Welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
Check out the pastebin for story, technologies, stats etc
http://pastebin.com/t7gWa2pa
And an archive of previous threads if you want to skim through some of them.
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.tg/subject/Civ/username/Civ%20bulgar/page/1/
Previously on Tundra civ:
Technology has progressed to a level roughly equivalent of Earth's early 1980s. A major international crisis occured when the Pajashian archipelago rebelled from the NPU and became a host of terrorists and pirates - swift action came from the White Republic. Intense aerial campaigns eventually led to our forces securing what was left from the archipelago, devastated by a variety of modern weaponry. The crisis only deepend when the Republic announced it will not be returning the islands to their original owner, the NPU.
The election of the Veitan Congressman Rog Boul as president in 1219 led to an improvement in international trade and a reduction in tensions as our military presence in the Paj Ocean was limited.
It is now the year 1221 After the Exile.
>Population:185 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 100 000 Eyerdar 16 700 000 Veita 17 700 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:8/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:8/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
Learning to use Photoshop now. Here's a really rough map of the Paj Ocean to give an idea of positioning, since it's an area not covered in the world map.
When I start my fantasy civ quest on /qst/ sometime in the near future I'll be using Photoshop for maps and shit probably.
I've got a concept for the world and its continents and most of the starting lore and races, now I need to figure out how to make the mechanics I have planned - while in Tundra civ players sort of take the role of the ruling senators of the nation and such, the fantasy civ would have players be members/leaders of various factions within our civilization that can work together or against each other, vying for prestige, influence, wealth and jointly guiding the civilization's progression.
>>48009033
>E.Improve navy
>>48009336
>>E.Improve navy
When would you be starting this? I am most interested in participating.
>>48009587
Once Tundra civ is done, so probably before the summer's end.
We'll be investing more money into our navy, but how shall we direct that?
A.Focus on keeping our equipment up-to-date and our forces ready
B.Expand our fleets and the technology we employ(higher spending)
C.Undergo great naval reforms to secure our naval superiority, building ships and navy bases(greatest expense)
>>48009653
>B.Expand our fleets and the technology we employ(higher spending)
>>48009653
>C.Undergo great naval reforms to secure our naval superiority, building ships and navy bases(greatest expense)
The economy will recover and our strength will remain.
>>48009653
>C.Undergo great naval reforms to secure our naval superiority, building ships and navy bases(greatest expense)
Go big or go home
We've expanded the Navy's budget, commisioning the construction of more ships - our navy must now have at least 10 operational aircraft carriers. We've introduced more modern technology and have begun developing stealth technology for our ships and submarines based on the stealth subs the Spirelords used in the war.
In other news, the Axis Space Station is now operational and in low orbit around Terra Nova!
>Population:186 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 300 000 Eyerdar 16 900 000 Veita 17 800 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:8/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:8/10
>Treasury:6/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48009839
>>A.Improve economy
>>48009839
A. Improve our economy
>>48009839
>>A.Improve economy
>>48009839
>>A. Improve economy
Our budget has a very small surplus right now, military and R&D spending has been rather high recently.
What should we focus our economic efforts on now?
A.Further implementation of technologies into various industries
B.Focus on trade & infrastructure
C.Attempt a major expansion of government industries and revenue sources
D.Raise taxes to increase revenue
E.Lower taxes to increase growth
F.Other
>>48010048
>A.Further implementation of technologies into various industries
>>48010048
>A.Further implementation of technologies into various industries
Rolled 59, 88 = 147 (2d100)
The technocrats won a lot of seats in the midterm elections in 1222 for Congress and Council, allowing them to pass the General Technological Advancment bill - the government gives interest-free loans to companies that purchase production-boosting industrial equipment and such.
Rolling for internal development(1) and external development(2)
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 700 000 Eyerdar 17 200 000 Veita 18 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:10/10
>Treasury:7/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
The discovery of new oil deposits in Veita and Aymsland and a generally positive economic development have given more opportunities to our national industries. President Boul has negotiated better trade deals and we're now in a net trade surplus towards the rest of the world. Population growth is still riding the post-war baby boom.
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 300 000 Eyerdar 16 900 000 Veita 17 800 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:10/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48010339
Ah shit, the top stats are the accurate ones.
Have a picture of a school computer lab.
>>48010339
>>B.Culture & Religion
>>48010339
B.
