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Witches > all other spellcasters
>>48018624
I concur.
>>48018624
What makes a witch better than the other spellcasters?
>>48018624
Those are stupid whores, not witches.
>>48018759
>interesting sources of power often ripe for narratives
>cool name
>appeal to a diverse demographic of characters, ranging from crazy old hags to quirky teenagers
>Occult magic is cooler than STEM-style "well if we measure the phlebotinum in concordance with ley line integration equations we can create a rune of teleport!" shenanigans
>kickass fashion sense
>>48018983
Symbaroum has witches in it, and they're pretty powerful, or at least useful, though all the Mystic subclasses are powerful/utilitarian in their own right.
I agree, though, they have the best flavor, and Symbaroum doesn't disappoint in that regard.
lets all fear female sexuality
>>48019416
>>48019434
for real tho, whatever witches origins may be, i love what they have morphed into in a lot of media
>>48019451
I agree. post more witches. P.S. what are your favorite systems to play witches in?
>>48019471
>>48019524
Any system which doesn't use Vancian magic, really.
Not hating, I just don't have fun with it
>>48018624
Yes, but how do you KNOW she is a witch?
>>48019564
>>48019524
here's a good osr witch thing http://gloomtrain.blogspot.com/2016/06/deep-dungeon-fishing.html
>>48019589
>>48019606
>>48018983
>interesting sources of power often ripe for narratives
Like fucking with the devil to gain magical powers?
>>48019644
>>48019579
are they a lady? y/n
do they live innawoods? y/n
do they do magic? y/n
are they very scary/old? y/n
if you answered yes to one of those, 10% chance they a witch
yes to 2, 30%
yes to 3, 50%
yes to 4, she totally is a witch, deus definitely vult
>>48019657
Naturally.
Anyone with an ounce of creativity can turn that into a compelling or even tragic narrative
>>48019600
this is probably a witch
Witches best bitches.
>>48019848
>>48019869
Is that Scathach?
I love this game.
>>48019930
It's extremely good.
One of the best co-op experiences I've had in recent memory.
>>48019869
>>48019898
90% sure it's morrigan, celtic god of misfortune
>>48018624
I agree with the OP
>>48018759
they deliver the mail.
rather than throw potions at you.
>>48019524
GURPS, duh.
The only system that allows me to be witch-in-training, so having access to relatively low-power magic with proper counter-measures as the only magic for my character and countless secondary skills
>>48019657
Still better than "well if we measure the phlebotinum in concordance with ley line integration equations we can create a rune of teleport" bullshit
>>48019657
>Fucking with devil
>Making any form of pact with anything
>Rituals
>In-born powers
>Training to unlock your potential
>Invocations
>Intoxication
>Descendancy from mixed species
>Sold for servitude for fey or local stand-in
And so on and forth. And I'm not even trying to be creative here.
>>48021564
>Sold for servitude for fey or local stand-in
Stealin'
>>48018624
>Not just fucking the devil
>>48018624
>Witches > all other spellcasters
Truth.
Oh my god I love witches so much.
I love Witches. I play male Witch characters all the time.
>>48018624
>Zipper fly
The one on the left is packing heat
>>48022283
>male Witch
Is that even a thing? Sounds to me like an oxymoron
>>48022327
The Witch Men. My favorite character type. Typically have the same/similar powers to a Witch but are male. May represent a sort of leadership position or some kind of need to the mostly-female covens to balance out their mystic energy with masculine counterparts.
>>48021919
Who's that on the left? Can't say I recognise her. Sword Saint from Rokka maybe? That said, this is probably my favourite witch of all
>>48022327
>>48022336
Pretty sure that's literally a warlock
>>48022327
>Is that even a thing? Sounds to me like an oxymoron
Male witches are a thing, some people will call them warlocks instead. But that is not exactly correct.
>>48022345
Its Madoka. Come on man.
>>48022345
Looks like Modoka
>>48019682
Suwako is no witch,and not a very good 2hu either
>>48022327
I get the feeling we will see some trap witches very soon in this thread.
>>48022352
>>48022356
I meant right, the one bent over rather than Madoka who's doing it cowgirl
>>48022371
Learn your directions, nigga
Also might be this lass >>48014720
>>48022336
So kind of witch doctor... now that makes some sense
>>48022349
>>48022351
Warlock doesn't translate at all into my language, so from my perspective is a made-up term with zero meaning, a buzzword for character class that describes a magic user like every other.
I don't want this to come out as smug or condescending. I just like to point out how language barriers are fun at times.
