Infinity is a 28mm scale skirmish game in black ops agents are taught sword and board.
>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php
>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/
>Rules wiki:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page
>New Official Army Builder:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/
>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/
>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/
>N3 Reverse Index Web App (a bit outdated as of HSN3 but still a bit viable to look at)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/
>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc
>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ
>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf
>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446
>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8
>The Economically Questionable RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game
>The Actual Faction Poll
http://strawpoll.me/5146634
>Scans (More Needed):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6nel34mw0la3bb/Infinity+1st+edition+Rulebook.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wd3pbtpjp5w9dig/Infinity+-+Corvus+Belli+S.L.L.+-+Human+Sphere.pdf
>Character Creation
http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/
previous thread here
>>48057281
>>48106468
>in which black ops agents are taught sword and broad.
Can I preorder the unknown ranger through my lgs? Shipping to the US is ridiculous. 33usd for a single mini is hard to justify.
>>48106572
Don't know to be honest possibly?
>>48106572
That is pretty absurd.
>>48106572
>Americans have to pay an excessive amount for an American mini
FREEDOM
>>48106572
ARE YOU NOT FREE ENOUGH FOR FREEDOM MINI? EVEN WHEN YOU CAN GET IT FOR FREE?
Can anyone else not access the infinity forums?
The question is, what's the regular Unknown Ranger going to look like?
>>48107222
> trip gettting trips
the regular unit will probably have the shield strapped to his back
>>48106572
Last year my LGS could get the limited edition model through distribution.
>>48107222
Hopefully equally badass.
Also, MM is absolutely stunning. Was not planning on replacing my current one, but damn.
Fucking Spaniards.
>>48107222
In the BOW video it is mentioned that in this version he is "actually holding the shield to protect himself". So they might have it at his side or on his back in the general release.
Last year when they did Van Zant did they show what the standard version was going to look like before Gen Con?
>>48106468
Ariadnians only have access to exosuits on a few units in fluff. Rest of the sphere have them as a matter of course must be frustrating being a bunch of savages compared to the rest of the sphere. .
>>48107406
I'm pretty sure blackjacks are the only true exosuit.
The rest of their HI is just training plus teseum.
>>48107406
They've done alright. In the meantime, they do work, with units that don't need the fancy stuff, and there's always the Nomads and Haqq to make a call if there's something high tech they need in a hurry.
If there was a conventional war, they might well be fucked, but at the present state of conflict, that tech base isn't the limitation it might otherwise have been. And I bet their average soldiers can go blow for blow with anyone in the Sphere.
>>48107273
Ah, that's a shame, but it looks good either way. Maybe we'll even get lucky and the shield will be a seperate piece.
>>48107447
Yeah, that's a good point. Easy access to space!Mithril changes the equation a bit when it comes to protection.
I suspect the primary reason that they don't get 2 W HI is because the higher tech stuff has better medical systems and servomotors. Getting shot in the bicep isn't as big a deal if you're swimming in painkillers and coagulants, and the muscles in the suit keep the arm basically functional one way or another.
A Question.
What kind of Specialist Troops do you need and how many of them? Especially for the scenarios because i dont want to buy two of each just to be able to play.
just played a few games and couldnt find a answer to that.
sorry for my english and fiday butt in return for any answer (i play haqqislam obviously)
>>48107500
Depends massively on the mission. For some, you'll want at least two of each. For others, you'll only need one or two specialists in total.
>>48107500
The value of a given specialist varies with their mobility, survivability, and fighting strength.
Strong specialists can take the place of a number of weak ones.
I'd rather have one Moran Masai or SAS than two Alguiciles with FO.
I'd say have 2 good ones, and 2 backups. By good, I mean tough, agile, or very killy. Infiltrating camo types are great for this sort of work, because they start the game where they need to be, are hard to kill without some effort, and aren't bad at clearing their space if they have to.
Thanks
I need hi res version of the Red Veil cover art now.
According to Bostria, the Haqqislam forces transport the massive Ahl Fassed into the civilian orbital station by hiding him in a port-a-potty and having him burst out once the fight begins!
>>48108818
I assume you made that up, but that would be pretty hilarious if it was true.
>>48107590
Great answer.
>>48108944
It is true.
From Bostria's own mouth.
Also,
>>48109054
Wow, that's awesome.
>>48109147
Damn, hope Minutemen get riot shields too, it looks awesome.
Is the new ninja the sexiest model CB have produced? In terms of actual sex appeal, not sexy as in just looking baller.
>>48109604
That would be Isobel
>>48109687
That's a funny way to spell Chimera.
>>48110063
That's a funny way to spell Dragon Lady
>>48109604
That's highly subjective. She's pretty damn hot, though. I'd let her handle my DA CCW.
>>48110083
That's a funny way to spell Hassassin Fiday.
>>48110382
That's a funny way to spell Uxia McNeill.
>>48110391
That's a funny way to spell Anathematic.
>>48110439
That's a... Wait, what?
>>48110439
Found the sepsitor'd cube.
>>48110063
+1 for rabid furry degenerates and their viral ccw
>>48107500
Haqq is in a pretty damn good place specialist wise.
