>What is the best deck in the format?
>What are you playing?
>What do you least want to see?
>What do you most want to see?
>What is your meta (generalization)?
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles.
>What are you playing?
Jeskai Miracles (Mentor / Helmerator / Blood Moons)
2 Blood Moon
4 Brainstorm
4 Counterbalance
2 Counterspell
4 Flooded Strand
1 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
1 Helm of Obedience
3 Island
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Monastery Mentor
3 Plains
3 Polluted Delta
4 Ponder
2 Rest in Peace
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Spell Pierce
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Terminus
2 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
Sideboard:
3 Containment Priest
1 Council's Judgment
1 Helm of Obedience
1 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
2 Rest in Peace
1 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Wasteland
2 Wear / Tear
>What do you least want to see?
Shardless BUG, Moist (U) Jund (AKA Waterfalls), BUG fit / NIC fit
>What do you most want to see?
I can crush Omni-Show, Show & Tell, (Insert Degenerate Combo Deck Here), RU / RUG / BUG / RUW Delver Variants, and team america.
>What is your meta (generalization)?
25% Aggressive Delver Style Decks
25% Grindy (Shardless BUG, Jund, ETC)
25% Combo (Reanimator, Sneak & Show, Omni-Show, Oops All Spells, Storm TES/ANT)
25% Mystery****
Mystery: Dredge, Splinter Twin, MUD, Elves, Affinity, Eldrazi, Tezzerator, Belcher, Painted Stone, ETC...
>>47999951
Miracles: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lgc-jeskai-uwr-mentor-miracles/
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles
>What are you playing?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tax-rack-legacy/
>What do you least want to see?
Show and Tell
>What do you most want to see?
Miracles
>What is your meta (generalization)?
Alot of Miracles and Burn.
Land tax is the best deck. Most fun I've had playing magic.
>>47999951
I feel like losing Snapcaster hurts that deck a lot
>>48000474
I am on the fence. I was considering the Four Snapcaster Variation with Council's Judgement in the main.
BUT:
Monastery Mentor is bonkers
Blood Moon is bonkers for the meta I play in
There is 1-2 dedicated dredge players in my local meta. I have a 15% chance to see a graveyard based deck at least once in a 4+ round event.
>>47999951
Do not mind me just a miracles mage waiting to find my damage based wincon.
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles, it has no glaring weaknesses
>What are you playing?
Grixis Delver, 3 different ones: therapy, decay and stifle
>What do you least want to see?
Lands, it's unwinnable
>What do you most want to see?
Infect, Shardless or random Combo decks
>What is your meta (generalization)?
Chalice Decks, Blood moon decks, Dredge and Random Tier 1 Decks
>>47999951
>>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles.
>>What are you playing?
Burn
Fearless Dredge
Pox Rack
Deadguy
my Aristocrats homebrew
>>What do you least want to see?
Big Red and other Chalice+Trinisphere bullshitters.
>>What do you most want to see?
Shardless and D&T.
>>What is your meta (generalization)?
Local meta is
>6-10 Burn
>6-8 Deathblade/Maverick/Deadguy
>5-8 Delver
>4-6 D&T
>3-5 Shardless
>3-5 Eldrazi
>3-5 Miracles
>3-5 Omnishow
>Dredge
>Merfolk
>Elves
>Eldrazi
>Goblins
>Slivers
>Big Red
>Demon Stompy
>Lands
>Punishing Jund
>Reanimator
>Affinity
>Twin
The average local tournament is 28-36 people but we've managed 46+.
>>48001136
That makes sense, I'm just not over the moon about RIP against Dredge. Snap/Surgical is probably my favorite anti-dredge package.
Snap/Plow is also my favorite anti-combo package. I like 3 snaps/2 mentors/2 predict/1 Counterspell
>>48002279
>Miracles, it has no glaring weaknesses
It does tho; the pilot.
>>48002307
I love Dragon Stompy
>>47999951
>>What is the best deck in the format?
