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Circular logic when
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>>48149590
So what's the official nickname of this card?

Loosey Noosey?
Ropey Nopey?
Boop Noose?
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>>48149665
spider bear
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>>48149665
Snek
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>>48149665
Don't know about you guys, but Nope Rope has a nice ring to it.
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>>48149665
Loosey Noosey.
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>>48149665
New mongrel
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>>48149665
Ruse Noose.

Someone is going to run a full playset of him and win a standard pro tour. Mark my words.
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Dexter Textureless
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>>48149719
Nope Rope has my vote.
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>>48150431

Why is this so funny to me.
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>>48149719
I agree. Nope Rope has a nice ring to it.
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>>48149665
mongrels 5-8
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Is this going to make it into modern?
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>>48150971
Nah, Wild Mongrel is only good if there's actually good madness cards to go with it. Wotc balanced the ever loving fuck out of madness in innistrad.
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>>48149590
NECK SNEK
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>>48149719
The winner right here
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>>48150971
Certainly not as a madness enabler. Maybe in some dredge deck. And that is a big maybe.
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How good is this guy?
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>>48152139
Now I want to build snekenablingwolf.dec
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>>48149590
>Finally a discard engine
YES
YES
YES
NOW GIVE ME A ROOTWALLA
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>>48152139
If you're in Affinity, amazing. Otherwise so-so. Red will love him with shit that forces a full-hand discard.
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>latest spoiler is so uninteresting it hasn't been posted yet

Enchant Creature that gives +2/+2 and a green 2/2 wolf token for 4G
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>>48149590
Yay, something for my old ass UG madness deck that I can only play ironically now.
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>>48153108
this is a lot more interesting
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>>48153317
That's been spoiled since like noon.
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>>48153373
Well I just got home
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>>48153108
Wizards is going overboard with the furry pandering
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>>48153472
Aren't wolfkin a specific thing in Innistarid? Aka werewolves cured or those whom one parent was a werewolf?
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>>48153508
Wolfir are the cured ones
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>>48153472
Well knightly valor was good but this isn't as powerful so well see
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>>48153472
Not as fun as Raised by Wolves.
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>>48153472
>furry pandering
How is this furry pandering?
Why is everything in (current year) fucking pandering
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>>48150971
If we had Rotwalla or Arrogant Wurm maybe. It's not worth splashing red for Fiery Temper in a Bolt format and black madness cards are very weak.
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>>48153583
not as powerful on its own but it does produce a wolf which is a relevant type in limited.
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>>48153639
>being this much of a fish panderer

Don't fall for it.
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>>48153643
Reckless Wurm is in Modern.
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>>48153707
I'm just tired anon
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>>48153719
It's not worth splashing red.
Modern Madness would be mono-green aggro or bUG tempo, but it doesn't have a big beater that can threaten Goyf unless it weakens itself by splashing red and losing either blue or black which is shit.
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So who can read Moonrunes?
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>>48153920
>Nissa
oh fuck no
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>>48153920
"Stunning Growth"

3G

Sorcery

Return all land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
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>>48153920
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>>48153920
Considering the art it's probably something along the lines of "Each player can put Eldrazi card into play without paying its mana cost."
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>>48153959
LOOK OUT
FROG INCOMING
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>>48153995
>FROG INCOMING
What did he mean by this?
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>>48153959
The Gitrog motherfucker just got another present
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>>48153317
You know, even without its effect it would still be incredibly good with just flash flying. Maybe not Rare good, but still really useful.
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>>48153959
so is there some kind of scapeshift/amulet of awakening nonsense on the horizon?
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>>48153959
Gitgud EDH got another toy, fun.
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>>48153920
Nissa doing shit to Innistrad's land makes me madder than I remember being in a very long while.
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>>48153920
I swear to god if this is fucking Zendikar Resurgent: Innistrad Edition I am going to spam Maro's social media accounts with Jacetice league crap for years.
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>>48153472

Big question here is, is this a wprse version of raised by wolves OR a worse version of knigthly valor?
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>>48149590
>Circular logic when

Never.

