/EMN/ Eldritch Moon Spoilers general
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>>48127349
>Limited trash
>b-but i like to play with bad cards on purpose
Thanks, limited faggots
>>48127349
>2 drop
>see it's common
>oh boy! let's see what pauper gets to-
>just a vanilla bear
god damn it
Red gets bears?
>>48127349
Is a 2 drop 2/2 with nothing really revolutionary enough to be an OP?
Log into your Tumblr account or make one to demand an explanation from MaRo for this red bear heresy.
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/ask
>>48127447
Its just as shitty as every other card this set. Though this one breaks color pie.
>>48127349
RB vamps is never gonna happen, is it?
I love me some tasty dragons. The art is beautiful too.
>>48127349
>Red finally gets a bear
>relevant tribe
It's ok.
With any luck we'll get a card for Anje too, who if WotC is feeling generous is a solid, fun RB legend. Werewolves don't need their noses rubbed in it any further though.
>>48127447
It is for red. Every 1R 2/2 red creature has had a drawback.
>zombie tribal might be gud again
How many Relentless dead should I buy??
>>48127549
>Werewolves don't need their noses rubbed in it any further though.
Don't remind me. Wizards had one job and that was to make a playable Werewolf commander for EDH, and they totally fucked that up. Completely.
>>48127568
None. Don't buy any. Zombies will never be a thing.
Leave the prices low and let poor casuals like me play.
>>48127612
instructions unclear, bought out tcg player
>>48127568
>and you lose 1 life.
>not "you draw a card and lose 1 life.."
>>48127491
Sounds cool
>>48127584
>all that was needed was a RG legendary Avabruck or Immerwolf
>there's two top alphas on Innistrad
>one's entire shtick is being an Immerwolf
>we got the other guy
>>48127658
you fucking monster
>>48127491
>opponent running RG
>has one out
>opponent casts giant growth
>targets this on your side
Does it copy twice, or just once?
this set is t r a s h
might even be worse than DTK at this rate.
>>48127724
It didn't even need to be a immerwolf, a werewolf that forced other werewolves to transform would have been perfect.
>>48127762
what the hell are you on. there are a bunch of playables across different formats
>>48127756
The trigger is "On Cast".
Copies of spells aren't cast per se, so only 1 copy will be created from him targeting your dragon instead of his own (which would have been better for not having buffed one of your creatures and ended with the same p/t on his side.)
>>48127756
It says cast, so copies don't trigger it.
>>48127837
>there are a bunch of playables across different formats
yeah and Legends had Tabernacle, Mana Drain, Sylvan Library... you saying Legends is a good set?
>>48127843
That's why I was asking. Wanted to see if that could be a viable strategy if two were out. Though targeting an opponent's tapped one and buffing it is a semi-deterrent to putting down.
>Red bear with no drawbacks and relevant creature type
Wow WotC what is this fucking power creep garbage
>>48127491
>opponent drops mirrorwing
>cast expedite
>>48127349
I love that a vanilla common can do more damage to the entire foundation of Magic than all the rares and mythics from the same set combined.
>>48127969
Can't wait to see the damage control
>>48127568
OH GOD WHY IS MY COCK SO MASSIVELY ENGORGED JESUS CHRIST I THINK I'M HAVING A STROKE SOOOOO GOooodOODOODDD
Red seems to have some good cards this set. Shame it seems to have gotten so few cards compared to the other colors so far.
>>48127969
>>48127991
I remember how phanny flustered I was over Giant Spider not being printed in M13 but this this is like a whole 'nother level.
>>48127568
>CAUSE THIS IS THRILLEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Holy shit monoB zombies could finally get good
WHITE AND BLACK DUAL CARD WHEN?
>>48128072
and no one's going to save you from the beast about to strike!
