>You and your party are sent to parley with a lord to try and gain their support
>Turns out the lord is a 10 year old girl
How do you convince her to join your side?
>>48026646
>10 yo
The way she behaves clearly she read the script so it doesn't matter what we do, only what the DM wants
DEPENDS ON THE SETTING.
Lady Mormont was educated as fuck about her house's responsibility and pride. An approach that works with her isn't going to help if the 10 year old girl in question is a spoiled aristocrat who only cares about horses.
Your "what do" scenario is stupid.
Lyanna Mormont is sorta the reason I hate Loli fags. I like her character, but i'd still feel that any 10 year old girl in a game is the DM being a lolifag (aka pedo), and I wouldnt use one for the same reason. No, not because I dont want my players to think that of me. But Because I dont want to even be in the same metaphorical solar system of those obnoxious guys that shove their little girl fantasies and daydreams into everything.
>it's another lazy what do thread
>>48026646
In these situations there's usually a skeevy protectorate running things
Determine who, first and foremost
>>48026697
>DEPENDS ON THE SETTING.
You mean "depends on the girl", you fucking autist.
>>48026646
I roll to seduce
>>48026756
Or you know, a vizier/regent. Running the kingdom because the current king/queen is indisposed/crazy/retarded/a child is literally part of their job description. They aren't just there to scheme and be evil and shot on sight by murderhobos.
>>48026646
Is killing her an option? Because I feel like that's an option.
>>48026646
depends on the salad
>>48026646
Threaten to eat her. And not sexually either.
>>48026943
That's a little rude T B H
>thinly disguised pedo thread
>>48026943
>And not sexually either.
Too late, anon. You're already in my magical realm.
>>48026943
>>48027126
That's right, if you're going to eat someone, have at least the politeness to make it at least a little bit sexual.
>>48027126
>>48027206
I dunno, I find meals where people pretend not to be aroused by the food even more tittilating than otherwise.
>>48027156
beautiful filename
>>48027156
That's Tony Blair, you daft nonce.
>>48026646
Look guys!
Another what do thread!
Many laughs!
>>48026714
>Literally offended by other people's taste.
Passionate morality always leads to the rope, temper your prejudice and welcome the light of reason.
>>48027308
>>48027156
And he's eating a cucumber
>>48026737
In what parallel reality does posting your butthurt discourage the OP?
If you really want to show OP what you think of his thread, don't post in it.
>>48026646
My character's heir is not far from that age. I offer to marry the little Lady with the him when they're of age in 3-4 years.
>>48026646
Inform her that her >100 men are absolutely nothing compared the loyalty the Manderlys have shown, surviving getting their throats cut so they can build a fleet for the Starks. I remind her that Freys make for some good pies & she can too if she talks shit about the Manderlys.
>>48027388
Kill all pedos
>>48026646
Two words.
Tea.
Party.
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
I dont, i convince/bribe the grown ups around her
I ask help from my companion with the high CHA and diplomacy skills. Thank you Leadership feat.
>>48026646
Depends on behaviour of said girl.
Had this situation in game. Freaked out at first, but then acted like she was an adult, because she was acting like an educated, responcible and smart adult. She probably had no childhood at all.
>>48026697
Yes, everyone fucking realises this. OP fucking knows this. The expectation is you take the idea and run with it, ffs. Explain that you're talking about a prissy princess if that's what you're doing
If we all knew who the girl was we'd already know she'd fucking say. Creativity is the fucking point of threads like this blaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggggghh
>>48028431
Kill all antipedos
>>48030677
Kill all
>>48026646
>parley
>>48026943
I don't follow. I can think of a couple ways to interpret this, but not a single one is not sexual.
>>48029115
Ask a question with an answer, not a question with ten billion answers.
>>48026646
>10 years old
>Talks with the wisdom of someone much much older who has lived through countless battles
Fuck this shitty season, jumping the shark and then jumping the shark even furder
>>48030882
>jumping the shark
you mean jumping the Stark?
>>48030830
Whoosh.
>>48030894
>Arya is immortal, can teleport and kill an entire castle
>Jon is untouchable, literally countless arrows, swords, spears, horses, etc missed him several times
Yep, jumping the stark
>>48030972
>Littlefinger can hide an army right next to the most important fortification in the North without the Boltons knowing it, then march it past at least two other houses' strongholds without anyone raising an alarm
>>48031005
>Littelfinger
Make no mistake, it was Sansa's invisible shield
>>48031075
The one she used to hide the missing Bolton dogs?
I'd rather think he used his teleporter to bring them all in directly from the Vale, then borrowed it to Varys so he could bring the Dornish and Tyrell fleets to Daenerys.
>>48026646
I will find out what she genuinely cares for and use it as leverage in my sound reasoning to gain her allegiance.
>>48026646
And having a race horse as a back-up in case she's a tomboy
>>48031005
>Duel to the death at hands reach
>Ramsay uses a bow and is genuinely surprised he can't defeat a guy with a shield
I managed to look through fingers on entire episode 9, but his puzzled face that shields defeat arrows was just too much bullshit concentrated within 10 minutes
>>48031408
>Jon blocks his face and upper torso
>Keep shooting for the face
>Not just shoot him in the knee
>>48030972
>>48031005
Don't forget about the eunuch. But really it's just teleports. Short-ranged, long-ranged, army-wide, as-an-immediate-action, etc. Teleports everywhere.