For a further breakdown of what >>48107558
says, missions where you need to push a lot of buttons is where you want a larger amount of specialists. Missions where you have multiple classifieds, especially when they are worth 2 or more a piece is where you want a wide assortment. Some missions, such as Annihilation and quadrant control, you don't need any specialists at all. Also, you choose your lists after you know the mission and classifieds are drawn.
Haq is uniquely blessed with a plethora of doctors, all with decent WIP. You've got them even on TO infiltrators and multiple HI. Doctors are naturally nice to have if you can revive an important piece and/or with minimal order expenditure.
Engineers are more limited in choice, either the generic one or the Kaplan. That said the Kaplan is an amazing profile. You'll probably want to bring the one with ADHL if you can't pick up D-charges elswhere. Good if you want to repair stuff with structure such as Remotes or the TAG.
Hackers are, similarly to doctors, quite numerous and on a variety of profiles. You'll have to decide on your tactical needs as to which device you want to choose. Assault hacking devices are found on your infiltrators and AD troops. Their main function is to immobilize, isolate, spotlight, and possess hacking vulnerable troops (spotlight can be used on everyone).
Hacking devices are all round devices that are generally found troops that start in deployment. They can do a bit of everthing, spotlighting, immobilizing, possessing, in addition to buffing HI/remotes and packing anti hacker programs.
Killer hacking devices are designed to kill other hackers to the exclusion of everything else. If there are no enemy hackers, it's not much better than specialist operative, with the exception of cybermask. You'll find it as a cheaper option on Barids, Druze, and Govads.
>>48111423
(cont)
EVO hacking device is only on the EVO remote. It's more for buffing remotes and influencing hacking than anything else so generally you'll bring it along only if you have multiple remotes or hackers already.
Barids kind of stand out because they have access to all of the above hacking devices while packing BTS for not much more than the Gulam equivalent. They also pack pitchers which are repeaters that you can shoot at a spot, to extend your reach.
Also, keep in mind you need hackers, EVO, or TAGs to bring remotes.
FOs are probably the cheapest and most numerous specialists. If you are skimping on points and don't need any specific specialists, these are generally the guys you take. They are particularly useful on your infiltrators and line troops, though the Rafiq deserves mention as an excellent toolbox unit. Remember FO get flash pulse which is an excellent ARO piece with good range and a devastating effect.
And finally is specialist operative whose sole function is to allow you to push buttons. Thankfully the only one that has it is the Ayyar and it's on all his profiles. A holo projecting HI with options for surprise shot level 2 and dual viral pistols for under 40 pts? Sign me up.
If you can shoot a smoke grenade as an ARO, does it have to block LoF to the thing that generated the ARO?
I'm asking in case my friend wants to try to shoot smoke grenades to block troops that didn't generate AROs.
>>48111879
and is there a limit to how many smoke templates can be on the field?
>>48111932
No, but you don't usually have a reason to have more than 2.
>>48111879
As long as they aren't doing any sweet 180 throws and throwing it normally yes they can throw/shoot it where they want. It will however make the active model's roll unopposed if it doesn't block LoS to them.
>>48112132
Thanks again. I know i've been asking about smoke grenades a lot, but I have a friend who just got the Army Ranger pack and he's been trying to cheese with smoke a shit ton.
GROUP 1 10
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
IMPERIAL AGENT Lieutenant (Sensor, X Visor) MULTI Rifle, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 52)
HAC TAO HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 68)
CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
TIGER SOLDIER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
GROUP 21
HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
4.5 SWC | 295 Points
Trying to make a remote-heavy list with the new ISS starter that I've got on it's way. How's this look? I know the Hac Tao is a large chunk of points, but man I love 'em. I'm contemplating swapping either the Tiger or the Husong for a Zhanying with ML; the Tiger's probably the better choice, but dat model...
>>48112196
All your specialists are shitty, that might be a concern. You're also lacking anti-armour options. Some kind of assault hacker could solve both problems.
3 remotes isn't really remote heavy. Real men have at least double that.
When will CB show some interest for the Frenchies again?
>>48112769
They are probably delayed until the USA is done and then after the Russian sectorial is released.
>>48112769
After Kazaks, which means not for a long time.
>>48112769
I want to lick Natalie Dormer's filthy asshole.
>>48112460
It's remote heavy for how many remote models I own.
Pretty much all YJ specialists are that shitty.
>>48113380
Not really. You've got Weibing, Tiger Soldiers, Aragoto, infiltrators and most HI. Even Zuyong FOs are pretty good, the ability to not die like a bitch when some fuckhead crits you across the board with a rifle is invaluable in a specialist.
>>48112460
GROUP 1 10
CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
SON-BAE Yaókòng Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
GROUP 25
HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
ZHANSHI Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 54)
5 SWC | 293 Points
That enough remotes for you?
>>48112171
It's all good don't sweat it. Infinity is a complex game and even people who have been playing a long time can forget or overlook some of the rules!
>>48112196
Points 300 SWC 5
Group 1|10
Celestial Guard Lt (13|0)
Imperial Agent CoC w BS (29|0)
Imperial Agent X-Visor w Spit (54|2)
Lu Duan Mk12 (21|0)
Pangguling Hacker EVO (25|0.5)
Tokusetsu Kohei Engineer (14|0)
Kanren Minelayer (27|0)
Guilang FO (27|0)
Zhanying ML (28|1.5)
Pangguling Baggage Mine (8|0)
Group 2 | 2
Tiger Soldier Paramedic (29|0)
Huson Yaokong (25|1)
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Could try something like this. Uses a decent amount of remotes, practically the entire ISS starter minus two Celestial Guards, is not proxy heavy, and has solid specialists. I know it doesn't have the Hac Tao, but he is really hard to fit in along with a Crane Rank Agent.