>>48127724
I would have liked a Werewolf that let you choose not to transform your non-human werewolves when itself was a werewolf that way some cards like Duskwatch Recruiter or Huntmaster you have the advantage of both sides, but all of the vanilla beaters that are just smaller vanilla beaters on their human side stay more useful.
I'd also probably have the human side pump Human Werewolves up a tiny bit just so they are a bit more of a threat and harder to kill if you can't get them transformed yet.
That's what I would have wanted in a Werewolf legendary.
>>48127765
Hell, he could even be alright with a few tweaks. It seems like the basic idea was:
>Werewolf side: splashy removal effect
>Human side: something to benefit your werewolves while they're offline
It's just that each of those needed to be more splashy and interesting than "fight" and "pump spell".
>>48127491
Sure it's any player. But did we really need this again so soon?
Pseudo Divining Top strapped onto a bear that gets bigger.
>>48128180
why the fuck is this mythic, besides being a cash grab?
>>48128111
Please be the missing Angel sister.
>>48128204
No reason at all, anon.
WHERE'S THE RARE LAND CYCLE REEEEEEEE
>>48128072
Black needs more 1-drops before they can do anything relevant this set, all their good stuff is 2 drops and higher.
GB would probably be good to help ramp them out though
>>48128204
Possible 4/4 with Trample for 2CMC. Plus it can provide deck manipulation.
![tumblr_o9uv4as3hr1qjqvxao1_250[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/C0cyKEh.png "tumblr_o9uv4as3hr1qjqvxao1_250[1].png")
>>48128284
Hahahaha.
>>48128271
But there are other cards at rare that are better/can provide more manipulation, what makes this one a mythic?
>>48127469
madness RB vamps kinda work
>>48128284
What the balls? What is even going on with the designs of this set?
>>48128284
Well this will create some funny board states.
>>48128296
Mythic has been bullshit since it was introduced in Alara. It shouldn't exist.
Haven't played in a while. Was considering going to a prerelease for this set, would be my first one. Beyond pencil and paper for life count what else is proper etiquette for an event? I don't have tokens or sleeves, so double sided cards might be an issue.
>>48128284
>Spirit
>in green
>not ooze or at least fungus
Flavor fail.
>>48128296
its too powerful for a rare in limited
>>48128349
>Haven't played in a while
>Was considering going to a prerelease for this set, would be my first one
>>48128349
get sleeves, seriously
You'll be thankful if you open a money rare and it makes shuffling properly a lot easier
>>48128284
This has the potential to be hilarious. I like it.
>>48128284
Yes. I need more copies. All must become sludge.
>>48128168
Mirrorwing is amazing because the copies target creatures the casting player controls.
Say you have mirrorwing out, and the opponent casts a targeted removal spell at it - it'll reflect and target their creatures if they have any.
>>48128353
Imagine that eating black hole white face from Spirited Away.
That's the type of spirit it is.
>>48128284
>Combat damage
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>48128349
You can probably buy sleeves for cheap at the place you'll be playing.
Dices work just fine for counters. Preferably six sided, they are harder to tumble than, say, d10. Or little glass beads like these.
>>48128204
to trigger whiners :^)
>>48128380
Used to play when I was younger. Got rid of all of my stuff. No lands, nothing.
Is it just me or does this card suck?
>>48128284
So if this deals damage to something with 1 toughness does the copy effect trigger before the game checks if the creatures toughness is 0 or does it still die?
>>48128301
Up until turn 4, when you lose the fucking game.
>>48128284
Now if only there's rancor in this set.
>>48128451
+1 its really anti white/blue.
>>48128455
State based action, damage doesn't use the stack.
>>48128455
it dies
>>48128451
seems ok in a casual setting.
Or in zombie anons dank zombie brew.
>>48128375
Your odds of opening it in limited are still pretty small, add to the fact that you need to be in those two colors in order to run it and that sounds like bullshit.
>>48128284
>green
They will give us this card and say "see? we support spirits tribal!"
>>48128455
Damage is instant.
