48174959
I want dat shield
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>>48175034
My last character didn't like wearing dresses because they made her feel like a 'liar'. She felt like she was a warrior first, above anything else, before even being a Nightling (the artificially created formerly-slave race she was part of), or a woman, she was a student of battle. Wearing a dress, or anything else that could impede her movements, was lying to herself and those around her. She somewhat moved past that as she traveled the world and saw the different parts of it and different cultures, but she still preferred to wear clothes she could easily fight in.
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is this op posting /a/ or a thinly vailed request for chainmail bikini fapfest?
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>>48174812
>Teach me about fantasy armor, /tg/

I'm going to choose to answer this question seriously, which is probably a mistake. Put simply, the man makes the legend. The power within has a lot more to do with what the gear looks like or what it's made of. Being a Hero just isn't the same as being a normal person. A normal guy gets stabbed and dies unless he's got some metal between his gooey bits and the thing what's stabbing him. But if you're a Hero whose "power within" is being tough as hell, so long as something's "armor" to you, it's only gonna make you tougher no matter what material or coverage the "armor" in question is. Like, you know how Saint George's Ascalon completely killed the fuck out of a dragon? Do you think that happened because Ascalon was a miraculous magical weapon? Or do you think that happened because Saint George was the miraculous magical man who happened to be holding the weapon? Same deal.

And sure, things get a little nutty once magic gets involved, but it's still the same basic principle. It doesn't matter if the armor looks like a suit of plate and mail, a bikini or even a business suit because, strictly speaking, it's not really armor. Some dingbat wizard just went and took a fortress with all of its defensive abilities and toughness and protective qualities, and "magicafied" it into the size and shape of something a person could wear. So it doesn't really matter what it looks like. So long as a person is wearing it, they may as well be standing inside of a fortress.
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>>48174932
Actual medieval armor was sloped so that weapons slide away. Having a portion of it bent so it's slides into is inefficient, but yea it's still not REEE INSTANT DEATH.
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>>48174812
Chainmail bikinis are actually underwear. Think a solid steel brassiere. Wearing it without an actual breastplate is actually a common mistake that actual professionals scoff at.
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>>48175767
what if there is no cleevage between mountain number 1 and mountin nomber 2?
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>>48175022
Is there fucking, or is it just tits and fanservice?
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>>48175827
its not hentai
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>>48174836
>How do you like it when the catgirl paladin takes off her full plate armor and dresses up in a poofy gown, because she has to attend a fancy ball?

I fucking *love* fancy ball sessions.

It forces everyone to actually think outside of combat.
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>>48175821
Then you just pack them into a regular sloped armor and be done with it.

Seriously, it has enough space. That shit looks like a fucking ship prow.
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>>48175827
Nothing explicit but loads of nudity.
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>>48175821
Then what's even the point of boob armor?
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>>48175859
>It forces everyone to actually think outside of combat.
>implying
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>>48175827
>>48175842
>>48175874
https://bato.to/reader#122e4817a83e9a5a_9
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>>48175859
>Ballroom sessions
Fuck. Yes.
Diplomacy, awkward social interaction and alcohol.

I've had two super memorable goes at it in two different campaigns.

One as the party bard and diplomancer I had to woo more diplomats than my evil counterpart without more than verbal sparring. Great fun.

Second as a Wizard with a past as a court adviser trying to keep the more rough and tumble party in check while dealing with the advances of a totally not vampire countess

Good times.
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>>48174865
In Shattered Lands, there's actually a justification for this; arcane spells create heat, so mages wear skimpy clothes to cool off.
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>>48175946
>Not worshipping itzpalt
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>>48174812
Is this unit too scantily clad for you.
MODULUS (spaketh: "Teehee.")
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>>48175827
there is a porn version
by the same artist
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>>48176000
This is a blue boad you degenerate!
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>>48175075
Talking about this excuse, I'd better have enchanced regular bikini for my char. To get more comfort than metal g-strings, while keeping the visual impact.
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>>48175962
I'd rather worship Lulwy's ass.
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>>48177028
Enjoy getting your ass kicked by any kid with fire bolt.
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>>48176422

To be fair you'd most likely wrap the armored bikini parts in padding like a brigantine armor, maybe even cover them in silk or swade, either of which would give a delightful feeling as they rubbed against your nipples and groins as you moved about in them.
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>>48174812
>Teach me about fantasy armor, /tg/