>>48026943
>>48028450
>>48031373
Those anons know what's up. Rest of you are faglets
>>48031453
>>48031453
>Jon does the classic "slasher slow walk"
>Not just running up to end it quickly and without any risk
So many seasons... and he still knows nothing
>>48031521
Varys "teleportation" is probably one of those few things that made sense... See, there is no reason whatsoever to asume the final scene happend within same day, week or month. And given how the fleet is mix of two different ones, he most likely meet the rest half-way through the sea.
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
By reporting the GM to my state's child protective services, and having the NEXT GM use an appropriate NPC instead of a child.
>>48031599
Best posted
>>48030972
>>48031521
>teleports
are you really so dense that you think each different strand of the show matches with the others chronologically? That Dany is burning the Masters' fleet at Meereen at the same time as the battle of the bastards is happening? Fuck, do you really think it took Sam a whole year to get to oldtown? It's clear that weeks or even months can pass between episodes for some characters, and that the series is edited to make each character arc develop across the season, not to make them match up with each other.
>>48026646
Shotgun wedding.
>>48031599
Hello? Oh yes your DM is using a child in a Fantasy setting? Oh and it's a Lord and not a Lady? Well we'll be right over to teach him his pronoun's.
>>48026714
>plays with pedos
>annoyed when they project their little girl attraction onto the game
this is /tg/ in a nutshell, you play with people you loathe just so you can have whine copypasta to share with the other retards of this board
>>48031597
Yo blitz the archer and you have no chance of blocking, so you're going to get hit. Dumbass.
>>48030972
The faceless man CAN teleport and kill an entire castle. That is canonical magical badassery. Having received 60% of that training, its reasonable to think she could do the same to somebody as inept as the Freys.
Jon could have the favour of the lord of light, or the many faced god which is obviously the stranger- the only god that matters is death. But that actually isn't necessary so much as statistics. Read even the slightest amount of history on WW1- there are literally thousands of fuckers who went four years being seemingly untouchable while all their friends died in the storm of steel. For each one of them there are tens of thousands more who went 3 years before getting shot as you'd expect them to have on the first damn battle. Fatalism led most of them to just accept it and keep charging the machine gun nest. War is weird man, so Jon survived because sometimes people survive. It isn't any more miraculous than somebody somewhere winning the lottery.
>>48031005
You mean all those forces that were summoned to either Ramsey or Jon's forces? Notice afterward there was no reclaiming any fortresses or rogue houses. Ramsey only had two allied hoses. Both were present in force. Both were defeated.
ITT smug asshats who think they're smarter than Jon Snow yet somehow know far far less than nothing.
>>48032169
>There are people out there defending the jumping shark Stark season
>>48032049
Th board is truly an Ouroboros of faggots eating their own shit.
>>48032169
>ITT smug asshats who think they're smarter than Jon Snow yet somehow know far far less than nothing.
What are scouts?
>>48032225
>There are people out there who will hate anything because they think it makes them look cool and its easier than actually having something clever to say
I speak with her plainly and simply and make sure the power behind the throne is listening so that she can help the girl make the right decisions.
>>48032169
>Moat Cailin
>Not manned by the most loyal Bolton forces after they married Ramsay to the woman accused of killing Joffrey in preperation of the oncoming Lannister army
>>48026714
Her existence is reflective of the times that she came to power in. Her father died. Her brothers (if they existed I'm not 100% sure) are dead. She doesn't have any uncles or other male relatives who would have taken over, because they're fucking DEAD. Robert's Rebellion, War of Five Kings, fighting the Wildlings, fighting the Brotherhood, gallivanting around the world and fighting for no reason at all. The world has taken a greater proportion of honorable fighting men in the last generation than it ever has before, and Lyanna Mormont is a reflection of that.
That's the difference between a cool ten year old character and stupid loli bait.
>>48032289
>Implying this much
My entire point is how using a bow in a melee duel was stupid, regardless of circumstances. I managed to take a literal mountain of corpses, I've managed to take giant that does nothing againt phallax surrounding him, I managed to ignore a cavalry charge that casually leaves a single foot soldier in the middle of cavalry clash unscratched and few other things, but that bow was simply a breaking point for me. And that's all.
But nice to know I hate things (do you even know what that word means?) and I do so for approval of people in anonymous internet imageboard
>>48032169
>The faceless man CAN teleport and kill an entire castle
I mean, no?
They literally can't teleport.
That is literally not in their repertoire.
>>48032169
>If you blitz the archer you can't block his arrows
Maybe because he can't shoot anymore?
>>48032268
Screenwriters can't into tactics. Fact is, if they had included one throwaway bit with the wildlings running the opposition scouts around and used that as an excuse I would have accepted it because it's fine for a commander at his first battle to be caught off guard.
>>48032289
>There are people out there who will blindly drive the hype train, even if it crashed few years prior
Season 6 was just bad. Deal with it. It's so obvious they can't handle the show without using the books anymore I'm sincerely amazed you are defending it at all.
>>48032470
S6 was overall pretty "meh", but it was never as bad as the complete and utter shit that was S5.
>>48032504
That's why I'm calling it bad. I'm not saying it was "the worst".
>>48032403
Arya once asked him to kill a man about to deliver a message WHILE he was delivering the message, and it was done in literally 3 seconds. He constantly appears out of nowhere and vanishes when you turn around. So did his bitchy apprentice. I guess you could write it off as "well they're just badass ninjas" but at that point what's the functional difference between that and limited teleportation?
>>48032504
Being better than S5 isn't saying much. It's like saying that the average /r9k/ poster isn't as desperate for sex as Christian Weston Chandler.