Haven't you heard? Counterspells aren't fun to play against.

Getting stomped by aggro before you've even played your fourth land IS fun though. Apparently...
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>>48153959
tactical toadstrike inbound
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>>48154013
Gitgud.
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>>48152490
>Basking Rootwalla
MY
NIGGER
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>>48154969
>Control has dominated most formats for years
>First time aggro creatures has been powerful
>The tears of control players soon flood the world, killing off humanity
Well we had a nice run
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>>48152490
careful what you wish for, least it comes true
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>>48155081
>Control has dominated most formats for years

When was the last time control dominated Standard?
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>>48155127
Inn-RtR
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>>48155172
Source?

Control hasn't dominated Standard since Lorwyn - if you consider Faeries to be control - or Odyssey if not.
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>>48155127
>Most
Also cursory search sees control winning second in Dragons pro tour
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>>48155127
Zendikar -Scars block if mtg Top 8 is to be believed
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>>48155229
Winning second place is not the same as "dominating" anon.
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>>48155225
>didn't play in Sphinx's Revelation+Supreme Verdict: the format.
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>>48155225
Sphinx's rev was really dominant as the other poster pointed out.

And if you're going to consider Faeries as control, then Caw-Blade was control as well.
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>>48155298
You mean Voice of Resurgence: the format where aggro won again?

You people claiming that control is dominant these days are fucking delusional.

I played back when draw-go was in Standard. Most of you would probably cry if you had to face a control deck like that.
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>>48155272
>>48155127

You know the new fags when they don't remember the Supreme verdict, sphinx's Rev, aetherling format followed by the event worse mono black control standard, it was the most string of standard metas I have ever played through and I played through the affinity and caw blade standards, at least they didn't all go 2 hours past time every fucking round and have top 8s lasting until 5 in the morning

>b-b-but I want to show how much smarter than my opponent I am

Control had never been about intelligence, it just makes the control freaks feel good because they get to say no to 90% of what you do

Honestly don't care if you enjoy control but at least have the decency to have a good win con, like esper dragons
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>>48155081
>first time aggro creatures have been good
Affinity my dude.
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>>48155501
Control does require more thought than your typical aggro deck.

It's not as complex as say DDFT but it's far more complex than just tapping out and turning creatures sideways.
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>>48152139
Swamp, Dark Ritual, One with Nothing go.
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>>48155492
Voice was printed 2 sets after Sphinx rev and supreme verdict. In that 6 month gap control was king.
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>>48153952
>>48153991
>>48154346
>All this Nissa hate.
Urza said he'd bring an end to phyrexia, Nissa said she'd get rid of the eldrazi.
...Sure don't see any free eldrazi anywhere...
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>>48155546
Aggro has dominated Standard since the end of the Odyssey block.

It's been a conscious decision on the part of WotC to make aggro stronger and control weaker due to the complaints of parents of autistic aggro players who were in tears after being beaten by Psychatog or MBC.
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>>48155501
The be fair, mono-black devotion only dominated because Theros powered everything down to post-earthquake Haiti levels of garbage.
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>>48155560

No it really doesn't, it just takes longer to close out games, they're both equally brainless desu, some combo and most midrange delks require much more thought
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>>48155584
1) I dont like Elf
2) I dont like most neowalkers
3) Green is my 3rd or 4th favorite color at best
4) Nissa is fucking boring for a character
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>>48149590
>print a strictly better wild mongrel

God damn I remember Invasion/Odyssey standard. That was some good shit.
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>>48155560
It's far easier to make choices when your entire deck is at instant speed.
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>>48155604
Control requires you to make decisions - counter this threat or save my counter for something more dangerous

Aggro does not - hurr I cast my Rhino and swing for game :DDD

Pure aggro requires no strategy whatsoever. The only parts of a midrange deck that require some level of brain activity are the control elements (i.e. the removal).
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>>48155600

It had some of the most aggressively costed creatures in magic history like pulukranos, stormbreath, courser (no oracle of mul duya but still a damn good creature) not to mention one of the best mana dorks that's not birds in caryatid
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>>48155637
Many control cards are not instants. Supreme Verdict which has already been mentioned for example.

