Clearly GW has fallen from making the best models. Their blobby, overly busy design looks like crap compared to modern sculpts.
So who, in your opinion has replaced them?
>>47890731
Infinity has had better models for years. This isn't something new.
Much as I love the shit out of Infinity, earlier models had a bad case of the anime pose.
I think the Antares models are pretty good.
I sure do love duplicated body sculpts when they ask sixty bucks for four models
>>47890731
>fallen from making the best models
When did they desu? There seems to have always been some smaller mob with better consistency and a higher base standard for as long as I played.
>>47890731
Best models is relative.
As these are infinity, I assume they are single pose models with zero customisation. That alone means, the designers have more freedom, as can be seen with older GW models as well.
I however like to kitbash and convert my stuff, so GW models where it is common/encouraged to share arms, legs weapons between kits of the same or similar factions etc. offer a huge advantage.
>>47890901
OP wasn't around for confrontation and thinks infinity is special.
>>47890925
>I however like to kitbash and convert my stuff, so GW models where it is common/encouraged to share arms, legs weapons between kits of the same or similar factions etc. offer a huge advantage.
This for me as well.
>>47890731
If you're going to rag on GW at least post some sculpts that dont look like they were intentionally designed to be as generic as possible.
IMO the plastic included in stuff like Deathwatch Overkill is looking quite good, nicely detailed and much more appealing than generic sci-fi soldier in exosuit #11111111111
>>47891032
>#11111111111
>four tattoo'd on his forehead
>44 on his armour
that's generic soldier #4444444444 you knucklehead
buy some new fucking eyes
>>47890837
Where do you live, Uzbekistan?
>>47891032
Actually I think DO sums up exactly what OP was criticizing.
Space Marines look like shit, and tacking on more shit doesn't polish that turd.
>>47891127
>four all over his bod and gear
That dude's an ancient chinese edgemaster.
>>47891032
>>they were intentionally designed to be as generic as possible
They were. That's the point of Wu Ming.
>>47890731
>Metal minis
This remains to be the number 1 reason I won't get into infinity.
>>47891032
>those models
>generic
I think most of you people have forgotten what generic sci-fi armour looks like these days. Because it sure as hell doesn't look like that. Space Marines are more generic than that.
>>47891243
God, Yu Jing are such shitheads, I love it.
>>47890901
Super early in the 80s and maybe early 90s, when most other companies were making blobs of vaguely anthropomorphic lead and GW's figures were recogniseable as humans. They still had loads of character back then, too.
>>47891221
gotta love the silhouette on that lump of cruft.
>>47891286
I love metal.
I love the weight, the way it paints up, the ease of stripping, that it doesn't melt in the car on a hot day.
The only benefit to plastic is cost (which GW somehow fucked up) and that it's harder for little kids to break.
>>47891721
GHQ?
>>47891864
da faq r those?
That's not correct mandarin for 4.
What a fucking scrub.
>>47891844
The benefit of plastic is customizability, cuttability, poseablity, and generally spare bits to use on conversions and other projects. Cost is not as much of a factor to me as that is. Also I hate how metal bonds to metal with glue, making pinning a necessary hassle.
Plastic glue is best glue.
>>47891930
4: 四 (肆) sì
>>47891889
6mm tanks.
>>47890731
>Soldier: 44
>>47891864
Oh these look lovely! How do you paint these?
>>47891930
>correct mandarin
>written
here's your fuck (you)
>>47891442
lol
>>47892113
Something like that is usually done with an airbrush for most of it, I think additional detailing with washes mostly?
>>47892306
>none of them look anything like the OP picture
...Okay? Do you have a point?
>>47892687
Do you?
This thread is going to be GW shills trying to defend the little bit of crumbling dignity they have left, failing at it miserably and calling others names.
>>47890815
cant tell if shill or bad taste
Infinity minis look cool but I wish they wern't posed so twisted so you could mod them in different poses.
>>47892687
>blind denial
lel
I mean, it's a valid strategy when cornered, fair enough, what else are you really suppose to do to get out from under it.
>>47893674
The only real similarity between them is that they're all examples of armor.
The way the suit rises prominently around the shoulders, the way it is criss-crossed with exposed servos and stuttered cords, the shapes of the helmets, the way the helmets are segmented into breathing apparatus and faceplate, the way the almost insectoid midsection is set out, etc etc etc... these aren't things you see in any of those images.
If you think they all look the same because they're all slimmer than Terminators or something, that's your problem.
>>47890780
>anime models having anime pose
>this is problematic somehow.
>>47891221
Jesus Christ, what the hell is GW doing? That motherfucker is a walking Renaissance fair.
>>47890731
Corvus Belli is better than even Forgeworld with regards to infantry models.
There are boutique minis that are superior, and newcomers popping up that give GW a run for its money.
The only thing GW has left is it's IP. And with their reputation, cost of entry, and worst rules in tabletop - that IP isnt going to be enough. The market is too crowded now.