Reminds me of that one game where the planet was safed because of the tramp stamp your MC got when they infiltrated a brothel earlier in the story.
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>>48174812
>Teach me about fantasy armor, /tg/
You're asking why I'm wearing the armor all the time?
The armor isn't there to protect me.
It's there to protect my enemies.
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>>48180740
I need a source on that game
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>>48181305
Septerra Core
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>>48175101
Seconded, I like it because I find it more aesthetically pleasing.
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>>48174812
I just had a weird idea of experimenting with this as sort of an underlying thing with a setting:

In the setting, women were blessed by a warrior deity (or some shit like that) some time ago so that as long as they had iron, steel, or any other non-decorative metal on their person, they would be protected as well as wearing a full suit or armor.

While this doesn't necessarily mean women run around in chainmail bikinis, it does mean they could actually go into battle wearing even less (a steel choker and a smile).

This might mean women end up favored for military purposes because it's easier to equip women than men (who are not protected by this blessing)

And that's about all I got.
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>>48174812
I'm just imagining that in setting, the original creator of lingerie armor is baffled by all these women wearing their underclothes enchanted for full body protection.

I mean, yeah you can technically do that, but the original intent was something that could be discreetly worn under any day to day clothes.

Mind you, they're not complaining either. Just pleasantly confused as to how the current situation developed despite having enabled it.
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>>48174836

This is a decent compromise granted that she carries a shield in-battle.
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Depends on which fantasy tradition you're talking about.

In western fantasy, armor has a historical precedent in medieval history and thus serves a purpose: it blocks blows that would have otherwise killed you.

Due to the demands of visual storytelling however, not everyone can go around in full plate with a great big steel helmet. So they start stripping down to the essentials: a breastplate, usually. Maybe some gloves.

In the eastern tradition armor was a sign that one expected to get hit, and thus portrayed a lack of confidence in one's martial skills (the best defense is not getting hit). So they usually just wear nice looking clothes and maybe some pauldrons (check out some of the crazy shit court nobility used to wear).
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>>48181872
>In the eastern tradition armor was a sign that one expected to get hit, and thus portrayed a lack of confidence in one's martial skills (the best defense is not getting hit).

>They only want to be swift as the winds
>They don't want to also be as enduring as the mountain

These people failed to grasp their own philosophies.
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>>48174812
A true master of the manly arts.
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>>48174985
Eh, I know it's popular to like girls becoming jibbering bags of emotion when forced into a dress, but... I like confidence.

Warrior girl strips out of bloody full plate, cleans it off, then marches into the ball in a frilly gown with her head held high? Yes please, I love a woman who knows what she wants.
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>>48175938
I am totally stealing that second idea, thank you
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>>48181560

Huh, this is a genuinely pragmatic approach. I mean, if you can have the defensive capabilities, light weight and comfortability, why wouldn't you wear them? Also if they were worn under heavy clothing, sudden assassination attempts would be hard to confirm if they succeeded in the end.

Stealing it
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>>48174959
>>48174941
>>48174836

Why not wear plate over a ballroom-worthy gown?
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>>48182010
Somehow, I just see this playing out in my mind:

>"Are you uncomfortable in that ballgown, captain?"
>"I'm mostly worried about my ability to fight, thankfully, I'm still protected."
>She tears off her dress revealing her armor under it.
>"I've taken precautions."
>She then tears off her armor revealing another ballgown.
>"Both for combat and social emergencies."
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>>48174836
>>48174941
Why not both?
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>>48174941
>>48182328
>>48182368
Hi.
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>>48174962
God I love the characters in RF4. It's so rare that non-romantic interests in these kinds of games are good.

Forte is probably Best Girl though. I normally don't like the "waaah, I'm a tomboy, I can't be seen doing anything feminine", but Forte skirts that nicely by simply avoiding anything unbecoming of a knight (or Dame), or at least trying to. Is it so much to ask for to want a female warrior who is actually feminine in both appearance and behavior without her constantly blushing about it?
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>>48181872
>Due to the demands of visual storytelling however, they start stripping down
this is basically it for almost all media

the less conspicuous form is "no facial protection", which is prominent at anime illustrations such as this one>>48174836
even at "capeshit" flicks lately the actor will unmask himself just to show it's him doing the part, though in-universe that was a terrible move if they were so worried about secret identities

then there's both cheescake and beefcake, which are basically a show on the artist's anatomy prowess. they're a classic and here to stay