>>48022385
Looks nothing like her.
>>48022403
The blue haired one.
>>48018624
>Witches > all other spellcasters
You say that like I don't know that feel every day of my life.
>>48022398
>Warlock doesn't translate at all into my language
If you go cross the languages it's usually just random soup of words meaning "magic user" paired with each other randomly and people just copying instead of translating.
Wizard is "wise man" which is also Sage and both are sometimes used for different types of magic users.
For example - in slavik languages we have vedma for witch and vedmyak for male witch, but then they call Geralt a Witcher instead of a Warlock.
>>48022407
Yes I got that you meant her and still nope.
Hell the doujin may be even older than that anime.
>>48022426
The closest thing warlock has as translation is "czarnoksiężnik", which literally means "blackbooker", or a guy using Black Book, in the context of "tome full of satanic stuff". You can see how little it has with some guy related with war and how detatched it is from witches.
Best thing - Polish doesn't even have any difference between warlock and sorceror (since mage is strictly reserved for "czarodziej", so a "spelldoer"), since both translate into the same word. And witch doctor is equal to shaman.
Imagine the mess when TTRPGs are translated into Polish.
>>48022398
>Warlock doesn't translate at all into my language, so from my perspective is a made-up term with zero meaning
From Wikipedia:
>The most commonly accepted etymology derives warlock from the Old English wǣrloga meaning "oathbreaker" or "deceiver"
Maybe you will find this interesting.
>I don't want this to come out as smug or condescending. I just like to point out how language barriers are fun at times.
Yeah languages are fun.
>>48022454
Just because warlock has "war" on it, doesnt mean they are some sort of war entities.
>>48022482
But think about it on purely semantic level. You have a word that has NOTHING to do with parts that makes it and given completely different meaning. You know, like certain Chinese characters that combine phonetic parts together, so at first glance you got a word that makes zero sense, but it's not the meaning of each character making the new one, but how they are read.
Post a witch to keep this at least vaguely on topic
>>48022470
>Not posting best girl
>>48022327
Witch doctor
>>48022545
At least redhead sorta existed, but is black some kind of teleporter? Watch her hips.
>>48022545
>Posting that floozy rather then actual best girl
>>48022577
They both sprout out of nowhere, it's just how the gif is trimmed - literally three frames earlier the redhead also wasn't there.
>>48022597
>Implying I consider Diana best girl
>Implying I didn't need just a smug gif
>Implying anyone is even half as good as Amanda
>>48022371
It's probably someone from precure or something
>>48018759
they are cute (well hopefully)
what an amazing thread OP
unfortunately, it's incorrect, and if you weren't a cum guzzling bottom feeder you'd know what the actual best spellcaster is
>>48022629
Sure, keep trying to delude yourself.
>>48022652
Let's solve it like this - Sucy was best before The Enchanted Parade became a thing.
Now she's second best and you are the one deluded.
>>48021919
>Meduka
>Precure
Why do I find this funny when it is actually terrible?
>>48022652
>>48022661
Sucy is always best girl
these are some funny looking and sounding necromancers
>>48022684
>Alchemy +1
>Not +10
>>48022709
Why she looks like she was straight from a cheap porn?
>>48022667
Terrible how.
>>48022730
Whine more.
>>48021919
Is that really a precure? Fuck it, I'm gonna go find the doujin
>>48022768
>Posting sluts with spiky hats
>Not classy witches
Pleb detected
>>48022795
Spiky hats are the best though.
>>48022805
Yeah, but not when they are put on literal whores
>>48022795
>that
>classy
Get better taste.
The best witches all have
>Long, black hair
>Blue or green eyes
Prove me wrong.
>>48022811
Who said it's classy?
But it's still better than those sluts above
>>48022819
>Not redheads
>>48022827
>its the /tg/ becomes butthurt over anything being even slightly sexual episode
Nice
>>48022819
>>48022835
>Not white-haired
>>48022360
Suwako is a burger witch.
>>48022835
>Actually liking redheads
>>48022839
>Slightly
>>48022858
>actually not liking redheads
>>48022861
>more tears
![BWitch_p05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IUXMk4j.jpg "BWitch_p05[1].jpg")
>>48022789
Motherfucker, I've already read this and it hasn't been character tagged correctly.
>>48022867
Look man, nobody is judging, but pretendint it's not sexual pandering ramped up to eleven is either pure stupidity, delusion or insecurity about own taste
>>48022866
You're entitled to your subjective opinion and I respect that.