>>47893839
that is kinda norm for those guys.
It's not like it's a tau model with inscribings and scrolls and badges.
>>47893751
You are lost in the nitpicky details for some reason. but the overall gist is very "generic scifi armor"
>>47893856
>The only thing GW has left is it's IP
Which they are actively ruining.
>>47893897
>>47893909
>>47893751
Are you a human being? Because you act like a scanner that reject any discrepancies as false identities.
How are you getting past captcha?
>>47893924
>>47890925
This is less and less true with each new release. Newer minis are often made with a specific pose in mind.
Well, they're still pretty good for kitbashing because plastic and extra bits, but I don't think we can say GW minis have customisable pose anymore. They're not made with that feature in mind, anyway.
>>47893938
>>47893924
>>47893909
>>47893897
Cool armours
I love this one:
>>47893924
>>47893897
The details are what make something distinct.
And no, it doesn't look like Spartan armor either, which is far more boxy and less modular, with far less exposed machinery and such. The only similarity is that their shoulders rise prominently.
Another Infinity shill thread?
>>47893897
>>47893909
>>47893924
>>47893938
>a bunch of random amour designs with almost nothing in common
>>47893004
It's the circle of /tg/.
>>47893938
Where are all the hexagons?
You can't have Mass Effect without hexagons.
>>47893004
>>47893584
>>47894005
>shills
Its not enough to disagree about which models look better, we have to accuse the very motivations the people who disagree with us as being somehow not genuine.
>>47894009
>>47893979
Blind, or disingenuous?
I don't know what to say, it's transparently obvious, you have to be trolling me at this point.
>>47893856
I'd tend to disagree. There are still lots of people who buy shit from GW. I don't know the numbers for AoS, but I don't think it failed as hard as /tg/ and others wished it to, if it even failed at all.
Which makes me fucking angry because I seriously think GW doesn't deserve that visibility anymore when there are all those small companies with better games and minis out there.
>>47894101
Can you point out the ways they're extremely similar?
Those images generally don't have much in common with the stuff in the OP. Saying they all look "futuristic" isn't really enough. The ones from Destiny and Doom, in particular, share virtually no similarities with them.
>>47893897
>>47893909
>>47893924
>>47893938
What separates any of these from Carapace Armor, apart from looking a lot better? Are you implying that GW is somehow less derivative because they have a tier of comically big armor above the standard functional sci-fi armor?
>>47894134
I would say rather than "don't have much in common", the two designs are almost identical.
>underlying bodysuit thing
>plate chuncks which form musculature
To go so far as "virtually no similarities" is lying.
I feel silly even having to point these out to you.
>>47890731
Looking at the thumbnail I briefly thought these might be Gue'vesa models.
>>47894134
just look at the picture and stop being an idiot. or an autist, or a robot, I dunno.
just fucking stop it.
>>47894257
Nobody plays 40k anymore.
>>47894146
Space Marine armor is so exaggerated that the human form is actually lost, while "generic scifi armor" actually artificially enhances the impression of musculature via the armor plating.
>>47894107
It's brand recognition. Even people who steer away from tabletop have some idea what Space Marines and 40k are. It might grow my neckbeard, but it genuinely makes me shudder when some random youtuber/person/thing says stuff like "Blood for the Blood God, lol", thinkingit is in some ironic way not tacky.
>>47894238
>definetly not moving goalposts here, guys!
I salute your efforts to cherrypick such an armor, though. Still I'd like to know, what a truly original piece of armor would look.
>>47894311
Yes, but GW also has Carapace Armor in addition to Power Armor, which is exactly the same shit that's being posted in this thread except with ugly blocky sculpts.
>>47894238
Probably the only one with any notable similarities. And only in one area - the upper body.
As for the others? 'Metal plates on top of something else' is not really enough to point out similarities.
>>47894263
I bet you see a circle in this pic.
![img3fd751531ae3a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5oXTu7G.jpg "img3fd751531ae3a[1].jpg")
>>47890927
>conf'
Don't remind me ;_;
Black Moon Chronicles also had pretty neat designs, even if the quality of the sculpt itself was barely superior to GW's products.
>>47894238
That really is the only one with anything markedly in common with the picture on the right.
And even then, they're hardly close to identical. They share inward sloping carapaces on their fronts. The 'bodysuit' beneath is totally different (I'm not even sure the Infinity one can be classed as a bodysuit, it looks more like something else. Definitely doesn't cling in the way the Spartan's does), the helmets are totally different, the ways the legs and arms are set out is different...
In general, the Infinity one looks far rougher and more industrial, whereas the Spartan suit gives the impression of very compact, advanced technology.
>>47894238
>>underlying bodysuit thing
>>plate chuncks which form musculature
You literally just described all armor worn by a human being.
Well, maybe not Gdub blob armor.
So....point taken?
