>Influence of Emrakul
>2GG
>Enchantment
>Every time you cast a Eldrazi creature spell with a converted mana cost higher then or equal to 7, draw two cards.
>>48005797
>art depicts Jacetice league fighting
For fuck's sake are we going to get one every block
>>48005786
Holy shit, he makes 1/1 wizards that turn 3/2 fliers when he flips. So he's basically going around spawning more Delvers. 10/10 flavour.
>>48005786
>>48005797
I'm glad they're going back to Eldrazi being fatties instead of efficient beaters.
>>48005786
13/13 flavor
>>48005786
So it's Delver, his iteration in SOI and now this guy.
This all paints a rather flavorful story. I love this .
>>48005786
>delver depicts a guy with an insect in the cage
>docent depicts and insect with a guy in the cage
>>48005880
POTTERY!
>>48005786
Okay, now THIS I like.
>>48005888
I love how his effect carries over this time around, so you are now creating armies of 3/2 Wizard tokens. and that's on top of the bonus being applied to your other wizards.
>>48005786
Delver was common
SOI Delver was uncommon
EMN Delver is rare
The saga concludes with a mythic card in Innistradvs Phyrexia
>>48005805
Read in a nasely Jew voice:
>GUYS we have found market research shows things people like are actually unpopular.
>our research groups of 15 people we found at a Starbucks up the road show that people like things that are in pop culture at the current moment
>due to the nature of Magic development it takes 2 years to develop things.
>this means you get to experience the awesome fads from almost 30 months ago all over again but with awesome +1/+1 counter mechanics with more black people than ever!
>>48005906
>Innistrad vs Phrexia
muh dik
>>48005906
>it flips back into a 1/1 human wizard with some insane transform effect
>>48005906
>Mythic Meld Card
Yay! Should it be a Hanweir-type-thing, that is, a land and a creature that meld into a single legendary?
>>48005911
Back to the containment board >>>/pol/
>>48005786
I'd like to build a flavour deck around the 3 delver cards. Damn. I love it.
>>48005906
>Mythic legendary eldrazi insect that flips into a planeswalker
>Traverses the planes sharing his research
Make it happen WOTC.
>>48005786
>3UU
Fuuuuuck. Whelp, if this was a bit cheaper this would be disgusting. As is, unplayable in every format?
>>48005786
is it time for jank wizard tribals to make a resurgence
>>48006008
EDH calls in the distance
>>48005994
Good luck to you.
>>48005984
What's it like on the right side of history Mr. I Have to Censor or Remove Ideas Different than Mine.
>>48006049
Feel free to have them, but back on your containment board.
>>48006070
Asshurt detected.
To actually contribute something meaningful:
Do you think they will make Meld an actual thing in another set? They seemed really hyped about it in the announcement article. Too hyped to just ditch it. It sounded a lot different than the usual pony show they do for their usual garbage mechanics.
I wish there was a way you could just keep evolving the basic Delver all the way up to this
>>48006094
>Do you think they will make Meld an actual thing in another set?
I think it would fit in Phyrexia, Kaladesh orKamigawabut you could also use it on Lorwyn, Tarkir or Ravnica.
>>48006094
I gotta say I really like the mechanic. Maybe I'm the minority here with that but I really do. So I hope they do more, if the cards with it keep the quality of the three we have.
>>48006105
That would be a nice thing. Maybe they make an instant or sorcery that enables you to replace a creature with one from your hand and uses the Emerge mechanic. But from the name of it I think emerge is meant to be an eldrazi mechanic.
>>48006125
I could see it for a lot too but not on every plane.
It really works best for artifacts and black stuff.
>>48006105
No problem, just use the mechanic from Tarkir that let you place cards from your deck out as face down tokens, the interaction with a DFC might be a bit screwy though.
>>48006094
Depends on what kind of reception it gets. They did bring back double-faced cards so why not Meld. I doubt we'll see it soon, though. Maybe when we'll get Innistrad 3: Die Harder.
>>48006156
>Innistrad 3: Die Harder
Can't wait to see what the 6/5 Eldrazi Insect flips into in that set.
>>48006169
> Implying the flying insect wizard liberation army won't save this world from the eldrazi menace.> Delver was a good guy all along!
>>48006169
>Can't wait to see what the 6/5 Eldrazi Insect flips into in that set.