Also, having instants just gives you more choices, it doesn't necessarily make those choices easier to make.

I suggest you try playing control. You might learn something about it and about Magic in general.
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>>48155667
Have you ever played an aggro deck? Cause you sound like youve never played an aggro deck
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>>48155709
>>48155713
So we are in agreement, neither of you have really played each other's decks and should stop being elitist twats.
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>>48149665
>>48149590
Loose/y Nose/y
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>>48155667

It doesnt though, literally all you do is ask "is this going to kill me?" If yes counter it or kill it when it resolves, control is one of the least interactive ways to play magic and it's boring as shit to play against and the mirror matches are worse than paint drying
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>>48155713
I've played pretty much every kind of deck imaginable.

One of my first decks when I was getting into the game some 20 years ago was a mono red sligh deck. So yeah, I've played quite a few aggro decks over the years.
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>>48155687
And Kamigawa had some real gems like Jitte, top, gifts, and the command cycle. Regardless, standard powerlevel tanked hard during Kamigawa and Theros was Kamigawa 2.0
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>>48155569
>Swamp, Innocent Blood, go.
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>>48155749
>control is one of the least interactive ways to play magic

You don't know what interactive means in the context of Magic. Control is the most interactive archetype since you're constantly interacting with your opponent and his cards.

I'm starting to think you're just memeing me.
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>>48155709
I suggest you try playing magic for more than a year.

Also, pull your head out of your ass, it'll help you play better.
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>>48153959
Could this and some sort of dredge enable legacy lands and be playable ?
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>>48155751
Well I honestly don't know what to say other than you've either forgotten how to aggro or never did it right in the first place
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>>48155738

I play ANT, Painter and Temur delver in legacy, Jund in modern and w/g humans in standard, I literally play all deck types and let me tell you delver is fairly easy to play once you learn the legacy meta, miracles is even easier but I like having friends so I would never play it
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1WW
Sorcery
Escalate: Tap an untapped creature you control

*Destroy target creature with power 4 or greater

*Destroy target enchantment

*Put a +1/+1 counters on each creature target player controls
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>>48155667
Control is flowchart magic, aggro is algebraic magic, combo is probability magic, midrange is a bit of all.
None is easier or harder than the other if you're good at what the deck asks of you. Desicions on control are an ilussion, all questions are already answered on the deckbuilding stage.
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>>48155569
you forgot to cast the card!
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>>48155835
Ngger, Lands is already a deck and has been for a very long time.
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>>48155801

You opponents asking you whether or not they're allowed to do something is not interacting

>I cast this
>no you don't

That's not an interaction

>I attack with my creature
>I block then use a combat trick
>I use my own combat trick

That's an interaction, even if it boils down to the same end, both players feel like they did something, which is important not only to the health of the game but also to insure both players have fun, which I'm sure you forgot was the ultimate goal of this game
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>>48155890
WotC really doesn't want us to play anything but white.
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>>48155938
I meant if this could improve it somehow.
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>>48155890
yo this seem like some fucking sauce bro A+
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>>48155890
>Escalate: Tap an untapped creature you control
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>>48155956

I can think of almost no situations where this card would be better than a loam, the deck has few flex slots and there are way to many cards that are much better

Maybe after a cataclysm but idk how you'd cast it
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Didn't see a spoilers thread so I'll post here.