>it's a "Defend GW and attack competently designed and affordably priced games" episode
>>47894451
You don't understand.
If armor has plating above something else it's generic shit.
>So unique and visually inspiring
>>47894451
>it's a "Attack GW and call anyone who disagrees a shill" episode
>>47894476
Man, IG are cool. I like Infinity but IG are cool.
Astra Militarum can suck a huge festering cock though. GW's endeavor to make everything sound as a shitty as possible is probably one of their least inspired ideas yet.
>>47894495
Why would you defend GW though? They've put out some great stuff, but the company itself sucks dicks.
>>47894238
Does this look the same to you?
>>47894238
You are just describing armor lol.
>>47894529
People have a huge amount of time, effort and money invested. Admitting GW is terrible is a massive psychological blow to them, while pretending it is good lets them continue to believe their investment was worth it.
It's called sunk cost fallacy.
Yu Jing stuff definitely has its own style.
If you want to draw comparisons between Infinity armour and standard sci-fi stuff, you'd be better served by drawing from PanO or ALEPH. Though those owe far more to the likes of GitS and Appleseed than generic western sci-fi shooter #24252566.
>>47891221
Space Marines have a fantastic base design. Its just GW loves covering things in too much detail.
>>47894497
I like them for nostalgia, but looking at the models they are pretty crap.
I'm pretty sure I could do better with some putty and wire, and I am no professional.
>>47894637
Dudes in blobby armor is a design?
They look like the Michelin Man.
>>47894044
What? Mass effect is all about long lines and smooth curves, you tool.
>>47894666
Neither of them look terribly dynamic Satan.
>>47890731
GW's models have always been inferior to their competitiors. Huge guys with massive shoulders hacking each other to death in order to market to hormonal teenagers have always been bad. Meanwhile companies like Rackham and now CB, Wyrd, ect. have consistently better looking figures.
>>47894692
>underlying bodysuit thing
>plate chuncks which form musculature
Those three are all identical.
>>47894238
Wow, it's almost like both were designed with half a thought towards human biomechanics.
![uQOmb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RkvxJOc.jpg "uQOmb[1].jpg")
>>47894044
You are thinking of that other game.
>>47894766
>those dubs
>>47894692
>Those groin to shoulder curves that don't match up to any of the lines on the actual armor
>>47894766
Seconded, but also irregular triangles for DE:HR
>>47894701
One tells the story of a Crusader Brethren landing from a HALO drop, calmly firing his weapon.
The other looks like a dude who just shit his pants and is about to faceplant.
>>47891221
I- I kinda like that model
I will never understand people who think 'generic' is somehow an insult. Execution is orders of magnitude more important than not looking like anything else.
People don't keep things simple either, the armour in Halo looked a lot better before it was drowned in details.
>>47894803
One is doing power squats, the other is twirling around.
>>47894807
Because it makes you feel thin?
>>47894666
Blobby? Are you blind?
There is a huge difference between a bulky, simple design and 'blobby'.
>>47894789
It's not following actual lines er se, but the angle the shapes move through. On Wrex, the line starts on his inner thigh, follows the angle of this armour plates as they curve around his torso, and the end point sits almost exactly perpendicular to the lower shoulder plate.
>>47894856
Which is that one supposed to be?
>>47894666
Infinity is cool, but don't you dare diss Space Marines. They look like crap when they're bogged down by a gorillion bits, but the basic design is solid as hell.
>>47894875
What is the point if you are just going to pretend to be an idiot?
Its a simple, well executed design that is instantly recognisable.
>>47894833
Some of you are ok, stay upwind and clear of the blast site at this guy's house tomorrow.
I love the weirdness of elvish armor in Warmahordes.
I mean, really, what the fuck?
I really like the Under Fire Miniatures figs.
These are 20mm
>>47894811
>I will never understand people who think 'generic' is somehow an insult.
It's not, but OP started the thread attacking what is a questionably good, yet undeniably unique design, then referred to charmless master chief clones as some kind of example to aspire to.
>>47895034
>master chief clones
Stay mad.
As everyone has pointed out, there's pretty much no similarity between MC's armor and the stuff in the OP picture.
>>47895103
Except for the obvious parallel style choices.
>>47895034
>>undeniably unique design
>>47895132
...Such as?
So far all you've come up with is "there something underneath some of the armor" which is true of almost every armor ever designed.
>>47894803
It's just what happens when you fall to chaos
>>47894529
>but the company itself sucks dicks
not really? they put out a product I like and their customer service is pretty top notch.
Their pencil pushers suck dick, but those same pencil pushers are responsible for the shit I hate in every miniature wargaming company. Be it duplicate bodies in Infinity, restic in Warmachine, the general retardation from Rackham, the complete lack of focus from Spartan, almost everything over the past twenty years from the guys handling Battletech...
>>47895261
Is he 8' tall with pauldrons twice the size of his head?