We can hold a world cup.
How would you like to steer the course of our people's cultural development?
PICK UP TO TWO
A.Support the arts
B.State propaganda
C.Religion
D.A new wonder
E.Education
F.Sports
G.Events
>>48010430
>F.Sports
A.Support the arts
>>48010430
B and F
Sports and propaganda to show we're the best in the world
>>48010463
Agreed
>>48010430
A and F
>>48010463
This
>>48010430
Bulgar can you give us a idea what events do?
>>48010430
A and D
>>48010511
I was thinking of having sports be more of a development inside our nation and events be externally oriented - world cups etc. or whatever ideas you can give me
>>48010430
B and G
>>48010533
If that the case I think most people want a world cup with the sports
>>48010548
Olympics man
>>48010554
You got the right idea, with the Olympics we can beat everyone in every sports.
>>48010578
The glory will be outstanding
Sports and tournaments and also propaganda :DD
The revival of the Grand Tournament has been announced - a great festival of sports competitions in which all nations across the world participate. Traditionally the main focus has been martial sports. The new tournament will include a wider variety of disciplines from athletic and non-athletic fields as well.
The next Summer Tournament will take place in one year - 1224 - Victory City will be the host and our sports teams will aim to live up to the name!
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 700 000 Eyerdar 17 200 000 Veita 18 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:10/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:9/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48010772
>>C.Construction
Splash out on decking out Victory, make it the envy of the world as it converges on the city.
>>48010849
This make Victory City better than ever before.
>>48010772
>>G.Research & Development
Victory City was completely destroyed during the war, but has since been rebuilt and now stands as one of the greatest cities in the world once more, with high-rising skyscrapers and a modern infrastructure.
We've been investing in the city's development and it is now ready to welcome the world!
GT 1224 is almost upon us - give me 3 rolls and the average will determine how well it goes
Rolled 1 (1d100)
>>48011136
Rolled 88 (1d100)
>>48011136
>>48011169
fucking inky
Rolled 24 (1d100)
>>48011136
Rolled 36 (1d100)
37.66
The GT was going smoothly for two weeks until a series of terrorist attacks shocked the world. Athletes from Aymsland were attacked and held hostage and a transport jet was hijacked - the hijacked jet had to be shot down by our airforce, as it was not responding to hails and was on collision course with Victory City. The terrorists who attacked the athletes were eventually dealt with - they were survivors from the conquest of the Pajashian islands and their demands were the return of the archipelago to its natives.
The GT continued as normal after this crisis was dealt with, but the memory of it was soured.
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 700 000 Eyerdar 17 200 000 Veita 18 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:10/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48011431
H
Take care of terrorists, see if their is anymore in hiding and smoke them out.
>>48011431
>H. Diplomacy & War
Get the terrorists bomb them and their family to hell.
>>48011474
this
How shall we deal with this terrorist threat?
A.Tighten up security measures and work from there - anyone that tries something funny will get caught
B.Aggresively pursue any leads we have and attempt to destroy the terrorists at their root
C.Set the archipelago as a special administrative zone
D.Other
>>48011708
B
Work hard and take them out. Let's look in the backgrounds of the terrorists and see if we can find a pattern. Like religion
>>48011771
This
>>48011708
>C.Set the archipelago as a special administrative zone
A special counter-terrorism taskforce has been formed as part of the government's internal security forces.
Central Operations for the Neutralisation of Terrorist and Rebel Activities (CONTRA) will see its first action now in Operation Thunderstruck.
Roll twice for CONTRA and twice for the terrorists
Rolled 61 (1d100)
>>48011991
Here we go
Rolled 56 (1d100)
>>48011991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tifv7qh_hmY
Since there's no other posts, I'll take those
61 vs 56
CONTRA has been successful in tracing the terrorists to a hideout near Widewater. We've eliminated the physical threat, but the logistics behind their operations are still being investigated.
Missed updating the pop count last couple of times.
It's 1225 now. From the Kaichou lands a new form of entertainment has spread into the rest of the world - video games, played on arcades and television-linked consoles.
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 700 000 Eyerdar 17 200 000 Veita 18 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:10/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:7/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48012215
>Population:195 000 000 (81% white, 13 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 18 500 000 Eyerdar 17 800 000 Veita 18 600 000 Ocras
>>48012215
>>B.Culture & Religion
>>48012215
>B. Culture & Religion
We're going to need propaganda and tell the dangers of videogames. Since we don't want our men to become neets and waste their life on videogames.