Best deck is secretly Splinter Twin.
>>What are you playing?
D&T
>>What do you least want to see?
Garbage Miracucks that take three minutes to Top once. Learn to fucking play. Thanks.
>>What do you most want to see?
Nevinyrral's Disk win a GP
>>What is your meta (generalization)?
Eldrazi, Stoneblade and Dredge
>>48002479
Splinter Twin Stompy is legit
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles
>What are you playing?
Pic related
>What do you least want to see?
Eldrazi or Shardless. Especially Eldrazi.
>What do you most want to see?
I personally love navigating the mirror. It's everything I love in a match.
>What is your meta (generalization)?
There's not a huge scene locally, but we've got Painter, Merfolk, ANT, Eldrazi, Lands, S&S and D&T
Is anyone else going to Worcester in July?
>>48002676
Predict/Blood Moon are better against Shardless, you could try Mentors against Eldrazi
>>47999951
>>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles. Hate the lock and hate going to time
>>What are you playing?
Death and Taxes
>>What do you least want to see?
Miracles. It's not a "Hard" matchup, but it is boring.
>>What do you most want to see?
I actually really love the format and my LGS has a nice diverse meta, so basically anything is fine so long as the events fire.
>>What is your meta (generalization)?
Mostly Miracles and D&T, though as I stated earlier it does have plenty of other decks. Shardless, Nic Fit, Burn, Storm variants, Doomsday, etc.
>>48002360
Moon is cool, Chalice at 1 turn 1 is the faggotiest thing anyone can do.
>>48003003
Turn 1 Chalice 1 is a fair play. Fuck your Tops, Brainstorms and Ponders.
>>48003073
turn 2 chalice 1 is fair. turn 1 chalice 1 is fair if you spent a ramp spell or spirit guide to do it. turn 1 chalice 1 off a sol land is the most frustrating thing to watch the other guy do for several tier 1 decks.
>>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles, obviously.
>>What are you playing?
Mostly eldrazi, occasionally Burn
>>What do you least want to see?
Imperial painter. Unwinnable for eldrazi.
>>What do you most want to see?
Most delver decks. Rug being my best matchup
>>What is your meta (generalization)?
Mostly combo (storm and show and tell decks for the most part), miracles and a couple of burn kids.
>>48003282
Chalice is for semen slurpers and is likely to get banned eventually anyway.
>>48003401
>a card that didn't make top 8 at either gp is likely to get banned
>the only card that's good against brainstorm is likely to get banned
Stay mad bluefags
>>48003003
>>48003073
>>48003282
>>48003401
MUD Metalworker master race reporting in, slamming T1 Chalices and Trinispheres feels great, thanks.
>>48003503
Metalworker and traditional Stompy decks were never the problem. The problem is Eldrazi being nonartifact colorless creatures with ridiculously pushed powerlevels. Only Eldrazi makes Chalice unbearable and only riding on the back of the turn 2 Thought-Knot Seer follow-up which should generally be lights-out.
>>48003741
I suppose, but going Tomb Grim Metalworker and next turn slamming a Sundering Titan to blow up their lands has never felt bad and is something every player should experience at least once.
>>48003741
Eldrazi is not that tough to beat. For any deck except storm
>>48003741
Eldrazi is the only Stompy deck that only runs one prison piece. I'm way more terrified of people realizing that Moggcatcher Stompy is actually good
Dragon Stompy reporting in. I make the people that make other decks cry cry. Turns out Miracles can't beat turn 1 Trinisphere, turn 2 Chalice 1 Trinisphere, turn 3 Magus of the Moon
>>48003003
>>48003282
>>48003401
Smells like mad Delver fags.
That's what you get for not paying mana for your Counterspells and masturbating with your Cantrips.
And a completely different topic.
>small tournament
>winner was on Burn
Just as a disclaimer: he won - there is no arguing about that and I am not even salty because I neither played him nor had any shot at a good placing anyways.
But damn the chlichés are so true.