Objective season rankings:
1 >> 3 > 2 >> 4 >>> 6 >>>>>>>> 5
>>48032610
so basically ranked by the amount of soft core porn found in each?
>>48026646
I attend her tea party and just in case bring Mr Teddy Softon with myself
>>48032676
Both season 5 and 6 proven that unless you throw copious amounts of tits on screen, there is nothing else worth watching in the show. unless you want to end up cringing every five minutes
>>48032714
>hardened knight goes to a tea party with his stuffed toy
FUND IT
>>48032676
The Littlefinger whorehouse scenes were always some of the worst in the series, but Sean Bean and Mark Addy more than made up for it in S1.
>>48032743
Who said I'm a hardened knight?
>>48032764The bear looks very knightly.
>>48026646
I hurl a chair at the GM for making another rip-off campaign. Steve, if you need to rip things off, at least go for something obscure
>>48026714
>whizzard.jpg
So when are we gonna talk about the german /fit/dude?
>>48031858
In the states of Minnesota, Montana, Washington, and Maryland, as well as some provinces of Canada, fictional representations of children (loli hentai, etc) have the same rights as real children, so I can see it happening.
>>48026646
THROUGH THE MOON DOOR!
>>48035607
Where do Whores go?Through the Ho-Door
>>48030830
The whole point of asking the question on an anonymous message board is to receive a billion answers, hopefully each with a different and interesting perspective.
>>48026714
You're a fucking idiot. The whole point of her character is Fourfold.
First, she's Jon's best ally, but she's a little girl with 62 or whatever men. It highlights how fucked his position is. He has to take relative scraps wherever he can.
Second, it shows that the North is still big on respecting titles and positions. Also reminding us Lyanna is a popular Northern name for any showfags that need a casual reminder about Lyanna Stark.
Third, it highlights how fucked the realm is in general that this little girl is what's left for claimants of her house. The North and the realm in general has been bled very, very hard. People are feeling it all over the place, and even if Jon wins this one battle, he'll still be fucked afterwards.
Fourth, she's the perfect person to shame the other houses into falling in line. This little girl and her handful of men were brave and loyal enough to follow their oaths and make them look like little bitches. If she were just another big strong manly lord, it'd be one thing, and they'd probably just challenge him to a fist fight after he shit-talked them to their face like a cocky prick. But as a little girl? That bypasses manly pride defenses and shames them into going full support mode.
She's literally the only good OC the showrunners have ever done.
>>48031599
The fact that you automatically project sexualization of a little girl just because she exists says a lot about you, anon.
>>48032745
Every Littlefinger scene is comedy gold thanks to memes.
>>48037709
Too bad he never got to meet Wun-Wun.
>>48039795
He might make a comment about his corpse...hopefully
>>48039836
For you
Reminder that lyanna stark was a whore whose thirst for targaryen dick caused the whole shitfest to unfold, that Eddard Stark lied to his best friend's face and then got pissy when Robert wanted his revenge against the targaryen offspring.
The starks are nothing but shitheads and troublemakers. If lyanna could've stay faithful to her bethroted who clearly loved her more than his own life none of the shit in GoT would've happened
>>48033453
who?
>>48026778
She's part of the setting but you're not wrong.
>>48040424
They still would have been stuck with a vicious psychopath for a king. If Cerci and Jaime had been less fucking degenerate than GoT never would have happened.
>>48027645
I don't get it are these jokes? That's clearly John Howard eating a dagwood dog. Eating it weirdly too.
>>48036512
It sounds like you're suggesting Jon should marry little Lyanna
>>48026646
Mind control
>>48040750
The mad king was old and probably nit gonna live for long.
Rhaegar would've been a good king and un-fuck many things .
But he wanted that stark pussy and made everything worse for everyone
>>48041098
If you think about it, GoT is a cautionary tale about lusting after tomboys
>>48026646
just gonna leave this here:
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Harmony_(episode)
>>48040750
If Littlefinger hadn't been a complete shit, or if Jon Arryn and the rest of the court hadn't been complete blind to that fact none of the events of the books would've transpired either.
>>48026646
Well, in my ASoIaF game (the Green Ronin one), I'm playing the Heir to House Steiner. House Steiner is a custom house where some INSANE rolls meant we got 50+ Defense and OVER SEVENTY on our Power. We did some talking and established that House Steiner has long been known as the Guard Dogs of the North, and The Stark's Loyal Hounds. My character is HUEG and HUEGLY LOYAL. Literally, she's as tall as Clegane, one hands a Valyrian Steel greatsword, wears plate armor that would crush a normal man, etc, etc. And she's ridiculously loyal to her House and to House Stark. Our GM has admitted he plans her to have a psychotic breakdown when the Red Wedding happens.
She'd appeal to honor and loyalty, to the bonds of the North. And her talking down to Sansa (not so much Jon, he IS a bastard after all) would earn her a bitchslap. Which would be a whole fucking world of trouble.
>>48041268
...also, House Stark would make House Mormont kinda pointless. They maintain 800 Trained troops and 700 Veteran troops, and a crew of Elite Personal Guard, plus they're home to one of the biggest Military Academies in Westeros. Probably about 500 would stay at home and protect the Hound's Den, but the rest would march at the drop of the hat if the Starks called for it.
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
I flop my massive cock out onto the table in front of her. Having never seen a real one, she immediately surrenders to my will.
>>48033462
>a little girl being a lord
>loli, hentai
>>48028372
Your dungeon master kindly reminds you not to take book information for granted in e10.
>>48041686
Autism
Lady Mormont is probably just a figurehead that is allowed to do pretty much whatever she likes because she's not currently of marriable age.