You're wrong though.
>>48022858
>>48022874
>There are people out there who don't like redheads
>>48022874
I am entitled to my objective statement of fact, and am completely right about everything.
Witches a best female casters
>wizards are dorks
>druids are sluts
>clerics are double sluts who don't even put out
>sorcerers are arrogant and they all have RBF
>>48022873
I would have been just content with just posting but hey, some people just cant take it.
>>48022897
Necrophiliacs.
Why do people bury corpses in settings where undead are confirmed to exist?
Even if it's a religious thing, religious customs aren't just random arbitrary things, they always have a purpose behind them, but burying a corpse instead of burning it seems to have no benefit whatsoever.
>>48022900
>I would have been just content if people stop judging my shit taste
Here, FTFY
>>48022907
I meant to start a thread, but that's a silly answer.
>>48022917
and now I screwed up again, ah well.
>>48019416
>lets all fear female sexuality
OK, if you say so...?
>>48022926
Point proven.
>>48022931
You're silly.
>>48022935
Men fear female sexuality, women fear male sexuality. Duh.
>>48022327
Yep.
Witch is more or less gender neutral, really.
Icelandc witches who got torched during the 16th-17th century witch trials were almost exclusively male, if I remember correctly.
Women couldn't into witchcraft.
>>48022899
>>sorcerers are arrogant and they all have RBF
RBF = Robotic Boy Friends?
>>48022982
Resting Bitch Face
>>48022948
>Men fear female sexuality, women fear male sexuality. Duh.
Hunh. I didn't know that. Guess I've got some catching up to do.
>>48022989
It's ingrained deep within and shows through many cultures, even our own. It just isn't as obvious as "haaah, get that vagina/dick outta my face wo/man!"
>>48023002
I don't see what's so scary about it though.
How dangerous can a boob be?
It's not like I'll ever have sex anyway.
Pyromancer here, you guys are okay.
>>48023002
>broad statements with no evidence
Stop baiting.
>>48022789
Precure doesn't appear except for that page. It's Little Witch Academia doujin. Title is in the filename of the crop if you're interested anyway, though.
>>48023128
>muh women must be pure and chaste
>muh women have to spend their periods secluded because that's IMPURE
>men are all rapists
>eww guys are such creeps
There's plenty of evidence all around.
>>48022958
>witch trials
I find it hilarious that by actual religious dogma believing that witches existed at all was by itself heresy.
>>48023136
Yeah, I found it. I'm like 90% sure that's Nashetanya from Rokka but it could be a precure. I'm not sure
>>48023144
>Taking what massive fucking retards say and applying it to the general population
Yeah, if you are a dirty gipsy I suppose.
What are some good witch spells/base for creating them?
>>48023250
>Witches
>Spells
>>48023286
Yes.
Spells, curses, hexes, incantation, meme msgic, whatever.
The PF witch class is a ton of fun, and the Iconic for the class is pretty cool.
>>48021476
Whats wrong with that? I have a wizard charachter whose entire motivation is to rationalise magic to a point where that's possible.
>>48023393
>ton of fun
It's just absurdly and boringly powerful, even for a caster in 3.PF
>>48023487
Magic by default is irrational and against rules.
>>48023792
And before you jump to any conclusions:
By "irrational" I mean the fact a guy or chick just waved their hands and shit materialised out of nowhere. That's anything, but rational, even if there are some rules to govern it.
>>48023792
Except you're wrong. Magic has always had rules. From the rules of social engagement with the spirits of the world in Shamanism, to the mechanical effects within Hermeticism there have been specific and extensive rules about how things work.
It's just that none of it actually works in our universe. If it did, we would look an awful lot like a D&D universe.
>>48023806
How do you know its irrational and not a perfectly rational thing with extensive rules about how and why it works within that universe? Because stuff like that doesn't happen in our universe?
>>48023843
>Rationalising magic
Not him, but congratu-fucking-lations, you just turned magic into applied physics, robbing it from anything that made it special, mystical or interesting.
And then people wonder why "we can make equation for that teleporter to work" is wrong.
>>48022684
Don't forget that her mom is a literal semen demon
>>48023873
Sucy/Sucy's mom /ll/ when
>>48023871
I keep seeing this weird, utterly ahistorical take on magic and I'm trying to understand what you mean by keeping it "special, mystical or interesting".
Spell it out in more detail instead of just saying to keep it "magical" because I really don't get what you mean by keeping it mystical or special or interesting by not having it subject to a tool of learning that inevitably gets used for any form of phenomena in the world.