>>48113592
It is craziness and silliness to have a 5 order group with your best model in it. Swap SuJian for an 8pt bot. And make those paramedics vanilla Zhanshi Lt decoys unless you want every Fiday/AD badass/ninja/light grenade launcher aimed your way.
That done, you probably need to add an upfield specialist. Karakuri would fit the theme but require list reworking.
>>48113839
Seriously. I've been playing for 7 years and still forget stuff.
Man I love this female Tiger Soldier
>>48115135
>puss
>>48115135
That's a serious amount of animates camel toe. They couldn't draw the rest of the zipper?
>>48110439
Thats a funny way to spell Marut-Chan
>>48115135
She is quite intriguing.
>>48115135
MFW this song popped into my head the instant I saw that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvyt0PwMX_g
>>48107396
>Last year when they did Van Zant did they show what the standard version was going to look like before Gen Con?
Not officially, but there was a picture of the normal version in the US Ariadna booklet that came in their Army box, and it was visible during a Beasts of War video, so we did find out.
So, this "Ramen Task Force" that Carlos mentions in the newest video.
Do we think that's just an alternate name for the Caliphate sectorial or is it a 4th sectorial replacing the Khanate?
There seems to be a lot of overlap with the Caliphate for it to be a new one.
>>48116165
Like Top Ramen?
Could you link which vid please?
>>48116179
I doubt it's actually Ramen, but my ears are convinced that's what he's saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSiFP5iPzmY
>>48116225
Thanks!
>>48108678
Not Hi Res, but I tried.
>>48116753
Slightly adjusted in Irfanview.
>>48116753
Until CB releases it themselves on their website, that's good enough.
Time to retire the Paradiso wallpaper.
>>48116928
I'm right there with you. It's definitely a piece of art that I would want HiRes too.
>>48116928
Yep, swapping out my last infinity wallpaper for this too!
With HSN3 adding a bunch of ALEPH stuff to SAA, I'm considering a splash into Pan-o from ALEPH. How playable does this look?
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>>48117581
My only real suggestion would be consider the KHD naga, I reckon the fact it keeps mines unlike the AHD is invaluable, of course, you do lose out on the ability to hit TAGs and HI with it.
>>48117581
Not gonna lie, I keep seeing a Hassassin Bahram list when I post it.
>>48118615
>Not gonna lie, I keep seeing a Hassassin Bahram list when I post it.
Yeah there's some bug with the browser based import/export function right now, every army code gets you that same HB list.
If you import it on the android app it works.
Might also work on desktop version, don't know.
>>48118942
Desktop version definitely worked. Good suggestion. I like where your head is at.
>>48117581
I have to ask why so many Paramedics? There is kind of a lack of long range weapons. The Bagh Mari MSR would be good. It also has Minelayer for some backroom protection. How would you feel about the LRL Montesa? That seems like a good budget profile. Noticed the lack of Akali...
Drakios Free Agent ability is kind of useless since he is not in another group, but that's kind of moot. It's just something nice to have.
>>48119449
>Drakios Free Agent ability is kind of useless since he is not in another group
Not the guy who posted the list, I think the point is that if there's no MSV that Drakios needs to hunt in turn 1 you can flip him over and bring Teucer in to do work on Camo/ODD etc targets.
I think it's a good idea, Free Agent really shines when you have two of them fulfilling different roles to give you that little extra versatility on turn 1.
>>48107273
If I can reasonably convert one to Captain America with that shield, I'm starting USAriadna.
>>48116849
Why both female line infantry look really confused/surprised.
Yo bitch It's a fire fight. Get shooting or something. They are just looking all like "omg wtf is going on"
>>48119973
>Firefight
That's a JoJo pose off for propaganda purposes.
>>48109604
Yes
>>48116753
I love the Khawarij in the background since the shadows over his eyes make it look like he's just wearing sunglasses like a fucking boss.
>>48120107
Now I want to convert him to wear sunglasses.
I'm splitting Red Veil with a friend as our intro to Infinity, me Haqq, him Yu Jing.
I have a ton of free time this August so I was hoping to get a jump start on painting a few Haqq models before Red Veil's September release. I've been making my way through the rules but don't have a solid grasp of which units are good/necessary yet.
What are some models/model packs that would complement the Red Veil Haqq starter force well? Assume vanilla Haqq for now. Perhaps the support pack?
On a related note, any recommendations for primers that work well with these models?
>>48120687
It largely depends on what models you like and what forces (sectorials) interest you.
Right out of the box, if going the Caliphate route... I would grab a box of Naffatuns, the REMs, and Maggie.
If going Vanilla, I would grab Hunzaqt, Ghazi, Djanbazan, and maybe the Sisters/Kameel depending on your playstyle.
I just realised something.
