Kings of War/Mantic general: "Still the best OP image" edition.
Condensed rules:
http://puggimer.net/documents/KOW_Ref_2-0.pdf
Books:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/meedbza42sp4m/Kings_of_War
Errata:
http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/File/KINGS%20OF%20WAR/KoW%20FAQ%20and%20Errata%20290915.pdf
Recommended list builder:
kow2.easyarmy.com
Hit "PDF" at the top right for easy posting of your lists
Includes relevant special rules on the last page.
Kings of Math Damage Calculator
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QBfREAWucgTPeoEhXxO3fqDU141IQw7Ajgp71m5cizs/edit#gid=0
>>48156387
Alright. Now that no one invested in Age of Sigmar is reading:
How's the new Generals Handbook?
I guess no one is on tonight?
bumpin'
18 Minutes of fresh OC, right here.
https://youtu.be/a7ocspamPOY
Anyone notice that Mantic are selling seperate sprues now?
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/sprues.html
>>48158859
That's been a thing for quite a while.
Pretty nice for getting elvish crewmen for my generic-ass warmachines.
What do you guys think about my idea of converting a horde of Basilean Men-At-Arms into two nurglish-looking varangur Bloodsworn regiments?
The backstory of my army is that it was a former Mercenary Company that hid its devoting to their dark patron so as to be able to sell their services throughout the civilsed world.
The men-at-arms in question:
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/basilea/product/basilean-men-at-arms-40-figures.html
I'm looking for some professional and somewhat flashy looking standard infantry and thus far these miniatures are the ones that closest resembles the vision of them in my mind's eye. If anyone know of similar miniatures for a reasonable price let me know as I've heard that these aren't of the best quality.
>>48163669
They're good for conversions.
Problematic:
Arms are a bit large
They're a taller than normal
They've all got facial hair, even if the store page didn't paint them that way.
They need trimming. You can find people that clipped them to size, and you can find some examples of conversions and kit-bashing floating around.
>>48158859
It's handy if you have elves or dwarves from another manufacturer and want the warmchines without crews. The regular sets they sell areundeniably better deals hwoever, especially as you can pay less than a dollar a mini depending on where you buy them from.
>>48164048
That they are tall with facial hair is just great imo. After all the usual not!chaos-army tend to be composed of larger chaps and a mercenary without a beard or a moustasche is just not fit for the life of a sellsword.
>>48164429
>Sounds good
More specifically on "large"
Tall, yes
Disproportionate, yes.
The arms are disproportionate, as is the torso.
There's a funny story behind the Baselians I saw. They were done through China, and the Chinks' CNC machines making the molds couldn't use the file format. Rather than buy software to convert the files the boss just sat some intern down to open the models, and re-create them in the compatible file format. Mantic didn't know what was going on until they started getting the sprues and realized something was wrong and investigated to find they just paid $$$ for molds that weren't even made from the files they sent.
TL;DR
China, lol
>>48165039
>That story
Kek
>>48165336
Literally:
chinese knockoff
>>48165039
Every single time. There is a reason why most companies don't use them. At least Wyrd got out of it OK. At least that ensures Mantic will use Renedra for the rank and file, which is certainly better than what Privateer Press does to make their models.
>>48165393
>Wyrd
What happened between him and chinkland?
>>48165601
Wyrd got out of it OK as in their figures actually come out of China looking nice. Even their limited edition models are plastic thanks to their current arrangement. Everyone else seems to be as screwed over as the manufacturers in your picture, with Reaper and PP being consistent yet shoddier than average.
Finally did some work on my Ogre army. Horde of Warriors. Somehow forgot about that one round base that'll need fixing up though.
>>48167605
You should base in between the feet as well, those gaps are quite obvious.
Nevertheless, cool stuff. Is that two-headed model a Reaper mini?
>>48167654
Nah, from Descent. All my units have an ettin as the leader, because ettins are sweet.
>>48167654
>>48167794
And yeah, obviously not done with the base or with the painting, just wanted to try put some life into the thread.
![BRETS29[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jU1N6KP.jpg "BRETS29[1].jpg")
So I wanted to get into WHFB for some time now but when I finally saved up the money the End Times started. I decided to wait, see what happens and when the dust settled I saw Sigmarines.
So now I'm trying to decide, on which replacement to follow, 9th Age or Kings of War and I wanted to ask if I can have your opinions on pro's and con's of both and how do they compare to each other, purely rule-wise (since I will probably assemble an army from cheap ebay sales). To clarify, I'm going for the closest thing there is to Bretonnia in each respective system.
Will probably repost this question in the Fantasy Battle thread.
>>48168754
Is there any reason you couldn't follow both games?
Also for KoW the Bretonnian equivalent is the Brotherhood.