Also videogames led to declining population growth.
>>48012215
>B.Culture & Religion
A.Support the arts
B.State propaganda
C.Religion
D.A new wonder
E.Education
F.Sports
G.Events
H.Other
>>48012368
B and H
Videogames show that their counterproductive, and if we are to get videogames, than only video games that try to support our country.
Also only use videogames for the military to help simulate our troops for combat. It will take years but it better to get started now.
>>48012447
This
>>48012368
>A.Support the arts
>>48012368
>A.Support the arts
>>48012368
A and C
>>48012368
>A.Support the arts
C.Religion
>>48012659
Hello Councilor
>>48012694
changed to A and C
>>48012368
a and c
>>48012751
Good evening mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEtAwV0kSsk
A&C
The arts are flourishing in a peaceful world - music and cinema are the most popular nowadays. Various regions have their own specifics - the darkskins in Northeast Aymsland for instance have a distinct style they call "Rap"
Chinks and whites enjoy a variety of music styles, ranging from classical orchestras to modern rock and metal styles.
The Faith also has a part to play, preserving the artwork of the past and its techniques, tutoring painters and sculptors.
In literature, popular genres are fantasy,romance,thriller and sci-fi - the people dream of a great future for our world!
>Population:189 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 17 700 000 Eyerdar 17 200 000 Veita 18 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:9/10
>Trade and services:9/10
>Treasury:9/10
>Political stability:9/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
fugg that's what I get for being a lazy fucker and copy-pasting everything. don't mind the pop count
>>48013033
>G.Research & Development
Let's make a moon base
>>48013033
>G.Research & Development
>>48013077
Manned moon base is inefficient, let's develop robotics so we can have them develop the moon for us.
>>48013033
>G.Research & Development
We need to fight the aliens sooner or later.
I say we take the fight to them.
>>48013033
>>G.Research & Development
SCIENCE time
In recent years, the private sector has made advances in technology without the government's help - the first laptops are commercialy available, pharmacies offer better medicines, VHS tapes and CD-ROMs,disposable cameras and even the first cell phones - if it can sell, someone will make it work.
Space exploration has been focused on sending rovers to planets in our (Argosa) system and maintaining the Space Station.
What project(s) should the government focus on in particular? Pick 1 or 2
A.Industrial tech(robotics,construction, metallurgy, mechanics etc.)
B.Computing
C.Power generation
D.Space exploration
E.Transportation
F.Military technology
G.Other
>>48013283
A.Industrial tech(robotics,construction, metallurgy, mechanics etc.)
C.Power generation
Nuclear reactors provide cheap power, factories provide cheap goods = larger surplus to spend on space travel and better general tech to support it.
>>48013283
>D.Space exploration
>>48013283
>D.Space exploration
>A.Industrial tech(robotics,construction, metallurgy, mechanics etc.)
Let's increase our industrial while we go to space.
>>48013283
>A.Industrial tech(robotics,construction, metallurgy, mechanics etc.)
D.Space exploration
A & D
Robotics are advancing - the first android robots have been built. Studying Spirelord technology, we've even further improved our metallurgical capabilities and are able to build alloys that are highly resistant and useful to our space programs and our military.
What should we focus the RSEA's efforts on, though?
A.Build a second space station
B.Improve space travel capabilities
C.Work on setting up long-term extraterestrial habitats
>>48013526
B.Improve space travel capabilities
If we can do it cheaper then we can do more of it. Not to mention more safely, quickly and comfortably.
Also the other two could go horribly wrong and take a while to set up.
>>48013526
>C.Work on setting up long-term extraterestrial habitats
>>48013526
>B.Improve space travel capabilities
>>48013526
>C.Work on setting up long-term extraterestrial habitats
Let's get a moon base going.
>>48013553
this
We've expanded our spaceflight capabilities through the reusable Space Shuttle we've recently completed. Research into better means of travel continues - conventional rocket engines can only get us so far and we are now trying to figure out how exactly the Spirelords' spaceships work, as they also had some sort of propulsion systems that did not require the use of internal combustion. The goal would be achieving warp travel capabilities - we know that is how the original colonies came to this moon from humanity's homeplanet, Earth, over 1700 years ago.