>>48128494
The white spirit you can sac to give your dudes indestructible is pretty sweet, especially with rattlechains.
>>48128451
It's not you.
>>48128455
The 1 toughness creature dies.
State-based actions will send the 1 toughness creature to the graveyard immediately for having lethal damage before Permeating Mass's ability even goes on the stack.
>>48128451
its literally black jace.
>-2/-1
>get something from your graveyard
>slow but lethal wincon
>>48128451
I don't think its the worst, but its not very good.
>>48128564
>jace and liliana were partners once
F L A V O R
This is fun
>>48128284
>this fucking card
I'm sorry if I'm mean sometimes, WotC
>>48128284
Bant Spirits?
>>48128626
>Tree
>Trisk
>Tap tree before your next upkeep
>Win
Bueno
>>48128284
I just realized that the copies keep the "become a copy of this card" ability. That's hilarious.
>>48127491
>Inktreader Nephilim effect on a powerful mono-colored body
Neat!
>>48128626
That's actually a really neat card outside of that combo. You can easily use it to keep your own life up, and I could see it being downright mean if you could reliably drop its toughness by 10 or so.
>>48128314
It's the thing from John Carpenter's The Thing.
I think the set is just going for "Horror".
>>48128451
Total shit. +1 is worse than a 1 mana ability. -2 is worse than a 1 mana ability. Ult is literally Endless Ranks of the Dead.
Into the trash it goes.
>>48128427
>Dices
>s
You do know 'dice' already is plural (of 'die'), yes?
>>48127491
Can't Doom Blade it without risking every non-black thing you have.
>>48128871
itss 25$ out of stock in stores D:
>>48128284
1-toughness creatures dealt damage by this die to state based effects before they become 1/3, right?
>>48128875
Huh yeah sorry. I'm not a native speaker, sometimes it's hard to remember exceptions.
>>48128916
This was already answered
Yes they die
>>48128924
Well, time to burn you at the stake or something I guess.
>>48128284
>>48128626
Put in Tragic Slip and a sac outlet and you got a modern deck (tier 3 maybe?)
>>48128284
Do we have any first strike combat tricks in standard?
>>48128897
Likely because everyone remembers how poorly reviewed baby Jace was before origins release and is trying to get in on the potential spike.
>>48128284
In all of Magic, there has been three 1/3 creatures for one mana and they all had severe drawbacks. Before this thing.
>>48128997
You have to design your deck so that your own creatures don't get Permeating Massed.
>>48128968
Kindled fury, sure strike, uncaged fury.
>>48129038
Maybe you play G/B and use new Liliana. Give their copy versions -2/-1 so they can't deal combat damage and make your other creatures copies.
If a creature becomes a copy of permeating mass it is still not a token right? So all you really need is a couple of always watching and your board becomes languish proof when everything is a mass.
>>48128997
>>48129038
Or you just use only fliers besides it. Bant spirits here we go,
>>48129108
Yeah. Flyers, or 1/2 creatures with good ETB effects that won't mind getting transformed. As long as they can't block you, you can block them all day with your own mass.
>>48128284
Amazing.
>>48128284
Literally Green Goo. I like it.
>>48128711
this isnt evasive or protective plus aggressive tempo decks already lose to themselves often enough without making their mana dodgy as fuck
>>48128284
I just realized, rattlechains to flash this in as a blocker would be hilarious.
>>48128284
Where's the assault formation shitbrew?
>>48128284
wew maro
>>48129038
>not playing a control deck that turns everything into permeating masses
>not playing Dampening Pulse
>>48129299
That's my next deck. All fliers and 3x dampening pulse, 4x fuck your board state.
>>48129555
Don't forget always watching to pump your masses, oh look we ended up back in bant.
>>48127491
Two of these out on opposite sides of the board.
>...I'm bored.
>...Me too.
>...Wanna play a game?
>...What game though?