Hypothetical scenario:
You have a demonic pact with 3 modes used up and are dead on board. You cast fortune's favor in your main phase and your opponent splits harmless offering face-up and 3 face-down, they have 1 card in hand. Assuming you know there is a 3 card combination in your deck that wins this turn and that your opponent has some kind of answer to the pact in their deck, do you take the harmless offering? Infinite mana on both sides if it matters.
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>>48156115
*...some kind of instant-speed answer to the pact...

Also, let's say your opponent is in the wrong colors for a counter spell.
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>>48149590
Can't wait to cast Newrakul while my opponent has this on the board. Knew there were going to be a bunch of free sac and discard outlets that'll be punished by the Mindslaver effect.
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>>48155890
>Lets just make GW tokens even more disgusting
Thanks WotC
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>>48156115
Or what if they were at 1 and you have burn in your deck. Assume they boarded in 4 naturalize or some other instant-speed enchantment hate but all their anti-burn cards are gone.
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>>48156115
I take the harmless offering. Face-down cards are all lands. You cant ruse me!
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>>48156115
Take the offering. Its pretty unlikely that those 3 cards are your combo, even if the opponent has an answer.
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>>48155051
>>48152490
UGMadness.dec was the tits. A T2 competitive deck you could own and pilot to great effect all for $30 or under.
... until Judgement released.

>>48153317
SPICY
I
C
Y
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>>48153964
She looks like Tayor Swift
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>>48156353
Fair enough, now what about the 1 card win variation?
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>>48156115
Oh shit, this set is looking sexy af. I don't want to get back into magic but cards like this make me weak ;____;
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>>48155667
Aggro decks require more decision making than control, precisely because they lack answers and top deck manipulation.
They must play around counters, try to bait their opponents into leaving themselves vulnerable.
Just because aggro decks have a linear gameplan doesn't mean they are simple to play. Control decks also have a very linear plan:
>answer threats
>deploy win condition
>protect win condition

Calling aggro decks brainless is very misinformed.
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>>48156660
>Play aggro
>Start drooling on my sleeves
>Slip slap my cards sideways. Damage face.
>Draw, paly, slip slap. durrr. win maybe.

>Play Control
>Draw, plan, scheme, get head massage from unknown women
>Carefully dissect my opponent hand. Counter his threat, render is permanent powerless.
>Meanwhile participate on stock exchange with my phone.
>Win .
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>>48156703
I see you completely ignored my post and decided to shitpost.
Here's your (You).
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>>48156260
If their answer to Demonic Pact is Naturalize then Offering still saves me from killing myself, and I can deal 1 later. No reason to be greedy.
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>>48156738
The hypothetical scenario has you dead on board.
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>>48156703
>play combo
>win. Period.

Fags
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>>48156730
I was not him, just tried to be funny.
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>>48156749
Then it's a matter of if they're in a position to kill me next turn or not.

If I die regardless of if pact is on my side, banking on burn might be the safer option. If they're similarly out of resources, then throwing the pact their way to prevent a loss and maybe win is better, since you can just keep topdecking for one damage.
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>>48149590
I for one welcome the nope rope to this upcoming standard season.
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>>48156749
>You have a demonic pact with 3 modes used up and are dead on board.

That certainly sounds like you're dead because of Demonic Pact, so forcing them to Naturalize it in response to a Harmless Offering is an out.