Neither can I.
>>48006181
>/You and what army?/'mrakul
>Suddenly bugwizards.
>"You were saying?"
>>48006169
A 1/1 Wizard that when it dies, you get to cast every instant and/or sorcery in your graveyard for free, the shuffle them into your library
>>48005797
Welp, into Animar it goes!
>>48005786
I guess this explains why delver was a common. I didn't think insect wizards were all that common on innistrad, but this proves me wrong.
Unfortunate that he's barely constructed playable outside of EDH and mayyybe Standard. Would've been nice as a commander at least.
>>48005786
Unrelated to the OP
But I'm working on making a Green White token deck
Just wondering if you guys could recommend any cards for me. Its just for casual play so I don't care what set its from.
>>48005786
Seems like an include into Azami decks
>>48006181
but he turns into an eldrazi insect
>>48006008
Its great in grixis wizard tribal.
>>48006235
Desolation Twin.
Populate those 10/10 Eldrazi tokens.
I like the card but it kind of irks me that it's an eldrazi when the previous iterations were mad scientists.
>>48006094
Well, think about it. We've got a an artifact-based block coming up, and a mechanic that's based around combining different creatures...
>>48006287
It also drops the token if it gets countered and pairs well with from beyond.
>>48005786
Good lord, Delver was Eldrazi all along
>>48006292
It's a mad scientist infected by Emrakul.
>>48006292
Makes sense to me. He's seen all the Emrakul mutation going around and has incorporated it into his research. Only small minds fear knowledge!
>>48006304
I guess it wors lorewise if he was one of the first to hear the old gods
>>48006299
fuck you
put in contraptions maro you nigger
>>48006323
>contraptions are a type of artifact creature in kaladesh
>the only rigger is a reprint of steamflogger boss
>nothing makes contraptions
Do you rike it?
![[ joyous giggling ].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZuISJ7v.jpg "[ joyous giggling ].jpg")
>>48006323
>tfw you've been holding on to a playset of Steamfloggers for years now
>tfw they might actually be something other than a joke finally
>>48005786
I'm pretty sure that Chinamen that was banned from channel fireball brewed a kind of decent mono blue tribal wizard deck.
>>48006349
Sorry but that'll never happen
>>48006349
They already said no riggers or contraptions.
>>48006349
Youre retarded, like you should go apply for welfare and tell then what you've done and youll get ebt retarded.
>>48006398
>>48006399
Damnit!
>>48006411
I originally got them specifically to be joke cards.
I was just hoping that their jank would actually be used.
>>48005786
urw wizards on standard with stormchaser, reflector, thing in the ice and a bunch of burn/counter/removal
not saying it will be viable but i"ll try it anyway
>>48006008
5 is about right for a control deck's beatstick. And this beatstick shits out free goys every time you counterspell, seems very playable to me.
>>48005797
>Gatewatch in everything now
Absolutely Disgusting
Is nobody going to talk about unsummon+remand?
>>48006538
Not much to say. It's just fucking fantastic.
>>48006538
There is no reason to be mad at it, so no.
>>48006432
Steam flogger feels win more too.
>>48006538
They should print more "Return spells to hand" effects. Sure they're not as strong as a counterspell, but they are so much fucking more enjoyable to play against and around while additionaly letting control decks have a better unconditional "counter" strength early game without straight up printing counterspell.
Plus if you delays their turn 2 play in time to counter it on turn 3 it's a good feeling and makes higher cost counters more excusable.
>>48006477
Well, I mean unplayable was a hyperbole but I just don't see spell-heavy decks being above T2 in Standard what with Maro's boner for creatures. Like sure, having a beatstick that shit's out 3/2s whenever you cast a spell is fucking great, but your spells are still going to be largely shit.
It's the sort of card that is just way better in older formats, unfortunately 5CMC is way too high for a creature in the formats where the spells are good enough. I mean if it was like 1UU or 2UU (with obviously lower base stats) I think it would be great.
For you guys =)
>>48006598
They just printed Remand // Unsummon, control only needs a good counterspell now and it's viable.
>>48006553
>>48006561
When the fuck did they say they were going to let blue play magic again?
>>48005797
>Eldrazi spell
>no devoid
BRAVO ROSEWATER
>>48006609
scatter to the winds is a good counter now, activate your fumarole and beat face with your 7/4 after unsubstantiate buys you time to get 6 mana.