>he played Price of Progess in response to cracking a fetch
>didn't know the fetchland goes to the yards as part of the cost
>tried to Smash to Smithereens a SFM
>tried to Smash to Smithereens a Top still on the stack
>was told this does not work because Top is not on the battlefield yet
>he waits for the Top to resolve and tries againt to Smash it
>wat.jpg
>>48004357
It runs both Thorns and Chalices, if meta is only Lands and SNT they can side in Ensnaring Bridge and Leyline+Helm.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-03-16-ddft/
Been playing this bad bitch to enough success that I feel comfortable taking it to scg worcester. Thoughts?
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles
>What are you playing?
Chaos Elves
>What do you least want to see?
Miraclesunless they underestimate GSZ for two getting Teeg game one
>What do you most want to see?
Fair decks, I autowin.
>What is your meta (generalization)?
Tons of people, but about 50% Grixis Delver.
So according to this spreadsheet, since I hate my opponents and want them to know it, I should be playing Stax. But there are many various Stax decks: black, white... Which Stax deck is the best, and which runs easiest on a budget?
>>48002611
Lol, have a list?
>>48008200
//Lands
4 Ancient Tomb
2 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Taiga
1 Tropical Island
3 Volcanic Island
//Spells
4 Blood Moon
4 Brainstorm
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Daze
4 Force of Will
3 Impulse
2 Misdirection
3 Mox Diamond
1 Pact of Negation
4 Splinter Twin
//Creatures
4 Deceiver Exarch
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
3 Pestermite
//Sideboard
SB: 2 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 1 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 Magus of the Moon
SB: 3 Ancient Grudge
SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Volcanic Fallout
>>48003503
das it mane
>>48005248
T1 Thorn of Amethyst is significantly less threatening then t1 blood moon or Trinisphere
>>48007261
Black Stax, White Stax, Red Stax and Brown Stax are the main ones. Brown is the most expensive, I think white or red are the best
>>48010543
What the fuck is this?
>>48012341
>he doesn't know what the evolution of Faerie Stompy is
>>48012341
Sea Stompy, the deck of kings
>>48002479
I sense a person who is salty (because of Miracles).
>>48003323
That must be quite the shift to switch from Eldrazi to Burn and back and forth. I like how most of the Eldrazi blank out the massive amount of main boarded abrupt decays.
>>47999951
>best deck in the format isn't dredge
i wut?
>What are you playing?
Doomsday/ANTfag as well as gobbos and the gate
>What do you least want to see?
leldrazi actually being anything other then the meme deck it is
>What do you most want to see?
doomsday/ANT hybrid decks taking off to shitstomp the miraclebabbies
>What do you most want to see?
Stax, Enchantress, Lands.dec, some stormfags, some zoofags, one merfolkfag, a dredgefag, my friend plays DnT then theres whatever shit i come in to crap about with, oh also we see a canadian threshfag once in a while, as well as the dickhead imperial painter guy who everyone is certain steals shit but nobody has proof.
Painter here. Fuck Miracles, play Eldrazi. Its totally a good deck.
>>48012797
Painter has negative EV on their card.
>Painter willingly 2 for 1s themselves.
>>48012835
I'm not sure if you know what "EV" or "2 for 1" means
>>48012795
Doomsday fags routinely shoot themselves in the foot with their own deck. Doomsday is needlessly complicated.
Instead of doomsday people should play ANT or TES and take advice from Bryant Cook.
Even in vintage doomsday players shoot themselves in the foot.
Doomsday does not allow you to keep a tank of mental energy for a 5 round event.
>>48012797
leldrazi is a joke, some dickhead from chicago came into my group up here:
>>48012795
and tried playing that shit, he got laughed out of the store for being the modernbabby he is after losing about 7 times in a row then bitching about how legacy wasn't a real format anyways.
>>48012887
That is his fault for not being okay with a high variance deck.
If you play a high variance deck (AKA lots of mulligans) then you have to be okay with looking for your essential pieces.