From my perspective it's like you want to eat your cake and keep it.
>>48023963
Give it time for the series to actually air.
>>48023966
>Spell it out in more detail
Magic is magic. You want applied physics. If you can't see the difference, I've got a clue for you - playing any form of caster other than wizard is not for you.
>>48023966
>what you mean by keeping it "special, mystical or interesting"
Not him, but how about this:
- not being strictly limited with application
- not being Vancian/D&D bullshit
- pact magic means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
- ritual magic means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
- any form of invocative magic that requires third party means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
Magic that is just about memorised spells is simply boring, just like that. It's boring, because there is no substance in it and nothing to do. You just know the spell and cast it ad infinitum or until it gets too boring to use. It also emplys the "everything is a nail" mentality, so you can only use specific spell for specific task, thus any form of creativity is already killed in the seed.
And what's mystical about memorising shitload of rules? Wow, turns out magic is just high-tier quantum physics that SOMEHOW you can apply to reality by waving hands. Where is mysticism in that? It's all explained, thus there is no mystery left.
>>48018624
I love witches. So much flavor, folklore, character. And the whole idea of subversive spell casting is wonderful. I've been playing with the same witch for 2 years now and she's a blast.
>ITT: upstart apprentice new age witches with impractical clothing, overblown theatricality, and without a lick of sense
Next they'll suggest dancing naked in a forest or some nonsense
>>48024179
Fuck you lady, witches were an excuse for young girls to be lesbians but no homo though.
>>48024179
Get fucked, old fart. Best magic is the one with biggest explosions.
>>48018624
Witches ain't shit but hocus-pocus and tricks
>>48024009
If it exists, people will make a science out of it. Even if your magic is wild and mysterious and so on, SOMEONE will try to categorize it, write it down into books and teach it to people.
Like people DID. For example, much of what we know about medieval witchcraft and demonology etc was written down by church officials after interrogating alleged witches and warlocks and put down as neat little step-by-step instructions to drawing protection circles and summoning demons.
And you suggest that if magic literally existed and some people could throw fireballs with their mind, nobody would try to rationalize and categorize that shit somehow? Try and figure out how it works and what laws of the universe are at play?
>>48024259
>If it exists, people will make a science out of it
Have you ever heard about world BEFORE scientific principle became a thing?
I doubt it.
>>48024207
Granny: Triggered
Nanny: Approves
Magritt: Confused and intrigued
>>48024060
>what you mean by keeping it "special, mystical or interesting"
>Not him, but how about this:
>- not being strictly limited with application
need an explination there, keep in mind that balance is nessisary for anything other than freeform roleplaying. keep in mind that is a portion of our hobby and not even close to all of it.
>- not being Vancian/D&D bullshit
I agree fully here.
>- pact magic means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
Last time i checked yes, yes they do, hense the pact portion of the pact magic. Might not be mechanics, but chances are those exist too, like what kind of thing you can pact with for at the least vaguely about how much power you can expect from any given pact.
>- ritual magic means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
same with pact magic. rituals have rules that's what makes them rituals and not random acts of flailing and screaming. same with pact magic, you'd need to define what a ritual can let you do, or again you're advocating freeform rp and not a magic system. hell even freeform tends to have some rules.
>- any form of invocative magic that requires third party means rules don't need to apply to anything at all
Not even sure what you're saying here, but I am pretty sure that my previous points still stand.
I'm up for loose magic systems, but even those have rules. Because without rules, we don't really have a game. They're also especially necessary if we're going for anything less than playing gods/everyone is magic. Because non-magic characters, or those that do not deal with magical entities are fuck out of luck otherwise.
>>48024259
>I don't understand what "science" even means: The Post
>>48024304
>Because non-magic characters, or those that do not deal with magical entities are fuck out of luck otherwise.
Well shit son, how about this - there are dozens of games that don't even try to pretend you can balance things out and nobody is complaining.
>>48024009
>Magic is magic
What the fuck does this mean? Seriously, you spouting off tautologies and I'm trying to get you to actually explain yourself. Or, do you not even actually know what your talking about?
Do have some simplistic set of categories about how these things work, that one is science, which has explanations, and the other is magic, which has no explanations?
>>48024060
My advice, if you want mystery in your magic, is don't play a spell caster. It's literally that simple. There is a saying perfect for this, "Familiarity breeds contempt". Being familiar with a subject, such as magic rituals and such, would remove all of that mystery. You want something that is impossible for any game system to have within its spell casting rules. You want mystery but there is nothing that would be able to keep it unknowable and not familiar.