>>47895317
Take all of the infinity infantry, add in all the generic sci-fi armor from every video game made in the last 20 years, remove all color saturation, and shuffle them up. Good luck telling them apart.
>>47895837
>Take all of the infinity infantry, add in all the generic sci-fi armor from every video game made in the last 20 years, remove all color saturation, and shuffle them up. Good luck telling them apart.
Wouldn't even be hard, if you have functional eyes.
>>47895891
Not a problem.
>>47895837
>Take all of the infinity infantry, add in all the generic sci-fi armor from every video game made in the last 20 years, remove all color saturation, and shuffle them up. Good luck telling them apart.
It would be incredibly easy.
Most of the Infinity factions have a coherent visual style of their own. There's absolutely no way you could confuse, say, a Terracotta Soldier or a Father Knight with a Spartan or a Mass Effect dude.
>>47890925
>>47890985
sometimes
most of the time the kitbashing and posing i see done is uninspired and makes the army/model look worse. just because some few can manage it, and afford it, doesn't mean GW makes it easy. bits have a prohibitive cost, so unless you've got three armies, and have a sunk cost of well over 1k, you really are better off just investing in single pose minis that are just out of the box better.
especially in wargames, WYSIWG can be fun, and really tie an army together but fuck it's also so god damn cancerous in real-world application for a collecting/modeling/ascetic tabletop game.
>tl;dr
It's a question of scale.
Cohesive weapon styles for armies, basic trends in dress, and a complete refusal to adopt heroic scale is what makes Infinity so much better objectively on a model to model comparison. Not all the models they have are dynamic, and some fall flat and fail to accomplish the dynamic pose, but overall they are just so much better.
So there's the crux of the matter. Objectively Infinity has better models, better poses, better faces and more interesting sculpts. No fucking question. If you're out for a full scale war game though, 40k's heroic and very stylish presentation is much better.
Infinity MODELS are meant to be looked at.
40k ARMIES are meant to be looked at.
The fair comparison here is showing a normie a full 40k board, an army deployed and ready to be played with, and then show him an operator lineup of Infinity on the side. Ask him which one is better, and he might say the Infinity models look better, but when push comes to shove, who knows what he'd actually want to play. Seeing an army deployed and ready really makes the choice of heroic scale seem intelligent, and the oversized elements of each army suddenly come off as useful and intuitive in the mess and melee of wargaming.
Fuck the company behind 40k though. Infinity is what I play now, but god damn to I wish Infinity had the keys to GW and just fucking took over. Make whatever changes they need to, but I want online rules, a working wiki, and people who actually love what they're doing. Fuck GW, fuck GW, fuck GW.
>>47896852
True that size of the army is something people look at and want to play it. But it's one of the traps of 40k / WFB / AoS. ALL THOSE MINIATURES = all those money wasted. As a second after costs comes a important thing - you will take half of those miniatures back to the case before you play them. And the most important for me - a 30+ squad of miniatures in 40k has less gameplay option / choices than a single miniature in Infinity for example.
>>47895837
>>Take all of the infinity infantry, add in all the generic sci-fi armor from every video game made in the last 20 years, remove all color saturation, and shuffle them up. Good luck telling them apart.
>>47895837
I find less people going with 40k actually because it just really looks dated compared to well proportioned and stylish minis.
I also think you underestimate the appeal of a group of operators.
I know a lot of players, even 40k players that would rather have 10 highly detailed guys over another blob of samey space marines.
>>47896852
You make some good points.
However, I think Infinity also looks great in groups, and if you need to take tons of models to hide obvious flaws then you might as well play 5mm instread of 25mm.
Also, fuck GW.
>>47897228
>5mm instead of 25mm
This. Smaller scales in general are ideal for huge armies. Games like Flames of War and Dropzone Commander do mass combat in a practical way.
>>47893897
>Posting images from Halo 4
Here's what Mjolnir Armour looked like before Halo went to shit.
>>47890731
>skirmish shit
No thanks. Maybe could get one or two nice models for display, but playing that shit? Nein.
>>47896968
>prohibitive cost
GW's problem, not the models.
>>47897228
>obvious flaws
>design choices
More flops in the GW range than in the Infinity selection, but objectively you have to make some concessions if you want things to be easily observable from a few feet away, when there are 100+ models on a table.
That said I prefer matchbox ww2 wargames these days for epic scale, so we're probably in agreement there, but that scale is not for everyone. 40k is in that sweet spot where you still get models on an individual level, but you also get to field a whole flipping army. It had potential. Fuck GW.
I also didn't say Infinity doesn't look good in groups. Your lineup in your pic is exactly what I meant by an operator lineup. They look like they're about to kick some ass, but they're not an army. Infinity might be better art/game than 40k, but 40k's game is completely different from Infinity, so you have to acknowledge you couldn't have 100+ infinity models on a table and have a game go as smoothly or eye things up as easily as with 40k's models/system. Better/different get to obscuring each other.