Seriously: Watch legacy's allure and Chris Van Meter even addresses the fact that a deck like Sneak and Show does mulligan a lot, and pilots have to be okay with taking a gamble to find their winning pieces.
Eldrazi players are basically playing an above curve beat down when they lack a chalice or trinisphere.
>>48012905
Hey when Stephen Menedian a vintage expert struggles to play Vintage Doomsday and he is a verified academic, your point of someone with ADHD not being able to play the deck is void.
You have to take into account the mental strain of any deck. I feel ANT /TES are great decks, but if you feel exhausted after two rounds of this deck you are not the correct pilot and should not take it to a 15 round GP.
Miracles (the best deck in the format) has a huge learning curve and mental energy expenditure, but can be overcome with meditation and practice, practice, practice, and even more practice.
Not even Joe Lossett has truly mastered miracles. There is always a new card or new meta forcing him to learn and evolve with the format.
>>48012905
>>48012883
Basically this. Doomsday ain't that hard. I jumped into legacy with doomsday. Beginner shit. You just don't like counting past 5 while playing childrens' card games.
>>48012935
the problem with eldrazi is essentially the fact that if someone can deal with chalice or sphere right away they are completely screwed.
>>48012717
>sea stompy
More like pee stompy
>>48013000
This is different then you said before which basically was "kek doomsday is shit and your shit for playing it, why don't you play ANT/TES instead scrub" which is both wrong and ignorant at best.
Mental strain is doable with practice and actually knowing whats the most popular thing you can deal with, if theres a lot of miracle shit everywhere you should be prepared to probably deal with miracle and the likes.
>people keep claiming miracles is the best deck when it eats shit all the time to dredge and dredge has been legacys boogyman for years now since everytime people forget about the fact it dominates as soon as its ignored it shitstomps the meta.
>>48010543
>its called Sea Stompy
>all it does is kill shit forever and then poke at crap for turns on end
>>48013105
SEE
>>48012754 (NaCl)
>>48013180
>being this mad for being wrong
>>48013071
Doomsday can stone walled flusterstorms, FoW, Spell Pierce, Daze(s), and maybe a spell snare here or there.
RUG / BUG / UWR / UR Delvers just clock you down and then you are forced into Lightning Bolt Territory.
BTW you are not shit for playing the deck.
YOUR DECK (doomsday) is fragile to hate.
>>48013188
If you are going to call me a faggot spell it right because I am worth way more than 2 Gs.
You probably spell it FAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG(wealthier than you)GGGGGOT
>>48013235
heres a (you)
enjoy being forevermad.
>>48013212
I think the wisest legacy advice I have ever heard is "there is no inherent value to playing doomsday".
Once people get past the initial rush of playing a flashy "complicated" deck, they see that it basically plays out like ANT, with the good matchups being better and the bad matchups being worse.
>>48013105
What are you talking about? Dredge has not been a tier 1 deck because it's not terribly consistent or good.
>>48013212
I legit don't know why you are so pissed at Doomsday your entire post is quite literally "your deck is shit since removal exists" which most decks run into problems when things are removed at the right time and the right place.
TL;DR why you so mad brohams?
>>48013322
>implying
>>48012935
>>48013020
Eldrazi are playing 4 mana 4/4's and 5 mana 5/5's. Decks that can ignore chalice tend stomp it, and once chalice is out of the picture other decks draw better.
It's way different than Sneak and Show. Sneak and Show can brainstorm out of a mulligan. Eldrazi can't mitigate a double mulligan
>>48013322
no dredge hasn't been T1 because its easily hateable, theres a massive difference there, its one of those decks where either you are prepared to shitstomp it or you roll over and die, thats how it works.
>>48013342
I've consistently beat Dredge with Delver g1. The deck struggles with hate cards, but those hate cards aren't in specifically for dredge. It's reasonably favored against Miracles, but doesn't do anything especially well.