As to ritual magic not having rules, please go look up the rules about casting hermetic spells. Real life actual spells, that do nothing, but the amount of rules goes utterly counter to what you want.
Invocative/pact magic is the same. Each being that is called has things they like and don't like, tasks that must be completed and preferences that must be realised in order for them to help you.
That reply really shows that whats at the heart of this idea is flexibility and freedom. Unfortunately all magic has rules. All of it. You cannot escape this reality of how it works without making it utter chaos that only a crazy person would use.
>>48024304
Your points are worth nothing, for a simple reason.
NOTHING obligates the other side of the bargain, be it a pact, a ritual, invocation or whatever else, to uphold the deal.
They can simply give you shit, while taking it all. Or not listen you your plea, beacause they feel like it. Or don't feel like it.
>>48024289
Kek
>>48024295
Sick bantz, superb use of memes, subtle use of smug, looks like I'm BTFO.
>>48024333
>Please go back to rules
What setting?
What system?
What rules?
Or we are suddenly speaking about some very specific game that wasn't mentioned even once, but in your utter stupidity you posted about it, while assuming everyone is talking about exactly the same shit as you?
>>48024365
Don't you know being subtle is for pussies
ITT: Autists arguing about nature of magic
Can we get back to at least posting cute witches?
>>48024348
And the other points you're not even touching on? Like the idea that said things do require rules, else I'm going to become a god by making a pact with this brick I found. Might be loose rules, but they be rules.
>>48024330
I like how you're saying nobody is complaining to someone who is complaining. (you're welcome for the free I'm nobody quip if you'd like to take it)
And I'd like to meet the person who plays a mechless soldier with a bow an arrow in an A Time of War battletech game.
>They're also especially necessary if we're going for anything less than playing gods/everyone is magic. Because non-magic characters, or those that do not deal with magical entities are fuck out of luck otherwise.
Are we playing anything but everyone is magic/gods anon? Are we? Are we playing something where a normal person shouldn't be a member of the party?
>>48024441
>>48024441
I can try
>almost posted an extremely pregnant loli witch
Damn thumbnails
>>48024476
I mean you still can post that if you want.
![e7a90b39b98b23c843e579ded45dcb63[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RaGwdQv.png "e7a90b39b98b23c843e579ded45dcb63[1].png")
>>48024491
Anon, please
>>48018624
Witches with glasses are shit tho.
>>48019930
Too bad the charadesign is so shitty.
At least we got a few good doujins/rule34 out of it i guess.
>>48023191
>the general population isn't a bunch of massive fucking retards
>>48024348
And then the being loses out on whatever sacrifices it got out of the deal as the caster spreads this knowledge to others. Seriously, these were mutually beneficial systems very much like striking a deal with your neighbor down the road. In addition, they often had their own hierarchies where you could appeal to a higher entity to enforce the bargain.
>>48024379
Im mostly talking real life magical systems and vaguely referencing the mechanics that go into making a game based spell casting system. That picture I posted is from the Rosicrucians. You can't escape rules, especially in something that is a Role playing Game. That last part is kind of important when it comes to formulating how magic interacts within the system, and will have rules that limit its power and define it thematic boundaries.
>>48024441
Heres another PF witch to tweak the haters. This one is descended from Baba Yaga.
>>48024512
I could say the same thing.
>>48024582
>This one is descended from Baba Yaga.
Ahh the classic and extremely lazy/jrpg way of saying someone be powerful. Is she also related to Vlad Tepes?
>>48018624
>Witches > all other spellcasters
I can't disagree
>>48024582
>And then the being loses out on whatever sacrifices it got out of the deal as the caster spreads this knowledge to others
>Implying the caster is still alive
Naive morons like you make a perfect fodder for all kinds and types of "things from beyond". Why would some creature being interested in folding to your demands, when it can simply take what it wants, get rid of you and rake extra profit out of it.
It's like you never heard how extortion works.
>>48022327
>>male Witch
>Is that even a thing? Sounds to me like an oxymoron
IS THIS NIGGER FUCKING SERIOUS
![c84b0b1e402bdd455866f15a1839ba17[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/O9BwuCY.jpg "c84b0b1e402bdd455866f15a1839ba17[1].png")
>>48024606
It's not hard to find that sort of thing on your own
>>48024632
Jeannie is best magic user.or would wish granting entities be considered different.