Once she bleeds, there's a whole host of things that can happen:
They marry her off to a lesser house that's desperate for a leg-up. The first male offspring inherits the Mormont name.
They marry her off to some other house and another Mormont, a male Mormont is made Lord.
At this point she's just a titular figurehead whose desires and impulses are indulged.
>>48043385
So they should marry her off to Jon is what you're saying?
>>48026646
>Identify greasiest and most hooknosed advisor in the court
>kill on sight
They probably won't join you until after they search the deceased's quarters and find scroll after scroll of smut involving their new lord, along with a collection of piss jugs.
>>48026646
>Fall onto knees
>Humbly ask for help
>Clasp her knees
>Look up into her eyes
>Cast Slay Living
>>48041073
no hes going to marry one of his cousins
>>48041208
Either that or about how mindlessly fucking every woman in sight can lead to harm. Had Robert not fathered a bastard child prior to his engagement to Lyanna, maybe she would have married him.
>>48028372
>her >100 men
this doesent mean what you think it means
>>48036512
Except that Maege Mormont is still alive, this is a very good post.
>>48040424
(You)
>>48041073
He's clearly going to marry his Aunt.
>>48043385
Mormont have a tradition of females being able to inherit.
>>48041243
If Aegon IV hadn't naturalized his bastards and given his sword to Daemon, then Varys wouldn't have set this whole situation up.
>>48041073
Give it five or six years and that's exactly what he should do.
>>48036512
Chill with the salt friend, nobody is attacking Lyanna in the show. Im just saying in tabletop, one wouldnt be able to replicate that with a pedo aftertaste because of lolifags. Serious man, you gonna wreck your stomach if you don't ease on the ragemode.
>>48046805
nah ,she is getting bran.
>>48046878
There are plenty of people who do tabletop who aren't lolifags. And that poster didn't seem particularly ragemodey to me.
>>48047201
If you play live with friends, you probably can have better control over this. I depend on finding online people to get my fix. And i assure you, in a group of 5 people, the chances of no lolifags end up being pretty low.
Speaking of doing tabletop, I don't suppose there's anyone who's running any Green Ronin ASOIAF games at present?
Or anyone who's been able to try out the Night's Watch expansion, I'd like to give that a look at some point.
>>48044672
>>48046084
>>48046805
It sounds like the set up for a harem anime, starring Jon Snow.
>>48049651
Goodness knows he's pretty enough.
Heh, just thought, would it be too much to have the White Lady (what ensnared the guy who'd call himself Night's King) as part of the harem?
>>48049698
That might be too much, the ghost of Ygritte would be cool tho
>>48033462
>In the states of Minnesota, Montana, Washington, and Maryland, as well as some provinces of Canada, fictional representations of children (loli hentai, etc) have the same rights as real children
>Maryland
I'd like to see the list of counties that actually *enforce* this, motherfucker.Because if Howard is among them, I'll fucking laugh.
>>48026714
>lolifag (aka pedo)
Honestly, a lot of lolicons are just people who find cute things sexually attractive.
>>48047807
Closest I've ever seen people running that game are just anons rolling for houses.3d6 for location
Rolled 1, 2, 6 = 9 (3d6)
>>48050122
>>48050139
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, my dice invariably suck.
>>48050139
We're in the Riverlands; Hoster Tully being our liege. 7d6
Rolled 6, 3, 6, 1, 3, 5, 5 = 29 (7d6)
>>48050199
You sure you want me to keep doing these?
>>48044831
The ultimate moral of Game of Thrones:
keep it in your pants ffs
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
Toss the severed head of the last crown-wearing fancy-pants who didn't bend over my knee in front of her and give her the choice of either providing unconditional support or becoming our next victim.
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
Traditionally. I go to her with good ol'
>muh honor
>muh traditions
>muh stand united against the fuggen savages
And after pouring out enough shit for a show, proceed to bribe and threaten her regents.
Rolled 2, 3, 5, 4, 6, 5, 3 = 28 (7d6)
>>48050199
Come on decent house
>>48026789
>They aren't just there to scheme and be evil and shot on sight by murderhobos.
stop lying on the internet, anon
>>48026646
>bard happens to be the lead singer of a famous boyband
she was on our side from the beginning
>>48037709
Game of Thrones is pretty much only worth watching when you're keeping in mind that Aidan Gillen is actually playing CIA.
>>48051790
I have another stem of the duckling syndrome - I just can't help but see him as Tommy Carcetti, thrown into continent-sized medieval Baltimore.
>>48051894
Except this time you're actively rooting for him to die.
>>48051940
I actually did it even the first time.
>>48050111
People that equate lolis to 3dpd are the silliest things
>>48052079
>picrelated
I originally liked that series, but it became apparent VERY quick that the author is incapable of creating a loli outside of his favorite [smug] archetype, and it grows really stale really quickly. Much potential was wasted.
![521a22834389311542558933539697c5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/geymmQB.jpg "521a22834389311542558933539697c5[1].jpg")
>>48052235
Clearly you haven't read much of his work then. He draws a damn fine smug little shit but that only makes up a portion of them.
>>48052327
>only makes up a portion of them
Well then the rest doesn't exist in translated forms known to google.
>>48052327
Oh, and now I recognize the one in your picrelated, and she's the smuggest of them all.
>>48052079
Honestly, I could buy that maybe around a quarter of people who like lolis also like kids, but that is possibly it.
I think a lot who like it are also similar to those who jerk off to rape, it's only arousing to them because it's not real and they have no desire to actually go out and do it.