When the space Russians get their sectorial, there is a high possibility that there is gonna be 200+point link teams. Think about it:
VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 47)
VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
VETERAN KAZAK Boarding Shotgun / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35)
VETERAN KAZAK Paramedic (MediKit) AP Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)
1 SWC | 197 Points
Found these. Whadya think?
http://www.platoonbritannica.com/index.php?threads/nguyen-s-entries.1930/#post-31314
>>48121645
Yeah, a bunch of other factions already have that and most others will soon. It's breaking new ground for Ariadna though, they've previously only had a couple of units that could reasonably hit 150.
>>48121707
Another view
>>48121729
Still, I'd be shitting myself if I was staring down the barrel of a BS16 B4 T2 rifle
>>48121645
mines!
>>48120687
What you need is to kill both armour, camo, and grouped targets plus a choice of objective grabbers for mission games.
What you have is three grunts who can do anything not very well, breaker rifle dude and the heavy for kicking face, Khawarij for objectives and a sniper who might be better fielded as a doc/hacker.
Ideally you'd add anti camo and another objective grabber. The former could be Djanbazan/Govad or a swarm unit like Mutts. The latter gives you loads of choice, with popular favourites being Hunzakuut, Ragik, Asawira and the still unreleased Ayyar.
>>48109147
>>48106468
There *really* should be rules for shields. The model is aces, but its rules are too bland.
I get that you can't give fucking USAriadna Nanoscreens, but some form of special rule wouldn't be too much to ask for.
>>48122858
For once CB opts for a simple option already i the rules (ARM 4) and not a few pages worth of new rules and exceptions like with every new Tohaa release, and you complain?
>>48122938
Grunts are ARM3 already, so having a massive shield grant +1ARM is boring as shit.
How about +3ARM only from the front? That's concise and to the point while also being slightly engaging at least.
>>48122990
>+3ARM
Meant to type +2ARM.
>>48122938
I'm glad they simplified nanoscreen to just always having partial cover. So much simpler.
>>48122990
This guy isn't a Grunt, he's LI. He'd probably be ARM1 without the shield.
Having a shielded unit be vulnerable to flanking is a cool enough concept, but making a special rule for just one character is a bit wasteful unless it's a game changer like Inspiring Leadership.
>>48122938
Shields would be pretty simple, I feel. And just imagine what you could do with those.
>knights with sword&board
>naval boarding specialists
>SWAT-like breaching units
>new Gecko box (Heavy Shotgun/Shield+Combi)
>>48122858
It's +3arm and mimetism, pretty much always half cover
>>48123095
>knights with sword&board
Nah, swords and guns are retarded enough combination.
>naval boarding specialists
Don't feel like they need those
>SWAT-like breaching units
That sounds like civilian police stuff
>new Gecko box (Heavy Shotgun/Shield+Combi)
lolno. Two Geckos are more than enough and while TAG with HS is something I'd personally like to see someday (2 HS +x-visor, to be exact), I'd rather see new TAGs, like Blue Wolves.
>>48123371
>2 HS +x-visor
While I love x visor shotguns as much as the next guy, that would probably be a bit excessive. Twin HSGs on a TAG would be badass, though.
>>48106468
So Tigers are in the Invincible Sectorial interesting
>>48123371
>That sounds like civilian police stuff
Well, that would be in line with Bakunin then. A lot of their force consists of police, ironically enough. Even the infamous Uberfallkommando is an undercover cop unit.
Speaking of, I'd really love to find a mini that could be easily converted to look like the tiger girl from this strip to use as an alternate Chimera. Not that I don't like the vixen, but a cat is fine too.
>>48123404
It seems likely. They were originally going to be in White Banner, but the recent dossier showed them as being Invincible Army troops. Maybe CB decided to keep the Daofei out and this is compensation for not having any infiltrators.
>>48123371
Considering Tags rarely get the really big guns in doubles, I doubt a twin-HS is in the books, ever. Regular HS or dual BS, on the other hand...
Also:
>not liking sword+shield knights
You poor soul.
>mfw took delivery of pretty much all the new YJ stuff today
>mfw forgot to order resin bases to match the rest of my army
why even go on living
>>48123444
Sword and shield are fine in fantasy, but I think Sword + shield on HI would be pretty hard to balance + it wouldn't make much sense. You already have Magisters, have fun with those.
>>48123467
>not making your bases from scratch
You're missing out of the fun, senpai. It's like buying your models painted by someone else.
>>48123444
Considering heavy shotties are the same price as combi rifles and one point of damage away from a boarding shotgun, I'd hardly call them really big guns.
>>48123477
I do this for my Ariadna, but I wanted a really futuristic style for my YJ. Went for the MAS urban ones waaaay back when they first came out; if I didn't have so many minis on them I'd swap out for something different...
>>48123443
I'm still making a bet that ninjas are going to be in the invincible sectorial.
>>48123511
Why? CB doesn't have a history of putting units in sectorials that can't be justified in the fluff.
>>48123371
>Nah, swords and guns are retarded enough combination.
Who made you the fun police? Are you kanluwen?
>Don't feel like they need those
Knights of Santiago? Sound familiar?
>That sounds like civilian police stuff
There is plenty of law enforcement in the game already
>lolno. Two Geckos are more than enough and while TAG with HS is something I'd personally like to see someday (2 HS +x-visor, to be exact), I'd rather see new TAGs, like Blue Wolves.
Why not on a gecko? They're perfect for it
Or even better, on the kazak tag
>>48106468
>Really like the shieldmang.