>Population:200 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 19 300 000 Eyerdar 18 200 000 Veita 19 000 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:10/10
>Trade and services:9/10
>Treasury:9/10
>Political stability:9/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48013827
>>G.Research & Development
>>48013827
>D.Improve military
We're gonna need rayguns in the future war against the aliens.
>>48013827
>>D.Improve military
>>48013897
GREEN FUCKING SHIT'S!
GET OUT OF MY GALAXY!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Military it is
With the lates technology, we will be able to improve equipment across the board - but what areas of our forces should we focus on improving?
A.Infantry and light armament
B.Special forces
C.Heavy armament - tanks and artillery, rockets etc.
D.Airforces
E.Military command and logistics
F.Other
PICK TWO
>>48014050
E.Military command and logistics
B.Special forces
>>48014050
A.Infantry and light armament
C.Heavy armament - tanks and artillery, rockets etc.
>>48014050
>E.Military command and logistics
>C.Heavy armament - tanks and artillery, rockets etc.
>>48014050
>C.Heavy armament - tanks and artillery, rockets etc.
>E.Military command and logistics
We've modernised our armed forces' equipment and have expanded our armored divisions, artillery corps and nuclear arsenal. The modern army does not need to be huge in numbers - instead our soldiers have superior training, equipment and tactics. The officer:soldier ratio has been increased significantly and we've undertaken joint wargames with our allies, exchanging useful information and gaining experience .
>Population:202 000 000 (80% white, 14 % chink,1%hibibi, 4%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 19 600 000 Eyerdar 18 400 000 Veita 19 200 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:10/10
>Trade and services:9/10
>Treasury:9/10
>Political stability:9/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48014239
>G.Research & Development
>>48014239
>G.Research & Development
Let's go make a moon base
>>48014239
>>G.Research & Development
R&D
A.Military tech
B.Computing
C.Power generation
D.Space exploration
E.Transportation
F.Other
>>48014281
B.Computing
D.Space exploration
Space robots for the win!
>>48014281
>B.Computing
>D.Space exploration
>>48014281
>E.Transportation
C.Power generation
B&D
Personal computers are now more widely spread among homes and schools. The military-developed WorldWideWeb has become the basis of the civilian-use Internet, while cell phones have also become common. Supercomputers are used for a variety of purposes, including chess!
On the space frontier, what should we focus on now?
A.Artificial satellites - their uses are many - in science, commerce and for the military
B.Further improve space travel capabilities
C.Long term habitation in space
>>48014510
>C.Long term habitation in space
>>48014510
>C.Long term habitation in space
>>48014510
C.Long term habitation in space
Argosa II, a barren planet with no atmosphere, but some water in its polar caps, is the closest planet - Argosa IIIb, the other moon orbiting Argosa III, is completely barren and has no signs of ever having been host to life, but is closer to us and we've put astronauts on its surface several times.
What should we aim for?
A.Get a better grasp on the technology we'd need first, experiment with the Space Station, send a few more missions to the moon again
B.Focus our efforts on establishing a moon base
C.Plan manned spaceflight to Argosa II and eventual terraformation
D.Other
>>48014826
>C.Plan manned spaceflight to Argosa II and eventual terraformation
Go Big or go home
>>48014826
A.Get a better grasp on the technology we'd need first, experiment with the Space Station, send a few more missions to the moon again
We need to take things slow and steady, better to do space colonies ten years later than to do it now and fail.
>>48014826
>A.Get a better grasp on the technology we'd need first, experiment with the Space Station, send a few more missions to the moon again
Perhaps the most ambitious project the RSEA has ever undertaken is its current planned "Project Skyhome". For now, we are working with what we have - experimenting on lifeforms in the Space Station and building up our tech for an eventual project to set up a permament base on another planet.
>Population:205 000 000 (81% white, 12 % chink,1%hibibi, 5%darkskin,1% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 20 000 000 Eyerdar 18 700 000 Veita 19 500 000 Ocras
>Agriculture:9/10
>Resources:9/10
>Manufacturing:10/10
>Trade and services:9/10
>Treasury:8/10
>Political stability:9/10
>A.Improve economy
>B.Culture & Religion
>C.Construction
>D.Improve military
>E.Improve navy
>F.Government & Laws
>G.Research & Development
>H.Diplomacy & War
>>48015086
>B.Culture & Religion
Let's give it a break with space for now and try to bring the rest of our society up to date!