>>48024582
>Naive morons summons a demon
>The demon proceeds with ripping the moron to shreds
>Other naive morons assume that's because the ritual was wrongly performed
>Another demon tears another guy apart
>They are still trying anyway, because there is a science for this
This type of delusion is pretty much the driving force behind cults and cultists in Call of Cthulhu. Magic is real, pacts are real, summoning is real... only that the summoned creature is not obligated in ANY way to listen to anyone or uphold any form of pact.
>>48024706
>Male witch
>Posts witcher
Words cannot describe how fucking stupid you are. And this comes from a Pole
>>48024738
THE WORD WITCHER DESCRIBES A MALE WITCH.
HOLY SHIT, NIGGA, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
>>48024582
How about this, you stupid shit: the summon wasn't interested in anything at all and it was literally dragged by some autist from his dimension to another.
Long story short, your "reasoning" works only in specific situation.
>>48024721
I think wish-granters work differently. And Samantha Stevens is best girl
>great mom
>supportive
>cute way to cast spells
>probably a literal semen demon
I'd be worth Endora fucking with you once in a while
>>48024616
God no. Baba Yaga is an epic level caster who flits about the multiverse. The Queen of Witches, Baba Yaga invaded Golarion from another world (Earth, literally) in 3313 AR, making war on the Lands of the Linnorm Kings. Within 23 days, the Winter War was over and Baba Yaga established her realm of Irrisen. She also had a grandson on Earth named Rasputin.
>>48024752
Have you ever heard about neologisms? Or made-up words? Witchers has nothing to do with witches. Especially when it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in Polish - the "wiedźm" part is from "wiedźma", a fucking hag, not a witch.
>>48024773
And I forget the image. Her official appearance within Pathfinder.
>>48021464
I loved that show on Netflix. I want more.
>>48024773
>>48024799
Cool, a generic looking hag with significantly shittier descendants than the actual legend (satan being an example depending on what you're reading, though others do vaguely or casually off hand a nod to a granddaughter who may or may not be called Marinka or some such.
>>48024840
You will get it. They just announced a full series of it.
>>48022349
>>48022351
Witches can be male. Warlocks are either clergymen who have sold out to the devil for power or witches who have betrayed their covens.
>>48022482
>>48022516
That's because it's Scottish which makes no sense even in it's own tongue.
>>48024752
>Witcher is a male witch, because it has "witch" in it
I guess warlock is a guy that locks wars
>>48024721
This I do disagree with.
Not that they're not both great.
But Sam's intelligence, independence, and wit were very alluring and make her the best.
>>48018624
Odd way to spell Cleric
>>48024949
>>48018624
Our GM let my wife ( who only played PF as a ranger for 4 sessions before) play a witch.
In a month, GM needed to throw some preaty heavy shit at us so our witch would have a chalenge.
>>48024927
Hey now, which Scottish language we talking about here? Because one of them is literally middle english with a slur.
>>48022604
I know as far as characterisation and design go, it's more then likely just a coincidence but I sware she was based onSunset from the Equestria Girls films
Witches enable Witch-hunters.
I am now going to post Witch-hunters.
>>48025067
>>48023843
>>48023966
Right.
The key point you're missing is that magic is literally (and I mean that in every sense of the word) a plot device. What rules it has are arbitrarily applied for the sake of story. The whole /tg/ requirement of "the scientific method applies to magic" is equally an arbitrary rule.
The truth of the matter is that there are numerous instances in books where magic follows nonsensical 'rules' that aren't even rules. As uch as people hate Potterverse Magic, that is realistically the closest to actua magic that there is - it has SOME rules which can be followed, but the only real magic, the only truly powerful magics, have no rules and are actually created by the caster from whole cloth. Magic in the Potterverse, in the Zelazney Changeling worlds, the Tarot series, Mercede's world of Valdemar, the Riftwar Saga by Feist (at least partially), and Witch World created by Andre Norton as wel as the Time of the Dark and the Windrose Chronicles by Barbera Hambly all have very intensely personal magic. Magic in those worlds is far more dependant on the will and the abilities and the talents of the person using them. scientific method doesn't work in those worlds, because each person's take and abilities with magic are unique and therefore impossible to duplicate by others. Oh, you can get an idea of how to use magic from others, and be guided through the basics, even including scholastically approaching it, but in the end you cannot teach the truly powerful magics that supposedly would be gained through scientific methodology, because magic simply doesn't work that way. It comes from within, or without, and is guided by the individual into the effects they desire.
In other words, /tg/'s "magic must be scientific" is a load of bullshit.