>>48052079
>>48052235
>>48052327
>tfw lost my complete Rustle collection and too despondent to start over again
Life is suffering.
>>48026646
Something something realistic lolis, something something 1000 year old dragon, something something magical realm, something something paladin trap. Also depends on the setting.
>>48026646
Just whip your dick out. She'll be scared and intrigued. Spoiler:Dont let her touch it. That's just wrong you percerts.
>>48055312
I mean shit, that's what Jon Snow did. After she got a peek at a big dick, she decided that's what she wants to follow.
Also, I feel like Non Snow is going to end up fucking Sansa.
>>48046246
The North has a tradition of daughters inheriting after sons, but before uncles.
>>48055407
If he ends up fuggin anyone it has to be Arya, she still gets wet over that tiny sword he gave her
>>48056681
The original plan was for there to be a love triangle between Tyrion, Jon and Arya.
>>48044617
>Death Ward rings
>Antimagic Field trap goes off
>Guardsmen grapple you
Now what, sir I-am-magical?
>>48032357
except you're wrong.
The Mormonts were already a small house ruled by women before the War of the Five Kings even started, with their leige Lord joining the Night's Watch and his heir being exiled. Maige was a badass she-bear who ruled Bear Island because there was nobody else to do it, and her heir Dacey was a woman grown following in her mother's footsteps. The show replaced her with a little girl for the lulz
>>48057060
Lyanna is also a character in the books, and she should be the current Lady of Bear Island the same way Bran was Lord of Winterfell while Robb marched south.
>>48052079
People who used 3dpd are not to be taken serious in any case. Simply by saying this you are making the other side of the argument stronger.
>>48026714
>little girls existing in a setting means the qm is a pedophile.
>>48045930
She's dead in the show.
>>48026646
I give that bitch a bicycle.
>>48026646
>How do you convince her to join your side?
Deal with her guardians/regents.
Failing that, deal with the most prominent claimant to her title (of which there should be a fucktonne given we're talking of a 10yo girl) and usurp her.
>>48056728
That's an outright lie. Stop it.
>>48026646
I roll to seduce
>>48057400
Little girls being given important roles of power is a common thing to do for DMs with a loli fetish/attraction. And playing little girls or taking the little girls that exist as companions is common for players doing so. Your argument is as good as:
"Cocks and horses, and horsecocks exist in real life. So the DM describing the dongs of your mounts is not magical realm or indication he has a horsecock fetish." or "Urine and urination are part of life, so the fact the bandits pee on you and it's described with great detail doesn't mean your DM is a whizzard."
>>48026646
I don't remember Lyanna Mormont from the books at all. Is it tv show OC or have I just forgotten about her?
>>48043385
You really don't know much about house Mormont, Lyanna had three older sisters who all died in the war, actually giving with axes and ship.
If she doesn't want to marry someone she isn't getting married
>>48057493
She hasn't shown up in person yet, but she sent a badass letter to Stannis in ADWD: "House Mormont knows no king but the King in the North whose name is Stark".
>>48057493
There is a Lyanna Mormont in the books, but she hasn't actually appeared.
>>48057472
If I think it would be interesting to have a kid in a position of power I'll fucking do it and get out of my face if you're some kind of prude autist who's unable to not correlate power with sex.
If someone takes /tg/'s advice 100% seriously he'll dm in world full of male human fighters.
>>48057458
Except it's from GRRM's own notes from the first book.
>>48057550
So you are the retarded splurting the male human fighter threads? Or at least partaking on that stupid meme? Fuck off mate. You are cancer.
You men there's noone manipulating her or she hasn't been forced into marriage yet?
I try to get closer to her with gifts, get rid of her advisors and establish my own power house.
I tell her the ded are komin.
>>48057606
/tg/ in general doesn't like anything different. Anything that deviates a little from the norm is labelled 'that guy', 'special snowflake' or 'magical realm' by some. Take a look at this thread: people are sperging out at the possibility of having a girl in position of power.
>If you put a child in your game as an important NPC your a pedofag.
/tg/ is not one person, but that's what some people here are saying. And this is retarded.
>>48058049
Pedobullshit or not, having a girl in position of power is still going to frown a lot of brows. It just will.
>>48058679
Children were in positions of power all the fucking time, but they usually had advisors who ruled for them. If you've played in a lot of medieval settings it'd be weird not to meet at least one child in a position of power over the years.
>>48058679
Let me re-itterate:
If you are going to run grim-derp campaign or spin a story that treats itself very serious and then suddenly make a 10 year old a leader of some sort and in the same time a very reasonable and "experienced" one, people will frown.
If you are going run something to akin Neverending Story - go for it, it will suit the rest of the elements.
>>48058729
>Confusing regencies with actual ruling
>>48045022
You think pedos understand basic math?
>>48057599
Timestamp or gtfo.
>>48049651
I think it'll end up with Danaerys, Jon, and Arya being married. Jon and Dany are obvious, so I'll just stick to answering "why arya?"
For the renewed Targaryen line to be established, we need an heir. But Dany is infertile now. Ooops. So plural marriage, obviously, which we kind of knew already because the dragon has three heads and aegon and his sisters and all. But it also implies that Dany needs to take a husband and a wife, so that the issue from that pair can be the heir. And this isn't a big deal, since Dany has already shown an interest in the occasional fish taco to spice things up.