>>48006008
Fun for casual in most forms, EDH or otherwise. It is mainly a flavor card, not pushed for constructed.
>>48006606
Thanks.
>>48006606
I'm honestly more invested in this guy than any of the superfriends
>>48006606
I'm a little disappointed that he didnt fight the eldrazi, but what can you do
>>48006598
>but I just don't see spell-heavy decks being above T2 in Standard
Thanks for posting this anon, I had been considering trying standard again after seeing a card from the last set, gheistblast or something that you could exile from the yard to copy your spells.
But your post reminded me that CoCo, Dog-Knot Seer and Womb Smasher got printed in standard and spell players can't have nice things.
>>48006322
Nah, I don't think Emrakul's been on the plane long enough. More likely it's >>48006318
>>48006633
>Was about to tell you off for being retarded and that it never said Eldrazi, only 7 CMC
>read it again
I guess my mind didn't want to comprehend the utter fucking retardation that is this card. Why the fuck must it be only Eldrazi? Most of the shit that would be played with this would BE over 7CMC anyway. It's fucking retarded.
>>48006322
Ah, Emeria, or, some say, Emrakul, do you hear our prayers?
Innistrad Micolash when?
>>48006701
>Most of the shit that would be played with this would BE over 7CMC anyway.
I guess I truly am retarded, I meant most CMC7+ stuff played in standard is ELDRAZI anyway, so why restrict it from the one or two other cards that could be run with it.
>>48006701
Because it's an Eldrazi card? There's already a card like this that uses the Ferocious trigger.
>>48006701
>>48006633
This is an uncommon designed to help emerge as an archetype. They don't want it to slot into any late game deck with expensive creatures, as the people doing Emerge would be less likely to get one.
Purely limited card. And no devoid in this set. Why do you want it?
>>48006637
>scatter to the winds is a good counter now
>paying 11 mana to swing with a 4 toughness, nonevasive land
You don't actually think that's a good deal do you?
>>48006606
In my headcannon I'd like to imagine he's Innistrad's Batman, creating an army of lesser batmen to fight the eldrazi with their own eldritch powers.
>>48006724
You can block with it if you time it right. Then it is like a 2 for 1 that leaves you with a big creature.
>>48006606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbGs_qK2PQA
>>48006743
>"W-who the hell are you?"
>"I'm Delverman."
>>48006719
Ferocious is a power trigger, this is a CMC trigger. Furthermore, this one draws 2 cards because IT'S A FUCKING 7CMC TRIGGER.
>Because it's an eldrazi card?
This is a retarded rationalization. "Flavour reasons" has ruined many possible uses of an otherwise fun card. And the 'flavour' isn't even fucking good, just more bland eldrazi gruel.
>>48006724
Its not 11 mana on 1 turn, and its a better investment of 11 mana than the soi counter that gives clues
>>48006773
It isn't for flavor.
>>48006722
It is a niche card for limited.
>>48006809
>a niche card for limited.
>card for limited.
>limited.
>limited.
Could Wizards please fucking make an entirely separate product for limited, 'skilled draft format' babbies to buy so they would stop designing shit cards that are worth less than the cardboard they're printed on?
Drafting is better done online or in cubes anyway. It's intentional pack pollution to make actually good cards more scarce than they need to be.
>>48006748
If I'm paying 6 mana for a reactive instant I want a 2-for-1 at the least, not as a beast-case scenario.
>>48006802
But that counter sucks too. You guys realize there is an intrinsic relationship between counter spells and mana cost right? Moreso than normal spells.
>>48006420
Maro is determined to make it work. Mostly because Aaron Forsythe explained the joke.
Delver-Man
Delver-Man
Does whatever a Delver can.
>>48006606
Don't do bugs kids.
>>48005906The saga actually concludes with a timeshifted Delver from Future Sight 2: The Futurering
>>48006871
Can he flip
On the field
No he can'tIt's fucking transform
>>48006847
Look, I'm sorry you didn't get a good card for your EDH deck. But even if this card didn't say Eldrazi on it, it would've been absolute garbage for any serious competitive play.
Now it exists for a real reason, limited. And as an extra bonus, it'll make adorable casual decks that use Hand of Emrakul.