>>48168754
In KoW the closest equivalent of Brettonians is the Brotherhood, which is largely the same thing with the addition of water elementals that the Brotherhood summons. The fluff is moved around a little with the setting's equivalent of Jesus giving an order of knights an incredibly powerful set of armor that they use.
As far as mechanics goes, Kings of War emphasizes much more streamlined rules rather than having lots of special rules for each faction. It uses height categories instead of true line of sight, it doesn't use model removal so you can do multibasing for dioramas and such. There are no random charge distances, and there is premeasuring. Turns are much shorter than they are in WHFB(Which 9th largely emulates) so games are much faster. You can play the game where everything during one turn is done by one person, making it possible to play with chess clocks. The game has been thoroughly playtested so each faction is actually balanced.
>>48168865
The main cons that are brought up is that individual heroes don't have as many options as they do in WHFB. You generally only choose what your character is riding, what spells if any, and a single magic item to give them. Magic is also much simpler, so you don't have any of the crazy faction specific spells that you would have in WHFB/9th. I didn't like the crazy apocalypse spells in WHFB, but I still would like to see some more additions.
Also what >>48168844
said. There is nothing stopping you from using the same army in both games unless you want to multibase, in which case you would only be able to play Kings of War. They are both fun games which both proudly stick it to the End of Times/AoS. I generally stick with KoW as that is what people at my store play, and I don't need to reference the rules and grind the game to a halt as I try to figure something out.
>>48168865
>There are no random charge distances
No, there are.
Only for Shambling+Surge though, and it's equally good for regular moves as well as actual charges.
>>48156387
So, AoS player here, converting my bases to square so that I can branch out to multiple games. I was wondering, where do you guys buy your non-mantic miniatures? Or Square bases?
How are the beastmen? Theres an event at my lgs this weekend and i want to school some nerds. I have 3 years of whfb expirience and I played one game of KoW (crushed it) 4 months ago.
>>48172771
>Square bases?
Renedra have plenty of cheap bases.
>>48173461
They're very solid: fast, ignore lots of terrain restrictions and hit like a truck on the charge. In a series of Australian tournaments Herd armies had the highest average kill attrition rate against their opponents.
>>48175236
What kind of builds work well?
>>48172771
>Non-Mantic
There are tons of manufacturers for rank and file fantasy stuff like MoM, Avatars of War, Perry, Shieldwolf, and even the Frostgrave plastics which make good militia mobs, fleshlings, and tribal warriors.
>>48172771
You can just find circular base conversion trays which should be fine for all but heroes, which will be on their base alone.
>Multibasing in promo pictures
>Better paintjobs
Glad to see Mantic stepping up their game now that they have done all of the Kickstarter armies.
>>48179337
They look good, probably because there is a lot of recycled Undead army stuff there.
>>48179337
I'm a bit annoyed that they painted up the characters like arse.
>>48179619
It's pretty much literally the undead army with some accessories stuck to it
>>48181311
To be fair, that's how GW originally released the Tomb Kings skeletons.
>>48181311
Yeah, the upper boddies are replaced with metal ones, and a few weapons and such are switched around like the new standards of course.
>>48172771
This place is great. Their movement trays are good, and I am moving my bases over to magnetic bases. Nice to not have to adjust models all over the place,
http://shogunminiatures.com/
>>48173461
herd is brutal. They have the stampede unit, which seems to be one of the few units in the game that seems OP on a per-point basis.
>>48179337
What are the chances they'll keep it up?
What miniatures are these? They look really awesome and I want to throw them into an undead list.
>>48186631
Found them. Apparently they're Privateer Press models.
>>48186631
Those would make for some nice wraiths.
One of the great challenges I've found in KoW is how to arrange deployments against, and prepare to take charges from, a faster list which can dictate combats and gets the critical first strike.
When is the campaign happening?
Oh my, more Varangur candidates from Avatars of War.
>>48191790
Are these polystyrene or ABS? Nice to see Avatars of War putting out more figures.
>>48191790
They're also previewing some Harpy/Fury looking minis.
>>48192481
I think I prefer Mantic's version.
>>48192481
>>48192617
>Prefer Mantics version overall
>Know that these will probably be cheaper and I will buy them anyways
Why did they ever think that restic was a good idea for saving money?
>>48192690
I thought Mantic was ditching restic?
>>48192912
They are, but older models like the gargoyles are still made out of restic
>>48193061
Well yeah, they are not gonna throw their old products into a woodchipper or whatever just because they are not entierly up to date. That is just throwing away money you can't afford to throw away when you're a small company like Mantic.
>>48168754
What your local group plays the most is the best solution. For me, it's KoW. 9th age also doesn't really solve the inherent problem of bloat that WHFB had.