Who else can it be? Sansa? Recall that Eddard died because Sansa betrayed him to tell Cersei his plans. All because she wanted to be Queen herself. The Sailor's Wife in Braavos? Maybe Arianne Martell, but she's a late entry to the series. Missandei is a former slave, a foreigner who brings no political cachet to the table. Margaery has been thrice wedded and never bedded. Not a bad choice, but not a POV character and I just don't see it. Asha Greyjoy? Maybe, but probably not. She's smart, wild, reckless... and utterly self-defeating.
Arya seems like the most logical pick from a thematic standpoint. We've got Rhaegar come again paired up with Lyanna come again. Arya gets the valyrian steel blade Dark Sister (currently held by the Three Eyed Crow, but originally belonging to Aegon the Conquerer's sister). Arya, the tomboy who Sansa ridiculed, now Queen of Westeros. She and Jon love one another already, and he's her cousin, not her brother. As a Warg, her non-targaryen blood won't be an issue in the dragon-taming department.
>>48059395
>Dany is infertile
>Didn't read ADWD
>>48057493
>>48057514
>>48057515
And in her in-person appearances on the show, she keeps repeating that one line we have from the books.
Love her in the show, but I wish the writers could match GRRM's skill.
>>48059416
Hemorrhaging doesn't require that you be fertile. Women who can't have kids can still have bleeding. She ate poison berries. So far, all our evidence is that she's infertile.
Yes, her being fertile opens up the door to her pairing with Tyrion or Jaime. Especially if one of those guys is a secret Targaryen. Yes, that fits with War of the Roses (but if that's how GRRM will roll, then the closest parallel to the Tudors is if a Blackfyre married a Lannister).
I still think the Jon/Arya connection fits better with the story.
>>48059469
All steps of Miri Maz Dur's proffecy have come true. The sun has set in the east, seas have gone dry, and mountains have flown in the wind. Only a matter of time 'till Dany has a son she names Drogo.
>>48059607
We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I agree that GRRM has an out to declare the prophesy fulfilled if he wants Dany to have a child. But equally I think there's no necessity to having her no longer be infertile.
To me, the better story is with Dany as ruling queen and Jon and Arya as her husband and wife. But go ahead and make your case. Who's the third head of the dragon if not Arya?
To me, it could be that this third head isn't married to her, just a loyal servant. It fits, but it isn't a very satisfying conclusion. Or maybe it's Aegon Blackfyre, reuniting the Targaryen family line via marriage and resolving the Red/Black division once and for all. Downside, of course, is the foreshadowing that a false dragon will only lead us further into darkness.
Or maybe it's Jaime or Tyrion.
But none seem very likely to me. Go ahead and make your case. You clearly know your stuff and I'm willing to be persuaded.
>>48059469
>2016
>There are still people stupid enough to consider any other ending than Jon/Dany pairing
It's obvious since 2nd book and roughtly start of 3rd season. And it takes to be really, really dense not to get that.
>>48059708
I don't know, seeing how deep into the girl-power meme the show is(trying to pass that atrocity they did to Dorne as justified and good storytelling) I think the endgame will be Danny ruling solo till old age, a huge harem, outliving every other character and then choosing a competent heir not related to her.
The book on the other hand is working towards Danny's heel-turn and eventual confrontation with Rhaegar's newfound son.
>>48041268
How is the Green Ronin game? A buddy of mine wants to run a game in the setting and I'm looking for the best option.
>>48026646
I stall for time.
Eventually, the fat asshole GM will die of a heart attack; then we can burn his campaign notes (per his wishes) and go play a game that doesn't suck.
>>48059843
Have you considered reading my post? I took Jon/Dany as a given. But the dragon has three heads, and I propose that that third head is clearly Arya.
>>48059999
What they did to Dorne sucks donkey dick, no argument there. And I'm not going to predict what'll happen on the show, given that THEY don't know what will happen. They're clearly making it up as they go along.
The show has a strong girl power vibe, and what could be more fedora-tippingly progressive than a strong ruling Queen who takes both a husband AND a wife? It's poly, bi, same-sex marriage, feminist (Arya and Jon end up as senior advisors/operatives, not co-rulers). If they show the wedding night, the entire Internet might go down. What more could HBO possibly want?
In the book, I think GRRM is aiming for Jon and Dany to be rivals, even maybe enemies at first. Then grudging respect and finally they fight their feelings until a marriage makes obvious sense and they bang the living shit out of one another. Possibly after a R+L=J reveal makes him a fit consort to a Queen. Either way, I don't see her becoming a villain, I see her making mistakes and confronting her own darker nature, perhaps with/against Jon Snow, but ultimately taking the side of good (which doesn't necessarily mean exterminating the Others in some apocalyptic battle as everyone else seems to assume).
"Three mounts must you ride, one to bed and one to dread and one to love". The first was Daario, the second who knows (maybe Euron Greyjoy?), and the third is clearly Jon. Notice there isn't a fourth-- no other man in her life. Which implies either the third dragon rider either won't be sharing a bed with her, or it'll be a woman.
>>48060341
>Have you considered reading my post?
Too long, Clanky, too looong!
>>48060341
Dany in the book is going to save the realm then destroy the system of fiefdom and monarcy since most of Westoros has been wiped out, just as how after the black death serfdom began to disengrate. The Iron Throne was Viserys dream. Daenerys wants the house with the red door
>>48060540
Dany as Yvonne Strahovski. I like it!
https://youtu.be/gcFEDSsmAxs?t=2m34s
>>48059708
>Who's the third head of the dragon if not Arya?
Tyrion's been having the typical Targaryen dreams of flying. Don't got time to write up any more on it, but I think Jon, Dany and Tyrion will be the three heads no matter how utterly dull i find that idea.