and then there's "cool/scary but impractical": super huge pauldrons and pointy elements everywhere that are supposed to poke on your enemies but could poke yourself with them as well

what's the problem with it? it's visually appealing, but when it comes to the eternal balance between fluff and crunch, many crunch-sided players will think "great since this armor sucks then i get bonus if i hit specific weak points". no one cares how a character looks but what benefit they can take from it because it's a game and some people play to win.
you can get away by fluffing it with "magic powers" and "it raises Charisma" but >>48175101 would not be happy at all with it, nope can't do

there's a lot of japanese examples so i looked up for western movie ones
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>>48181980
I bet they've not even considered being as strong as a raging fire, or as mysterious as the dark side of the moon.
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>>48174812
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>>48182445
>>48182368

>female skirts

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>>48182719
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>>48182750
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>>48182750

>that fucking face on the right page
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>>48182811
which one
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>>48182844
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>>48182844
right page, so he's probably talking about how the guy on the horse seems like this is the happiest moment of his life.

>>48182719
>male skirts
>Not wearing full bronze, men's dresses.

Pfft, it's like you want to be able to walk under your own power.
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>>48176226
Sauce?
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>>48182811

note that it appears to be from whatever this is also from - I want noted the ginger guy who appears to have tried and failed at cullottes on the left, and Bello Jaunty-Hat on the right who appears to be sporting a zulu leather sheild and what looks like the arrow head of a giant as a spear.
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>>48174836
>animu
>catgirl
>no less than fucking Chocola herself it seems
>boobplate conveniently not covering the areas that require the most protection
>zettai ryouiki
>that joke of a headgear
>oversized sword
>ARMOR HEELS
>cape
>seemingly putting on Saber

Found my most TRIGGERING image on the internets ever. Call the ambulance - my butthole is unable to process the knot of purest hatred that the mere act of looking at this image stirs within me, so I think I'm gonna anally chock on it in about 15 seconds.
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>>48182934
>Dendra panoply and Mycenaean equipment

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar
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>>48175034
If you're used to pragmatically-functional clothing and armor, suddenly switching to something which causes people to pay attention to you can be strange.

>>48182460
The male romantic interests in RF4 are so disappointing, though. I made a second save file with a male character pretty much exclusively so I could romance Forte, because apparently lesbianing is not an option.
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>>48182965
oh i know that magazine.

Yeah, half the shit in that is bullcrap
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>>48182345
Not
>"I'm mostly worried about my ability to fight; thankfully, I'm still protected."
>rests her head on your shoulder and holds your arm tight
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>>48182532
To be fair to Xena, the way she fights would be greatly impaired by heavy/standard armor. Her approach is more a dex based fighter. But yea the mid section removal is just sex appeal.
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>>48177744
Implying I'm not sitting at the peak of resistances,
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>>48175075
Why not have your wizard friend turn your full plate into pseudo-power armor?
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>>48184103

Isn't she basically a weird barbarian/paladin in concept? I vaguely remember something about how she gains her barbarian rage powers/warrior princess ability from a connection to aries and the concept of war itself, and otherwise is a high-Touch-AC, high dps martial.
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>>48184739
That's for the BBEG or their second in command.
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>>48184802
I don't remember any of that in the show.

Her relationship to Ares was basically him lusting after her because of how ruthless and skilled a warrior she was.

All of her powers came from training. We see a monk that can do her pressure point shit, Callesto can throw the ring blade like her, and the flipping/jumping is basically ninja shit I'm assuming would be standard for the universe. She gets god killing powers later on cause prophesies.

If I had to place her in a DnD type class. I'd say Barbrian/Monk with an abnormally high dex.
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>>48184968

I think it might have been from when she was "evil" during her original apperance on the hercules show.

She might have gotten depowered during the hercules show and then buffed when she got her own show, but I didn't watch either show that religiously.
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>>48174812
Sexy armor gains the majority of its protectiveness due to its similarity to the true, world-of-forms armor. It basically acts as a conduit, channeling the power of the true armor while providing little defense on its own. Of course, it protects less than the true armor, and less than full suits of mundane armor (which have considerable defensive capabilities on their own, *and* draw power from true armor), but it also does very little to encumber you or restrict your movement. Because of this, sexy armor can actually end up being better than a full suit of armor, even if provides you less protection against a blow that actually hits you.