Next kickstarter when?
>>48195149
Next one is dreadball, isn't it?
>>48195149
>tfw still no TAG Halflings
>>48156387
What's are my options for online play?
I'm too lazy to paint anymore.
>>48195174
Yup, end of the month, God knows I have enough Dreadball stuff already, but no doubt I'll be backing it anyway.
>>48198055
How is Dreadball anyway?
>>48198087
Solid base, far removed from Bloodbowl, with a real fluid feel to it. Several elements in need of attention though, with refs being a thing, but being near useless (given the pointlessness of fouling) and one of the main player roles (as well as one of the rare ones) being under-powered. League system somehow manages to be both over complicated -and- bland. Balance wise it's O.K. with a few outlying teams of the 24 currently available.
All in all it's in need of a 2nd edition and from what we've heard so far, Mantic are well aware of the current shortcomings and will fix these issues in 2nd.
I wonder if Brexit will affect Mantic in any significant way?
>>48198720
Minis getting cheaper for anyone outside the UK, probably more expensive within.
>>48198855
I don't think it would change the prices. They don't follow conversion rates.
>>48200669
If the pound drops and your local currency goes up, though, you can get it a bit cheaper maybe.
>>48200787
Unless it affects eBay prices I'm still going to be paying the same amount of dollars even if those dollars are stronger. And Mantic is not shit enough that I'd rather support them and buy directly unless it's a major drop.
What are the strong points of the League besides the Altar and the landsknetchs ? Currently building up my forces and I'm wondering if I overlooked something.
>>48201135
Volley guns are sweet, too. Lots of options for cheap drops. If I was building Rhordia, I'd be tempted to go for a MSU strategy, with a couple of big units of knights to mop up.
>>48198023
The vassal module is in the mediafire page
Universal Battle also exists
I have always wanted to try this game with tabletop simulator. Imagine doing so with VR and a leap motion controller, along with 3D models ripped from whatever generic fantasy games you think look good.
>>48201411
Volley guns are nice on paper but they suffer from ra being 5 so much
Thinking of repainting and rebasing my old GW lizardmen in nightstalkers because they would be pretty terrifying in black and purple.
Hey guys just getting into KoW looking for a basic 1000pt army for dwarves I got the mega and starter armies for super cheap and was wondering what to paint first, thanks!
>>48206337
I would start out with the basic infantry before moving on to more fancy minis just to get down the method and colour scheme.
>>48158859
Mantic have always sold individual sprues, since they first started in 2012.
They also haven't added any new sprues since they released Orcs (I think) in 2013 (I think).
It's something they still do because they always did, but they're not rushing to add all their new sprues; only the first and most basic ones.
Also, you've gotta buy things like bases separately, and they come in mostly unhelpful multiples.
I suspect it's intended for possibly someone wanting to do a wholesale deal or something.
bump
>>48207340
>>48207015
I'm guessing the individual sprues are sold the way they are because people might just want them for kitbashing or something.
Bump
Got back into this game when I saw the CoK pack FINALLY addressed the fliers issue.
Holy shit this game is good now that they've admitted their was an issue and fixed it.
>>48201720
>>48198023
There's a good community on UB
>>48211885
Are they ever going to add Kings of War rules for Blaine?
>>48212400
I was wondering about that myself. They even made a mini for him.
>>48212448
They only added a handful of rules for Dungeon Saga characters with the campaign book. None of the other ones like that vampire lord or the naiad stalker have been given anything yet. I imagine that you are meant to use them as generic characters, as they have recommended using the naiad hero as a regular stalker and the Basilean one as a regular abess.
>>48212498
Maybe they will get rules in the 3'rd edition in 5 years or something?
>>48214470
I have no idea why they would completely change editions to add a few stat blocks in. Even then KoW doesn't really need another edition change right now. If anything it is much more likely that any new characters would be added through supplements. The historical one is coming next, so nothing can be expected soon.
>>48214499
Wait, I need to check it tomorrow but isn't there rules to add heroes from DS in the new campaign book ? Because I sure remember something about it.
>>48214662
As I said that only adds Valandor, Mortibris, Ba'el, and the four main dudes. Nothing for Drech'nok or any of the other heroes that they have put out.
>>48214499
I just figure that they might in the future release a new edition that includes all the new armies in Uncharted Empires, campaign rules, maybe some updates and updated fluff.
>>48214993
A compendium hardly warrants a new version name, even at the level of Rules-Cyclopedia. Major mechanical changes like the ones between 1e and 2e would of course be a different story.
>>48216199
Sure, but it's not like they heavily overhauled the game from the first edition either. Most of second edition are a bunch of tweaks and expansion material put into a new edition.