>>48015086
>>B.Culture & Religion
>>48015086
>B.Culture & Religion
Let's see how the darkskins are doing. They did go up 1 percent in population and made rap. We have to deal with them.
>>48015166
They aren't a problem, trust me, they haven't had a independent culture in over 300 odd years in most cases. Most of them will be culturally, and economically, the same as the white or chink populations.
All right, this is the last turn for today, so let it be a free proposal/answer - what would you like to see happen?
>>48015226
I would like to see the darkskins, have their population decreased with the help of the government. Allowing them yearly payments if they don't have kids, and to get the payments they have to have checkups at least twice a year to check if their pregnant. If they pass they get the money.
If the people question it, use propagada.
>>48015370
lets not do that
>>48015392
Mate, think about it, their going to be a problem. We can stop it now before it get to late. You'll see.
>>48015226
I would like to suggest that we create some video games, simple and complex ones, based around our history as a nation and also on our future. Maybe throw a sci-fi or two in there.
That or produce a series of "period dramas" as they are know alongside a few different sci-fi shows, all showing different futures, both bleak and bright.
>>48015370
That is highly immoral. I question your actions but can suggest a simpler alternative; freely provided contraceptive devices for all citizens.
>>48015432
>but can suggest a simpler alternative; freely provided contraceptive devices for all citizens.
THIS inkys plan is just dum
>>48015432
m8, I have a better alternative kill all the blacks, but that don't work.
Also if they are going to use contraceptive devices they need to be education.
I don't want free contraceptive decives to all citizens, just to non-whites.
>>48015226
Sorry for being late.I'd really like your idea of a fantasy quest on /qst/ to see the day, especially during Summer since summerfags will likely bring life to /qst/.
>>48015432
>That is highly immoral.
it's not immoral, it's the choice everybody face with a slight value change, money or childrens.
We just added more money on the other side of the equation.
>>48015432
Let's do the videogame idea.
But free contraeptive device for non-whites
>>48015507
ok inky WHY do you want to kill all blacks
>>48015432
>I would like to suggest that we create some video games, simple and complex ones, based around our history as a nation and also on our future. Maybe throw a sci-fi or two in there.
>That or produce a series of "period dramas" as they are know alongside a few different sci-fi shows, all showing different futures, both bleak and bright.
all my yes this
>>48015556
Because I know what they are capable of.
By first hand experience, and I don't want that to befall to anyone else That why I made my plan.
Also it's not immoral we're going to improve the standard of living of the darkskins. By giving them money.
I'm excited for his next quest, even if I believe it's going to go down in flames because some fag wants to shit the bed of our glorious Quasi-fascist WhateverRaceWePick selves.
>>48015598
>Because I know what they are capable of.
explain
>>48015507
They don't need to be educated for one of the best forms of protection; the implant.
Basically for two years (or however long our variant lasts) unless it is removed a woman can't get pregnant. That seems like the perfect method of dealing with it.
I originally planned on suggesting these as law that people be put on these constantly and that to have children they be taken off just to cut down on the eventual increase in teen pregnancy. Plus it makes rape basically a non-issue, ignoring psychological trauma.
>>48015616
He wants to run the new quest and sees this one coming to it's logical end. Considering we are about to enter the "win" state of the game; conquer / colonise the galaxy, tech the fuck out of everything and create a society that makes the "culture universe" look primitive.
>>48015653
I know, I said I was excited for his NEXT quest.
I'm just justifiably concerned about enjoying the game and having player factions work together or have some healthy competition running a race/empire and there will be a few fags that only come to be ChaoticStupid.
>>48015616
I plan on partially doing that.
I don't want to be part of the gun-ho let's kill all the other races movement as a faction in the next quest.
My idea of the faction i plan to make is mostly trader guilds, inventors and builders.
Still I plan on making sure we stay nationalist but i'm likely going to oppose most agressive wars.
I think everyone should think up of what faction he would like to represent in our next fantasy "civ".
I think there's room for fun in the concept and people can put together an interesting history and culture by all working torward different goals in different way.
>>48015653
The implant could be good idea, we could just pay them to have it installed, but to have to removed them have to pay the money we gave them back. So this way we lock the darkskins to being pregnant.
