Sup /tg/. I'm going to be playing an Apocalypse World game sometime in the next few weeks, and my group is still trying to come up with the setting. All we've got so far is that we're in Vancouver, BC.
Help me come up with some fun factions/encounters/ideas for post-apocalyptic Canada. Because it's Canada, it's ok to be a bit silly. Here's what I've got so far:
-Hockey equipment is extremely common, with pads, helmets, jerseys, and sticks being common components of one's loadout. Bandits and raiders are especially fond of hockey armor and weapons. Hockey sticks getting turned into spears and halberds is not unusual.
-The descendants of the Canadian Mounties wear battered, torn up uniforms as they ride about on mutated moose, serving as a hard-ass lawbringer group. Think stereotypical wild west themes, but Canadianized.
-Snow is frequent, and thus snow vehicles are too.
-Seattle, Washington, seems fairly close by, so that could be road-trip destination.
-Everyone is really superficially polite. Apologies are very common. Even during firefights.
What else you got?
>>47947046
And syrup is a favorite commodity.
>>47947046
Cultural and Moral regress caused an evolutionary regress to the point of every canadian being a literal neanderthal.
>>47947046
Eskimo/Native tribes have made a come back and are antagonistic towards anyone not of their tribe.
>>47947557
Interesting. Is there anything about Canadian culture or society I missed? What's Vancouver like?
>>47947631
Oh, Vancouver's a pretty alright place, eh? They got the Canucks out there, which is a pretty decent team compared to the Leafs. Then again, pretty much every other team is.
>>47947631
Don't forget Quebec.
>>47947631
I dunno man, I'm from Ohio.
Might want to stage some stuff in the old Olympic stadium/grounds.
As for Canada in general, I think that you could play up the "Rugged survivor" type a bit more and make it so that for some reason the area seems a bit less depopulated than normal and perhaps not as many firefights actually happen, more like gang fights for territory where people get broken bones and shit at worst most of the time.
I've never played AW though so I don't know how well that'd work out.
>>47947683
Don't worry, they won't let us.
>>47947046
No apocalyptic deserts; instead you get horrible freezing rain (probably radioactive) and snow when it gets later in the year.
Wildlife and flora isn't non-existent, but it's warped and horrible; gnarled skeletal trees, big weird plants, and HUGE wildlife.
Imagine a mutated moose; those things are gigantic already and crazy aggressive and strong as often as not.
>>47947683
Vancouver seems to be on the west coast, with Quebec being a territory just north of New England
>>47947728
Just across the river from Vancouver is some national park. That could be forest land. Obviously no deserts, instead I'm thinking untamed wilderness is creeping back into the cities and towns. Think I Am Legend, when there was grass and trees growing out of the streets.
>>47947046
Vancouver doesn't actually get much snow in the winter, it's one of the warmer places in Canada what with being at the southern edge of BC. It's close to the state of Washington, so just go a little further north and that's the type of climate you're looking at.
The rest seems fine, though.
>>47947631
I live there. Its boring. The nickname is No-Fun city. The nightlife is dull as fuck.
Bitterness aside..Its tour time.
The downtown core is small when you think of "downtown". Mostly apartments/condos. Granville street north of the bridge is the "entertainment distict" sort of. all the new night spots are opening there.
There is little interesting about the core
"East Hastings" is the poorest postal code in the country. Homelessness and drug addition is _normal_ there. And utterly harmless. The chance of getting mugged/murdered is 0.
Out south across the bay from the core is the weathly part of the city. rich people and houses, but west of there is the University of British Columbia. Its a big University.
East of the Core and East Hastings is East Van. Poorer, but bohemian. Commercial Drive is very Italian.
South Van is mostly Indian (from India).
The Canucks are the hockey team, and they suck. IF they make it to the finals, they will choke. Bandwagon jumping fans are present in vast numbers. If the Canucks are winning, the jerseys are everywhere, otherwise, not so much. The Giants are our minor league team. Good team, does well, no one cares because they aren't NHL
>>47947874
Aren't there are a lot of Chinese people in Vancouver, too?
>>47947874
PT 2
The Lions are the football team. CFL not NFL.
There's a soccer team and a baseball team, but no one cares.
Chinatown. Huge Chinatown. Largest on the west coast of North America. Old school Chinese immigrants (isolationists, but pleasant). Not like the ones in Richmond who are recent rich hiding from The Communist Party. (arrogant shitlicks.)
The entire city is entirely too proud of the fact that you can get from the ski slope to the beach in 20 minutes. Everyone wants big city events, so long as its held in a different part of the city (NIMBY).
>>47947902
Vast swaths. Lots of houses are now owned by Chinese who haven't immigrated yet. There is a possibility that they are fucking up the market. Housing here is idiotic. Just look it up, then compare it to the average income.
Its fucked.
>>47947874
>>47947948
this is really helpful, keep going plz anon
Alrighty.
Get a map going, It'll help.
Off the core, north west end is Stanley Park. Its huge. Used to be you could feed the squirrels. They got real comfortable around humans. Like dive inside your jacket to get food themselves. The ducks were ...british. Polite, patient and orderly, but would scrum around whatever you threw to them. Drop a couple of peanuts and walk away. Stop, look back. There's a cult of ducks following you. The one in front will speak for the rest. Quack. (they're ducks). One quack, and they wait for you to throw food.
The geese are bastards. Canadian geese are assholes. all the stories are true. fuckers. They will straight up assault you for food, for getting too close to their food, or just cause they can.
They are why its now illegal to feed the wildlife.
There are small homeless camps hidden in the park. And the homeless keep it that way. no screaming rants, no fires. Just a quiet, hidden spot where the can live.
Running through the park is a causeway leading to Lions Gate Bridge. 3 lanes. The middle one changes direction during the day for traffic. Was built by the Guiness family for access to the old money part of town (back in the '30s). Leads to "West Vancouver" rich part of town. no middle class there.
"North Vancouver" is a typical suburb. One neat feature is the Seabus. Runs from Lonsdale Quay to Waterfront station. Commuter shuttle straight across the Burrard Inlet. The area is locally reffered to as "The North Shore" . Three ski hills, Cypress Bowl, Grouse Mountain and Mount Seymour. Cypress and Seymour you can drive up to. Grouse requires the use of the Skyway, an alpine cable tram. Not fun when the wind picks up. Beyond that is all wilderness for a long way.
>>47948468
PT 3
Further east is the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge. Just look that up, IT will be worth the few minutes of reading and the tradition of iron rings for the UBC engineering graduates (look up UBC engineers too- cars. cars hanging from everything)
Next part of the city, heading east is Burnaby. Its a semi urban suburb. Not a lot to report. The north side, along the inlet are several refineries. At the eastern end of the city is Burnaby Mountain, topped by Simon Fraser University. Oddly high suicide rate. Questionable architecture.
Burnaby leads to New Westminster. The original capital of the province (now Victoria). Tiny geographically, and a lot of towers being built there. New West (locals call it) is getting ass fucked by the rest of the cities over traffic. All the bridges for the bedroom communities lead to it or through it, but the city isn't set up for heavy traffic..
South of Vancouver is Richmond, or Ditchmond, or Hong-Kouver. Chinese population exploded in the late 90's when Hong Kong went back to the Chinese. All asshole drivers. No willingness to assimilate or even learn english. The Olympic speed skating oval is there.
The Airport is in Richmond. Its an airport. nothing special.
>>47948619
East and South of Richmond is Delta (real creative there) Its really four areas;Tsawwassen (sa-wa-sen), Ladner, North Delta, and farms in between.
Ladner and Tsawwassen are small towns unto themselves, North Delta is suburb hell. Houses and not else. In between is farms and Burns Bog-a huge ass bog nature preserve. Just on the edge of Tsawwassen are the Ferry Terminal and Deltaport. Deltaport is a coal export thing and the Ferry terminal is one of the two ways to get to Vancouver Island (Victoria is there) West of West Vancouver is the other terminal to The Island (local term).