Of course, sexy armor works much better on women because their natural curves enhance and strengthen the matrix projection of the channeled true form armor. Or was it that the resonance of the armor's channel to true armor is closer and more complementary to a woman's yin-aspected aura, thereby magnifying its protective effects? I always forget. But whatever the case, men have to wear markedly more armor to get a significant benefit from it.
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>>48182345
>She then tears off her armor revealing another ballgown.
>"Both for combat and social emergencies."
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>>48175075
>can be as silly as it as the people
what did he mean by this?
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>>48174812
Doubles as formalwear if you're nobility.
Not full plate, obviously, but 'lighter' heavy armor, like scale mail.
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>>48182328
>>48182368

Why not make a regular dress so technological/magically advanced that it counts as armor?
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>>48182934
>That armour
Holy crapping Christ... Alright, uh, skirmishers, could you distract them for like, 5 minutes until they collapse under their own weight and exhaustion?

I mean, I get the idea of wanting a lot of protection. Believe me, I do. I LOVE the heavy infantry! But there's such a thing as going too far, guys!
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>>48174812
It just works.
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>>48183789
Oh god, my heart. A girl who's confident, strong and knows what she wants, but still isn't afraid to rely on someone else or make you feel like her protector...

It's the best, really.

>You will never be the Knight-Captain's favorite squire
>You will never help her out of her armor and brush her hair
>You will never have her just hold you and sigh, relaxing around someone she can trust
>You will never be her protector at her most vulnerable moments, physically and emotionally
>You will never have to put up with her teasing and flirting trying to distract you
>You will never stop her playing by suddenly hugging her and kissing her cheek, making her playfulness melt into warm affection
>It hurts... It hurts too much...
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I am lenient when it comes to fantasy armor, it can be a bit lacking, or even ridiculously huge and spiky, but bikini armor should stay in porn and ecchi works, not even I can take bikini armor seriously.
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>>48189172
That is by far not the only time armored skirts of that size were being worn.
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>>48183789
>>48189234
mmm, I'm enjoying this waifu concept. I'll have to use this somehow.
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>>48175034
They're designed to draw attention to you
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>>48175938

I have to add that the way to make this work is to put the reward for their quest or what have you up for discussion -at the ball-. Not just given, but now they have to be at the celebration and not fuck up.
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>>48182650

> tries to make a feminist point

> ends up making a misogynistic one

Can't have women be sexualized AND be capable. That's just for men!
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>>48190065
>tries to make a guro fetishist point
>succeeds
Don't overthink it, anon.
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>>48190037
If the strength of your virtue and the resilience of your faith are insufficient to protect you from the enemies' attacks, perhaps you should leave the fighting to someone competent.
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>>48190220
>all that cowardly limb protection
All ye need is woad
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>>48190237
You know that, and I know that, but the union has rules for this kind of thing and being a non-unionized hero in today's world sucks. No insurance, man. NO insurance.
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>>48183234
>Anonymous: the Triggering
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>>48182445
That's cloth of silver, not armor.
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>>48181589
Based on the size oh her hands, and the length of the hilt, that's a two-handed weapon, anon. So, unless she'd got one of those D&D style bucklers that you strap to your arm, she has no shield.
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>>48175041
god i fucking hope that's a trap.
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>>48175101
I prefer practical/realistic looking stuff, but I guess I could respect if people were just honest about this stuff. Be the Kamitani
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>>48191090
she's not.
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>>48191120
>I just really like big tits.
This is a man that knows what he likes, and isn't afraid to admit it.
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>>48191175
probably easier to do when you don't have a PR department.
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>>48174836
My barbarian only puts armor ON for formal occasions.
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>>48191120
Why does he look so cute in last pic?
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>>48174892
>Girls only

Creeper or SJW? YOU decide!
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>>48191175
Kamitani likes three things: hand-drawn art assets, overly-dramatic body proportions (the Hiromu Arakawa philosophy of "Men should be buff! Women should be vavoom!"), and lovingly-rendered delicious-looking food. I would play the fuck out of any game he GMed.
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>>48191448
every vanilaware game i saw gave me hunger every goddamn time
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>>48191120
>If people were just honest about this stuff

I hate when they try to explain it.