>I know! Let's play catch the H Bomb!
>Whee!
>Worldfire Everywhere.
>>48128451
it is average, may see play if it happens to fit well into a deck or if it counters another deck well enough
>>48129631
I haven't thought of that flash in years.
>>48128284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw4WAhyi1uY
>>48128451
I try to be positive about new cards and understanding about the format they are intended for. But this one really feels mediocre. While the abbilities are lack luster, it's more a flavor fail for me than anything. This planeswalker doesn't say, "I'm your last hope to defeat Emrakul." LotV would have been mechanically PERFECT for this set. She would have been perfect last set too. I guess they're saving her for supplemental products.
I like how Wizards is being inclusive of my fetish.
>>48127411
>trusting wizards to balance anything other than limited
hope you enjoy playing one of three viable decks
>>48128284
This is so weird I'm in love with it
>>48128353
There are plenty of spirits in green
>>48127765
I have wonderful news.
>>48130063
Not in Innistrad, though, Innistrad spirits have always been WU
>>48127762
For godsakes keep spreading this meme and keep all the good cards cheap.
>>48127491
Neat, might have to make room in my scion deck.
>>48127491
My dragon deck has a new friend, sweeet
>>48128959
>Tragic Slip
???
>>48130086
Howlgeist, Strangleroot Geist, and Wildwood Geist
>>48127568
I get that it doesn't name the token, but that really feels like it should be a Spellshaper.
>>48127568
I'm so making zombie tribal idgaf.
>>48130296
>relentless is $12 and rising
yeah nah, too expensive for a petdeck.
>a new skeleton
Yay!
>BG
Fuck. It's effect is kinda neat I guess as a way of getting around chump blockers, but overall I'm not a fan.
I wish we got some not shit skeletons for once.
At least zombie tribal looks wicked sick.
>>48128455
>before the game checks if the creatures toughness is 0
This isn't how it works. Damage doesn't change a creature's toughness. Lethal damage is just when damage equals or exceeds toughness. This is why -0/-1 is different from 1 damage.
>>48130317
I already own a play set. I also have nothing but pet decks.
>>48130396
Fuck.
>>48128959
Doesn't work that way. Tragic Slip kills the tree before you can exchange life totals. Although I don't know what the sac outlet is for so maybe I'm misunderstanding.
>>48128284
>1/3
>it can't kill itself
>>48129108
Or you run 4x Declaration in Stone mainboard to wipe their field once everything is a Permeating Mass.
>>48130443
This is beautiful.
>>48128284
I didn't even have to check to know Maro spoiled this one.
>>48127957
God damnnit I thought I was done with this pain.
I just want firestorm again. Is that so wrong?
>>48130491
That' a great idea, actually.
I could see it.
>>48130459
If it could the ability would just be deathtouch that kill indestructible.
>>48127957
>Opponent drops Mirrorwing
>Drop Slip through Space on it
>>48128284
>not an ooze or at least a spirit ooze or ooze spirit
WTF even the name totally sounds like an ooze. Fucking flavor fail.
Still the card itself is really cute. I like it.
>>48127469
>Playing the worst colors
Why do you do this to yourself? R&D both hate the shit out of red, and if Torment hand't happened black would be the worst color.
>>48127568
Kaladesh may not have Zombies, and if it doesn't, we're fucked as much as Goblins were this season.
>>48130885
>Torment gave us Dark Ritual, Yawgmoth's Will and Necropotence
The more you know.
>>48130946
RIP in peace Piledriver, may you become modern relevant some day
>>48130597
Wonder if this ooze will see competetive play at all. A 1/3 for G is god Tier mana curve.
>>48131048
Shuts down aggro and makes a top tier chumper against fatties
>>48130597
Time for some shitbrews, boys!