KOW-Newfag here, I have 2 questions;
>What's the Australian scene like in terms of players and general support? More specifically WA.
>Is Abyss a good army to start with? Because value for money and mini-count are already 2 big pluses imo-senpai-desu.
>>48220486
>good army to start with?
Honestly, I haven't found an army that's "harder" to play than the others yet. They're all very well balanced on the whole.
Better if you play enough mock-games to start understanding the tactics, then choose an army based on what you like to use.
Or just what you like the looks / fluff of
For example, abyssals are typically a mix of glass cannon protected by horde, have no war machines (48 inch ranged attacks), have only firebolts (18 inch range shorter than standard 24), have only one unique monster (literally only one monster on the board, ever), and various list-building considerations such as their nimble cavalry are limited as troops.
Then consider you can take 25% of your points as allies which can round out weaknesses, which is great since I think evil armies compliment each other better than the good aligned armies do.
>Australian scene
Kind of want to know this too. Not an Ausfag, but still.
>>48220486
>What's the Australian scene like in terms of players and general support?
Going very strong, we have a bunch of passionate players, people making very creative armies (pic related), content producers, a lively tournament sce-
>More specifically WA.
I can only assume that you need live at least 800Km from the nearest player unless you live in Perth.
Just ordered this, couldn't be bothered to research so just got 1 of everything they had in stock.
Hope I enjoy it.
>>48220486
The abyss has one of the best middle range shooting, very good tarpit units with regen and good hard hitters. I thinks it's a good army for a beginner.
>>48222356
> couldn't be bothered to research so just got 1 of everything they had in stock.
>568 Pounds
You... you have to be running a store or something.
>>48222388
No, just wanted to dive into something new.
>>48222356
>>48222395
Wha-
What?
Can you even paint all that?
Are there even interested players?
>>48222388
> running a store or something
A store would actually get a real discount.
>>48222426
Yeah I can paint it all and yeah Friends/Family will play with me.
Bit burnt out with Games Workshop desu so decided to give Mantic a go and Deadzone looked cool.
>>48222438
>Casually drops 570 pounds
... i-is this what years of Games Workshop has conditioned people to do?
>a go
>a
>go
>Friends/family
wha-? Not even the starter set before the entirety of their product range?
>>48222460
You wouldn't even get quarter of the amount for 570 at Games Workshop so maybe, It seems like a bargain to me.
Dunno, rather just get it all and be done with it for a while. Worst case scenario I figure I can paint and resell for a profit.
>>48222475
Well. OK then. I'm just going to crawl back into the cardboard box I live in and ponder what life would be like if I wasn't spending over half my income on just rent.
>>48222492
That's rough. Hope things pick up for you and you get more dosh.
>>48222460
570 pounds isn't THAT bad is you have a decent salary.
The only reason I don't do that is because I wouldn't have the time to paint it all.
>>48211909
And the thing is fliers are still great, they just aren't broken.
Every faction should get a symbol, IMO. Seems odd to have been lacking them so far.
>>48224259
Because iconography differs within individual factions. They have put out several symbols for Dwarves, Elves, Undead ect. through decals on their web store, with Morgoth's iconography being the most common, but still differing from others like Mortibris's iconography. As each faction isn't necessarily united, giving them all one set of iconography wouldn't make sense.
>>48224677
Surely we could have have symbols for Basilia- a society so drenched in religion ought to about in symbolism. Likewise an Empire like Golloch ought to employ symbols. The Varangur should have symbols as well for the aspects of Korgaan. And the Brotherhood really ought to have heraldry and symbols for something as rich in tradition as the Eternal Watch which was instituted after the Winter War.
I suppose this is just part of a broader complaint that there is not enough flesh on the bones of the fluff. At least we have some bones though.
>>48168754
9th Age:
Pros:
Community Balanced
Actual Updates
Cons:
Need a FLGS to play it in
Need a group to play it with (who want to play your game rules)
Community Balanced
Is a "dead" game
No company backing it
Kings of War
Pros:
Actual Updates
Backed by Mantic
Balanced by a Studio
Faster and simpler gameplay
Good keywording for rules and magic items
Is a living game
Cons:
Need a FLGS to play it in
Need a group to play it with
Mantic might go out of business
>>48225630
>Mantic might go out of business
I keep hearing people saying this, whats it based on?
>>48224890
But Basilea already has a main symbol, see the promo pictures. I am with you on everything else or course, having examples of specific dwarven holds, vampire bloodlines and such with preferred tactics, color schemes, and of course iconography ranging from a coat of arms to a simple pattern for the more savage factions. To say that each faction has nothing is somewhat of an overstatement.
>>48225802
Literally nothing. They have hired a bunch of new people and expanded their holding cash. They are doing fine.