>>48015700
Obelix I hope our factions could be friends in the next civ.
>>48015736
well since i'm taking an economical centered faction i'm actually hoping to make friends with a few factions.
Thoses trade routes and convoy won't guard themselves.
And i'm sure i'll be able to work on a few deals that sound like "you protect us , we give you weapons and money"
>>48015700
Hell, I plan on being a "social uplifter" - I'll be pushing for jugs of endless water for the poor and other such things.
My point being that all of society should be focused either in the improvement of society or the defence of it.
Non-isolationist, education-loving, anti-excessive armed forces (still in favour of war) and other such things.
>>48015786
Sounds good, even through I'm be a more extreme faction. That doesn't mean I'll not work with other races or factions. I'll don't be just about wars, I need to have a busniess base to be the core to fund any wars.
>>48015857
i'm eager to see how we'll all deal with the fact that this is going to be a fantasy civ therefore magic might be more or less a thing.
I plan on being no nonsense buiseness kind of faction but interaction with other kind of factions might get pretty chaotic regarding magic.
I hope we're in a low-fantasy setting so that we won't get some winged firebreathing tigers raiding my trade routes and burning down my forests.
>>48015937
But if we play high fantasy then we can actually have teleportation and other such fantastical things to work around, to get those creative muscles working!
>>48015937
I'm think we're all going to have fun in anyway it will turn out.
My plan on the faction is a industrial and military type of faction that rule by a king.
That see magic as a useful thing but at the same time could be chaotic.
They willing to work with others, and think people of the same race should work together for the same goal..
>>48016057
I think you aren't getting at what the OP said about the entire thing.
It's not multiple factions and Empires, it's multiple factions within the same Nation.
>>48016164
This, see us more as political parties than as nations.
>>48016164
Right, but still doesn't change my plans for my faction going to be. But thanks for clearing it up.
>>48016225
Right, so instead of a nation ruled by a King that espouses the values of heavily industrial development and militarization with a emphasis on the control and regulation of Magic, you become the political party / voting block / CORPORATIONZ IZ PAOPLE GUISE / Guild that does those things.
>>48016164
He can still root for a lord to rule his faction.
We'll probably use feudal admnistration for quite a while and I'm sure most faction will need to side with powerful lords to get things done.
Nation in a fantasy setting have less meaning than races and culture.
Lords generally side with thoses who hold most profit for them and their people and the important part as well is "their people".
This is why France never disappeared even after losing a few wars to England and it's numerous allies.
We didn't disapear because people have a cultural identity and will side with thoses represent them.
So lords ruling over castles will happen i believe.
I personally plan on ruling my faction's land with a high Steward who his elected by a council of lords within my faction.
>>48016271
depending on the magic level i'll be pushing for one of three systems;
1) Magocracy
2) Noble republic / elective monarchy (like Poland had)
3) Merchant republic
Or some mix thereof.
>>48016311
I'd personally be pushing for an oligarchy.
republics are troublesome in a world where education is at best specialized knowledge and at worst the ability to read.
Succesion amongst the lords would be a choice.
The first born or the last born may be the heir or any kind of succesion within bloodlines.
Each lords would get to vote for different people to reach position of a great council to rule the nation.
Republics make way for far too much decadence i feel and a Magocracy might lead us in the wrong path obscurantism or worse.
>>48016374
oligarchy would work, since their is going to be factions. Also it allow that any faction if they have enough support to get in control. Maybe if the nation get attacks we'll have to fight a common enemy before we fight each other again.
>>48016374
I suppose but if the masses are against the highborn they shall revolt.
Magocracy assures that they can rise and leaves little else to desire if done right, considering they could in theory sustain a large population with a little thought. Depending on how powerful they'll be.
Failing that noble / merchant republics are my backup plans assuming magic isn't powerful enough.
Alternatively though is the concept of a caste system, it would be stable and ensures the existence of people for every line of work.
>>48016466
By that logic we should be a Poland style noble republic, where at it's height 1/10 of the population could vote on the king. Who admittedly had little power since most of it had been removed from him and given the "sejm" who's actual job I can't remember. For instance the king was limited to a royal army of three thousand troops, anything else he had to beg for.
This would explain why our politics are changing so much; it's because we are just experiencing a different vote.