I'm firmly out of the GW cheerbox though. On a game level, Infinity has so much more going for it. The wiki, the cross-army rules, weapons, ect. The system for playing is so, so much better. 40k could match it, but only with a loving and dedicated owner, and GW fucked that right up. My secret worry is in 20 years GW will be gone, and we'll see Infinity going the 2nd to 6th jump GW made, where now we have a completely different game.
So far though, I've loved the changes with hackers and the ITS system. Off topic tho.
>>47897434
Stay mad, Infinity has a better ruleset than 40K ever will
>>47890731
Kingdom Death.
As an Infinity player I will always place it second to Kingdom Death in sheer sculpt beauty.
I got into infinity becasue of Adriana
>>47897228
>Infinity also looks great in groups
The largest problem with infinity's miniatures is that it keeps changing the scale it uses.
Rather frustrating, as a collector from the get-go.
>>47893947
there has been demand for better quality on details. GW habe done that. but you just can't do both.
>>47898063
Isant this the faction that is literally just /k/?
>>47894949
I actually really like the design the elves too. Its weirdly orbish, but still cool. Not a fan of the weird Bluish white color scheme though. I also wish that they had better sculpt quality. Its not a good sign when theres a good half inch of flash in every blister
>>47891237
Hey, GW has already taken the "skulls all over" look, gotta get creative.In lore Wu Ming are denied their names and are only referred to as their number; that thing on his forehead is a tracking chip as well as a mark of shame.
>>47898178
From who? One of the most common criticisms is that the models are unnecessarily detailed or too busy.
>>47898211
Yep, including the furries.
>>47898301
From the business managers that won't admit that there are good reasons people buy Chinaman toys, so rather than address those they just try and up detail to a point Chinaman can't match.
>>47898329
Adriana is a funny faction its basically Americans,Russians,Scottish,English and French all together using old ass technology in a setting full of anime robots and soldiers. Which in reality its just firefighters,STALKERs and sword wielding werewolves
In the wargame they cant be hacked
>>47897716
Really? Cause I have both and Kingdom Death Plastic is easily second place to Infinity Metals.
Metal is always better, sharper details.
>>47897250
I seriously couldnt agree less, even if I do play DZC. There is nothing more boring to me than painting little specs of infantry and trucks. Thats why I play a Walker heavy Shaltari.
But what I think a lot of people are missing in this thread is simple: Cost per actual miniature. Not per point, but per body. In infinity, your paying around 7 to 15 dollars for a single infantry unit. Meanwhile with GW, even if we take one of their most stupidly priced units, A terminator squad for example, that still comes out to about 10 bucks per model. A tac. Marine is four, Guardsman is 3. Although they are UNDENIABLY not as well made, they're still cheaper by a far margin. Now, this only aplies to infantry, but even stuff like Dreadnoughts are cheaper, for 47 dollars to around 60 for a Gecko. Regardless of how much it costs in the game, buying a infinity army still draws in a disporpotionate amount of miniatures for the price, and as a hobby, the amount you pay for can really affect what you play. When Fusiliers come in packs of ten with full weapon options, THAN I will declare them the absolutely better miniature company.
>>47898401
>Sniper Rifle
>is clearly an assault rifle, or a DMR at best
0/10 triggered.
Fuck you all niggers saying overcrowded models are bad, i am voting scibor
WOW SUCH GREAT MODELS IM NOT A FURRY
I've killed peoples interest in the game showing them these.
>>47898424
This is complete bullshit though.
Clampacks are triple the price of any infinity mini. While CB prices are 10 buck for literally any miniature. The cost isn't inflated because he's a commander.
Also you get TWO (2) Geckos for 60 instead of ONE (1) Dreadnought, and they weigh more in material too.
You would never ever need 10 fusiliers in infinity too (max FIVE (5)). So the only conclusion anyone can draw from that rant is that you're retarded.
>>47898424
I will take 4 really awesome looking Fusils instead of 10 shit looking guardsmen.
>>47898464
This fucking cat
Its no surprise Infinity is all Weeaboo neckbeards in my area
>>47898464
To be fair if you and your friends are triggered by that, the hobby is better off without you.
>>47898489
the neckbeard fantasy girl squad
>>47897509
I've been thinking about a new rule system, called like "NeoColonial Wars" that is squad based using Infinity Models and Fluff. Basically you would roll ARO and Attacks per squad of 5-10.
I have enough Infinity models to have games of 100 models a side quite comfortably.
>>47898507
>LIterally triggered.
lel
Are GW players usually Mormons?
>>47898507
character who looks like a Genestealer.
What a fucking horrid facial sculpt
but to be fair most companies cant into women faces either
>>47898483
duplicated tactical boxes always looks fucking dumb
especially since you won't have that many models on the table
>>47898063
Damn savages.
The Druze should have finished the job.