Looks like Eldrazi are primarily UG in this set, with Emerge being their principle mechanic. That's likely the UG archetype seeing as clues didn't come back.
>>48006868
The clues and investigate seem inspired by it, at least.
>>48006937
All they have to do is errata Steamflogger to say "assemble" instead of "assemble a contraption" and make assemble mean putting a contraption token into play. Then Steamflogger is just like that investigate ghost.
But that's kind of going against the spirit of the whole thing.
>>48006606
>the new delver costs B more than the one from SoI
>2 more power and toughness before flipped
>generates tokens
>its flip isn't just a beater
God Aberrant Researcher is such a piece of shit card. I get that its an uncommon, but fuck what a waste.
>>48006743
>headcannon
end your life my man
>>48005786
Well this is certainly going in my UR instant/sorcery deck. My Stormchaser Mages will love this guy.
Also the flavor is fantastic.
>>48005805
yes, until Phyrexia returns and kills a few members off.
>>48006864
Thats why everyone is excited for this remand, because cancel is unplayable. Scatter to the winds at least gives you a 3/3 and is the least shitty version of cancel to exist yet.
>>48006971
Delver is just a beater. It also fuels delirium.
I guess it could've gained another keyword or something, but they knew they were gonna make a third form and he'd have to have that, so they played it safe.
>>48006998
I thought everyone loved dissolve and dissipate.
>>48006974
3 Jori En
4 Stormchaser Mage
4 Docents
Rest is burn, bounce and some counterspells
Viable?
>>48007015
thing in the ice maybe?
with a bunch of counterspells and fevered visions you cannot loose a control matchup but against aggro is harder desu
>>48006998
Void Shatter is strictly less shittier.
I"m liking clash and spell shrivel a bunch lately
>>48007009
We lost dissolve and void shatter is dissipate, but that doesnt do shit against humans. Maybe with the daddy delver we can enjoy void shatter instead of needing more from the cancel.
>>48006606
Human Wizard Insect Horror Eldrazi
>>48006606
and only 1 of those is playable
>>48007009
>I thought everyone loved dissolve and dissipate.
Can confirm, I love Dissolve, Dissipate and any variation on Cancel.
Because they're so shit and I hate counterfags. The sooner counters get removed the better, I'd rather get some actually unique spells rather than wizards having to print a fucking critical mass of shitty cards every set so blue babbies can continue to play boring stallfests while jerking of to what little power they are able to hold over others in their lives.
>>48007056
Eldrazi Insect ->planeswalker
>>48007061
Green boy is right, cancel is blue for cuckold.
>>48007061
hell yeah dude
i better play mono-white in std and win game turn 3
i better play the shitty combos in eternals to win turn 1
way to go
>>48007061
Have fun, buddy.
>>48007044
Man, this is making me want to try Standard. Such a bad idea though. I can't keep up with the meta and I don't have any of the key cards.
Standard always gets shat on, but I love seeing cards like Rally the Ancestors go from trash jank rare to critical piece in well placed deck over the course of a month.
>>48007107
I bet you love buying new cards you can never use again every couple of months, too. Standard is actually the most expensive format.
>>48007086
>Green boy is right,
But anon, I actually enjoyBlue/Red spellslinger decks made up of actually interesting and fun effects.
I only hate counters because they're such a linear design and a continuous waste of card space in every set.
Also because counterspells are the cause of creature cancer.
The reason fucking every creature is loaded with cast triggers, ETB triggers or on-death effects is because strong removal and counterspells forces creatures to be this strong to even compete with control decks.
Controlbabs complain about Creatures: The Tappening when the existence of their favourite cards and how those cards stomped creature strategies into the ground is how things got this way.
Basically good control spells results in cancerous creatures. There is no good balance between fun creature strategy and run removal strategies.
>>48006847
No. Because fuck you.
>>48006606
Oh, and each one is a step up in rarity from the previous one. Neat.
>>48007170
Is interesting and fun prowess and bolts or the forbidden one? Because untap shenanigans are great, cantrips are dope and flying is my favorite form of evasion but blue and red can do some retarded and unfun stuff when its not countering and drawing all the cards.
>>48007166
I already buy too many cards I don't use. I buy a box of every set released. If I am spending money anyway, may as well try something with it.