East of Delta is Surrey:Where Dreams Go to Die. Its the poor white trash and Indian immigrant area. If it was nuked, no one in Vancouver would cry. South of Surrey is White Rock:Home of the Newly Wed and Nearly Dead. Old people and young people and a beach.
South Surrey runs down to the US border. It doesn't look it, but nothing gets across that without being reported. The residents on both sides see to that. No violence, just call the cops.
East of Surrey is Langley. More suburb. And shit urban planning. After that, you head out to Abbotsford, Chilliwack and Hope. Then its mountains for the next fucking forever.
Richmond, Delta, Surrey, Langley, are considered "South of the Fraser", referring to the Fraser River, which runs right through the city. That river runs way fucking north. Prince George is 600km straight north and its on the Fraser River.
>>47947631
We pronounce it Hongcouver up here,see if you can guess why.
>>47948468
>>47948619
>>47948788
This is all terrific, you're the fucking man. Let me apoc this up a bit.
Ok, so mutated wildlife includes highly aggressive and/or social ducks, squirrels and geese.
We've got tribes of druid-esque vagrants hanging out in the park.
To the North, old ski lodges provide for some fun exploration, and rich people mansions could be power bases for Hard-Holders (the landlords of Apocalypse World).
Old car pile-ups clog the streets, making navigation difficult but is a haven for salvaging auto parts. Maybe a bunch of auto-garages have sprung up in the area to make use of this supply.
Hong-Kouver could have lots of Chinese influence, obviously, with Brainers taking on a more mystical quality here, probably on purpose to play upon the more "exotic" culture and make themselves seem more mystical.
The airport could be another interesting scavenge zone. Maybe some lucky asshole managed to scrap together a homemade plane or two.
Then we've got old suburban hell. Lots of petty hardholders here trying to remake the "good old days" of the Golden Age. I'm thinking a Fallout vibe of forced and/or oblivious optimism in a wasteland.
>>47948788
PT 5
Continuing East from New West and Burnaby is Coquitlam and Port Moody. Port Moody surrounds the end of the Burrard Inlet Not much to say about it. Coquitlam is a suburban sprawl. It crawls up the mountain to the north of it. Its expanding that way quickly and people who live there have problems with bears. Used to be bear country 10 years ago and the bears didn't get the eviction notice.
Port Coquitlam is like Coquitlam, with less money. a run-down twin.
Hop across the Pitt River bridge into Pitt Meadows. Slowly expanding suburban area that used to be much more isolated.
East into Maple Ridge. (lacking any real identity other than being way the fuck out there by local standards) East of that is nothing, then Mission, then more nothing then more nothing. Just north of more nothing is Harrison Hot Springs. Its a touristy thing known for hot springs.
Keep going east and you end up in Hope
>>47948868
Oh yeah, the Raccoons in Stanley Park run in gangs. I'm sure one group tried to shake me down one evening. I'm sitting on a bench, just after sundown and 5 of them come out of the bush, surround me, and one of them comes a little closer, rises up on its hind legs and chitters at me while guesturing with its paws.
Just evolve them and make them urban youth, and you got 50's style gangs of tough guys looking for trouble.
>>47948924
Apocalypse World has psychic powers, so I'm thinking they're not too much more intelligent, but now some of them (pack leaders) have telepathy to coordinate the other racoons and make rudimentary communications with people. They mostly just try to peer pressure people into giving them food, but they're still thieving little shits.
>>47948892
PT 6-other shit
Skytrain is our automatic elevated train that runs from Surrey to Vancouver (Expo line), New Westminster round the north side of Burnaby to East Vancouver (Millenium Line which links up with the Expo Line there) and Vancouver to Ricmond and the Airport (Canada Line) South Burnaby to Coquitlam (Evergreen Line-in construction)
Pitt Meadows and Delta have small airports. Abbotsford has a proper airport and the Abbotsford International Airshow, which has been big in the past (saw the SR-71 and that big Russian Antonov there)
Expo 86. Gotta mention that. It was the big game changer for the city. Before that, Vancouver was nothing, really. Shit all internatinally. Then Expo 86. Everyone got a look at the city, saw that it wasn't a complete clusterfuck, didn't have killer weather (unlike the rest of the country, winters in Vancouver are mild as fuck, hovering around freezing)
The world saw this pretty, unfucked city and decided to move here and fuck it up.
Gang violence:Not like anything Hollywood shows. Gangs have been killing each other aggresively here for a few years now, but it's very targeted. Drive bys are rare and done to gang member houses. Very few bystanders get hurt in those killings (not none, but few)
Its rather Canadian that way.
Vancouver is young. I'm not at home so I can't post it, but there's a picture of an American Battleship sailing into the Burrard Inlet taken in the early 30's. The shore in the background is West Vancouver and there is exactly O signs of human influence. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Less than a century ago, A major part of the city had nothing there. If this thread is up tomorrow, I'll post a side by side with a recent picture taken from the same spot (lookout point in stanley park). Its erie.
Until Expo 86 there were two cement factories in the Downtown Core.
>>47949102
Jaysus, three decades from Bumblefuck (sorta) City to North North North California. I've watched similar growth rates with smaller population numbers, and it's unnerving at points.
>>47948952
Yup, that;s them.
>>47949102
PT 7-Drugs
Marc Emory was based out of here. If you don't know the name, look him up. "The King of Pot"
Weed is not legal here, but no one cares. The cops barely care. An asshole high will get busted for intoxication, a nice guy just as high will be told to go home. Its fucking everywhere.
East Hastings, where the serious addicts end up are mostly cocaine injectors, or were. Now its crack, which has cut back on the spread of blood borne diseases like AIDS. Crack cocaine does good by the city, I guess.
Traffic is shit here. Most Congested City in Canada. The idea of mobile car scavengers in purpose built shops on wheeled stilts would be the gods of the roads.
The only military bases are CFB Chilliwack (CFB-Canadian Forces Base)
A not on the military. Canada has the Canadian Armed Forces, which consist of Army, Navy and Air Force. But its all one force. If you fly, you're Air Force, if you float, you're Navy, if you walk or drive you're Army. This can be weird for Americans to get used to. Each has its own uniform, but an Air Force base might have Army handling logistics and Navy doing admin. Think of it as one fighing force, with specialist branches that have their own uniforms.
Military might is not Canada's thing. The West Edmonton Mall had more subs than the Navy for a while. A fucking shopping mall with more naval power than the fucking Navy.
groups of Quebecers have used the apocalypse as a way to finally become independant of Canada and have begun attacking other areas of Canada in order to claim them under the banner of "Nouveau-Quebec"
>>47949185
Hollywood North, my man.
Stargate, Smallville, X-files, Andromeda,
X-Men, Deadpool, Blade Tron;Legacy Lots of filming here. Production companies love us. The locals don't fuck with them.
Deadpool completely fucked up the already fucked up traffic for the city, and we loved it. The fight scene with the cars happened on the Georgia Causeway (downtown). The Helicarrier was parked in front of the Patullo (pu-tell-ah) bridge (orange one in the back ground-New Westminster).
Beware the raiders from Quebec. They're a little odd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULsZJxPfws
>>47949426
PT 8 Other places
Fuck Toronto. I cannot say this hard enough.
FUCK
TORONTO.
Everyone hates Toronto. I've been there, I get it, Its an arrogant shithole that produces nothing but assholes.
Fuck Toronto.
Fuck Quebec. Fuck those froggy not-really-french-speaking-whiny-bitches.
The only reason we hate them, really, is because they're whiny "we're special" crybabies who want to separate, but not really. If you hate yourself and want to punish yourself, look up Sovereignty Association and be filled with hate.
Its the nationalist equivalent of a teenager demanding independence while still living in the basement.
Fuck Quebec. The only reason BC wasn't more aggressive on the seperatist vote issue is because we didn't want to be That Guy.
The rest of the Country we are kind of meh about, except the Maritimes, who we like, but will never challenge to a drinking game.
Japan we like, China we're stuck with, India has mostly tried to move here..
Seattle.