CREATURES
4x Permeating Mass
3x Topplegeist
4x Rattlechains
4x Selfless Soul
3x Bygone Bishop
2x Archangel Avacyn
SPELLS
4x Declaration in Stone
4x Collected Company
4x Always Watching
3x Eerie Interlude
2x Ojutai's Command
LANDS
4x Evolving Wilds
2x Fortified Village
2x Port Town
3x Canopy Vista
3x Prairie Stream
6x Plains
2x Forest
1x Island
>>48131035
So 8whack didn't take off at all? Lame.
>>48130400
>Damage doesn't change a creature's toughness.
I once saw two guys playing like you could kill an indestructible creature by dealing it damages then lowering its toughness for the remaining amount.
So one of them did whatever damages to Keranos then casting Grasp of Darkness on it, and both thought he was death.
I still don't understand how they reached that conclusion.
>>48128284
Everyone quick! Let's guess the price of this amazing creature that almost makes up for that not-even-draft-tier legendary spider.
>>48128456
Yeah, as a vamp player, iy saddens me when my deck does crumble like this
>>48130445
Ir does work that way, the ability will check the last known value for the tree before it left the battlefield.
>>48131460
It does not work that way. Exchanges have additional rules.
>>48131460
Not for exchange.
>>48131460
It's an exchange ad that is not how exchanges work. Learn to Gilded Drake.
>>48128959
>t3
Hell no.
>>48130961
Try playing black in Legacy without Cabal Ritual, Ichorid and Putrid Imp, paiper without Chainer's Edict or Commander without Cabal Coffers.
You know, cards that aren't banned or members of the Ancestral Recall cycle.
>>48131535
>Commander without Cabal Coffers
pretty easy, actually
>>48128837
>You can easily use it to keep your own life up
I hope you just mean by being a tough blocker.
>>48130227
Are you legitimately retarded or just pretending?
>>48131675
Why would he be either, those are all green spirits from OG Innistrad block
To be briefly off-topic, where does this rank among Humans?
>>48131559
I feel like coffers isn't so much the problem as is everyone's initial reflex to dump all that mana in an exsanguinate effect
>>48130508
Really, anon? Is it REALLY beautiful, or are you high on something perhaps? It's 3 mana for a skeleton, hardly setting any records.
>>48128284
How would this card work with cards that make creatures fight each other? Is that still considered combat damage?
>>48131845
naw combat damage is exclusive to attackers/blockers
>>48130530
Wrong as usual, anon
>>48131824
Well it end games, what do you expect?
But then I'm highly biased since my main edh is a Xiahou Dun stax.
>>48129631
Ziggy boogy doog
>>48131909
oh well, still a fun card to troll with.
>>48131935
Coffers is great for black and if it's your win-con, cool. I'm in the process of dialing down the power of my B/W enchantments deck: taking out both debt to the debtless and exsanguinate for more flavorful choices.
I can see some people not liking it b/c it gets repetitive: tap coffers for big Fuck You X spell. My goal is to steer that mana towards some other, flashy effects.
>>48131842
The creature type and the art, I really like. So nice. I want more of it.
>>48132035
You should have a great amount of choice for B/W, a lot of possibility in the big enchantment/flashy spell department. Good luck
>>48130443
Doesn't have regenerate, it's not a skeleton to me.
What is up with the recent R&D recent fetish for "couple" cards?
Tibour and Lamia at least had nice flavor with their mechanics.
Are we going to get one of these for nearly every block for now on?
>>48127568
Mfw I bought two playsets of relentless dead for $20 each two weeks ago
>>48131535
>Try playing black in Legacy without Cabal Ritual, Ichorid and Putrid Imp
I assume you mean mono black because otherwise there are plenty of strong deck that play black without running those cards, like BUG variants, Grixis Delver, Reanimator, and so on.
Although, considering you mentioned Dredge cards (which isn't exactly mono black), it's seems more plausible that you just don't know what you're talking about.
>>48132171
>not posting the superior Theros couple
>>48132215
Ehhh. It looks powerful, but the mana cost makes sure I can get a play set for $6. So I like it.