>Gen Con Exclusive.
>Getting Shieldmang will cost his weight in gold bullion with the added shipping from the forbidden jungles of Bongislavia.
>Going by VZ the alternate pose won't be holding the shield and I won't be able to get muh shieldmang.
JUST
>>48123581
I'm willing to bet alternate will just have the gun in the back changed for a molotok, no big deal
Either way I'm probably gonna saunter my way over to gencon for shieldmang, and that way I'll pick up musashi for my homeboy
>>48123621
I live in vancouver, so it's near but there's no way it'd be worth going.
Buy one for me too, obvious solution.
>>48123095
>Shields would be pretty simple, I feel.
An arm buff is basically all you can do without further bloating infinity's special rules.
They COULD act as mobile cover for the forward facing, at the cost of being able to only use sidearms, OR they could just stick them on random heavily armored models because it looks cool without complicating shit.
What is the range of hacking? Is it always hacking zone + hacking zone of repeaters, does ir depend on program, are some LoF?
I've just started playing and I can't work it out.
>>48123762
It's always the hacker's zone of control plus that of any repeaters. This applies for all programs.
>>48123581
>Bongislavia
nope
>>48123467
Okay, the CR aiming Celestial Guard? very badly done. The parts simply don't align, at all.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/07/infinity-developer-interview-with-carlos-bostria.html
Vedic ALEPH confirmed for next book.
>>48123790
That's what I thought, some of the wording confused me. Thanks.
>>48123726
You got it senpai
>>48123957
It's been years since a Vedic unit has come out :(
>>48123957
vedic's been """""""confirmed""""""" several times before
>>48123539
And a lol-random ninja in a blatantly obvious Monodominant-level Inquisition angry mob is justified how exactly?
>>48124647
Ninja being in IS is totally justified. Meow stop that.
>>48124647
It's not an angry mob, it's a totalitarian police force. What kind of evil cops would they be if they didn't have a secret assassin to take down people savvy enough to avoid the blatant uniformed guys? Even the Kanren can only sneak so hard, ninjas are so sneaky they don't even publicly exist.
>>48124647
What're you on about? There's no Ninja in ISS.
Shame the ninja is still the worse TO infiltrator dude compared to *every* other TO infiltrator in the game.
>>48124892
Stupid dumb beaner SCUM
>>48124892
How so? I don't use TO infiltrators so they all blend together for me.
>>48124739
Ninjas? There is no such thing
Why do you all keep talking about ninjas? You're crazy
>>48125172
Exactly my point.
>>48125011
The ninjas lose mines for the more expensive CC crap which are very situational at best. And having to rely on shitty tac bows for ranged attacks just to cut down on costs isn't helping.
>>48125172
Ninjas are everywhere! They hide in the shadows, waiting for you to insult those slant-eyed Yu Jing fu-hrk!
...I apologise for my poor lapse of language. Ninjas do not exist. Yu Jing will bask in glory.
>>48123957
Bostria confirms Vedic ALEPH before literally every release.
Do we even have a date on this one?
>>48125321
>cc tax
It's still fucking real
>>48125321
TO CC specialists can be really important with the prevalence of supressive fire.
And Tac Bow Ninja is a cheap specialist, if you are using it as a gunslinger something has gone terribly wrong.
>>48123754
Nanoscreen in front arc?
>>48120687
Vanilla Haqq I would grab the Ghazi, Naffatun and Janissary boxes. All useful.
>>48123581
Just order it direct from Spain.
Isn't Europe like 3 sq miles?
>>48125011
They're built for CC and it shows. Subpar stats compared to most other TO dudes, no mines, no FO profile and they're still more expensive than spektrs. They excel at stabbing people and they don't have too much trouble getting to stabbing range, but when it comes to anything else the other factions' TO infiltrators either do it better or do it cheaper.
So how can the ninja be fixed?
>>48125556
You dont, the ninja is a CC infiltrator, if you want him to do something else, you need another unit.
>>48125556
Make it cheaper or improve WIP, BTS and PH to cement it in the hack and shank role. Maybe D-charges as well, ninjas do sabotage work so it would even be fluffy.
>>48125517
Europe's bigger than the US, despite the obese American stereotype.
>>48125589
Screw you cb
>>48125693
>bigger than the US
If you include Siberia and kebab maybe
>>48125601
Ninjas are great choices already (I play JSA and Vanilla YJ) so if you are improving them, you will have to up their cost.
I get them in combat every 2-3 games, and they do objective work almost every game.
If my opponent puts a Tag or HI in supression, the Ninja is the best way to deal with it.
>>48125517
Yeah, just drive by CB HQ and pick it up on your way to the market.
>>48126160
Nope. 10,180,000 km2 for Europe, 9,833,517 km2 for the US.
ISS Starter built, worst model without a doubt was the aiming CG. In this day and age you'd think they could get a wrist and shoulder to line up correctly to support a weapon...
>>48126317
You including UK?
They don't count anymore.
>>48126298
Not necessarily. The inter-faction cost of infiltrators is pretty janky and we don't know how the CC shit's cost is calculated. It might be a Zerat situation where they cost several more points than they should for no reason.
D-charges alone would be dope as fuck, and those things are free. Speaking as someone who plays both CA and YJ, ninjas really miss out by not having mines, something with similar utility like D-charges could greatly benefit the unit.