Damn. Statistically, economically, geographically, environmentally we're eerie similar. Mostly the differences are in the details. Injected cocaine here, Heroin there. Ferry use levels is similar,
Violence is 3 times higher there, Gun violence, specifically. Everything else tracks by use vs population, except that.
Victoria is the provincial capital. We don't loath the city, just one building in it. Actually, Vancouver really like Victoria. Its pretty and English there.
The rest of the world is just the rest of the world no really strong opinions.
First Nations People (aka Natives)
Being first nations is Canada is a ticket to sucksville. Take all the contempt that the US has towards blacks, and then take away the hip-hop culture, and gang violence and replace it with loathing, alcohol and drug addiction, and despair
A First Nations Person off the reserves is a stupid chug who should go back to the reserve. A First Nations Person on the reserve is a lazy chug who should get a job
>>47949765
Not enough porn stores and an accent that sounds like a concussed Frenchman having a stroke. Its an unfortunate accent.
>>47949767
>>47947874
Man. Why do you have to be spouting realities... No one wants to really hear that Canada is really just the US and shittier in slightly different ways. It's not even worse weather.
I was enjoying the Mounties riding mutated moose. Hope realism inspires something creative at least OP.
PT 9 Nuke here! and here!
It looks like if you nuke Hope, you cut Vancouver off from the rest of the country. Not true. That will cut the Highway 1 connection. Highway 99 runs north from North/West Vancouver to Whistler, then to Pemberton, Lillooet (the Japanese were interred here during WW2) and then to Cache Creek where it connects back to Highway 1 (which runs across the country) There are lots of places to cross into the US, then run through the Rocky Mountians and then back into Canada.
Cutting Highway 99 just north of Horseshoe Bay will make it hard to drive, but not impossible. There are villages along logging roads north of Allouette Lake and Pitt Lake and those connect back to Highway 99 near Pemberton.
>>47947046
>>47949927
I was gonna have the mounties be really hardcore and grimdark, but it'll be in stark contract to their appearance, which will just be totally silly.
And I like the realisms, it's giving me lots of good inspirations! See here: >>47948868
>>47949300
I was in Vancouver for like a day. I vaguely remember a dock area that was all prettied up by artists and it was hipster central. What was that called?
>>47949927
>I was enjoying the Mounties riding mutated moose
Not entirely unrealistic, my grandmother up north has a pet moose.
>>47947046
The Native Band: A united collection of various native Canadian groups that barely noticed the Apocalypse. They rule their own territories without question, but are very xenophobic.
The Hortons: A religious idolatry group that consider any Time Hortons as a temple of the old civilization. They offer hot drink hospitality to visitors, but members are generally just a small step above slave labor. A monkish organization.
Wild Rose Republic: A hyper-Libertarian/Religious group of extremists that enforce individualism even if you don't want it.
The New Chinese Conglomerate: A group of formerly elite Chinese power-families that used to rule Vancouver with an iron fist. They'd probably own the West coast of Canada if they didn't blow all their resources on looking drastically more prosperous than they were.
The Quebecois Nationale: A powerful socialist state of French speaking fucks that have a quasi-religious view of the characters on Telefrance and consider the gags on Just for Laughs as allegories for how to live your life.
The Seattle Western Union: A west coast group committed to uniting the West coast along old Canadian/American groups. Seen as a generally reliable third party in most disputes because they always want to see the best outcome. But they also do some shady shit to get groups to cooperate against the East. Their economy is based on sacred weed.
The CSIS: A shadowy, Brotherhood of Steel type organization. They have a subset of Mounties that act as holy paladins. They guard Canada's most guarded secrets, as well as the hidden nuke stash that never got a chance to be launched before the world fell apart (Seriously though, Canada has nukes and we won't admit it. There are radiation leaks in the Canadian shield that prove it and will get you a spooky visit from officials if you talk too loudly about it).
>>47950421
The CSIS irl spook me out, do we rarely hear about them because they're really good at their job? Or because they're unbearably shitty?
>>47950147
Either Steveston, in Richmond or Granville Island. How long ago, and was there a bridge over it? Or big cranes?
Might have been near Lonsdale quay, but that would be very recent and temporary.
>>47950722
Both. Plus they're more about info processing than direct action.
The get the intel, turn it into evidence and then pass it on to the RCMP
>>47950722
They are that good. Go Google what they have pulled off. It's a he'll of a list of acomplishments. Quebec is full of bastards and some of them have tried to be like the IRA.
>>47950028
The mounted are already hard core and badass. The ones you see on horseback are campy yes, but not to be messed with
Seems like people forgot to mention curling.
You can have enemies who use curling equipment.
PCs come across onto an open patch of ice, and notice that at the far end is a couple people with hockey masks.
One person launches a round flat disc, (a land mine), and another person is skating in front of it, sweeping a path which will allow it to glide ride into the feet of the PCs
>>47950722
They're fantastic at keeping a low profile.
My grandpa used to work for them. He very rarely talked about it except for when he had a lot to drink. It's a very spoopy MiB type of organization. They like to turn info over to other organizations for arrests though, and keep their hands clean. Sometimes they'd do "anonymous" reports to avoid any legal hurdles with how the local police/RCMP got their info.
Van Anon here. If this thread is still here tomorrow when I'm done work, I'll post more.
Good night. Keep your stick on the ice
>>47950798
Curling explosives or spinning blades, done
>>47950421
Never heard about these claims, and it kinda doesn't make sense considering our best friend to the south has nukes falling out every orifice.....do you have a source for this?
>>47950722
no they're that good. One particularly absurd event of which I've read was an event in which they couldn't surveil a meeting between two gangs, I think one being hell's angels, they just decided to burn down the barn in which it happened. It sounds retarded, and it kind of is, but it's indiciative of the profile they like to keep.
>>47951436
You won't find one. 90% certain they are American bombs on British launch equipment, the hidden boot knife of the Western World, not listed on anyone's TOE, they basically exist to fuck whomever the aggressor was in the event that USA/NATO gets utterly blindsided. Security via Obscurity. Necessary because the US didn't think the Russians would ever be capable of the kind of CEP needed to take out a Minuteman silo (whoops), and so put all their missile bases out in the open where they'd be easy to build and easy to service.
Less important in the GPS era because of the options that precise targeting give the USA's SLBM arsenal.
But the leaks are probably closer related to the Uranium mining than the weapon storage, bombs are pretty well contained by nature.
>>47950800
CSIS is very good at rumor suppression. Several American traitors have been taken in under CSIS direction, because the FBI didn't trust domestic apparatus to be discrete enough to allow the creation of a double agent.
Also: it could be a plot point to find a crate of frozen beavertails from "civilization past" or timbits, or nanaimo bars or something similarly Canadian. It could even be a two-four of molson.
...you know ... you know Canada is an actual place, right? Like, it isn't Atlantis. We're real. There is more than maple syrup and caribou up here. You know this, right?
>>47947046
Just watch the beginning of Strange Brew, that should give you all you need, anon.
>>47947743
Jesus, seriously?
>>47949426
I don't get the fuck TO attitude. Fuck Calgary, sure, but fuck TO? Never understood it. It's okayish.
>>47951775
I like being in TO for short periods of time in the summer, at least downtown TO. You can check out all kinds of comic stores, music stores, clothing stores, whatever you're into. Plenty of people too, who tend to be nice (assholes are everywhere, and where I am they seem to be in higher concentration than most in Canada). I would NOT want to live there though. Too many people and the traffic is crap.
>>47947046
Dude, you wanna do Canada right, you gotta set it in Winnipeg. Geographical centre of Canada, so you could go in any direction. Major trade hub with rivers and trains makes it a perfect apocalyptic centre for regrowth. Manitoba has every type of climate. You want wetlands, we have wetlands. Want forest, we got em. Want a desert, got that too. No mountains, though. Kinda flat.
Exchange District in the heart of the city is a national historical sight. Entire neighbourhood with preserved early 20th century archetecture. Great vibe. The Forks has been a meeting and trade location for 6,000 years.
Culturally, we have large populations of Caucasians, Metis and first nations, Ukranians and african immigrants, just a huge fing cross section of the entire planet.