If they also have lethal damage in creatures on the board and you need to win on their upkeep that's different, but the Offering is still probably the right play. The odds are that you're being rused.
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>>48156703
>get head massage from unknown women
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>>48156797
>>48156806
Fair enough, most people I presented the hypothetical to chose the harmless offering. I put myself at maybe 30% taking the pile of 3 face-downs, but I'm more of a gambling man by nature. Just a thought experiment.
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>>48156839
Ironic how that's an aggro card.
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>>48155625
I mean it doesn't have the colour changing effect but that isn't usually relevant anyways. Plus this can't be used in pauper.
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>>48156893
>pauper
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>>48155922
All part of the plan.
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>>48156904
>money
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>>48156920
I think I've invested around 10k in magic over the years. At this point I ain't laughing.
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>>48156927
And that's where pauper comes in. For the low price of $30 you too can have a tier 1 pauper deck. Be the talk of the town with your sweet cards and show off unique mechanics deemed too slow for competitive legacy. The world is your oyster and commons are the pearls. Try it today.
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>>48155758
>standard powerlevel tanked hard during Kamigawa and Theros was Kamigawa 2.0
I don't get it, if you play the decks from mirrodin/kamigawa vs onslaught/mirrodin or odyssey/onslaught they do fine ignoring affinity. Same goes for theros and the standards before and after theros in my experience, moreover, the weakest standard decks are imo from odyssey onslaught and I don't even think that that is slightly close. How does the powerlevel tank when the decks don't get worse?
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>>48149665
wild snek
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>>48156968
Rosy retrospection.
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>>48153604
and also worse version of knightly valor
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>>48156438
It's similar to the loot question, the only significant difference being your opponents knowledge. I think the logic still follows though, unless the shown card is exactly your best available, you go for the 3.
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>>48153959
Fuck green.
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>>48155940
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Countering a spell is interacting with your opponent.

A non interactive deck would be a deck that just focuses on a win condition and ignores everything the opponenent does.

Learn the definition of terms before you use them. It might help you avoid looking like a retard in the future.
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Sigarda's Blessing
W
Enchantment
You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash.

Whenever an Equipment enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach it to target creature you control.
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>>48155830
I've played Magic for longer than you've been able to walk.

>>48155897
If you think that aggro requires the same degree of skill and strategy as control then you're just bad at the game. Then again, this is /tg/ so it's not really surprising.

>>48155940
Like I said: you don't know what interaction means.

>>48156660
An aggro decks decisions are always going to be the same. Tap out and cast a big creature and proceed to beat face. Control has to adapt to what the opponent is doing.
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>>48157097
That card's image could be a communist propaganda piece
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>>48157133
It's just based on the Creation of Adam.
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For fuck's sake can we start putting emn or mtg in the op post so that they're searchable in the catalog
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>>48157097
This is literally the whitest card they have made in a while, and is the best t1 if your t2 is sfm
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>>48157133
>>48157145
Though wait yeah, the female angel and the hammer really does invoke strong soviet imagery.
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>>48157097
Now all they need to do is reprint Ogre's Cleaver
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>>48157097
RW Weapons Trainer just got an amazing new toy
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>>48157097

Sigarda is totally pranking that guy.
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>>48157311
Well when the world's ending and your family is dead you gotta get laughs somehow
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>>48150971
Lotleth Troll.
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>>48157311
>take this and run at Emrakul
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>>48156968
Whenever someone complains about standard power level dropping, you can safely assume that they're really saying "my preferred color/style of deck was weaker than in the previous standard."
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>>48157108
You don't know how to play at least 25% of magic and that is why you're so salty you keep losing to aggro despite how superior your control mastermind thinking is.
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>>48156115
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>>48155890
So what will the blue and green escalate rare costs be?

I'm thinking "exile a sorcery or instant card in your graveyard" for blue and "discard a land" for green
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>>48156359
Why till judgment?
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>>48157097
My dick
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>>48157145
I think they missed an opportunity to make the worst possible fantasy homage to that work of art. They should have attempted to make a complete abomination.

Sigarda should be handing the guy a ridiculously large Warcraft-esque weapon. And the guy should be a vampire - or worse, a werewolf - because that would make no sense. And it should be surrounded by the bodies of tentacle monsters.

That's just me. I figure if you're going to wantonly jack from classical art you either make it symbolically appropriate or outright retarded. This just feels (typically) half assed and pandering to those whose appreciation of artistic depth is pretty shallow.