No one ever asked Conan why he was running around in a speedo in the comics.
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>>48191448
>>48191175
>>48191120
He's very consistent about giving the necromancers the biggest jugs.
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>>48182943
http://g.e-hentai.org/tag/parody%3Auchi+no+musume+ni+te+o+dasuna
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>>48189917
>The Lord High Commander doesn't believe a woman can be a knight in anything but title
>Much less lead soldiers
>Most of his complaints have some grounding outside of prejudice... Respect of the men, risk of capture, pregnancy, etc...
>Your Knight-Captain tries twice as hard, specifically because of her disadvantage
>Does a better job than most men of her rank because of that effort
>She's the best thing to happen to the regions and men under her command in years and you defend her as such in council
>She tells you to sit down, as you're speaking out of turn, given she's your commander. Her own defense quiets the complaining temporarily however
>After she has spoken, her hand sneaks across under the table and squeezes yours. She gives you a small, but heartfelt smile when no-one's looking
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>>48191683
Apparently it's some kind of twisted fertility goddess thing. Like, undeath is a form of life, so people who hold dominion over the proliferation of undeath are similar to people who hold dominion over the proliferation of life.
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>>48192147
>Apparently it's some kind of twisted fertility goddess thing

Nah, they made their point pretty clear in Grim Grimoire: Bringing people back from or letting them leave the land of the dead is actually an act of fertility. They're granting life in the act.
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>>48183637
Whaaa whaaa muh muh LGBTQP+
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>>48182650
Isn't it possible for a completely unarmoured swordsman to BTFO a fully armoured one in a sword fight though?
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>>48192618
Yeah, but the dude in the armour pretty much has the upper hand because he can take the initiative without giving a fuck about 90% of what's going to come at him.
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>>48192618
Its possible but improbable, one on one, a person wearing full plate will be significantly more likely to survive a swordfight than a person wearing any lesser armor. One of the points of full plate is to give you the ability to ignore most of your enemies attacks outright, it means you can take risks and make mistakes without being killed doing so. Also gauntlets mean you can grab your opponents sword without losing any fingers.
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>>48192871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN30YMzja6Y

Armor status:
[X] BTFO
[ ] Not BTFO
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>>48192618
Armor reduces the opportunities available for an attacker to inflict damage to the wearer while not offering many downsides if the two foes were to meet with equal stamina.
This allows the armor wearer to be more brash with their actions.

Armor still gives access to a mostly full range of mobility and isn't absurdly heavy.
You'll tire out a bit quicker because each movement is accelerating more weight though and you'll probably be more uncomfortable on account of the possible heat buildup.

The armor in the picture doesn't have issues with head movement (aside from looking up I guess), FoV or breathing since it's open face and visorless without a bevor but that still leaves the entire face exposed.

That's pretty moot though because high heels that high and made of what is apparently metal are a death warrant.
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>>48193025
>GoT fights can show the efficacy of armor in any way
>Staged and choreographed fights are capable of showing the efficacy of armor in any way

It also doesn't go against what either of the two commenters said.
He had the upper hand and his defeat was improbable, when excepting his need to git gud.
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>>48193109
pretty sure anon was trolling and/or joking.
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>>48193025
>they can't even set up a proper duel, so the duellists constantly run into the crowd and fall all over furniture

Low testes production. The crew probably eats Tofu every day.
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>>48193025

Did this autist just post a GoT video and say BTFO? lmao
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This is relevant I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkI
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>tfw like practical armor AND the skimpiest of chainmail bikinis

I can never lose
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>>48193142
You know who's the best fighter ? The one who get out alive
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>There are people in this thread right now who won't charge into battle armoured only by faith
>There are people in this thread right now who would not remove spaghetti with your stoic battle boner
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>>48183693

As long as the horse skirts are real I'm happy.
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>>48174969
>Burning Fate points.png
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>>48193305
It's a good opinion to have. The best opinion really.
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>>48174812
I tend to default to low level magic/alchemical enhancments being fairly easy so making woad that actually protects or a "fullplate bikini" is only somewhat difficult (depending on available resources, it may actually be easier/cheaper than making actual fullplate)
Making it +5 is just as difficult as making a fullplate +5 though


That and I assume adventurers like to flaunt it so the main complaint about bikini armor or bananahammock armor is that it's tacky, not useless
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>>48175859
>It forces everyone to actually think outside of combat.
lol
>implying people won't just leave the talking to the bard or whoever likes talking the most, while the awkward nerds and the guys with 8 cha characters won't just watch like always
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>>48193921

Indeed
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>>48186162
You don't actually know anything about armor, do you? Armor does not restrict movement when it fits. Ever. The range of motion for armor is larger than the human body can manage. Stripping down is just going to make you colder -- not more mobile.
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>>48175049
>I'd be more comfortable naked in public than wearing a ball gown in the privacy of my own room
Probably has something to do with your sexuality.
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>>48175767
If you fall onto the boob plates you break your sternum and die.
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>>48193635
>Armored by faith
Nope!
>Armored by nothing because you are badass Celt who is gaining glory like a motherfucker.