Wiki The Red River Rebellion, The Winnipeg General Strike and If Day for story ideas.
Also, we were the murder capital of Canada for like a decade. We likes our violence.
Blistering heat in the summer, freezing blizzards in the winter.
Winnipeg. Tell your friends.
>>47947046
The Saskatchewanians, a group of mutated inbred freaks and raiders.
Of course that's basically modern Saskatchewan so I don't really think that counts as an idea.
>>47951895
>If Day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_Day
Christ. That's the most hardcore LARPing I've ever read.
>>47951641
Interesting theorizin' on that, I can't say I completely buy it but the place to put secret nukes if you were gonna do it WOULD be somewhere way out in the Canadian Shield. Although I do wonder how difficult it would be to keep such an operation running unnoticed.
Where'd this....idea, for lack of a better word come from, a friend?
Also. To become Aesthetically Immersed with the game. People committing Bestiality would be a common item in post war Canada, mainly around heavy liberal based regions. To the point where entire industries to fuck your local animal begins out of the un godly desperation of mankind, who's ability to stick their genitals into anything knows no bounds. Like for example,some Animals would be priced higher than others per rate of population. Taking this, let's say, a common house pet. A dog. Now, considering people would rush to the safe areas with them, they'd more or less surplus as breeding continues. This makes your local bitch, metaphorically and literally. A cheap item to fuck its holes up. But now, here is where things get tricky, with a nuclear holocaust there would be times where prices of this item go high in price with famines. And with famines equal less dogs as we are using in this example, and with less dogs are less ficke ficke. Making it drive up in price. And that's not to even count out the different species of dogs, ranging in aesthetic. So it all just keeps getting complex were Survivors in the Industry are often solely tasked with accounting and keeping up with the Daily Keem. Now, from what I told you with a single family of Animalia. It's not hard to think that with all this going on. There would be torrents of Animal relations (I.E Fleshlight makeshift attached to some furs.) Or glory holes of Animal Noises. The Fucking Animals in Canada Industry is large and complex, and you can make great resource in this new world by providing an Entertainment, every local Canadian needs.
>>47950421
Doggy Style: Animal Planet if it were the Red Lights District
>>47952147
Nigga what the fuck. This was here to discuss Canadian Apocalypse.
>>47947557
No they mutated into giant leeches, I mean it has to seem somewhat realistic
>>47952013
If any of the facts were verifiable, it'd be a horseshit secret, but I have relatives that were involved in the negotiations around the the time they cancelled the TSR.2, Canada was in a "Me too" mode, and had been planning to buy 30 to have a native deterrent force. SAC didn't want to turn over any warheads for FB-111 duty, and given missile mount warheads, they decided to do weird shit.
It was supposed to be very low resource, like maybe not even regularly manned, which makes me think solid fuel.
If it's not already gone, it's probably only not dismantled because of SALT related embarrassments that would result.
>>47950421
This is beautiful.
>>47950793
>The mounted are already hard core and badass. The ones you see on horseback are campy yes, but not to be messed with
Perfect
>>47952147
Christ on the Cross, I don't want this game to turn into a magical realm.
Whiny Quebecfrog here, I'll try to contribute a few things, but most of what was posted by people closer to Vancouver is better.
If you're including mutated monsters and stuff, check out some Native Canadian folklore. The Wendigo is always a pretty obvious inclusion.
IIRC, Canada's west coast has some really nice coral reefs and marine life, if your party somehow gets close enough to the sea. Not sure how you could incorporate that, but might work for something.
Just because I need a reason to shill The Red Green Show, I'd say look to it for vehicle/tech inspiration. Swiss Army Canoes, hybrid cars from golf carts and satellite dishes, and vans held together only with duct tape could fit a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
If you want a few keks, look up the Rhinoceros Party of Canada; they had plans like annexing Britain and abolishing all laws. Probably not the best people to get involved if you want a semi-serious game or don't want politics involved, but otherwise could work as recurring goofballs.
>>47950421
10/10, would join puppet cult.
>>47951713
Don't listen to this guy, Canada doesn't exist.
Next thing he'll say is that not everyone in the US brings guns to McDonalds everyday, and that there are more than communists and bears in Russia.
>>47955344
Sounds great, thanks. Vancouver is right on the water, so I'm thinking we could do a Fallout 4 Far Harbor type environment nearby, with crusty fisher folk and harbor people.
>>47947874
>>47947948
>>47948468
>>47948619
>>47948788
This is pretty funny. And all true.
>>47947046
Hyper-moose
Mega-beaver
Hydra-goose
Sentient maple trees trapping prey with projectile syrup
Unfortunately I can't contribute all that much as an edmontonfag, but I can tell you that in Alberta, Vancouver has the reputation of being a liberal paradise where everyone smokes pot all day and makes art.
Oh, and they definitely steal all of our oil money to fund their commie pinko garbage.
>>47955856
I fucking wish. Just talked to my GM, he's aiming for a more grounded "man is the real monster" style setting. Dammit, even the Moose Mounties were too farfetched!
>>47955879
Sounds like a right boring cunt
>>47955865
I suppose you could twist that into periodic invasions of the eastern barbarians, looking for the oyul munny that the heathens in the West stole from them.
>>47955865
>liberal paradise where everyone smokes pot all day and makes art.
Sounds great, shame about the cost of living
>>47955865
>Oh, and they definitely steal all of our oil money to fund their commie pinko garbage.
You're thinking of Ontario
>>47955916
Man everyone who isn't #BERTASTRONG is stealing our oyul munny, if you listen to half of the crusty old fucks who work the patch.
>>47955887
Nah, he's just trying to maintain the tone of Apocalypse World which, while kinda weird, isn't nearly as crazy as we're making it out to be.
>>47955932
Yeah my background is petrology and Alberta has some of the dumbest hillbilly fucks in the country. Nothing beats a Canadian who hangs up confederate flags in his barn.
At least the joke's on them, where do they think the oil companies are going when it's gone? Hint: Saskatchewan
>>47956044
I for one can't wait for all of the crusty old fucks to get out of here. Between Edmonton and Calgary we almost have a little bit of culture!
>>47956044
>Canadians hanging up the Cuckfederate flag
wot
>>47947046
>apocalyptic vancouver
Asians, male feminists, and runaway trams.
>>47956120
I know right, it's always the rural meatheads who get scared of things like school and vaccinations
>>47956225
Ignorance is Strength
>>47956278
>Ignorance is Strength
That's the Conservative motto here iirc
>>47956044
>>47956120
Alberta is pretty goddamn retarded. Everyone I know from there is either /pol/ incarnate or the one total SJW. This one guy actually had the word "Sheeple" in his vocabulary.
Alberta, is basically the deep south of Canada, and somehow also a good chunk of southern Ontario. Goddamnit most people are complete hicks here.
>>47955344
If we're going with folklore, potlatch is traditional among the first nations on parts of the west coast. Not really monster fuel or anything, but it's a fascinating practice, and it DID happen, if you want to go for realism.
>>47956304
It's everyone's motto, m8. Everyone has selective attention, cherry picking the facts and instances that help their cause.
>>47956332
> Everyone behaves the way, I, a young man on the internet, imagine
>>47956752
Exactly!
>>47947046
>ey equipment is extremely common, with pads, helmets, jerseys, and sticks being common components of one's loadout. Bandits and raiders are especially fond of hockey armor and weapons. Hockey sticks getting turned into spears and halberds is not unusual.
>-The descendants of the Canadian Mounties wear battered, torn up uniforms as they ride about on mutated moose, serving as a hard-ass lawbringer group. Think stereotypical wild west themes, but Canadianized.
>-Snow is frequent, and thus snow vehicles are too.
Dude it NEVER SNOWS in Vancouver. I live here. It rains. ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
>>47957744
yeah, I've been told that, I believe it was called Chinook, warmer air coming in from the pacific warms the place up pretty well.
>>47957767
Also Vancouver is 40 minutes from Seattle. Not exactly far north.
>>47957811
Flight, I should add.