>>47898525
Not only is the design horrible cringy neckbeard tier, its fucking horribly done. Shout out to the green goblin holding a melted blob that looks like its supposed to be a gun
>>47898527
Right, and every model here is just oozing with uniqueness.
>>47898568
I don't know if these are anime fetish minatures or if they're supposed to be for a wargame
>>47898581
What's funny is GW gives people $60+ boxes of bits and frills and the dudes still end up looking identical.
>>47898525
HAHAHA.
You cherry picked one of their oldest sculpts and it STILL looks better than GW.
>>47898581
that doesn't make duplicated sculpts any less fucking dumb, m8
>>47898489
>>47898507
>Didnt post the literally half animal people nomads have
Dont the nomads also have a sqaud called riot girls?
>>47894428
What the fuck is that?
>>47898593
Lol. I think you don't like Nomad models.
>>47898593
"I don't know how to sculpt so what if we just covered the model in Spaghetti"
>>47898423
I think the aesthetic and style of KD is more distinct and appealing (or unappealing, as much of their stuff is pretty gross in design) trumps Infinity, which in turn looks a bit too derivative sometimes. Also lately some factions are looking very same-y, PanO and YJ in particular.
>>47898615
...I am honestly confused.
In Infinity you have small forces, so there are no duplicated sculpts.
In 40k you have 100s of identical looking, crappy models.
>>47898615
It's too bad many of those guardsmen look the same too eh?
>4 different legs all in the same two styles
>Leaning
>Walking
>2 different sets of arms
>Aiming
>Off to the side.
>Pistol and sword combo
>1 Unarmoured head
lel
Oh by the way, you'll need dozens of them!
>>47898632
That's a better sculpt than literally anything GW has produced of that size.
>>47898525
Whoever painted Carlotta here really did her a disservice.
She looks much better IRL, without the derp face.
>>47898632
>u wot mate
>>47898632
I call this masterpiece "Kaylee from Firefly with down-syndrome."
>>47898665
>YEAH BUT GW
it's fucking dumb regardless of what company does it, bro
did I trigger you, or what
>>47891243
that is some shitty writing, make no mistake
>>47898648
You're wrong. And KD still suffers from common plastic printing mistakes like undercutting. Check your butchers cloak to see the fucked up melted lanterns.
I mean, they're super nice but plastic has problems that are unsolved with the current level of technology.
Same reason why GW minis have 'running' and 'melted' details (See veteran shoulder pads, the ones with studs for the best example). Plastic printing just isn't that good.
>>47898489
>>47898507
>>47898525
>>47898568
>>47898593
Aside from Moiras those are pretty much all older Nomad sculpts.
And Nomads' schtick is looking weird and funny, because they're the outcast faction.
And yet they still have the best looking TAGs around, even if they're more like super-heavy HI rather than a real TAG.
Nomads a shit
Adriana have best models
>>47898706
>The only triggered child is the one spamming images my friend.
-Confucius
>>47898723
>>47898723
>>47898693
Its like they're ripped from some horrible anime with a dose of fetal alcohol syndrome to the humans
>>47898693
>Model is one of the oldest in the range
>Still looks great
>>47898475
Calm down, no need to get rude here. I never once said that infinity is bad, or that the models are bad either. Infact, I like infinity from a design point of view. I will admit that I didn't know that Geckos come in packs of two, so I will take that point back. I also never brought clampacks up either, but they are definetly overcosted. However, saying that weight in materials makes any difference is silly. And like I said, you might never NEED to use 10, but getting 10 would be nice, right?
>>47898483
I'll spend more hours painting, customizing and building the guardsmen than I will simply painting the Fusiliers. Don't get me wrong, they are fantastic models, but dont you think they could sell them for a cheaper price?
>>47898745
>>47898723
>>47898715
Outta my way humans.
>>47898693
Valerya is pretty old and shitty looking.
Thankfully there's a very similar looking Scottish alternative for her.
>>47898464
>>47898489
>>47898507
>>47898525
>>47898568
>>47898593
>oh no the weird faction looks weird
>oh no these old ass models look old
These outdated facial sculpts look way, way more human than most of 40K's modern range.
Here, have some female faces that don't look like hippo jawed ass.
>>47898772
You're retarded.
Calm down.
>>47898762
Mommy never let you see Ghost in the Shell huh?
>>47898783
>>47898729
he definitely is, but the people rushing in to defend a wargame's honor aren't far behind
>>47898772
Will you?
Personally, assembling and painting 40k models went by quick because you needed to power through a bunch of boring, similar looking models.
With Infinity you can take your time and enjoy it, because you have a small number of models with awesome variety.
>>47898817
Implying GW does better faces than Infinity is the definition of building your house out of straw.
>>47898814
You are posting on a nepalese yak milk market and you are looking down your nose?
>>47898783
but I didn't even bring up 40k friendo ;)
Infinity is regressing faster than 40k (which is sitting solid) in my city.