Please do Celts correctly anon, thought you second one was spot on.
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>>48193305
I'm with you bro, though I slightly favor the 'covered' end of the spectrum.
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>>48182345
>>She tears off her dress revealing her armor under it.
>>"I've taken precautions."
>>She then tears off her armor revealing another ballgown.
>>"Both for combat and social emergencies."
Fuck hahaha
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>>48174812

This is He-Man
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>>48193305
That armor is pretty cool, don't you have it in purple?
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>>48200662

10/10 taste anon. Best SC girl.
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>>48196208
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>>48193305
Looks like Ellen
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>>48201529

"Biologically" is a stupid way to start is, but tomatoes are classified as fruits rather than vegetables. Seeds, mate.
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>>48201959
It's the "not a vegetable" part that gets you into trouble. In a scientific sense, vegetables are synonymous with plants. It's in this sense that a tomato is a fruit, but it's still vegetable matter. It's only in a culinary sense that fruits and vegetables are distinct and separate categories, and here tomatoes are definitely vegetables (as are other seed-bearing things, like cucumbers, pea pods, squash, bell peppers, cucumbers, etc.).
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>>48202168
Ah, right, pedantic overly technical hair splitting.

Like those assholes who respond to the idiotic "I don't want chemicals in my food" groups with "Lol, errythings a chemical m80"

It may be correct, but they know exactly what is meant, and they just come off as someone who needs a good blanket party thrown for them.
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>>48174812

I love ridiculous fantasy armor as much as I love realistic armor.

Why can't we just accept there is a time and a place for both?
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>>48202277
>Ah, right, pedantic overly technical hair splitting.
Yes, much like "correcting" people who call tomatoes vegetables.
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>>48202406
Because neckbeards and sjws throw a hissy fit whenever they see something remotely girly or sexualized.

It's never about the armor, it's about the idea that a pretty girl who flaunts her sexuality might possibly exist in this fictional universe. Insecure men get angry because it reminds them that they won't ever get it in real life, insecure women get angry because it reminds them that they will never look like that in real life.

Healthy individuals can respect fantasies and ideals, but healthy individuals don't go around starting online arguments.
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>>48201959
as far as actual botanists are concerned there is literally no such thing as a vegetable
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>>48191581
>No one ever asked Conan why he was running around in a speedo in the comics.

Interestingly few people are critical of it either. I don't think I've ever recall being subjected to a bitch session about how could Conan possibly survive an arrow shot wearing nothing but decorated underwear.
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>>48202869
They use the "power fantasy" argument

Apparently Conan being a power fantasy means it doesn't matter whether it's practical or not.

I believe in the novels one of the reasons Conan was such a badass was that he was big and strong to actually wear heavy armor, or so I've been told here.

But you know what? People like seeing half naked barbarians running around slaying bodies, so that's what we get and there's nothing wrong with that
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>>48202168

Fairly certain you're incorrect. Fruits are distinct from vegetables in a culinary sense.
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A lot of people divert it by pointing out that he wore clothes in the books, even though the vast majority of visual representations of him (and thus the popular image) are in a loincloth.

God forbid somebody brings up John Carter, where everyone is naked in the books and only gets censored by thongs and jewelry in the art. I suppose the same goes for Tarzan, wasn't he completely naked in the books?
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>>48174812
the cool thing is , gaming systems can abstract it into something useful no matter how retarded, and in fiction plot armor makes attacks only hit the protected parts or make the wearer just better at dodging.
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>>48202558
Let the barbarians, rogues and sorceress' wear the skimpy outfits, but when the lady Knight Captain, who is for some reason the only female in the entire military forces of the country, wears deliberately less protective armour for the sake of a cleavage window than the soldiers standing next to her then it's getting silly.
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>>48203287
>I suppose the same goes for Tarzan, wasn't he completely naked in the books?
Dude was also raised by animals.
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>>48203336
I agree, that pisses me off to no end.