Legacy doesn't interest me much. I could theoretically just buy a RUG Delver deck, but I get stressed easily and will fuck up my Brainstorms.
Modern is a shitshow as far as I can tell right now.
>>48006538
Part Remand, part Unsummon, all card disadvantage, what's there to talk about?
>hah! I'll delay your uncounterable Abrupt Decay for a turn, bet you didn't see that coming!
>>48007302
It's a pure tempo card, nothing about it should be used as a counterspell.
>>48007312
And it's shit at even pure tempo, only reason why Remand sees play is because it cantrips.
>>48005797
>2GG
>Whenever you win the game, win more!
Who's in charge for this shit?
>>48007332
This isnt a cuck thread its a spoilers thread, take your cancer to the modern general.
>>48005797
I love how Jace thinks mind magic works against mindless horrors.
![en_KYF4VsKVUr[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PkMR8An.png "en_KYF4VsKVUr[1].png")
Aw, this guy really likes his horse
![en_TNDSoBT6E5[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/P6yT18L.png "en_TNDSoBT6E5[1].png")
oh fuck
>>48007356
Its probably giving them -2/0
>>48007355
>make claim
>get rebutted
>proceed to shitpost
Predictable.
>>48007332
Sure thing, we'll see when the card is actually released.
>>48007361
>the flavour text
Yeeesh, little on the nose there.
>>48006768
![en_L591DuKHSD[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3Z2TQYM.png "en_L591DuKHSD[1].png")
Aw, this guy really likes his fish
>>48007361
>>48007372
Holy shit this is actually playable in Soul sisters.
![en_8GFZrLgAMY[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3Yw9jxQ.png "en_8GFZrLgAMY[1].png")
oh fuck
>Eldrazi Fish
>>48007361
>>48007372
Solid pick in limited, maaaaybe it will see some play in constructed? I mean, lifelink first strike is a fairly good combination, you just need a way of buffing him and he even flips himself if that's the case.
>>48007374
Its huge for standard, go back to jerking off over inquisition of kozilek.
![en_RjPyXzypC1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NRTR1RF.png "en_RjPyXzypC1[1].png")
I heard you like cards
>>48007402
>not "there's always a bigger fish"
shit tier flavour text
>>48007372
That makes a damn fine argument for that "Gain 4 life" modal spell.
![en_98spN8FCxs[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NUZVbKR.png "en_98spN8FCxs[1].png")
I heard you like """shocks"""
>>48007414
I honestly though it was going to be that 0/10 card.
>>48007413
It's almost like Kindle but for card drawing.
![jocLimsyQu[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UpilEr8.png "jocLimsyQu[1].png")
Yay, intro pack rares
>>48007430
>target creature
Fuck you too Wizards
>>48007413
so strictly worse accumulated knowledge
Any decent enchantments? I want to give my Esper Demonic Pact deck one last hurrah before rotation.
>>48007403
>a way of buffing him
>him being a human
yeah that seems hard.
![e9BUK2Nxv3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/89cFi2F.png "e9BUK2Nxv3[1].png")
This just in: green likes big butts
limited bomb too.
>>48007451
It's actually not strictly, since playing accumulated first in a "mirror" leads to card disadvantage which isn't a risk with this.
![idBN4s1aZB[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PPuo1Lg.png "idBN4s1aZB[1].png")
Limited bomb
>>48007430
>tfw even shock is too good for standard.
Wizards are determined to make standard nothing but creatures and planeswalkers.
>>48007430
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
>>48007392
Not sure. I'd take pridemate over this every day considering under the same circumstances to flip this guy he'd be a 5/5.
>>48007469
referring to
>>48007446
![0otsCXlL6w[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZCShlqy.png "0otsCXlL6w[1].png")
Doggos
>>48007459
Man Soul of the Harvest really let himself go.
>>48007471
hmm, true. Still, I prefer card draw I can cast at the opp's end step
>>48007361
>>48007372
4/4 first strike, trample and lifelink on turn 3? Seems good
>>48007450
It fits the lore, geists are a source of infinate rage and not being able to bolt face makes red players mad.
![3a8pnvUtG2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9RU2Chd.png "3a8pnvUtG2[1].png")
Zombambos
>>48007477
>Target creature
Oh wait. Nevermind.
Fuck you too, wotc.