Frostgrave and SAGA are both hot and popping right now.
Shitty sculpts and a dying fanbase because it turns out normal players don't wanna hang out with fat neckbeard anime lovers. Without fail anytime someone is playing Infinity they'll have some creepy as shit anime play mat or anime accessories for no reason
>>47898795
cartoons are for children
"WHAT IF LE NAZIS N LE JAPAN"
>>47898814
True dat.
How about we just post some good minis? Not game ones, but I am personally really fond of Dark Sword and I like to get a few to paint as a break from unified colour schemes.
>>47898860
>Frostgrave
>the game where dedicated minis are so ugly everyone tells you to play with other ones
Apparently this is a "feature".
>>47898860
Adriana and Haqqiislam arent reallt that anime
>>47898785
Your the one calling me retarded dude are acting so defensively. I like infinity, all Im doing is pointing out a flaw. Heck, even Reaper mini's are cheaper, and they come with rather good sculpts that rivals Infinities
>The thread just becomes spammed with awesome looking infinity models making the derpy 40kid stuff look awful.
Embarrassing.
>>47898860
>This anecdotal insanity.
Hilarious.
>>47898869
>This attempt to save face and derail.
Embarrassing.
And there we have it, good thread lads. 40kucks are back in their hole and all is right with the world.
>>47898887
yea for some reason frostgrave can survive with its shitty models but infinity cant
;)
>>47898860
>>47898860
>if I repeat something enough it will become true
>;)
I see that reddit is missing a regular.
>>47898852
More like building your house out of feces.
>>47898658
Those are pretty cool for near future hard Sci fi. I like em
>>47898895
You are retarded though.
Don't be offended by the truth my friend.
Terminators are now halal.
>>47898935
this looks hideious
>>47898821
>with awesome variety
they're monopose metals
There's a variety of unit types available, but every aquila with HMG is going to look the same. The only variety is in the line troops, and even then, they've started doubling up on body sculpts in most boxes.
>>47898869
I can dig. Disappointed I didn't grab more helldorado when I had the chance. Very interesting models to paint.
>>47898920
Those guys are actually the faction using all the old equipment
>>47898935
In Haqqislam Infinity, kebab removes you.
>>47898963
>they've started doubling up on body sculpts in most boxes.
>they've started
Ah we have newfags now too. Dear god.
That mini is pretty meh though. Confrontation did it better.
>>47898902
Dunno, Infinity is growing pretty well while Frostgrave is just an incidental product f a company that mainly publishes history books with seemingly desperate looking fans.
Alsthough it may be the only generic fantasy skirmish game around now. Too bad even old Warlord minis beat North Star ones by a mile. But I guess Frostgrave has plastics, which is a plus.
Also in GW's defense: their LoTR/Hobbit line looks pretty dope. May have to do with them not being the ones in charge of design and keeping more realistic proportions, but those are still pretty nice minis.
>>47898971
>Kebab removes you
KNOCK KNOCK CYKA
>ye Prophet, this suit itches round the crotch
>I can't scratch either
>ackbar mecca I wish I was at home beating my sister
>my feet hurt
>those eighty virgins better have moves like Sasha fucking Grey
>>47898925
>You are retarded though.
>Don't be offended by the truth my friend.
Looks like some one is in denial
>>47899001
This one actually looks better
I would like everyone bragging about Infinity in this thread to realise it is only so bad and argumentative because the OP was so confrontational.
>>47899012
Tank Hunters are awesome though, they look better than a lot of things.
>>47898983
confrontation didn't give me conquistadors fighting demons
>newfags
considering I've been playing infinity for about ten years, the duplicating "trend" is definitely recent
>>47899013
Nobody cares, post awesome models infidel.
>>47899030
Old naffs were better
>>47890731
>space marines have generic sci fi armor
>sci-fi trends towards skimpier outfits that provide extreme protection because lol technology bro
>40k is stuck in the years of hair metal where bigger was better and dudes wearing heels were called rock stars
Tbh, I don't see how 40k is generic
What are some examples of how its aesthetically generic, and where are the examples in popular media of how it follows some trend that makes it "generic" instead of pop-out?
Because 40k pops out a lot more than halo spinoff #3701
>>47899008
Bruh, read the sentence you typed again. I can't even understand the fuck you're trying to say because your sausage fingers can't hit the right buttons while you autistically hammer out a poor attempt at what you would call english.
Apply yourself.
>>47899043
Bruh, read the paragraph you just wrote with your fat fucking sausage fingers and try to type proper Gothic.
Seriously acolyte, apply yourself.
Speaking of non-40K sci-fi games, does anyone know what the rules for Gates of Antares are like?
Some of their range is hit-or-miss for me, but I really like the battlesuits and concept of the Ghar. The setting has a sort of Dune-ish vibe that reminds me of early 40K, too.