That said, I have no problem if her male counterparts all wear skimpy armor as well. Consistency > Realism.
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>>48203372
>>48203336
I should also add that "lady knight captain who is the only female warrior in the kingdom" is cringy no matter what she's wearing. Either women can be warriors or they can't.
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>>48203042
You might want to reread the post you think you're disagreeing with.
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>>48203404
I would also add that "black guy who is the only black president of the country ever" is cringy no matter what his political platform is. Either black guys can be president or they can't.
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>>48203404
There's plenty of warrior women in the world, they're just never goons or cannon fodder, every one of them is special.
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>>48203506
That comparison would make sense if every politician was white except Obama.
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>>48203512
Why?
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>>48203533
There has to be a first for everything.
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>>48199205
>badass Celt who is gaining glory like a motherfucker
Killed like a mongrel dog more like. Just because fighting as a cohesive force is weird for your people.
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>>48203552
Because they're cute!
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>>48175075
why would an all powerful wizard waste their time on ... Oh wait, never mind...
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>>48203563
Yeah and that first is usually at the low levels.

Minorities get into low ranks before high ones. That's how pretty much every organisation there is functions.
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>>48203506
It's a "Reality is unrealistic" sort of thing. I understand that Joan of Arc is a good real life example of "Super special lady knight surrounded by guys", but it still looks silly in fiction. Just because exceptions exist in real life doesn't mean everyone should play a snowflake.
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>>48203512
>is special
Yep, gotta keep up morale through propaganda.
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>>48201529
The american civil war didn't have anything to do with slavery.
Lincoln didn't bother freeing the slaves until it meant winning the war, he outright stated that he wouldn't be doing it if he didn't have too and even then he only freed the slaves in the south.

Who made this infograph?
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>>48203552
Why not?
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>>48203734
Because it's unrealistic and kinda dumb.
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>>48203769
Realism is dumb. You're dumb.
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>>48203715
>The american civil war didn't have anything to do with slavery.
Welcome to mount stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Causes_of_secession
>The causes of the Civil War were complex and have been controversial since the war began. James C. Bradford wrote that the issue has been further complicated by historical revisionists, who have tried to offer a variety of reasons for the war. Slavery was the central source of escalating political tension in the 1850s. The Republican Party was determined to prevent any spread of slavery, and many Southern leaders had threatened secession if the Republican candidate, Lincoln, won the 1860 election. After Lincoln won without carrying a single Southern state, many Southern whites felt that disunion had become their only option, because they thought that they were losing representation, which would hamper their ability to promote pro-slavery acts and policies.
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>>48174812
Thikker = better
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>>48203791
>literally posting historical republican propaganda

Anon, I literally cannot even grasp the depths of your stupidity. Lincoln outright stated that he wouldn't have freed the slaves if he didn't have to in order to win the war.

>After Lincoln won without carrying a single Southern state, many Southern whites felt that disunion had become their only option, because they thought that they were losing representation, which would hamper their ability to promote pro-slavery acts and policies.
They left because they literally had no influence in the political establishment.
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>The civil war was about states rights.
>Particularly the right to have slaves.
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>>48203838
>Particularly the right to have slaves.
>goes to war because he wants to "free slaves"
>doesn't free the souths slaves until it's the only way to win the war
>doesn't free his own slaves or any slaves in northern states
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>>48203787
Every setting has internal realism, unless it's just badly written.

Why do women somehow exist in prominent roles in your setting without ever rising through the ranks? What makes them special?
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>>48203879
I never said that, In fact I was the one complaining about it.
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>>48203832
Because Lincoln wanted to keep the nation together by any means necessary.

>which would hamper their ability to promote pro-slavery acts and policies.
>They left because they literally had no influence in the political establishment.
And the only reason they felt that way was because of issues regarding slavery.

Now get back in your Dixie-painted pickup truck and go home.
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>>48203854
The North went to war to keep the Union together, not to free the slaves.