>>48013404
Not really. Deathrite rolls over it, a well placed force can dismantle the whole deck. The hate that people run is primarily for lands/sneak and Show, it just happens to also destroy dredge
>>48013443
thats why i put the second part here:
>>48013404
Dredges main problem is if you can break their graveyard in half they are completely screwed and thats even worse in manaless dredge and if you arn't carrying the GY hate your screwed, thats about all there is too it, the reason i placed it at top tier is because of the fact that no matter how in the actual fuck the meta changes, if graveyard hate goes away dredge will shitstomp any deck in legacy in a straight out fight and thats something i doubt will change any time in the future.
>>48013493
Again, you don't need hate to dismantle dredge. I've won plenty of games using a bolt to pop a timely Bridge, or forcing an led/breakthrough.
Furthermore, no one runs hate for dredge. It's all hate that also hoses dredge + deathrite.
>>48007261
If you hate your opponents and want them to know it you should be playing eldrazi and talking shit the entire time. Not enough to get a judge call, but enough to let them know.
>>48013404
Dredge has been beat down because:
[1] DRS is a 4 of in 25% of any meta.
[2] The pilots crush game 1, and struggle to remain relevant in Games 2 & 3.
[3] Rest in Peace, Tormod's Crypt, Nihil Spellbomb, Leyline of the Void, Grafdigger's Cage, and many other answers exist.
[4] Many of the hate pieces people have mainboard for other matchups.
[5] A low number of truly skilled dredge pilots. I can point to one Dredge Pilot (Joesph Moreno). Him and only him as a tier I level pilot. Most dredge pilots are not prepared to SB with the deck.
>>48013538
Or just play Miracles and clearly be oblivious of the rules. Try to trigger counterbalance off aether vial etc
Lets lighten the mood here:
>>48013538
I just play Dragon Stompy and laugh as they never get to put a single spell on the stack
Can't answer the rest of the questions cause I don't play competitive legacy
>What are you playing
Legacy Goblins, still debating who I like better between Warchief and Chieftain
>>48013676
I hate that card on every deck but Eldrazi: I'm thrilled that they play that garbage. Delver player here.
>>48013732
The answer is David Bowie, the Goblin King
>>48013764
But anon I don't have blood moon and to justify my laziness I use a playset of rishadan port
Tezzerator should be played a lot more often. The deck is strong and can compete in any meta. I do not own the deck. I do not play the deck, but having played against it, I think the decks needs someone to win a GP or series of IQs with it to champion the deck.
>>48013846
it could be good, but it also needs an extremely competent pilot to pull off successfully.
>>48013886
I do agree. The people who rock with the deck are people who have been playing it for 3+ years and know every little nook and cranny (spell check) of the deck.
I saw a creative pilot turn their anemic board into 5/5 monstrosities and crush out of no where.
I have also had my Jitte become a 2/2 and die to a removal spell :(
The deck threatens thopter swords, but rarely can resolve it.
The goblin welder version a little bit more flexible.
>>48013846
Its a meta deck, it's unlikely to do well in a large tournament
I do have a question for the community:
Where are all the legacy infect (Berserk Poison) players? The data says they are 2%-3% of the meta. I have seen the deck played only once in all the tournaments, store events, and GP side events.
Is Berserk Poison a regional deck?
Someone got a top8 finish with Doomsday at a scg classic this weekend.
>>47999951
>Best Deck
Miracles, although I think Eldrazi is very good.
>Playing
NO Elves, but I just built Infect as a second deck. I'll probably lend Infect to a buddy for SCG Worcester and play Elves myself.
>Least want to see
Sneak and Show, Regular (non-legend) miracles, Storm, Reanimator
>Most want to see
Shardless, Delver, D&T, Dredge, Nic Fit
>Meta
Heavy: Shardless, Delver, D&T
Medium: Miracles, Lands, Reanimator/Tinfins, Nic Fit
Light: Elves, Burn, Storm, Show and Tell, Jund
>>48007108
What's your list?
Can someone help me figure out what to take our for 2 predicts? I'm wanting to try them out but having difficulties deciding on what to take out.