>>48126512
Europe technically encompasses parts of Russia and other nations that stretch down towards the middle east.
Because of national boundaries some of those countries are not normally considered part of Europe. You could probably go as far to say some of the far eastern former Soviet bloc nations aren't really "Europe" either. However, they do all fall within the Continental boundary.
>>48126512
Yes we do, we're still part of Europe. We're also still part of the EU, so suck it.
>>48126519
Mines and D-Charges would be nice.
What I am saying is Ninjas are a solid choice as they currently are.
Zhanshi confirmed for cute.
>>48126973
Thank goodness for the lack of stubble.
Also,as cool as that LGL looks, who the hell ever actually uses LGL?
>>48127108
It's much better now that spec fire no longer breaks the team
>>48127262
Thanks, but that doesn't answer my question.
Better doesn't necessarily mean good enough to use. So who has actually run a LGL, and has had good things to say about the experience?
>>48127108
On line troops? Nobody. They're terrible spec shot platforms.
>>48127304
Grenade launchers are the best Kebab removers.
I used to take HGL or infiltrating/AD LGL, but now that they get the link bonus I would totally take them in a line trooper link.
If you are having problem with 20+ order lists in your meta, bring Grenade Launchers.
There whould never be enough places to hide 12+ models in a DZ without bunching them.
If it is camo spam, Sniffer bots plus grenade launchers. You only need to discover one to put the template down.
>>48126973
I love those weapon designs too.
![starship-troopers-reboot-could-be-a-television-show-smile-you-re-in-a-war-389793[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O80lyAw.jpg "starship-troopers-reboot-could-be-a-television-show-smile-you-re-in-a-war-389793[1].jpg")
>>48127382
Those combi rifles of Yu Jing remind me of the machine guns from Starship troopers.
>>48126973
Zhanshi confirmed for the RPG mini in combat armor.
I'm serious, that's the same woman.
has anyone proxied blackjacks yet?
Cheap as fuck, vulnerable as fuck, but god damn t2 sniper on an ARM 5 2W platform is a scary ARO prospect
>>48127949
That's racist anon.
>>48128031
Yeah, they are really awesome IMO.
>>48127108
I do. It's nice to have for random faggots hiding prone on rooftops, in total cover.
>>48127366
>Sniffer bots
Remember comrade-subject, you have access to snifferlayer Kanrens.
>>48121127
>>48121973
>>48125498
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep reading the rules and take a look at the model catalog and make some purchases in a week or two.
>>48127949
They have the same face and pose on most of the dossiers. They work from a template for those dossiers
Also, the RPG mini works for ISS.
>>48127366
>I'm sorry, Bao-sama, I'm just delivering rice
Your arrive at your highschool in Sakuramachi, Shentang. However, instead of your homeroom teacher, a nice young man in an Imperial Judicial Service uniform walks in and informs you that your teacher was just arrested for conspiracy to distribute Kampeitai propaganda. You are confined to your classroom until he can question your entire class individually.
How fucked are you?
>>48128635
I'll be real scared, and think of what I'll say when he takes me into the interrogation roomThen I'll kill the infidel and write a warning on the walls with his blood,the fool didn't realize I planted those materials to lure him in
>>48128635
Kuang Shi/10
With my luck, the bitch has been inserting memetic propaganda engrams into my homework assignments for years without me noticing.
>>48125321
>>48125533
>they're still more expensive than spektrs
Ninjas aren't amazingly well rounded as TO units compared to what other factions get, true enough, but they're useful in YJ, particularly for vanilla lists. While YJ does have lots of 2W units, it doesn't have access to a whole ton of defensive mods (-3 equivalent on bikes/guilang/daofei/tiger and bots, -6 on shikami/hac tao/ninjas and the like). Putting aside the shikami, you *could* take the Hac Tao for similar roles to the ninja, but it's also ~70 points.
The Ninja KHD is a solid alternative to the Kanren KHD (they both cost the same amount of points), though the other options are a bit expensive.
>>48128722
>infidel
when did we let fiday into space-Asian high schools?
... I'd watch a show about that.
>>48128925Implying Fiday didn't kill some poor Japanese high-schooler and assume his or her identity.
I wonder how much of a problem it is for Fiday to accidentally kill each other while disguised.
>>48130064
Point estimate on Ahl Fassad?
>>48130229
Haha, pretty much.
>>48130064
if there's more than one fiday acting in an area, they're probably coordinating for some elaborate execution of a high-priority person of interest
They're not like the speculo killers. They don't go into deep cover as sleeper agents. They only infiltrate places for specific tasks.
>>48130231
Probably around or above the azra'il. Worse guns, but more of them, and potentially extra skills to boot.
>>48130231
c.55 points is the current estimate, to bring the Haqq part of Red Veil up to the same points roughly as YJ.
This is on the basis of:
-Azra'Il esque base line
-HMG
-LGL with Normal & Smoke ammo
-Heavy Pistol
-Mines & Minelayer
-Veteran Level 1
>>48130231
Al Fasid Regiment
MOV 4-2
CC 15
BS 13
PH 14
WIP 14
ARM 5
BTS 6
W 2
S 5
Skills: Sixth Sense L1; Minelayer; Veteran L1
Weapons: HMG + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal & Smoke Ammo), Antipersonnel mines, Heavy Pistol, Knife.