The South want to protect their economic rights- mostly defined by slave usage and noted in most individual states' reasons for secession.
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>>48203287
>>48203345
Tarzan adapted the dress of some nearby cannibal tribe at one point in the novel. He also is a huge fucking beta.
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>>48203895
>>48203904
>"no seriously it was about the slaves, even though the souths economy was no more dependent on slavery than the norths was

They felt that way because a president got elected without a single southern state giving him their approval, that makes them entirely subservient to the northern states.
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>>48182965
>slutty italian mercs
>look at the face on the top right
>oh yes, dat swizz chin

And something about the face on the bottom left makes me feel very uncomfortable, and its not just the crouch purse
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>>48203832
Ultimately Lincoln really had little to no say in the matter because those slaves voted to be free with their legs.
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>>48191309
That raises a question:

How effective would scale-like chain mail be when compared to regular chain mail?
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>>48190065
The murder machine is a woman. I understand you might be confused, because she doesn't have huge metal titties, but look closely.
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>>48204057
About the same, chainmail is more flexible, scale can be compromised from beneath.
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>>48204102
It's still slut shaming. The implicit message is that women can only be taken seriously if they abandon everything sexy or conventionally feminine.
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>>48204153
No, it's just mocking fantasy armour that women end up in as worthless.
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>>48204228
And in doing that it's implying that femininity and sexuality are worthless.
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>>48204326
well, they're not as good as a well fitted suit of armour.
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>>48204326
You're reading too much into it. Just by saying a chainmail bikini is less protective in a fight than full plate isn't some anti female message.
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>>48204402
IT'S NOW CLUNKY ARMOR THREAD
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>>48198214
That's not how distribution of force or the human body works.
So congratulations, you're a fucking retatrd.
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Anyone got hardlight/forcefield/ghost armor?

Protects like armor, worn over clothes like armor, but it's weightless and probably translucent.
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>>48204472
No, but I've got ghosts in armor
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>>48175859
>It forces everyone to actually think outside of combat.

more like

>looks like the ball got attacked by robbers/revolutionaries/sneks/Hydra, enjoy getting murdered without your equipment
every single tiem.
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>>48204537
That's why I never go to balls or other such events. If the party is going to meet the King and they have to take away our weapons then I'm just going to wait outside.

Then use the time I'm not doing anything to buy snacks for everyone.
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>>48183234
Could you have more properly armored zettai ryouiki? Like, skin-coloured leather armor under cuirass and greaves?
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>>48203854
I wish the Lincoln-didn't-care-about-slavery meme would die.

Like, it wasn't his main issue, because he was trying not to tear the country apart. But he WAS a free-soiler. As in, he declared that he would not permit slavery to spread to the new states entering the union, which basically means slavery would have been living on borrowed time because congress eventually would have killed it.

TLDR, he was playing the long game on killing slavery.
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>>48203854
>goes to war because he wants to "free slaves"

He really didn't care to, but the general attitude on nonwhites at the time was split - there were those that firmly believed that they'd be dead in a few generations and America would be white coast to coast and those that wanted to artificially keep them alive as beasts of burden.

When the latter tried to spread the use of their beasts to lands that were 100% set on being lands of white free landholders sooner rather than later, tension arose. There were additional issues, like the South apparently being able to out-vote the North on account of being able to bundle all those 3/4 votes and a certain level of anti-slavery attitude combined with the North being unwilling to bear the costs, both in monetary terms and in terms of the public nuisance slave hunters caused.

So really, the Civil War was a war between two groups of racist assholes who disagreed about the role nonwhites should have in the future United States at the basic level of "let them die somewhere we don't have to watch" vs "keep them alive for perpetual servitude".

The USA's oversea colonial policy, or the relative lack thereof, was pretty much the result of the former group's victory in the Civil War.
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>weeb shits taking over
I'm crashing this thread with no survivors.
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>>48205469
>complaining about anime
>on an Inuit hand-woven textile arrangements imageboard
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>>48190220
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>>48184739
>why would the wizard not want to see titties and instead do work and make mundane magical armor
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>>48203567
Ah yes, the typical Roman faggot whenever people discuss the celts.

You know the celts predate the Roman Empire by a good hundred years right?
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>>48205653
>what have the Celts given us
>other than our Gladius, I mean
>and our helmets
>and mail armour
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>>48191120
Quite was legit the worst part of The Phantom Pain and the worst sniper in Metal Gear history.
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>>48206016
IT was worth it for all the vids in which they switched her character model with the dude's in the shower scenes.
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>>48205577
Pictures of animu characters using a lance without a horse triggers me.
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>>48205653
>>48205732
>Gladius is from Iberian tribes
>helmets is Etruscan
>mail armor you loot us, we loot you! Only we'll take everything you have as well

Fucking Celts. You people are Romanaboos and you know it.
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