>>48025094
>>48024860
The word you failed to use there was "archetypal", not "generic".
>>48025378
Ok, got me there archetypal grammar man. Give me your address and I'll mail you $5 (I found it on the street and it's missing a a corner).
>>48025067
To think about it, wouldn't mages themselves make best witch-hunters? In most settings, mages form a very closed circle, so it would be strange to outsource hunting rogue or unsanctioned magic users to some religious institution. Apart from that, a mage/witch-hunter could make good use of artifacts and tomes found in witch's lair, not destroy them.
>>48024840
What show?
>>48025327
>>48025458
>>48022385
In art, at least where I'm from, directions are determined as if you were inside the picture and were watching toward the viewer. That's weird as fuck but heh.
>>48025480
>>48025057
The guy behind Little Witch Academiais a brony, so go figure
>>48025067
>>48025094
>>48025327
>>48025410
>>48025458
>>48025480
>>48025494
Would you kindly fuck off from this thread?
>>48025273
>actual magic
>>48025410
In most cases the witch vs witch-hunter conflict is actually just a war between religions (usual not!Pagan vs not!Christian). Spellcasters do not outsource to religious institutions, religious institutions sanction those spellcasters that they like or accept.
>>48022917
In MtG, the people of the plane of Innistrad (which is full of necroamncers) don't systematically burn corpses because the spirits of the burned people return as angry arsonists ghosts.
>>48025273
>2016
>There are still people amazed by the well known fact /tg/ is populated by bunch of autists that need to explain and rationalise everything
But you are right about everything else.
Why do all the best threads happen when I'm away from my pictures? Anyhoo, there's a fantastic witch class in the Clockwork and Chivalry game based on the classic Christian perception of witchcraft. But it can easily be refluffed to fit just about any other non-Satanic flavor of conjury.
>>48022819
No, because the best witch (pictured) has short, orange hair
>>48025553
Myths and legends of this world=actual magic anon.
Pathetic rebuttal.
>>48025409
Well, it's not so much a grammar issue as the fact that Baba Yaga is really the first hag-witch and therefore the hag look is generic now because of her being the archetype.
>>48022819
>>48022835 This. The best witch has short orange hair.
>>48025057
it might be possible. I'm not really sure when the shows were developed, but we do know that some design elements of The Unnameable did influence LWA. A certain nature-lover's hairstyle influenced Sucy's hair, for example.
>>48025762
Except I'm clearly being a cunt at this point, and that image lacks quite a few quintessential elements of the yaga, hence the generic.
But seriously where am I mailing this $4?
>>48025856
Ms. Peregrine's House for Peculiar Children.
>>48025834
>>48025505
>>48025057
Please stop trying to ruin LWA
>>48025870
Are you triggered because someone likes something you don't like? If that ruins it for you then you should probably just watch the show. Whatever inspired some of the designs doesn't change how it ended up working out. Everyone has some inspiration for what they make.
>>48025870
I'm pretty sure they admitted it themselves you dumb nigger. Imaishi fucking loves cartoons. Quit being triggered by little girls' cartoons and grow the fuck up.
>>48025869
Don't know where that is, but that's the post's job isn't it?
>>48024308
The literal, textbook definition of the root word "science" is knowledge. Prescience? Knowledge of something beforehand. Omniscience? Knowledge of everything.
>>48025870
>404girl
Wait a minute, this is bait isn't it
>>48025870
What's your problem, bud? LWA is great, that's all I care. Knowing who the guy behind it is is just a thing I know, that's all. I couldn't care less about it.
On a similar note, how do you define
>witch
>wizard
>mage
>sorcerer
>warlock
>>48026046
Witches have witch hats.
The others don't.
>>48026046
>Witch
A woman Wizard
>Wizard
A spellcaster who went to school
>Mage
Generic term for spellcasters
>Sorcerer
A spellcaster who dropped out of school
>Warlock
A spellcaster who signed a contract
Next question!
>>48026046
>witch
Does old magic out in the boonies, usually herbal/cunning shit on the side.
>wizard
Learned caster
>mage
Generic term
>sorcerer
Fuck if they know what they're doing
>warlock
Male witch
>>48025273
Thanks anon.
I think I'll be using this as copypasta later.
>>48022819
Nope.
>>48025939
>calling Yotsuba "404 girl"
>>48026117
I'd snap that waist in half like a twig if you know what I mean.