>>48007485
Why would Alphas assemble? There should only be one Alpha per wolf pack and why would they work together? Suspension of disbelief broken!
>>48007413
>>48007430
Those make sense with all the self-mill in Innistrad, I guess.
>>48007493
>at the beginning of the end step
he's not swinging as a 4/4 until turn four. still solid but if he flipped the moment you gained your third life he'd be bananas
>>48007510
Because Ulrich is the uncontested alpha, and he has united the various packs to fight the eldrazi. I think.
So when are they going to start spoiling the good cards?
>>48007446
>>48007459
>>48007473
>>48007485
>>48007501
So anons. Best intro pack rare?
>>48007524
Never
>>48007524
hey,>>48007361 is decent
>>48007526
niblis of frost, going into my spellslinger edh.
>>48007510
Well sometimes shit gets too real and you need the biggest and baddest to deal with it, so you get a bunch of alphas together. Maybe form a pact of some sort, make a pledge. Yeah, pledge of the portalkeepers, sounds about right.
>>48007526
The prowess ice ghost, your 8 year old cousin wont be able to comprehend the nature of your attack.
>>48007524
In continuing with Innistrad's horror theme element. These are the good cards.
>>48007526
niblis, easily.
>>48007524
What good cards? :^)
>>48007340
Oh look at me, look how much I am wing by casting this thing, surely this is all I need to win.
>>48007543
How horrifying.
>>48007402
So did he fuse with the ship or is he just part of the lure?
>>48007524
>t. shitter
Hahahah.
>>48007289
>Is interesting and fun prowess and bolts or the forbidden one?
Interesting and fun is things like Gut Shot, Quicken, Worldfire ;)
But memes aside I mean more effects like this. Things that slightly bend the fundamental rules of the game. I also had a super casual deck in RtR/Theros using tons of draw/ spells and draw/discard spells plus Spellhide Chimeras and shit.
I just like casting spells and feeling wizardly damnit.
Has Gideon shown signs of dying soon, or has WotC decided to go whole hog and take everything/one related to White mana and tentacle fuck it until the storyboard director dies of masturbation-induced heart failure?
>>48007566
The fish behind him merged with him.
>>48007554
>tfw wretched griff and emrakul's influence end up forming the core of some emerge value engine that throttles standard
>>48007526
Blue in constructed (still probably not standard playable), red and black in limited
>>48007402
Holy shit, he's the lure.
>>48007482
He's not a pridemate replacement, he's a pridemate complement.
The problem with soul sisters is that Pridemate and Serra transcendent are their only big threats once you bolt/path them, they usually trade turns and lifepoints (because they can) to draw another threat or stabilizes the field with tokens. Lone Rider is that third big threat allowing soul sisters to maintain their momentum.
>>48007450
Are you kidding me? Why want more shit for burn?
>>48007571
>I also had a super casual deck in RtR/Theros using tons of draw/ spells and draw/discard spells plus Spellhide Chimeras and shit
Jesus I had the same deck, I tried SO HARD to make the damn Chimera work all the time while it was on standard. I'll probably try to do the same with Delverman.
>>48007485
Fun. I like cards that care about combat in red.
>>48007413
The only reason this card is a sorcery instead of just being accumulated knowledge is to fuel delirium, since most decks get stuck at 3 card-types (creature land instant).
>>48007450
Do you really want to live in a world where you can do 14 damage to face for 4 mana? I know I don't.
>>48007361
>>48007389
Seems to me that these were originally designed as Meld cards, but got changed in development
>>48007450
bolting for potentially 4 or 5 damage on one mana would be dumb, especially with the likelihood of bolting for 3 already.
>>48007598
>tfw there will never be another ire of kaminari deck
i really wanted spellheart chimera to be creature of kaminari but it just didn't happen. arcane till you're red in the face is the most fun i've ever had in standard.
>>48007592
At that point what are you cutting? Elspeths? Hawks? Paths? Proclamation? Eos, the 3 sisters and ascendants kinda have to stay and everything else is kinda needed too. I haven't looked at modern for a while so all I know is the mono white version so sorry if that doesn't apply.
>>48007571
Ive got a pretty comfy izzet prowess deck, it feels soo good to get a 9/9 mage ring bully on turn 4.