>>48132171
>Mina & Denn
>Couple
Got anything to tell us, anon?
>>48132324
More like $4 for playset a week after release.
>>48132340
Exactly. $4 for the play set, $2 for total shipping cost. TCG player has all mythics at a mandatory $2 for some reason.
>>48132333
>"couple"
Would pairs/parings be preferable?
>>48132171
>tibor and lumia had nice flavor with their mechanics
translation: they are the shittiest one, hence the one you like the most
>>48132215
>it's a 7 mana value enchantment with no form of protection
mite b cool if it countered the 1st spell
this would be a really fun effect on a 3-4 mana instant or sorcery that triggered once
>>48132397
They are shit but the art and mechanics with flavor fits perfectly.
The rest have no flavor with their mechancis at all.
I like Mina and Denn as a card the most out of the bunch.
>>48132419
Works on Isochron Sceptre, might be fun in kitchen table/EDH enviorment.
>>48128837
RTFC
>>48132446
i was expressly disagreeing with you
you're simply wrong
tibor and lumia have retarded flavor
"when our planeswalker friend casts spells, it activates our jetpacks and then we burn everybody on the ground alive!!"
wow such flavor, amazing
anax and cymede on the other hand make perfect sense, when their planeswalker friend blesses them with supernatural strength, they galvanize their soldiers to fight to victory
>>48132565
>"when our planeswalker friend casts spells, it activates our jetpacks and then we burn everybody on the ground alive!!"
Not that guy but that's perfectly in line with the Izzet flavor.
>>48129805
>1440x2008
What the fuck are you doing?
>>48131431
I like the spider okay. It's decent against CoCo efficiency creatures and pre-flip Avacyns as a blocker and it has a late-game use considering how common flickers are right now. It's a lot of ETB action for some decks, and it's not impossible to imagine a board state in stall games where you're going to be able to keep your mana up, pop your spiders at end step, untap, swing, and ping for lethal.
>>48132666
>I like the spider okay
Of course you do, Satan.
>>48132171
Couple cards are actually kinda fun.I'd like a couple card cycle with Ravnica guilds. Wedges, shards, or 4-color, idc
>>48132803
Would you REALLY like Ravnica couples though? Just this of Azov, nothing but couples with a stick up their ass.
>>48132565
Calm down your autism. T&L are two different wizards and represent different halves of the card and it is shown on the art.
Whereas the other couples have nothing signifying that on their cards mechanically or in regards to art.
>>48127584
It's a workable Alpha strike commander, especially with the in-built +4/+4 on entry or flip meaning you can start from an 8/8 or 10/10.
Crashing this game with no survivors.
>>48132941
So how good do you think Morrorwing Dragon's foil will look.
>>48132967
The bottom is really dark which doesn't bode well and in my opinion red has the worst modern border however current foils look fantastic and those wings will look gorgeous so 8/10.
>>48132890
It wont be a 10/10 unless you are able to flip him the turn he comes in or flip him twice in one turn.
>set doesn't have a lot of things I want
>except for Thalia and Tamiyo
>gonna spend $120 on 3 Thalia's and 3 Tamiyos anyway
Fuck.
>>48127491
Anyway of doing something near as effective as this in standard?
>>48133246
>effective
In what sense is that effective at all?
>>48133246
...Is that a combo? Rakdos Charm doesn't target Mirrorwing Dragon, and if you used other effects to make that possible it'd just nuke your artifact creatures.
>>48130592
I feel you bro. You're one of the only ones that says firestorm, and I fully agree.
>>48133246
How many creatures are you planning on giving to your opponent for this to make sense?
>>48133342
He's trying to Harmless Offer everything he has and blast Rakdos Charm on their face.
>>48133246
So let me get this straight. You're donating a 4/5 flyer to your opponent so that Rakdos Charm can deal one more damage to him?