>>48225802
People are probably just concerned about brexit.
>>48225630
>Mantic may go out of business.
Pls no, they were improving they models.
>The Drunk Spaniards is doing it again.
He really loves to do big stuff.
>>48229325
Also he is planing a limited edition of this.
>>48226561
If the fluff ever gets to a point where it's telling you that you can't do certain things, I'm dropping the game like a sack of bricks.The openness of it is the appeal of the game for me.
>>48225630
>9th Age
>No company backing it
Mom Miniatures and especially Avatars of War seem to. Avatars of War have apparently dropped warthrone and renamed their product lines to conform with 9thAge conventions.
>Kings of War
>Balanced by a Studio
Not quite the case, they delegate and awful lot of stuff to the rules committee who have used open betas for balancing, especially KoW2nd ed.
>Mantic might go out of business
I've seen no evidence to support this, yet contrarily Mantic have reported problems keeping up with demand.
>>48229325
>>48230163
>>48229325
>>48230163
Eh, mom minis are a bit too flamboyant for my taste.
>>48233103
I'm not disagreeing, but what do you mean by flamboyant?
>>48232231
I think that he means more that you aren't going to see a company pushing 9th Age rulebooks and conveniently packaged starter sets on to store shelves. I like the direction that both games are going anyways. What would really be tragic is if points values for AoS rounded up enough people to the point where interest is lost in both games.
>>48233281
I just can't see that happening though, AOS's core rules are such a sorry mess that slapping half-assed points on it isn't going to fix anything.
Fuck, it'll only make it worse, at least at the moment it can be casual fun.
>>48229325
Probably easier to work with large models.
just finished some skeletons,
>>48158798
And here is ANOTHER video, hot off the presses.
https://youtu.be/4iQ79Xfv9pE
>>48233160
Too show-offy with proportions and style.
>>48237487
I'm sad that mantics base skellies are way too european-styled for my ophidian army. EoD stuff is really appealing to me for that reason.
>>48238063
Very nice batrep, two rather elite armies at a lower point counts really bring few minis on the table tho.
What are some other companies that do demons/devils really well?
Looking for more fluffy stuff for Abyss models.
>>48222356
Hey guys, I was browsing Mantic and I saw this was the big thing at the minute so I ordered all of this too.
Something to fill the void eh?
>>48240143
I never realised that there was so much Dungeon Saga stuff. It must be doing alright.
>>48222356
>>48240143
It all just dispatched. I wonder how much missing stuff I'll have? I heard there customer service is a bit slow but sends all the missing pieces out in the end so that's okay.
I'm looking forward to burning up time.
>>48240504
I'm curious anon, how does someone with the resources to splash 800 pounds on impulse spending in a few days also have the time to paint or play with all those nice toys?
>>48240608
Wife's life insurance policy. Cashed in.
>>48240623
I'm sorry for your loss, anon.
As to the customer service, I've dealt with them a few times before. They can be a bit slow if there is high demand but thus far they have always provided good service. A few years back I was missing 2 bases from a mega army box and I got a handwritten apology along with a free paint pot. Things aren't that amazing now simply because they've expanded too much to give that much care to each individual customer, but it's still nice and reflects well on how they treat their customers.
>>48240724
Don't be sorry, I met her straight out of university at a much wealthier friends family party. She was over 50 years older than me. We were together for mutual benefit, she had companionship and I now have my own home and a small amount of wealth.
It wasn't easy especially concerning the early years sleeping arrangements and the later years of caring for her in her ill health, but now if I continue to live frugally, aside from the rare treats I will mostly be set for life.
It's nice and sad to read that their customer service isn't as good as it once was, but as you said that's because they are growing bigger as a company.
>>48240623
>>48240798
This cannot be real.
>>48240859
It is. Just one of those bizarre things I suppose.
>>48240001
Rackham and Cypher demons are top tier. Ironically both are from dead companies. You can get the Rackham ones from Cadwallon miniatures though. Their Molochs are amazing and the Succubi make great winged temptresses.
Some threads ago I said I'd play some 6k points games in 6mm scale and some anon wanted to know.
Herd vs Forces of nature. Cardboard proxies worked fine enough for the moment, Microworld stuff is on the way.
It went kinda good.The games lastet about 5 hours and we played up to 8 turns, and it ended in draws usually. The main problem was the lack of appropriate terrian and that we always got stuck in the middle, with some big blocks fighting and the others waiting patiently behind.
We'll have to arrange the terrian better.
Still, it was a lot of fun, having loads of units to move is nice, strategy counts a lot and it's more challenging.
Still need more Lycans, maybe I'll drop the Giant Eagles, and the nine shamans did their job fine. Naids with ensnare and the salamanders with their def 5 can be reallynasty.