Ignore the underground seas, they're for side board cards
>>48015599
One entreat and side one counterbalance.
>>48015735
I see people siding a counterbalance a lot but I've tried playing with 3 before and I always seem to find them too late if they aren't in the top 7 cards of my library
>>48015599
1 entreat, 1 Counterspell.
>>48015891
Then aren't I getting a lil low on counters?
>>48015599
Do you have nihil spell bomb in the SB?
>>48016337
I change the board a lot but currently ye
>>48016167
Counterspell is really slow, I don't think you really need to worry about having a certain number of "counters". Your deck is made of answers.
If you're running thoughtseize/duress/surgical extraction in the SB I would suggest a 3rd snapcaster.
>>48016471
Like, I might go -2 mentor, -1 counterspell +1 Snapcaster +2 Predict
>>48016497
The reasoning being that Snapcaster/Swords is the most powerful anti-aggro strategy, Snapcaster/Thoughtsezie is the most powerful anti-combo strategy and Snapcaster/Surgical is the most powerful anti-graveyard strategy
>>48016471
I actually just haven't got around to getting the third Snapcaster actually and that's what I was planning to use in stead if a second entreat
>>48016471
I have won many games off the back of a timely counterspell. The card is "slow" by itself, but when you have turned the game into molasses your opponents can not beat counterspell and many times a turn 10 counterspell can kill your opponents will (when they are trying to climb back).
>>48016531
Ye this anon gets it. That's pretty much my plan but I have fears that it's just not suited for miracles all that well (despite my doing pretty decent with it). I want to try it but again, I'm quite cautious because I definitely haven't being playing long enough to be the first to try this out
>>48016531
[OP Here] I have 0 experience with entreat. When I get one from my local store I am going to run a 1 of on entreat.
>>48017185
The red is entirely for land hate and for red blast. I think an Esper Miracles list is possible, but the build might be weird. I do think that Esper is the best color combination for Snapcaster in Legacy or Vintage.
>>48017169
Be that as it may, I do not like having largely dead cards in my opener. As great as it is late game, at the point its good force of will is almost the same. The one of is good to find for pushing an entreat/jace through though
>>48017147
Snap/Mentor is definitely good, but it does fall into the realm of Tempo Miracles. Which is not a bad thing.
>>48017196
I like the 1-2 entreat. Its a way to win very quickly out of nowhere, and is less prone to spot removal than mentor
>>48013297
There is inherent value to playing doomsday. It's better at beating permanent based hate and discard. And it's bad matchups aren't worse than ANT's. Thinking it folds to countermagic is just wrong.
>>48017297
The only problem I have with tempo miracles is that I can't play tempo decks worth shit and I prefer my control deck to it. Even though, I still love Mentor in the main as he has literally won me games on turn 4 and 5 against other decks that entreat might not have been able to win. And there is an equal amount of games where Mentor is a waste of Mana and entreat is gold
>>48017468
It doesn't fold to countermagic, its slower and weaker against it then ANT. ANT rolls over Force of Will decks. They are both weak to Delver, they are both weak to faster combo decks. Doomsday just happens to be weaker than ANT to both of those.
>>48017579
They have different good matchups. Mentor tends to be better at playing games that need to be fast and Entreat tends to be better at games that need to be slow.
>>48017673
I'm sure anyone could tell me that. I should've been more clear, they have both helped me win games when they normally wouldn't
>>48002307
>6-10 Burn
>6-8 Deathblade/Maverick/Deadguy
>5-8 Delver
>4-6 D&T
>3-5 Shardless
>3-5 Eldrazi
>3-5 Miracles
You my friend have an overwhelmingly fair blue based meta. Control mirrors are a delight. BTW I love to terminus when Shardless has 4 or more creatures. The value of terminus against shard less is obscene.
>>48019063
>Shardless vs. Miracles
The only match-up that somehow manages to be even more durdle-grindy than the mirror.