>>47956331
You've got to avoid Calgary and Edmonton. People get better in Red Deer and Lethbridge, not good mind you, just better.
Of course, if you keep going to smaller and smaller towns it swings back to full redneck again...
>>47957767
Not just Vancouver. Southern Alberta is consistently windy with Chinooks being commonplace. Temperatures can vary wildly in short periods of time.
I'm talking shit tons of snow and frigid cold air one week, sun and t-shirt weather the next.
>>47957911
Are you high? Red deer is a wretched hive of inbred fulltards
>>47955932
Can confirm. Alberta is the most retarded province and are insanely delusional about how well off they were.
Those retards had an oil boom and based their spending on hoping it'd last forever. Handed out massive subsidies to oil companies and did retarded shit like make deals where they only pay taxes after X years. The companies instead just moved their HQ away after oil prices dropped and the leftover shells declared bankruptcy.
They put the oil money in the general revenue fund to make up for tax cuts for fucks sake, and called everyone else jealous when we warned them what would happen. It was the second most fiscally irresponsible regime in Canada next to the Ontario Libs, and probably would have surpassed them over time if they didn't get the boot.
>>47956331
In from Alberta. Are you telling me that the rest of alberta has less of this lgbtqwerty shit?
>>47957911
Red deer is by far worse than calgary.
>>47958507
Oil workers here are by for the most financially stuoid people. Who makes 40$/h and still lives paycheque to paycheque?
So I'm working on a west coast fjord-based Apocalypse World setting.
Two words: Haida vikings.
Fuck yeah.
>>47949767
this is probably my own prejudges here, but I want to add to what this guy said fuck nova scotia that place is horrible.
>>47959446
US west-coast? Like California, etc?
>>47959506
is Trailer Park Boys an accurate representation of life in Nova Scotia?
>>47959621
Canadian west coast. Like... places you've probably never heard of (if you don't count Vancouver).
If you want to watch good, completely free documentaries on the area, check out:
https://www.knowledge.ca/program/canada-over-edge?season=2
>>47959731
Sounds interesting. When does this game start? Is it online? Got any slots available? My group doesn't start until like August at least because the GM and half the players are in another game together right now and they need to polish that off before we even start. I may be able to squeeze in a quick game with someone else before then, or even juggle two games.
>>47960175
Sorry, it's in person, and I've booked all the slots so far. Thanks through - it's flattering.
>>47960255
Ok, no worries. So tell me more about this setting and campaign. Is it Apocalypse World itself, or just using the PbtA system? What's this about Vikings?
>>47960331
We haven't had the first session, so I can't really say much about the world, but the general touchpoints are:
-West coast of Canada
-Fjords
-Haida Vikings
The Haida were pretty badass, back in the day. Not sure exactly how this is going to work - are the players Haida, or are they hunted by them? - but they're going to be a big part of the setting. They have a traditional island chain that's a really unusual, untouched, isolated, and semi-self-sufficient.
>>47960440
>Haida Vikings
...how? Like, I am genuinely interested in how you're doing that.
>>47960440
How do these vikings get around? What are their boats like?
Are we talking traditional viking longboats made of wood? Are they scavenged modern boats with engines and lots of Mad Max modifications to them?
How do these guys look and how are they equipped? Traditional or more post-apoc with viking flavor?
>>47960482
>>47960491
These are all good questions.
But, in Apocalypse World, I'm not the person who gets to answer those questions. The players will get to decide how this works.
Maybe the apocalypse was a long time ago, and wooden boats are the new normal. Maybe it just happened, and the Haida use metal-clad knife-sharp twin V8 boats to run down their enemies. Do they raid for food, or for ideology, or for revenge, or out of madness?
I don't get to decide.
>>47960564
So what you're saying is you don't know, and are going to let someone else do the work for you.
>>47960588
Yes.
That's exactly how Apocalypse World is supposed to work. Weird, I know, but when it works it /really/ works.
It's not like I'm doing this out of laziness. I have a ton of half-formed ideas for this setting and this game. But if I write them out now, if I commit to them before the players build their characters and give their input into the game, I've fucked up. Massively.
Apocalypse World is very non-traditional in that sense.
>>47960588
Essentially, yes, that's what this anon is saying, but that's how it's supposed to work in AW for the most part. The world-building happens during play, with the players illuminating and deciding who the factions and history and shit are during play. The rulebook itself says this is how it's supposed to happen. World-building is very much a group effort.
The rulebook is hyper-sparse on lore, only giving us a general idea of "it's post-apocalyptia!" and rules for playing different character classes. There isn't even a section detailing lore or enemy types, it's totally up to the players. The only hard info we get is that there are psychic powers which relate to some kind of "psychic maelstrom" (i.e., the Warp) which came about right around when the world ended.
>>47960687
And even the "psychic maelstrom" can have a lot of different interpretations. You can run it as "it's all in your head, but you're crazy, and the world is also crazy, so that's fine" or you can go with the more traditional "stuff is proper, face-meltingly weird. Deal with it, because it's real."
>>47960756
Yeah, there's a lot of room for interpretation. This seems like it can make or a break a game depending on the creativity of the group. They could get writers block and come up with nothing, or their imaginations could run wild and create some really epic shit.
Some general info on the whole of Canada from a similar thread last year.
>>47949767
i just want to ride at whistler once before the border closes
>>47960852
Yup, which is why you should try to play AW with players who are experienced, reliable, and creative.
And then one total noob, just to make sure someone's making bad decisions.
>>47947631
>What's Vancouver like?
Rain. As a Vancoverite, I feel that I should remind you that Vancouver was pretty much built on a rainforest.
>>47959731
These documentaries are good shit. Super relaxing, super cheerful.
>>47959446
>Two words: Haida vikings.
What's not to like there, eh?
PT-I lost count
The Government
.
Canada is Top-Down for lawmaking. Laws passed by our national government (Parliment) affect all provinces and territories. Ottawa (National capital) says something is illegal? Its illegal across the country. Ottawa says its legal? Now legal across the country. Provinces don't like it? Too bad. Guy in charge of the Parliment is the Prime Minister. And is traditionally the leader of the party who's in charge. The PM is not our head of state. That is the Govenor General. Technically appointed by the Queen of England, but she just oks whomever the ruling party proposes for the job. They're the political equivilent of a Wal-Mart greeter.
We have a Senate. Members are appointed by the current ruling party (we have more than two) . Appointments are for life, and they do very fucking little. What they do (when they actually meet) is look over any bills the government is passing, and see if they're fucked up legally. Mostly its rubber stamp.
Provinces have a Legislature, and is lead by the Premier.
Head of state for provinces are the Lieutenat-Govenor and no one gives a fuck about them.
Our electoral system is much like the US; whoever gets the most votes wins the seat, whichever party gets the most seats forms the government. Even with more than two political parties the winner rarely needs to form a coalition government.
Left and Right wing in Canada would be considered Left and More Left in the US. And we have major parties that are even more left. Our Right wing parties would be what I expect the Democrats under Hillary Clinton will be like. Corporate favoratism, but not full on gut-the-government
We don't elect anything below City Councils. Judges are appointed, as are cheifs of police
Downside-less civil accountability, upside-no soapbox climbing wackos running things because the public is made up of morons.
>>47962730
Yup. Now, just add lots of sharp metal weapons and paint it red, white, and black. Put it and a bunch of friends in a boat. Crash them into something the PCs hold dear.
Sit back and enjoy.
>>47959676
Fag from Dartmouth here.
Only in the trailer parks
Fun fact for your GM: Vancouver has two nicknames: No fun City is one because the city councils have been undermining the live-venue scene for decades.
The other is Terminal City. We're one of the only two shipping ports on the west coast of Canada.
Terminal City.
From a driving across country standpoint, the directions to Terminal City include the phrase "Keep driving west until you pass through Hope. Beyond that is Vancouver."
Terminal City is beyond Hope.
I can't make this shit up. Hope is a real town. Find a map of all of Vancouver. All the way out to the Fraser Valley. Where it all comes to a point is Hope.