>>48016532
The masses most of the time revolt only if their straving. Like in the France revoltion they revolt partly because they didn't have bread due to bad weather and the government didn't have the money to give them food.
So as long as the masses have food and we don't actively try to kill them. A revolt don't be that big, or powerful.
If you look up history this will be the case.
>>48016532
>I suppose but if the masses are against the highborn they shall revolt.
If we do our job properly and don't get decadent too much they won't.
Like with any kind of governement, as long as all the lord don't start getting high on elven tree sap and stop administrating shit we'll be fine.
Magocracy can fuck us greatly, you're literally doing power to the most learned man in th world, except Knowledge=/=morality, you're just getting a 100% chance they'll reduce the food budget for the nifty books budget.
Even if there's high magic we'll be better off not having them as our rulers, it would make them much easier to deal with.
And a merchant republic whilst very efficient administration-wise will have it's flaws like never wanting to ever go to war.
I think it's better if we allow faction to form their own alliances like sub governement but have all of their leaders form a sort of elective oligarchy.
Essentially lords are part of the oligarchy but within their alliance can choose to be part of a Magocracy that admnistrate withing the faction.
>>48016683
True but can you be certain that the rains will always come? It is best to direct the anger of anyone away from us.I also plan on building a cross between the institute from fallout 4 and some other things so we can do that whole "underground super-mages / super-engineers" motiff
>>48016683
>>48016685
Eh we will have to see how the rules work out from bulgar.
>>48016719
Even if the rain doesn't come, as long as our nation had the funds we could feed the poor for a while. Also we can build grain storages to help feed the poor during bad years.
>>48016743
>Eh we will have to see how the rules work out from bulgar.
Maybe with us talking about how it going to be is giving him ideas so he can work out the rules.
>>48016818
I would assume he has something vaguely hashed-out.
>>48016852
I also think he does have something thought out. But maybe this will help a little.
>>48016683
>The French revolution.
The funny thing is they didn't hate louis the 16th at first, The poor guy was actually not an asshole and not as decadent and prestigious as his grandfather louis the 14th, the sun king.
Louis the 16th had locksmithing as an hobby and generally wasn't very smart but certainly way smarter than common mens.
At his time most ideas from the cultural revolution louis 14th sparked essentially made their way to the public, ideas that come from a very long time, freedom and abolishement of all form of slavery and independence of all.
Essentially at the start of the revolt they wanted to have the king reform the governement into an elective monerchy where representative of nobles,church and common folk would express issues to a council and th king would keep only the executive power.
Except louis 16th was pushed by a lot of factions to leave France for Austria, the homeland of his wife to ask the Austrian lords to come and help him restore his power.
Except he was caught next to the border and then branded a traitor.
Thus they excuted all his family and then France feel into an age of terror for a decade or so.
The 1st republic wasn't very ordonned and the number of execution skyrocketed.
Overall it was an administrative failure on louis the 16th part to flee and essentially push his country into an unstable republic that would soon become an empire.
The circumstance were very unique at the time a famine and general discontent of the admnistration led to this disaster.
>>48016880
True, he's taking his time with this update, you think his internet broke?
>>48016899
I learn about the Frence Revolution from a French professor and he cover the same points as you.
Just that Louis the 16th loved hunting and locksmithing. The thing about him he couldn't make up his mind, he was too wish wash.
Also he could have left France if he didn't stop to eat.
He could have stop the revoltion if he was more informed on what the people were going though. He wasn't a bad guy, he was just the wrong man for the job.
>>48017041
Amazing how many times that phrase comes up in history; chamberlain for example had WW 2 not came along would've been regarded as an okay politician. Shame really that he was so against any further bloodshed or it would've ended with far less...
>>48017041
He was really wish wash on one thing.
He literally spent a billion livres to help America become free of the Englishmens grasp and tyrany but he refused when faced with a fiscal crisis that caused most of the famine because of this fiscal crisis ,to reform his governement.
If he had he not tried to flee and betray France he'd be remenbered as the most enlightened monarch of the world and hero of democracy.
But in the end he was mostly an influenced powerful but naive man, this single decision could have change greatly the course of history but sometimes people don't wish to adapt to the world but when they change their mind because fo fear it's too late, adaptability is hard to master, when to set the rules and when to play by the rules that are already set.