>>48026170
that was my point, I was quoting his filenamedid I just get baited again
>witches being cute popular girls
>not scorned women cast out of a brutal society and forced to turn to the quiet dark places of the world for sanctuary
>not investing their anger into deals for power with creatures more ancient and terrible than you could imagine
>not being feared and respected by the society that so hated them before
>>48026189
You're too easy, anon
>>48026170
I'm pretty sure that was his point
>filename
>>48026206
>scorned women cast out of a brutal society and forced to turn to the quiet dark places of the world for sanctuary
Nothing about that also says they can't be cute, Anon!
>>48026206
>Why people don't like playing with edgy teens: The Post
>>48026273
I dunno, I think that edgy teens are more likely to play a generic animu fapbait witch than a Jules Michelet style one.
>>48026046
>>witch
Wielder of natural magic, knowledge passed down, sometimes related to blood lines, usually female, occasional elements of corruption
>>wizard
Student of magic, learns magic through study therefore is "science" magic, may or may not require talents depending on setting, knowledge is power
>>mage
Magic user, typically one with a talent ie: "magery"
>>sorcerer
One who has gained magical power through shortcuts rather than study either through demonic pact, magic in the blood, or wild surges; often more powerful but less controlled
>>warlock
Never seen a suitable definition of this, my personal definition of a warlock is a magic user who wields magic like a badass Christopher Walken
>>48025740
No, that's not actual magic, those are just actual stories with imaginary magic in them.
Actual magic is stuff like pulling rabbits out of hats and making old women think they are hypnotized.
>>48026381
Pretty sure a warlock is a corrupt cleric to an evil god, usually demonists.
>>48026273
>edgy
War is edgy. Dark Ages were edgy. What happened to "real" witches was edgy. World and history are fucking edgy.
Apart from that, scenario presented by >>48026206 would be much more plausible. People to this day tend to fear and resent what they don't understand. Also, despite a lot of denial, men tend to fear women wielding power. Magic is the very epitome of power, so in a society led by men witches would be prosecuted to hell and back.
>>48026381
I always interpreted sorcerers as people born who naturally know how to use magic without any training or through experimentation and self-lerning.
Warlocks are mages who decided to enhance their abilities through making deals with some kind of higher power, be it a demon or a dark god, OR mages who use more powerful, but "dark", "evil", or in any way prohibited magic.
Why bother argue about definitions when the Wizard of Earthsea already has the best magic ever made?
>>48026428
Actually, actual magic is mysterious.
Both descriptions fit.
If your uncle can make coins appear out of thin air? Magic.
If there are documented accounts of levitation long ago? Magic.
If a girl can acquire fawning attention and liquor by mashing together lumps of fatty tissue over their ribcage? Magic.
>>48022327
Who cares, post witchboys
>>48026488
I don't think that >>48026273 was necessarily dismissing edginess in itself. Their post was
>Why people don't like playing with edgy teens: The Post
so their actual objection was to "edgy teens."
I think what plenty of people get annoyed at how "edgy teens" are frequently contrarian in how they apply edginess, in that they immediately dismiss anything that is not edgy in favor of something that is. In this example, the way that one user moves to dismiss "witches being cute popular girls" in favor of hated outcasts may have been seen as a good example of this "everything must be dark and realistic" outlook. It represents not just a commitment to what happened in the real world, or what's more plausible, but also an implicit rejection of everything else categorically. In a TRPG, this can be kind of tyrannical, especially if a person like this is the GM, because they'll throw out the tonal concept for your cute animu witch without thinking twice and introduce the supposedly "realistic" consequences, i.e., persecution, fear of feminine power, etc., even when that kind of thing was unwanted on the part of the player.
So, pointing out that what may be seen as "edgy" is "more realistic" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the objection against "edgy teens," or more broadly the objection against tonal tyranny. That's just what I'm reading here.
>>48026488
>would be much more plausible.
What game and setting are we talking here?
Oh, right, you didn't specify, but your Imaginary Game In Your Head follows the rules you created for it.
>>48026565
>I always interpreted sorcerers as people born who naturally know how to use magic without any training or through experimentation and self-lerning.
Yeah, that's kinda what meant, with bloodlines, but I failed to include just being born with it inexplicably
>Warlocks are mages who decided to enhance their abilities through making deals with some kind of higher power, be it a demon or a dark god, OR mages who use more powerful, but "dark", "evil", or in any way prohibited magic
Well, a Warlock is technically a "‘traitor, scoundrel, monster,’ also ‘the Devil,’"
So that works, as does >>48026432
Just never seen anything definitive.
It sounds like a subjective term to me, like "bad magic user"