And techically its the second town called Hope. The first one is buried under a landslide. (look it up, this shit is real. No wonder we do so much drugs)
Speaking of drugs...Remember East Hastings? Image the bombs drop. The people who live there are used to bugs and rats and living without hygene. They'd adapt fast. I was tempted to run a post apocalypse game and I figured that the people of East Hastings formed a new culture that was pretty much what life was like before the bomb as a nearly homeless drug addict with moderate to serious psychiatric issues.
They're super chill and fine with the world. They were all fucked up before the bombs, now the world is just as fucked up as them. They fit in now.
>>47963058
Yeah, other parts of the country have... other problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KLSbCtinXs
Here you go. This is pretty much it, as I understand it.
Also New Brunswick is the Mississippi of Canada
>>47963149
I'm beginning to think Canadian hicks all sound the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EDZMkrkGn0
>>47963195
Well, with one very notable exception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWlIvfQTck
>>47963195
Those accents don't sound the same at all, but, then again, I am Canadian. Most Southern US accents sound the same to me.
Banter increases as you travel west to east in Canada. Albertans, in my experience, just sort of grunt and start punching (unless they're from the Maritimes). But by the time you get to Ontario, fightin' words are a real thing, and they only get more hilarious and obscure as you go further east. Quebec brawls are hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozDDYcyrCNE
>>47949300
CFB Esquimalt is right across the straight and is home to the west coast fleet (halifax class frigates). At Victoria airport you will find 443 (MH) Squadron, who fly CH124 SeaKing helicopters (my unit).
Up island is 407 LRP Sqn, who fly CP140s (one of my old units) and 442 SAR Sqn, flying Buffalos and Cormorants.
Fun fact: when the Voodoo was flying, the bomb dump in Comox was full of nuclear rockets (Genies), which could be used to blast Russian bomber formations.
>>47963327
Actually I'm from Nova Scotia. I can't help but think those Ontario guys sound kind of similar to the PEI dudes
Maybe it's the liberal use of cursing, by fuck.
>>47949767
Vancouverite here, can confirm, Fuck Toronto.
The only people who don't hate Toronto are people who don't know Toronto or are from Toronto, and people from Toronto shouldn't have their opinions accounted for unless they also hate Toronto.
Sidenote, the police force in the actual city of Vancouver is not actually the RCMP. RCMP are sort of like feds, but for the most part bigger cities have their own police force. VPD is okay I guess considering the vast majority of what they do is probably just related to dealing with homeless people/drugs.
RCMP are actually metal as fuck, speaking as somebody who grew up in New Westminster, they're essentially less-scowley Dredds. Surrey RCMP owns full blown armored personnel carriers and shit they drive around whenever gangers start thinking they're fatcocked. Mounties I've known aren't what I would call standoffish or trigger happy, but pretty fucking methodical, and whenever you hear of one pulling a gun, it's almost always a dead perp in two shots before they hit the ground. I don't know if we have ERT (RCMP SWAT) guys out here, but it's worth remembering that technically the RCMP is a paramilitary force.
>>47963402
>>47949767
Other side of the country here.
Fuck Toronto.
Fuck Quebec even more, though. Wish General Wolfe would've genocided the fuck out of them
>>47947046
Brief summation of Vancouver:
What Portland aspires to be, but tried way too hard to become.
>>47963378
Albertan here, but I wrangle Newfies for a living.
PEI accents are a little more nasal, a little faster, and a little more likely to have "verbal stutter" like "boyo" and "right". They're pretty similar.
Overall, Albertan accents read as fairly neutral to most people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG_S_lbAuiI
There are also a lot of distinct first nations accents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qzRFAE90Ys
>>47947874
>The nickname is No-Fun city
And the national capital is/was known as "the town that fun forgot".
Canadians get pissy when other people make fun of them, but god damn if we don't make fun of ourselves and each other.
If your're doing a game in BC, you gotta remeber that the whole province was Canada's "Wild West". You had Haida and Nuu-Cha-Nulth raiders in the north that used to basically be Vikings with a penchant for slavery. You had a massive gold rush that was barely kept civilized by our equivalent of Texas or US rangers, the RCMP, and a handful of travelling "hanging judges". There are a few military bases and depots along the coastline, and a "Diefenbunker" (Continuation of Government shelter in case of Nuclear War) in the central Island (Vancouver Island). BC also has Canada's only actual desert in the Okanagon, and taiga for wintery themed adventures in the North. The Coast regions are a rainforest that rarely gets the hellsnow that the rest of the country gets, but the snow that we do get comes down hard and fast, often burying travelers.
>>47963602
Ottawa is an entire town of public servants. They're all in bed by 9:30.
It's like DC, but without the poor people, the exuberant crony capitalism, and the military-industrial complex.
It's unimaginably dull.
PEI is already vaguely apocalyptic.
It's pretty much Unknown Armies with no stakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P028KP_pSoc
>>47963676
And the high-tech, construction, and service-industry guys cross the river into Quebec if they're looking to get booze after dark, yeah.
But if you're running the campaign in BC, you've got no chance of running into francophones or quebeckers, since they're all the way across the damned continent. Unless you were just playing up the presence of French people in Canada for comedy, which works too.
>>47963762
You could say the same about Nova Scotia.
>>47963864
Without the "vaguely". Christ on Toast, you folks are right fucked out there. It's pretty as hell, but so's your sister, so that's not much of a deal.
>>47963402
>>47963402
We do have ERT in Vancouver. I got to watch them go to work in Gastown (the old, but nice part of Vancouver Core). Nothing more fun than sitting in a firetrap of a building watching men with armoured dogs and assault rifles storm a parking garage while a truck loaded with oxy-aceteline tanks is parked right out front.
My co workers agreed that at least it would be quick.
And holy shit you are not kidding about clean kills. Bullet riddled perp corpses do not happen here. A couple of bullets and the bad guy is down. Never a case of 38 bullets coming out of two guns that hold 15 each.
Pop pop pop muthafucka drops.
>>47963599
Newfie wrangling. That's a hell of a job. Do you have a bottle of screech on a stick?
>>47963914
Economically we're a shithole, and North Dartmouth is the fucking hood apparently. So, like, kind of, yeah, I suppose. Idk.
>>47963942
Mounties out here in Alberta are the same. If they draw, the other guy is dead in two shots or less before anyone knows what the fuck happened.
They don't draw often though, which can lead to some very long standoffs, or occasionally impressive tragedies.
Also, can we talk about Parks Canada people? Goddamn, they really our our best and brightest. Teeth like rows of chicklets, knowledge of everything, attitude like Bob Ross mixed with John Acorn if you're doing things right, or like Old Testament God mixed with all the Catholic/Black shaming they can muster.
I've seen dyed-in-the-wool rednecks reduced to "yes sir, no sir" muttering and tears by a finger-waving Parks Services guy in a silly green uniform. Admittedly, the Parks Services guy had shoulders so broad you could land a plane on them, but still, impressive stuff. If the Apocalypse happens, you could do worse for companions.
>>47963968
Nah, getting them more drunk would be counterproductive. Part of the job is getting them sober.
These days, you just need cash. Formerly, you could use women (with or without meth problems), pirated movies, threats of violence, discount airline tickets, and, if you really had to, decent seafood.
>>47964042
I just started the prerequisite programs for the Conservation Officer stuff out here. Already I have become stronger, and now cedars sprout from wherever I piss. I think in order to complete the program I have to rip the spine out of somebody throwing a cigarette butt out a car window on highway 1 and use it as a garrote on somebody who sets up a tent outside of a pad on crown land.
PT-whatever:Stupid trivia
If you take the ferry from Horseshoe Bay to Vancouver Island you will go via Nanaimo. Famous for the Nanaimo Bar: A most Godly dessert. If you've never had one, have one. You will not regret it.
If you head north on Highway 99 from Horseshoe Bay you will pass Britannia Mine. Big ass mine. Urban legend says there's a tunnel that leads from it, to Nanaimo. That is a non-trivial feat if it exists.
Gastown is the old part of the Vancouver core that is now a tourist trap. Named for Gassy Jack, an olde time scoundrel who is much beloved by anyone who knows who the fuck he is.