Here some shitty pics.
>>48242339
What measurements were you using?
>>48240859
Why not?
This. I want this.
>>48244436
Jaffa! kree!
>>48243250
We use centimeters instead of inches and devided base size by 2.5.
>>48237487
>rag-tag mish-mash
ayyyyyyyI love them
>>48240143
I heard dungeon saga was pretty good
A halfling unit, going to put them on a scenic base
>>48225630
So the worst case for KoW is it ends up being in the same position as 9th if Mantic goes out of business?
>>48247091
With its license their is no indication of that at all.
>>48247091
The system is so proxy friendly you could just play it with tiles if you wanted to. It's not like a Games Workshop game where they have very specific units.
>>48244436
the only thing i dont like is the wimpy axe on the far left
>>48249715
I actually prefer the far left acale of the axe. Seems less ludicrous.
>>48249715
It's still the size of a man's torso tho
Update on my Undead forces. First up my Revenant King on Wyrm.
>>48253157
Lich King
>>48253178
Lycanis
>>48253220
Lycanis left side
>>48253254
And my Werewolves upgraded to a horde.
>>48240798
>>48240623
Damn dude.
Was it worth it? Sounds like you were in it for the money.
I bought Hellfire & Stone to have a read through.
It is disappointingly scant on the fluff (like most KoW books) but it is a nice little campaign book. I think I'll play through it with a friend.
>>48255905
Although there were a few nice excerpts, like in that pic.
>>48255796
Definitely worth it. Yes, I was only there for the money and the home, and she wanted me for companionship due to being a widow. There was no secret about it at first but as she got more frail she desperately wanted to believe I was there out of love and I gave her that, I did my best to make her believe I truly fell in love with her.
Lies of course, I didn't really feel anything for her, not bad or good. Now that she is gone I have more time on my hands than I've had in years and I'm still adjusting to it.
I've always been interested in miniature games and have picked up the odd pieces of Games Workshop in the past, but I wanted to give Mantic a try.
>>48255905
Well, fluff is not Mantic's strong point.
>>48240623
>>48240798
>>48240873
>>48256216
What in the holy fuck is all of this? This isn't me. The package just came from TNT and I got a signed thank you from a guy called Rob and some extras which I think are kickstarter stuff.
>>48257732
It's not entierly uncommon for Mantic to get confused about their kickstarter orders.
>>48256216
After watching The Producers I have always though about doing something similar, but I of course don't have the connections to find a rich old lady. Glad to see a fa/tg/uy living the dream. I hope you enjoy your models. The new Deadzone stuff is nice sprued hard plastic, but a lot of the main Dungeon Saga and some of the older Deadzone stuff is board game plastic, which isn't as good.
>>48257732
It is likely that they gave you the extra stuff out of confusion. Which extras did you get exactly?
>>48257959
>>48257801
Wasn't out of confusion, I got a handwritten thank you note for ordering so much and got Blue Dungeon Saga Dice, Blain from Dungeon Saga, Deadzone Postcards and some sort of Resin Plague monster for Deadzone.
>>48257947
It was just some weirdo roleplaying
>>48258303
This.
4chan isn't real.
>>48258281
>I got a handwritten thank you note for ordering so much and got extras
Fuckkin' sweet
>>48260197
I give people the benefit of a doubt because I'm an optimist and people can be pretty weird.
>>48260411
>I give people the benefit of a doubt
>>48260451
Enjoy being disapointed with everything all the time and to never expect anything weird or cool to happen at the drop of a hat.
>>48260599
It is my burden to bear
>>48260599
So how does the local meta looks like for you guys?
>>48261706
Lots of ex-High Elf players because apparently they were pretty good in WHFB. Their lists pretty much resemble their old WHFB lists because it's what they've got.
Lots of Undead by Mantic, since it was the best line for early adoption, more than we need and we first adapted to anti-Elf.
WHFB players collapsed into a blackhole of deathstar builds buffing elven archers. This more or less died out in the regular players already, but new people keep gravitating towards it. Lots of butthurt towards fliers, individuals, flying individuals, and cheap fodder because of this.
Takes longer than you'd think for people to get used to the idea of actually flanking, rather than min-max builds.
>>48261706
One Elf player, played today, lots of fliers and archer hordes
Goblin player, extremely good, varied armies
Ogre player, a bit new
Demon player
Ratkin player, lots of shooting and stormvermins
Undead players with lots of independent char
2 Herd players
2 Twilight elves players
Right now there is also one building up a Trident army, another one a Ratkin army and another one building a Herd army.