>>48133313
Effective is probably the wrong word, but if you have enough on the board you could cause an insta-kill using this combo. I feel like there's a way we can exploit this handover of all creatures in standard, but we just need the right card.
>>48133342
Kinda - the idea is that you have enough board so that rakdos charm becomes a kill on handover, which in a token heavier deck could work. Your opponent is likely to have done some of the legwork already since they'll be building their kind of board.
>>48133357
Oh! Duh, why didn't I realize that would happen. I am a fool.
>>48133357
>>48133400
Did both of you read the goddamn words on Mirrorwing Dragon? Or are those just some uncomprehensible scribblies to you?
>>48133400
If you have a large enough board presence to win using that, you probably have enough to win without giving all your creatures away and outright lose yourself the game.
>>48133399
No, you're donating your entire board to them so Charm can deal however many creatures you had at the time more damage.
>>48133429
Did you? Because I'm sure Harmless Offering gets copied for each creature you have.
>>48133438
Just imagine their face when they get all smug about having a Fog in hand, then suddenly you completely reverse their expectations.
>>48133464
Harmless Offering have two targets
Jesus fuck, these goddamn idiots.
>>48133464
You make a copy based on amount of creatures you could target ON YOUR SIDE of the field.
>>48133486
>>48133464
>>48133440
>>48133407
Dumbasses Mirrorwing doesn't copy Donate.
Retards can't read. Mirror wing works like this.
Player A controls mirror wing.
Player B casts exile on it.
Player B just exiled mirror wing and his OWN creatures because he's a retard who can't read.
>>48133542
Shit, you're right.
>>48133429
>whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only ~, that player copies that spell for each other creature he or she controls
>that player
>he or she controls
You cast it, your side gets it. They cast it, their side gets it.
>>48133246
Maze of Ith, Forbidden Orchard & Argothian Elder already make better engine for Rakdos Charm.
The way to exploit the Dragon is to get Illusion of Grandeur, somehow turning it into Creature, hitting it with kicked Rites of Replication, hitting the Dragon with kicked Rites of Replication and THEN Offering them all.
>>48133565
>that targets only
So if you Immolating Glare an attacking mirrorwing, your creatures wouldn't be destroyed too, right? Because they're not attacking?
>>48133246
so wait. youre going to put ~20 creatures on your board.. and then use 2 other spells to kill your opponent? why not just use the creatures?
>>48133611
>>48133565
>Harmless Offering is worded as such:
TARGET [opponent] gains control of TARGET [permenant]
>Mirrorwind Dragon is worded as such:
When a [player] TARGETS ONLY [Mirrorwing] [player] make copies
>>48133622
Nope, because there's no target. You don't have attacking creatures.
>>48133622
Correct, although the real reason is because since their are no valid targets on your side of the field, the spell isn't copied at all.
>>48131811
Absolute shit.
>>48133246
>targets only Mirrorwing Dragon
>target opponent
>target permanent
Path to exile reprint when?
>>48133869
Never ever. Enjoy your 10+ dollar uncommon :^)
>>48128451
"Up to one target" does this imply zero is a valid number of targets to choose?
Can you +1 this on an empty board by choosing 0?
>>48133969
yes you can.
>>48133969
Yes, that's exactly why.
It's so you can +1 with no creatures, or only your creatures out.
>>48133969
No because that's disgusting.
>>48133969
Yes. Many planeswalker loyalty abilities are this way so that you can add loyalty to them even if the board is empty.
>>48133969
Yes you can. Every walker that can +1 can +1 on empty board.
>>48133969
>>48133986
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>>48134006
4/5 experts agree.
>>48133653
If that is indeed how that works, that's kinda stupid.
>>48134212
If that wasn't how it worked the ruling would be impossible to keep unambiguous.
Art book is out. Any anonbros spot any new card art? Pic related: it ain't my book
>>48134020
>experts