I tell her I can give her the succ
>>48060731
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_with_the_red_door
???
>>48060906
You don't need to, I've heard the theory and it has considerable evidence behind it. Tyrion is possibly a son of Aerys raping Johanna, giving him Targaryen blood that justifies him being accepted by a dragon. He has been a POV character since the beginning. He and Jon are already friends. It's a way to unify the Lannister/Stark conflict much as the Tudors were descendants of both (though far closer to the Lancastrians). He's had the dragon dreams.
He's also, IMO, in the middle of a transition from good guy to bad. Even as his brother Jaime is on a redemptive arc. If he ends up a bad guy, then obviously there's no room for him with a dragon. Obviously you're free to believe that or not.
*If* Dany becomes fertile again, then Tyrion is on a very short list of possible dragon riders, because at that point Dany doesn't need a fertile woman to produce an heir. If.
So I agree that he's a prime suspect, but my money's on Arya.
>>48061092
It was a joke. A Game of Thrones was published well over a decade before Chuck was filmed. Both are hotties who dream of a house with a red door.
>>48032790
>twist: Ser Teddy Softon is the knight, the anon's character is a lowly retainer
>>48059999
Asuming Aegon isn't a Blackfyre pretender.
>>48060045
Its really good imo, the only thing is combat can become pretty stilted pretty quick.
As in, the default spear retainer NPC trying to fight his clone would take fucking ages due to how armour works.
>>48061372
Personally I would love it if Jaime became the third head, and it turnes out he and Cersei where Aerys' children. The irony of Tyrion being Tywins only son is just too sweet, but I don't put much stock in this outcome.
>>48061593
That's MISTER Teddy Softon, not Ser.
>>48061841
Ser Teddy "The Mister" of House Softon.
>>48061607
I'm assuming that he IS a blackfyre. I thought that >>48059999 was talking about Jon, revealed as Rhaegar's son via Lyanna on the TV show.
He'd be a great candidate for the job, but in-story we know what a false dragon will lead them further into darkness, and out-of-story we know that he's only popping up as a POV character very, very, very late. Too late IMO to be serving a purpose like that in the plot. Even now we're not getting POV chapters from him, just the people around him. So I'm not buying it. He's a logical choice only if you're looking at this as a statesmanship problem and not as a work of literature.
I agree that in abstract re-unifying the targaryen lineage would be great. The more I read about the Blackfyre rebellions, the more I wonder if maybe Daemon would have been the better king. Of course, even if both would have been great, the real danger was the uncertainty in the realm stemming from having two good candidates with strong claims to the throne. Hence
>>48046246
>If Aegon IV hadn't naturalized his bastards and given his sword to Daemon, then Varys wouldn't have set this whole situation up.
The Blackfyres meant that Varys helps Aerys tip the realm into chaos. Rhaegar taking Lyanna needn't have torn the realm apart. Had Aerys kept Brandon Stark as a hostage against his father's good behavior, there'd have been no executions and no need for Robert's Rebellion. Barristan attributed Aerys's problems in part to Varys, and i tend to agree. I attribute Varys's existence to the Blackfyres.
>>48061817
I think it would be fun to think about and talk about as a possibility, but not so fun if it were actually the official ending in the books.
>>48059426
>Love her in the show, but I wish the writers could match GRRM's skill.
I think you're hoping for a bit much there.
>>48060045
>A buddy of mine wants to run a game in the setting and I'm looking for the best option.
Any spots still open?
>>48062084
Yeah, just look at this last season. The only posistive thing I can say about it is that these last two episodes had some stellar cinematography and directing for a tv-series. The scripts were consistently shit, and all dialogue ranged from passable to outright cringeworthy. Doesn't matter if they have a couple amazing actors and actresses when they have to work with writing like this.
>>48062621
Well, it was better than the previous season, although I'm not sure how much of an endorsement that is.
I wonder if anyone will do like an animated series but properly hewing closer to the books. Renly and Oberyn being douchebags and Lady Stoneheart and Stannis being an actually pretty decent guy. And Waymar Royce going down fighting.
That'd be cool.
>>48062706
Wymar Royce was a badass, but the true Royce tragedy is what they did to his father in the series. We didn't get much of the "Bronze" Yohn Royce from the books.
>>48062828
>Wymar Royce was a badass, but the true Royce tragedy is what they did to his father in the series. We didn't get much of the "Bronze" Yohn Royce from the books.
Yeah. Hell, he doesn't have any bronze on him at all.
>>48062853
The only guy in the books with +1 Armour, and he doesn't even have a +1 Armour.
>>48062928
Mind you, it is bronze, so I think that's something of an exaggeration.
Ooh, there's another thing I'd like to see, proper Thenns.
>>48062706
>>48062706
Having the others/whitewhatevers be fancy ice elf ghost things would be cool, too. Rather than just wrinkly white sourpuss demons.
>>48062972
Mother of god. I held back from saying "an anime" because I was afraid that someone had already attempted one.
Sometimes I hate being right.
>>48040424
Reminder that Lyanna was under no obligation to love Robert, and that Robert only really knew Lyanna as his best friend's smoking hot sister, and little else about her real personality.
Robert's true love was battle. He would have revolted for less.
>>48063003
They're just covers for the Japanese editions
>>48062998
Mm, exactly.
And I would like to see if they could do the Battle of the Blackwater justice in a animated thing. Y'know, Stannis' attack being two-pronged, there being ten Wildfire hulks instead of just one, an actual sea battle in the bay, etc etc.