I don't meant to imply I have any real fucking taste either. But I'd rather feel that you should go big/stupid or not even bother.
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>>48157097

>Yo human, it is me, Sigarda, don't give up hope or whatever, also here have this hammer I found
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>>48153317
>>48153920
>>48156115
>>48157097

shit is getting real
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>>48157494
>an aggro baddie telling me I don't know how to play

m8 i will wreck u
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>>48151405
Bump
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>>48157097
this will be banned in legacy
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>>48156413
Given the rich tradition of tracing planeswalkers I wouldn't be surprised
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>>48157097

Am I the only one disappointed that this doesn't mention fortifications?
Even just to to tease us or to be a very specific way if blanking single land destruction spells.
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>>48155897
>Control is flowchart magic, aggro is algebraic magic
I agree
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>>48151383
>WotC made sure madness was so bad no one would use it in Innistrad
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>>48157156
Wasting your turn 1 on this when you can just cast Mom, aether vial, thoughtsieze, top, deathrite, etc instead.

It's like you enjoy losing games.
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>>48157634
Probably not.

Not to be cruel but I think it's ridiculous that people obsess over singular Future Sight cards like that. Like Steamflogger Boss.

As much as I liked Time Spiral block they printed a bunch of useless fucking Rares in that block using the excuse of "experimentation" when in reality they were printing complete hot garbage in the Rare slot that amounted to what was essentially vanilla creatures or significantly worse than mere vanilla creatures.

I understand that in every Magic player's deckbuilding career they just want to force a card that appears to everyone to be trash. But that feeling should go away when you've failed to win any games when your Jellyfish tribal deck doesn't pan out.

I've been there. We've all been there.

This card is shit and isn't worth a card in any deck.
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>>48157097
>Instant speed Argentum Armor
>Instant speed swords
>Instant speed bestow creatures

I never knew that I wanted this.
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>>48157410
Only works with creatures, plus is in two colors.
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>>48157586
>I said 'scalpel'!
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>>48157713
>Instant speed bestow creatures
>I never knew that I wanted this.

But anon the best bestow creature that was played in standard had Flash
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>>48157742
Well, yes. Maybe it would make the other ones playable, I dunno.
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>>48157753
Well anything is playable on the kitchen table
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>>48157753
The card itself does nothing. In a losing board state or in parity it doesn't get you back into the game and transition you into a winning board state.

It saves you some mana maybe and gives your sorcery-speed spells Flash, which make them tricks but you should be packing Instant tricks anyways that are already Instants.

And that's the criteria here and everywhere, "Is it worth a card". And it's not.
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>>48153964
god fucking damn it
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>>48157794
Dude, it's half a Stoneforge for one mana less. It's not going to break modern but it will definitively see play. The only problem it's that it doesn't have a home right now, except maybe bogles or some cheerios jank.
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>>48157601
If you knew how to play you wouldn't be so assfevastated of losing that you need to reply to bait for 8+ hours.
All because an aggro weenie kicked you out of that top 8.
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>>48157850
It is not half of a stoneforge. Stoneforge tutors and cheats it into play. This just gives it flash and lets you equip it for free.

Equiping shit is not the hard part finding the equipment and resolving it are.
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>>48157850
>half a Stoneforge
wut
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>>48157850
Stoneforge is two cards. The Stoneforge and the Equipment. This card isn't a card. It's like a really shitty ritual.

Remember, Equipment fucking sucks, even the best equipment: Swords, Jitte, and Batterskull are more or less useless without bodies and Batterskull itself is just a body.

Stoneforge means you can redundantly toolbox for whatever equipment you need without having to play any more than one piece of that equipment, because equipment (and auras) are garbage cards.

If this card tutored for an equipment then I would be down to imagine some applications. However, it doesn't.