>>48019063
[OP Here]
Correction: You my friend have an overwhelmingly [NON COMBO Based Meta].
Your Meta:
Has many basic lands (Burn, D&T)
Has many non basic lands that matter alot (Everything Else)
Follow Up Quesion(s):
You have 3-5 Miracles decks. What variants does your meta run? Snap / Predict Versions? Karakas / V. Clique / Venser / Legends Versions? (3+) Entreat the angels heavy versions?
>>48019210
Pretty much.
Shardless wants to go wide and miracles can compete.
Shardless wants to rip the hand apart and miracles negates that keeping the best cards on top and SAFE AND TUCKED IN.
Miracles wants to stick a singular clock and beat down, but abrupt decay is a thing.
Games 2/3 are much worse because the threats and answers line up even better with each other.
The difference is in well time top decks and pilot skill levels.
The threat-answer-threat-answer balance metaphorically speaking closer than well oiled gears.
Alright so in my board for esper miracles, would really be better to have more thought seize and no inquisitions or vice versa or a lil bit a both
>>48019918
The matchups you want discard in are not the ones you care about life total, and not being able to strip an Emrakul, Jace or Tendrils is huge
>>48020023
Okay now the real question, foil thoughtseize to foil their plans or Spanish inquisitions becuase no one expects the Spanish Inquisition?
>>48013020
Not really? I mean if you're playing a combo deck of something sure, but the deck can just demolish decks like delver and miracles even without chalice by just playing turn 1 mimic into turn 2 thought knot. Like the deck is just aggro shops when it isn't playing a combo deck, and aggro shops is pretty good.
>>48020141
Delver player here, I love playing against that deck. It's insanely soft to daze/wasteland.
Have you played shops? Eldrazi is nothing like it. It's stompy minus good lock pieces.
>>48013676
the new unsummon//remand beats this land.
>>48019918
Pay 2 life = DO NOT DIE TO DEGENERATE COMBO PIECE.
Modern I love IoK > Thoughtseize
Legacy I like Thought seize > IoK
So, how do i Junk Nic Fit? I have most of the pieces from EMA drafts and some random stuff laying around from modern so i'm building it. Store allows some proxy usage so i dont need duals. If anyone has some advice just drop it here.
>>48020071
Both?
If you're playing legacy and you're planning on getting either, just get both.
Need help piloting Imperial Painter.
How do I play around Abrupt Decay? I swear to christ every time I tutor up a combo piece they just decay it before I can assemble the entire thing.
>What is the best deck in the format?
Miracles
>What are you playing?
D&T
>What do you least want to see?
Burn/Elves
>What do you most want to see?
Anything Combo
>What is your meta (generalization)?
Miracles/chalice+trinishphere decks, but thats what ive heard I havent gone to my locals in over a year because ive been playingForce of Will
>>48021437
welder
>>48021437
Slam a blood moon t1, that usually fucks most decay decks up
Still fairly newish to Legacy but how is this?
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Kavu Predator
1 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Skyshroud Cutter
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Forest
4 False Cure
3 Marsh Flats
1 Karakas
4 Dark Confidant
3 Swamp
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Invigorate
3 Thoughtseize
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Savannah
2 Scrubland
4 Bayou
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Reverent Silence
//Sideboard
1 Nature's Claim
1 Pithing Needle
1 Spirit of the Labyrinth
1 Krosan Grip
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Duress
1 Vindicate
2 Golgari Charm
1 Engineered Plague
2 Rest in Peace
2 Abrupt Decay
>>48021815
Seems good
>>48021944
Somehow I've managed to kill 5 different people to their own Tendrils of Agony around here.
>>48022011
People gotta learn to lead with duress
>>48022058
Well this isn't a fairly well known deck(at least for around here) and Legacy is fairly newish around here for a fair amount of people too. I think their line of thinking is probably like "Oh he's not playing blue, there's no FoW to stop my combo."
>>48017656
Man I've been playing doomsday for like 3 years and experience suggests you're just not right. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