>literally flame burst and sorcery accumulated knowledge
>bounce a spell
>fatties that reward me for casting spells
Hello tempo spellslinger
It's good to see you
I still have all my spellheart Chimeras from theros
>>48007631
>Rider + Horse = Eldrazi Centaur
>Fisherman + Fish = Eldrazi Mermaid
I LIKE IT
>>48007631
I'll give you the fish, but what's the second card to man-on-horse to become man-in-horse?
>>48006609
It helps. It really does, but you can't compete with the sheer fucking value of Midrange goodstuff faggots. Especially with cards that are essentially Tempo tools.
If it get's some more support, maybe UR Tempo could be a thing, but it needs a cheap threat and way more viable spells. Along with yeah, a non-shitty counterspell. Which is just not going to get printed because universal answers are in Wotc's mind, toxic.
>>48006662
Standard is just a horrible format right now. It somehow managed to become even worse than Abzan Goodstuff vs. other CoCo Goodstuff. At least Rally was a fun deck to play in the last rotation even if you still had to play goddamn CoCo.
Don't even mention TKS. Somehow that fucking card has managed to become played in every single format. There is nowhere to hide and nowhere to run from a t1-2 4/4 that also Duress' you.
>>48007596
Burn isn't a thing this Standard season
>>48007621
They could have made it cost 1 more in exchange for letting it hit face and it'd still be fair
>>48007526
Niblis easily. Assembled Alphas is my favorite though.
>>48007658
The horse, duh.
So this is the last intro pack cycle, right? Let's take a moment to reminisce about this glorious product line nobody gave a fuck aboutexcept for that time one had P&K.
>>48007639
While Kamigawa was on standard the enviroment was slower so you could do Ire right? It seems like it would suffer from the same problems Chimera had on THS/KTK.
>>48007631
Possibly, but they might've just wanted to double down on the merging flavor without risking massive backlash.
>>48007302
>I slap blood moon down
>Ok, I take mana in response. After resolve I cast abrupt decay
>lolnope
>I absolutely need to kill that particular piece this turn
>lolnope
>>48007666
But he's already on a horse
>>48007664
Eternal formats exist. One mana deal 6? One mana deal 8? It would be the most pushed burn spell of all time. People currently run far worse burn.
>>48007361
>>48007372
Rider, meet Horse!
Horse, meet Rider!
>>48007667
I can reminisce about how much fun I had with my slightly modified Intro Pack. Back when I started.
>>48007693
The max damage it would deal is 5, there's a similar cycle that counts the opponents graveyard and sees zero play.
>>48007646
>new flame burst only hits creatures
Well fuck me sideways and send me home
It's shit
>>48007673
it was a more control focused meta, but ww samurai kept you on your toes. I think the biggest boon was that ire wasn't a creature without haste.
>>48005786
Jesus that's fucking busted in a brains tides deck and I can use it to flip westvale abbey
>>48007703
>He started playing with intro packs, not duel decks or a friend's tier deck
Oh shit I'm sorry.
>>48005786
Path of secrets.
>>48007667
P&K?
>>48007715
I don't keep up with standard, did someone made Brain in a Jar AND Rise from the Tides work??
>>48007707
>there is a similiar cycle in which the red one was completely busted
Really you do not understand how having a card that goes 2,3,4,5 damage to everything you want would be busted nearly everywhere?
>>48007676
By the time you have enough mana to drop Blood Moon in UR they'll have figured your plan and at least fetched enough basics to Decay it again.
>>48007707
controlling your own graveyard and the spells you cast/discard in red is far easier than doing so for your opponents. This card is far less interactive which is exactly what burn wants. Your opponent can play around not fueling the other spell by dumping stuff in their graveyard. They can't as easily by a wide margin play around what you dump in yours.
don't even try to argue that it isn't
>>48005797
>The Happy Friends in Innistrad!
Kill me please...
DELETE PLAINSWALKERS!
>>48007707
Kindle isn't 1 mana. Anyway, stuff like
Pyromancer's Ascension in Modern would mean a Kindle in Modern would be way better than you would think.
>>48007727
Pia and Kiran Nalaar.
>>48007730
If it's so busted why does it see 0 eternal play then?
>>48006094
I think they are aware that the mechanic is very parasitic, as you are forced to play two cards that synergize with it other and with not much else. At least, that's what I read from the fact that Eldritch Moon has only 3 pairs of meld cards.