>>47899043
If you cant read plain english, than your the only retard here. Seriously, why the fuck are you being such a shit head about this?
You see, this guy: >>47898821
Notice how he actually makes a fair point and can perfectly understand what I wrote, and replies to me without acting like a total dick.
I always thought the DE's models looked pretty nice. But if you're talking about sphess mahreens then yeah.
>>47898708
The fact that it's translated from Spanish by some intern is probably at fault for that
I love Infinity's fluff personally but my god guys, hire an english writer
>>47899030
DEUS VULT INFIDEL
>>47898457
>Implying your average Ariadnan knows the difference between a Sniper Rifle and a DMR
It's a planet full of the shitty side of /k/ what were you expecting
>>47899013
I don't see how it was confrontational.
If people did not live in denial about 40k this thread would have gone swimmingly.
>>47898993
Kebab removal squad, assemble!
If only ALEPH could have a Leonidas recreation. Then we could have representatives from every specialist kebab removers in history.
>>47899263
There is a good side of /k/?
>>47899279
>live in denial
How is liking something you don't living in denial?
Doesn't that make you living in denial for liking something I've never heard about before this thread?
>>47899263
the other factions are pretty guilty of it too
it's not until you hit multi/viral/whatever sniper rifles that they actually start looking like sniper rifles
>>47899263
>It's a planet full of the shitty side of /k/
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
Did someone say Kebab?
>>47899263
>/k/
>good side
>>47899304
Liking it is fine.
Pretending its models are artistic is not.
It's like liking Transformers. That's your prerogative, but don't pretend they are Citizen Kane.
>>47899298
>>47899332
It's like a mosin nagant
Both sides are "good", but it's always better to have the butt in your shoulder
>>47899279
I know they're strawmeme images made to trigger some kind of butthurt reaction, but at least compare roughly similar models. Like a fusilier to a stormtrooper. Or achilles to sigvald.
You're just making other infinity players embarrassed about liking the same game as you.
>>47899348
>Implying infinity's minis are artistic.
>>47899356
Leon shoots from the hip.
>>47899317
Well, Scotland is there too.
Werewolf Scotland.
Hey, so I just bought the Ice Storm starter kit; Would it be possible to run the Nomads in the PanO army, or vice versa?
>>47899474
>Degenerate Nomads
>Even having the colors of PanO
>>47899474
no
there used to be rules for mercenary forces, but they got scrapped because mexicans couldn't balance it
>>47899279
>can't handle the fact that infinity only ever has even a single thread and no real playerbase in most stores
>wouldn't even have this second thread if he hadn't baited GWfags
>>47899348
I mean, some of them look really cool. I would love to sprinkle them in with my guardsmen and use them for narrative campaigns, but, I didn't get into 40k because of aesthetics.
I got into it because I could be guaranteed a book with very little wishy washy poorly written hookup and sex scenes (something most fantasy suffers from).
As for the models? I'm not all that disappointed, bit the last tabletop game I played was the old Star Wars Miniatures game.
Tl dr
Most of the people who stick with 40k do it for reasons that aren't aesthetics
>>47894613
>people
Maybe. Maybe many people. Maybe only a few. There's no way to know. That's why posts like yours fall under the I-can-read-minds-over-the-internet Fallacy Umbrella.It's not fooling anyone.
>>47890731
>modern sculpts
>6 weedy gits
>$50 MSRP
>best
Nah. "Clearly" Citadel has never made scale models. They make 1in gaming counters using Heroic Proportions so players can tell a squad spec and a squad leader apart from 6ft away. Vehicles are shortened and widened for the same reason: abstraction is necessary for ease of play. I'm with you on the new tendency towards Maximum Overbling, but 40k was never a sim, so Citadel miniatures are still the best models I know of to do what they're supposed to do.
>>47899555
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>>47891864
Are those new sculpts? If so, they've really upped their game.
>>47894720
Not at all true. Circa 2000 and before, GW had by far the highest-quality product. You may not like the aesthetic, but most of the hobby did.
GW didn't change with the times, they had immense problems with their business model, and most importantly they lost sight of how to make a quality product. So I agree that Infinity and others are better, but that doesn't retcon their past.
If the company's creative team stopped being a subsidiary of their legal department, if the sculptors stopped playing airsoft for a few hours and sat down worked on their jobs, and if they could get guys like Rick Priestley back, then they'd have fixed one of their major problems.
I saw this happen to TSR in the 90s. THis shoudlnt' be a surprise. Companies get complacent. They rest on their laurels. The suits take power. THen there's a bad few years, a bankruptcy, or a buy-out and suddenly things get better. When a company goes bankrupt, nobody dies. All that creativity is re-allocated to better companies that can make better use of them. So GW's fall is a natural and to some extent desirable phenomenon.
>>47899555
>Citadel Miniatures are the best gamepieces
>When that company constantly releases massive display pieces rather than anything practical for a tabletop