>>48262073
Oh yeah also a guy playing Empire of Dust
>>48179337
>Better paintjobs
lolno
>>48156387
Hey everyone,
I have a £125 coupon for the Mantic Games shop. I'd be willing to sell for £100, giving you a discount of £25 for your troubles.
Is anyone interested?
>>48263699
Wait, is this the same guy as before? Because I wondered if someone bought his already.
Playtesting reward?
Hilariously, I'm set. I've got a buddy in one of the few distributors in the USA that stocks Mantic. I can get everything ~50-60% retail prices.
I just haven't settled on an army yet, waiting to see how the new lines coming out turn out.
>>48263847
Still same guy, sadly it seems that nobody really cares to get mantic stuff. Already made a post on bartertown and nobody is interested. Even contacted people on the mantic forum and they aren't interested.
Not sure where to turn to anymore...
>>48156387
jet beams can't melt steel fuel, op
>>48263699
This sounds like a scam and you only save $25.
>>48264089
The savings is actually $33, was higher before brexit. Not a scam and have ways to prove it via official mantic contacts (got the coupon by working as part of the mantic rules committee).
>>48263699
Too bad you and
>>48257732
>>48240143
>>48222356
Didn't meet
bumping with WIP terrain I'm making
>>48268963
Getting psyched for empire of dust hey?
>>48269299
Actually I'm going to make it a site where the shamans of a particular ogre tribe commune with the tribal ancestors. That sand will all be painted over.
It will be the focal point for a demo game I'll be running, with the Ogres trying to cleanse the sacred site of a Varangur clan that has camped nearby. I'm thinking that Spellcasters will get to roll double the number of dice for their spells while standing on the terrain, which should spice things up. One army will have a fireball Warlock and the other will have a Lightning Bolt Magus.
>>48268963
And the WIP mine, to be used in the first Hellfire & Stone scenario
>>48257732
Hey guys I've gone through everything and I'm missing:
1x Apothecary's Armoire
1x Deadzone Infestation Exham IV Sourcebook
I've sent a ticket so hopefully it'll be sorted soon. Pretty good to be missing so little for an £800+ order. Also my Dungeon Saga came with an Art Print so I think it's a Kickstarter copy, funny.
>>48240608
Just a late birthday present for myself, I haven't gotten any GW stuff in a few months so I had plenty of spare money.
>>48240798
You're a fucking weirdo go pretend to be someone else.
>>48260296
Yeah, turns out it was a note from a guy called Ron not Rob and he's the CEO of Mantic. Awesome huh?
>>48263699
Even if you're being honest, it just seems so dodgy. I couldn't bring myself to buy it from you. Just get £125 worth of stuff with the coupon then sell it for £100. I'd happily buy it from you on eBay/paypal. Especially any Deadzone factions or terrain.
>>48268963
>>48271305
Looking forward to seeing it painted.
>>48273230
I work with mantic as part of the rules committee and can prove it.
Mantic has all my contacts so if I was scamming I'd be not only putting this gig on the line but you can press charges.
I also have a reputation online and don't want to fuck with that either. I'm onepageanon from onepagerules.
Buying the stuff and then reselling is such a huge hassle for this amount of money and I don't have the time.
>>48274657
You sound like a total scammer.
>>48275547
Meh, I really don't know what else I could do to prove otherwise except for:
- providing proof I work with mantic
- putting myself at risk of losing my position
- putting myself at risk of being sued
- putting myself at risk of having a shitty reputation
I'm actually curious, what else would it take to prove that I'm not a scammer? Please let me know so that I can fulfill the requirement to get this deal done.
>>48275597
Exchanging money for coupons is a classical scam.
>>48276405
Even if I can prove beyond shadow of a doubt that this is a real coupon issued by mantic to me for working with them?
>>48263699
Eh, maybe it it was from Warlord games.
>>48268963
Out of curiosity, how exactly where these made? Is that just foam that is cut in a convincing way?
>>48277842
Looks like it.
>>48276586
No you can't prove that, anything you show can be forged. The only thing you can do is actually get things with the coupon and sell them.
If not, you actually sound like a typical conman, trying to make it sound like it's the marks problem for not believing etc.
I'll tell you what, if you really don't want it, I'll give you £10 for it on paypal. If it doesn't work I'll have paypal pull my money back.
>>48274657
>>48275597
Not that guy but-
You're clearly in the UK
And not far from Mantic
Wouldn't it be easier to hit up local game stores to do this?
You can prove ID in person a lot easier
>>48276586
Look. I'm not gonna buy something from a stranger on 4chan.
>>48279414
>>48279406
This.
Nobody sells stuff on 4chan for a reason.
Mantic Games has their own forum
AND it's possibly more active than 4chan's threads.
AND Mantic staff are there on hand to verify things
Why aren't you on the Mantic games forum then?