>>48062959
>Most civilized wildlings
>Only wildlings that can work metal
>Only wildlings with hereditary rule
>Their heir is married with the Karstark heiress by Jon in a sharp political move
"Let's just call the cannibalistic river clans for 'Thenns' so we can cut them from the story as soon as possible. We can't risk wasting time on any of the interesting neuance of the books."
>>48063192
>"Let's just call the cannibalistic river clans for 'Thenns' so we can cut them from the story as soon as possible. We can't risk wasting time on any of the interesting nuance of the books."
They have had to make a lot of concessions like that, even GRRM hisself admitted that some were necessary.
You think something like that would happen in animated version, or can they usually get away with that?
>>48063247
Animated versions have as many concessions as anything else, if not more. But it mostly depends on the creators. It's up to them what particular nuance should be included and which should be cut.
Look at Rankin Bass' Return of the King, done as a sort-of conclusion to the animated but incomplete Lord of the Rings released by a different studio.
Didn't even have fucking Gimli or Legolas in it.
>>48063301
Oh dear.
You think it'd be possible to faithfully adapt the books at all?
>>48063247
That one concession was completely unnecessary. Imagine how much more threatening the Thenns could've been if they were presented as the one clan of wildlings that were organized and disciplined in any circumstance.
One of the most facinating aspects of Mance's army was how multicultured it was. In the show we're told it is so again and again, but they never show it in any convincing way.
>>48063354
You can certainly get much, much closer to adapting Lord of the Rings or ASOIAF than existing attempts.
But can you imagine how long such a movie/show would be? An entire season of Game of Thrones wouldn't even get through the first half of the actual Game of Thrones novel.
>>48063357
Yeah, I know.
There's another thing, Mance. They burn him for realsies on the show, but in the books it turns out that Melly pulled the old switcheroo and House Burglar is still around.
Rolled 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6 = 39 (7d6)
>>48050199
>The North
>Fuck all Law, Population, Power or Wealth
>But HUGE tracts of land
>>48040424
Well then a completely different story with completely equal betrayals and shockers would happen to most of the same cast of people. What world do you think we're discussing exactly? The game must still be played
>>48063434
Good defenses with, almost certainly, a castle, along with a few other strong points. Roads and rivers provide easy transportation. Alternatively, natural terrain features, such as mountains or swamps, provide additional fortification.
Now roll 7d6 for influence.
>>48063433
To be fair, ASOIAF suffers from a glut of characters and sideplots and minor events of little consequence that left unanswered questions.
The show does a hit-or-miss job in dealing with this, but I do feel that Mance's actual death at the wall was preferable to him being for-some-reason spared so he could go and sneak into Winterfell and do sneaky hitman shit instead of leading his people.
Lots of convoluted shit needed to be cut. And even then a lot of people still have trouble keeping track of the cast.
"Wait, Myrcella? Who was that? What happened to that skinny kid that was breastfeeding? Who the fuck is Lancel, why does Cersei act like she knows him?"
These from people who have watched every episode.
>>48063553
>These from people who have watched every episode.
Oh. I just put that down to the rest of my family not being as into it as me.
>>48063612
I don't know if I've just always paid more attention to detail than the average person, or what. But most all of my friends who tune in every week won't be able to go through a single episode without having to ask either what's going on or a question about who someone is.
During the finale my best friend since like first grade couldn't recall who the fuck Kevan Lannister was.
>>48063684
>During the finale my best friend since like first grade couldn't recall who the fuck Kevan Lannister was.
Heh, meanwhile I can reel off the names of most of Tywin's bannermen, and most of their heraldry to boot. Everyone just stares at me.
>>48062706
Being better than previous season is no achievement given how fucking awful the previous one was
>>48063975
The fuck did they do to Dorne ?!
>>48061663
Armor is fucking retarded.
You can have dudes literally wade through hordes of enemies without taking damage.
There's no fucking way Bronn would've ever won by the rules.
>>48064063
It's quite simple. The Dorne arc in the books was somewhat misliked because of GRRM realizing that Oberyn was far more popular than he'd thought he would be, so he tried to cash in on it with an arc that ended up not really going anywhere.
Presumably D&D thought that they'd try and avoid these mistakes by rejigging the storyline. Unfortunately, they made a load of all-new mistakes instead.
>>48064110
But anon. Dont you like bad pussy ?
>>48064171
Well, Bronn/Tyene is my new OTP, but I consider that poor recompense.
>>48064110
You mean like all the terrible characters getting all the screen time, completely gutting the sand snakes (Turning them into the sneks of bad pussy), and then unceremoniously murdering everyone who wasn't a sand snake, showing that they only got the idea to murder everyone after last season ended because they broke continuity THAT THEY VERY DELIBERATELY SET UP AND PUT INTO FOCUS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME to accomplish it?
Everything about show-dorne was terrible, at least book Dorne was just slightly less fun than other things which were going on, and was mainly marred by its connection to the Dany plot which nobody liked.
>>48064197
>>48064192
>We will avenge our father Oberyn Martell and restore the Martell family's honour by murdering the Martell family!
>>48064197
Hey, you're not going to get any argument from me.
The only good things we got out of that are Tyene's tits.
>>48064226
As mighty fine those tits werealmost saving the seasoneverything else was shit. I still cringe when it comes to that fight in the watergarden
>>48064244
Yeah. Plus the terrible underutilization of Alexander Siddig.
>>48064275
Atleast we got to see Olenna put them in their place. Atleast something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF3pLjxaHaM