SWC 2
Pts 53
>>48130231
I might proxy him for a Gecko
>>48130441
Somewhere between a Blackjack and a TAG. Having Sixth Sense is pretty sweet
>>48130486
Why? The Geckos look awesome.
>>48130822
Because I'm going to buy it and don't play sand monkeys. Probably just keep everything because I'm too lazy to sell the rest
>>48130903
Fair enough.
>>48130528
Yep. Vl1 is ignore LOL?
>>48131257
Yup. It's a bit more than though- they are always regular no matter what- they ignore LoL, Isolation & Retreat I believe.
Haqq actually has quite a lot of Veteran Level 1 now.
>>48131378
Oh, ignoring isolation is nice.
>>48131445
Sort of, though getting isolated really only happens if you get hit with hacking or EM ammo. Either of those will fuck up HI anyways, irregardless of isolated.
>>48130486
That would work great IMO.
>>48131658
This is a great looking model. I really hope they leak the other version though. 30 euro is absurd and I don't want to buy both.
>>48131979
Wouldn't it be too small though? Ahl Fassed is Silhouette 5 and Geckos are Silhouette 6.
>>48130974
She's probably a Gulam, but please god be a Gulam. I want 5 man Gulam links in Hassassin so bad.
>>48126973
Are Asian girls just better?
Guy wanting to field a bolt team with some stupid questions.
Can you throw a drop bear over a wall in the active turn, without any enemies being in the immediate range of it?
Do you get the team bonuses when throwing the mine?
How can an enemy dispose of a mine?
Thanks in advance.
>>48132393
Why?
>>48133032
Because they'd provide a nice cheap 5 man option which is pretty nice given that the hassassin are usually packing lots of 25+ models. I doubt I'd take them all the time, but it would be nice to have a cheap core team option to open more list building opportunities. A full five man Ghulam link is about as expensive as a budget 3 man Muyib link.
>>48131995
It'll drop in price when people resell them in a year's time. GC VZ is now like £15, AKA the normal rate for Ltd Ed models.
>>48133210
Really I haven't seen any of those available anymore.
When's gencon? Also I hope they reveal the art for the commando and symbiobug unit for the Tohaa.
Anyone got the link to the painter app? I lost it.
>>48134284
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61395031/Infinity/index.html
Do you guys want me to put it somewhere else?
So I have a PanO starter and wanted to run bolts as a link team. With a combination of a bolt box, and converting some of my Starter dudes, I came up with this list for 250. What do you guys think?
>>48134742
Depending on what kind of games your playing. Because that has 0 specialists. Only if you're running annihilation or quadrant control could that stand a chance of winning.
>>48134936
shit I keep forgetting about specialists. What counts as a specialist? Is it specific to the type of mission?
>>48134955
Yes it's specific to the type of mission. But that usually doesn't matter much. Specialists are anyone with teh following skills/equipment: specialist troop, forward observer, doctor/paramedic, engineer, hacker, and chain of command. Sometimes missions require specifiic specialists (e.g. to detonate d-charges you need an engineer) but the above list are your usual suspects and many missions don't discriminate between them, though some classified objectives do.
>>48135065
Thanks for the info.
>>48135084
No problem. Typically if you're making a take-on-all-comers list you want at least one of each type of specialist in your list, so you have chance to tackle any mission/classified objective. If you know the mission(s) ahead of time you can tailor your list more precisely. Forward Observers are typically the most flexible and available of the specialists.
>>48135171
How bout this?
>>48135198
I don't know a ton about PanO but I think you could probably squeeze an upgrade to someone in there with those left over points. Looks a lot better though, since the paramedic Fusilier costs the same as the FO you might consider swapping them if you get a mission needs docs.
>>48135308
I get ya. Another question I had was, since FO's come with deployable repeaters, do they themselves act as repeaters? Do hackers count as repeaters for other hackers? Does hacking break a link team? From my understanding, the rest of the squad just idles.
>>48133210
Last couple auctioned on eBay went for 40-some and 60-some USD..
>>48135198
Some things I think you could change to make the list more adaptive. The changes I state don't really use the bolts veteran status.
You're a bit order starved for the LGL, so I'd drop that and make the fusilier my lieutenant, I'd take out the hacker from the bolt team as you have nothing really to supportware(except fairy dusting your lieutenant).
I'd take out the ORC, that nets you 54 points to play with.
You said you had the starter. I'd proxy the Nisse as a Black Friar, and I assume you have the NCA starter so that gives you a Hexa.
>>48135342
>do they themselves act as repeaters
No, they have to deploy them which is basically a smoke grenade toss or mine placement mechanically speaking. You're a physical repeater if you have the equipment: Repeater such as certain REM units, Combined Ikadrons, etc.
> Do hackers count as repeaters for other hackers
Nope. But all your hackers can act through any repeater.
>Does hacking break a link team? From my understanding, the rest of the squad just idles.
If it's a short order skill then you are correct, the rest of your link team just shuffles around and kicks dirt while the hacker does their thing. It will break the team if you do a full-order supportware however.