Anybody got more armies painted?
I want to see more of other people's stuff.
>>48279377
I can prove that by getting you in contact with official mantic people who will tell you that it's true. If the people from mantic are not enough to prove that it's legit then I don't know what else...
>>48279406
Sadly I'm not actually in the UK, else I would've gone for this :(
>>48279524
That's the first thing I wanted to do. Sadly they told me that I can't sell it on the forums. Pic related.
>>48280972
Huh.
You can't put up an ad at your LGS?
>>48280991
Sadly I moved to a country where people literally only play historicals and GW stuff, nobody here cares about mantic whatsoever...
Btw I've also tried bartertown but nobody cares for Mantic stuff there either...
>>48281017
I wonder if you couldn't use it to buy stuff, then post on ebay if someone agreed to buy the ebay listing afterwards or something.
Though you're just as likely to be scammed by a buyer on ebay as a buyer is to be scammed on 4chan.
>>48281040
That would be much more complicated and end up in a lot of time and effort for a loss on everybody's side.
Truly the best thing for everyone would be if someone just buys the coupon off me, then can spend it on whatever they want on the store. Also any order over £40 has free shipping, so it's an even better deal.
>>48277842
>Is that just foam that is cut in a convincing way?
I cut those pieces of foam haphazardly with a cheap Stanley knife, I'm glad you think they're convincing.
Rate my list.
>>48282680
Make sure to take some leadbelchers painted like the TF2 Heavy so you can say that you are pushing the cart when escorting the blasters.
>>48282680
I want to see the after-action report on this one
Sooooo... anyone played League of Rhordia?
>>48285912
Dunno. Anyone thin their paints?
>>48286957
Who has time for that?
>>48285912
I play it, yes.
It's like the KoM, with less options but more things that matter. Landsknetch are a must have (if only as fire magnet) and the Battle Altar is perfect to fold a line.
>>48287805
You can also just get units from KoM if you should require them. I kinda wish they would have their own flagellants, though.
>>48156387
Anybody here think that WP will actually be good? I was thinking about picking up some minis for it...
>>48291370
I would just wait and see. I think they want to please the 40k crowd and there is no fixing 40k because it was always a clusterfuck of a game.
>>48292164
Did you actually read the rules? It's so far from 40k that it's not even the same type of game. The new WP plays more like epic than 40k.
>>48293196
I know they made an additional rulebook for 40k like scales of battles. It's called Forefight and is supposed to be something in between Deadzone and Warpath.
>>48290532
>I kinda wish they would have their own flagellants, though.
You could play them as CS1 militia
>>48295472
True that I suppose.
Finally had my Deadzone starter set ship today. Turns out, there was some confusion about my paypal which resulted in them freezing my order.
Ghouls are the unsung heroes of the Undead list. 60 pts for a Sp 6 troop makes a fantastic bit of chaff, and At 10 me 4+ means that they are just strong enough that you can't ignore them if they get in a sneaky flank.
>>48293882
>Forefight
*Firefight
>>48295472
>>48296651
I guess I could give them a magic item to make them more reliable.
>>48303044
I'm using Revenant troops as mine, for thematic reasons mostly, but would totally use ghouls in a second in a 100% competitive list.
>>48304440
Steadfast maybe ?
>>48307487
Yeah, that sounds like a good fit.
Man it's a slow day
Kind of wish we had a /tgg/ board.
>>48310831
I'm pretty sure that's just reddit. These threads also slows to a crawl during weekends. I guess people are out playing games and stuff?
>>48312312
>I guess people are out playing games and stuff?
Don't rub it in
>>48312753
Maybe one day we will find other players, Anon?
Final bump. See you guys this monday I guess.
>>48310831
There simply isn't as much to talk about. The game doesn't have a jaw dropping setting to draw in discussion, and the gameplay itself doesn't warrant too much either because of how straightforward it is.
Any suggestions on what to use for dopplegangers?
>>48316246
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Armature
I like the idea of using a mix of these.
>>48317823
That's a sick idea, best I've seen
>>48317823
Clever idea
I've read Hellfire & Stone and it's not very outdated at all.
I've made a review for those interested.
https://youtu.be/0JncFnMV7Xk
>>48315771
I enjoy talking about the hobby aspect about KoW. But maybe we should instead just have a hobby general that is about ways people can make their own fluff, what minis to get and what would be a good conversion? I realise we already have the WIP general, but we don't have a brainstorm general.
>>48242339
Thanks anon. How big is that table? You've got the lines meeting from one side to the other with lots behind in reserve. That would probably be another to get stuck in the middle, you might not have had enough space to manouvre all those units.
Gee wizz a game of that size looks fun though.
wump