Abbotsford has the most churches per capita in the whole fucking country. All those zealots and they're still no where near as loco as the American religious right.
OH SHIT! Point Roberts! Holy fucking shit Point Roberts.
Most of the Canada/US border is along the 49th parallel. North of it-Canada. South of it USA. Point Roberts is a spit of land coming off of Tsawwassen. Its south of 49 so it's USA, but its not connected by land to the USA. Its history of being not Canada is amusing. Clearly they could have pushed to become part of Canada, but fuck that. Imagine having all the rights of being American, but being so small and cut off from the USA that no one bothers you, and you still have access to all the cool shit of not being stuck out in the middle of the ocean.
If you want more details about anything I've posted, just hit wikipedia Think of what I've posted as a bunch of Shit You May Want To Read Further Upon. A lot of it is way more complicated than /tg/ has space for.
Newfoundland is the only remaining functional civilization left.
>>47964536
>functional
>civilization
Newfoundland?!?
Are we talking about the same place?
All joking aside, I think a game set in Newfoundland, particularly a game set after war where Newfoundland was used as a staging point, has potential.
Anyone ever done a psychedelic apocalypse?
https://vimeo.com/169510122
You know, reality got bent through chemistry. Someone invented bacteria that eat asphalt and piss LSD. All drugs were legalized everywhere, at once, and the entire world went on a bit of a mental holiday. Then we woke up to... this.
It's important to note that a lot of "Canadian" culture is more of an Eastern thing, Vancouver actually shares a lot of similarities with Seattle and other Cascadian hubs.
For weather, snow is hilariously un-Vancouver. Acid rain would be much more thematic.
>>47964385
The US does not give a single fuck about Roberts and would probably easily hand it over. Canada tolerates the existence of Point Roberts- and in fact I'm inclined to believe that it's still a part of the US as part of an elaborate scheme by the provincial government so that we have more reliable access to funky-ass american breakfast cereals that we can't get up here.
Also holy shit why does american chocolate/coke taste like garbage?
>>47952147
What in the everloving fuck
>>47959446
In other words, exactly what they were two hundred years ago?
>>47966705
Except this time, with steel. With guns. With engines.
Run, mainlanders, run.
>>47947046
If you need an industrial city, there's Hamilton, Ontario. It's a port city/steel town. Lots of old factories, steel mills, as well as some interesting natural formations like the niagara escarpment and Cootes Paradise. It sits across the lake from Toronto.
The harbor was super polluted for a long time (Still kinda is) So you could use that as a background for mutants. There's also been a big boom in health care so there's lots of hospitals and research going on too.
There's also Mcmaster university in the city which has a nuclear reactor used for research, as well as a large children's hospital on campus.
>>47950722
What about the JTF2? We don't even know their real numbers, gear or what they do.
>>47963160
Fixed it.
>>47947046
>>47949767
>>47963402
>>47963447
Yea Toronto is awful. I get to see it's ugly skyline across the lake on a clear day. I go there for university as well, it's awful Canada keeps all the rude people there.
Toronto and the GTA (greater toronto area are like a city state. So if you wanted to put them in your game I might make them like the Enclave, descended from the corrupt Ontario/federal government.
>>47967394
>Alberta not being an obnoxious cowboy.
>>47947874
>I live there
I'm going to be down there in a few days as a part of a trans canada trip. Was thinking about bringing some edh decks to see what the game is like abroad. do you guys have any good LGS;s?
>>47949767
Ottawafag here, I can confirm that nobody hates Toronto as much as people from Ottawa does!
>>47963251
Yea newfoundland has very unique accent. My 90 year old grandfather sounds exactly like that. His favorite saying is "Lord thunderin jesus!"
>>47963195
>>47963327
>>47963378
I'm from Ontario and I know a lot of guys who sound and look like this. It's mainly the GTA and other large cities where people lack an accent or don't always talk like that.
If you go north or west of the GTA it gets increasingly rural, and everyone sounds like this. Nice people though.
>>47967750
Heh, I've always loved "Hells Bells and Buckets of Blood", which, given the accent and the tooth-whistling, usually sounded like "Shells Bells and Tuckets of Blud".
So I see a lot of vancouverites 'round these parts
...Anyone got room for 1 more in a campaign?
>>47963447
man, a lot of hate for Toronto. I get it, people can tend to be dicks there, but I like going for a couple days out of the year. walking around the downtown area is pretty alright, and there's always something interesting going down. I couldn't live there, because yeah they're basically polite new york.
Also, being French Canadian in Ontario, I'll say this: Quebec actually isn't that bad, nor are the Quebecois - separatism isn't as popular as one may think. The REAL dicks are the francophones in anglophone areas. I actually haven't spoken to the french side of my family in about a decade and I'm known more by a shitty, obvious pseudonym so that people don't associate me with them. That's how much they can be assholes. Compare this to going to Montreal, Gatineau, or Quebec, where I get told that my accent is a bit off, and I just say I come from an english speaking part of the country, and that's it. From there it's beer and pastries.
>>47967446
Outside of Toronto, it goes for Ontario too. Southern Ontariofag right here, been all around.
>>47968791
>Also, being French Canadian
Frig right off. Take your shitty hybrid law and your fucking retarded language laws and drive them up your arse. Would we have done away with the lot of you centuries ago
>>47968850
(you)
>>47964042
>Also, can we talk about Parks Canada people? Goddamn, they really our our best and brightest. Teeth like rows of chicklets, knowledge of everything, attitude like Bob Ross mixed with John Acorn if you're doing things right, or like Old Testament God mixed with all the Catholic/Black shaming they can muster.
Having just started my sixth season with Parks, thanks anon. Brought a single tear to my eyes.
>>47968791
>Also, being French Canadian
no srsly
>>47968850
>>47968791
See, now I know you're just bullshitting, since you can't go Quebec-side without people saying your French isn't real French if they catch a whiff of an accent.
>>47970089
Splendid. Now go out there and try and force Americans to behave decently.
>>47971886
meh, we're both dealing with anecdotes, but I can say that my lived experiences are definitely not fictional.
>>47964536
I remember reading that book in high school. The island of Newf & Sealand,New Foundland & New Zealand,the only parts of the world not a mutant infested wasteland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5aKcpAhTOk
So rather than sea-dos, I think these tiny fishing boats are probably closer to bikes, for a Chopper character. Thoughts?
Honk honk, motherfuckers.
So Mounties and Vikings; what else we got, guys?
>>47975911
Jesus that's terrifying
>>47979049
Anon early mentioned evolved raccoons.
Not much talk about moose or bears. Not many moose near Vancouver, but bears are everywhere along the northern mountains
>>47947046
Guy from the Okanagan (hot part of BC) here.
Two things you guys should know about
>In the mid 2000s there was a grow-op here that had trained guard bears. The guys had found the bears as cubs and trained them to scare off intruders
>I don't know about now, but in the 90s hill people were a thing in the Rock Creek area. Some of them lived of a long stretch of road where cars would frequently run out of gas. They would then strip these cars of parts and disappear into the woods. There was a man who left society to live in a hole. My father helped him dig it. He had an armchair down there and a tarp to keep rain off his head. He made leather masks and lasted for almost a year. (in winter he killed himself)
Crazy fucking shit happens in BC. Probably the closest you'll get to a genuine twin peaks experience.
>>47979049
Wendigos, dire beavers, scalping, a devil guided flying canoe, ogopogo, fanatic separatists (I kid, I kid. They're just zealous).
We got tons of shit
Sorry to sort of hijack your thread, but could we get more Seattle-based apocalypse inspiration? I'm running a Seattle Savage Worlds game next week.
According to the 2011 Canadian Census, more than 23 million people, almost 70 percent of the population, live in urban areas. Ninety percent of the Canadian population lives within 100 miles of the U.S. border. Lots of wild places that can be gone to and stuff can come from fro off stage as it were. The northern communities might be self sufficient after a population die off. River and lake travel in certain parts of the country would be a given. Maybe a campaign along the St Lawrence Seaway or Salish Sea. Island towns and villages might be centers of civilization. Exploring ruins or the wilds both possible. Maritime or land based. Pic related
>>47982578
OP here, I'm cool with it. Seattle is really close to Vancouver, so it'd be mutually beneficial for us to discuss it. Other than the Space Needle and Frasier, idk anything about Seattle.