>>48135507
I actually do not have a NCA starter but I do want to buy a hexa sniper blister. I really want to run a black friar, but I'm not comfortable running it without a official source for the rules of Albedo (my friend is really a stickler for citing rules)
>>48135509
thanks again for clearing up
>>48135633
Albedo is in HS3, here's the download: http://assets.infinitythegame.net/downloads/hsn3rules/en/v3.1/hsn3rules.pdf
Completely official and actually a very easy rule to understand. Basically means troops with MSV(of any level), can't see it.
>>48135509
You can do a full order hacking action now in a link team, they changed that in HSN3.
>>48135864
Oh well shit good to know. You still can't enter a token state like impersonation though right?
>>48135933
No, but you can also use speculative fire in a link now too. It doesn't benefit from the +1 burst mod, but it still gets the +3 BS mod in a 5 man link.
>>48130441
I really want him to be 4-4
![280467-0477_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EGemdd0.jpg "280467-0477_3[1].jpg")
>>48131512
>getting isolated really only happens if you get hit with hacking or EM ammo.
>>48132689
>Can you throw a drop bear over a wall in the active turn, without any enemies being in the immediate range of it?
Yes, you can always use mines etc without enemies being in range of it, however if there is no revealed enemy in range, and there is an enemy camo token in the trigger area, you can't use the drop bear at that location (normally you could opt to intuitive attack with mines, but not with drop bears)
To throw "over a wall" would likely be an intuitive attack because you won't have LOF to the target spot, this would mean you are at -6 for your throwing roll in addition to normal range mods.
>Do you get the team bonuses when throwing the mine?
Yes, so with 3 members you can throw 2 drop bears at once, and with 5 members you get +3 to your PH for the throw. Remember you can only split fire in the active turn, so if you react with throwing 2 drop bears, it has to target a single point.
>How can an enemy dispose of a mine?
Drop bears are deployed as mine tokens, unlike normal mines which start out as camo tokens.
To remove a drop bear an enemy could use an engineer to deactivate it with their Deactivator, a Minesweeper to steal it, or just shoot it to destroy it. All these things require the mine to be revealed from camo first.
>>48136386
>Yes, so with 3 members you can throw 2 drop bears at once, and with 5 members you get +3 to your PH for the throw. Remember you can only split fire in the active turn, so if you react with throwing 2 drop bears, it has to target a single point.
Same guy here, I should clarify, this is specific to drop bears, they are a throwing weapon so fall under BS attacks, laying a mine is technically a different skill and doesn't get the link bonuses, so you can't lay 2 normal mines at once.
>>48136421
Do they generate AROs?
>>48135933
Just remember that when you do a full order skill like spec fire or supportware, it still activates the entire team triggering AROs.
>>48136546
Yes. You're still activating the team.
>>48136961
i mean the mines
>>48136546
The models acting would, but the mine itself wouldn't. So if you throw it over the wall the enemy can't do anything.
However, if the acting model is within 8" they can change facing as normal.
>>48137019
Also remember the mine goes down at the end of the order, so they wouldn't trigger the mine with an ARO on the order the mine was placed.
>>48135716
Would be important to mention Albedo only works on the first turn.
>>48128259
Not a problem. Let us know what you like!
Have fun. http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/haqqislam.html
>>48137033
Im reading that to dodge a deployable weapon requires a PH -3 roll. Is there a reason for this? Under dodging template weapons
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Dodge
>>48137193
also, can you dodge a template on your active turn? the rules state you can't move, so what happens if you get targeted by a template weapon
>>48137193
It makes mines better.
>>48137204
Ex: You declare Move, they declare template weapon, you declare dodge.
If you pass, you don't move but you take no damage from the attack.
>>48137204
To dodge a template you declare your first short skill, wait for the ARO and then declare dodge. If you declared a long skill and someone shot you with a template then you're shit out of luck.
My friend has ordered the Onyx box, and he wants to know what a good box/blister is that he could buy while waiting for it to be delivered.
>>48137018
The mines do not ARO, but they have their own effects. Whenever, a model or enemy marker executes an Order or ARO in the trigger zone of a mine, the mine explodes automatically. So the mines can go off on the turn it was planted.
For example Naga stays out of LoF and places a mine around the corner in sight of a nearby enemy Alguaciles. New Order: Naga peeks out. Alguaciles AROs and shoots and the Naga. The Naga fires back, and mine goes off as well.
Drop Bears are a little different so make sure you read up on them
>>48137493
>If you pass, you don't move but you take no damage from the attack.
Just to clarify cause this reads a bit confusingly, you do get the move from your "Move" declaration still, you just don't get the 2 inches a successful dodge gives you in ARO
>>48137549
Noctifers, Malignos, Doc Worm and the Unidron SWC box are staples. The Sphinx and Xeodrons are good heavy hitters.
>>48137848
+1
I would add Ikadron/Imetron.
So I have the following on hand for Ariadna. What can i do with it?
-Vet Kazakh w HMG
-Moblot w rifle
-Spetznas w shotgun
-Spetznas w Sniper rifle
-Spetznas w HMG
-Tank Hunter w HMG
As for Haqq, I got
-Asawira w Spitfire
-4 Naffatun
-4 KTS
-Janny w HMG
-Azra'il w HMG
-Azra'il w Feuerbach
Grorious Yu Chink
-Tigersoldat w Shotgun
-HacTao w HMG
-HacTao w haxx
-XL Invincible w HMC
-Invincible w HMG