So I could imagine they will use it as a super gimmicky thing once in a while
>>48007730
>kindle and flame burst are both completely busted
ha!
>>48007667
>So this is the last intro pack cycle, right?
Wait, what?
>>48007742
because this card exponentially becomes better based on what you do rather than what your opponents do
things you have control of > things you don't have control of
>>48006644
Thats the way it SHOULD be though. I hate how the story always focuses on the same few marry sues. It would be so much better if they dropped the standard cast and made it so the same planes walker outside of BBG's can only show up in no more than one set in 3 years.
>>48005825
This. The flavour on this whole Delver of Secrets to Final Iteration is just fucking great.
>>48007643
Soul sisters don't really run proclamations.
You're never cutting Eos either, it just gives too much value.
I don't see Elspeths being played that much, its either a toss up between 1 or 2 Elspeths or Solemn visitor Sorins.
You're most definitely cutting Hawks and/or aurok champions for more early game aggro. Siding those back in against decks much faster then it.
>>48007720
I know people say this, but I was actually super intimidated by MtG and thought it was for the most rules lawyering asshole grognards.
Playing a deck that ran vanilla 3/2s for 3 was probably what allowed me to be willing to try this game. I STILL managed to fuck up the rules.
>>48007667
do theme decks count too? because jitte was in one of those.
>>48007389
>>48007402
So basically this is a 3 mana 4/5 in a dedicated deck, is that any good?
>>48007741
>Pyromancer's Ascension
From that point of view, yeah it justifies burning only critters.
>>48007764
They're going to stop printing intro packs in favor of a planeswalker-masturbation kit.
>>48007766
>because this card exponentially becomes better based on what you do rather than what your opponents do
That makes 0 sense here, kindle scales exactly the same as this new card if you ignore what your opponent is doing.
>>48007764
Intro packs are cycling out, from now on we just get two planeswalker focused intro decks for newbies. Comes with a unique but overcosted planeswalker and a few new cards designed to fetch said planeswalker.
>>48007762
>>48007730
>>48007709
Okay, I fucked up. I didn't read the card right and assumed it actually multiplied the damage. It is simply a 1 mana kindle that can't hit players.
Eh. I still think printing a better kindle would be bad for modern.
>>48007780
Eh? It isn't great. You'll need a careful balance of Eldrazi and fishers.
>>48007775
I wasn't counting champions in my 3 sisters since I use martyr of sands, but I guess I understand where you're coming from. Still just unsure of a 4/4 being a "threat" in modern without a hard evasion ability.
>>48007805
>careful balance
You just need any colorless creature card, it doesn't even have to be milled plus it fuels delirium.
>>48007764
Well it is what is sounds like, from Poo in the Loo and onwards there will be no more Intro Packs. Planeswalker decks will take their place which will contain 1 mythic walker with high cmc that is NOT in the set the planeswalker deck will be from along with some spells/creatures that interact with said planeswalker like a creature reading "Weeb get's +1/+1 and haste if you control a planeswalker named Chandra" and every planeswalker deck will feature a spell that will tutor for the walker along with having an extra effect.
>>48007764
>>48007783
>>48007793
Wait, source? Link? This is awful news. I actually liked intro packs. They were simple and clean and didn't confuse people.
Planeswalkers are literally the most confusing card type inherently. There are a million casuals who have no idea how they work. Why would you make them use those first?
>>48007805
you can also just tun artifact creatures, he'll probably be better in a delirium deck than straight eldrazi.
>>48007060
So?
>>48007822
Poo in the Loo?
>>48007783
>no more intro packs
>no more event decks
>no more duel decks or clash packs
>all in favour of more fucking planeswalker wank
Truly we are living in the worst of all possible worlds.
>>48007822
This is the worst news I've heard all day. Making a "fake deck" that can't be played in any real format is retarded. It segregates new players from all other players.
Though, uh... I'm excited for the Chandra one. Probably legal in EDH.
>>48007824
>Planeswalkers are literally the most confusing card type inherently. There are a million casuals who have no idea how they work. Why would you make them use those first?
So they git gud rather than having their hands held with some shitty 4/4 for 4RR with a shit ability?
Everyone loves planeswalkers too, meaning they're less likely to rot on shelves.