>>47982381
All sounds good, but again, my GM wants to keep this really grounded with just a tinge of occasional weirdness, sorta like early Game of Thrones.
>>47948788
>Langley
>Shit urban planning
Ain't that the truth...takes 15 minutes to move 5 blocks here sometimes
>>47963149
>mfw I live in that town
>and it's all true
>>47982923
>Traffic tie ups.
>Build huge overpass
>For 204th street which goes fucking nowhere
>Not 200th that runs from the TransCanada Highway to the centre of the city.
>All streets are numbered and run N-S
>All avenues are numbered and run E-W
>all address are numbered based on the above pattern
>Except this one area here we just built up
>>47963149
>>47982938
Jesus fucking Christ, how can one town be so redneck? Pic unrelated.
>>47983045
>transit doesn't run from stop A to B, but A to Q, then Z, then C, then 8, and THEN B
>destroying all the forests for those shitty looking townhouses
>city counsellors want to decrease speed limits to 30km
>can hear the train at 2am from 4kms away sometimes
end it now
>>47983158
It's not one town, anon - it's all of the towns.
And it's glorious.
>>47983045
>>47983298
Everyone else in the world thinks Vancouver is an sjw/libtard paradise - and it sounds like they are right.
>>47983360
>it's all of the towns
>>47983158
>>47983360
Correct.
Look, the sensible people move. Who do you think is left?
>>47983586
Who do you think is left?
Surely only the most ratchet and inbred among them.
>>47983382
Nah. It's also chinese.
>>47983679
and punjabi. why else do we have hockey night in canada for the hindoos?
>>47983660
That's a hell of a picture. It's an entire campaign setting right there.
But yeah, moving out isn't better, but it at least proves you have some desire for a more interesting life. Unless you move to Ottawa.
>>47983775
>In re the pic of nazi mutant
They've got some pristine genes they're trying to preserve there. Gotta keep that shit pure and in the tribe.
Also, the greatest argument against the validity of the proposition of "white supremacy" is white supremacists themselves. Just look at those fuckers, they're the dregs of society, desperately trying to push this "white=special snowflake" meme so other people might treat them with even the slightest ounce of respect, when the truth is that they're completely unrespectable.
>>47980299
BC politics in post apocalypse should be like California meets the deep south. Crazy colorful characters who are all fucking corrupt but are passing around so many backhanders it all seems to more or less work. Honest leaders should only ever pop up to be left holding the bag for long term corruption.
A couple of fun examples: The second Premier of BC was named "Amor De Cosmos" (real name Bill Smith). Founded the paper in the capital. Prone to crying and fist fights. Set the pattern for BC politics by resigning after becoming mired in a corruption scandal.
Pic related ran BC for 20 years. Basically built the joint. His highways minister had a nasty habit of building highways near land his family owned.
More recently, there was Glen Clark, who took over from the actually fairly honest Mike Harcourt. Mr Clark was, I believe, the first sitting Premier of BC who had the RCMP execute a search warrant against him.
Also: Victoria.
Victoria should be the same. Terrifyingly the same. As if the entire population of the city just looked out at the world, said "NOPE!" and walked back inside their homes determined to ignore everything. They have made terrifying and sinister bargains to maintain themselves.
>>47947046
Bush flights:
Rickety planes/ helicopters are used to get players across large tracts of wilderness. It is not uncommon to see air to air combat involving spears, small calibur weapons, and even grappling hooks. Can be used to transport players to different areas within the setting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_flying#Alaska
The Great Trans Continental Bridge was made in the late 20XX's between Russia and Alaska. 16 lanes wide, and double stacked with trains and pipelines running below, there is even rumored to be an underwater tubeway that is a component of it. Delapidated, but still functional in chunks, it is the last, best way to get to Russia, and by extension china. Home to travelers, vagrants, and communities built onto and into the structure like barnacles on a crabbing boat.
Abandoned/ inhabited military bases that have devolved into cults, tribes, or the militias. Doesnt have to be grimdark, could be lots of fun.
"Americans" horrible rumors of another group of monstrous people, often described as something like the drow, or illithids, no one is really sure what they are, but they are all very sure that they are evil. Meet americans finally, turns out they aren't so bad, but then it turns out they are everything that was rumored of them. Rubber human face masks and all.
>>47983931
>Also: Victoria.
Praise be, Times colonist. Praise be!
>>47983947
"You must understand. They still deliver the paper. The paper-boys. They deliver the paper. Do you understand?"
>>47983445
Ain't there rednecks where you're from?
>>47983970
"So much paper. Mountains of it. Rivers of plastic-wrapped perfect bundles of paper.
Nobody's printing anything, anymore, but it's still going out. Even an illiterate scum-sucking degenerate can cut paper off a roll, and they ordered warehouses full before the collapse.
Blank rolls, delivered fresh daily."
>>47984098
I'm in the Upper West Side of Manhattan in NYC. So no, I'm probably geographically as far away from rednecks as a person could get.
We've got insane Redpilled Elmo, though. He's been filmed and arrested a whole bunch of times spouting /pol/-tier autism in public places while working as an Elmo costume guy, taking pics with kids and stuff. Check this fucker out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuouL4WnM9A
>>47984184
>Even an illiterate scum-sucking degenerate
Excuse me, but I know some perfectly nice people from Port Alberni.
I live in northern BC. Childhood was in the Bulkley Valley.
Ask me something.
pic related bretty much sums up half the people here.
>>47960941
Martimers spot on.
You and your party are traveling to Cape Breton in search of fresh water. It's difficult to see, a dense fog has descended upon the land and you can't remember the last time it wasn't raining at least a little bit.
>eh bud, this is Annapolis territory. Fucking sorry, you better turn around or things are gonna get guhuhuhreasy buddy. Pogie hasn't come in yet and we're fucking feelin' all fucking uptight so, sorry, yer money or your life bud.
>>47984344
How much has it urbanized/modernized? My grandad used to live in Smithers when he was working for the Ministry of the Interior (I think, one of the 'dirt ministries') and he basically raised my dad and siblings on game meat and birds, kept chickens in the yard, bought the occasional pig, that kind of thing.
>>47984431
It's pretty modern. Not like sky-trains and Ubercar cabs modern, but it has stop lights and paved roads and shit.
Looks like any small town. Pic related, it's Main Street of Smithers. But once you leave town, nothing but forest for kloms around.
You'll find cabins and old, decrepit cottages in the woods and around Tyhee Lake and Round Lake. Really, I love it. I love the places you can trek through. The nature here is the one I picture when I do my worldbuilding.
Although, poor Houston been hit hard just recently. Its only grocery store just shut down and the closest one is forty minutes away in the next town.
>>47984520
Cool. My late Uncle lived in Smithers. He still grew/hunted a lot of his own food and lived well off the beaten track. I just wasn't sure if that was typical or just because he was a particularly extreme example of a redneck/pothead.
michigan here, fuck off putting that nuke dump next to lake huron. thanks.
>>47984602
Plenty of people grow their own vegetables here. I know many who have their own small greenhouse. Not large scale operations usually, just some cucumbers and tomatoes or something.
Also, hunting is really popular. Not in Smithers in particular(Smithers is sort of more liberal than the other towns of the Valley), but my mom's boyfriend hunts, my brother-in-law hunts, my grandpa used to hunt and I would hunt if I wasn't so lazy.
Shooting ranges are my thing.
Also, here's a picture of Houston, home of the world's largest flying fishing rod!
>>47984723
Going back on topic, I feel like there should be a lot of the descendants of these rural communities in a post apocalyptic setting. The cities will be a literal shit-show if the power and water ever goes off, but I can see smaller communities making a better fist of it because there's so much more space and a basic familiarity with growing/hunting, and preserving food.