Any any deck (even a casual one) where you would pack it full of equipment and auras I would not play Sigarda's Blessing ever. Nearly any creature would be better than this card. A 1 mana vanilla 1/1 would be better.
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>>48157677
>Implying this isn't righ
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>>48157965
>Poker
You mean solitaire right?
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>>48157984
Poker is mostly reading and then jerking off
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>>48157965
What's fun is how simple that flowchart actually is once you know what the fuck you're doing.
Exactly like control in a solved metagame.
Magic is a very easy game 13 year olds can play to it's full potential, there's nothing intellectually amazing about knowing how to bluff a combo, count to 20 or saying "no".
Stop stroking your microdicks and post more spoilers.
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>>48158015
But the thing is, you don't just cast a counterspell because you can.
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>>48158015
That is why true men gas the format and invade top 8
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>>48153472
On every level except physical blabla
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Reminder that green has dominated standard ever since Return to Ravnica rotated.
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>>48157965
Non-Modern/Legacy player here. Why is Dredge consistently compared to National Socialism every time it's brought up?
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>>48158044
Golgari Grave Troll was banned in Modern from the outset owing to how Wizards believed the card was too degenerate for the format. 6 months ago they unbanned it. I don't think it's made the top 8 of an event since then.
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>>48158026
Shut up. Nobody cares.
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>>48158044
Because MaRo is a jew and absolutely hates dredge despite creating the mechanic.
Just like post-WW jews and natsoc.
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>>48158044
Much like hitler, dredge dindu
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>>48158044
MaRo's extended family was murdered by a Legacy Dredge player. Needless to say, MaRo was distraught and took his anger out on dredge itself.
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>>48157624
i actually like Nissa less now
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>>48153317
>be in counterspell war
>flash him in removing their shit
>cloudshift/ any blink
>remove one of your own counterspells on re enter
counterspell on hand when ever he leaves
I mean this is EDHshenans but hey interactions are cool
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>>48153317
The spell effect still goes through even when the spell is removed from the stack, right? Or am I thinking activated abilities?
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>>48158358
Only "on cast" effects go through
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>>48158358
If a spell or ability is removed from the stack, then it never resolves because it doesn't exist anymore.
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>>48157097
BECAUSE BATTERSKULL WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH
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>>48155890
>"Black is supposed to get the best removal"
>Print this
Why does WotC lie to us, anons?
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>>48158526
because the last time that happened it made every removal spell bar swords and path period irrelevant
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>>48157097
Just another example of /tg/ is bad at magic. This is nothing but hot garbage and will never see play in any format that really matters like legacy.
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>>48157156
Yeah great I'll equip my Batterskull to this fucking germ token.
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Mausoleum Wanderer
U
Creature - Spirit
Flying

Whenever a Spirit enters the battlefield under your control, Mausoleum Wanderer gets +1/+1 until the end of turn.

Sacrifice Mausoleum Wanderer: Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless its controller pays X, where X is Mausoleum Wanderer's power.
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>>48158586
Being able to instantly swing with a Fire and Ice and draw is hugely relevant.
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Anyone else has this feeling like most of this set is rare/mythic and most of those are trash?
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>>48158106
How the fuck is that possible

How have you had a shred of liking to lose
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>>48158671
Oh boy this is fucking amazing

Judge's Familiar was already great, this gets a lot better with Rattlechains giving spirits flash and whatnot
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>>48158731
Why give spirits +1/+1 until end of turn when you could play Merfolk and give them +1/+1 forever?
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>>48158673
>>48158673
A w mana enchant do NOTHING is worse
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>>48158750
standard reasons
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>>48158768
Yeah this is way better than Judge's Familiar in standard then.
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>>48158671
>print a better version of another competitive tribal deck, now for spirits
>print a pretty baller counterspell on a stick at 3 mana
>still no fringe modern playability

C'mon wotc, just give us some sort of 2 drop lord.
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>>48158671
I'm getting 4 of these bad boys ASAP.
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>>48158795
they will literally never do that
Blue isn't suppoused to have that good of creatures
Though then again, knowing wizards... It IS blue
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>>48158671
This plus favorable winds, the spirit lord and midnight haunting seem good together

Also Rattlechains, Geist of st traft, aether vial and path to exile seem to be making the modern spirits deck more of a thing now
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>>48158795
She isn't exactly a lord, but she basically reads "All your creatures enter the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter" and is a Spirit.

There's also the Drogskol Captain + Phantasmal Image combo.
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>>48149590
Just to confirm, this would let you cast non flash / instant madness cards at instant speed ecause its an instant speed discard effect yes?
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>>48158863
Ya.
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>>48158750
See, Modern Spirits is a completely different deck than Merfolk. Merfolk is pure aggro and while Spirits is also fairly aggressive it has lots of control elements and tools that make it play in a very unique way.
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>>48158671
>>48153317
Get your playsets of Rattlechains now guys
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>>48158914
I got them months ago because I knew this would happen.
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>>48158671
>>48153317
My dick.

I knew this will happen I got all the fucking spirits and Anafenzas.

And I already preordered that UW counter-spirit.

This is fucking sweet.
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>>48158576
When was that? Legit don't know.
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>>48158671

Why are people saying this is good?

It only gets +1+1, and the ability is usually going to be useless. USELESS.
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>>48158767
Indeed, a card that does nothing is usually worse than a card that does SOMETHING, specially in this case .
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>>48155897
this guy gets it
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>>48159034
Yeah this SURE will be useless in the same way that prowess did nothing.
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>>48157097
I learned the hard way a long time ago that cards with no direct positive effect on the board state are useless.
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>>48159034

Its a one drop that is relevant through out the game.
It has evasion, it naturally becomes bigger, it answers most direct answers.
With rattlechaibs this get extra stupid, can be used as unstant speed counter spell, can flash in other spirits to make it win combat OR to make it a better counterspell.

This is a ridiculous one drop, all dem options.
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>>48159069

You could say that it discounts any equipment in your hand, and then it gets better.
Not saying it'll see play, but it might.
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>>48159007
Dismember
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>>48158914

Okay I just bought a playset of rattlechains, I hope this time /tg/ was not bad at magic.
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>>48155127
Time Control was never a particularly good card in Standard.
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>>48159118
It's good with the curses, maybe, and Eldrazi Conscription for making a round really turn around.
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>>48155890
>Stop playing Standard because of the Selesnyapocalypse
>But hey
>At least Dromoka's Command will rotate out Soon...ish
>See this

Whelp. Guess G/W Tokens is just going to be a deck until Gideon and Nissa rotate.
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lol I just realized Sigarda' Blessing gives Wolfenstein flash.
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>>48159206
Jesus, nearly forgot that card existed. I feel stupid now.
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>all this spirit tribal
Calling it now, Kamigawa after Kaladesh
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>>48157922
All that it takes is one card to break this even if it hasn't been printed yet. It has powerful synergy potential, wouldn't hurt to keep a playset while it's a dollar rare
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>>48155501
I remember seeing a match where both players spent over 15 turns playing lands and sculpting hands to have nothing but counterspells and a single Ojutai. Neither one could try to stick the threat before they had 15 lands out because they'd be 5 mana behind in the counter war. The game went to time all 3 rounds with one round ending with both players at 20.
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>>48159390
It doesn't, wolfenstein isn't equipment.
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Loosey Noosey says that she likes you
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This could be interesting with Sigarda.
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>>48152139
mite b gud with a lot of fight cards and discards
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>>48153959
>start saccing/discarding lands once you've got ~6 on-field
>play this
>mfw all dem landfall effects
>mfw retreat to kazandu x2 on the field
boundless shenanigans soon fellow stalker
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>>48157530
Send only sorceries from your library to your graveyard :^)
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>>48157530
a Nissa and a Jace card, so who knows.
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Wait.
Why is the Jacetice league on Innistrad?
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